2019-2020 College Basketball Season Thread

[muskiefan82]

sorry, couldn't help myself :loco:

Wait...hmm......well....yeah, I don't care. :lol:

[UCGRAD4X]

Wait...hmm......well....yeah, I don't care. :lol:

Well...NUTS started it.:tonguewag:

[muskiefan82]

Well...NUTS started it.:tonguewag:

I blame DOOK. Duck Fuke!!

[GIMMFD]

The most egregious error here is all you guys misspelling Dook.

Stone Cold Steve Austin is a helluva team, remember them beating WVU in the tournament a couple years back, back then they played with a press as well, and it's a recipe for disaster for teams that aren't very experienced. Also a cool fact is that the guy that had the game winning layup is from the Bahamas, and the Go Fund Me for his family for hurricane relief has blown up since last night, cool stuff to see.

Also a helluva slate of games today, Seton Hall vs Oregon, Dayton gets a chance to prove themselves against Kansas, Wichita State vs WVU, etc. Some fun match-ups, I think I'm with you on that this is a really fun week of college basketball.

[paulxu]

Coaching style differences;

Coach K: "We got beat. That's on me."

Cronin: "We have young, inexperienced players. We got beat off the dribble seemingly every possession." "We don't have enough fortitude and they tested it tonight because they had only seven turnovers."

[GIMMFD]

Coaching style differences;

Coach K: "We got beat. That's on me."

Cronin: "We have young, inexperienced players. We got beat off the dribble seemingly every possession." "We don't have enough fortitude and they tested it tonight because they had only seven turnovers."

I don't see how anybody would want to play for Mick Cronin, just comes off as a pompous douche every time he speaks.

[drudy23]

How did all of these dudes end up at UD? They want from OK to real good in the blink of an eye.

[Xavgrad08]

How did all of these dudes end up at UD? They want from OK to real good in the blink of an eye.

Grant is a solid recruiter. He got good talent at VCU. Grant’s problem is he was not a good tactician.

[paulxu]

Dayton and Kansas are shooting 48 and 50% on 3's.

We have GOT to find some shooters to compete this year.

[drudy23]

It pains me to say that they are really damn good. Top 15 good.

[drudy23]

Dayton and Kansas are shooting 48 and 50% on 3's.

We have GOT to find some shooters to compete this year.

Every guy on Dayton's roster can shoot. They're all knocking them down.

I'm pretty sure our non-shooters aren't going to turn into shooters this year.

[X Factor]

It's ridiculous. Dayton looks like a legit Top 10 team. They're deep, athletic, and have shooters for days. I'm gonna puke.

[GIMMFD]

It's ridiculous. Dayton looks like a legit Top 10 team. They're deep, athletic, and have shooters for days. I'm gonna puke.

Not to mention Toppin is the real deal, he's an absolute monster of a guy, can take you outside, work an inside game, he's definitely going to be a lottery pick in my opinion. Gross.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Another case of VD peaking early and the real teams not yet ready. VD is what we thought they were and that’s a nice mid-major with a cute fan base that should be prepared for a long NIT run. Great showing for sure but def an anomaly. BTW F**K VD.

[xudash]

Another case of VD peaking early and the real teams not yet ready. VD is what we thought they were and that’s a nice mid-major with a cute fan base that should be prepared for a long NIT run. Great showing for sure but def an anomaly. BTW F**K VD.

THIS!

Little Brother will find a way to lose stupidly, and often enough.

[X-band '01]

It pains me to say that they are really damn good. Top 15 good.


It's ridiculous. Dayton looks like a legit Top 10 team. They're deep, athletic, and have shooters for days. I'm gonna puke.


Not to mention Toppin is the real deal, he's an absolute monster of a guy, can take you outside, work an inside game, he's definitely going to be a lottery pick in my opinion. Gross.


Another case of VD peaking early and the real teams not yet ready. VD is what we thought they were and that’s a nice mid-major with a cute fan base that should be prepared for a long NIT run. Great showing for sure but def an anomaly. BTW F**K VD.


THIS!

Little Brother will find a way to lose stupidly, and often enough.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Deg7VrpHbM

[xubrew]

Maine lost to Virginia 46-26 yesterday. Maine actually covered the spread. When was the last time a team scored less than 30pts, but still covered the spread?

[X-man]

Maine lost to Virginia 46-26 yesterday. Maine actually covered the spread. When was the last time a team scored less than 30pts, but still covered the spread?

Must have been a sight for sore eyes :laugh: . Happy Thanksgiving, everyone.

[X-band '01]

Must have been a sight for sore eyes :laugh: . Happy Thanksgiving, everyone.

It gets better - Purdue (#352 KenPom Tempo) and Virginia (#353 KenPom Tempo) face off in the ACC-B1G Challenge next week.

[Muskie]

Providence just lost out in California.


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[scoscox]

Fffffffffuck providence

[Juice]

Fffffffffuck providence

Let's talk about how overrated Ed Cooley is...

[X-band '01]

I see your Ed Cooley and raise you a Greg McDermott. We were disappointed over losing to San Diego State last year, but the Aztecs smoked Creighton last night.

[Xville]

I said it last year and I'll say it again this year...there are some teams in our league that need better coaches:

Wojo
McDermott
Cooley

I dont know about providence but I do know that with the fan support, facilities etc that Marquette and Creighton can do better.

[UCGRAD4X]

I said it last year and I'll say it again this year...there are some teams in our league that need better coaches:

Wojo
McDermott
Cooley



So, how long of a string does the new kid on the block get before they begin to rate him one way or another?

Big cudos for recruiting to this point - but...is he still working with (he whose name shall not be uttered) recruits?

Next year, if all, if not three of the four, core four leave...it's his baby.

[Xville]

So, how long of a string does the new kid on the block get before they begin to rate him one way or another?

Big cudos for recruiting to this point - but...is he still working with (he whose name shall not be uttered) recruits?

Next year, if all, if not three of the four, core four leave...it's his baby.

Think you get 3 years, but I have 100% faith in Steele. Recruiting is getting there, and defense is 100 times better than last year. Still need shooters but I believe Steele recognized that last year having recruited kyky, and the 2020 class. Team may take a step back next year because they are going to be insanely young, but think after that, the program is really going to stabilize and final fours are going to be in x's future. Heck, if shooting improves, final four could happen this year.

[GIMMFD]

Think you get 3 years, but I have 100% faith in Steele. Recruiting is getting there, and defense is 100 times better than last year. Still need shooters but I believe Steele recognized that last year having recruited kyky, and the 2020 class. Team may take a step back next year because they are going to be insanely young, but think after that, the program is really going to stabilize and final fours are going to be in x's future. Heck, if shooting improves, final four could happen this year.

Yup, with you on that, Steele is on his way to something great. The recruiting has been impressive, and the defense has been much much better than in years past. I do wish we had shooters, but Kyky in this class, Wilcher in the next, he's working on it, I think we'll take a step back as well next year, but I'm also looking forward into seeing if we'll be adding some grad transfers to add experience, and some depth. We're gonna be young, but damn the future looks so bright.

[MADXSTER]

Yup, with you on that, Steele is on his way to something great. The recruiting has been impressive, and the defense has been much much better than in years past. I do wish we had shooters, but Kyky in this class, Wilcher in the next, he's working on it, I think we'll take a step back as well next year, but I'm also looking forward into seeing if we'll be adding some grad transfers to add experience, and some depth. We're gonna be young, but damn the future looks so bright.

Don't forget top 50 player Odom

[X-band '01]

If Providence can't beat Long Beach or Charleston, how are they going to beat either Central Florida or Pepperdine?

Meanwhile, Wake will at least have a shot at winning the Wooden Legacy (although that's a longshot given that they'd likely face Arizona in the final).

[GIMMFD]

Don't forget top 50 player Odom

I didn't include him because he's not going to be a knock down shooter, but yeah he's going to be special by all means. He can get to the rim at will, and really is going to bring an aggressive scoring dimension. I'm excited for him as well.

[Xavgrad08]

The fighting Kelsey’s are playing Duke tonight. Louisville beat WKU to advance to 7-0. Louisville plays Michigan this week. That will be the best team they have played so far by a lot.

[xubrew]

DePaul is now 8-0 with three wins away from home.

Duquesne is also undefeated.

I told you that global warming was real!!!!

[UCGRAD4X]

DePaul is now 8-0 with three wins away from home.

Duquesne is also undefeated.

I told you that global warming was real!!!!

It may be warming here, but it seems hell is getting much colder.

[X-band '01]

DePaul is now 8-0 with three wins away from home.

Duquesne is also undefeated.

I told you that global warming was real!!!!

If global warming is real, we'll have to replace about half the Big East in 100 years.

[GIMMFD]

The fighting Kelsey’s are playing Duke tonight. Louisville beat WKU to advance to 7-0. Louisville plays Michigan this week. That will be the best team they have played so far by a lot.

Michigan really rolled through a very solid Battle 4 Atlantis field, I was incredibly impressed, Juwan Howard looks like he knows what he's doing, and they really love playing for him. Wonder what Michigan ends up being ranked, I wouldn't be surprised to see Top 5, which is crazy to me, unranked to top 5. Sheesh. A lot of good match-ups in the ACC/Big 10 challenge.

[xubrew]

Michigan really rolled through a very solid Battle 4 Atlantis field, I was incredibly impressed, Juwan Howard looks like he knows what he's doing, and they really love playing for him. Wonder what Michigan ends up being ranked, I wouldn't be surprised to see Top 5, which is crazy to me, unranked to top 5. Sheesh. A lot of good match-ups in the ACC/Big 10 challenge.

Phil Martelli is now at Michigan. I think that was a solid hire for an associate head coach.

[GoMuskies]

How did I miss the most important college basketball game of the season a few weeks back? Kentucky Wesleyan vs. Samford. The game featured two former St. Xavier Tiger legends as head coaches: Scott Padgett and Drew Cooper. I actually played in two very intense 7th/8th grade games in which these two were also on the floor, so I know how far back this legendary rivalry goes!

Seriously, though, Padgett is in his 6th season at Samford, and is 4-5 after going 74-92 in his first five seasons. I think Scott's coaching career is about to come to an end.

[xubrew]

Samford should be better than what they are. They've got four starters back and weren't bad last year. Somehow they're worse this year and not better.

Samford is also a different kind of place. I think Padgett has until at least whenever it is that his contract runs out. They like him there, even if he's only 74-92.

[xubrew]

And after that wonderful binge of exempt tournaments, we've got....practically nothing for the next couple weeks. :/

[paulxu]

Phil Martelli is now at Michigan. I think that was a solid hire for an associate head coach.

You could do worse as a first year coach than hiring someone with that amount of experience to help you navigate.

[xubrew]

The AP Poll is out. Michigan went from being unranked to being ranked #4th. I'm not sure what the biggest jump in the history of the polls is, but that's got to be up there. They received just two votes in the initial preseason poll.

[GoMuskies]

The AP Poll is out. Michigan went from being unranked to being ranked #4th. I'm not sure what the biggest jump in the history of the polls is, but that's got to be up there. They received just two votes in the initial preseason poll.

Impressive. I was thinking maybe Ball State after their Maui run in 2001, but it only got them up to #16 (and they ended up not making the NCAA Tournament).

[GoMuskies]

And after that wonderful binge of exempt tournaments, we've got....practically nothing for the next couple weeks. :/

#1 vs. #4 tomorrow night. Replay of a national championship game that actually never happened.

[xubrew]

#1 vs. #4 tomorrow night. Replay of a national championship game that actually never happened.

It's a shame that championship game never happened because it was pretty good from what I remember.

[xubrew]

If Michigan beats Louisville tonight, it would be their third win against a top ten team away from home in less than a week. I cannot recall a team ever doing that before.

[GoMuskies]

Went looking for some under the radar teams that might be worth paying attention to. Still developing given the competition they've played, but I'll keep watching:

Liberty - Jerry Fallwell U. is 10-0. @Vandy and @LSU loom
Delaware - Blue Hens are 9-0. They host Villanova next week.
Northern Iowa - 8-1 with the only loss to a really good WV team, and they definitely should have won. @Colorado this week.
San Diego State - Are the 8-0 Aztecs back? They still host Utah but should really enter the MWC season undefeated.
East Tennessee State - 7-1 with the only loss by 12 at Allen Fieldhouse. Will visit LSU later this month.
SF Austin - 7-1 and, well, you know. @Alabama later this week.
Santa Clara - Forget SMC and Gonzaga. SC is 8-1 with its only loss at Stanford. Gets @Nevada and Cal this week.

[xubrew]

Good list!

I still think that when New Mexico State gets all their players healthy, which so far as I know is supposed to be before conference play, that they will be seriously good. Not just under the radar good, but top 40 good. The problem is that they've already lost too many games, and I don't think the selection committee will care that they were without so many key players early on, so one of their wins better be that last WAC Tournament game. But still, this is a team that had Auburn beat last year, and had they just held on to win I think they would have won the next game and gone to the Sweet Sixteen. Everybody is back, but a lot of them are injured. If they end up in the NCAAs as a #13 or #14 seed, then I feel bad for whoever it is that has to play them in that first game.

[X-band '01]

Went looking for some under the radar teams that might be worth paying attention to. Still developing given the competition they've played, but I'll keep watching:

Liberty - Jerry Fallwell U. is 10-0. @Vandy and @LSU loom
Delaware - Blue Hens are 9-0. They host Villanova next week.
Northern Iowa - 8-1 with the only loss to a really good WV team, and they definitely should have won. @Colorado this week.
San Diego State - Are the 8-0 Aztecs back? They still host Utah but should really enter the MWC season undefeated.
East Tennessee State - 7-1 with the only loss by 12 at Allen Fieldhouse. Will visit LSU later this month.
SF Austin - 7-1 and, well, you know. @Alabama later this week.
Santa Clara - Forget SMC and Gonzaga. SC is 8-1 with its only loss at Stanford. Gets @Nevada and Cal this week.

No love for the Bowling Green State University Falcons?

[xubrew]

I think my eyes are bleeding after watching the first half of the Louisville v Michigan game.

[Xville]

I think my eyes are bleeding after watching the first half of the Louisville v Michigan game.

Michigan doesnt look good tonight, but it's weird seeing a mack coached team play defense.

[X-band '01]

I think my eyes are bleeding after watching the first half of the Louisville v Michigan game.

Because of the game or the court?

[noteggs]

Michigan doesnt look good tonight, but it's weird seeing a mack coached team play defense.

Get your point but think Michigan is gassed from last week. Such a quick turn around.

[bleedXblue]

Because of the game or the court?

The court is hideous with the ridiculous dunking bird

[GoMuskies]

I'm a big fan of the old school dunking Cardinal logo. However, they definitely went overboard on size there.

[drudy23]

And what bird dunks left-handed?

[Xavgrad08]

Louisville looked good defensively, but Michigan looked sluggish. Really weird seeing Martelli on the Michigan sideline as an assistant.

[Lloyd Braun]

Charleston Southern beat Mizzou tonight. Which is.... not ideal.

[paulxu]

And what bird dunks left-handed?

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/48/02/11/4802117f032bb60b299abc297b04c529.jpg

[GoMuskies]

Charleston Southern beat Mizzou tonight. Which is.... not ideal.

Were some people still operating under the delusion that Mizzou doesn't suck?

Missouri State got to 4-5 with a 2 point home win over Murray State. And UC got a nice win over Vermont, so they're ready for their whoopin' now.

[xubrew]

There are good teams that are good by top 25 standards. After that it is all relative. There are teams that are good by NCAA Tournament standards, by mid-major standards, by low major standards, etc.

Charleston Southern, no matter what the relative standard, is not good. Mizzou must be total dogshit.

[GIMMFD]

There are good teams that are good by top 25 standards. After that it is all relative. There are teams that are good by NCAA Tournament standards, by mid-major standards, by low major standards, etc.

Charleston Southern, no matter what the relative standard, is not good. Mizzou must be total dogshit.

Mizzou is weird as in you'd expect them to be competent, they have some okay players, and some guys with some scoring ability, but then they go out and do stuff like lose to Charleston Southern, and you're not really sure wtf you were watching. Again so confused how we lost to them last year, and how it took OT this year.. it's a case study in "what the hell is going on??"

[xubrew]

Kentucky and Michigan have agreed to a three game series, which begins in London next year. It's a souped up H-H-N series, with the N being in London.

[GoMuskies]

Kentucky and Michigan have agreed to a three game series, which begins in London next year. It's a souped up H-H-N series, with the N being in London.

London, KY?

[xubrew]

London, KY?

I know that this is not the case, but PLEASE LET IT BE THE CASE ANYWAY!!!

[xudash]

Mizzou is weird as in you'd expect them to be competent, they have some okay players, and some guys with some scoring ability, but then they go out and do stuff like lose to Charleston Southern, and you're not really sure wtf you were watching. Again so confused how we lost to them last year, and how it took OT this year.. it's a case study in "what the hell is going on??"

I wonder if it has something to do with the "culture" within the program. The HC owns that. The overriding idea of assembling a group of kids who play hard and want to win, even in the face of player deficiencies (e.g. inability to be effective from behind the arc).

Hey, what do you know. In no way do we have that problem at Xavier. We have plenty to work on, but we don't have a soft-sand foundation from which to work on all of it. Long live Travis Steele.

[GIMMFD]

I wonder if it has something to do with the "culture" within the program. The HC owns that. The overriding idea of assembling a group of kids who play hard and want to win, even in the face of player deficiencies (e.g. inability to be effective from behind the arc).

Hey, what do you know. In no way do we have that problem at Xavier. We have plenty to work on, but we don't have a soft-sand foundation from which to work on all of it. Long live Travis Steele.

Definitely could be a thing, you hear the word "culture" a lot, and many people write it off as cliche, I personally don't think it is. A perfect example is the New England Patriots, everybody on that roster buys in to "The Patriot Way," egos are held in check, and they're zoned into winning. Contrast that with the Cleveland Browns, who on paper have some pretty decent talent, but commit stupid penalties, etc. I definitely think culture plays into the mindset of a team, and you have to be just as mentally sound to be successful at a higher level.

I also agree that Coach Steele has that competitive, winning mindset. There's still some time for judgement to pass on that, but being around a program like ours instills the values of winning. Again, people may find it cliche, but a winning history and tradition are important. When you're around guys who are winners, such as Tu Holloway, you're ready to go to war for that guy.

[XU 23]

DePaul wins again and moves to 9-0. Are they for real?

[GoMuskies]

Given who they've beaten and where they've beaten them, if they're not for real then they've done an AMAZING job of faking it.

[X-band '01]

London, KY?


I know that this is not the case, but PLEASE LET IT BE THE CASE ANYWAY!!!

I move for a neutral site in London, Ohio instead.

[paulxu]

How did UNC manage to lose by 25 on their home court?

[noteggs]

How did UNC manage to lose by 25 on their home court?

Thought same. Boy did UNC get their asses handed to them by OSU.

[Xville]

Unc is a one trick pony this year. Still good but more like top 25 good, not top 10.

I have seen ohio state obliterate nova and unc now, and though I know they arent supposed to mean much but supposedly kicked Mack's ass in a scrimmage. Think they are a championship contender.

Basically every team I cant stand is good this year...louisville, ohio state, dayton...eff me

[xubrew]

Went looking for some under the radar teams that might be worth paying attention to. Still developing given the competition they've played, but I'll keep watching:

Liberty - Jerry Fallwell U. is 10-0. @Vandy and @LSU loom
Delaware - Blue Hens are 9-0. They host Villanova next week.
Northern Iowa - 8-1 with the only loss to a really good WV team, and they definitely should have won. @Colorado this week.
San Diego State - Are the 8-0 Aztecs back? They still host Utah but should really enter the MWC season undefeated.
East Tennessee State - 7-1 with the only loss by 12 at Allen Fieldhouse. Will visit LSU later this month.
SF Austin - 7-1 and, well, you know. @Alabama later this week.
Santa Clara - Forget SMC and Gonzaga. SC is 8-1 with its only loss at Stanford. Gets @Nevada and Cal this week.

Got another one for you that's right up the road.

Wright State has two losses by a total of three points, and they kind of blew it in both of those games. They just beat Western KY at home, which was probably their toughest remaining opponent. I don't think they'll win out because the odds of not slipping up at least once are almost zero, but it wouldn't shock me if they finished the regular season with five losses or fewer. Now the question is would that be enough to land them inside the bubble or would they still need to win the HL Tournament? and does winning 25+ games against sub NIT teams even demonstrate that you belong in the NCAAs without the auto-bid? But if you're looking for good under the radar teams, Wright State is probably one of them. Scott Nagy is a really good coach. He did really well at South Dakota State before he came to Wright State. He did so well that you wonder why he would want to make a lateral move like that when he was already at a place that seemed to be good enough to occasionally compete for an at-large bid.

[GoMuskies]

From my list, Santa Clara lost by 30 @ Nevada, so they're off my list. I guess Wright State can have their spot.

[xubrew]

Got another one for you that's right up the road.

Wright State has two losses by a total of three points, and they kind of blew it in both of those games. They just beat Western KY at home, which was probably their toughest remaining opponent. I don't think they'll win out because the odds of not slipping up at least once are almost zero, but it wouldn't shock me if they finished the regular season with five losses or fewer. Now the question is would that be enough to land them inside the bubble or would they still need to win the HL Tournament? and does winning 25+ games against sub NIT teams even demonstrate that you belong in the NCAAs without the auto-bid? But if you're looking for good under the radar teams, Wright State is probably one of them. Scott Nagy is a really good coach. He did really well at South Dakota State before he came to Wright State. He did so well that you wonder why he would want to make a lateral move like that when he was already at a place that seemed to be good enough to occasionally compete for an at-large bid.

Well, never mind

[Xville]

Were some people still operating under the delusion that Mizzou doesn't suck?

Missouri State got to 4-5 with a 2 point home win over Murray State. And UC got a nice win over Vermont, so they're ready for their whoopin' now.

Missouri won at temple tonight..not a great team, but decent. College basketball is weird this year.

[Xville]

If results hold, big east will go 7-0 today against some quality competition.

[Xavgrad08]

Butler looked good in the win against Florida.

[bobbiemcgee]

If results hold, big east will go 7-0 today against some quality competition.

7-0 and 4-0 in the B12 challenge.

[GoMuskies]

Dayton and St. Mary's on a neutral court today. That's a great game. Dayton favored by 3. 7-1 Tulane vs. 7-1 SLU in the opener out there should also be good. SLU favored by 5.

I'll be watching Wichita State at Oklahoma State. Cowboys favored by 4.

[GIMMFD]

7-0 and 4-0 in the B12 challenge.

Big East is going to be a blood-bath this year, a lot of teams have potential to be pretty damn good. Butler looks sneakingly strong, and with Marquette and Seton Hall, Howard and Powell can win a game on their own. So happy to be in this conference.

[xubrew]

I just realized that Texas v Texas A&M was on ABC. I don’t think ABC has shown college basketball in like ten years. Apparently they will have several games this year.

[X-band '01]

College hoops took a backseat in recent years to the NBA on Sundays, but what's happened recently is that ABC now has their NBA games on Saturday night. It's still an ESPN production, but it's good to get it back on ABC after their hiatus.

Next weekend will also see CBS begin their college hoops broadcasts for the season as well.

[Xavgrad08]

Dayton looking good vs St. Mary’s. Dayton has some good shooters to go along with Toppin. Will be interesting to see how far they go this year.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Dayton is def a good team this year. They will dance for sure and they have sweet 16 talent. However VD will not play one true road game until conference play. St Mary’s was in Phoenix and they play Colorodo in Chicago. That’s clever scheduling. The game vs St Mary’s looked like a closed gym. I wonder how they will react when they play a true road game.

[GIMMFD]

Dayton looking good vs St. Mary’s. Dayton has some good shooters to go along with Toppin. Will be interesting to see how far they go this year.


Dayton is def a good team this year. They will dance for sure and they have sweet 16 talent. However VD will not play one true road game until conference play. St Mary’s was in Phoenix and they play Colorodo in Chicago. That’s clever scheduling. The game vs St Mary’s looked like a closed gym. I wonder how they will react when they play a true road game.

Shhh stop it guys, Dad's gonna yell at us again for lifting little brother up!!

[sirthought]

Big East is going to be a blood-bath this year, a lot of teams have potential to be pretty damn good. Butler looks sneakingly strong, and with Marquette and Seton Hall, Howard and Powell can win a game on their own. So happy to be in this conference.

Butler is playing the strongest, most balanced basketball in the conference right now, per BartTorvik.com
http://barttorvik.com/conf.php?conf=BE

[OTRMUSKIE]

Here is is the poster for the classic that dayton played in today.
EXPLOSIVE!!!!

The Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame is bringing the Jerry Colangelo Classic to downtown Phoenix on Sunday, December 8! This college basketball triple header features an explosive lineup!

Tip off times:

11:30am - Tulane vs. St. Louis

2:00pm - Saint Mary's vs. University of Dayton

4:30pm - GCU vs. Liberty

[xubrew]

Dayton is a lot better than Xavier right now. Dayton is a lot better than a lot of teams right now. They may have just played in a triple header that no one in Phoenix outside of the GCU fans really cared about, but they totally ran over a pretty solid SMC team. And, that's just it. Being able to get focused for a big opponent in a big event like Maui is a lot easier than getting focused for a good team in an event almost no one knows about. That's what they traditionally are so bad at doing, yet they blasted Saint Mary's yesterday.

[GoMuskies]

Speaking of, nice "road" win for Liberty in Phoenix over GCU. 11-0 for the Flames.

[bleedXblue]

Dayton is a lot better than Xavier right now. Dayton is a lot better than a lot of teams right now. They may have just played in a triple header that no one in Phoenix outside of the GCU fans really cared about, but they totally ran over a pretty solid SMC team. And, that's just it. Being able to get focused for a big opponent in a big event like Maui is a lot easier than getting focused for a good team in an event almost no one knows about. That's what they traditionally are so bad at doing, yet they blasted Saint Mary's yesterday.

I watched that game. SMC being solid....I don't now about that. Yes, Dayton looks very good. Especially when the shots are falling. They look to have multiple shooters all over the floor. They will go through a rough patch......and we will see if they can peak in March.

[xubrew]

Speaking of, nice "road" win for Liberty in Phoenix over GCU. 11-0 for the Flames.

Their schedule has been a pastry cart, but I think Liberty is legit. They've got a few tests coming up, but they're good enough to win those games.

A few years ago Liberty decided to dump a ton of money into athletics. I must say, they're getting noticeably better, and not just in basketball.

[bobbiemcgee]

I watched that game. SMC being solid....I don't now about that. Yes, Dayton looks very good. Especially when the shots are falling. They look to have multiple shooters all over the floor. They will go through a rough patch......and we will see if they can peak in March.

Imagine if they were able to keep McKinley Wright. Colorado should be a good game.

[xubrew]

Is Duquesne a story?? Maybe they are and maybe they aren't, but I must say that I'm intrigued.

I like Keith Dambrot, and I thought Duquesne was stupid for not making him their first choice. If you remember that whole charade, he was actually their fourth choice. I don't remember who the others were, but he was clearly better than all three of them.

They won 19 games last year (although they did kind of crumble down the stretch), and they're unbeaten so far this season. I know their schedule is a pastry cart, but we're talking about Duquesne. For the longest time they couldn't even beat teams of that caliber, much less all of them. That, and when a program has no culture or history of winning whatsoever, sometimes it just feels good to get people used to winning, even if it's against weak teams.

Now, I don't think they're NCAA Tournament good, but they are TONS better than what they were three years ago, and they've been improving at a consistent rate. I think he's turning them around. I really do. As bizarre as it may seem, we may see Duquesne in the NCAA Tournament somewhat frequently in the very near future.

They also don't have a home court this year because their arena is being renovated, so they're playing at three or four different places, including a div3 school, which is yet another challenge.

[xubrew]

Speaking of, nice "road" win for Liberty in Phoenix over GCU. 11-0 for the Flames.


Their schedule has been a pastry cart, but I think Liberty is legit. They've got a few tests coming up, but they're good enough to win those games.

A few years ago Liberty decided to dump a ton of money into athletics. I must say, they're getting noticeably better, and not just in basketball.

A football note, but Liberty has just signed Hugh Freeze to a five year extension, and although the exact details aren't public because...well...it's Liberty, they are indicating that he is now the highest paid Group of 5 head coach. Liberty is spending that money.

[paulxu]

Maybe a better investment than Cabana Boy.

[xubrew]

Chris Beard might be the best coach in college basketball.

[noteggs]

Louisville first loss...

Shame.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Louisville first loss...

Shame.

Hate to see it...

[xubrew]

Another night without many games. This is ridiculous! I know it's exam week. What I don't get is what the hell exams have to do with college basketball! Why do they have to take these exams? It makes an entire week of the season more boring than it should be! Ask any college student! They'd rather be watching basketball than studying for exams! The NCAA needs to fix this!! #Priorities

[Masterofreality]

Is Duquesne a story?? Maybe they are and maybe they aren't, but I must say that I'm intrigued.

I like Keith Dambrot, and I thought Duquesne was stupid for not making him their first choice. If you remember that whole charade, he was actually their fourth choice. I don't remember who the others were, but he was clearly better than all three of them.

They won 19 games last year (although they did kind of crumble down the stretch), and they're unbeaten so far this season. I know their schedule is a pastry cart, but we're talking about Duquesne. For the longest time they couldn't even beat teams of that caliber, much less all of them. That, and when a program has no culture or history of winning whatsoever, sometimes it just feels good to get people used to winning, even if it's against weak teams.

Now, I don't think they're NCAA Tournament good, but they are TONS better than what they were three years ago, and they've been improving at a consistent rate. I think he's turning them around. I really do. As bizarre as it may seem, we may see Duquesne in the NCAA Tournament somewhat frequently in the very near future.

They also don't have a home court this year because their arena is being renovated, so they're playing at three or four different places, including a div3 school, which is yet another challenge.

Dambrot is a damn, DAMN good coach. He got a bad rap a few years ago from alleged "player abuse" which was nothing like Jim Crews or Bob Knight put their players through. He's always been highly regarded in NE Ohio and the High School Coaches love him. He's gonna steal all the good recruits from Akron and parts of Cleveland from Akron, Kent State and Cleveland State. He'll make Duquesne a force. Just wait...

[xubrew]

Some kid scored 100pts in an NAIA game yesterday....

https://www.si.com/college/2019/12/11/wayland-baptist-jj-culver-scores-100-points?utm_medium=social&xid=socialflow_twitter_si&utm_campaign=si-ncaabb&utm_source=twitter.com

[X-band '01]

Dambrot is a damn, DAMN good coach. He got a bad rap a few years ago from alleged "player abuse" which was nothing like Jim Crews or Bob Knight put their players through. He's always been highly regarded in NE Ohio and the High School Coaches love him. He's gonna steal all the good recruits from Akron and parts of Cleveland from Akron, Kent State and Cleveland State. He'll make Duquesne a force. Just wait...

For as consistently as he won at Akron, I thought he could have managed more than just 2 or NCAA Tournament appearances, to be frank. Or did he just not get consistent support from their athletic department?

[xudash]

Ah, a remodeled Palumbo Center.

Think big. Or medium.

[xubrew]

Three top five teams lost to unranked teams in a 26 hour span.

Big Ten teams are 10-0 at home in early conference games

[profson]

Sorry to ask this here, but as there is not a separate Wake Forest game thread up yet, is there a pre-game gathering spot on Saturday for Xavier fans?

[94GRAD]

Sorry to ask this here, but as there is not a separate Wake Forest game thread up yet, is there a pre-game gathering spot on Saturday for Xavier fans?

https://www.facebook.com/events/595471697874923/

[xubrew]

The only games worth watching tonight are Iowa v Iowa State, and Northern Iowa at GCU. I guess it's Iowa's night to be on college basketball's center stage!!

I think everyone knows that Iowa State v Iowa is a rivalry. I don't think anyone outside of the state of Iowa realize just how bitter of a rivalry it is. A few years back, Iowa State was ranked #2 in the nation and stormed the court after beating an unranked Iowa team. Whereas pretty much everyone else would be concerned about acting like they'd been there before, they were so happy that they beat Iowa that they just didn't care.

Then there was this past year's football game where Iowa's band accused Iowa State fans of committing acts of physical assault and sexual assault. Iowa State then claimed Iowa was not helping them with their investigation, and the two have been taking shots at each other in the press ever since, which is an awful way of handling it on both of their parts.

In Cincinnati, we freak out over handshakes and the mean things that some of the fans yell at people. While I realize that's not appropriate, I also realize that there are rivalries that are A LOT nastier than the ones we are used to. The Cy Hawk rivalry is one of them. Truth be told, this one is probably now at a point to where it just isn't healthy.

[Masterofreality]

For as consistently as he won at Akron, I thought he could have managed more than just 2 or NCAA Tournament appearances, to be frank. Or did he just not get consistent support from their athletic department?

Akron has been way into getting their football program better. When Dambrot was there, they hired Terry Bowden and paid him big bucks. It didn't work out but Bowden being there was a big reason why Dambrot left. He never got the attention and resources.

Now Akron fired Bowden, hired Arth.... and went 0-12. Good move.

[Masterofreality]

Ah, a remodeled Palumbo Center.

Think big. Or medium.


Always and forever, the home of the Snuggie Game!! And the Destination of the Xavier Hoops Bus Roadtrip!!

[xubrew]

I think Northern Iowa is the best team in Iowa.

[UCGRAD4X]

I seem to remember blood being spilled on the court at one of those crosstown shootout thingies. :secret:

[xubrew]

The more I see this, the funnier I think it is. It is the most awful, yet also the greatest, broadcasting job I have ever heard. I was actually watching the game live because there was literally nothing else on. I'm glad there wasn't, because if there had been I would have missed it.

Grand Canyon was down by about 20 and was getting run off the court. GCU's broadcasters saw a former player in the stands, and basically just put him on the air. The three of them completely ignored anything that was happening in the game and just proceeded to shoot the shit like three drinking buddies. It was the worst/best announcing crew I have ever seen!!

https://twitter.com/GCU_MBB/status/1205517283767934976

[GIMMFD]

The more I see this, the funnier I think it is. It is the most awful, yet also the greatest, broadcasting job I have ever heard. I was actually watching the game live because there was literally nothing else on. I'm glad there wasn't, because if there had been I would have missed it.

Grand Canyon was down by about 20 and was getting run off the court. GCU's broadcasters saw a former player in the stands, and basically just put him on the air. The three of them completely ignored anything that was happening in the game and just proceeded to shoot the shit like three drinking buddies. It was the worst/best announcing crew I have ever seen!!

https://twitter.com/GCU_MBB/status/1205517283767934976

Lmfao honestly sounds like any time they let Walton announce a game, you never know what you're going to get, I don't think that'd bother me too much if nothing else was on, hell if anything I'd keep me entertained in a game I would otherwise have zero interest for.

[xubrew]

UC just did the dumbest thing I think I've ever seen a team do.

[Nigel Tufnel]

UC just did the dumbest thing I think I've ever seen a team do.

That was absolutely unbelievable. It wasn’t really UC...it was Jarron.

[GoMuskies]

UC is our signature win.

[GoMuskies]

Liberty got through Vandy on the road to get to 12-0. LSU in Baton Rouge is all that's standing between them and a pretty clear path to arriving to the Big Dance undefeated.

[xubrew]

SFA is sweating out UL Monroe at home. This team did beat Duke. If they can not lose to crap teams like this they may not need to win the conference tournament.

[xubrew]

UC is our signature win.

Yeah, we need to improve on that before the end of the year, or we’ll be watching the tournament on television.

[GoMuskies]

Gonzaga went into Tucson and once again proved that they're now the kings of the west in college basketball.

[Cincypunk.org]

That was absolutely unbelievable. It wasn’t really UC...it was Jarron.

I wonder what the chances are he did that intentionally to make UC lose. It certainly looked that way. He is having a really sad year.

[xubrew]

The SoCon was oh so close to going 2-0 against the ACC today. Wofford just knocked off North Carolina, and UNC Greensboro lost to NC State on a half court shot at the buzzer. UNCG has three losses this year. Two of those were on half court shots at the buzzer. Talk about the worst luck ever!

[noteggs]

Paul’s Terrier’s looked pretty good tonight! Beating UNC was impressive especially at Carmichael.

Nice to see them act look they did that and done that because they have. Not sure it was at Carmichael tho.

[Xville]

Unc is probably not even a tourney team this year especially with Anthony out. While it's nice for wofford to win, it's not that big of a deal against this years unc team.

[JTG]

Unc is probably not even a tourney team this year especially with Anthony out. While it's nice for wofford to win, it's not that big of a deal against this years unc team.

Cmon, it's always a big deal for them to beat UNC. If it was us beating UNC, everybody on here would be ecstatic.

[paulxu]

Wofford has won at Carmichael and the Dean Dome (snapped some crazy long streak of non-con W's for UNC there).

Regardless of UNC being down Anthony (?) they recruit at such a higher level than Wofford, that they should win.
They didn't because Wofford can shoot the 3. 35%.

If we shot 35% we'd be undefeated.

[xubrew]

Last night, while Gonzaga had a 20pt lead against North Carolina, the Zags fans started chanting “WE WANT WOFFORD!””

That is awesome! That is as awesome as the “Overrated” chant is stupid.

[GoMuskies]

Last night would have been an appropriate time for the overrated chant, though. Given that UNC receiving any AP top 25 votes makes them supremely overrated.

[paulxu]

Last night, while Gonzaga had a 20pt lead against North Carolina, the Zags fans started chanting “WE WANT WOFFORD!””

That is awesome! That is as awesome as the “Overrated” chant is stupid.

That is GREAT!

[smileyy]

Wiseman leaving Memphis for the NBA. So that went well.

[GoMuskies]

I guess it's all up to Precious now.

[Xville]

I have a belief that if the nba had not forced the one and done rule, the whole should we pay the players thing would be pretty non-existent. The nba kind of shoved it up the ncaa in that respect.

[XUGRAD80]

I have a belief that if the nba had not forced the one and done rule, the whole should we pay the players thing would be pretty non-existent. The nba kind of shoved it up the ncaa in that respect.

To a degree, I agree. But there were/are a lot of football players that really pushing the ability to be paid for their likeness. It’s just a small step from wanting to allow players to profit that way, to wanting schools to pay the players directly. However, if it weren’t for the stupid NBA rule it might not have come so soon.

[smileyy]

I expect the G League to replace the NCAA as the high school-er proving ground in the very near future.

[xubrew]

Hmmmm.

The semester ends, grades post, and Wiseman says he’s leaving Memphis.

Can’t help but wonder if he was even academically eligible to play once the grades came out.

[Xville]

What a gritty impressive win by the hall. No powell, no mamuwhateverhisnameis and still beat maryland

[Lloyd Braun]

One day they’ll do it in March!

[muskiefan82]

Citadel v. Longwood going to 3ot. Fun to watch since I don't care

[noteggs]

Hmmmm.

The semester ends, grades post, and Wiseman says he’s leaving Memphis.

Can’t help but wonder if he was even academically eligible to play once the grades came out.

Great point and speaks volumes...maybe, but not really.

[smileyy]

Check out the box score from the Arizona St / St. Mary's game

[JTG]

Hmmmm.

The semester ends, grades post, and Wiseman says he’s leaving Memphis.

Can’t help but wonder if he was even academically eligible to play once the grades came out.

Da! It's Memphis, I doubt he can recite the alphabet.

[xcellentx]

Hmmmm.

The semester ends, grades post, and Wiseman says he’s leaving Memphis.

Can’t help but wonder if he was even academically eligible to play once the grades came out.

I wouldn't be surprised if he was not particularly interested in going to class after the suspension.

Most likely though there are some agents who got in his or his families ear. I also wouldn't be surprised if the payment plan to pay back the money given by Penny was part of this issue.

[smileyy]

The agents are right. He's better off working out with NBA-level trainers than he is risking injury playing for free. By leaving he can start making money right away (endorsements, shoe deals, etc.)

[GoMuskies]

Check out the box score from the Arizona St / St. Mary's game

That reminds me of my days playing on bad intramural teams. I'd fire at will and might score 43 while my team lost by 40 (because everyone else on my team would go a combined 5 for 35).

[bjf123]

That reminds me of my days playing on bad intramural teams. I'd fire at will and might score 43 while my team lost by 40 (because everyone else on my team would go a combined 5 for 35).

You sound like I guy I played with in high school. We called him Bang Bang. If he got the ball, he was shooting. Most of my points were put backs on his misses.


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[Xville]

Nova beats #1 and douchebag bill self in a close one. Some good wins out of the big east this week.

[GoMuskies]

Now we get the annual tradition of people grousing about Gonzaga being overrated because of their conference despite them buzzing through a very challenging non-conference schedule.

[X Factor]

Nova beats #1 and douchebag bill self in a close one. Some good wins out of the big east this week.

And Xavier opens BE play at Villanova...:sad:

[GoMuskies]

Providence is pounding Texas. The Big East/Big 12 challenge is going well for our side. Xavier needs to do its part tomorrow!

[XU 23]

Yeah, BE is wiping the floor against the Big 12 this year. DePaul, Creighton, St. John’s, Marquette, Seton Hall, Georgetown, Villanova, and Providence have all won their BIG 12 games if I’m not mistaken.

[X-band '01]

Big East was a perfect 5-0 at home against the Big 12. X can make it 8-2 overall with a win at TCU tomorrow.

Thankfully for the Big 12, they'll get to feast on the SEC next month.

[bobbiemcgee]

cu-vd 66-66 ot - former VD commit McKinley Wright with 27 so far.

[X-band '01]

What a big road win for Colorado.

[X Factor]

What a big road win for Colorado.

Game was played on a neutral court in Chicago at The United Center.

[X-band '01]

Umm, did you see or hear the crowd at all tonight? You could hear a pin drop after the game-winning 3.

Again, that's as good as roadkill for the Buffs.

[Lloyd Braun]

The BE really needed this week. Feels like a rather lackluster non-con until the last week. Hopefully X can continue the trend against B12

[Xavgrad08]

Wright played like a beast for Colorado. Not sure why UD fans thought it was smart to boo the former UD signee. Florida lost today to a good Utah St. team. Florida has talent, but has been very inconsistent this year.

[X Factor]

BE ranked 2nd in conference RPI now

[scoscox]

Umm, did you see or hear the crowd at all tonight? You could hear a pin drop after the game-winning 3.

Again, that's as good as roadkill for the Buffs.

it won't count that way for them unfortunately, but that's what it was more or less

[noteggs]

Big picture...does it matter UD lost. Wife (UD grad) is bitchen’ at me while I post. Couch will be comfortable tonight.

[bobbiemcgee]

Florida has talent, but has been very inconsistent this year.

Not unlike another team not to be named here.

[AviatorX]

Dayton is definitely a Top 25 team, but all this Elite 8/Final 4 talk is pretty over the top. They might do it, but it will sure as hell be a Cinderella style run with a defensive efficiency sitting in the 60s/70s.

[bobbiemcgee]

Big picture...does it matter UD lost. Wife (UD grad) is bitchen’ at me while I post. Couch will be comfortable tonight.

Wives think sleeping on the couch is punishment. Don't anybody tell them.

[Xavgrad08]

St. John’s takes down Arizona. Mike Anderson has done a solid job for St. John’s so far.

[OTRMUSKIE]

VD is a very good team but they act like this is normal for them. You still have not played one true road game. You still haven’t beaten a really good team and no St Mary’s doesn’t count on a neutral court. The fact that you were even in the game against Colorado should be a victory for you. YOU'RE DAYTON AND YOU SUCK ALWAYS. However I will give VD credit Bc they are actually pretty good. Tough loss today but at the end of the day you must realize you’re VD and sucking is what you do!! F&@k VD. BTW OBI has been figured out. Should Have known better then to think VD actually had a NBA player. ;)

[xubrew]

Wichita State is now 10-1 on the season with some pretty damn good wins. They stunk during the first half of last season with what was a completely new roster, but they actually finished the year by going 14-4. That means they are 24-5 in their last 29 games. Yeah....maybe they should be ranked!

[GoMuskies]

I went to see Wichita State beat up on VCU yesterday. I'm not sure how good VCU really is, but Wichita State looked pretty good. They're also really young, so this core should be good for a couple more years. With Wiseman leaving Memphis, they've got as good a shot as anyone to win the American.

[X-band '01]

Memphis did win at Tennessee without Wiseman, so they're still going to be a factor. Houston is still looking for a win of significance.

Cincin - err, never mind.

[X-band '01]

Of all the teams to score 70 and win at Virginia by double digits, I would have never guessed it would come courtesy of Angry Frank's South Carolina team.

[GoMuskies]

The sad saga of Carlton Bragg continues as the 24 year old was indefinitely suspended by New Mexico. If his name sounds familiar, it's because he once was an all-world recruit headed to Kansas. He was playing well for a good Mew Mexico team (that includes former Buckeye JaQuan Lyle), so hopefully he's able to at least go to Europe and make some money. He's clearly loaded with talent.

Saw that New Mexico State got a nice road win at Mississippi State today. When I saw that, I checked N Mex St's schedule to see what they've been up to, and I noticed that they have already played non-conference home and homes with UTEP and New Mexico. Good for all the schools involved to fill the schedule with opponents with which they have long histories and which the fans of both sides likely see as meaningful.

[noteggs]

Big East freshman of the week is......

Zach Freemantle!

Congrats Zach!

[UCGRAD4X]

Big East freshman of the week is......

Zach Freemantle!

Congrats Zach!

Way to go Z Freak.

More to come.

[paulxu]

Little Mick "reprimanded" by Pac12 for commenting about referees.

(Put in time out with the other bad kids)

[xu82]

Little Mick "reprimanded" by Pac12 for commenting about referees.

(Put in time out with the other bad kids)

I hope it was in a corner with a little dunce hat. Well, I guess it would have to be a miniature little dunce hat.....

[Xavgrad08]

Does not sound good for Evansville coach McCarty. https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28378080/evansville-walter-mccarty-administrative-leave-amid-title-ix-probe?platform=amp

[X-band '01]

Does not sound good for Evansville coach McCarty. https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28378080/evansville-walter-mccarty-administrative-leave-amid-title-ix-probe?platform=amp

Not sure exactly what he did, but here's an aftershock:

PurpleAcesFans.com message board shutting down (http://purpleacesfans.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1949)

[Muskie]

Wow.... I love to know the backstory on the board shutting down.


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[Muskie in dayton]

I hope it was in a corner with a little dunce hat. Well, I guess it would have to be a miniature little dunce hat.....

Elf on the shelf?

[bjf123]

Wow.... I love to know the backstory on the board shutting down.


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I think the board’s owner describes it pretty well in the linked post. He sees an upcoming shit storm and doesn’t want his board to have anything to do with it. You know people will post unsubstantiated rumors and innuendo because they talked to the student’s brother’s girlfriend’s uncle’s second cousin who says he has the inside scoop.


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[GoMuskies]

Well, the day has arrived: the one day per year during basketball season when I get out all my Louisville gear and cheer for Chris Mack like he was still our own. Go Cards!

[X-band '01]

Ditto, but I should probably book an hour after the game for taking a shower. It just feels so filthy.

[JTG]

Well, the day has arrived: the one day per year during basketball season when I get out all my Louisville gear and cheer for Chris Mack like he was still our own. Go Cards!

Not a UK fan, but for this game Hell No to UL. Cal never did anything to screw us. I hope UL gets crushed.

[Xville]

Well, the day has arrived: the one day per year during basketball season when I get out all my Louisville gear and cheer for Chris Mack like he was still our own. Go Cards!

This is actually the one game a year I yell go caaaaayyyyuts. Fuck mack

[X-band '01]

Not a UK fan, but for this game Hell No to UL. Cal never did anything to screw us. I hope UL gets crushed.

Cal did a little lobbying for Sean Miller to get the Arizona job. He didn't like having to recruit against him at the time he took the UK job.

[noteggs]

I think the board’s owner describes it pretty well in the linked post. He sees an upcoming shit storm and doesn’t want his board to have anything to do with it. You know people will post unsubstantiated rumors and innuendo because they talked to the student’s brother’s girlfriend’s uncle’s second cousin who says he has the inside scoop.


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Think you’re spot on. Obviously they started a thread on the situation and in few hours they had 102 comments of just that. Their message board turned into a rumor board. Glad we don’t float around rumors here.

[Xville]

On another note, college basketball gets dumber and dumber in terms of their scheduling. You have one of the best rivalry games in the sport, and you schedule it at the same time as one of the college football playoff games. Genius.

[X-band '01]

That's more of a byproduct of UL-UK traditionally taking place on the Saturday after Christmas. If anything, they should have moved that game up to the 1:30 timeslot and stuck this Wisconsin-UT slugfest against the playoffs instead.

On a related note, who at Memphis decided not to switch their gametime so as not to conflict with their bowl game?

[Xville]

That's more of a byproduct of UL-UK traditionally taking place on the Saturday after Christmas. If anything, they should have moved that game up to the 1:30 timeslot and stuck this Wisconsin-UT slugfest against the playoffs instead.

On a related note, who at Memphis decided not to switch their gametime so as not to conflict with their bowl game?

I know but that's just one of the ways in which college basketball has sunk to complete irrelevance outside of march, save for the Ohio, indiana and kentucky area and the Carolinas. The rest of the country doesnt give a crap about the sport. College basketball could do a lot in terms of scheduling to make the sport more popular, but maybe they just dont care because of the cash cow in march.

[GoMuskies]

They just wanted to be sure there would be no conflict with Louisville or Kentucky football. Playoffs? Safe.

[Xville]

The cayyyyyuts should win since they are ranked and mack sucks against good teams even though I dont think uk is all that good yet this year. Mack is already 5-8 against ranked teams at louisville...soon to be 5-9. Curious what he was at xavier...guessing it was equally mediocre.

[xubrew]

On another note, college basketball gets dumber and dumber in terms of their scheduling. You have one of the best rivalry games in the sport, and you schedule it at the same time as one of the college football playoff games. Genius.

“College basketball” doesn’t really have a commissioner of scheduling. It’s entirely up to the schools and networks, and this game will almost always be the Saturday after Christmas. No one in the state of Kentucky is even aware that there are playoff games today.

[xubrew]

Like most UL v UK games, it is a rock fight with almost no offensive flow.

[GoMuskies]

The cayyyyyuts should win since they are ranked and mack sucks against good teams even though I dont think uk is all that good yet this year. Mack is already 5-8 against ranked teams at louisville...soon to be 5-9. Curious what he was at xavier...guessing it was equally mediocre.

If they lose to this shitty Kentucky team, then Louisville is not good.

[Xville]

“College basketball” doesn’t really have a commissioner of scheduling. It’s entirely up to the schools and networks, and this game will almost always be the Saturday after Christmas. No one in the state of Kentucky is even aware that there are playoff games today.

Great for kentucky, bad for the overall sport.

[Xville]

If they lose to this shitty Kentucky team, then Louisville is not good.

I put a lot on kentucky for three reasons:

1. UK is desperate for a win
2. Rupp
3. Talent is about equal, cal is a better coach, that spells trouble for mack.

[GoMuskies]

I'm not sure Cal can coach his way out of a paper bag anymore. Great recruiter.

[GoMuskies]

Does Louisville have any shooters other than McMahon? They sure shot like shit this half. Assume Nwora won't be this bad in the second half.

Also, I forgot Dino was on Mack's bench.

[Xville]

Haha mack sucks ass

[xubrew]

Great for kentucky, bad for the overall sport.

Maybe, but then again maybe not. This game is always ugly, so maybe it’s better if fewer people watch.

[Xville]

Maybe, but then again maybe not. This game is always ugly, so maybe it’s better if fewer people watch.

True it usually is ugly....I'm just thinking with these non conference rivalries, college basketball could actually do something that would draw eyes to the sport outside of march.

Do a non-conference rivalry week in february once football is over to "introduce" the sport....

Missouri-Kansas
Cincinnati-Xavier
Louisville-Kentucky

Whatever other ones are relevant that I cant think of right now....

I know espn does rivalry week in february but it is usually just Duke-UNC and then a bunch of other games no one cares about.

I dunno...just spitballing here.

[GoMuskies]

Louisville looks a lot better when they make a couple shots. Weird how that works.

[GoMuskies]

Near fight late. Mack knows about those in rivalry games!

[X-band '01]

Can't have any real fireworks unless it's a blowout.

[GoMuskies]

Louisville choked it away at the foul line. 9 for 20.

[Xville]

Awww poor mack....eat a dick

[GoMuskies]

Certainly don't feel bad for him. Just hate to see Kentucky fans happy.

[X-band '01]

Certainly don't feel bad for him. Just hate to see Kentucky fans happy.

In other words, you hate seeing Papa John in the heart of Big Blue Nation behind the bench.

[xubrew]

Kentucky owns this series. The biggest difference today was that Kentucky’s freethrow defense was outstanding!

[X-band '01]

Meanwhile, UCLA just laid an egg at home to Cal State-Fullerton. The Titans improved to 4-10 with their win.

[muskiefan82]

It's a banner day!!

[paulxu]

Meanwhile, UCLA just laid an egg at home to Cal State-Fullerton. The Titans improved to 4-10 with their win.

Must have been bad refereeing.

[GoMuskies]

LSU/Liberty tomorrow to determine whether we might have an undefeated team come March Madness. Liberty +6.5

[X-man]

Meanwhile, UCLA just laid an egg at home to Cal State-Fullerton. The Titans improved to 4-10 with their win.

And what does Mick do post-game? Throw the team under the bus, naturally. Link: https://www.bruinzone.com/b12/messages/48507.shtml.

[X-band '01]

And somewhere down in the Metroplex, Jamie Dixon's cracking a cold one on the couch and smiles while thinking "Not my mess to clean up"

[XUGRAD80]

Reminds me of a line from a baseball book...”I managed good, but boy did they play bad.”

[paulxu]

What the hell was the UCLA braintrust thinking when they looked at his record/press conferences, etc. and said..."why this must be our guy!"

Wonder what his buyout is? No way he lasts longer than 2 years.

[Muskie]

What the hell was the UCLA braintrust thinking when they looked at his record/press conferences, etc. and said..."why this must be our guy!"

Wonder what his buyout is? No way he lasts longer than 2 years.

My guess is they didn’t look at any of that. Some rich donor became infatuated with him (after their swing and misses) and that’s who they picked.


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[xubrew]

Ohio State v West Virginia is about to tip off. This is the sporting event that OSU fans have been waiting for for weeks!!

[noteggs]

Can’t believe WV Miles McBride was ranked 300 by 247 in 2019. The guy can flat out play. Anyone know if X showed any interest in him. Seems like he had a pretty darn good connection to our program. His dad Walt was a fun player to watch when I was at school back in the 80’s.

[scoscox]

Can’t believe WV Miles McBride was ranked 300 by 247 in 2019. The guy can flat out play. Anyone know if X showed any interest in him. Seems like he had a pretty darn good connection to our program. His dad Walt was a fun player to watch when I was at school back in the 80’s.

He was injured his entire senior year at Moeller, so no one really knew exactly how good he was. can't blame Snow and the boys for that

[scoscox]

Chris Mack asked about Kentucky's late execution: "I want to say this in a respectful way: They don't run a whole lot."

this reminded me about some of the stuff he said about Nova running a pretty simple offense shortly before losing by 25. don't miss this

[X-band '01]

Until today, what was Bob Huggins' last big win in the state of Ohio?

[Xville]

Chris Mack asked about Kentucky's late execution: "I want to say this in a respectful way: They don't run a whole lot."

this reminded me about some of the stuff he said about Nova running a pretty simple offense shortly before losing by 25. don't miss this

Macks a douche bag and a mediocre coach against good competition.

[noteggs]

He was injured his entire senior year at Moeller, so no one really knew exactly how good he was. can't blame Snow and the boys for that

Do you mean his junior year where he only played the last two games? Weird how WV offered that year in January and he signed in February. Looks like he was second in GCL in scoring and played all 21 games as a senior. Just curious, was he injured in the 2018 spring and summer AAU evaluations as well? After looking at 247 again, 300 ranking was his composite and 247 had him around 217 with 3 stars. Still seems a little off IMO.

Also, did X show any interest at anytime?

[scoscox]

Do you mean his junior year where he only played the last two games? Weird how WV offered that year in January and he signed in February. Looks like he was second in GCL in scoring and played all 21 games as a senior. Just curious, was he injured in the 2018 spring and summer AAU evaluations as well? After looking at 247 again, 300 ranking was his composite and 247 had him around 217 with 3 stars. Still seems a little off IMO.

Also, did X show any interest at anytime?

youre right it was his junior year. maybe it has something to do with playing in the GCL. It can definitely suppress counting stats for good players. Jaxson Hayes barely played before his senior year and still wasn't a huge stat stuffer as a senior and became a lotto pick.

I could be wrong, but I think it was more about him not being interested in Xavier than the other way around, although I don't think we were hotly pursuing him by any means

[scoscox]

Macks a douche bag and a mediocre coach against good competition.

i'll never get over the way he talked about nova before and after wright would embarrass him again and again on a national stage. so glad to not have to deal with that anymore

[bleedXblue]

He was injured his entire senior year at Moeller, so no one really knew exactly how good he was. can't blame Snow and the boys for that

that's not Walt's kid is it?

[xubrew]

Liberty fell to LSU, which is their first loss of the year. No one else in the ASun even looks like a top 200 team, so it very well could be their last loss of the year prior to the NCAA Tournament.

[94GRAD]

that's not Walt's kid is it?

That is definitely Walt's son

[Xavgrad08]

Arkansas takes down IU. Archie does not seem to be well liked by IU fans.

[xubrew]

Maine is currently playing at Hawaii. I don’t think there are two div1 teams that are geographically further apart. That is a VERY long bus ride!

[noteggs]

Maine is currently playing at Hawaii. I don’t think there are two div1 teams that are geographically further apart. That is a VERY long bus ride!

Especially for Maine if they lose

[Xville]

Arkansas takes down IU. Archie does not seem to be well liked by IU fans.

Why would they? He did nothing with romeo langford who fell into his lap and outside of that, his recruiting has been pretty medicore.

With that said, Indian's fanbase has crazy expectations.

[smileyy]

I'm p. sure he'll do pretty well someplace that's not IU. The expectations vs. reality for IU are pretty far apart.

[X-band '01]

With apologies to Lefty Driesell, Indiana is the real UCLA of the East.

[Masterofreality]

Why would they? He did nothing with romeo langford who fell into his lap and outside of that, his recruiting has been pretty medicore.

With that said, Indian's fanbase has crazy expectations.

See, this is another example of guys that should know better than to move out of their element. Porter Moser was smart to ditch the extra up front cash and stay at Loyola Chi where he can basically stay forever rather than taking a risky job at St. Johns and uprooting his family.
Other that Archie moving on from a cushy situation at udump, Shaka leaving VCU for Texas where he's mediocre, and Travis Ford leaving UMass for OK State. At least Ford got back to his proper level at St. Louis.
Little Micky will soon regret his UCLA move. Losing to Cal State Fullerton, 284 in KenPom, with a bunch of 4 star recruits won't play well in LA for much longer. One and Done??

[Xville]

See, this is another example of guys that should know better than to move out of their element. Porter Moser was smart to ditch the extra up front cash and stay at Loyola Chi where he can basically stay forever rather than taking a risky job at St. Johns and uprooting his family.
Other that Archie moving on from a cushy situation at udump, Shaka leaving VCU for Texas where he's mediocre, and Travis Ford leaving UMass for OK State. At least Ford got back to his proper level at St. Louis.
Little Micky will soon regret his UCLA move. Losing to Cal State Fullerton, 284 in KenPom, with a bunch of 4 star recruits won't play well in LA for much longer. One and Done??

You have to have a pretty outgoing charismatic personality at a place like iu along with being a good coach and Archie is a minus in the personality department. I think he'd be great at any place outside of the top 10ish historical programs.

Moser, ford, shaka, and lil dick mick are far inferior coaches than archie in my opinion. In the case of Moser and shaka, they caught lightning in a bottle which will never happen with them again.

[AviatorX]

IU is 11-2 (albeit against a shaky non-conference schedule) and Archie has landed Indiana Mr. Basketball in back to back years (both happened to be McDonald's All Americans as well). IU is also in good shape with a number of highly ranked 2021 recruits (the 2020 class is mostly complementary pieces based on the idea that the Hoosiers will return a good chunk).

Let's not overstate the peril of Archie's situation. He'll win there. It's a bit difficult to judge last season after the injuries that struck the roster (including Romeo, who played hurt all season).

Comparing the IU job to the Porter Moser and Travis Ford situations is ridiculous. Obviously Archie would have been dumb to leave UD for a mid-tier power team. You can't really fault anyone in taking the IU job.

[paulxu]

You have to have a pretty outgoing charismatic personality

Well, that's certainly the first thing that comes to mind when thinking about little Mick.

[X-band '01]

What's really weird is Arkansas and their former coach Mike Anderson. Anderson is actually an upgrade over Chris Mullin at St. John's, at least from an Xs and Os standpoint so far. How he'll recruit remains to be seen. He's not making excuses like the YTG down in Westwood.

As for the Hogs, Eric Musselman has them on the right track, although their schedule was mostly abysmal in the noncon. Fortunately for them, the SEC isn't going to be nearly the juggernaut it was last season.

[GIMMFD]

IU is 11-2 (albeit against a shaky non-conference schedule) and Archie has landed Indiana Mr. Basketball in back to back years (both happened to be McDonald's All Americans as well). IU is also in good shape with a number of highly ranked 2021 recruits (the 2020 class is mostly complementary pieces based on the idea that the Hoosiers will return a good chunk).

Let's not overstate the peril of Archie's situation. He'll win there. It's a bit difficult to judge last season after the injuries that struck the roster (including Romeo, who played hurt all season).

Comparing the IU job to the Porter Moser and Travis Ford situations is ridiculous. Obviously Archie would have been dumb to leave UD for a mid-tier power team. You can't really fault anyone in taking the IU job.

To be honest, I don't even fault Shaka Smart for taking the Texas job, his Final 4 run with VCU was his second season there, he stayed at VCU for 4 more seasons after that before moving on to Texas. You have basically the biggest athletic department in the entire country, with an insane pay raise, and all the amenities you could ask for. I don't blame him one bit.

[xubrew]

Brown up 58-46 on Rhode Island with 10 mins to go. If Brown wins this, I am declaring them state champions of Rhode Island!!!

[chico]

Never mind.

[noteggs]

How about Bobbie’s Buffs?

[GoMuskies]

Gonzaga down 7 at half to Portland. Perhaps the curse of #1 will continue.

[bobbiemcgee]

Colorado zips up #4 Oregon.

[Xville]

Missouri has played well since the disaster against Charleston southern. If they can find a way to win at kentucky, that will be 5 wins in a row; 3 of those against teams with a pulse.

Could end up being xaviers best non con win.

[Xville]

Well, missouri stuck with them for 15 minutes, now Kentucky's talent has taken over.

[Xavgrad08]

Louisville gets beat by Florida St.