2020 Recruits

[Xuperman]

http://www.espn.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/view/espnu100/sort/rank/class/2020

Updated ESPN Top 100 now has Odom at #76 and Wilcher at #77 which should help both guys composite rankings. For some reason they do not show CJ as a Xavier commit. ESPN kinda sucks in this department.

[SM#24]

ESPN is the last place anyone should look for recruiting information.

[GoMuskies]

Not sure if we are involved with Jay Scrubb anymore or not, but he is considering going pro after his second JUCO season instead of going to college.

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/college/louisville/2019/06/25/louisville-basketball-prospect-jay-scrubb-might-pick-nba-over-college/1551196001/

[XU 87]

http://www.espn.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/view/espnu100/sort/rank/class/2020

Updated ESPN Top 100 now has Odom at #76 and Wilcher at #77 which should help both guys composite rankings. For some reason they do not show CJ as a Xavier commit. ESPN kinda sucks in this department.

I think Scout/247 has Odom in the 40's and Wilcher in the 140's.

[GIMMFD]

I think Scout/247 has Odom in the 40's and Wilcher in the 140's.

Yup, Odom dropped down to 44, Wilcher from around 113 or so to 139, but 247 does a composite ranking too, so this should pop Odom up from like 104 composite to something much higher, and Wilcher should get a boost from 125 to something higher with ESPN putting them up in the top 100. Someone posted on the WVU board a while ago how to calculate the composite, so I'll find that later and tell ya what it should be.

[xukeith]

FWIW, Brian Snow as a 247 recruiting "expert" has Niels Lane 100% predicting to commit to X. He is a top 65 player and guard.
https://247sports.com/player/niels-lane-46048752/

[Xuperman]

FWIW, Brian Snow as a 247 recruiting "expert" has Niels Lane 100% predicting to commit to X. He is a top 65 player and guard.
https://247sports.com/player/niels-lane-46048752/

That is bizarre. I wonder what info he has to base a 100% prediction. Lane has suddenly become a smoking hot prospect for 2020 and there has been a lot of recent activity in his recruitment but nothing new Xavier wise that I can find. Looks like Calipari made a visit 2 Sunday’s ago for a closer look and the below article from 11 days ago has no mention of X. Evidently Cooley has long been in hot pursuit and 1 recruiting site has him 60% SHU. Would love to see X flex their recruiting muscle once again and snatch this guy from right under their noses. He would make it 4 of our last 8 from NJ/PA and all 4 are top 100 guys!

https://n.rivals.com/news/evans-seven-2020-recruitments-that-took-surprising-turns-in-june

[xufan02]

That is bizarre. I wonder what info he has to base a 100% prediction. Lane has suddenly become a smoking hot prospect for 2020 and there has been a lot of recent activity in his recruitment but nothing new Xavier wise that I can find. Looks like Calipari made a visit 2 Sunday’s ago for a closer look and the below article from 11 days ago has no mention of X. Evidently Cooley has long been in hot pursuit and 1 recruiting site has him 60% SHU. Would love to see X flex their recruiting muscle once again and snatch this guy from right under their noses. He would make it 4 of our last 8 from NJ/PA and all 4 are top 100 guys!

https://n.rivals.com/news/evans-seven-2020-recruitments-that-took-surprising-turns-in-june

Lane visited Xavier in June on an unofficial and loved it. It also doesn't hurt that his high school teammate is CJ Wilcher.

[Xuperman]

They may have played some AAU ball together but CJ plays for St. Benedict in Newark and Lane transferred from a smaller school in Princeton to play for power house Roselle Catholic this year.....chances are they know one another. I'm pretty sure these big private schools in East Jersey schedule on a regular basis, so there is a good chance they will play against each other this year.

[xufan02]

They may have played some AAU ball together but CJ plays for St. Benedict in Newark and Lane transferred from a smaller school in Princeton to play for power house Roselle Catholic this year.....chances are they know one another. I'm pretty sure these big private schools in East Jersey schedule on a regular basis, so there is a good chance they will play against each other this year.

CJ is transferring to Roselle Catholic for his senior season, hence my statement above.

[Xuperman]

CJ is transferring to Roselle Catholic for his senior season, hence my statement above.

https://www.zagsblog.com/2019/06/07/c-j-wilcher-to-xavier/

If true, it would be very unusual for a guy to transfer from one big time program to another but I guess it doesn’t matter. Can you post the source you have on him transferring? The above article is from last month with St Benedict’s Coach heaping a ton of praise on him, as if he’ll be there in the fall. It is true that 247 has him listed for Roselle but can’t find anything else to corroborate it. I didn’t see anything on his Twitter.....Maxpreps, Rivals and ESPN still have him at St. B.

[xufan02]

It's on a paid site.

[EastCoastXman]

Roselle Catholic top 3 program back here in jersey. Was our rival school when I played at Union Catholic. They have a long list of recent thoughbreds coming out of that school. K Whitney just graduated and going to Kentucky. I believe that Naz Reid was also there the year before. 20 minute ride to watch them play so I hope they are both together this year.

Getting Z Free and don't forget that Naji is from Atlantic City. Love this pipeline from NJ to X. My Seton Hall buddies are all crying about how they can't get this talent to stay in NJ.

[Xuperman]

Hey EASTCOAST, where you been? Really wanted to hear your insight on Freemantle’s final few HS games. Anyhow, what’s the local scoop on Niels Lane? Are your SHU buddies buying in to this “100% Lane to Xavier” prediction or are the Pirates still in it? Also, any news in the Jersey press on Wilcher suiting up for Roselle? Hard to understand why he would leave St B for Roselle but if he did they’re gonna be really good. They have that 6’11” blue chipper down low and if they add CJ, they will have 2 big time scorers in the back court.

Speaking of ZFree and BC....just noticed that his buddy Zona picked up an offer from Penn St and one of their guards just committed to Butler. A lot of relevant BEast news has been flowing out of Jersey, so keep us posted!

[Xuperman]

FWIW, Brian Snow as a 247 recruiting "expert" has Niels Lane 100% predicting to commit to X. He is a top 65 player and guard.
https://247sports.com/player/niels-lane-46048752/

Man I hope Snow knows what he’s talking about. This guy would be an unbelievable get!!

https://www.zagsblog.com/2019/06/27/2020-guard-niels-lane-piling-up-recruiting-offers-and-interest/

He looks like a Musketeer to me!!

[EastCoastXman]

Had a little bump in the road but back in action. Just finished booking 5 XU roomies and spouses to Charleston for November.

Zfree had a great season and Bergen Catholic played a challenging HS schedule last season. He is "Jersey Strong" (Hurricane Sandy motto here in NJ) and I'm sure he will contribute immediately. Trip to Spain should help all our new Frosh and transfers. Hope he brings the JP attitude to this team.

CJ & Niels - 247 has CJ listed as Roselle Catholic. NJ has very liberal rules on transfers so it is quite common for these guys to transfer multiple times during HS career. Roselle Catholic at a much higher level than Benedict's and would be happy if he landed in Roselle playing for the Lions (same gym I played in from 66-68 for my stellar HS career against RC. Almost made the frosh team in 68 at X). CJ and Niels look like carbon copies of each other at 6' 5" and 195. Brian Snow at 247 has him at 100% commit. His prediction record for class of 2020 is 12/12. Lets hope he is right. I think Dante is on these guys.
They play a couple of big in season HS tournaments at RC and RC only plays the high level NJ teams and lots of out of state programs. We will be in attendance once December arrives.

[Xuperman]

Thanks for the update...check in with more as you get it.

So, has Benedict stopped competing at a high level? They were killing it when I lived there. It seems like yesterday that Tyler Ennis was there and they won like 65 games in his final 2 years. I think they were ranked in the top 5 nationally as well both years. Anyway, I hope CJ has transferred to Roselle and gets a full season to jell with Lane. That of course will only reap benefits IF Lane ends up at X.

[xavier513]

I should point out that the "100% predicted to end up at Xavier" on the 247 web site just means that 1 crystal ball has been entered for Niels Lane and it was for Xavier, so 100% of the crystal balls for Lane (1/1) are for Xavier. It doesn't mean that Brian Snow is 100% certain that Lane will commit to Xavier. That said, Snow is among the very best with his predictions and he's pretty confident with his pick here, not to mention that he's extremely connected with Xavier recruiting. C.J. Wilcher and Lane are buds and Dante Jackson is the lead recruiter for both.

[XU 87]

Snow was about 93% correct in his predictions last year. He's 12/12 this year, including Wilcher (as noted above). As such, unless something out of the blue happens, we should expect to see a Niels Lane commitment.

Woo hoo.

[Xuperman]

This is a crazy situation. If Cooley offered this kid as a sophomore and has stayed fully engaged throughout and he still ends up at X.....Steele and staff will have to be considered our all time greatest recruiters after just 2 classes!!

[Murph85]

Maybe Cooley interviewing for the Michigan job and SH's lack of tourney success were/are a factor. It could be an epic class if they get him and Ben Carlson.

[scoscox]

lack of tourney success applies to both of them. maybe dante is just a monster john calipari type on the recruiting trail

[Xuperman]

The Adidas Gauntlet Summer Championship kicks off today in Birmingham. Looks like Odom and the Atlanta Celtics are scheduled to play 2 games 11:30-3:30.

https://www.exposuresportsnews.com/page/show/4928388-atlanta-celtics-ga-

Based on their spring record (12-3) they have a good shot at making the finals.

I'm a little curious to see what Deivon Smith will do...have a hunch he may end up at X.

[Murph85]

lack of tourney success applies to both of them. maybe dante is just a monster john calipari type on the recruiting trail

I was talking about the schools as well as the coaches. SH has just underperformed when they have had the talent. Also it is somewhat known TS was very important in game strategy while being the assistant coach.

[scoscox]

I was referring to Providence and Seton Hall both not having tournament success, not Travis, although that's true as well to this point

[Xuperman]

The Adidas Gauntlet Summer Championship kicks off today in Birmingham. Looks like Odom and the Atlanta Celtics are scheduled to play 2 games 11:30-3:30.

https://www.exposuresportsnews.com/page/show/4928388-atlanta-celtics-ga-

In the 1st game, Dwon and his mates will be thoroughly tested. Garner Road NC boasts 2 ACC commits, slick SG McCorkle headed to UVA and 6’10” behemoth Day’Ron Sharpe a 5 star UNC recruit. Looks like this tournament requires no more than 1 loss to make the championship game on Sunday, so I guess they can stumble in the opener and still get there.

[Xuperman]

https://www.exposuresportsnews.com/stats/league_instance/92603?subseason=601375&tab=league_instance_player_stats&tool=3639781

I noticed a couple more names of interest in this tourney. Ben Carlson plays for the top team (13-0) D1 Minnesota. They misspelled the poor guys name though, they have him listed as Ben Barlson. He is part of an impressive front court that features Dawson Garcia.

Surprisingly Paul McMillan has been competing in the 17U division and is killing it! He’s 2nd on the circuit in total points with 157! He plays for Manimal Elite KY. Just imagine what he’ll be in 2022!

On a side note, there is an Indiana kid named Grant Coleman flying under the radar. He’s a 6’7” 2020 guy that is tops on the circuit at 23 ppg and has the high single game at 43, but get this, he’s shooting .667 from distance at an 18 for 27 clip! Can’t find any recruiting info on him but man he’s hot!

[Nigel Tufnel]

Atlanta Celtics won first game 57-52. Odom had 14 pts, 4 rebounds and 3 assists. Deivon Smith was 10-13 from the field, 23 pts, 5 rebounds and 5 assists. Odom went 2-5 from FT. Yuck.

[Xuperman]

Atlanta Celtics won first game 57-52. Odom had 14 pts, 4 rebounds and 3 assists. Deivon Smith was 10-13 from the field, 23 pts, 5 rebounds and 5 assists. Odom went 2-5 from FT. Yuck.

WOW, they beat that Carolina club? Nothing but killer BBall news in July.

As far as Dwon, Yeah, his struggle at the charity stripe is well documented...seems to be a fairly easy problem to correct....anybody other than me, excited about getting Deivon? He bookends very well with Odom.

[Nigel Tufnel]

Odom, Smith, Wilcher, Lane. Seems crowded. I don’t think X will be getting Smith.

[xufan2020]

WOW, they beat that Carolina club? Nothing but killer BBall news in July.

As far as Dwon, Yeah, his struggle at the charity stripe is well documented...seems to be a fairly easy problem to correct....anybody other than me, excited about getting Deivon? He bookends very well with Odom.
Are you hearing something that we’re not about Deivon? There’s been next to no indication he is a top priority for Xavier. Along with the guard position being loaded in the 19-20 classes, that doesn’t help regarding his potential commitment to X

[Xuperman]

Odom, Smith, Wilcher, Lane. Seems crowded. I don’t think X will be getting Smith.

Fortunately Odom is a FIRM COMMIT for X but Deivon is killer. I think he has mass chemistry with Odom....stay tuned!

[XMuskieFTW]

There's about a 1% chance Smith ends up at X

[scoscox]

I'm assuming we have someone at the Peach Jam to watch Niels Lane. Anybody know for sure?

[Nigel Tufnel]

Atlanta Celtics won second game 70-56. Odom had 19 points on 9-9 shooting from the field.

[scoscox]

Is that good?

[Lloyd Braun]

Atlanta Celtics won first game 57-52. Odom had 14 pts, 4 rebounds and 3 assists. Deivon Smith was 10-13 from the field, 23 pts, 5 rebounds and 5 assists. Odom went 2-5 from FT. Yuck.

Over/under number of games some idiot fan suggests Travis makes Odom shoot more free throws set at 1.5.

[Xuperman]

There's about a 1% chance Smith ends up at X

Well, he holds an offer so 1% seems a bit detached from reality....I however am optimistic. Mostly based on his friendship/chemistry with Dwon and the fact Coach Hayes is on the case.

Not to mention X really needs quality guards for 2020 to enhance depth in the back court.....CJ is slotted to be a Tre style wing and most here think Paul will move on after this year. If we get a verbal from Niels Lane, that might kill any possibility.

[Xuperman]

Atlanta Celtics won second game 70-56. Odom had 19 points on 9-9 shooting from the field.

WOW! Un-F-ing Believable!
We gonna have more "gangstas" in that locker room!!!

[Nigel Tufnel]

Atlanta Celtics won their first round tourney game 82-50 over Indiana Elite Blackout. Odom had 14 pts on 7-9 fgs, 5 assists, 4 steals and 2 rebounds. Their second round game is today at 5:45.

[GIMMFD]

Atlanta Celtics won their first round tourney game 82-50 over Indiana Elite Blackout. Odom had 14 pts on 7-9 fgs, 5 assists, 4 steals and 2 rebounds. Their second round game is today at 5:45.

Hmm, so that Odom guy actually IS pretty damn good huh? PS what I said about 247 holds true, Odom moves up to 60th in the composite, making him our 7th highest rated recruit, Wilcher moved up to 91st, and our 2020 class is the 5th best in the country with just these two so far. Scenes if we can get Carlson soon or someone of that caliber.

[Xuperman]

When Dwon Odom arrives on Victory Parkway, he will be the most accomplished and highest rated X recruit we've ever had. All indications are max positive and his 2020 national ranking can only go up.

Just noticed that Xavier is officially present at the Adidas Summer Championship in Birmingham. I suspect it is Coach Hayes representing X....The Steele recruiting machine is FRESH and hitting on ALL cylinders!!

[Nigel Tufnel]

Atlanta Celtics won second round game 73-52. Odom led all scorers with 21 pts on 10-14 shooting, 6 rebounds and 3 assists. Kid is efficient. Can’t wait to see him at X. They play tomorrow afternoon.

Here is a link to their team page. You can even follow the games live.

https://basketball.exposureevents.com/126449/adidas-boys-summer-championship/teams/atlanta-celtics?divisionteamid=1262273

Edit: Just realized Minnesota D1 is playing there with Ben Carlson. He is putting up good numbers as well. Just click on the menu tab and click on teams to follow them. You can also click on divisions to see the tourney bracket. They are both playing in the platinum bracket. Looks like both teams are 1 seeds.

[Xuperman]

Wow, to call his numbers “efficient” is an understatement. 32 of 44 at a .727 clip is dominant big man type numbers but he’s doing it either slashing to the rim or with mid range jumpers. He just doesn’t like to shoot the 3 ball. The other stats are equally impressive....a nearly 4:1 ast/to ratio to go with 9 steals in 116 minutes for the tournament.

Saturday’s 2 games set up nicely for the Celtics. Game 1 vs Upward Stars (SC) features 4 Star VT target Myles Tate and will have to contend with 4 Star Big PJ Hall but with a win there, I’m hoping they get Indiana Elite in game 2. They boast a pair of high IU targets, even though 4 Star sharpshooter Anthony Leal does hold an offer from X.

I really like this tournament. There is a ton of 2020 talent on display and the stats are detailed and readily available.....satisfies those off season BBall cravings.

[bobbiemcgee]

21 in victory over "stars".

[scoscox]

https://twitter.com/mm_andymac/status/1149508690770186240

good thread and info from andy mac and his "left-handed" source who I assume is Byron Larkin

[Xuperman]

21 in victory over "stars".

Odom was a little off his game vs the Indiana boys but still moves on to the F4 tomorrow. Would be cool if he meets Carlson and D1 Minnesota for the championship.

[noteggs]

Odom was a little off his game vs the Indiana boys but still moves on to the F4 tomorrow. Would be cool if he meets Carlson and D1 Minnesota for the championship.

Curious, is this where we should now post on 2020 recruits vs the one already created? Kind of silly to have two threads.

[usfldan]

Curious, is this where we should now post on 2020 recruits vs the one already created? Kind of silly to have two threads.

I think this thread is meant to be about players Xavier is recruiting, but have not committed.

The other thread ("Following our 2020 Recruits") is about players who have already committed to Xavier (Dwon Odom and CJ Wilcher, so far).

In the case of this AAU showcase with players committed and being recruited, the two can intersect.

[Xuperman]

It looks like the main difference is which “Forum” the 2 threads are in. Apparently the Musketeer Recruiting Forum was created to feature individual player threads. In this Forum (Men’s Basketball), it seems the thread conversation is 2020 recruiting news in general.

[Xuperman]

https://basketball.exposureevents.com/126449/adidas-boys-summer-championship/schedule

If it comes down to matchups, Odom and the Celtics have a tough out in the morning game for a shot at the Championship. Team Loaded (VA) features 6’7” PF Henry Coleman. He is a top 50 Four Star Virginia Cavalier target. They also have a fast rising 2020 prospect in 7’0” Jeriah Coleman to go along with slick 2021 PG Brayon Freeman.

If they can get past Team Loaded, it’s gonna be a helluva Championship game. Ben Carlson and D1 Minnesota have lost only 1 game all year on this circuit and Garner Road (NC) with Day’Ron Sharpe will be jacked for the rematch!

It has been a condensed 3 days of basketball with all those doubleheaders and I’m sure everyone is a bit fatigued. That certainly seemed to be the case with Odom in game 2 on Saturday. But win or lose Sunday, he has definitely left his mark here......done more than enough to garner Tournament MVP consideration.

[Xuperman]

You can statistically follow the game here.

https://basketball.exposureevents.com/126449/adidas-boys-summer-championship/gamecast?gameid=9825032&type=hoopstats

Odom an Co. started slow but quickly got back in it.

[noteggs]

I think this thread is meant to be about players Xavier is recruiting, but have not committed.

The other thread ("Following our 2020 Recruits") is about players who have already committed to Xavier (Dwon Odom and CJ Wilcher, so far).

In the case of this AAU showcase with players committed and being recruited, the two can intersect.

Okay that would make sense. Thanks!

[xufan02]

You can statistically follow the game here.

https://basketball.exposureevents.com/126449/adidas-boys-summer-championship/gamecast?gameid=9825032&type=hoopstats

Odom an Co. started slow but quickly got back in it.

Odom's squad up ten late. They will play in the championship game later today.

[xufan02]

Meanwhile Ben Carlson hits a shot at the buzzer to force overtime in his game.

[Xuperman]

Celtics will play for the Championship. Odom had a nice line....went off script a bit, hit all his FTs and added a clutch 3 ball!

[xukeith]

Any links to Ben's game stats?

[Xuperman]

Any of the previous links posted for this event should get you there but you may have to click and search some.....would love to get Ben but Stanford is still going after him hard.

[xufan02]

Odom had 20 in the championship game as his Atlanta Celtics team wins the Adidas Gauntlet.

[GIMMFD]

Okay that would make sense. Thanks!

Lmfao I was wondering the same thing as well man, trust me.


Odom had 20 in the championship game as his Atlanta Celtics team wins the Adidas Gauntlet.

In coming ratings bump, salivating for Odom to come to X, truly.

[Nigel Tufnel]

Sorry if I posted in the wrong thread...I was the one who started posting Adidas Gauntlet game summaries and links in this thread. Mea culpa. Laziness. But I did enjoy following the games and stats of future X players and recruits. During the slow summer months, it was a welcome distraction.

I am starting to think Odom is going to be super special. His efficiency against that high level of competition is amazing. He has a chance to be the best PG in X history...and that is really saying something.

Again...sorry if wrong thread.

[noteggs]

Sorry if I posted in the wrong thread...I was the one who started posting Adidas Gauntlet game summaries and links in this thread. Mea culpa. Laziness. But I did enjoy following the games and stats of future X players and recruits. During the slow summer months, it was a welcome distraction.

I am starting to think Odom is going to be super special. His efficiency against that high level of competition is amazing. He has a chance to be the best PG in X history...and that is really saying something.

Again...sorry if wrong thread.

I felt same way about posting on wrong thread lol. Personally thought your posts were great and nice to see links on Odom! He’s definitely a stud on this level and hopefully it translates.

[Xuperman]

Meanwhile Ben Carlson hits a shot at the buzzer to force overtime in his game.

Here’s the latest on Carlson.....Looks like it will be awhile if any good news is coming our way. Apparently his recruitment is evolving.

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/purdue/2019/07/14/recruiting-purdue-basketball-keeps-eye-minnesota-forward-ben-carlson/1729502001/

[xukeith]

Here’s the latest on Carlson.....Looks like it will be awhile if any good news is coming our way. Apparently his recruitment is evolving.

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/purdue/2019/07/14/recruiting-purdue-basketball-keeps-eye-minnesota-forward-ben-carlson/1729502001/

I saw an interview with him where he says he will make a decision in late August or September after he visits some schools.

[xukeith]

Twitter is going wild for Dwon Odom's school and teammate who was a 3 star recruit. I think his name is Caleb. X offered him a scholly 2-3 days a go.

[Xuperman]

Twitter is going wild for Dwon Odom's school and teammate who was a 3 star recruit. I think his name is Caleb. X offered him a scholly 2-3 days a go.

Yeah, Caleb Murphy got smoking hot over the weekend. He poured in 24 along with Odom's 20 to destroy GR(NC) Sunday. He got the knod over Dwon for All Tourney accolades.....Justin Doellman 2.0.

If Carlson strays, he will do nicely!!

[noteggs]

Yeah, Caleb Murphy got smoking hot over the weekend. He poured in 24 along with Odom's 20 to destroy GR(NC) Sunday. He got the knod over Dwon for All Tourney accolades.....Justin Doellman 2.0.

If Carlson strays, he will do nicely!!

Caleb was impressive at the tournament. However, can’t see how a 6’2” 170 lbs guard would be the next JD? IMO, we need someone at the 4 like Carlson (or others considered for that position) vs another guard at this point. Not to say Caleb (or guard) can’t fit, but not our biggest need at this time with this class.

[Xuperman]

Caleb was impressive at the tournament. However, can’t see how a 6’2” 170 lbs guard would be the next JD? IMO, we need someone at the 4 like Carlson (or others considered for that position) vs another guard at this point. Not to say Caleb (or guard) can’t fit, but not our biggest need at this time with this class.

IDK what I was thinking. No doubt the worst comparison in the history of this site. I got Murphy confused with Toneari Lane..... but still.

[xukeith]

Why did X offer him a scholarship if we have guards a plenty oral commits? Unless it is an insurance plan if Dwon and CJ change minds. I too think X needs a big post top 75 player now.

[scoscox]

IDK what I was thinking. No doubt the worst comparison in the history of this site. I got Murphy confused with Toneari Lane..... but still.

Lane's a guard as well. Only 6'5", so maybe small forward. you're all over the place lol

[Juice]

Why did X offer him a scholarship if we have guards a plenty oral commits? Unless it is an insurance plan if Dwon and CJ change minds. I too think X needs a big post top 75 player now.

They signed three in the 2019 class. Why do they need another? That's especially considering Naji and Paul are likely gone along with Quentin. They need wings and guards.

[scoscox]

Why did X offer him a scholarship if we have guards a plenty oral commits? Unless it is an insurance plan if Dwon and CJ change minds. I too think X needs a big post top 75 player now.

we lose a lot of guards next year. we probably need to sign at least one more in this class. i'd say he's more of an insurance policy if we don't get niels lane or colby jones.

[Xuperman]

Why did X offer him a scholarship if we have guards a plenty oral commits? Unless it is an insurance plan if Dwon and CJ change minds. I too think X needs a big post top 75 player now.

If Paul Scruggs decides to suit up as a Senior....no issues. It is after all a guard oriented college game. However if things shake out as expected, our backcourt experience will consist of 2 second year guys along with Dwon + CJ, barring anything crazy of course. That seems pretty thin in a guard heavy BEast, and who’s to say everything pans out. Had we added a sit 1 play 2 transfer like DJ Harvey all’s good, but as it stands, isn’t there 4 open slots for 2020? Expect Steele/staff to stay aggressive in landing another high 2020 guard.

[GoMuskies]

Xavier is apparently one of several teams getting involved with late-riser JJ Traynor. Guys like 'brew can tell you what an absolute legend his dad (Jason Osborne) was in Louisville. McDonalds All-American, can't miss NBA star, etc. etc. who essentially smoked and flunked his way out of UofL. Hopefully this kid has a better head on his shoulders than his dad (and perhaps his dad has spent the last 17 years telling this kid not to make the same mistakes he did), because if he has half the raw physical ability of his dad he could be a stud.

Side note in looking at the article: it's nice being in that second group of schools listed as coming in late on one of these kids instead of the first group where we used to be: getting in on these "hidden gems" early and trying to hold off the "big schools" once they figured out a kid could play.


https://247sports.com/college/louisville/Article/JJ-Traynor-Sleeper-Breakout-Player-Western-Kentucky-Cincinnati-Texas-Xavier-133676984/

[GIMMFD]

They signed three in the 2019 class. Why do they need another? That's especially considering Naji and Paul are likely gone along with Quentin. They need wings and guards.

Yup, I could see us taking 4-5 this class anyways, 3 guards and hopefully two big men, but we need AT LEAST 1 big man to commit, really hoping it's Carlson but who knows

[JTG]

Purdue and Wisky in on Carlson

[scoscox]

I like Carlson and Keon Ambrose. Hopefully we can get one of them

On a semi-related recruiting note: Check out this tweet
https://twitter.com/oneshiningpod/status/1151581934964789248

A huge chunk of the replies are "Xavier vs Kansas State" (or Xavier vs OSU). I think it's underrated how much that game did for our national profile even though we lost it. It's one of the most memorable tournament games in recent history.

[scoscox]

Also, JJ Traynor is a PF as well. And our 2021 targets are almost all big guys outside of malaki branham

[WCWIII]

Purdue's 1st choice is Hunter Dickinson and then Carlson. And I think Purdue has one scholy to give. It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out OR forget the B10. Let's get Xavier's 1st final four and beyond.

[XU 87]

Purdue's 1st choice is Hunter Dickinson and then Carlson. And I think Purdue has one scholy to give. It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out OR forget the B10, let's get Xavier's 1st final four and beyond.


Comma splice.

Sincerely,

Mrs. Mitchell

[Xuperman]

Now that Dwon's team won the Adidas Gauntlet, he has won that, a couple state championships in Georgia for basketball and a track and field state championship. Dude just wins.

https://basketball.exposureevents.com/129856/adidas-boys-gold-gauntlet-finale/game?gameid=9076458

Well he’s back in action, looking to add more hardware.....off to a good start in the Gauntlet Finale. The game was a close call but he tallied 15 points including a much improved 5-6 from the line. Up next the Iowa Barnstormers featuring 5’11” PG Bowen Born who holds an Iowa Hawkeyes offer.


Twitter is going wild for Dwon Odom's school and teammate who was a 3 star recruit. I think his name is Caleb. X offered him a scholly 2-3 days a go.

Caleb Murphy continues to score at a high clip with a game high 21. I did a little research on him but could not confirm an offer from Xavier. The 247 site shows several high D1 offers, including one from the Florida Gators just yesterday but no X. However there does seem to be a slight Xavier connection because MaxPreps shows him as playing for Norcross HS last year, the same team as Daniel Ramsey.

I just noticed Garner Road (NC), the team that the Odom and the Celtics beat twice last week including the Championship game, is coached by DAVID WEST! You just know that he gave Dwon a heartfelt “atta boy” afterwards :handshake:

[XUGRAD80]

Verbal Commits says that Caleb received an offer from X on July 16.

[Xuperman]

OK, that's a good thing. Hard to understand why these recruiting sites vary on their info.

I read where Xavier was present at the Adidas event last week and I assume it was Coach Hayes, as he seems to be the lead recruiter for all points south. He must have been really mpressed. Now that Murphy holds an offer from X to go along with Deivon Smith holding one as well, it appears Xavier likes the idea of pairing up one of these guys with Odom.......built in chemistry can be nothing but a plus.

[GIMMFD]

OK, that's a good thing. Hard to understand why these recruiting sites vary on their info.

I read where Xavier was present at the Adidas event last week and I assume it was Coach Hayes, as he seems to be the lead recruiter for all points south. He must have been really mpressed. Now that Murphy holds an offer from X to go along with Deivon Smith holding one as well, it appears Xavier likes the idea of pairing up one of these guys with Odom.......built in chemistry can be nothing but a plus.

I think it's Coach Hayes in the south, Dante in the north east, Ben Johnson is Minnesota area, and around through the mid west, with Steele in Indiana and then the closer on everyone right?? I don't mind the idea of picking one of Odom's teammates if we believe they can contribute at this level, if anything it could help strengthen Odom's commitment even more (not that there's any talk of him looking elsewhere), I like the idea personally.

[Xuperman]

https://www.exposuresportsnews.com/game/show/25907622?subseason=623450

Looks like Dwon Odom ended his AAU career with a thud.

Ben Carlson ends his as well, but on better terms with a game high 15.

[xufan02]

https://www.exposuresportsnews.com/game/show/25907622?subseason=623450

Looks like Dwon Odom ended his AAU career with a thud.

Ben Carlson ends his as well, but on better terms with a game high 15.

They both played more games including one head to head.

Odom had 10, 18, and 15, in 3 wins. (18 against Carlsons team).

Carlson scored 15 and 23 in two additional games. His team went 1-1 losing to Odom and the Celtics.

[Xuperman]

OK, I didn't see any consolation brackets yesterday morning. Glad to see him rebound from that 1-9 effort in Friday's loss. I first thought that maybe he twisted an ankle or something, so happy to see that he got thru these 2 weeks of Gauntlet action healthy.

[xudash]

https://bustingbrackets.com/2019/07/25/ncaa-basketball-10-programs-poised-land-elite-2020-recruiting-classes/

Good company!

[xufan02]

On paper we have four scholarships for next season, not three like the article mentions. I see the staff filling all four spots in the 2020 class, and then pursuing grad/traditional transfers after the end of the season. We will know the status of Paul and Naji pretty quick at the end of the season.

[Xuperman]

https://mobile.twitter.com/JordanGeronimo2

Fast rising 3 Star gets offered.

[xukeith]

Good X Dwon Odom article written by Adam Baum from enquirer.
Odom is very excited to come to X and says he and CJ are actively recruiting and expects commitments coming. Cool stuff.

[Xuperman]

Never been so X-cited about 2 High School guys!!

[xu82]

Never been so X-cited about 2 High School guys!!

Well.....I think I’m glad to hear that. :chin:

[XU 87]

In light of the Colby Jones commitment, Snow moved Niels Lane back to "undecided". I wonder if X will even keep recruiting him.

[Xuperman]

This is getting very interesting and an excellent line of discussion as we wait for November.

I wonder if Coach and staff are actively recruiting under the idea that Paul and Naj are moving on in 2020. I know most here believe that’s the case but the only people that really know are Paul, Naj and others close to the program. I like to think that at least 1 will stay like Winston did for MSU.

Anyway, if both leave that has us with 7 rostered scholarship players and the 3 incoming 2020’s. With Jones gone, a transfer “BIG” seems to be a given with possibly another transfer for experience depending on how our 5 frosh develop this season. You’re right, Neils Lane is now unlikely and the focus will be adding frontcourt guys with BEast size.

[94GRAD]

In light of the Colby Jones commitment, Snow moved Niels Lane back to "undecided". I wonder if X will even keep recruiting him.

I read somewhere X and Lane have parted ways

[XU 87]

I read somewhere X and Lane have parted ways

I think this recruitment ended when Colby announced. Same with the recruit out in California.

[noteggs]

Same with the recruit out in California.

Yup saw on Twitter Jaylen Clark canceled his August 16 visit.

[XU 87]

Yup saw on Twitter Jaylen Clark canceled his August 16 visit.

That scheduled visit is the reason Colby committed yesterday.

[bobbiemcgee]

4 star Jalen Bridges visiting 9/14.

[Xuperman]

4 star Jalen Bridges visiting 9/14.

THAT IS PRECISELY the guy we need to compliment the 3 2020’s......I feel Carlson is wavering a bit.

[IM4X]

THAT IS PRECISELY the guy we need to compliment the 3 2020’s......I feel Carlson is wavering a bit.

I don’t know if I’d go that far... I certainly wouldn’t count him out of the equation. While he is not rushing to pull the trigger, the 3 commits seem to have a pretty good relationship with him. Either Carlson or Bridges would certainly fit in nicely.

[Xuperman]

Unfortunately on some recruiting sites, Stanford has taken the lead on Carlson. He has stated that he’s in no hurry to commit....might be a long wait on his decision. Would be awesome if Bridges will make his choice X and take away some of the drama.

[IM4X]

Maybe everyone saw this on Twitter yesterday (didn’t see it posted anywhere on this board).

Jake
@jakeweingarten
Spoke with Ben Carlson tonight, told me that Jones has already reached out to him after he announced his commitment earlier today. Carlson is currently in the process of planning his visits.

[GIMMFD]

THAT IS PRECISELY the guy we need to compliment the 3 2020’s......I feel Carlson is wavering a bit.

WVU had a feeling they were going to get him, he played at Fairmont which is 15 minutes down the road, but Bridges has had some problems with WVU fans on Twitter and what not, so it's not as clear as it once looked, I'd love to get him to compliment Odom and Wilcher however, he looks like he has a good feel for the game, and would be an excellent addition to the class.

[xukeith]

4 star Jalen Bridges visiting 9/14.

I remember a while back Ben Carlson said he was scheduling a September visit to X.
Anyone know that estimated date? If both he and Bridges came back to back, it would be interesting if the first one who commits got the scholarship offered in this competitive recruiting scene.

[Juice]

I remember a while back Ben Carlson said he was scheduling a September visit to X.
Anyone know that estimated date? If both he and Bridges came back to back, it would be interesting if the first one who commits got the scholarship offered in this competitive recruiting scene.

Carlson has an official scheduled in the next few weeks.

[xukeith]

Carlson has an official scheduled in the next few weeks.

No pressure but since Odom came to Jone's visit, it would be cool (and expensive), if Jones, Wilcher and/or Odom came to Carlson's official visit.

[xufan02]

Carlson visits the last weekend in August. Odom still has his senior official visit, so I would imagine he could be up that weekend too.

[xufan2020]

Unfortunately on some recruiting sites, Stanford has taken the lead on Carlson. He has stated that he’s in no hurry to commit....might be a long wait on his decision. Would be awesome if Bridges will make his choice X and take away some of the drama.
There’s only a small group of analysts on 247 whose crystal balls you should take seriously. Mainly Brian Snow (Xavier’s best analyst) and Evan Daniels. Snow has stated for awhile on 247 that Xavier (probably in the lead) and Purdue are the two programs at the top of Carlson’s list.

[XU 87]

There’s only a small group of analysts on 247 whose crystal balls you should take seriously. Mainly Brian Snow (Xavier’s best analyst) and Evan Daniels. Snow has stated for awhile on 247 that Xavier (probably in the lead) and Purdue are the two programs at the top of Carlson’s list.

Snow is usually very accurate. He picked Niels Lane to come to X, and I am under the impression that would have happened had not Jones committed. Jones was the priority. Nice position to be in when you're choosing between two 4 stars.

[Murph85]

Snow is usually very accurate. He picked Niels Lane to come to X, and I am under the impression that would have happened had not Jones committed. Jones was the priority. Nice position to be in when you're choosing between two 4 stars.

This is apparently true. They really wanted Jones despite the ranking being a bit lower.

X is said to be in great position for Carlson.

[scoscox]

Apparently Colby will be moving up a decent amount in the next update

[xukeith]

Listened to D and V podcast . The 3 guys talked a lot about this 2019-20 recruiting class and said 2014 class was the best with Bluiett, Macura, Sumner, O'Mara and a top 100 guy whose name is not on my list. They mentioned Odom is the best of this class BUT he is no "Bluiett".

If X does not get Carlson or the other 6'7 post guy visiting soon, they believe Steele will bank on a grad transfer.

[Xuperman]

https://danaandvictorypodcast.podbean.com/e/dana-victory-podcast-ep-136-colby-jones-commits-spanish-trip-recap/

Yeah, they were making a speculative comparison with the 2020-21 class to the 2014 guys but but no mention of how they would compare them to this years freshman. A 2000 pt scorer in this group is highly unlikely (as with the 2020 guys as well), so probably no Trevon but definitely see JP numbers for several of them. When all is said and done both of Steele’s classes should easily challenge 2014.

I was surprised to hear no real concern about needing more LEGIT size at the 5. Obviously we’re pretty set with 6’9” type guys but the BEast is/will be loaded with much more height/length. They joke that the more weight Jones looses, the shorter he gets....looks 6’5”in braids. Granted, Tyrique takes a back set to no one regardless, but can’t see Carter being effective in the post against Yurt7 or even Smits for that matter. A developed Miles is more in line with what’s needed but it looks like a true 5 transfer is likely for team 99.

[xufan02]

https://danaandvictorypodcast.podbean.com/e/dana-victory-podcast-ep-136-colby-jones-commits-spanish-trip-recap/

Yeah, they were making a speculative comparison with the 2020-21 class to the 2014 guys but but no mention of how they would compare them to this years freshman. A 2000 pt scorer in this group is highly unlikely (as with the 2020 guys as well), so probably no Trevon but definitely see JP numbers for several of them. When all is said and done both of Steele’s classes should easily challenge 2014.

I was surprised to hear no real concern about needing more LEGIT size at the 5. Obviously we’re pretty set with 6’9” type guys but the BEast is/will be loaded with much more height/length. They joke that the more weight Jones looses, the shorter he gets....looks 6’5”in braids. Granted, Tyrique takes a back set to no one regardless, but can’t see Carter being effective in the post against Yurt7 or even Smits for that matter. A developed Miles is more in line with what’s needed but it looks like a true 5 transfer is likely for team 99.

Assuming we land Ben Carlson we will have 5 players over 6'8 to play the 4 and 5 respectively. The game has been moving that way for over 10 years now. Who was Villanova's 7 foot center when they won two national championships? Virginia had one 6'11 guy, but positional size elsewhere. You don't need a fleet of 7 footers to win.

[Xuperman]

Speaking only of BEast play as it is CURRENTLY rostered this year and next with some match up concerns in the post. Nothing that athletism and shooting can't over come but I can think of several BE teams that have a noticeable advantage in that one key area. Just would be nice to match height/length, when needed, if exposed in conference play. Outside of the BEast and in the dance is usually a different situation.

[Xuperman]

However, this line of discussion is a good chance to point out an observation. Not to be Capt Obvious here but Coach Steele has already established a pattern with his recruiting. Of the 8 HS guys so far, Tandy comes in the shortest at 6'1". Odom is a true PG but has real good size and is physically imposing already. All the others have enough size to cover multiple positions.....some versatile enough to play both front and back court. The 2 other likely targets fit that description as well. So, from the outside looking in, it appears that Coach has a very well conceived system in mind. Something like the Nova template that you mentioned.

[xufan02]

However, this line of discussion is a good chance to point out an observation. Not to be Capt Obvious here but Coach Steele has already established a pattern with his recruiting. Of the 8 HS guys so far, Tandy comes in the shortest at 6'1". Odom is a true PG but has real good size and is physically imposing already. All the others have enough size to cover multiple positions.....some versatile enough to play both front and back court. So, from the outside looking in it appears that Coach has a very conceived system in mind. Something like the Nova plan as you mentioned.

This is the point. Xavier wants to switch 1-5 on defense just like Nova. Not a lot of 6'11 or 7' guys have the agility and foot speed to do this.

[Xuperman]

No argument here. Again it's just the the league has added a ridiculous amount of the real tall timber....very unusual for the conference landscape to change that drastically in 1 off season. Because of that, there's a concern that we may see a few more "@ SHU last year" situations, where Gill's size altered the outcome.


Who was Villanova's 7 foot center when they won two national championships?

Daniel Ochefu in 2016

[bobbiemcgee]

Ben Carlson visiting (official) next weekend.


Minnesota on the 29th (Unofficial)
Xavier the 30-31 (Official)
Wisconsin Sept 7-8 (Official)
Purdue Sept 14-15 (Official)
ISU Sept 24th-25th (Unofficial)
Stanford sept 27-28 (Official)


Final 6

[scoscox]

Gonna have to pull out all the stops

[xu82]

Ben Carlson visiting (official) next weekend.


Minnesota on the 29th (Unofficial)
Xavier the 30-31 (Official)
Wisconsin Sept 7-8 (Official)
Purdue Sept 14-15 (Official)
ISU Sept 24th-25th (Unofficial)
Stanford sept 27-28 (Official)


Final 6

I admit to some bias, and I’d like to be last on the schedule, but if I’m a basketball player high on education, Xavier looks like a seriously strong option from that list.

[GIMMFD]

I admit to some bias, and I’d like to be last on the schedule, but if I’m a basketball player high on education, Xavier looks like a seriously strong option from that list.

Definitely, Purdue isn't a slouch either, and obviously Stanford is Stanford, it was nice to see Daniel Ramsey on Twitter actively trying to recruit Carlson and telling him to come to the X! Hopefully we can blow him away during his visit, and he can see how special this class could be if he chooses to be the 4th member added.

[bleedXblue]

Definitely, Purdue isn't a slouch either, and obviously Stanford is Stanford, it was nice to see Daniel Ramsey on Twitter actively trying to recruit Carlson and telling him to come to the X! Hopefully we can blow him away during his visit, and he can see how special this class could be if he chooses to be the 4th member added.

Stanford isn't a BBall school.....I think it comes down to us and Purdue....... Lafayette, IN is a shit hole

[noteggs]

Wow just saw on Twitter that Odom is coming in for his official this weekend which is same time as Carlson’s visit. Sounds like serious push for Ben. Hopefully they have some strong chemistry and can even enjoy the fireworks!

[xu82]

Wow just saw on Twitter that Odom is coming in for his official this weekend which is same time as Carlson’s visit. Sounds like serious push for Ben. Hopefully they have some strong chemistry and can even enjoy the fireworks!

Odom is going to be a SERIOUS fan favorite before he ever suits up! This is all-time-cool for him to arrange!

[scoscox]

Gonna be interesting what affect Brannens recruiting at uc has on the shootout. He is basically recruiting all the same guys as travis especially locally.

This Carlson visit is exciting especially with dwon coming up. If travis can get him this weekend we should crown him immediately

[scoscox]

Unrelated but the replies to this tweet crack me up

https://twitter.com/slrussell/status/1166769611259252736

One guy tries to insinuate it may be a recruiting violation lol and these are the same people that say Xavier fans are obsessed.

Nothing will beat when we flew to Nashville and uc drove and thought we were committing a violation and then found out it was just because they were too cheap to fly

[novachap]

Man, you guys are killing it on the recruiting front... congrats on a great class(es)!

[GoMuskies]

Unrelated but the replies to this tweet crack me up

https://twitter.com/slrussell/status/1166769611259252736

One guy tries to insinuate it may be a recruiting violation lol and these are the same people that say Xavier fans are obsessed.

Nothing will beat when we flew to Nashville and uc drove and thought we were committing a violation and then found out it was just because they were too cheap to fly

Why would someone post pictures of Nippert Stadium as a response to that tweet? They're aware that Xavier doesn't have a football team, right? And that we're more than fine with that? I mean, Nippert is a cute soccer stadium, and it's nice that the local soccer dudes let UC football play there, but what does that have to do with Travis Steele's office?

[muskiefan82]

Man, you guys are killing it on the recruiting front... congrats on a great class(es)!

We are trying to follow the Villanova model....

[Muskie in dayton]

Why would someone post pictures of Nippert Stadium as a response to that tweet? They're aware that Xavier doesn't have a football team, right? And that we're more than fine with that? I mean, Nippert is a cute soccer stadium, and it's nice that the local soccer dudes let UC football play there, but what does that have to do with Travis Steele's office?

I think they were making fun of UC for not having fans for their football team. Or maybe not having a real football team?

[scoscox]

No it was a uc fan. They honestly think we’re jealous of a 30000 seat Mac level stadium that they can’t even sell out

[noteggs]

Kinda sad since they have 45,000 students.

[XUBison]

Why would someone post pictures of Nippert Stadium as a response to that tweet? They're aware that Xavier doesn't have a football team, right? And that we're more than fine with that? I mean, Nippert is a cute soccer stadium, and it's nice that the local soccer dudes let UC football play there, but what does that have to do with Travis Steele's office?

During their game last night against UCLA, one of the broadcasters commented that there are people who refer to Nippert Stadium as the Wrigley Field of college football. Granted, he didn’t say this himself, merely pointed out that others have said it. I know they have put some lipstick on that pig, but talk about ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Must have been Jim Gaffigan who was doing the color commentary, because even my nine-year-old son was laughing at that one. Might even be funnier than their ”P6” delusion. It’s a fascinating marketing strategy… Just declare whatever you want, and hope no one ever contradicts you.

[xu82]

Kinda sad since they have 45,000 students.

Don’t forget the gazillions of alum who couldn’t give a rip either!

[bobbiemcgee]

Favorite? Hope so.

https://bustingbrackets.com/2019/08/27/ncaa-basketball-recruiting-analyzing-ben-carlsons-final-six/

[scoscox]

I have no idea who coaches stanford

[Murph85]

The whole team with families were a Next Chapter in Mt. Adams last night. I don’t think Carlson was among them at this point, 7-9. Maybe they met up later.

Getting this guy would be HUGE. Like take us to next level huge.

On a separate note a reasonable a UC friend, a rarity I know, expressed how envious/jealous the kitten fan base is with our incoming talent. They can’t understand why the top players would chose X.

[Muskie in dayton]

I have no idea who coaches stanford
Mike Montgomery. At least that’s who it was the last time they were relevant.

[muskienick]

Mike Montgomery. At least that’s who it was the last time they were relevant.

Actually, the Stanford coach is a guy named Jerod Haase. He previously served as head coach at UAB.

[bleedXblue]

The whole team with families were a Next Chapter in Mt. Adams last night. I don’t think Carlson was among them at this point, 7-9. Maybe they met up later.

Getting this guy would be HUGE. Like take us to next level huge.

On a separate note a reasonable a UC friend, a rarity I know, expressed how envious/jealous the kitten fan base is with our incoming talent. They can’t understand why the top players would chose X.

they're not very smart then......geesh......great conference, great school, awesome arena etc etc

[scoscox]

Not to mention we win a lot. Really easy to understand.

[xudash]

If you think about it, we are about 2 to 3 generations now along since Xavier got its act back together in basketball and reestablished balance with UC.

Then we watched UC jump us to a major conference (BIG EAST). IMHO, that could have become a sustained problem for us vis-à-vis UC, but we were blessed in the fact that they had a total douche bag for a head coach.

Then the worst thing that could happen to UC happened to UC: their football aspirations harpooned their basketball program. The C7 finally said enough is enough. Xavier said “hell yeah”. The BE name was kept. Fox shows up with a truckload of cash. MSG is secured. And it all works and works very successfully.

UC has improved facilities and a respected brand, but it is stuck in conference affiliation hell. UC’s facilities improvements are primarily the result of private contributions. The last time I looked, their athletic budget was a mess. Obviously, Clifton has hoped for a while now that they could navigate their way into a major conference. I seriously do not see that happening. So, they are stuck and will be stuck for a while a long time.

We were looking up with little hope 40 years ago. Now, some of their fans can’t figure it out, while I believe some of their fans know all too well what the trend line is all about and it scares them to death.

I believe Travis is THE guy. He will help the ones that are not too sure in Clifton figure out the rest of it.

[Lloyd Braun]

Haase is a good coach and has had some success recruiting. Not sure we are in position yet to be putting Stanford down... it’s a great place as well.

[xudash]

It makes zero sense to put down Stanford.

Wonder how the visit is going.

[bleedXblue]

It makes zero sense to put down Stanford.

Wonder how the visit is going.

Agree.......but I am sure the campus is beautiful and the academics speak for themselves

[bobbiemcgee]

Wonder how the visit is going.

I'm sure they're picking him up from Jeff Ruby's about now, police chauffeured limo to the Airport and then a ride back home on the Concorde.

[xudash]

I'm sure they're picking him up from Jeff Ruby's about now, police chauffeured limo to the Airport and then a ride back home on the Concorde.

Nice. Not easy finding a working Concord these days.

[scoscox]

I hear Jeff Ruby’s is the place to be tonight...

[xudash]

I hear Jeff Ruby’s is the place to be tonight...

I do believe you are informed and knowledgeable.

Damn nice place to be....

[xukeith]

I hear Jeff Ruby’s is the place to be tonight...
Which restaurant? I’ve heard the one downtown is nice. Then again all the coaches favorite is the Precinct.

[scoscox]

The steakhouse downtown

[SkyWalker]

The steakhouse downtown

My wife and I celebrated our anniversary last year at the Precinct and the whole team was in the party room.

[xu82]

My wife and I celebrated our anniversary last year at the Precinct and the whole team was in the party room.

It must have made you and the wife feel good to have them all show up and support you like that! :-)

[GIMMFD]

Anybody have any updates from Carlson's visit? Hoping he was blown away by X, and Odom was recruiting him this weekend. Have a chance at some really impressive back to back classes, and Carlson would be a huge get for us.

[Xuperman]

Based on what we know, would it be fair to compare Carlson's skill set to Naji? OR is he closer to a Doellman potentially? I view him as a ZFree carbon copy.

[X Factor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQqIcsVx2KI

[sirthought]

Based on what we know, would it be fair to compare Carlson's skill set to Naji? OR is he closer to a Doellman potentially? I view him as a ZFree carbon copy.

My take is he's more like a David West high schooler with a better shot. Probably better interior defender than Dollman or Naji at this stage, and seems to be able to hit the three a bit. He can obviously dunk but that really depends on how the offense is set up to flow. He might actually handle the ball a bit better than Naji, but it's really hard to tell against his competition.

[DexterBailey84]

He can obviously dunk..

off one foot, or two?

[outsideobserver11]

I hear Jeff Ruby’s is the place to be tonight...

Random question, but is there a limit on how much $$ can be spent on recruits during these visits? Sorry if it was posted somewhere else already, I just haven't seen it and this made me wonder.

[Xuperman]

Random question, but is there a limit on how much $$ can be spent on recruits during these visits? Sorry if it was posted somewhere else already, I just haven't seen it and this made me wonder.

Precise details on this subject are very hard to come by....the guidelines must be available somewhere on the internet but good luck finding them.

There must be a "cap" on what can be spent on these official visits but we're talking alot of variables. For instance, let's say recruit A is from Indianapolis and can drive to campus and recruit B is from California and must fly. Obviously, this would be a huge difference in cost especially since family members are permitted to accompany the player. Does this mean recruit A can parlay the savings into a Precinct steak and the Hilton while recruit B has to settle for Skyline and Motel 6? IDK

[paulxu]

NCAA guideline:


During an official visit the college can pay for transportation to and from the college for the student-athlete, lodging and three meals per day for the student-athlete and his or her parents or guardians, as well as reasonable entertainment expenses including three tickets to a home sports event

"reasonable entertainment" is different in Louisville for example, than in Cincinnati.

[Xuperman]

Good one Paul!!!

But seriously, there has to be a more detailed set of guidelines to follow per NCAA rules but who knows were they can be found. A good assumption would be the the players itinerary would be submitted to the NCAA for approval in advance....a violation would be imposed if it's not adhered to. There has to be someone on this board that has been through the process and can shed some light on it for us.

[outsideobserver11]

UD often takes recruits to The Cheesecake Factory at the Greene. Nothing like giving the red carpet treatment at an overpriced chain restaurant.

That's what had me wondering though. If Xavier is taking kids to high end steakhouses then why is UD being so cheap? Easy answer is "it's UD, enough said" but didn't know if there was more to it.

[XU 87]

UD often takes recruits to The Cheesecake Factory at the Greene. Nothing like giving the red carpet treatment at an overpriced chain restaurant.

That's what had me wondering though. If Xavier is taking kids to high end steakhouses then why is UD being so cheap? Easy answer is "it's UD, enough said" but didn't know if there was more to it.

Back in the A-10 days, I once asked someone "close to the program", "Why can't UD get the quality of recruits similar to what Xavier gets?"

His response- "One reason is that X takes its recruits to Jeff Ruby's for dinner. UD takes theirs to Outback."

[scoscox]

Back in the A-10 days, I once asked someone "close to the program", "Why can't UD get the quality of recruits similar to what Xavier gets?"

His response- "One reason is that X takes its recruits to Jeff Ruby's for dinner. UD takes theirs to Outback."

That's wild if there's any truth to that. Kinda sad on UD's part. Maybe more of a commentary on Cincinnati > Dayton

[XUGRAD80]

I lived/worked in Dayton for 5 years (work transfer/promotion...not by choice) and it’s a nice enough town. Easy to get around in. A few decent restaurants and bars. Some nice neighborhoods. But it’s no Cincinnati. Cincinnati is a MAJOR League city in comparison. Professional sports, world class arts, HQ for some very major companies, lots and lots of job opportunities. It’s also right now ranked as one of the top cities in the country for millennials. TWO major universities with national reputations for sports and academics. A much larger airport with many more direct flights.

I won’t say that the city vs city thing is the major deciding point by all recruits, but it certainly has to play into it for some. Of course, when you compare basketball programs.....it’s a no contest. But hey, Dayton is a fairly nice little town. If that’s what you’re looking for. :whistle:

[xudash]

I lived/worked in Dayton for 5 years (work transfer/promotion...not by choice) and it’s a nice enough town. Easy to get around in. A few decent restaurants and bars. Some nice neighborhoods. But it’s no Cincinnati. Cincinnati is a MAJOR League city in comparison. Professional sports, world class arts, HQ for some very major companies, lots and lots of job opportunities. It’s also right now ranked as one of the top cities in the country for millennials. TWO major universities with national reputations for sports and academics. A much larger airport with many more direct flights.

I won’t say that the city vs city thing is the major deciding point by all recruits, but it certainly has to play into it for some. Of course, when you compare basketball programs.....it’s a no contest. But hey, Dayton is a fairly nice little town. If that’s what you’re looking for. :whistle:

And UD is a little program.

[muskiefan82]

I think the Cintas has a lot to do with it too. If X was still at the Gardens, or even downtown at the whatever they are going to call it now arena, I think things might have played out differently. Thank God those with vision took action when it mattered.

[Juice]

Back in the A-10 days, I once asked someone "close to the program", "Why can't UD get the quality of recruits similar to what Xavier gets?"

His response- "One reason is that X takes its recruits to Jeff Ruby's for dinner. UD takes theirs to Outback."

The Pine Club is right there. What the hell?

[xudash]

i think the cintas has a lot to do with it too. If x was still at the gardens, or even downtown at the whatever they are going to call it now arena, i think things might have played out differently. Thank god those with vision took action when it mattered.

+ one million!

[X-man]

The Pine Club is right there. What the hell?

The Pine Club totally sucks. Only take someone there if you DON'T want them to cone.

[paulxu]

The Pine Club is right there. What the hell?


The Pine Club totally sucks. Only take someone there if you DON'T want them to cone.

One of these things is not like the other.

[XUGRAD80]

I think the Cintas has a lot to do with it too. If X was still at the Gardens, or even downtown at the whatever they are going to call it now arena, I think things might have played out differently. Thank God those with vision took action when it mattered.

No doubt. In fact, The whole campus has improved so much in the last 4 decades that it is almost unrecognizable. Facilities we could only have dreamed about back in the dark ages pre-Cintas.

[noteggs]

No doubt. In fact, The whole campus has improved so much in the last 4 decades that it is almost unrecognizable. Facilities we could only have dreamed about back in the dark ages pre-Cintas.

Greg Christopher tweeted out blue prints to expand the gardens from the late 80’s. Thank goodness that plan was scrapped! Can you imagine what the campus would look like today if that happened.

[xudash]

Once the HUB is completed for its student recreation/athletics piece, they'll begin renovating O'Conner for the Olympic Sports teams. That will be a major contributor to upgrading those programs, although Andy Fleming and the swim coach have been doing stellar work with their existing resources. Same goes for the women's golf and tennis coaches at this point.

Beyond that, more good news will be coming down the pike.

It's not an exaggeration to state that the campus is almost unrecognizable. It's not finished becoming more unrecognizable since then.

[GIMMFD]

Once the HUB is completed for its student recreation/athletics piece, they'll begin renovating O'Conner for the Olympic Sports teams. That will be a major contributor to upgrading those programs, although Andy Fleming and the swim coach have been doing stellar work with their existing resources. Same goes for the women's golf and tennis coaches at this point.

Beyond that, more good news will be coming down the pike.

It's not an exaggeration to state that the campus is almost unrecognizable. It's not finished becoming more unrecognizable since then.

Yeah, I graduated in 2015, and was back up over Labor Day Weekend and even thought "whoa, this looks weird," pretty awesome for the new crop of Xavier students, and can do nothing but good things in terms of staying competitive athletically. It's amazing to me Flemming can pull in solid recruiting classes with the state of the locker rooms and what not at O'Connor, I can only imagine what he's going to be able to do when that gets a face lift. It's exciting to see the growth of Xavier, and all these things on campus. I think the university did well in utilizing the amount of land that was available.

[JTG]

Yeah, I graduated in 2015, and was back up over Labor Day Weekend and even thought "whoa, this looks weird," pretty awesome for the new crop of Xavier students, and can do nothing but good things in terms of staying competitive athletically. It's amazing to me Flemming can pull in solid recruiting classes with the state of the locker rooms and what not at O'Connor, I can only imagine what he's going to be able to do when that gets a face lift. It's exciting to see the growth of Xavier, and all these things on campus. I think the university did well in utilizing the amount of land that was available.
2015, ha ha ha... imagine the shock when you go back having graduated in 1972 ? It's like landing on a different planet.

[xudash]

2015, ha ha ha... imagine the shock when you go back having graduated in 1972 ? It's like landing on a different planet.

So, what was your first question/reaction:

1. What the hell happened to Ledgewood Avenue!

2. How did they pull off University Station!

3. Who moved the damn tennis courts? What is this newfangled O’Conner Sports Center all about!

[JTG]

So, what was your first question/reaction:

1. What the hell happened to Ledgewood Avenue!

2. How did they pull off University Station!

3. Who moved the damn tennis courts? What is this newfangled O’Conner Sports Center all about!

Actually I've been back for games almost every year, but the change is phenomenal. It looks nothing like it did even when my kids were there in the mid 90s. I'm just stunned at how nice everything is. Univ Station is probably one of the more spectacular improvements.

[bobbiemcgee]

When I left in '68, we played BB @ Schmidt, Husman's second year. There was the Wonder Bread day old plant/store across the street (great skateboarding down that hill), the Box co. that blew up on Cleanay and US Shoe on the other side. Pretty scary walk to Dana's (.15 cent draughts) and the Norwood Café late at night. And, of course, we had FOOTBALL.

[paulxu]

So, what was your first question/reaction:

Is Dana's still there?/Good!

Bobbie...those were the days.

[xudash]

Is Dana's still there?/Good!

Bobbie...those were the days.

Thank you Paul. Silly of me to forget that one.

[GIMMFD]

2015, ha ha ha... imagine the shock when you go back having graduated in 1972 ? It's like landing on a different planet.

Haha that was kind of my point to be honest, I thought campus was insanely different in 2011 when I arrived by just looking at pictures from the past, it was the second year of Fenwick being there, and all that jazz, University Station opened up my Senior or Junior year I think, and that was just weird, and then first time being back in 4 years just seeing all the new developments were really really cool, I couldn't even imagine the night and day difference from 1972, nor even fathom how exciting that must be to witness the growth of Xavier into what it is now.


When I left in '68, we played BB @ Schmidt, Husman's second year. There was the Wonder Bread day old plant/store across the street (great skateboarding down that hill), the Box co. that blew up on Cleanay and US Shoe on the other side. Pretty scary walk to Dana's (.15 cent draughts) and the Norwood Café late at night. And, of course, we had FOOTBALL.

Haha how were the football games, I've always wondered to be honest...

[scoscox]

I’ve only seen pictures but Corcoran stadium looks like it was pretty legit for a school like Xavier especially at that time

[paulxu]

Haha how were the football games, I've always wondered to be honest...

They were a helluva lot of fun.

[bobbiemcgee]

Carroll Williams to Danny Abramowicz (held a long time record with New Orleans for receiving) . We went 8-2 my soph. year, of course beating UC and VD. I think John Shinners (also played in the pros), BJ's Father-in-law, played on that team. Stands full of coolers then.

[xudash]

I’ve only seen pictures but Corcoran stadium looks like it was pretty legit for a school like Xavier especially at that time

It would have reminded you a little of Michigan Stadium on the Victory Parkway side, to the extent that when you walked through the main gate in the middle, you would come to the field side and find yourself looking down and up at that side's seating. It held under 20k, but had what I thought was a beautiful design with brick that matched the academic row buildings.

My freshman year ('74) was the first year without football. Given the circumstances and how things have transpired in college sports, we ended up making all the right decisions, but it was a damn shame to lose all that, and in my generation's case, have to watch that stadium crumble to the point of being demolished.

[Final4]

It certainly wasn't Notre Dame Stadium but there was just something kinda' cool how the stadium opened up in front of you as you came around the bend on Victory Parkway near Walnut Hills HS. And then to continue on Victory past Dana Ave you really got a good view of the entire stadium. Dropping football was the right decision but it still saddened me when the stadium came down.

[scoscox]

Almost wish they could’ve kept it and maybe used it for high school games or something just as a historic landmark, but I’m sure that wouldn’t make much sense from the Xavier perspective

[GoMuskies]

Almost wish they could’ve kept it and maybe used it for high school games or something just as a historic landmark, but I’m sure that wouldn’t make much sense from the Xavier perspective

Wichita State hasn't played football since 1986, but their on-campus stadium remains and is a venue for local high school football. Believe me, you don't want this. It's an eyesore, and anytime you go there you're pretty sure the place is going to collapse.

[JTG]

I wish the club football a few years back had succeeded. The games were fun to attend. You could sort of pretend X had real football, and the uniforms were pretty cool.

[paulxu]

Carroll Williams to Danny Abramowicz (held a long time record with New Orleans for receiving) . We went 8-2 my soph. year, of course beating UC and VD. I think John Shinners (also played in the pros), BJ's Father-in-law, played on that team. Stands full of coolers then.

Great year for X football. First loss was down in Chattanooga...my home town. We lost on a field goal to a freshman named Heggie Fererra, who I went to high school with. I don't even remember that; found out now by looking at yearbook.
Dickie Erosovich has to have brain injury from his tackling style.

Also Bobbie, I'm sure you guys were responsible for this Derby edict. We did not pay any attention to it:

https://www.exhibit.xavier.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://www.google.com/&httpsredir=1&article=3186&context=student_newspaper

[xudash]

Great year for X football. First loss was down in Chattanooga...my home town. We lost on a field goal to a freshman named Heggie Fererra, who I went to high school with. I don't even remember that; found out now by looking at yearbook.
Dickie Erosovich has to have brain injury from his tackling style.

Also Bobbie, I'm sure you guys were responsible for this Derby edict. We did not pay any attention to it:

https://www.exhibit.xavier.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://www.google.com/&httpsredir=1&article=3186&context=student_newspaper

Deplorable conduct! Very proud of you guys.

Many times in the 60's in Cincinnati there was a guy known as Lookout Mountain Paul who wore a lampshade on his head, loudly quoted René Descartes, and helped to make Dana's a Xavier Institution.

[XUGRAD80]

By the time the stadium was taken down, the stands had been condemned and closed off. Would have cost way to much money to fix them at that point. I did a lot of running up and down the stadium steps before they were closed off, though. You could almost feel the history when you walked into the place. It was the right decision, but I really wish they could have found an alternative, or a fairy godmother with a magic wand. :(.

[XUGRAD80]

Back on subject....

Zagsblog reports that Eugene Brown, 6-5 guard from Georgia is taking his second official visit to Xavier starting yesterday. He has already taken an official to Mississippi State and has others planned to OSU, Louisville, and others.

[72Muskie]

My classmate, one of six physics majors in 1972, player football for Xavier and went on to be CEO of a major computer company!

[scoscox]

Back on subject....

Zagsblog reports that Eugene Brown, 6-5 guard from Georgia is taking his second official visit to Xavier starting yesterday. He has already taken an official to Mississippi State and has others planned to OSU, Louisville, and others.

Interesting... I don’t know about 3 guys at the same position in one class

[XUBison]

Back on subject....

Zagsblog reports that Eugene Brown, 6-5 guard from Georgia is taking his second official visit to Xavier starting yesterday. He has already taken an official to Mississippi State and has others planned to OSU, Louisville, and others.

Weird... this article from a couple weeks ago says he left X off his final 6.

https://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/big-east-recruiting/2019/8/19/20812393/butler-is-in-four-star-2020-guard-eugene-brown-iiis-top-six-xavier-out-big-east-recruiting

[paulxu]

We almost derailed the sh$t outta this thread.

[Xville]

Weird... this article from a couple weeks ago says he left X off his final 6.

https://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/big-east-recruiting/2019/8/19/20812393/butler-is-in-four-star-2020-guard-eugene-brown-iiis-top-six-xavier-out-big-east-recruiting

Another 2/3 guy in the 2020 class seems excessive. I dont want to start any kind of rumor, but that seems odd to me.

[xukeith]

Weird... this article from a couple weeks ago says he left X off his final 6.

https://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/big-east-recruiting/2019/8/19/20812393/butler-is-in-four-star-2020-guard-eugene-brown-iiis-top-six-xavier-out-big-east-recruiting

Man, does X need more 4 star guards for next year?

[XUGRAD80]

Man, does X need more 4 star guards for next year?

Rivals has him....and Jones & Wilcher....listed as Small Forwards, not guards. But in today’s basketball there really isn’t much difference, is there?

Weird....Zagsblog doesn’t mention him visiting Butler. Is it possible that one of them has the schools mixed up?

[GIMMFD]

We almost derailed the sh$t outta this thread.

Yeah, but I really enjoyed the nostalgia and input from all of you guys, sounds like they were a blast to attend, as everyone else said, Xavier made the right decision, but I would have loved some tailgating and college football on Saturdays.


Man, does X need more 4 star guards for next year?

No, but do you say no to a 4 star? I think Steele will take any top talent that's interested, the way the game is transitioning to positionless basketball is also helpful for cases like this. It doesn't make the most sense in the world, and I'd rather have Carlson, but I'm not going to be upset if another 4 star wants to come on board.

[xufan02]

Eugene Brown is not visiting Xavier. Zagsblog is inaccurate.

[XUGRAD80]

Yeah, but I really enjoyed the nostalgia and input from all of you guys, sounds like they were a blast to attend, as everyone else said, Xavier made the right decision, but I would have loved some tailgating and college football on Saturdays.
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Which is exactly why I have season tickets and a tailgate spot for another universities FOOTBALL team. If X still had football, I wouldn’t have those and would have them for X. But why should I deny myself those experiences because of a decision made by X before I even got there? Sure, I do have to take some flak from my tailgating friends from time to time over my X connection, but it’s nothing I can’t handle. ��

[xukeith]

Eugene Brown is not visiting Xavier. Zagsblog is inaccurate.

Yeah. I know basketball is different now but great schools do need awesome big men to rebound, block shots and score inside. The guys from Dana nand Victory podcasts are paid to follow recruits and analyze X men. They said if X doesn’t get Bridges or Carlson, Steele would likely get a grad transfer.

[muskiefan82]

Which is exactly why I have season tickets and a tailgate spot for another universities FOOTBALL team. If X still had football, I wouldn’t have those and would have them for X. But why should I deny myself those experiences because of a decision made by X before I even got there? Sure, I do have to take some flak from my tailgating friends from time to time over my X connection, but it’s nothing I can’t handle. ��

I always have to explain why I have degrees from UC and Thomas More, but my office is wall to wall Xavier stuff. I just tell them I was raised right

[Xuperman]

Which is exactly why I have season tickets and a tailgate spot for another universities FOOTBALL team. If X still had football, I wouldn’t have those and would have them for X. But why should I deny myself those experiences because of a decision made by X before I even got there? Sure, I do have to take some flak from my tailgating friends from time to time over my X connection, but it’s nothing I can’t handle. ��

Talk about flak, you should see the blind hatred of UC football by some of our board members when I mentioned I was a big fan on HLOH. There are some here (no doubt Xavier alumns) that despise anything UC...right down to the women's tennis and golf!

But I am not a Xavier alumn. I'm just an anything Cincinnati guy and find it easy to be a staunch supporter of both programs. Having said that, my angst is laser focused on OSU football. Their fans arrogance is second to none and their "THE Ohio State" mantra infuriates me every time I hear it.....flat out disrespect for all other Ohio universities including Xavier. History can be made in about 24 hours!!

[GoMuskies]

This board has traditionally been a staunch ally of UC football. As a matter of fact, one of the more prominent members of this board even hired a plane to fly a banner over a UC football game.

[Xuperman]

This board has traditionally been a staunch ally of UC football. As a matter of fact, one of the more prominent members of this board even hired a plane to fly a banner over a UC football game.

I had no idea but nice to know. I always felt that most here are Buckeye fans. If ardent UC football fans are here, you wouldn't know it....only the haters pop up now and again. BUT this is a XU basketball board, so any football conversation is somewhat off topic (like now)... :overheated:

[Muskie in dayton]

I had no idea but nice to know. I always felt that most here are Buckeye fans. If ardent UC football fans are here, you wouldn't know it....only the haters pop up now and again. BUT this is a XU basketball board, so any football conversation is somewhat off topic (like now)... :overheated:

Yeah, I think someone didn’t use the sarcasm font. Let’s just say that banner wasn’t meant to excite the UC fan base.

Man this thread just can’t stay on topic.

[scoscox]

Talk about flak, you should see the blind hatred of UC football by some of our board members when I mentioned I was a big fan on HLOH. There are some here (no doubt Xavier alumns) that despise anything UC...right down to the women's tennis and golf!

But I am not a Xavier alumn. I'm just an anything Cincinnati guy and find it easy to be a staunch supporter of both programs. Having said that, my angst is laser focused on OSU football. Their fans arrogance is second to none and their "THE Ohio State" mantra infuriates me every time I hear it.....flat out disrespect for all other Ohio universities including Xavier. History can be made in about 24 hours!!

I’m definitely not a “big fan” but I don’t mind seeing them do well. Most of the kids are from local high schools and I like seeing them be successful

[SM#24]

Which is exactly why I have season tickets and a tailgate spot for another universities FOOTBALL team. If X still had football, I wouldn’t have those and would have them for X. But why should I deny myself those experiences because of a decision made by X before I even got there? Sure, I do have to take some flak from my tailgating friends from time to time over my X connection, but it’s nothing I can’t handle. ��

I agree which is why if I lived in Cincinnati I would be a season ticket holder for the Mount.

[xudash]

This board has traditionally been a staunch ally of UC football. As a matter of fact, one of the more prominent members of this board even hired a plane to fly a banner over a UC football game.

Legendary.

[Xuperman]

Yeah, I think someone didn’t use the sarcasm font. Let’s just say that banner wasn’t meant to excite the UC fan base.

Man this thread just can’t stay on topic.

There will be moments of highjack, BUT for the most part THIS is a basketball recruiting thread.

[Xuperman]

There will be moments of highjack, BUT for the most part THIS is a basketball recruiting thread.

I love UC football....just way too much invested to not be. Tomorrow is so BIG that words escape me. GO CATS!!!

[joe titan]

I love UC football....just way too much invested to not be. Tomorrow is so BIG that words escape me. GO CATS!!!

Not really a big game for UC; as LF said it's not a rivalry b/c play so infrequently and win/lose/draw OSU is gonna be the better team & program for the foreseeable future as the resources just do not compare. Sure if UC pulls an upset the headlines will explode, but both teams will still have the remainder of their conferences and beyond to define their seasons. Remember when UC upset Penn St ? Anything different now ?

[GoMuskies]

Not really a big game for UC; as LF said it's not a rivalry b/c play so infrequently and win/lose/draw OSU is gonna be the better team & program for the foreseeable future as the resources just do not compare. Sure if UC pulls an upset the headlines will explode, but both teams will still have the remainder of their conferences and beyond to define their seasons. Remember when UC upset Penn St ? Anything different now ?

It's....a pretty huge game for UC. If they win, they're in the driver's seat for the G5's bid to the major bowls and will be in the playoff hunt. And will be ranked in the top 10 on Sunday. All huge things.

[XUGRAD80]

I remember when UC beat Penn State, but it’s a totally different situation now. UC and OSU are competing for many of the same Ohio recruits now. While it’s not a disaster for UC if they lose, it will be a potential windfall if they win, and will certainly give the program a well deserved boost among the casual fan. It could also ultimately lead to a high profile end of the season bowl game, which can mean more money for the program, and much increased national coverage by the national sports media.

[scoscox]

It’s honestly a pretty dangerous game for Ohio state to play with a first year head coach. Not ideal for them. It wouldn’t shock me if the game was very competitive

[bleedXblue]

I remember when UC beat Penn State, but it’s a totally different situation now. UC and OSU are competing for many of the same Ohio recruits now. While it’s not a disaster for UC if they lose, it will be a potential windfall if they win, and will certainly give the program a well deserved boost among the casual fan. It could also ultimately lead to a high profile end of the season bowl game, which can mean more money for the program, and much increased national coverage by the national sports media.

Not really competing for the same Ohio kids. OSU is getting the top recruits. If you're a borderline mid/high D1 guy then maybe......

[X-man]

Any chance of talking basketball recruiting on this thread....which is ostensibly about such recruiting? I have little to no interest in college football but every time there is a new post to this recruiting thread, it is about f***king college football!This is an important time for our basketball recruiting. Ben Carlson, our top target who visited X last weekend, is visiting Wisconsin this weekend. We lead, along with Stanford, for him. It would be really sweet to get that fourth recruit locked up from the 2020 class.

[deepX]

Any chance of talking basketball recruiting on this thread....which is ostensibly about such recruiting? I have little to no interest in college football but every time there is a new post to this recruiting thread, it is about f***king college football!This is an important time for our basketball recruiting. Ben Carlson, our top target who visited X last weekend, is visiting Wisconsin this weekend. We lead, along with Stanford, for him. It would be really sweet to get that fourth recruit locked up from the 2020 class.

Dotto!

[xukeith]

Agree as this is a basketball board. Where is Ben Carlson visiting this weekend?
Rumors say its between X and Purdue.

[XUBison]

Anyway, back to the thread drift... UC getting crushed. You goofy guys who try to build up UC football just kill me.

[X-man]

Agree as this is a basketball board. Where is Ben Carlson visiting this weekend?
Rumors say its between X and Purdue.

247Sports has it between us and Stanford. Purdue just got a commitment from a big which might mean that Carlson is not expected to commit with them. And Carlson is at Wisconsin this weekend. Fans on their forum don't believe that Carlson is very likely for them.

[xukeith]

247Sports has it between us and Stanford. Purdue just got a commitment from a big which might mean that Carlson is not expected to commit with them. And Carlson is at Wisconsin this weekend. Fans on their forum don't believe that Carlson is very likely for them.

Well 247 says Wisconsin has Ben as a top target. Looking at Wisconsin's recruiting, the got a commitment from a guard ranked in the mid -300's. Why settle for that, I will never know.

[bobbiemcgee]

247Sports has it between us and Stanford. Purdue just got a commitment from a big which might mean that Carlson is not expected to commit with them. And Carlson is at Wisconsin this weekend. Fans on their forum don't believe that Carlson is very likely for them.

Not seeing any recent commit for the Boilers for 2020. Looks like they are done. They seem to think it's X and Stanford:

https://www.hammerandrails.com/2019/9/4/20848880/basketball-recruiting-preference

[xukeith]

Not seeing any recent commit for the Boilers for 2020. Looks like they are done. They seem to think it's X and Stanford:

https://www.hammerandrails.com/2019/9/4/20848880/basketball-recruiting-preference

Not sure if my source is reliable but Twitter tweeted "Talk about making a major push, after taking an official visit two weeks ago, Xavier will have full staff in tonight for four-star senior Ben Carlson, a source told "

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[noteggs]

Steele tweeted out that he was headed to Newark first and assume he’s checking on CJ. I saw same on heading to Minneapolis after.

[xukeith]

Ryan James
@RyanJamesMN
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1h
4-star PF Ben Carlson will have the full Xavier staff at open gym tonight, Matt Painter of Purdue meets with
@bencarlson23
tomorrow & the Minnesota staff will be at East Ridge HS on Wednesday morning

[noteggs]

See a lot of Kalkbrenner CB’s for Purdue along with Snow’s. Not sure if they have the room for both. Who knows? Strange how many recruits we’re competing with Purdue over the last year year or two.

[Lloyd Braun]

Would really love Carlson.... I dont know why but I feel like the tea leaves are not lining up for us. Entire coaching staff there seems like a Hail Mary...

[scoscox]

Agreed

[XavierRunningMan]

Would really love Carlson.... I dont know why but I feel like the tea leaves are not lining up for us. Entire coaching staff there seems like a Hail Mary...

2020 Millard North (NE) F Max Murrell has committed to Stanford.

👀🤔🙏🏼

[xufan02]

See a lot of Kalkbrenner CB’s for Purdue along with Snow’s. Not sure if they have the room for both. Who knows? Strange how many recruits we’re competing with Purdue over the last year year or two.

Kalkbrenner to Purdue would be big for Xavier. It would put Purdue at 13 on the books for next season. Painter traditionally does not oversign.

[xudash]

Would really love Carlson.... I dont know why but I feel like the tea leaves are not lining up for us. Entire coaching staff there seems like a Hail Mary...

Well, if the glass is half full, perhaps it’s a confident move, investing full-push resources to help seal the deal.

[xufan02]

2020 Millard North (NE) F Max Murrell has committed to Stanford.

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Stanford is taking multiple bigs in 2020. I doubt this has an impact with Stanford recruiting Carlson.

[xufan02]

Well, if the glass is half full, perhaps it’s a confident move, investing full-push resources to help seal the deal.

Xavier is taking a big swing here. Full staff on opening day is a strong to very strong move. I also think this recruitment is going to the distance though. Carlson will likely go through the entire visit process. I hope I'm wrong.

[Xuperman]

Loosing out on Carlson would not be a complete heartbreaker. Granted, he looks like a “can’t miss” prospect, but we already have 2 guys with similar skill sets for 2020 in Jason and Zach. Throw in DJ and Ramsey to a lesser extent because it’s unknown what they can bring.

Interesting that there doesn’t seem to be much concern in bringing in more legit size for team 99. Does anyone really want to see Carter or Freemantle at 6’9” working the paint as a starter in the BEast? Especially on defense. How about a possible redshirt freshman?

Not much on the radar for any 2020 prospects that fit the bill, so I have a feeling if there’s another Hankins/Stainbrook or even a Kantner type transfer out there it’s gonna happen. Of course getting anyone of that quality is wishful thinking.

[xukeith]

Loosing out on Carlson would not be a complete heartbreaker. Granted, he looks like a “can’t miss” prospect, but we already have 2 guys with similar skill sets for 2020 in Jason and Zach. Throw in DJ and Ramsey to a lesser extent because it’s unknown what they can bring.

Interesting that there doesn’t seem to be much concern in bringing in more legit size for team 99. Does anyone really want to see Carter or Freemantle at 6’9” working the paint as a starter in the BEast? Especially on defense. How about a possible redshirt freshman?

Not much on the radar for any 2020 prospects that fit the bill, so I have a feeling if there’s another Hankins/Stainbrook or even a Kantner type transfer out there it’s gonna happen. Of course getting anyone of that quality is wishful thinking.

Perhaps in 2020-21, the staff is putting high hopes on Deonte Miles - 6'10 or 6'11 jumping jack.

[Lloyd Braun]

Stanford is taking multiple bigs in 2020. I doubt this has an impact with Stanford recruiting Carlson.

I thought this initially but looking at their profiles they are pretty similar players. Hmm

[scoscox]

Just got a snow globe for carlson. Good sign. We had one for Niels lane as well so it’s not foolproof but he typically gets his info straight from the coaching staff and player I think

[scoscox]

I wouldn’t be surprised if he takes all of his visits before he commits still though. Hope I’m wrong and he commits today but he seems intent on honoring his visits

[X-man]

Just got a snow globe for carlson. Good sign. We had one for Niels lane as well so it’s not foolproof but he typically gets his info straight from the coaching staff and player I think

Cautiously hopeful on Carlson. While I don't have access to Brian Snow's predictions, it is easy to infer that he just predicted this morning that Carlson will come to X. Snow is pretty good as a forecaster in these things and with the recent Stanford commit of a big, it would seem to bode well for the Muskies. Getting Carlson would mean a really stellar class coming in next season on top of the stellar one this year. Steele and his staff are killing it.

[Xuperman]

Perhaps in 2020-21, the staff is putting high hopes on Deonte Miles - 6'10 or 6'11 jumping jack.

No doubt Keith, Coach Steele has made it clear that Miles is ALREADY that based on his Spain performance. The only thing he did not comment on is whether it will be this year or next. Under the circumstances I'm hoping Coach will forego any red shirt and get him acclimated this year, so he can build toward an increased roll in the fall of 2020.......regardless of the roster.

[bobbiemcgee]

WOW! Crystal ball has shifted to X 67%

https://247sports.com/PlayerInstitution/Ben-Carlson-at-East-Ridge-194502/CurrentExpertPredictions/