2019-2020 College Basketball Season Thread

[GIMMFD]

Bob Knight is a terrible person, so I guess I don't feel too sorry for him, but IU exploiting a guy with dementia who vowed otherwise not to come back was sad.

I thought he was going to clock Dick Vitale, that would have been incredible.

[sirthought]

This site currently has Xavier vs Cincinnati in the playin game. https://bracketologists.com/bracket/

[xubrew]

This site currently has Xavier vs Cincinnati in the playin game. https://bracketologists.com/bracket/

They wouldn’t put them together since they played during the season if there is a way to avoid it without moving anyone out of the First Four. New guideline this year.

[noteggs]

They wouldn’t put them together since they played during the season if there is a way to avoid it without moving anyone out of the First Four. New guideline this year.

True and this site has matchups based on NET rankings which you have described correctly as not reality.

[kellernr]

They wouldn’t put them together since they played during the season if there is a way to avoid it without moving anyone out of the First Four. New guideline this year.They would have to play Oklahoma if that was the 1st 4 since they also played florida already. X will be higher than a 12 and after Memphis beats cincy the bear kittens will be basically done.

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[X-band '01]

VCU is a complete fraud. And after watching Houston destroy Wichita State, there isn't enough air freshener in that conference to cover up the stink of their profiles.

[X-man]

This site currently has Xavier vs Cincinnati in the playin game. https://bracketologists.com/bracket/

Not today. Now X is an 11-seed, while UC plays Florida in Dayton.

[xubrew]

Based on the top 16 that the committee released, they seem to at least be factoring in the predictive metrics like KenPom and a few others. The most obvious example of that is Dayton. Their resume tops out with a neutral win against SMC, and a road win at Saint Louis. While the resume is good, it's very rare that you see a team on one of the top two lines didn't beat anyone in the top half of the bracket. The stated reason at the teleconference was their metrics, and that both of their losses were in overtime. While I certainly agree that overtime losses to teams like Kansas shouldn't count against you, I don't know if I agree that it should be a point of merit.

Michigan State is another example of a team that is seeded higher than just the value of their wins and losses. They did win at Seton Hall and Minnesota, but Minnesota probably won't make the field, and other than that they've basically beaten teams at home that are good overall, but that are bad in true road games. Yet, they get a protected seed, and the only thing you can really point to is the predictive metrics.

Another thing that they seem to be obsessed with a little more than they should is OOC SOS. I agree that it's very important to play a tough schedule, but the reason it's important is because you need wins that will impress the committee, and the tougher your schedule is, the easier it is to do that. I'm not in favor of rewarding teams who played a tough schedule and didn't play well against it simply because they played a tough schedule. But, they seem to be doing that too. Penn State was ahead of Michigan State in the standings, had won at Michigan State, had more road wins, and better overall wins, yet they were seeded behind Michigan State. The stated reason?? OOC SOS. Well, if you have better wins than another team despite the fact that your schedule wasn't quite as tough, shouldn the fact that you have better wins be good enough??

So, once again, they're looking at things as if they were a bunch of ADs and commissioners. Which is, I guess, exactly what they are.

[waggy]

Some UC undergraduates decided to see where all the money went.
Unsurprisingly, a lot goes to an athletic department leaking like a sieve.

https://www.boldlybankrupt.com/

And more evidence why UConn had to call off the chase.

[Xville]

Florida state, just like unc, got duked. Ten seconds left, duke up 3, duke should have got a flagrant 1 called on them, instead foul on florida state. Such a joke

[Xavgrad08]

TCU is currently down by 41 at Texas Tech.

[Lloyd Braun]

TCU is currently down by 41 at Texas Tech.

I watched at least half of this game and it was brutal. Wtf

[GIMMFD]

TCU is currently down by 41 at Texas Tech.

Good thing NET only factors up to 10 points in blowouts right?

[bleedXblue]

Florida state, just like unc, got duked. Ten seconds left, duke up 3, duke should have got a flagrant 1 called on them, instead foul on florida state. Such a joke

Yep, he flailed his elbows which is a technical. It was so obvious that I am surprised Leonard Hamilton didn't get a T.

[xubrew]

Tonight we've got Kansas v West Virginia on ESPN Plus, and games like UConn v SMU and Iowa State v Oklahoma on regular television. Good Job ESPN!!!

[Masterofreality]

Tonight we've got Kansas v West Virginia on ESPN Plus, and games like UConn v SMU and Iowa State v Oklahoma on regular television. Good Job ESPN!!!

They are trying so hard to sell that Crap Caravan that is ESPN+. I doubt many are buying and it forced UCONN back to the Big East.
The four letter network is a joke.

[paulxu]

Tech giving Louisville a game.

[Xavgrad08]

VCU with a brutal loss at home to George Mason.

[scoscox]

They are trying so hard to sell that Crap Caravan that is ESPN+. I doubt many are buying and it forced UCONN back to the Big East.
The four letter network is a joke.

i'm sure fox is fine with it

[Xville]

Losing to pastner is hysterical. Mack coached like it was the round of 32.

[xubrew]

North Carolina will play at Monmouth next year. Man, I guess this really has been a rough year.

[Lloyd Braun]

Officiating is so influence by home crowds sometimes. Memphis getting shafted currently. Makeup calls anticipated so both fans will be pissed....

[xavierj]

Officiating is so influence by home crowds sometimes. Memphis getting shafted currently. Makeup calls anticipated so both fans will be pissed....

This is so true. Memphis got hosed last 5 minutes of regulation. Penny Hardaway has no clue how to work refs as he didn’t say a word. Memphis should have won handily but refs made sure to give UC every opportunity to get back in it.

[xubrew]

Northern Iowa has a really good team this year, but their marketing department sucks!!!

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28695608/northern-iowa-criticized-denying-fan-10000-prize-shooting-promotion

[GIMMFD]

Northern Iowa has a really good team this year, but their marketing department sucks!!!

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28695608/northern-iowa-criticized-denying-fan-10000-prize-shooting-promotion

Ali Farkoumanesh didn't beat Kansas for this crap

[GoMuskies]

Mack had his team ready to go coming off that loss at GT. Fell behind 18-5 @ 12-12 juggernaut Clemson.

[xavierj]

Butler going down at home to Georgetown, who had 5 scholarship players available and no McClung or Yertseven.

[Lloyd Braun]

Butler going down at home to Georgetown, who had 5 scholarship players available and no McClung or Yertseven.

And it will surprise no one when Georgetown loses by double digits to Providence at home on Wednesday

[GoMuskies]

31-14 Clemson over Louisville at the half. Yikes.

[GIMMFD]

31-14 Clemson over Louisville at the half. Yikes.

Boy Clemson just beat the brakes off Louisville, sheesh, also Baylor is bullying WVU right now as well.

[Masterofreality]

61-45 Clemson with 4 to go.

[Xville]

Back to back losses to ga tech and clemson hahhahahahaahhaha...f yourself mack

[AviatorX]

Back to back losses to ga tech and clemson hahhahahahaahhaha...f yourself mack

Watching their second round matchup (if they make it that far) is going to be interesting...unless Mack can really tank it and get to a 6-11 seed where he thrives in March.

[Xavgrad08]

Ranked Texas Tech loses to Oklahoma State. Texas loses by 29 to Iowa State. Any guesses on who is coaching Texas next year?

[Masterofreality]

Ranked Texas Tech loses to Oklahoma State. Texas loses by 29 to Iowa State. Any guesses on who is coaching Texas next year?

Shaka’s Havoc was never going to work vs higher quality competition. It was gimmick basketball. He’s been exposed. Enjoy unemployment Smart.

Note: We lost to that damn team last year. SMH.

[xavierj]

Shaka’s Havoc was never going to work vs higher quality competition. It was gimmick basketball. He’s been exposed. Enjoy unemployment Smart.

Note: We lost to that damn team last year. SMH.

So did Kansas and North Carolina.

[X-band '01]

But he'll still be a hot young coaching candidate somewhere. It will just be for a team either in the American or A-10.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Who is going to be coaching Texas next year? Anthony Grant? Sean Miller? Archie Miller? I would think of Grant is smart he never leave VD, why would you? It’s as good a job as any.

[chico]

I'd think/hope Grant has learned his lesson and the UD job is a perfect one for him.

East Carolina has the ugliest uniforms in college hoops. Puzzle pieces?

[X-band '01]

I think the unis for East Carolina are for Autism Awareness, though. Not going to slam them for that.

[chico]

I think the unis for East Carolina are for Autism Awareness, though. Not going to slam them for that.

Oh well then that makes sense - didn't know. Never mind.

[xubrew]

UConn's women's team has fallen to #6 in the rankings. It is the first time in 253 weeks that they have been ranked outside the top five. Geno is clearly on the hot seat!!!

[XU 23]

Geno has to go. Enough is enough!!

[GoMuskies]

Being in the AAC really is slowly (and I emphasize SLOWLY) strangling the UConn women's program, though. They've tried to schedule up in the non-conference and sprinkle in tough games during the conference season to stem the tide, but they really have dropped off a bit in recent years. Now, that's a drop from winning every game in the NCAA Tournament by double digits to losing maybe once or twice a year but having one of those losses come in the NCAA Tournament to now...gasp!....maybe be a #2 seed, but it's a pretty clear drop.

I'm not sure a move to the Big East stems that tide, but you know Geno is going to be thrilled to be out of the AAC.

[xubrew]

Geno has to go. Enough is enough!!

The question is do you let Geno finish out the season, or do you go ahead and let him go now and just let an interim finish things up?

I know this isn't ending the way that he wanted, but he really did do some good things while he was at UConn. Most have probably forgotten that, but I do hope that he is at least remembered fondly.

[Masterofreality]

I think the unis for East Carolina are for Autism Awareness, though. Not going to slam them for that.

OK. But they certainly were not "Sensory Friendly".

[Masterofreality]

The question is do you let Geno finish out the season, or do you go ahead and let him go now and just let an interim finish things up?

I know this isn't ending the way that he wanted, but he really did do some good things while he was at UConn. Most have probably forgotten that, but I do hope that he is at least remembered fondly.

On that same topic, John Beilein and the Cavs are working out his departure. Stevens is the only guy who has been able to sort of navigate a college job to the pros but he hasn't come close to a championship even with some damn good players and hasn't even gotten to the best record in the Eastern Conference. The Boston hot seat will be happening soon. They are just two totally different games.

[XU 23]

The question is do you let Geno finish out the season, or do you go ahead and let him go now and just let an interim finish things up?

I know this isn't ending the way that he wanted, but he really did do some good things while he was at UConn. Most have probably forgotten that, but I do hope that he is at least remembered fondly.

Program clearly needs a culture change. I say act now!

[Xville]

On that same topic, John Beilein and the Cavs are working out his departure. Stevens is the only guy who has been able to sort of navigate a college job to the pros but he hasn't come close to a championship even with some damn good players and hasn't even gotten to the best record in the Eastern Conference. The Boston hot seat will be happening soon. They are just two totally different games.

You have to have a superstar to win a championship in the nba. Boston doesnt have one. Good players get you to the playoffs

[Masterofreality]

You have to have a superstar to win a championship in the nba. Boston doesnt have one. Good players get you to the playoffs

People thought that Kyrie Irving, Al Horford and Gordon Hayward were going to dominate the East.

[Xavgrad08]

John Beilein is officially out with the Cavs. At 67 it will be interesting what his next step is. He is a darn good College coach.

[OTRMUSKIE]

I def would say it’s time for geno to go. UCONN has been his “beard” for a long time. Just have a presser, come out and then say I have let the program down and it’s time to move on. They are ranked 6th now? That’s embarrassing.

[GIMMFD]

John Beilein is officially out with the Cavs. At 67 it will be interesting what his next step is. He is a darn good College coach.

In all honesty, I wouldn't be surprised to see him take some time away for a little bit, the whole thing with his son stepping down from Niagra before he even coached a game seemed to stress John Beilein out a bit, I could see him taking time away to just focus on his family, and maybe go into the commentator/analyst route, ultimately he was in over his head trying to preach fundamentals to NBA guys, you gotta coach miles differently to those guys.


People thought that Kyrie Irving, Al Horford and Gordon Hayward were going to dominate the East.

I definitely thought Boston was going to challenge the Cavs more than they did, especially with the development of Tatum, Brown, and Rozier the year Kyrie was out, eventually they all just couldn't click, and Kyrie bounced. Kemba is a decent fit there, I'm interested into seeing if Stevens can end up getting over the hump with the Celtics, but if anything he's making some pretty damn good coin trying even if he does get fired eventually.

[Xavgrad08]

UC loses at home in double OT to UCF. That has to sting the old tournament chances.

[Lloyd Braun]

UC loses at home in double OT. That has to sting the old tournament chances.

To whom did they lose? Houston? SMU? Wichita St? Surely it was one of the top teams in their respective, right?

[Xavgrad08]

To whom did they lose? Houston? SMU? Wichita St? Surely it was one of the top teams in their respective, right?

Ha, I couldn’t remember which directional Florida school it was . Whether it is UCF, or USF it is a bad loss at home. No way they should be in the Tournament.

[D-West & PO-Z]

UC loses at home in double OT to UCF. That has to sting the old tournament chances.

Hate to see it....

[X-band '01]

UC loses at home in double OT to UCF. That has to sting the old tournament chances.

That is so Cincinnati to hit a halfcourt three only for it to not count because it was after 00.0 on the clock.

[xubrew]

If Kennesaw State loses to North Alabama tonight, they become the first team that's eligible for postseason play to be mathematically eliminated from postseason play.

[usfldan]

I think the unis for East Carolina are for Autism Awareness, though. Not going to slam them for that.

What is Kansas State's excuse? I'd say half their uniforms got lost on the flight, but they are playing at home.

[X-band '01]

Excuse? Those uniforms are awesome!

[xavierj]

West Virginia lost to TCU and is now 7-7 in an average Big 12. They have two wins this year that are any good. At Ohio State and home to Texas Tech

[Xavgrad08]

UCLA was awful earlier in the year. They are playing better and just picked up a win at Colorado. Still will need to win the PAC 12 Tournament to get in.

[xavierj]

UCLA was awful earlier in the year. They are playing better and just picked up a win at Colorado. Still will need to win the PAC 12 Tournament to get in.

The PAC 12 is just really bad.

[noteggs]

Tonight, think Dickie V would make a great UK analysts. As for a unbiased on ESPN analysts, not so much. Time for him to retire.

[Xavgrad08]

Some of the A10 bubble teams had some tough losses tonight. Rhode Island lost at Davidson, Richmond lost at Saint Bonaventure. Big East bubble team Georgetown lost at DePaul. Non bubble team San Diego State lost to UNLV.

[X-band '01]

Providence might have been the one bubble team that really helped themselves with a win today against Marquette. SEC honks were noting that Arkansas was "back in" after beating Missouri to improve to 5-9 in conference play, but take that with a huge grain of salt.

Memphis also beat Houston, but they've got a long way to go and probably need to win the American conference tournament just to get in.

[Xville]

Dayton is probably going to be 2....vomit

[OTRMUSKIE]

I hope VD becomes the #1 team in the country. It’s going to make it that much sweeter when they lose. BC I have watched a lot of their games, if it’s being televised. Best run for them in 50 years and their fans have to ask how they can watch the game, that’s sad. I promise they arnt beating anybody that is good. So far they still haven’t beaten anyone that is good. They very easily could be the second #1 to lose to a 16. Either way they arnt getting out of the first weekend. If X makes the dance, X will make it
Further then VD. That’s a big IF!

[GoMuskies]

Dayton is probably going to be 2....vomit

They'll be 3. Baylor and Kansas will be 1 and 2.

[xu 89]

Hate to see it....

You can roast me but my attitude has changed toward UC. I've softened for them over the past years and now that YTG is gone I don't mind them. Brannen, Tre Scott, and Jerimiah Davenport (former Moeller kid) are hard not to like.

[goldiewilson]

I hope VD becomes the #1 team in the country. It’s going to make it that much sweeter when they lose. BC I have watched a lot of their games, if it’s being televised. Best run for them in 50 years and their fans have to ask how they can watch the game, that’s sad. I promise they arnt beating anybody that is good. So far they still haven’t beaten anyone that is good. They very easily could be the second #1 to lose to a 16. Either way they arnt getting out of the first weekend. If X makes the dance, X will make it
Further then VD. That’s a big IF!

I'd take that bet with you in a heartbeat.

I noticed that your hatred for UD causes you to make really stupid comments at times.

[xubrew]

I'd take that bet with you in a heartbeat.

I noticed that your hatred for UD causes you to make really stupid comments at times.

If Dayton makes it to the national title game and loses in overtime, there will be some on here jumping online and saying "SEE!!! I TOLD YOU THEY WEREN'T ANY GOOD!!"

[X-band '01]

I'd take that bet with you in a heartbeat.

I noticed that your hatred for UD causes you to make really stupid comments at times.

He secretly loves them and posts more about them than Xavier.

That's why I had to break out the ignore button for him. The only way I'll see his posts is if people keep quoting him.

[GIMMFD]

West Virginia lost to TCU and is now 7-7 in an average Big 12. They have two wins this year that are any good. At Ohio State and home to Texas Tech

I thought our board was bad, but man the WVU guys are in pure shambles about this team, since it's a typical Huggins team that can play decent defense, but cannot score worth a damn, also have a lot of guys who make a lot of stupid bone headed mistakes, like dumb turnovers, etc. I'm starting to wonder if any team in the country is actually good with fundamentals to be honest.



UCLA was awful earlier in the year. They are playing better and just picked up a win at Colorado. Still will need to win the PAC 12 Tournament to get in.

UCLA confuses me, loses to a GOD AWFUL UNC team this year, but sweeps Colorado and has clipped Arizona once. Definitely think they gotta win the tournament, but I don't see a Mick Cronin coached team being able to pull off that feat.

[X-band '01]

Conference tournaments aren't necessarily kryptonite for Cronin's teams. Even last year, Oregon stormed through the Pac-12 Tournament after sleepwalking through their regular season. Thing is, if UCLA somehow sweeps the Arizona schools at home and wins at USC, be prepared to hear their name mentioned as a possible NCAA Tournament at-large contender. And one likely headed to Dayton.

[Lloyd Braun]

I thought our board was bad, but man the WVU guys are in pure shambles about this team, since it's a typical Huggins team that can play decent defense, but cannot score worth a damn, also have a lot of guys who make a lot of stupid bone headed mistakes, like dumb turnovers, etc.

*Spiderman pointing gif*

[murray87]

This UConn situation is rather nasty:

https://sports.yahoo.com/kevin-ollie-uconn-lawsuit-dan-hurley-subpoena-001348250.html

[xubrew]

This UConn situation is rather nasty:

https://sports.yahoo.com/kevin-ollie-uconn-lawsuit-dan-hurley-subpoena-001348250.html

A little bit nasty, but I still think UConn is in the right legally. At least I THINK so. Some of our lawyers and legal experts will undoubtedly know more.

So, for those that don't know Kevin Ollie was fired by UConn and later received a show cause for NCAA violations. Because of that, UConn is claiming that they do not have to buy out his contract and don't owe him any money. That seems right to me. I can only assume that Ollie's lawyers are subpoenaing Dan Hurly to ask him when exactly UConn had been in touch with him about becoming the head coach in the hopes that if it was before UConn knew about the NCAA allegations that they cannot claim he was terminated for cause.

Here is my question. Does it matter?? He would have been terminated for cause as soon as they did know. If there was any language at all in his contract about following NCAA rules, and I cannot imagine that there wasn't, then even if they didn't know then I still don't see why they'd owe him anything since they can definitively prove that he breached the contract.

[GoMuskies]

Dayton couldn't overtake Gonzaga in the AP poll. Only nudged up one spot (passing SD State). Do you think there's any chance the Selection Committee would have a region with Dayton as the #1 seed and SD State as the #2 seed? I doubt it.

[xubrew]

Dayton couldn't overtake Gonzaga in the AP poll. Only nudged up one spot (passing SD State). Do you think there's any chance the Selection Committee would have a region with Dayton as the #1 seed and SD State as the #2 seed? I doubt it.

Well, how much of a chance??

They were placed #6 overall when they released the protected seeds a few weeks ago. The thing about Dayton is that it's unusual for a team to be seeded that high with no wins against anyone in the top half of the bracket, and it would be almost unprecedented for them to give a #1 seed to a team like that. But...they might. I gave up trying to guess what they were going to do a long time ago.

[xubrew]

Be sure and tune in for the SECOND HALF of the Hampton v Gardner Webb game tonight!! You may recall that the first half was played back on January 20th, and the game had to be suspended because the shotclocks weren't working.

Does that make this the longest game in the history of the sport??

[GoMuskies]

You may recall

No, you and like 6 other people recall that. Most of the players on both teams probably forgot before the coaches told them to get on the bus this morning!

[xubrew]

No, you and like 6 other people recall that. Most of the players on both teams probably forgot before the coaches told them to get on the bus this morning!

I think I may personally know all six of them

[GIMMFD]

Conference tournaments aren't necessarily kryptonite for Cronin's teams. Even last year, Oregon stormed through the Pac-12 Tournament after sleepwalking through their regular season. Thing is, if UCLA somehow sweeps the Arizona schools at home and wins at USC, be prepared to hear their name mentioned as a possible NCAA Tournament at-large contender. And one likely headed to Dayton.

I agree that it's not the Conference Tournament that's kryptonite, I just kind of think that between Arizona, Colorado, Oregon, and Arizona State that it'd be a tough task with a boring style of basketball, and inability to put up a lot of points. Oregon is pretty damn legit with their guard play, Pritchard is a monster, real joy to watch, definitely could see some tomfoolery happening getting UCLA a First Four invite or whatever though.


*Spiderman pointing gif*

Hahaha honestly the conversations go exactly the same, except the difference is over there is "has the game passed by Huggins" opposed to "Was Steele the right hire," but other than that I could probably copy and paste a few posts there, blur out the names of the players and it'd be literally identical.

[GoMuskies]

Louisville was absolutely cruising at Florida State. Now all of a sudden they're...not. What a shame!

[xavierj]

Louisville was absolutely cruising at Florida State. Now all of a sudden they're...not. What a shame!

Yeah what a shame. Chris Mack hates leads against Florida State. Up 12 now down 13. I think 1 of his 6 freshman played tonight. I would be willing to bet he has at least three transfers this off season. It’s what Chris Mack does. If he is lucky an Uber driver might be available.

[GoMuskies]

Hahaha honestly the conversations go exactly the same, except the difference is over there is "has the game passed by Huggins" opposed to "Was Steele the right hire," but other than that I could probably copy and paste a few posts there, blur out the names of the players and it'd be literally identical.

Well, the WV fans appear to be right, for what it's worth. Yikes.

[Masterofreality]

Louisville was absolutely cruising at Florida State. Now all of a sudden they're...not. What a shame!

Glad he’s making that $5 mil a year and only coaching five (?) more years now to 55?

[GIMMFD]

Well, the WV fans appear to be right, for what it's worth. Yikes.

Yeah, looks like a massive free fall right now, sheesh. The turning point was Huggs completely dressing down the team after a WIN against Iowa State, they haven't even looked remotely the same since. I'll be sure to post some of the gems from tonight once I go read through the thread. Woof.

[xavierj]

Yeah, looks like a massive free fall right now, sheesh. The turning point was Huggs completely dressing down the team after a WIN against Iowa State, they haven't even looked remotely the same since. I'll be sure to post some of the gems from tonight once I go read through the thread. Woof.

Probably time for Huggs to retire. Maybe they can take Travis off Xavier’s hands for MOR.

[Xville]

Yeah what a shame. Chris Mack hates leads against Florida State. Up 12 now down 13. I think 1 of his 6 freshman played tonight. I would be willing to bet he has at least three transfers this off season. It’s what Chris Mack does. If he is lucky an Uber driver might be available.

I cant stand mack as much as anyone but 2 freshmen are in the 9 man rotation. I'm sure the others saw the roster and realized they probably were going to sit most of their first year.

I do think it's funny how.much praise mack gets on espn telecasts. I dont see it, the guy still cant win when faced against equal talent.

[xubrew]

Louisville’s players suddenly heard that Mack was leaving for another job, and then their double digit lead just evaporated.

[GoMuskies]

Yeah, looks like a massive free fall right now, sheesh. The turning point was Huggs completely dressing down the team after a WIN against Iowa State, they haven't even looked remotely the same since. I'll be sure to post some of the gems from tonight once I go read through the thread. Woof.

I saw this in another forum, and I thought you'd enjoy it. Actually, all of us who lived through the Huggins years in Cincinnati can relate.

https://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/708/663/9663708.jpeg?width=600&fit=bounds

[GIMMFD]

I saw this in another forum, and I thought you'd enjoy it. Actually, all of us who lived through the Huggins years in Cincinnati can relate.

Hahah that was posted in the thread as well!! Some other decent gems you guys will enjoy:


I think that’s the problem...when things go south...Huggs never takes true ownership....always the players fault. He’s tried taking jabs or sending messages through the media with this team...has it worked!? No, maybe they need to know that when times get tough the coach will take the hits...not open up his players to them and actually join the crowd in blaming them.


"I don't think they've been in the gym as much as they used to be. I think a lot of it is my fault. I hear about saving their legs, saving their legs.I used to ignore that and I probably should now. We practiced for four hours at Cincinnati. Every day, and there were no days off. ...They never complained about not having any legs..... I just told them in there about Kobe (Bryant) and the work he did. I heard Larry Bird worked four hours a day. I know how much work Michael (Jordan) put in.... and those guys play 82 games.... So don't sit in there and tell me you aspire to be a pro. That's a joke."

This is a perfect example of taking blame while not taking any blame at all. He blames himself for because he should have made them work like Kobe Bryant? Every other coach in America seems to be able to pull it off without running guys into the ground. He appears to be so out of touch with reality.


Would you be motivated to play for this guy?

Like you .... I think that Huggs is seriously overestimating how much capital he has built up with the fans. He is much closer to exhausting the fans goodwill than he thinks.


Reminds me a lot of a certain Huggins disciple coaching at UCLA to be honest..

[paulxu]

I think you could just change the names and play Cronin bingo.

[xavierj]

Wake beating Duke doesn’t hurt

[AviatorX]

2021 5 star PG Khristian Lander, thought in IU circles to be a Louisville lean, commits to the Hoosiers out of nowhere last night and now lots of momentum behind a reclass to 2020. You hate to see it for Mack.

[Masterofreality]

2021 5 star PG Khristian Lander, thought in IU circles to be a Louisville lean, commits to the Hoosiers out of nowhere last night and now lots of momentum behind a reclass to 2020. You hate to see it for Mack.

Wonder if there's underground word in the recruit world about bad sanctions coming down on Louisewer?

[scoscox]

Our UConn win is starting to look better. probably won't get up to a Q1 win by season's end unless they win their conference tournament, but they're playing well right now

[drudy23]

Wonder if there's underground word in the recruit world about bad sanctions coming down on Louisewer?

Something has to be coming, doesn't it?

Can Louisville and Arizona really get through this unscathed? When will the hammer drop? It's almost been 2 years.

[bleedXblue]

Something has to be coming, doesn't it?

Can Louisville and Arizona really get through this unscathed? When will the hammer drop? It's almost been 2 years.

I thought UL had some sanctions already imposed? Stripped of the NC and lost some recruits........

[scoscox]

I thought UL had some sanctions already imposed? Stripped of the NC and lost some recruits........

that was for the strippers. they've yet to be punished for the adidas stuff

[GIMMFD]

Our UConn win is starting to look better. probably won't get up to a Q1 win by season's end unless they win their conference tournament, but they're playing well right now

I'm excited to have UCONN in the Big East because I do believe Hurley is pretty good at coaching, if they can get back to being competitive, they'll be a fun game each season.


Something has to be coming, doesn't it?

Can Louisville and Arizona really get through this unscathed? When will the hammer drop? It's almost been 2 years.

The NCAA is just going to end up punishing Missouri super hard for this.

[xubrew]

I think UCLA is getting in. They're 8-1 in their last nine games and have knocked off several tournament teams in that stretch and won at Arizona and at Colorado. If they win their last two, I think they're pretty safe. Hell, at the rate they're going they may win the Pac 12 Tournament.

[paulxu]

That would seem unlikely with their NET still in the 70's.
Then again, who knows.

[xubrew]

I don't think the NET really means anything outside of how the data is arranged on the page.

[paulxu]

You're probably right.
But if they let 71 UCLA in, with 9-4 Quad 3/4 record, and left 50 Michigan out, with a 10-0 Quad 3/4 record...there would be a little noise.

[GoMuskies]

I don't think Michigan is any danger.

[xubrew]

They took a Belmont team that was in the high 60s last year, and left out an NC State team that was in the low 30s. We later learned that not only was NC State not selected, but that they were barely even considered. The NET really doesn't decide anything.

I also agree that Michigan is extremely safe.

[paulxu]

I don't know about why they left out NC State, but Belmont's NET at the end of last year was 45. Not so unusual to be in. Under the 48 hypothetical cut line.

[X-band '01]

NC State's nonconference strength of schedule was way up in the 300s last year.

[xubrew]

I don't know about why they left out NC State, but Belmont's NET at the end of last year was 45. Not so unusual to be in. Under the 48 hypothetical cut line.

I stand corrected.

Strangely enough Xavier was 67th. My brain just keeps failing me today.

[AviatorX]

I am watching UD and their fans seem to have made custom signs and rolled out the red carpet for Dick Vitale to call a game there...? Is that a thing?

Also, Davidson appears to be in the A10. I mean I know I knew that, but weird to see it in action.

Dayton's actual team is awesome, gotta say.

[Lloyd Braun]

I am watching UD and their fans seem to have made custom signs and rolled out the red carpet for Dick Vitale to call a game there...? Is that a thing?

Also, Davidson appears to be in the A10. I mean I know I knew that, but weird to see it in action.

Dayton's actual team is awesome, gotta say.

Toppin is great, I have enjoyed watching him play and hope my Cavs take him. I hate that I’m jealous of UD for having such a talented player.

Anything can happen in the dance however.

[X Factor]

I am watching UD and their fans seem to have made custom signs and rolled out the red carpet for Dick Vitale to call a game there...? Is that a thing?

Also, Davidson appears to be in the A10. I mean I know I knew that, but weird to see it in action.

Dayton's actual team is awesome, gotta say.

They remind me of our team from a few years ago, but the difference is Dayton has a legit Top 10 NBA pick in Obi Toppin.

[scoscox]

They remind me of our team from a few years ago, but the difference is Dayton has a legit Top 10 NBA pick in Obi Toppin.

not quite the ancillary talent (no macura, sumner, gates, reynolds, etc.), but toppin makes up for a lot

[JTG]

When did this thread turn into UD Pride ?

[xubrew]

Yale had a late comeback to clinch a spot in the Ivy League Tournament, and Cornell will be eliminated if they lose just one more game or if Brown wins one more.

Wright State flinched first place in the HL with a win at NKU, but the tournament is at a predetermined site so that really doesn’t matter much.

Other than that, nothing happened tonight that’s really worth taking about other than the Dayton game.

[X-band '01]

Texas is also creeping closer towards the cut line with a win at Texas Tech.

That puts even more of an urgency for Xavier to win tomorrow at Georgetown. Teams like UCLA and Cincinnati are also knocking down at the door.

[xubrew]

An inadvertent whistle on what would have been a breakaway go ahead dunk for Florida State basically just cost them the game against Clemson.

[paulxu]

What a crazy year.
14-13 Clemson beats #6 Florida State.
15-13 TCU beats #2 Baylor.

[Xville]

What a crazy year.
14-13 Clemson beats #6 Florida State.
15-13 TCU beats #2 Baylor.

This is the kind of stuff that happens when there are no elite teams. College basketball is pretty medicore from a talent standpoint this year. Clemson has beaten duke, louisville and fsu on their homecourt this year

[Xavgrad08]

Wake beats Notre Dame. Oklahoma beats West Virginia. Huggins team has now lost 6 of the last 7.

[X-band '01]

Even funnier when North Carolina wins at Syracuse and still can't get out of the ACC cellar thanks to another Wake Forest win.

[Xavgrad08]

Bubble team Arkansas loses at Georgia. Evansville finished winless in the MVC. They become the first team to beat the number one team in the AP( Kentucky) and finish winless in Conference.

[X-band '01]

Anyone else thinking that UCLA may have just knocked Cincinnati out of a few projected NCAA Tournament fields now?

I can't believe I'm saying this, but Mick Cronin is running one helluva turnaround for the Bruins.

[Xavgrad08]

Anyone else thinking that UCLA may have just knocked Cincinnati out of a few projected NCAA Tournament fields now?

I can't believe I'm saying this, but Mick Cronin is running one helluva turnaround for the Bruins.
UCLA has talent and they should have never been that bad in the beginning of the year. I do think Cronin will be a big step up from Steve Alford. UCLA is playing well now and I think they would be in if the Tournament started today.
How about Miller getting tossed after two technicals in a pivotal game. I love Sean, but he lost his composure a couple times. The Arizona program has gotten stagnant , and Arizona fans do not seem happy.

[GoMuskies]

March Madness starts in 2 days. Here's a handy tool to follow all the madness.

https://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2020/03/01/march-madness-2020-conference-tournament-brackets-schedules/

[GIMMFD]

UCLA has talent and they should have never been that bad in the beginning of the year. I do think Cronin will be a big step up from Steve Alford. UCLA is playing well now and I think they would be in if the Tournament started today.
How about Miller getting tossed after two technicals in a pivotal game. I love Sean, but he lost his composure a couple times. The Arizona program has gotten stagnant , and Arizona fans do not seem happy.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Arizona letting Miller loose, a program like that not making the Final 4 yet with the talent that they have is definitely something their fans aren't going to enjoy too much, wonder who they'd go after, would expect Beard to get a phone call for sure.

[bleedXblue]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Arizona letting Miller loose, a program like that not making the Final 4 yet with the talent that they have is definitely something their fans aren't going to enjoy too much, wonder who they'd go after, would expect Beard to get a phone call for sure.

Yeah I think Miller gets one more year. If he doesn't produce a big year, he's out.

[xubrew]

Georgia Tech has withdrawn their appeal for the postseason ban. They would have been eligible since it was still under appeal, but ran the risk of being banned next year had they lost the appeal. So, essentially what they did was say "We're not getting in anyway, so screw it!"

[GoMuskies]

Gosh,imagine Josh Pastner having to sit out a postseason! That will be quite an adjustment for him!

[Masterofreality]

I'm sure this was already covered, but a damn shame that Clifton Community couldn't win at Houston yesterday.
Guess the fans in the Queen City will just have to live with cheering for one postseason team.

[Masterofreality]

UCLA has talent and they should have never been that bad in the beginning of the year. I do think Cronin will be a big step up from Steve Alford. UCLA is playing well now and I think they would be in if the Tournament started today.
How about Miller getting tossed after two technicals in a pivotal game. I love Sean, but he lost his composure a couple times. The Arizona program has gotten stagnant , and Arizona fans do not seem happy.

And it was laughable that "Expert" Gary Parrish actually wrote an article earlier in the year excusing Cronin's early losses on a "Substandard roster".

[GIMMFD]

And it was laughable that "Expert" Gary Parrish actually wrote an article earlier in the year excusing Cronin's early losses on a "Substandard roster".

A 4* PG (91st overall), 4* PF (61st overall), 4* PF (41st overall), 4* SG (55th overall), 4* SG (85th overall), and that's only the few I felt like looking up is a substandard roster?? Jeeze how out of touch do you have to be..

[muskiefan82]

I'm hearing UC's bubble popping...
Or maybe not...

[xavierj]

I'm hearing UC's bubble popping...
Or maybe not...

They basically have to win out and get to the AAC finals in my opinion. They have not beat anyone and have some really bad losses. Tonight would have sealed their fate. I think ESPN Bracketology likes to keep them right there because they are in a ESPN league. I don’t think they are where people think they are in regards to the tourney. If they are, making the tourney is really easy.

[X-band '01]

Texas getting closer and closer to solidifying their own bid with a win at Oklahoma tonight. That's why I'd be very concerned if I were fans of programs like UC and Utah State.

Oh, and Purdue continued their Jekyll and Hyde ways with a win at Iowa tonight.

[xubrew]

Chicago State will not play their last two regular season games at Seattle and Utah Valley due to fear of the Coronavirus. This is a little ridiculous. For starters, no one goes to Chicago State games. They play in empty, isolated, and probably mostly sterile venues, so being at one of their games is probably one of the safest places you could be during any sort of a pandemic.

I don't fear getting sick from the Coronavirus as much as I dread everyone freaking out over it. I don't like the idea of getting it and then instead of just fighting through it at home, being quarantined in a hospital with tons of other people who have all kinds of other contagious diseases. That's what kind of creeps me out. I'm no doctor or expert, but I can't help but feel that we go through something like this every few years and whenever it happens we let it disrupt our lives way more than we should, and we allow it to cause far more panic than what is necessary. I suppose that one day there could be a virus that decimates life as we know it, but right now I'm just sick of hearing the boy cry wolf every time there is a new disease. I don't think we are going to be seeing Randal Flagg any time soon.

[paulxu]

If a season is a lifetime, I feel like Methuselah this year.
Quite the roller coaster of a ride, and we've still got a couple turns left.

Hope we can make the tournament. Go Muskies!

[xudash]

If a season is a lifetime, I feel like Methuselah this year.
Quite the roller coaster of a ride, and we've still got a couple turns left.

Hope we can make the tournament. Go Muskies!

Post of the Year!

[GoMuskies]

Chicago State will not play their last two regular season games at Seattle and Utah Valley due to fear of the Coronavirus. This is a little ridiculous. For starters, no one goes to Chicago State games. They play in empty, isolated, and probably mostly sterile venues, so being at one of their games is probably one of the safest places you could be during any sort of a pandemic.

I don't fear getting sick from the Coronavirus as much as I dread everyone freaking out over it. I don't like the idea of getting it and then instead of just fighting through it at home, being quarantined in a hospital with tons of other people who have all kinds of other contagious diseases. That's what kind of creeps me out. I'm no doctor or expert, but I can't help but feel that we go through something like this every few years and whenever it happens we let it disrupt our lives way more than we should, and we allow it to cause far more panic than what is necessary. I suppose that one day there could be a virus that decimates life as we know it, but right now I'm just sick of hearing the boy cry wolf every time there is a new disease. I don't think we are going to be seeing Randal Flagg any time soon.

I'm pretty sure Chicago State just wants to end their season and save some money. Coronavirus was just a convenient excuse. As I'm sure YOU know (but most others are probably not aware without checking), they're 4-25, 0-14. Travel savings are going to be substantial to a school like Chicago State.

[paulxu]

Everybody needs a signature phrase.

Like..."get those puppies organized."

[GoMuskies]

Wyoming over Colorado State is QUITE the upset out in Vegas to get the party started in the MWC. Welcome to March Madness!

[xubrew]

Wyoming might be one of the worst teams in the history of the game that actually managed to win a conference tournament game.

[SM#24]

Tony Bennett and UVa played Miami and Jim Larranaga last night. Score was 46-44 UVa...sounds about right.

[GIMMFD]

Tony Bennett and UVa played Miami and Jim Larranaga last night. Score was 46-44 UVa...sounds about right.

Gotta say I do really like Tony Bennett though, he seems like a really classy guy with a great wealth of basketball knowledge. Sure, the offense isn't fun to watch, but they play an elite level of defense, and it's easy to root for them. I actually really enjoyed the NCAA Championship match-up last year, because Chris Beard seems like a pretty fun guy as well, as opposed to having Cal or someone like that in the finals.

[GoMuskies]

AFA is up 4 on San Diego State in the second half. I know most of us feel pretty safe with Xavier. But I'd rather have SDS go ahead and blow through the MWC Tournament. Just to be on the safe side!

[xubrew]

AFA is up 4 on San Diego State in the second half. I know most of us feel pretty safe with Xavier. But I'd rather have SDS go ahead and blow through the MWC Tournament. Just to be on the safe side!

They’ll have their hands full with UNLV. It’s a bad matchup for them. Both regular season games were close.

[GoMuskies]

They’ll have their hands full with UNLV. It’s a bad matchup for them. Both regular season games were close.

Boise is going to beat UNLV today.

[xubrew]

Boise is going to beat UNLV today.

Probably so. I didn’t realize Mitrou-Long wasn’t playing for UNLV. Even if Vegas wins today, they won’t tomorrow.

[GoMuskies]

New Mexico had a chance to clear out some space on the Bubble by finishing off Utah State tonight. However, the Aggies rallied down the stretch and were able to maintain their precarious perch on the bubble. A win Friday night and a close loss to SDSU, and Utah State could potentially still sneak in without winning the conference tournament.

[X-band '01]

Wichita and Stanford certainly didn't help their cause tonight.

Arizona State must really, really love playing in Dayton for some reason as well.

[GoMuskies]

Wyoming might win again. WTF?

[GoMuskies]

Well, the Cowboys did it. Into the semifinals. Crazy. Hell, they probably should be facing New Mexico, which would have been really crazy.

[xubrew]

The guy dressed as a cowboy in a barrel is winning the hearts of America!!

[xcellentx]

UNI got stomped by Drake. Not sure they have a good enough resume to get an at-large.

[Xville]

UNI got stomped by Drake. Not sure they have a good enough resume to get an at-large.

Probably out. These one bid conference teams get effed by this conference tournament auto bid stuff. Wish they would give it to the regular season champion..it just effs teams like uni who just had a stinker at the wrong time.

[GoMuskies]

Disagree. These conference tournaments are the best. And I would hate it if basketball was like football where 200 teams were basically eliminated with 2.5 months left in their season.

[X-band '01]

UNI got stomped by Drake. Not sure they have a good enough resume to get an at-large.

East Tennessee State was better equipped to take an early hit in their tournament, not Northern Iowa.

[xavierj]

East Tennessee State was better equipped to take an early hit in their tournament, not Northern Iowa.

Really? Why? UNI is in a better league and beat Colorado and South Carolina. I think they get in.

[xavierj]

East Tennessee State was better equipped to take an early hit in their tournament, not Northern Iowa.

ETSU’s best win might be Winthrop by 3. Wow they played a brutally dumb and easy non conference slate.

[X-band '01]

While the Valley has a slightly higher rating, the top of the conference also gave ETSU a few more Quad 1 opportunities thanks to UNC-Greensboro and Furman.

The Bucs's best win was at LSU, which is comparable. They also went 16-2 in conference and only Mercer was what I would consider a bad loss. UNI is going to be weighed down by losses at Southern Illinois, Illinois State and now Drake on a neutral floor.

[X-band '01]

Utah State, for example, better not mess around with Wyoming tonight. Even then, they need the auto bid to really feel safe on Selection Sunday.

[GIMMFD]

Disagree. These conference tournaments are the best. And I would hate it if basketball was like football where 200 teams were basically eliminated with 2.5 months left in their season.

Completely agree, the allure of college basketball is March, these conference tournaments bring drama, and cinderella stories from out of left field. At least with college basketball a stacked team isn't guaranteed a National Championship, while in football, you pretty much know who the realistic National Championship guys are going to be each year. Basketball is way more variable, and it's going to be especially fun this year with all of the chaos going on. Keeps things interesting.

[xubrew]

Probably out. These one bid conference teams get effed by this conference tournament auto bid stuff. Wish they would give it to the regular season champion..it just effs teams like uni who just had a stinker at the wrong time.

I agree to a degree, but overall I disagree.

Northern Iowa was probably one or two more wins away from not needing to win the conference tournament. Not losing to Illinois State probably would have been enough.

I totally understand (probably more than you realize) how tough it is when you're in a league that's usually a one bid league. You essentially have six weeks at the beginning of the year to try and schedule games that will impress the committee if you win them. They can be both hard to schedule and hard to win because you're typically playing them on unequal terms (road buy games, having to zigzag across the country on cheap flights and busses, having to cram four games into seven days to get the ones you want, etc). It's tough. It's arguably (and maybe not even arguably) a big circumstantial disadvantage. But, there is a path for every single team to make the NCAA Tournament without winning the conference tournament. If anything, I would say it makes the regular season more exciting because the OOC games matter a lot, and then the conference games matter a lot even if you've already clinched first place. If you just took the first place teams, then suddenly the OOC games mean way less, and you can kind of put it on auto pilot if you happen to clinch first place with several games to go.

[GoMuskies]

The Fighting Kelseys got a break in the Big South Tournament. #5 seed Hampton took out #2 Radford, so Winthrop's path to the championship and autobid is much simpler. They'll be big faves.

[Masterofreality]

The Missouri Valley is utter chaos. And I am so sad for my Loyola Daughter & her fam. They went to St. Louis & witnessed Loyola blow a 17 point second half lead because they couldn’t make free throws then Moser has brain lock and doesn’t foul with a foul to give before 1-1 with 6 seconds to go and Valpo wins. This after Northern Iowa got boatraced earlier in the day.
I never understand why coaches don’t use their fouls when they have the advantage. NEVER understand it. You might dodge a bullet, but it’s still stupid.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Teams Outside BE we want to lose today who are on bubble:

Indiana (at home vs Wisconsin)
Rutgers and Purdue both on bubble Purdue out according to lunardi Rutgers in. Not sure here.
UCLA (at USC)
TEXAS (at home against OK St)
South Carolina (at Vandy)
Utah State (plating SD state in tourney finals)
AZ State (at home against Washington st)
UC (at home against Temple)
Stanford (at Oregon)

[X-band '01]

Cheer for Rutgers. This would likely cement them in. Purdue would fall to one game over .500 overall with a loss here.

[GIMMFD]

WVU sports and beating a #4 ranked Baylor team go together like PB&J.

[X-band '01]

That will all but lock Kansas in as the overall #1 seed now. If Baylor loses early in the Big 12 Tournament and Gonzaga/SDSU both win out, we might see Baylor fall to #4 overall (aka the last #1 seed) and get shipped out East whereas either Gonzaga/SDSU slides into the South Region now.

[GoMuskies]

That will all but lock Kansas in as the overall #1 seed now. If Baylor loses early in the Big 12 Tournament and Gonzaga/SDSU both win out, we might see Baylor fall to #4 overall (aka the last #1 seed) and get shipped out East whereas either Gonzaga/SDSU slides into the South Region now.

I think Dayton is going to slide into that 4th #1, and we'll have 3 non-power conference #1s.

[Xavgrad08]

Texas gets beat by 20 + to Oklahoma State at home. UCLA loses to USC. IU loses to Wisconsin. Archie Miller is not a fan of bracketologists , or he he is a big fan of Sesame Street. https://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2020/03/07/archie-miller-bracketology/amp/

[GoMuskies]

I think IU is going to Dayton.

[X-band '01]

If they lose their B1G Tournament opener to Nebraska, IU's going to be sweating bullets. They're 99% in, but they can't leave anything to chance.

[KabeX]

I think Dayton is going to slide into that 4th #1, and we'll have 3 non-power conference #1s.

I agree especially with SDSU going down today. Let's hope VD meets the same end we did as a #1.

[AviatorX]

I think IU is going to Dayton.

I mean, X's resume doesn't stack up super favorably...although Archie's return is another angle for the conspiracy theorists.

IU still hasn't figured out that totally mailing in the guarantee games (multiple 275+ KP games) is never smart.

[GoMuskies]

I mean, IU just isn't very good. No need for conspiracy theories.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Well if we do make the PIG be prepared for this BS again. I guess when your white trash you have nothing better to spend your social security money on.

Exactly - if they are lucky enough to get in and play in the play in game I’ll surely be there to cheer loudly against them if that’s ok. Some said X was a lock a couple weeks ago when discussing the topic. Guess they were wrong. Guess all isn’t automatically rosey for BE teams and an A10 team can get a 1 seed and be capable of winning the whole thing.