Quentin Good-in today’s games

[IM4X]

Not a pretty win. Lots that continue to be frustrating, but I wanted to give props to Q for stepping up and going 9/11 today (including 4-4 from 3). Starting to wonder if he moves better and plays looser without Naji on the court. This game should give him some confidence that he can play well when he is free to operate in a way that works best for him and isn’t stifling.

“Core 4” sounds like a group who has always had perfect chemistry together, but honestly we know that is not the case. They simply are 4 guys who have played together for two plus years now. They never truly seemed to compliment or complete one another in the same way that some teams have from the past. Even the team that had Tre as the main go to guy, also had a bunch of complimentary players who were always anticipating teammates moves and were expected to make the smart pass or see the opportunity for an easy bucket. This team has behaved as if the offensive game plan is for everyone to just get the ball to Naji, Paula or Jones and see if they can do something first... and only go to others if they are struggling.

[xu82]

I don’t know what to make of it. It’s like they take turns being good, but don’t do it all together. Hopefully we peak by the end of the season, learn how to play “together” and go on a run. It does seem strange to me.

[SemajParlor]

Great game from Q. I agree, this team if particularly bizarre, because the the talent appears to be there. Who knows maybe come March everything will click. We saw some of it come end of the year last year.

[IM4X]

I don’t know what to make of it. It’s like they take turns being good, but don’t do it all together. Hopefully we peak by the end of the season, learn how to play “together” and go on a run. It does seem strange to me.

Yes. Playing “together” where there is better movement on offense and where players are able to better anticipate a teammate’s next move is a big part of what this team seems to be missing (aside from their outside shooting).

[IM4X]

Great game from Q. I agree, this team if particularly bizarre, because the the talent appears to be there. Who knows maybe come March everything will click. We saw some of it come end of the year last year.

Too bad it was too little too late last year.

While it is encouraging to hear Travis recognize and speak to the problems that we all see, it would be far more encouraging to see that he is capable of teaching his players how fix those problems.

[bleedXblue]

Grade school level offense right now. Not much is improving. Great game from Q, most of his points were scored by him simply beating his man off the dribble and getting to the basket. It helped that WC doesn't have a shot blocker in the paint.

[Xville]

I have slammed q when his play was awful, so I'm happy to praise him when he has a helluva game as he did last night. Great job by him and hope he can build on this game for the rest of the year.

With that said, about half the game was some of the ugliest basketball I have ever seen on the offensive side of the ball. Scruggs couldnt even pass the ball last night. It seriously looked like grade school sets.

[jhelmes37]

Last night was a struggle and was really frustrating to watch at times until the last 10 or so minutes.

That being said, I'd rather be "struggling" at 10-2 than struggling at 7-5.

Preseason, every one of us would have been ecstatic at 10-2, 12 games in.

[Xville]

Last night was a struggle and was really frustrating to watch at times until the last 10 or so minutes.

That being said, I'd rather be "struggling" at 10-2 than struggling at 7-5.

Preseason, every one of us would have been ecstatic at 10-2, 12 games in.

With our schedule up to this point, I dunno if ecstatic about being 10-2 is the word.

[jhelmes37]

With our schedule up to this point, I dunno if ecstatic about being 10-2 is the word.

How about "on track"?

I remember seeing 10-3 as being "about right" tossed around.

Maybe I'm mis-remembering...

Either way, it's not a sky is falling scenario by any means.

I remember 8-5 in the OOC in the Crawford year... sometimes it takes some time to get going.

[Xville]

How about "on track"?

I remember seeing 10-3 as being "about right" tossed around.

Maybe I'm mis-remembering...

Either way, it's not a sky is falling scenario by any means.

I remember 8-5 in the OOC in the Crawford year... sometimes it takes some time to get going.

Yeah agreed with on track. I was thinking before the season started that 11-2 in non con would be right. I expected a loss somewhere in the tourney and then tcu. A win at tcu would be huge. They arent a great team by any means, but it would be a solid road victory.

The thing that is frustrating about this team is there is clearly a heck of a lot of talent on the team. I mean paul and naji may be playing in the league one day and ty and q will probably make some money overseas. However, they dont play well all together, just no cohesiveness I have seen outside of a few games at the end of last year. Maybe it is just roster construction and it is the ole square peg round hole scenario.

[bleedXblue]

We haven't even played a good team yet? I mean a really good team. Florida right now I would say is a likely NCAA tourney team. That's it.

10-2 yeah the record looks ok, but we ALL know this team is far from where is COULD/SHOULD be.

[scoscox]

We haven't even played a good team yet? I mean a really good team. Florida right now I would say is a likely NCAA tourney team. That's it.

10-2 yeah the record looks ok, but we ALL know this team is far from where is COULD/SHOULD be.

florida is top 25 in kenpom. not elite, but very good.

[Xville]

Yeah I think florida is a damn good team and one of tenish teams that could cut down the nets. They haven't put it all together yet but they are dripping in talent, maybe more than any other team this year.

[noteggs]

Great game from Q. Some of the best overall and efficient stats we’ve had from a player all year. Thanks to IM4X for starting this thread to recognize his efforts.

[BandDad]

Don't look now but Q is our best three-point shooter on the year now. Let's just hope he keeps it going. He looked really good last night.

Carter also showed some confidence last night for what I thought was the first time all year.

[IM4X]

Great game from Q. Some of the best overall and efficient stats we’ve had from a player all year. Thanks to IM4X for starting this thread to recognize his efforts.

Thanks noteggs... I just thought we owe it to him. I believe this game we saw the real Quentin Goodin.

I would love for us to all to get back on the Q-wagon. I think if we are all honest, we’d admit that we knew he is a very talented player who has just been off for a number of reasons (not related to skill level). I’ve gotta believe part of his struggles are because he has been asked to play in a way that is not natural for him. Steele needs to figure out (rewatch the game) and see why Q was so loose and comfortable and effective last night... and then try to keep him doing those things the way he did them.

It is hard to ignore the fact that Naji was out when Q shined. One almost has to wonder if Q has been asked to run the offense (at least when Naji is in the game) in a way that has caused him to feel out of rhythm and out of position, which has made it harder for him to confidently do the things he does best.

[IM4X]

Don't look now but Q is our best three-point shooter on the year now. Let's just hope he keeps it going. He looked really good last night.

Carter also showed some confidence last night for what I thought was the first time all year.

Hmm... Carter played better without Naji too. Okay, Never would I suggest the team is better off with out Naji- that would be silly- but it does seem reasonable that there is a flow and/or even rhythm issue that might be going on when Naji in the game.

Is Naji’s rather sporadic movement causing his teammates to become out of sync? Has this team not built that kind of chemistry yet which comes from learning to anticipate what their teammates are likely where they are going to or what they are likely to do next and how they will play off of that information.

[bleedXblue]

I do think this team struggles with not having that Alpha Dog scorer. I think they all get in each others way some..... It would also help a bunch if we ran an offense that created more open looks. That's simply not happening right now.

Also, for a team that struggles shooting, you would think that we would try to pick up the pace some and pressure the ball more defensively. Hoping to create some easy fast break points.

[Xville]

I think the team would actually be better without one of q, naji or paul on the team. Not saying they arent talented, they obviously are, but they dont seem to fit well together. Could be wrong on this, but I think the team is undefeated when one of them isnt playing the last two years. It's a weird phenomenon.

[Muskie]

Goodin needs 74 points in the remaining games to join the 1000 point club. He's one of 4 players who could joint the 1,000 point club THIS YEAR.

[bleedXblue]

I think the team would actually be better without one of q, naji or paul on the team. Not saying they arent talented, they obviously are, but they dont seem to fit well together. Could be wrong on this, but I think the team is undefeated when one of them isnt playing the last two years. It's a weird phenomenon.

Seriously they ALL aren't Alpha Dog type scorers, so they sort of wait for the other guy to step up..........with one of them out I think they KNOW they have to step up and take it upon themselves. It is for sure very strange

[xcellentx]

I think the team would actually be better without one of q, naji or paul on the team. Not saying they arent talented, they obviously are, but they dont seem to fit well together. Could be wrong on this, but I think the team is undefeated when one of them isnt playing the last two years. It's a weird phenomenon.

I think it is a stretch to say we would be better if you completely removed one of them from the team, but I do think they don't fit great together. If one of them had a bit more of a skillset like Blueitt we would be a lot better off.

[Xuperman]

Don't look now but Q is our best three-point shooter on the year now. Let's just hope he keeps it going. He looked really good last night.

I have been a staunch supporter of Q throughout. Imagine if he could have swapped 1 of the 4 last night for that last one at Wake....he could be considered a cold blooded sniper...:logo:

[UCGRAD4X]

It would be unbelievable if Q could do that every game (obviously not going to happen). If would great if he could do it even occasionally (past performance, particularly as we progress to recent, indicated it to be highly unlikely). Heck, I would like to see him do it one more time (NCAA Finals, anyone?). What we really need from Quentin is consistency and stability, sprinkled with some of that flash he showed against the Catamounts...and Leadership!

I'm glad he did it. Really glad. Thrilled. Could be a once in a career performance.

Hats off to you Q.

What else you got?

[GIMMFD]

Definitely happy to see this thread, because Q gets a lot of abuse, whether right or wrong. He's quietly become very efficient from behind the arc after the Florida game, so that's really good to see, I do agree with everyone else here though that the chemistry seems off. It feels like if one guy is going off, the other 3 default and just feed him the ball and let him go to work, things don't move together as a unit. Also agree that the skill sets don't compliment each other, but the positive is that we have one of four options on any given night to go out and put together a really solid game. I'd love to see a solid game by all four at the same time though.

[American X]

Q is a warrior. I, for one, am glad that I have never questioned his scoring ability.

The difference was his shots were in the flow of the offense rather than forced with 25 seconds on the shot clocked.

[xukeith]

Hmm... Carter played better without Naji too. Okay, Never would I suggest the team is better off with out Naji- that would be silly- but it does seem reasonable that there is a flow and/or even rhythm issue that might be going on when Naji in the game.

Is Naji’s rather sporadic movement causing his teammates to become out of sync? Has this team not built that kind of chemistry yet which comes from learning to anticipate what their teammates are likely where they are going to or what they are likely to do next and how they will play off of that information.

X played well for 15 minutes. The 25 minutes were wild and crazy. The flow of the game is need for at least 25 minutes with every player on the same page. I am not sure if it will take another month before the entire team is in sync.

[JTG]

I think it is a stretch to say we would be better if you completely removed one of them from the team, but I do think they don't fit great together. If one of them had a bit more of a skillset like Blueitt we would be a lot better off.

Maybe don't play all 3 together. Give them equal time, but just have 2 of them on the court at once.

[Lloyd Braun]

None of them are great shooters so naturally when you have a lineup full of non-shooters the floor shrinks. Individually they are solid but as a group they need someone to get hot to be highly effective.... Q has had stretches of being a great shooter despite flack from internet trolls. Unfortunately it is highly variable and streaky which is not something to be relied upon.... This team needs an elite shooter in the worst way.

[UCGRAD4X]

Q is a warrior. I, for one, am glad that I have never questioned his scoring ability.

The difference was his shots were in the flow of the offense rather than forced with 25 seconds on the shot clocked.

I'm not sure how many questioned his ability - that was obvious early on - you don't just lose that. To me, anyway, he was just not bringing that to the games. He was not developing that ability as time went by and understanding himself, that ability, his potential, his teammates and the team concept etc. and being a leader from the point.

In fact, it probably would not have been so maddeningly frustrating if he he did not have such an obvious ability. We've been waiting for him to do something with it.

I may be paraphrasing Ross Perot, but he used to say something to the affect that; some people think sayin' is doin' - sayin' ain't doin' - only doin' is doin'.

Q displayed the ability and started doin' his job...and then some.

[xu koop scoop]

Thank you Q for taking over mid-season Freshman year for Mr Sumner who helped us build an NCAA Resume with his 20 games. We don't make the dance without Sumner's help. Tre got hurt & we lost 6 straight BE games. With a BE Tourney win vs Butler we get an #11 seed.
You then direct us past #6 Maryland, steamroll #3 Fla St & then defeat #2 Zona on the West Coast (one of our best wins ever). You finish with 74 Assist & 34 TO in 1/2 season. Your sophmore year you get 171 Assists & 80 TO. The Assists are high cause the players you pass to make a big % of their shots. That takes pressure off you to shoot & you go 45% FG. 30% 3 PT & 79% FT. Junior year & the shooting talent is mostly gone. Assists go to 149 with 85 TO. With worse shooters, the Assists go down cause others shots don't go in. Now it's your final go round & the shooting talent is no better than your Junior year. You can keep dishing while they keep missing or shoot more yourself. The safe haven you had your 1st two seasons is long gone. The Core 4 can't gel like your 1st two teams because there are no great shooters in that group. Due to a lack of reliable shooters is why I imagine you keep hoisting up the shots. More pressure on yourself than ever. Prepare yourself to shine like never before. It's now or never. Good Luck Q

[UCGRAD4X]

That is the hope. As I have said elsewhere, it is exactly this past potential that makes more recent performances frustrating.

You do make a good point about supporting cast, however, in the last two games he has shown contrasting evidence that he can play with an understanding of those deficiencies.

First, he takes it more upon himself to take (and make) well-timed opportunistic shots and play to his driving and dishing strength, not always taking it to the teeth of the defense and getting stuck because the defense KNOWS he is going to put it up instead of 'rarely' passing out of the triple team. He is using his vision, quickness and and athletic ability to beat the defense and work more at the edges to get good shots.

Yesterday he used his ability to see other members, perhaps because of his previous game and a more concerted effort to focus on him.

Playing within himself, letting the game come to him, and taking what the defense gives him (do I know basketball cliches or what!).

Happy days are here again.

[IM4X]

I get the frustration some fans have had with Q. A senior point guard who should be playing his best ball, who should be rock solid by now on the court has been making more poor decisions than he had been doing as a freshman. Shooting worse. Defending worse. It was becoming particularly frustrating because Q had proven he was capable of playing smarter and harder and more focused.

Well, I saw Q cone out playing more focused and determined on Wednesday against Marquette. I think he has turned a corner.

I do think sometimes he unfairly gets attacked more than he deserves.

Here are a few facts about Q and the Marquette game:

Without Q’s 3 point shooting, X wouldn’t have had a chance against Marquette

Q shot and played better than Kyky.
Q shot and played better than Carter.
Q was a more efficient scorer than Naji
Q played 10 min less than Scruggs, yet Q got to the line 6 times while Paul didn’t get there once.
Q shot 5-8 from 3 (62.5%)
Q only had 1 turnover (Paul had 3 and Naji had 2)

I get that it wasn’t a perfect game by Q. He did struggle shooting inside the arc and he did give up some buckets on defense (but so did other players) He also did a number of things pretty darn well. He took some rather big steps forward again in my book.

We all know how important this Seton Hall game is.

I look forward to our seniors (yes Q and Jones) playing some of their best basketball tomorrow and lead their team to victory.

This is where everyone steps it up and turns things around!

Let’s Go X!

[whopper]

nice summary and I hope the players (and fans) can keep their chins up. This is disappointing for sure and the reasons are both physical and psychological and could be reviewed forever and almost in a Masters thesis. 6 weeks from now is the Big East Tournament so the ultimate fate will be known in a very short time. Let's Go X.

[Xville]

So q has one good game and all is forgiven? Hes been dreadful this year and most of last year. Hes been a complete disappointment and a big reason why the team has been the way they have been the last year and a half. I hope he turns into senior year Chalmers but let's reserve the "q is redeemed" talk for if he plays well a few games in a row

[UCGRAD4X]

I get the frustration some fans have had with Q. A senior point guard who should be playing his best ball, who should be rock solid by now on the court has been making more poor decisions than he had been doing as a freshman. Shooting worse. Defending worse. It was becoming particularly frustrating because Q had proven he was capable of playing smarter and harder and more focused.

Well, I saw Q cone out playing more focused and determined on Wednesday against Marquette. I think he has turned a corner.

I do think sometimes he unfairly gets attacked more than he deserves.

Here are a few facts about Q and the Marquette game:

Without Q’s 3 point shooting, X wouldn’t have had a chance against Marquette

Q shot and played better than Kyky.
Q shot and played better than Carter.
Q was a more efficient scorer than Naji
Q played 10 min less than Scruggs, yet Q got to the line 6 times while Paul didn’t get there once.
Q shot 5-8 from 3 (62.5%)
Q only had 1 turnover (Paul had 3 and Naji had 2)

I get that it wasn’t a perfect game by Q. He did struggle shooting inside the arc and he did give up some buckets on defense (but so did other players) He also did a number of things pretty darn well. He took some rather big steps forward again in my book.

We all know how important this Seton Hall game is.

I look forward to our seniors (yes Q and Jones) playing some of their best basketball tomorrow and lead their team to victory.

This is where everyone steps it up and turns things around!

Let’s Go X!

I hope this is not your standard of excellence.

[Xville]

Yeah q still sucks

[IM4X]

I hope this is not your standard of excellence.

Ha.

Kyky looked pretty good today. If this is the Kyky we see from now on, we are all going to feel a little better.

Goodin had some solid minutes early on but then let that sloppy, lazy stupidity of his creep out of him. He may have been tired, but 2 of his turnovers were absolutely inexcusable.

Hey, at least I got it right that we would see Jones playing some of his best ball today. Man was he good today!!!!

[xukeith]

Ha.


Hey, at least I got it right that we would see Jones playing some of his best ball today. Man was he good today!!!!

If he doesn't get BE player of the week, nobody should.

[IM4X]

Yeah q still sucks

I get the frustration but I don’t get the vitriol.

[IM4X]

If he doesn't get BE player of the week, nobody should.

Agree... that was just a superhuman performance!

we need his senior leadership. He is setting the standard of Xavier excellence. Others need to follow.

[Juice]

Ha.

Kyky looked pretty good today. If this is the Kyky we see from now on, we are all going to feel a little better.

Goodin had some solid minutes early on but then let that sloppy, lazy stupidity of his creep out of him. He may have been tired, but 2 of his turnovers were absolutely inexcusable.

Hey, at least I got it right that we would see Jones playing some of his best ball today. Man was he good today!!!!

Early in the game I thought Quentin was showing a role he could develop for himself but then he turned it over a bunch in the second half. I did like how he attacked the rim, but couldn't finish.

[bleedXblue]

I get the frustration but I don’t get the vitriol.

Well, he's having a pretty lousy year in almost every possible statistical category there is?

Hes a senior PG and 4 year starter. You expect more from a player in his position.

[IM4X]

Early in the game I thought Quentin was showing a role he could develop for himself but then he turned it over a bunch in the second half. I did like how he attacked the rim, but couldn't finish.

Agreed. Just in the past few games he has been attacking the rim more. We need that from him.

It was posted on the SH thread that Steele needs to do more layups drills and FT practice. Q absolute needs layup drills. I don’t care that he is a senior. If I were Travis I wouldn’t let him leave practice until he made 20 contested layups in a row. He is obviously not getting the ball on the right spot of the glass. Fix that and the ball goes in. Carter has the same issue. They both driving with focus but then lose it just as they release the ball. Coaches need to step in and fix it now.

[bleedXblue]

Agreed. Just in the past few games he has been attacking the rim more. We need that from him.

It was posted on the SH thread that Steele needs to do more layups drills and FT practice. Q absolute needs layup drills. I don’t care that he is a senior. If I were Travis I wouldn’t let him leave practice until he made 20 contested layups in a row. He is obviously not getting the ball on the right spot of the glass. Fix that and the ball goes in. Carter has the same issue. They both driving with focus but then lose it just as they release the ball. Coaches need to step in and fix it now.

Q doesn't initiate contact to get himself some space. Add to that the potential for a foul call.........He's not athletic enough and doesn't have enough speed to get by guys and finish.

[IM4X]

Well, he's having a pretty lousy year in almost every possible statistical category there is?

Hes a senior PG and 4 year starter. You expect more from a player in his position.

Absolutely more is expected of him. I completely agree. My point is the frustration is merited. Q has not played 40 minutes of really good basketball in many games. But we know he is capable. But he doesn’t suck as a player- he is just often making too many stupid mistakes. Therein lies the difference. Q is absolutely a BE caliber starter. It’s just frustrating as hell when we see him not play up to his potential - especially a senior.

[IM4X]

Q doesn't initiate contact to get himself some space. Add to that the potential for a foul call.........He's not athletic enough and doesn't have enough speed to get by guys and finish.

I agree that he didn’t initiate contact today like he should have (like he did last game against Marquette). I think he is quick enough- though it does seem like he may have lost a bit of his “first step” speed from his Sophomore year. I rewatched the 1st round of the NCAA tournament (the year he was a sophomore and Tre and JP were seniors). Q looked young and hungry and a step faster than he does now. He made a few mistakes,, but he played hard 100% of the time he was on the court.

It must be pointed out that Scruggs very rarely initiates contact when he drives and Moore has become a complete liability on offense because he to can’t make a layup and never comes close to initiating contact. Every guard (and Carter) needs layup drills badly.

[slysyl]

Q's problem is those 4AM feedings.

[xavierj]

I agree that he didn’t initiate contact today like he should have (like he did last game against Marquette). I think he is quick enough- though it does seem like he may have lost a bit of his “first step” speed from his Sophomore year. I rewatched the 1st round of the NCAA tournament (the year he was a sophomore and Tre and JP were seniors). Q looked young and hungry and a step faster than he does now. He made a few mistakes,, but he played hard 100% of the time he was on the court.

It must be pointed out that Scruggs very rarely initiates contact when he drives and Moore has become a complete liability on offense because he to can’t make a layup and never comes close to initiating contact. Every guard (and Carter) needs layup drills badly.

This is hilarious. Steele needs to practice like a 6th grade basketball team and practice more layups. I heard they should also practice free throws at the end when they are tired. I think whoever makes the most free throws should get an ice cream cone as a reward. Look go on down to practice, these guys go at it pretty hard and get a lot of reps going at the rim with people contending their shots. They make these shots in practice but struggle in games. They need confidence, not more practice. Confidence will come when they have success in the actual games. They can’t practice any more than they already are. This time of year with so many games close to each other, plus mandated days off, you only have so much time and a lot of that time is getting ready for the game you are getting ready to play. Most all college basketball teams have similar practice routines and setups as everyone else.

[IM4X]

This is hilarious. Steele needs to practice like a 6th grade basketball team and practice more layups. I heard they should also practice free throws at the end when they are tired. I think whoever makes the most free throws should get an ice cream cone as a reward. Look go on down to practice, these guys go at it pretty hard and get a lot of reps going at the rim with people contending their shots. They make these shots in practice but struggle in games. They need confidence, not more practice. Confidence will come when they have success in the actual games. They can’t practice any more than they already are. This time of year with so many games close to each other, plus mandated days off, you only have so much time and a lot of that time is getting ready for the game you are getting ready to play. Most all college basketball teams have similar practice routines and setups as everyone else.

Wanna know what’s not hilarious: Q and Carter missing way more easy bunnies than they make. When is this confidence you speak about going to all of the sudden kick in for them during a game- there are less than 10 games left in the regular season and those two still struggle to make a layup. If a player consistently can’t make a simple shot in a game that most 6th graders can make, then it is time to intervene and treat him like a 6th grader. I don’t care if it is a coach or Naji, but someone needs to show those two where the ball needs to hit on the glass to actually have a chance for it to go in the hoop.

Does it really matter that they “go at it pretty hard in practice,” if the coaches aren’t working in practice to improve those specific things individual players are struggling to do well in games. I’ll give you the answer: No. Hearing from a coach, “They work hard in practice” means crap if starters continue to make bad passes or take bad shots or even lay the ball up too hard or on the wrong spot on the glass.

I get that there is limited time for practice- but not every team (nor every player) has the same issues they are dealing with so I certainly hope Steele isn’t doing a one-size-fits-all approach to practice as you are suggesting. A smart coach will step in and fix what is not getting better on its own... especially if it is something a six grader can do pretty well.

[xavierj]

Wanna know what’s not hilarious: Q and Carter missing way more easy bunnies than they make. When is this confidence you speak about going to all of the sudden kick in for them during a game- there are less than 10 games left in the regular season and those two still struggle to make a layup. If a player consistently can’t make a simple shot in a game that most 6th graders can make, then it is time to intervene and treat him like a 6th grader. I don’t care if it is a coach or Naji, but someone needs to show those two where the ball needs to hit on the glass to actually have a chance for it to go in the hoop.

Does it really matter that they “go at it pretty hard in practice,” if the coaches aren’t working in practice to improve those specific things individual players are struggling to do well in games. I’ll give you the answer: No. Hearing from a coach, “They work hard in practice” means crap if starters continue to make bad passes or take bad shots or even lay the ball up too hard or on the wrong spot on the glass.

I get that there is limited time for practice- but not every team (nor every player) has the same issues they are dealing with so I certainly hope Steele isn’t doing a one-size-fits-all approach to practice as you are suggesting. A smart coach will step in and fix what is not getting better on its own... especially if it is something a six grader can do pretty well.

These guys are college coaches. You think you Know more than them? Come on now. They are not dumb, they work on everything. It’s up to the player to get it done. It’s a confidence thing. I just thought it was funny that message boards suggest layup lines to improve the players. These guys have been practicing layups since they were probably 5.

[bleedXblue]

These guys are college coaches. You think you Know more than them? Come on now. They are not dumb, they work on everything. It’s up to the player to get it done. It’s a confidence thing. I just thought it was funny that message boards suggest layup lines to improve the players. These guys have been practicing layups since they were probably 5.

I'd like to add that 6th graders don't have 7 foot athletic shot blockers waiting for them either......yes, Q and Carter don't finish well at the rim. I think its more technique than anything. Neither try to draw contact first to create any separation or draw a foul. Both aren't super athletic either.......so they have to be really efficient when they do.

[AviatorX]

Wanna know what’s not hilarious: Q and Carter missing way more easy bunnies than they make. When is this confidence you speak about going to all of the sudden kick in for them during a game- there are less than 10 games left in the regular season and those two still struggle to make a layup. If a player consistently can’t make a simple shot in a game that most 6th graders can make, then it is time to intervene and treat him like a 6th grader. I don’t care if it is a coach or Naji, but someone needs to show those two where the ball needs to hit on the glass to actually have a chance for it to go in the hoop.

Does it really matter that they “go at it pretty hard in practice,” if the coaches aren’t working in practice to improve those specific things individual players are struggling to do well in games. I’ll give you the answer: No. Hearing from a coach, “They work hard in practice” means crap if starters continue to make bad passes or take bad shots or even lay the ball up too hard or on the wrong spot on the glass.

I get that there is limited time for practice- but not every team (nor every player) has the same issues they are dealing with so I certainly hope Steele isn’t doing a one-size-fits-all approach to practice as you are suggesting. A smart coach will step in and fix what is not getting better on its own... especially if it is something a six grader can do pretty well.

Did you really just suggest someone show Q and Carter how to use the backboard?

Have you ever seen a college or even competitive high school practice?

The time to work on individual skill development is not February when you need to install new actions and how you’re going to cover specific actions of the high major teams you’re about to play. Jesus Christ.

[bleedXblue]

did you really just suggest someone show q and carter how to use the backboard?

Have you ever seen a college or even competitive high school practice?

The time to work on individual skill development is not february when you need to install new actions and how you’re going to cover specific actions of the high major teams you’re about to play. Jesus christ.

lol

[N67ER]

I do not agree that Q is not athletic. Unless my memory fails me, he set a record for the vertical leap. He is big he is strong and he has high level quickness. The problem, as I see it, is that he doesn’t take advantage of his athletic ability. I get frustrated watching him move so slowly at the top on our offensive sets. He needs to play faster all the time

[IM4X]

Did you really just suggest someone show Q and Carter how to use the backboard?

Have you ever seen a college or even competitive high school practice?

The time to work on individual skill development is not February when you need to install new actions and how you’re going to cover specific actions of the high major teams you’re about to play. Jesus Christ.

Yes I have seen many high school and college practices thank you and I did suggest those two need some help carton of eggs dude. There is a real issue - whether it is all technique or partly mental and it needs to get fixed -because they’ve been struggling miserably with making simple layups all year that other guys on the team are making and it could cost the team a game - so yes - pull the two guys aside and get it fixed now- because it apparently isn’t getting resolved by itself.

By the way, how did you know I was Jesus Christ?

[IM4X]

These guys are college coaches. You think you Know more than them? Come on now. They are not dumb, they work on everything. It’s up to the player to get it done. It’s a confidence thing. I just thought it was funny that message boards suggest layup lines to improve the players. These guys have been practicing layups since they were probably 5.

I get that it might seem silly for two D1 level players to need help with something as fundamental as a layup, but the reality is that those two miss way too many easy bunnies game after game... and that is not funny. I am not actually suggesting layup drills- just a coach to pull these two guys aside and help get this corrected for the gents- whether it is 100% mental or 100% technique or somewhere in between.

If X ends up loses a game down the road that keeps them from a possible at large bid because those two guys missed a number of uncontested (or barely contested) layups, no one is going to be laughing.

Coaches pull bigs aside all of the time to work on improving footwork technique. They ought to be able to fix this too.

[bobbiemcgee]

The time to work on individual skill development is not February when you need to install new actions and how you’re going to cover specific actions of the high major teams you’re about to play. Jesus Christ.

If Jesus can make ft's, sign him up.

[bleedXblue]

I do not agree that Q is not athletic. Unless my memory fails me, he set a record for the vertical leap. He is big he is strong and he has high level quickness. The problem, as I see it, is that he doesn’t take advantage of his athletic ability. I get frustrated watching him move so slowly at the top on our offensive sets. He needs to play faster all the time

I think you are saying that he doesn't play with athleticism........

Which I would agree

[SemajParlor]

Goodin is shooting 7/14 from 3 in his last 3 games, was fantastic against Marquette and played particularly well last night.

There were reasons to be critical, but I'm ok with certain usernames and twitter names that were especially hateful and personal stay on their side. Good stretch of ball from our 4 year guard.

[sirthought]

I like him off the bench 100% more this season.

His experience is valuable when others need to take a breather.

[noteggs]

Nice interview with Q. Nice perspective on his confidence towards the end.

https://twitter.com/John_Fanta/status/1224931561319124993