View Full Version : Game Thread: Xavier v. Marquette (January 15, 2020) Big East Conference Game
Muskie
01-15-2020, 01:47 PM
Xavier University Musketeers (12-5,1-3) vs. Marquette (11-5,1-3)
Wednesday, January 15, 2020 at 8:00 p.m.
Fiserv Forum, Milwaukee, Wisconsin
drudy23
01-15-2020, 04:11 PM
Must must win game.
If we lose, let's at least see some changes. That will make me less annoyed.
Masterofreality
01-15-2020, 04:56 PM
I will probably throw my phone through my TV if I don't see some kind of adjustment tonight...in something
Lineup, sub pattern, shot distribution, defense changes, SOMETHING
If we keep doing the same iish expecting a different result, because "execution" I'll be minus a mobile device tomorrow.
noteggs
01-15-2020, 05:46 PM
I will probably throw my phone through my TV if I don't see some kind of adjustment tonight...in something
Lineup, sub pattern, shot distribution, defense changes, SOMETHING
If we keep doing the same iish expecting a different result, because "execution" I'll be minus a mobile device tomorrow.
Sounds like you may need a new smart TV as well! Like you, we need some changes somewhere!
Jesuit4Life
01-15-2020, 05:52 PM
TV clearances (https://goxavier.com/documents/2020/1/13//Big_East_Basketball_Xavier_at_Marquette.pdf)
FOX SPORTS ARIZONA
FOX SPORTS DETROIT (PLUS)
FOX SPORTS MIDWEST (IN & NE PLUS)
FOX SPORTS NORTH (PLUS)
FOX SPORTS OHIO
FOX SPORTS SOUTHEAST (AL, GA, MS & TN)
FOX SPORTS SOUTHWEST (AR, LA & TX PLUS)
FOX SPORTS SUN (Non Heat)
FOX SPORTS WEST
FOX SPORTS WISCONSIN
MASN 2
YURVIEW NEW ENGLAND
X Factor
01-15-2020, 06:40 PM
I know Steele has talked about the need for Q to drive the ball more, but I hope he doesn't go crazy in that regard and force it 15 times trying to get into the lane tonight. He needs to take what the defense gives him when does drive and drop it off, kick out, or finish the shot / get fouled.
drudy23
01-15-2020, 07:25 PM
He needs to be a damn point guard. Take care of the ball, make good decisions, make players better, play with a high IQ, find guys in spots where they will be successful and be a leader.
Jesuit4Life
01-15-2020, 07:28 PM
Let's Go X
Sounds like you may need a new smart TV as well! Like you, we need some changes somewhere!
IDK, maybe he’s aware that he has terrible aim??? The TV would seem to be at risk either way.....
Q (and Naji to some degree) seem to act like they are not willing to be coached by the former “nice guy recruiter”. Maybe I’m way off, but I don’t remember ever feeling this way before a game. It’s hard to watch.
Xville
01-15-2020, 08:02 PM
Same effing lineup....steele is a joke
scoscox
01-15-2020, 08:06 PM
it makes everything so much harder when your point guard has maybe the lowest bball iq on the team
noteggs
01-15-2020, 08:09 PM
Hmm. Jones on Howard
mistabeecee41
01-15-2020, 08:10 PM
theyve had 6 guys score in the first 4 minutes. we'll be lucky if 6 dudes from our team make a shot the whole game.
fellahmuskie
01-15-2020, 08:10 PM
I keep watching the bench reaction lol.
Some nice moves to the basket, but what the hell happened to our defense?
Lloyd Braun
01-15-2020, 08:11 PM
Hmm. Jones on Howard
They switch everything and probably should with everyone except Howard. Double and rotate everyone else is probably best option for PnR defense against Howard and a big. He’s just good regardless....
bjf123
01-15-2020, 08:13 PM
2 on Scruggs. That’s not good.
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scoscox
01-15-2020, 08:15 PM
q is so bad lol
Xville
01-15-2020, 08:16 PM
Goodin is such a joke. Keep shooting you fucking moron
2 on Scruggs. That’s not good.
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It feels like that’s just the standard start.....
fellahmuskie
01-15-2020, 08:19 PM
I hate Marquette.
Xville
01-15-2020, 08:20 PM
The bench just got excited, steele is happy
SM#24
01-15-2020, 08:23 PM
That’s bad Naji
D-West & PO-Z
01-15-2020, 08:25 PM
Death, taxes, and scruggs with 2 first half fouls.....
Not sure I agree with Steele's always benching him for the rest of the 2nd half either. He is taking him out for such a significant period of time and he may only end up with 1 more foul the rest of the game.
fellahmuskie
01-15-2020, 08:27 PM
Wtf is wrong with Q? Thank God Tyrique had the putback. Then gives it away the next time down.
Is Goodin point shaving? How do you get this bad? He has missed wide open layups the last two games.
Xville
01-15-2020, 08:29 PM
Is Goodin point shaving? How do you get this bad? He has missed wide open layups the last two games.
Hes sucked ass for two years now...yet there he is in the starting lineup every damn game
kellernr
01-15-2020, 08:30 PM
Wtf is wrong with Q? Thank God Tyrique had the putback. Then gives it away the next time down.It's sad when your 4yr starting senior PG is the weakest link on the team. Over the summer all we heard from the pro camps he attended was he was knocking down shots consistently. He is struggling to do anything right out there this year. He needs to slow down and just worry about distributing the ball. Steel needs to set a shot limit for him.
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kellernr
01-15-2020, 08:31 PM
Hes sucked ass for two years now...yet there he is in the starting lineup every damn gameSteel seems like the type of coach that will play seniors max minutes just becuase they are seniors.
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Xville
01-15-2020, 08:34 PM
I love naji because he can do great things but his bb IQ is mostly awful
scoscox
01-15-2020, 08:35 PM
Wtf is wrong with Q? Thank God Tyrique had the putback. Then gives it away the next time down.
he's just not a good basketball player
Xville
01-15-2020, 08:37 PM
One ball screen...wide open 3...good gawd
I like that Kyky was the one right over Jones after he went down hard. Some of the other guys looked less interested.
bjf123
01-15-2020, 08:39 PM
Why are we so bad at defending the screen and at executing the screen on offense?
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Xville
01-15-2020, 08:40 PM
Free and tandy need to be getting 30 minutes a game. Period.
kellernr
01-15-2020, 08:41 PM
Looked like a flagrant 2 to me. Hit him in the face on the way up and then threw him down.
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drudy23
01-15-2020, 08:43 PM
Sigh...
D-West & PO-Z
01-15-2020, 08:45 PM
PUT.
SCRUGGS.
IN.
Steele's strategy about sitting him with 2 fouls fir entire first half is a bad one.
Xville
01-15-2020, 08:45 PM
We suck again...keep having q and carter out there Steele...they are so good.
drudy23
01-15-2020, 08:45 PM
JC should take another 3.
kellernr
01-15-2020, 08:45 PM
Free and tandy need to be getting 30 minutes a game. Period.Tandy could score 20pts in 15min and still wont start over Q who scored about 4ppg in big east play. Steele is a great recruiter but not head coach material.
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whopper
01-15-2020, 08:46 PM
the worst 2 minutes of the year..even worse than the Villanova 17 pt run..wow
kellernr
01-15-2020, 08:46 PM
PUT.
SCRUGGS.
IN.
Steele's strategy about sitting him with 2 fouls fir entire first half is a bad one.Mick Cronin with hair except he cant coach D
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noteggs
01-15-2020, 08:46 PM
Anim killed us last year! Come on
drudy23
01-15-2020, 08:47 PM
Wow...pressure led to a turnover.
X Factor
01-15-2020, 08:47 PM
Why is Scruggs not in the game. Screw those two fouls. Why not just go with KyKy and live with his freshman mistakes instead of Goodin and his zero offense senior mistakes?
AviatorX
01-15-2020, 08:48 PM
Auto benching of Scruggs was terrible, especially with KyKy giving nothing.
We need kyky out there? Either in for Moore or Goodin or run 1 big and move Naji to the 4.
drudy23
01-15-2020, 08:49 PM
Why is Scruggs not in the game.
We have to save him for the point in the season where we are clearly out of the tournament.
X Factor
01-15-2020, 08:49 PM
Auto benching of Scruggs was terrible, especially with KyKy giving nothing.
Kyky doesn't get chance to give anything. Goodin gets 30+ minutes and NOTHING!
XUBob
01-15-2020, 08:49 PM
Man, I really liked the Steele hire but I knew there was going to come a day when the administration would make a mistake, it was bound to happen. I’m wondering if this is it. This certainly isn’t Xavier basketball. I know we’d lose a good recruiting class but Christopher has some tough decisions to make. I know people will say a longer sample is needed but this certainly isn’t the program I’m used to seeing.
D-West & PO-Z
01-15-2020, 08:49 PM
Why is Scruggs not in the game. Screw those two fouls. Why not just go with KyKy and live with his freshman mistakes instead of Goodin and his zero offense senior mistakes?
It is a horrible stubborn strategy by Steele. Letting 2 fouls completely remove Scruggs (our 2nd best player with no suitable replacement) from the game is just foolish. There has to be an analytics guy who can prove this. He might not foul one more time the entire game and he will have missed half od it with 2 fouls. It just isnt smart coaching, especially as we are going down double digits.
drudy23
01-15-2020, 08:50 PM
KyKy is the type of player that needs to be let loose.
Putting him out there to simply initiate the offense is pointless.
Xville
01-15-2020, 08:50 PM
JC should take another 3.
Yeah he can really stroke it almost as well as.q
kellernr
01-15-2020, 08:50 PM
Teams know kyky can shoot so they are staying out on him. Need to run some plays to get him open. I'm tired of seeing Q and Moore chuck 3s every game.
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Starting think defense is being prioritized over offense. Never understood that. Both sides matter.
Was our best play to let Q go one on one to finish the half???????
drudy23
01-15-2020, 08:51 PM
Starting think defense is being prioritized over offense. Never understood that. Both sides matter.
Offense > defense. Always.
Xville
01-15-2020, 08:52 PM
Hahaha goodin is a joke. Steele may get better but he is so far out of his league right now. Maybe his wife has his balls, because he sure doesnt have any when it comes to deciding who should play and who shouldnt
noteggs
01-15-2020, 08:52 PM
What was Naji thinking
Lloyd Braun
01-15-2020, 08:53 PM
Microcosm of the season there to end the half
The awareness and basketball IQ is laughable. Really, I lol every time it’s hard to be angry.
Xavier
01-15-2020, 08:53 PM
Starting think defense is being prioritized over offense. Never understood that. Both sides matter.
I think it definitely is because Travis knows they can’t win with this type of talent on offense. We suck
stammina0721
01-15-2020, 08:53 PM
I'm just amazed people still get upset knowing what is going to.happrn before the game starts
bjf123
01-15-2020, 08:54 PM
That was disappointing. Not surprising, but disappointing.
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Xville
01-15-2020, 08:54 PM
Unless things drastically change, this team isnt winning.more than 4 or 5 in the league.
Xville
01-15-2020, 08:55 PM
Starting Lineups and minutes need to change starting this end half
kellernr
01-15-2020, 08:55 PM
Offense > defense. Always.I agree. Only thing is there isnt any offensive threats on this team besides naji.
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Lloyd Braun
01-15-2020, 08:56 PM
Unless things drastically change, this team isnt winning.more than 4 or 5 in the league.
When they posted the standings on the broadcast it really hit me hard that they really suck right now and there is no light at the end of the tunnel. Then watching Q airball a 8 foot tip back with 7 seconds on the clock after 20 seconds of ISO was really the cherry on top.
xavierj
01-15-2020, 08:56 PM
Man, I really liked the Steele hire but I knew there was going to come a day when the administration would make a mistake, it was bound to happen. I’m wondering if this is it. This certainly isn’t Xavier basketball. I know we’d lose a good recruiting class but Christopher has some tough decisions to make. I know people will say a longer sample is needed but this certainly isn’t the program I’m used to seeing.
I agree on this not being Xavier basketball we are use to. Lack of boxing out, getting out toughed, no offense at all, just run around and chuck it, no leadership, fumble the ball left and right, can’t find shooters, don’t hustle back and on and on. Marquette isn’t even good and Xavier has no chance. Steele will get a chance with his own recruits but it is very concerning that a team with just about everyone returning, is continuing to get worse. Something is majorly wrong right now with this team.
Go Go Golston
01-15-2020, 08:57 PM
Man, I really liked the Steele hire but I knew there was going to come a day when the administration would make a mistake, it was bound to happen. I’m wondering if this is it. This certainly isn’t Xavier basketball. I know we’d lose a good recruiting class but Christopher has some tough decisions to make. I know people will say a longer sample is needed but this certainly isn’t the program I’m used to seeing.
You all need to remember or be reminded who the coach's father-in-law is. If you don't know, check it out.
Xavgrad08
01-15-2020, 08:58 PM
The body language of this team does not look good. At some point we will win a game. We have to,right?
XUBob
01-15-2020, 08:59 PM
I know, but, I hope that isn’t a driving factor.
AviatorX
01-15-2020, 08:59 PM
Man, I really liked the Steele hire but I knew there was going to come a day when the administration would make a mistake, it was bound to happen. I’m wondering if this is it. This certainly isn’t Xavier basketball. I know we’d lose a good recruiting class but Christopher has some tough decisions to make. I know people will say a longer sample is needed but this certainly isn’t the program I’m used to seeing.
I'm going to repeat this every time someone decides to make even a faint suggestion Steele may and/or should be fired after this season: can anyone provide a list of high major coaches fired for performance after two seasons? Only guy off the top is Billy Clyde.
Who in their right mind would take the Xavier job if that happened? Hey, you get to inherit a flawed roster with a recuriting class that's likely gone and the last guy got fired after two seasons. Come on down!
Blue Blooded-05
01-15-2020, 08:59 PM
Ok, we’re losing this game. Play Jones, Free, Naji, Scruggs & Tandy the entire 2nd half. Live through the mistakes and Howard torching us and let them gel as a unit.
I agree on this not being Xavier basketball we are use to. Lack of boxing out, getting out toughed, no offense at all, just run around and chuck it, no leadership, fumble the ball left and right, can’t find shooters, don’t hustle back and on and on. Marquette isn’t even good and Xavier has no chance. Steele will get a chance with his own recruits but it is very concerning that a team with just about everyone returning, is continuing to get worse. Something is majorly wrong right now with this team.
I blame Mack for this season, he recruited this mess. He is the one who brought in zero shooters. He missed on the sophomore class and the senior class. You can’t win with one decent class out of three.
bjf123
01-15-2020, 09:00 PM
The body language of this team does not look good. At some point we will win a game. We have to,right?
Sure! I’m back to hoping we can keep the non losing conference record going. Sadly, I don’t see it happening.
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X Factor
01-15-2020, 09:00 PM
You all need to remember or be reminded who the coach's father-in-law is. If you don't know, check it out.
Does Goodin have compromising photos of Steele or something? Why does he keep getting tons of minutes when he brings NOTHING to the court?
At least KyKy can score and make shots. Yeah, he might make some mistakes or get beat on defense a couple times, but he's a freshman. Goodin is a SENIOR!!!!
If I was Steele, I would throw KyKy in there and tell him he has the green light whenever he wants. Don't take stupid shots, but get up 10-12 shots a game. I guarantee you he would be averaging double figures and helping this offense!!
Xville
01-15-2020, 09:01 PM
You all need to remember or be reminded who the coach's father-in-law is. If you don't know, check it out.
Right now he probably thinks his son in law is a dipshit
bjf123
01-15-2020, 09:01 PM
I blame Mack for this season, he recruited this mess. He is the one who brought in zero shooters. He missed on the sophomore class and the senior class. You can’t win with one decent class out of three.
When Mack was head coach, didn’t Steele do a LOT of the recruiting? They’re his players, too.
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scoscox
01-15-2020, 09:04 PM
we don't play like a well coached team at all. there are surely other factors at play, but the buck stops at steele. there's not reason it should be this bad
DART87
01-15-2020, 09:04 PM
Time for Steele to break another clipboard. Watching this deja Vu is not working!
drudy23
01-15-2020, 09:04 PM
You all need to remember or be reminded who the coach's father-in-law is. If you don't know, check it out.
LOL - what the hell does this mean?
xu koop scoop
01-15-2020, 09:04 PM
Starting think defense is being prioritized over offense. Never understood that. Both sides matter.
Been thinking that for many games. Remember, Leighton Schrand started 1st two games. That move may have set a tone & pissed off any of the guys who thought they were better than Schrand. Schrand may be worth a few mintues again the way we are playing. Where is James? Thought Ramsey was ready.
kellernr
01-15-2020, 09:04 PM
Sure! I’m back to hoping we can keep the non losing conference record going. Sadly, I don’t see it happening.
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI'm hoping it will eventually click for Q and Jones that this is their last ride as Musketeers. Q hasnt been right since Mack left and Jones is a beast for short spurts then disappears the rest of the game. Was really looking forward to seeing those 2 year it up this year but they've been extremely inconsistent. And dont defend jones saying hes a rebounding machine. With how bad this team shoots he should be averaging 15-20 boards per game. I feel like he was harder to stop before he dropped all the weight.
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drudy23
01-15-2020, 09:05 PM
He's not getting fired.
But this isn't Xavier basketball.
[QUOTE=bjf123;663064]When Mack was head coach, didn’t Steele do a LOT of the recruiting? They’re his players, too.
Travis recruited who Mack told him to recruit. Mack is struggling to recruit at Louisville.
drudy23
01-15-2020, 09:06 PM
Remember, Leighton Schrand started 1st two games.
Was there ever a real explanation as to why this happened?
Another WTF moment in Steele's short tenure.
Go Go Golston
01-15-2020, 09:07 PM
Right now he probably thinks his son in law is a dipshit
He's actually a very good man who is very committed to the university.
kellernr
01-15-2020, 09:07 PM
Calling it now. Scruggs fouls out with 6 minutes to go in the game
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Jumpin_Jamal_Forever
01-15-2020, 09:08 PM
I'm going to repeat this every time someone decides to make even a faint suggestion Steele may and/or should be fired after this season: can anyone provide a list of high major coaches fired for performance after two seasons? Only guy off the top is Billy Clyde.
Who in their right mind would take the Xavier job if that happened? Hey, you get to inherit a flawed roster with a recuriting class that's likely gone and the last guy got fired after two seasons. Come on down!
Of course you are correct. Steele isn't going to be fired and, were that to occur, X would be a laughingstock. But, don't underestimate the beneficial effect of venting on this board. If you were in a bar with a bunch of your friends watching this game, someone would have made a similar comment. This board allows people the same ability to express their frustrations when they are confined to their living room watching by themselves.
Still, as one who supported the Steele hiring when it happened, he clearly has a lot to learn. And that learning will take time which means more frustrations ahead for most of us.
Xville
01-15-2020, 09:08 PM
Why in the flying hell are we passing to q for a three....this team is seriously fucking stupid
Xville
01-15-2020, 09:09 PM
I do like the token pressure...at least they are trying something.
drudy23
01-15-2020, 09:10 PM
Why is he shooting!!!!!
Lloyd Braun
01-15-2020, 09:10 PM
I do like the token pressure...at least they are trying something.
I’m sure they’ll be gassed soon. Have to try something in short bursts.
drudy23
01-15-2020, 09:11 PM
It's the 18th game of the year - why would they get tired so fast?
drudy23
01-15-2020, 09:12 PM
Naji plays like a 4th grader.
kellernr
01-15-2020, 09:12 PM
Another miss by Q . Everytime he shoots it's a wasted possession
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D-West & PO-Z
01-15-2020, 09:12 PM
Why in the flying hell are we passing to q for a three....this team is seriously fucking stupid
Unfathomable. Literally becoming a joke.
Xville
01-15-2020, 09:12 PM
And there goes all momentum they had. Glad to see q put up 2 threes in the first 3 minutes of the 2nd half.
Ballgame! Great job Steele die on that sword of q and carter. You're a fucking idiot
kellernr
01-15-2020, 09:13 PM
Now Naji is trying to do it all himself and playing out of control.
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drudy23
01-15-2020, 09:14 PM
Maybe he's shooting because he wants to get benched.
He's sending Trav a clue and Trav can't figure that out.
FYI...can we stop calling him Trav? Trav is for when you're an assistant. You're the big guy now.
Strange Brew
01-15-2020, 09:14 PM
Time to move on from Q and start KyKy. At least he’ll pull a defender away from the basket.
paulxu
01-15-2020, 09:14 PM
2/13 on 3's and out rebounded by 10 is not a recipe for success.
bjf123
01-15-2020, 09:14 PM
Now Naji is trying to do it all himself and playing out of control.
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We’ve seen this movie before.
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Lloyd Braun
01-15-2020, 09:14 PM
Shooters gonna shoot
DART87
01-15-2020, 09:14 PM
speechless. What game are these guys playing?
Naji plays like a 4th grader.
But he’s big for his age, so he has THAT going for him.....
AviatorX
01-15-2020, 09:14 PM
Q should for sure sit the rest of this game. There's no excuse.
Blue Blooded-05
01-15-2020, 09:14 PM
2-13 from three... keep chucking em up boys
Shooters gonna shoot
I sure wish we had some!
MADXSTER
01-15-2020, 09:15 PM
Is 2 of 27 good? I'm thinking not but since coach is not concerned, it must be okay. Keep shooting
DART87
01-15-2020, 09:15 PM
2-13 from three... keep chucking em up boys
Thing is they are WIDE OPEN and still can't hit a shot. Losing is a disease!
X-band '01
01-15-2020, 09:16 PM
So when does spring training start?
bjf123
01-15-2020, 09:16 PM
Dagger
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drudy23
01-15-2020, 09:16 PM
We're fucking done ladies and gents.
Unreal.
Xville
01-15-2020, 09:16 PM
Lol such a clown show
bjf123
01-15-2020, 09:17 PM
We get down 20 and I’m done.
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DART87
01-15-2020, 09:17 PM
Naji can't even stand up.
drudy23
01-15-2020, 09:17 PM
When the announcer can see it, it's real.
kellernr
01-15-2020, 09:18 PM
With how bad they have been this year I dont see any way Scruggs and Marshall leave early unless it's to play over seas on g league.
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Xville
01-15-2020, 09:18 PM
I hope that either a miracle happens and come back and win or they get throttled by 40. No more moral well they fought bs. Either win or get effing embarrassed so Steele is forced to make some changes.
paulxu
01-15-2020, 09:19 PM
The "core four" stuff might have been a little overblown.
drudy23
01-15-2020, 09:19 PM
Maybe he will take their jerseys. That's the next step.
bjf123
01-15-2020, 09:20 PM
I’m outta here.
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paulxu
01-15-2020, 09:20 PM
We get down 20 and I’m done.
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OK then....
Is 2 of 27 good? I'm thinking not but since coach is not concerned, it must be okay. Keep shooting
I honestly could go 2-27. Q is mentally screwed. He needs to go to the end of the bench.
drudy23
01-15-2020, 09:20 PM
These guys have quit.
DART87
01-15-2020, 09:21 PM
The "core four" stuff might have been a little overblown.
You think? Same as last year...worse actually
D-West & PO-Z
01-15-2020, 09:21 PM
With how bad they have been this year I dont see any way Scruggs and Marshall leave early unless it's to play over seas on g league.
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Which it seems a lot of players are really ok doing. Not sure either of them benefit from another year. I think Scruggs might actually. Hoping they both come back bc if not next year will be worse than this.
AviatorX
01-15-2020, 09:21 PM
Freemantle looking really soft as well. KyKy is getting the minutes everyone is so desperately calling for, so let's see if he can do something.
Xville
01-15-2020, 09:21 PM
Yep they have quit so no need to keep watching. I'm out....maybe a miracle will happen.
SkyWalker
01-15-2020, 09:21 PM
Same krap, Different game!
whopper
01-15-2020, 09:23 PM
I am a fan and not a player. I have certainly reset my expectations but now is not a time to throw everyone under the bus. This game was a likely loss but this has defied my expectation and the little run to 5(?) at start of half just fooled me a little. I will watch now to see how they respond with no chance to win
xudash
01-15-2020, 09:23 PM
I hope that either a miracle happens and come back and win or they get throttled by 40. No more moral well they fought bs. Either win or get effing embarrassed so Steele is forced to make some changes.
You’re getting your negative wish.
X Factor
01-15-2020, 09:24 PM
Oh look, Q's back in...
Strange Brew
01-15-2020, 09:24 PM
And Goodin in the game...
No accountability. Come on Travy
XU 23
01-15-2020, 09:24 PM
Yeah, we’ve given up.
Well, I suppose the good news is............. this will free up some space on my DVR?
That’s the best I got.
bleedXblue
01-15-2020, 09:25 PM
Goodin cant make a layup
drudy23
01-15-2020, 09:25 PM
This is different folks.
We've had teams in transition before, but this is different.
Xavgrad08
01-15-2020, 09:26 PM
Xavier not showing a lot of heart or pride. I don’t know what the solutions are, it looks like Xavier has gotten worse. That is a problem.
X Factor
01-15-2020, 09:26 PM
This is different folks.
We've had teams in transition before, but this is different.
Yeah because of the most of time those have been young teams. This is a veteran team.
SkyWalker
01-15-2020, 09:28 PM
This is different folks.
We've had teams in transition before, but this is different.
Agree. Shouldn't have a team in transition with 4 upperclassmen.
scoscox
01-15-2020, 09:28 PM
I honestly could go 2-27. Q is mentally screwed. He needs to go to the end of the bench.
q would get clowned on by dudes at la fitness. he's just not a basketball player
Yeah because of the most of time those have been young teams. This is a veteran team.
This veteran team is currently making me look forward too having a young team.......
Blue Blooded-05
01-15-2020, 09:31 PM
Steele needs to make a statement and sacrifice a veteran like Miller did when he suspended Dedrick Finn.
Anyone have a suggestion on who should be sacrificed???
X Factor
01-15-2020, 09:31 PM
Great D by Q
Lloyd Braun
01-15-2020, 09:32 PM
Don makes a 3.
Chants for more playing time for Don in 3...2...1
AviatorX
01-15-2020, 09:36 PM
I'm firmly in the camp that this roster just isn't that good and isn't going anywhere as currently constructed. That said, the rebounding is just absolutely inexcusable and on Steele 10000%. This team is not tough in the right way.
shucker
01-15-2020, 09:37 PM
Marcus Howard 32 points. Xavier as a team has 46 points.
Lack of Offense is killing this team!
GoMuskies
01-15-2020, 09:37 PM
Steele needs to make a statement and sacrifice a veteran like Miller did when he suspended Dedrick Finn.
Anyone have a suggestion on who should be sacrificed???
Uh, we all know
HEY! Ghostbusters is on! Yeah, I’m looking around!
Remember when Bill Murray was like....our mascot? Or something? Doesn’t that seem like a thousand years ago???
DART87
01-15-2020, 09:38 PM
I'm firmly in the camp that this roster just isn't that good and isn't going anywhere as currently constructed. That said, the rebounding is just absolutely inexcusable and on Steele 10000%. This team is not tough in the right way.
And that elite defense has given up 71 points already
shucker
01-15-2020, 09:39 PM
The struggle is real!
kellernr
01-15-2020, 09:40 PM
Marcus Howard 32 points. Xavier as a team has 46 points.
Lack of Offense is killing this team!Lack of offensive game plan. Clearly a bad 3pt shooting team but Steele continues to give them the green light. Need to work the ball inside more the rest of the season.
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DART87
01-15-2020, 09:42 PM
Lack of offensive game plan. Clearly a bad 3pt shooting team but Steele continues to give them the green light. Need to work the ball inside more the rest of the season.
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Mostly the wrong players shooting and not working the shot clock.
DART87
01-15-2020, 09:43 PM
Mostly the wrong players shooting and not working the shot clock.
It seems obvious. Just look at a box score.
bleedXblue
01-15-2020, 09:44 PM
Lack of offensive game plan. Clearly a bad 3pt shooting team but Steele continues to give them the green light. Need to work the ball inside more the rest of the season.
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We've got one interior player who can score. Thats it?
paulxu
01-15-2020, 09:44 PM
0-8 is not a good line for a senior.
DART87
01-15-2020, 09:45 PM
We've got one interior player who can score. Thats it?
How did X beat St. John's?
DART87
01-15-2020, 09:45 PM
0-8 is not a good line for a senior.
not a good line for anyone
GoMuskies
01-15-2020, 09:46 PM
0-8 is not a good line for a senior.
0-5 ain't great for a freshman.
N67ER
01-15-2020, 09:46 PM
Naji drives down the middle while James stands wide open in the corner. Of course Naji misses. Ugly
Lloyd Braun
01-15-2020, 09:46 PM
Howard in up 20 under 4 mins... I don’t ever wish someone gets hurt but it’s just dumb.
Lack of offensive game plan. Clearly a bad 3pt shooting team but Steele continues to give them the green light. Need to work the ball inside more the rest of the season.
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While it sounds great and easy, all those guys who are NOT bothering to guard us out on the arc? Guess where they are spending their time.
If you can’t present a threat, they just pack it in. Unless we somehow start threatening from outside, the inside is going to be a very congested place.
GoMuskies
01-15-2020, 09:46 PM
How did X beat St. John's?
St. John's sucks.
GoMuskies
01-15-2020, 09:47 PM
0-5 ain't great for a freshman.
Make that 0-7.
drudy23
01-15-2020, 09:48 PM
What the hell were we looking at in recruiting these dudes. Their shots aren't even close.
drudy23
01-15-2020, 09:48 PM
Season down the crapper in 2 weeks.
D-West & PO-Z
01-15-2020, 09:49 PM
Man, forget missing Tre and JP, I miss Ryan Welage!!!
DART87
01-15-2020, 09:49 PM
Season down the crapper in 2 weeks.
Yep, I'm sick right now.
kellernr
01-15-2020, 09:51 PM
Add freemantle to list of players that should shoot more 3s than Q per game. Moore and Q should each get 1 3pt attempt per half. If they hit that 1st attempt the get another. If they miss they need to wait until the next half or game to try another. It is outrageous that Steele allows those 2 to consistently chuck up shots that arent anywhere close to going in .
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DART87
01-15-2020, 09:51 PM
Press is gonna help down 20 with a minute left
Strange Brew
01-15-2020, 09:53 PM
Let it burn
Usher
Xville
01-15-2020, 09:56 PM
At this point, I'm just hoping for a season above 500. Right now that is very much in doubt.
Masterofreality
01-15-2020, 10:00 PM
I
I will probably throw my phone through my TV if I don't see some kind of adjustment tonight...in something
Lineup, sub pattern, shot distribution, defense changes, SOMETHING
If we keep doing the same iish expecting a different result, because "execution" I'll be minus a mobile device tomorrow.
I decided that losing a phone wasn’t worth it over this garbage. We are awful, non-competitive and getting worse.
Regression while there should be progression.Bye, Bye.
kellernr
01-15-2020, 10:00 PM
14 games left to get 9 wins. 20 wins still gives them a glimmer of hope on selection sunday. Can anyone find 9 wins left on the schedule?
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X Factor
01-15-2020, 10:01 PM
14 games left to get 9 wins. 20 wins still gives them a glimmer of hope on selection sunday. Can anyone find 9 wins left on the schedule?
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No
Olsingledigit
01-15-2020, 10:01 PM
You know you are embarrassed when they bring a walkon freshman on and he scores a three for the first points of his career. We are a total mess.
Xville
01-15-2020, 10:02 PM
14 games left to get 9 wins. 20 wins still gives them a glimmer of hope on selection sunday. Can anyone find 9 wins left on the schedule?
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20 wins gets them in easily..therr is just no way in hell they are getting there.
whopper
01-15-2020, 10:03 PM
Obviously time to regroup, we can't be that bad. Damn and it seems like we are in a vicious circle of poor performance generating poor confidence and going round and round. I will say a prayer for the team and all involved.
kellernr
01-15-2020, 10:04 PM
20 wins gets them in easily..therr is just no way in hell they are getting there.I looked at the schedule and thought damn. Gonna be lucky to get 4 more wins unless they fix there shooting woes. Watch them sweep a top 10 butler and beat nova at home while also getting swept by depaul.
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Olsingledigit
01-15-2020, 10:05 PM
We are not even competitive at this point. I hope they can turn it around.
drudy23
01-15-2020, 10:05 PM
At least we beat UC.
kellernr
01-15-2020, 10:09 PM
Obviously time to regroup, we can't be that bad. Damn and it seems like we are in a vicious circle of poor performance generating poor confidence and going round and round. I will say a prayer for the team and all involved.Starting pg 2pts total and is 0 from the floor the last 2 games and Moore hasnt scored since the TCU game. Tandy shot like shit tonight but most of his shots came with game already out reach. I say start Tandy next game and play him 25+ minutes just to switch it up. Q needs maybe 12-15 minutes and a benching after each bad 3pt attempt. Moore needs to only play when the first 2 are in foul trouble.
Can Bishop come back? I would gladly give him Moores minutes
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kellernr
01-15-2020, 10:10 PM
At least we beat UC.But if they find a way to make the tourney and X misses will that win even matter?
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drudy23
01-15-2020, 10:12 PM
But if they find a way to make the tourney and X misses will that win even matter?
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It matters some, but I'd rather make the tournament.
Nigel Tufnel
01-15-2020, 10:13 PM
I haven’t commented on this team’s play this year. I don’t know what is going on in the locker room. I don’t know what is going on in the personal lives of the players or coaches. I’m not going to judge Steele until he has a roster of his own players. But I will say this...the under the basket play in the second half, when the game was already out of reach...when the inbounder went to the corner and shot an open 3. Goodin didn’t even try to contest the shot. That’s very disheartening. I love X basketball. I watched every minute of that debacle. I no longer allow myself to get too high or too low. It’s a game. I have a wonderful wife and 3 great kids that are far more important than a college basketball game. But that sequence really bummed me out. There is something wrong.
This was the George Washington game from years past. Hopefully the next Lionel Chalmers walks out of that locker room.
GoMuskies
01-15-2020, 10:38 PM
At this point, I'm just hoping for a season above 500. Right now that is very much in doubt.
I'll say what I said right before we got hot last year in hopes that it leads to a similar rally: I really don't see how this team can win again.
X-band '01
01-15-2020, 11:34 PM
This was the George Washington game from years past. Hopefully the next Lionel Chalmers walks out of that locker room.
I'll even take a Malcolm Bernard-type speech at this point. None of the current four leaders has it in them to pull such a speech.
XfansinKy
01-16-2020, 05:24 AM
Unfathomable. Literally becoming a joke.
Now now. Y'all ripped me last year because I said, "I doubt he could start at EKU". Now he's a joke huh? C'mon now stick to your guns. Up
UCGRAD4X
01-16-2020, 10:51 AM
Obviously time to regroup, we can't be that bad. Damn and it seems like we are in a vicious circle of poor performance generating poor confidence and going round and round. I will sayk a prayer for the team and all involved.
I believe it's called "Circling the Drain" - and talking the porcelain one.
AviatorX
01-16-2020, 11:00 AM
Now now. Y'all ripped me last year because I said, "I doubt he could start at EKU". Now he's a joke huh? C'mon now stick to your guns. Up
This is the rivalry XavierHoops needs to pull us through this mess.
Not sure which was the worst to witness last night:
The team abandoning the little success they found early in the game driving, drawing fouls and slowing the game to their tempo.
The reasons they abandoned it: Poor shooters once again simply couldn’t help themselves when left with wide open looks from 3.
Q again jacking up more 3s than almost anyone on the team even though he is likely the worst 3 pt shooter on the team (and that probably includes Jones)
Q still not knowing how to make an simple layup
Q playing lazy defense for stretches of the game
Naji costing the team points and possessions because he chose instead to whine about missed fouls instead of continuing to play hard.
Naji- continuing to make really, really stupid decisions after really good ones.
Scruggs still committing those stupid early fouls that forces him to sit.
Moore and Kyky rushing their 3s.
Steele not making it a priority to get Scruggs - the best 3 pt shooter - more open looks from 3. It actually looked like Scruggs was asked instead to try to get the ball to the worst 3pt shooters so they could miss more.
Steele still not admitting one of the team’s biggest issues is the abundance of 3s his players are forcing
and missing.
Continued poor rebounding - partly due to some bigs being out of position. Partly because players don’t crash the boards when shots go up and partly because the players who were in good position to get a rebound don’t jump or fight for it. And partly because Jones and Freemantle aren’t seeing the floor together much at all like Steele keeps promising.
Jones coming across somewhat unfazed about the situation during his post game interview... and not taking it upon himself as a senior leader who is disgusted with the team’s poor performance and fired up about getting things right.
There were so many things wrong last night They looked like a mediocre mid major team whose coach was fired before tip off.
D-West & PO-Z
01-16-2020, 02:52 PM
Now now. Y'all ripped me last year because I said, "I doubt he could start at EKU". Now he's a joke huh? C'mon now stick to your guns. Up
His continued shooting of threes. The two he took when we were making a push early in 2nd half. That was a joke.
I dont think he should get no playing time I just think he shouldnt be shooting multiple threes when he does play. Since he cant seem to not take bad shots then he probably should not be playing a ton.
And EKU is a MASSIVE step down from Xavier and the BE.
D-West & PO-Z
01-16-2020, 02:53 PM
This is the rivalry XavierHoops needs to pull us through this mess.
:lol:
AviatorX
01-16-2020, 02:58 PM
His continued shooting of threes. The two he took when we were making a push early in 2nd half. That was a joke.
I dont think he should get no playing time I just think he shouldnt be shooting multiple threes when he does play. Since he cant seem to not take bad shots then he probably should not be playing a ton.
And EKU is a MASSIVE step down from Xavier and the BE.
Just for fun, the guy who appears to be playing point for EKU (Jomaru Brown) has literally the highest usage rate in America (39%!) at an offensive rating of 75.6 (41% from 2, 24% from 3). He also has a higher turnover rate than Q. It's actually too perfect they have someone that aggresively bad at point guard.
EKU is also 6-11 against KenPom's 322nd toughest schedule.
UCGRAD4X
01-20-2020, 09:01 AM
Jones coming across somewhat unfazed about the situation during his post game interview... and not taking it upon himself as a senior leader who is disgusted with the team’s poor performance and fired up about getting things right.
It would be nice if he channeled some of that passion and flexing and bravado he shows on the court to get this team going off of it.
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