2020 Recruits

[noteggs]

If we can just get a few more scouting services into the mix, he'll be 6'6" by the time he hits campus.

That’s funny! Well done.

[Xuperman]

CoJo posts 27/13 and is easy Tourney MVP as Mountain Brook HS cruises to the Arby's Classic Championship.

http://www.arbysclassic.net/news.html

Dwon Odom and St Francis stumbles in the Beach tournament but he continues to stuff the stat sheet.

[paulxu]

Odom's team lost to the eventual tournament winner Dorman, from here in Spartanburg.
First win for a South Carolina team at this tournament in over 30 years. It's a pretty big tournament.

Odom did score 22 in the loss, including 3-3 on 3pt shots. (Can he suit up now?)
The Dorman team has two major commits, one of whom is headed to Butler (Myles Tate).

[noteggs]

Nice little write up on Colby. Looks like we got a well rounded young man.

https://twitter.com/BuckyBasketball/status/1217394707074093056

[XU_Lou]

Tweet from Shannon the other day:

Two of @XavierMBB's Class of 2020 commits are McDonald's All American Game nominees: @CJWilcher and @dwonodom1

As a caveat, the list of nominees is quite long, however, I don't remember any past recruits making the list (could be wrong on that): https://www.mcdonaldsallamerican.com/content/dam/aag/2020_McDAAG_Nominees_List.pdf

[AviatorX]

Tweet from Shannon the other day:

Two of @XavierMBB's Class of 2020 commits are McDonald's All American Game nominees: @CJWilcher and @dwonodom1

As a caveat, the list of nominees is quite long, however, I don't remember any past recruits making the list (could be wrong on that): https://www.mcdonaldsallamerican.com/content/dam/aag/2020_McDAAG_Nominees_List.pdf

I think if you play varsity basketball and your coach remembers to submit your name, you make this list.

[scoscox]

https://twitter.com/BuckyBasketball/status/1217394707074093056

this could've also been filed under the "tweets you love to read" thread

[Juice]

Tweet from Shannon the other day:

Two of @XavierMBB's Class of 2020 commits are McDonald's All American Game nominees: @CJWilcher and @dwonodom1

As a caveat, the list of nominees is quite long, however, I don't remember any past recruits making the list (could be wrong on that): https://www.mcdonaldsallamerican.com/content/dam/aag/2020_McDAAG_Nominees_List.pdf

Sumner, Blueitt, and Makinde were all nominees in their class. Tyrique and Quentin were as well. I'm pretty sure a lot of our guys have been nominees.

[UCGRAD4X]

https://twitter.com/BuckyBasketball/status/1217394707074093056

this could've also been filed under the "tweets you love to read" thread

Great comments by his mom.

I especially like the "intelligent" comments...sorely needed.

[paulxu]

Here's 4 minutes of a guy who can apparently make a 3.
And 5 minutes of interview. It seems that Steele likes to facetime at midnight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDnh5nYgIJA

[Xuperman]

It's a perfect time to post something positive. All 3 of our 2020s are moving up with a lightning bolt in the updated Rivals 150. CoJo cracks the top 100. So how about we go easy on the vipered criticism of Coach Steele until his solid recruiting takes hold....looking at you Xville.

https://n.rivals.com/prospect_rankings/rivals150/2020

Also, according to a Brian Snow write up yesterday, X in on several Mid West 2021 prospects on the rise including 2 local kids....Lakota East SG Nate Johnson looks BEast ready and the Moel!er Big would be a nice fit for the frontcourt needs down the line.

https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/ContentGallery/Basketball-Recruiting-Iowa-Hawkeyes-Tony-Perkins-Logan-Duncomb-Indiana-Hoosiers-Xavier-Musketeers-Ohio-State-Buckeyes-Pierre-Brooks-143063788/#1362747_1

https://www.wcpo.com/sports/high-school-sports/lakota-east-boys-basketball-team-is-4-0-for-the-first-time-since-2012

It's likely the "Core 4" era is coming to an end. If that's the case, there is clear separation because of the Mack lost class. With Carter, James, Hanson as the only returning upper classmen, we're basically in a legit rebuild. Just keep stacking up high quality talent and things get back to normal quickly.

[Xville]

It's a perfect time to post something positive. All 3 of our 2020s are moving up with a lightning bolt in the updated Rivals 150. CoJo cracks the top 100. So how about we go easy on the vipered criticism of Coach Steele until his solid recruiting takes hold....looking at you Xville.

https://n.rivals.com/prospect_rankings/rivals150/2020

Also, according to a Brian Snow write up yesterday, X in on several Mid West 2021 prospects on the rise including 2 local kids....Lakota East SG Nate Johnson looks BEast ready and the Moel!er Big would be a nice fit for the frontcourt needs down the line.

https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/ContentGallery/Basketball-Recruiting-Iowa-Hawkeyes-Tony-Perkins-Logan-Duncomb-Indiana-Hoosiers-Xavier-Musketeers-Ohio-State-Buckeyes-Pierre-Brooks-143063788/#1362747_1

https://www.wcpo.com/sports/high-school-sports/lakota-east-boys-basketball-team-is-4-0-for-the-first-time-since-2012

Steele deserves every ounce of criticism he received on the Marquette game. With that said,IBM excited for this class.

[Xuperman]

Only a proportional share and, maybe, less of an edge. How about somebody making a FT!

[Xville]

Only a proportional share and, maybe, less of an edge. How about somebody making a FT!

Telling someone how to fan is about as dumb as expecting tyrique to suddenly start making a high percentage of fts

[Xuperman]

I said maybe, but let's not derail the thread.

[bleedXblue]

I'm convinced of two things:

1. The mojo on this team is not good. Don't know why....sometimes it just ends up that way.

2. We hired a guy with no HC experience. NONE. Doesn't mean he's the wrong guy..........but we should have expected some of this. It sucks. We are spoiled. Just hoping Steele figures it out.........and we don't have to start over. That could be really painful for the program.

[IM4X]

I'm convinced of two things:

1. The mojo on this team is not good. Don't know why....sometimes it just ends up that way.

2. We hired a guy with no HC experience. NONE. Doesn't mean he's the wrong guy..........but we should have expected some of this. It sucks. We are spoiled. Just hoping Steele figures it out.........and we don't have to start over. That could be really painful for the program.

Response to # 1

Agree about the mojo being no good, but I also think there are things Steel can do (that he is not currently doing) to get his players to find a more singular rhythm for them all to move to and feel more in sync with each other... and more

We have almost always hired a guy with no HC experience and it has worked out for us. To address your point, Mack and Miller went through some struggles as they adjusted to their new role as HC.

Coaches who are new at the HC position particularly struggle if they do not have talented assistants surrounding them whose skills compliment theirs. I am not sure how helpful most of Steele’s assistants are when it comes to game day situations and strategies. I don’t recall seeing Steele discussing much with any assistant other than Graves (who does have head coaching experience and has been part of a winning program). For my money, I want to have coaches who have been part of programs that are proven winners (whether that be as an assistant or a HC). Winners don’t just want to win, they have it in their blood and feel they ought to always be winning.

Which current assistants under Steele came from a program that is known for a having a winning tradition in college hoops? Not his first two hires. Those seem to be guys hired for their recruiting abilities. It makes sense why Travis went after Graves. Not only did he know him, but more importantly he was an assistant at Butler when the team went to back to back NCAA Championship games. I just don’t know what he did for that team and whether or not his skills compliment Steele’s or if they are the same (redundant) set of skills. Still, he was a coach that was pretty special, working closely with Brad Stevens. That’s gotta be worth something.

[AviatorX]

Response to # 1

Agree about the mojo being no good, but I also think there are things Steel can do (that he is not currently doing) to get his players to find a more singular rhythm for them all to move to and feel more in sync with each other... and more

We have almost always hired a guy with no HC experience and it has worked out for us. To address your point, Mack and Miller went through some struggles as they adjusted to their new role as HC.

Coaches who are new at the HC position particularly struggle if they do not have talented assistants surrounding them whose skills compliment theirs. I am not sure how helpful most of Steele’s assistants are when it comes to game day situations and strategies. I don’t recall seeing Steele discussing much with any assistant other than Graves (who does have head coaching experience and has been part of a winning program). For my money, I want to have coaches who have been part of programs that are proven winners (whether that be as an assistant or a HC). Winners don’t just want to win, they have it in their blood and feel they ought to always be winning.

Which current assistants under Steele came from a program that is known for a having a winning tradition in college hoops? Not his first two hires. Those seem to be guys hired for their recruiting abilities. It makes sense why Travis went after Graves. Not only did he know him, but more importantly he was an assistant at Butler when the team went to back to back NCAA Championship games. I just don’t know what he did for that team and whether or not his skills compliment Steele’s or if they are the same (redundant) set of skills. Still, he was a coach that was pretty special, working closely with Brad Stevens. That’s gotta be worth something.

Hayes and Johnson both played high-major college basketball for successful teams and were a part of high-major staffs that made the NCAA tournament.

Mack's final staff (which was universally seen as good to great) featured Luke Murray after two non-NCAA years at URI and a few more at Towson and Mike Pegues who came from Delaware. Pegues was a better college player than Hayes or Johnson (who both weren't too shabby themselves), but it's not like he came from some insane winning pedigree that these guys didn't.

I guess we're just not counting the fact that Dante literally grew up in probably the most consistently successful stretch at Xavier.

Say what you want about the staff (although IMO, no one posting here is really in any position to judge their in-game effectiveness), but this is kind of a non-point.

[UCGRAD4X]

Hayes and Johnson both played high-major college basketball for successful teams and were a part of high-major staffs that made the NCAA tournament.

Mack's final staff (which was universally seen as good to great) featured Luke Murray after two non-NCAA years at URI and a few more at Towson and Mike Pegues who came from Delaware. Pegues was a better college player than Hayes or Johnson (who both weren't too shabby themselves), but it's not like he came from some insane winning pedigree that these guys didn't.

I guess we're just not counting the fact that Dante literally grew up in probably the most consistently successful stretch at Xavier.

Say what you want about the staff (although IMO, no one posting here is really in any position to judge their in-game effectiveness), but this is kind of a non-point.

It's kind of our thing. Besides, it's about all we have at this point. Otherwise, we got nutin'!

[IM4X]

Hayes and Johnson both played high-major college basketball for successful teams and were a part of high-major staffs.

Yes, Hayes and Johnson were at high major basketball programs, but those high major programs aren’t known for have a consistent winning tradition in basketball like our program. I asked which of Steele’s first two hires came from a “Program with a winning tradition” My point was about the benefit of have coaches around who have a mindset for winning because they have been part of a program that wins year after year (and even wins in the NCAA Tournament).

Hayes was an assistant at Georgia- a team that went to 1 NCAA tournament time (which they lost in the first round)during his tenure there. In fact, Georgia has only been to the dance 3 times in the past 16 years and never got past the first round in any of those years.

Again, my point is not to say Hayes can’t be a good coach, just that he hasn’t been part of a consistent winning experience... and so while it is possibly that he could help Steele win more, he can’t actually offer Steele any “winning” insight or strategy because the Georgia teams he coached weren’t perennial winners during the regular season or a winner at all in the NCAA tournament.

Johnson has experienced a little more success as a assistant, but he too was at a high major program that was not nearly as accustomed to winning as X. He was on the staff at UNI when they made it to the Sweet Sixteen.

Both Hayes and Johnson have a good reputation for recruiting, so I get the appeal of wanting them. Yet, it also makes sense that Steele would also go after someone like Graves- an assistant who was part of a program with a winning tradition that also went to two NCAA championship titles.

I am not sure what you meant by “this is a non-point” I can only imagine it was somehow in reference to your opinion about posters here not being “in a position to judge (the assistants) in-game effectiveness.”

Hey- I’m just laying out some thoughts I had about the assistants other than Jackson (who we know a bit more about) based on what I’ve read about those assistants (and the level of success they were a part of in the past), heard from them (listening to radio shows and videos) and seen of them (by watching what they do or don’t do with players and coaches during games)... and how those thoughts of mine might play into the current situation.

This team has been struggling for a number of reasons and it makes sense (at least to me) that what the assistants have or haven’t been doing has played a role in the team’s struggles.

[xu82]

To all Xavier fans, players, and especially recruits: Please know that these guys posting are just that.....just a bunch of guys. Look at the big picture, the school, the history of the basketball program, the commitment of the University, the education available, the quality of the coaches and their message, etc.

I believe in this program with all my heart. When you play in the big leagues, it’s a tough go. We are up to that challenge. Go X!

[AviatorX]

Yes, Hayes and Johnson were at high major basketball programs, but those high major programs aren’t known for have a consistent winning tradition in basketball like our program. I asked which of Steele’s first two hires came from a “Program with a winning tradition” My point was about the benefit of have coaches around who have a mindset for winning because they have been part of a program that wins year after year (and even wins in the NCAA Tournament).

Hayes was an assistant at Georgia- a team that went to 1 NCAA tournament time (which they lost in the first round)during his tenure there. In fact, Georgia has only been to the dance 3 times in the past 16 years and never got past the first round in any of those years.

Again, my point is not to say Hayes can’t be a good coach, just that he hasn’t been part of a consistent winning experience... and so while it is possibly that he could help Steele win more, he can’t actually offer Steele any “winning” insight or strategy because the Georgia teams he coached weren’t perennial winners during the regular season or a winner at all in the NCAA tournament.

Johnson has experienced a little more success as a assistant, but he too was at a high major program that was not nearly as accustomed to winning as X. He was on the staff at UNI when they made it to the Sweet Sixteen.

Both Hayes and Johnson have a good reputation for recruiting, so I get the appeal of wanting them. Yet, it also makes sense that Steele would also go after someone like Graves- an assistant who was part of a program with a winning tradition that also went to two NCAA championship titles.

I am not sure what you meant by “this is a non-point” I can only imagine it was somehow in reference to your opinion about posters here not being “in a position to judge (the assistants) in-game effectiveness.”

Hey- I’m just laying out some thoughts I had about the assistants other than Jackson (who we know a bit more about) based on what I’ve read about those assistants (and the level of success they were a part of in the past), heard from them (listening to radio shows and videos) and seen of them (by watching what they do or don’t do with players and coaches during games)... and how those thoughts of mine might play into the current situation.

This team has been struggling for a number of reasons and it makes sense (at least to me) that what the assistants have or haven’t been doing has played a role in the team’s struggles.

So is there a pre-approved list of schools X coaches can hire their staff from to ensure they can offer winning insight? It’s a non-point because it’s just that, not a point. It makes no sense. That’s why I offered up the make up of Mack’s staff as a counter. Another example is John Beilein bringing on Luke Yaklich from Illinois State - probably the most impactful assistant coaching hire of the past decade. He didn’t exactly come from Duke.

Like I said in my last post, there’s certainly criticism of Steele’s staff to go around, but pointing to where they came from is not a good example, especially since both Hayes and Johnson were very highly regarded before joining X.

[kellernr]

It's a perfect time to post something positive. All 3 of our 2020s are moving up with a lightning bolt in the updated Rivals 150. CoJo cracks the top 100. So how about we go easy on the vipered criticism of Coach Steele until his solid recruiting takes hold....looking at you Xville.

https://n.rivals.com/prospect_rankings/rivals150/2020

Also, according to a Brian Snow write up yesterday, X in on several Mid West 2021 prospects on the rise including 2 local kids....Lakota East SG Nate Johnson looks BEast ready and the Moel!er Big would be a nice fit for the frontcourt needs down the line.

https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/ContentGallery/Basketball-Recruiting-Iowa-Hawkeyes-Tony-Perkins-Logan-Duncomb-Indiana-Hoosiers-Xavier-Musketeers-Ohio-State-Buckeyes-Pierre-Brooks-143063788/#1362747_1

https://www.wcpo.com/sports/high-school-sports/lakota-east-boys-basketball-team-is-4-0-for-the-first-time-since-2012

It's likely the "Core 4" era is coming to an end. If that's the case, there is clear separation because of the Mack lost class. With Carter, James, Hanson as the only returning upper classmen, we're basically in a legit rebuild. Just keep stacking up high quality talent and things get back to normal quickly.The guy can recruit. No one will argue that. Hes not a good coach when it comes to running set plays and getting the right players on the floor together.

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[kellernr]

It's a perfect time to post something positive. All 3 of our 2020s are moving up with a lightning bolt in the updated Rivals 150. CoJo cracks the top 100. So how about we go easy on the vipered criticism of Coach Steele until his solid recruiting takes hold....looking at you Xville.

https://n.rivals.com/prospect_rankings/rivals150/2020

Also, according to a Brian Snow write up yesterday, X in on several Mid West 2021 prospects on the rise including 2 local kids....Lakota East SG Nate Johnson looks BEast ready and the Moel!er Big would be a nice fit for the frontcourt needs down the line.

https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/ContentGallery/Basketball-Recruiting-Iowa-Hawkeyes-Tony-Perkins-Logan-Duncomb-Indiana-Hoosiers-Xavier-Musketeers-Ohio-State-Buckeyes-Pierre-Brooks-143063788/#1362747_1

https://www.wcpo.com/sports/high-school-sports/lakota-east-boys-basketball-team-is-4-0-for-the-first-time-since-2012

It's likely the "Core 4" era is coming to an end. If that's the case, there is clear separation because of the Mack lost class. With Carter, James, Hanson as the only returning upper classmen, we're basically in a legit rebuild. Just keep stacking up high quality talent and things get back to normal quickly.On the core 4 being done I would think Scruggs might come back. He has not been good this year and is nowhere near cracking any mock drafts. If he leaves hes heading to Europe to play. None of the core 4 will ever be on an nba roster .

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[MADXSTER]

Call me crazy, but sometimes players like to get their degree too.

[UCGRAD4X]

Call me crazy, but sometimes players like to get their degree too.

Maybe just a bit old fashioned.

[Xuperman]

Both Jones and Odom will play for State Championships today. Both guys won their tourneys last year and are coming in hot to repeat.

https://www.al.com/highschoolsports/2020/02/colby-jones-keeps-mountain-brook-on-track-for-4th-straight-state-title.html

CoJo stuffs the stat sheet again going for 29 and 14. So happy that Steele decided on him over Niels Lane.

https://www.northfulton.com/sports/st-francis-boys-and-girls-basketball-advance-to-state-finals/article_cd269dfe-5a83-11ea-8974-136f12843b3b.html

Odom looks to hit campus with a variety of championships and awards. Maxpreps hasn't posted his numbers from the semi finals W but this article states he scored 14 in the 3rd......now that's gettin' it done!

https://www.nj.com/highschoolsports/2020/02/boys-basketball-uct-final-preview-no-2-patrick-school-vs-no-3-roselle-catholic.html

Wilcher's Roselle Catholic will play the mighty Patrick School today for a championship also BUT apparently CJ is hurt.
Hey EastCoast, give us an update!

https://highschoolsports.nj.com/player/cj-wilcher-507815

[xukeith]

great links!
I wonder why Wilcher stopped playing after 2/11/20. Is he hurt 3 games before and after?
For an amazing shooter, he does not shoot a ton of threes. Maybe he is a great defender

[Xuperman]

I was wrong on Odom playing for a Championship yesterday, his is later this week but here are the results of the other two.

Jones got somewhat stifled scoring 10 in a 40-38 loss. 3 point shooting was ugly.

https://www.al.com/highschoolsports/2020/03/lee-montgomery-beats-mountain-brook-claims-7a-boys-title.html

Wi!cher's Roselle squad also takes the loss but CJ didn't play and missed his 4th consecutive game. No mention to the extent of the injury here.

https://www.nj.com/highschoolsports/2020/03/boys-basketball-no-2-pats-rises-above-no-3-roselle-catholic-for-uct-crown.html

Apparently this tourney is not the last. Teams get re-shuffled for another one in March. Again, maybe someone from the area can explain.....EastCoast?

[waggy]

https://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/video/1704626243940

[EastCoastXman]

They say CJ has a hip injury. Not much else being talked about. Saturday were all the NJ County Tournament games. Roselle Catholic lost by about 14 to the Patrick School (3rd time this year). CJ brother had 14 in the Union County final. The NJ state tournament started yesterday and will run for 2 weeks. I will keep an eye out to see if CJ plays. I believe the Patrick School is also in their group.

[EastCoastXman]

Just checked the State Tournament bracket. Roselle Catholic is a 3 seed in North Non Public B division. They go by a power point system to seed the tournament. Gill St Bernard #1, Patrick School #2 and RC #3. RC plays tonight, and Thursday. If they and Patrick School wins these games they will hook up for a 4th time on Saturday in the group semi. Lots of D1 players on both these teams RC has CJ to X, N Lane to FL and Big Cliff Omoruyi possibly going to Rutgers or Az St. Patrick start is J. Kuminga who is reportedly reclassifying to 2021 and was rated #1 junior in the country and Adam Sanogo who Seton Hall is after.

[Masterofreality]

Let's hope that CJ's hip is not a long term deal.

[XU22]

Kobe Webster has entered the transfer portal. From Western Illinois. Grad transfer. Played at Park Tudor where Trevon and Bryce Moore both played.

One to keep an eye on for sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2HWtPXLjV4

[EastCoastXman]

CJ did not play last night in Roselle Catholic's opening state game. They play again tomorrow night and then probably the Patrick School on Saturday. No reporting for a few days since I will be in the Keys catching dinner. Back in time to be at MSG for BET.

[GIMMFD]

Kobe Webster has entered the transfer portal. From Western Illinois. Grad transfer. Played at Park Tudor where Trevon and Bryce Moore both played.

One to keep an eye on for sure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2HWtPXLjV4

Averages around 17 a game, shoots decently well from the 3, wouldn't say I'd hate it at all, wonder how his defense is...

[Xuperman]

https://www.ajc.com/blog/high-school-sports/class-private-boys-francis-greenforest/NIqwdEWv1IjtJLnacgU9DM/

Dwon has another dominating performance. Leads St. Francis to another state championship.

[XU22]

Averages around 17 a game, shoots decently well from the 3, wouldn't say I'd hate it at all, wonder how his defense is...

I would say better than some of the guards on the current roster. But he is definitely better offensively than defensively.

He's heard from Arkansas, Illinois, Indiana, Xavier, Nebraska, Tulane, Temple, and Wake Forest so far and only expects more to reach out.

[AviatorX]

I'm always weary of taking grad transfer guards from really bad teams, but I guess that's the upside of a grad transfer - if it doesn't work out, you just sit the bench.

[drudy23]

Do we really care if a 2 guard can't play great defense?

Tre was a horrible defender. He more than made up for it. Better offense is always better.

[MADXSTER]

https://www.ajc.com/blog/high-school-sports/class-private-boys-francis-greenforest/niqwdewv1ijtjlnacgu9dm/

dwon has another dominating performance. Leads st. Francis to another state championship.

nice!!!!

[GIMMFD]

I'm always weary of taking grad transfer guards from really bad teams, but I guess that's the upside of a grad transfer - if it doesn't work out, you just sit the bench.

Yup, because worst case scenario he may end up providing a random spark off the bench, Lou Williams thrives at that in the NBA right now.. well I guess worst case scenario would be what's happening to Bryce Moore, but still, and best case scenario is that he shows he has the talent to belong and earn minutes. Couple in that they can play immediately and already have experience at the college level and it does more good than harm in order to fill out a roster.

[XUBison]

I'm always weary of taking grad transfer guards from really bad teams, but I guess that's the upside of a grad transfer - if it doesn't work out, you just sit the bench.

And in this case, Kobe Webster is a good, not great player on a really really really really bad team.

[Xuperman]

It's rare to find complete career stats on a high school player but MaxPreps has them on Odom.

https://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/dwon-odom/JQ4UY6-AEeaAdqA2nzwY6g/basketball/stats.htm#year=19-20

He really struggled from distance his junior year. Looks like he has worked on his outside shooting as he just posted his best season from 3 at 39% but the amazing thing is...he's a CAREER 69% from inside the arc. Solid at the line but oddly he doesn't get there as much as you would think. The real mind blower is that he had more career steals than turnovers! Obviously it's vs HS competition but is that even possible at the D1 college level? I mean his steals cancel out his TOs, a net positive. Almost like not turning the ball over for his entire career. And that's just steals. Who knows how many others he's forced.

Pretty sure Dwon will go a long way in solving some of those pesky BBIQ and TO issues....:yahoo:

[UCGRAD4X]

It's rare to find complete career stats on a high school player but MaxPreps has them on Odom.

https://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/dwon-odom/JQ4UY6-AEeaAdqA2nzwY6g/basketball/stats.htm#year=19-20

He really struggled from distance his junior year. Looks like he has worked on his outside shooting as he just posted his best season from 3 but the amazing thing is...he's a CAREER 69% from inside the arc. The real mind blower is that he had more career steals than turnovers! Obviously it's vs HS competition but is that even possible at the D1 college level? I mean his steals cancel out his TOs, a net positive. Almost like not turning the ball over for his entire career. And that's just steals. Who knows how many others he's forced.

Pretty sure Dwon will go a long way in solving some of those pesky BBIQ and TO issues....:yahoo:

When you're at the bottom..it's the only way.

[GIMMFD]

And in this case, Kobe Webster is a good, not great player on a really really really really bad team.

Really? I'm not trying to argue I genuinely don't know, because his stats look pretty solid. 17 ppg is a decent number, obviously I don't think he'd be anywhere close to that in the Big East, but is it more so inflated because his team gets blown out, so defense may be a little laxed, or something of that nature?

[XU22]

Really? I'm not trying to argue I genuinely don't know, because his stats look pretty solid. 17 ppg is a decent number, obviously I don't think he'd be anywhere close to that in the Big East, but is it more so inflated because his team gets blown out, so defense may be a little laxed, or something of that nature?

He is also getting doubled team or the other team is running a box and 1 on him.

I thought his offensive numbers were quite impressive. His defense is good, not great, but we don't need it to be great.

[Xuperman]

Wilcher returns from injury launching daggers from distance....carries Roselle into championship on Saturday.

https://www.nj.com/highschoolsports/2020/03/boys-basketball-wilcher-goes-deep-to-rally-no-3-roselle-catholic-by-no-9-gill.html

[Xville]

Wilcher returns from injury launching daggers from distance....carries Roselle into championship on Saturday.

https://www.nj.com/highschoolsports/2020/03/boys-basketball-wilcher-goes-deep-to-rally-no-3-roselle-catholic-by-no-9-gill.html

Awesome....surprised though....grade schools and high schools are shut down for the next several weeks here.

[xudash]

Wilcher returns from injury launching daggers from distance....carries Roselle into championship on Saturday.

https://www.nj.com/highschoolsports/2020/03/boys-basketball-wilcher-goes-deep-to-rally-no-3-roselle-catholic-by-no-9-gill.html

Some of the cavalry that is on the way.

[Lamont Sanford]

Is anyone else worried about the depth in the post next year? By my recollection, we'll have Freemantle, Carter, Deionte Miles and Daniel Ramsey available. I have zero confidence that Ramsey ever plays significant minutes at X dealing with all his knee injuries, concussions, etc. I loved what Freemantle showed this season. I am excited to see Miles finally play too. Carter has been basically a bust. Is that deep enough (basically just Carter, Miles and Freemantle) for all of you??? Steele and staff better be making it a priority to find some bigs immediately.

[JTG]

A muscular big, NOT a project. Freemantle can get bigger over the off season. Miles will probably be wiry at best.

[Xavier]

Once they give word that Seniors are granted one more year- our post play will be great with Jones coming back.


*I know they won't do that for winter sports.

[xavierj]

Is anyone else worried about the depth in the post next year? By my recollection, we'll have Freemantle, Carter, Deionte Miles and Daniel Ramsey available. I have zero confidence that Ramsey ever plays significant minutes at X dealing with all his knee injuries, concussions, etc. I loved what Freemantle showed this season. I am excited to see Miles finally play too. Carter has been basically a bust. Is that deep enough (basically just Carter, Miles and Freemantle) for all of you??? Steele and staff better be making it a priority to find some bigs immediately.

Not really. I am sure they will target a big 5th year guy, but I think Travis might want to run an offense like Nova, with a bunch of shooters and slashers and one big guy. Could be wrong but that seems to be what he is recruiting. Miles was a project grab because of his size and as you have mentioned you don’t know what to feel about Ramsey. Even in 2021 he is recruiting wings heavily and a few bigs.

[throwbackmuskie]

X has contacted Jonah Antonio of UNLV

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4067910/jonah-antonio

[XUGRAD80]

I would be totally surprised if X wasn’t already contacting transfer bigs that are immediately eligible.

[Xville]

X has contacted Jonah Antonio of UNLV

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/4067910/jonah-antonio

Um for what? His stats are medicore in a crap league and hes 6'5. What am I missing

[GIMMFD]

I would be totally surprised if X wasn’t already contacting transfer bigs that are immediately eligible.

Yeah, I fully expect X to pick up a big man transfer if not for anything other than depth at least, someone with some experience playing college ball. If we're lucky, we find another Hanky, if we're not, it's a one year commitment to some depth. Even if we do go the Villanova route with small ball and some shooters, I think where Freemantle and Carter are the only 2 with some experience on the roster, it'd be silly not to look at another big just to fill out the roster. Gotta have bodies to practice efficiently as well.

[Final4]

A muscular big, NOT a project. Freemantle can get bigger over the off season. Miles will probably be wiry at best.

I've been told that Miles has gained 30 lbs. For whatever that may be worth.

[JTG]

I've been told that Miles has gained 30 lbs. For whatever that may be worth.

Wow, pretty good for only being around 9 months. Probably another 15-20 lbs. would be a good target.

[stammina0721]

Tyrique getting 5th year would be awesome. I think Q would still leave

[xu82]

Tyrique getting 5th year would be awesome. I think Q would still leave

You “think”, or you hope?

[xukeith]

Tyrique getting 5th year would be awesome. I think Q would still leave

If I were a senior, I would be done with college athletics and I'd be more done with attending classes that I don't have to take. I would be very excited to cashing in on my basketball skills.

[xavierj]

Wichita State just had three dudes enter the portal. Two starters and double figure scores. Burton and Stevenson. Burton averaged 11 points per game and shot 38% from three. He’s 6’4” 200, so a big guard. Wonder what Go thinks.

[xavierj]

And just like that, Travis Steele and Jonas Hayes are already following Jamarius Burton.

[sirthought]

Miles is listed at 208. If he added 30 lbs that would put him at a great playing weight. Yes, we've had bigger dudes command the paint, but 235-240 in college is really workable, especially because I bet a lot of this weight is coming from muscle. He's still going to be a young player, but I bet he comes along faster than some people here are giving him credit for.

Bigs as grad transfers are really luck of the draw. Xavier has really been lucky a couple seasons but I doubt that can continue whenever we need it. Although I know there's a need next season, I'd rather look at a transfer that truly has some talent and potential. At least the guy can help our current players get better in practice. If any of these guys get hurt, we could be extremely thin.

[GIMMFD]

Wichita State just had three dudes enter the portal. Two starters and double figure scores. Burton and Stevenson. Burton averaged 11 points per game and shot 38% from three. He’s 6’4” 200, so a big guard. Wonder what Go thinks.

Per twitter, we contacted Erik Stevenson as well, looks like we're going to go after another guard in the transfer market as well, which I guess makes sense since Scruggs' status is up in the air, and Bishop transferred out as well. Hope we're linked to a big man soon too.

[UCGRAD4X]

Miles is listed at 208. If he added 30 lbs that would put him at a great playing weight. Yes, we've had bigger dudes command the paint, but 235-240 in college is really workable, especially because I bet a lot of this weight is coming from muscle. He's still going to be a young player, but I bet he comes along faster than some people here are giving him credit for.

Bigs as grad transfers are really luck of the draw. Xavier has really been lucky a couple seasons but I doubt that can continue whenever we need it. Although I know there's a need next season, I'd rather look at a transfer that truly has some talent and potential. At least the guy can help our current players get better in practice. If any of these guys get hurt, we could be extremely thin.

If we're set up to shit the bed next year anyway (as has been suggested) getting a big transfer will take minutes away from Miles and Ramsey. Unless there is an expectations/doubts that Ramsey will be ready to go next year from the start.

Put them out there and see what they can do.

[XUGRAD80]

If we're set up to shit the bed next year anyway (as has been suggested) getting a big transfer will take minutes away from Miles and Ramsey. Unless there is an expectations/doubts that Ramsey will be ready to go next year from the start.

Put them out there and see what they can do.

Are you already giving up on next year?

[UCGRAD4X]

Are you already giving up on next year?

Parenthetically I qualified it by saying "as many have suggested". I did not say that necessarily, however many, if not most of the posters seem to think we will be too young next year to be competitive. Some have said it will take two years and fear it will be another year of missing the tournament. What I am saying is IF that is the case, I would rather get the young pups as much court time as reasonably possible.

I thought it was worth a discussion.

IMHO opinion (FWIW) next year seems like sort of a crap-shoot. This year we seemed more sure of what we had and what the expectations were, within a reasonable degree of error.

[XUGRAD80]

Myself, I’m interested to see how the young players develop and how the team grows over the year. I do think that Xavier will try to get at least one center type player to transfer in and I would welcome that. For one thing, having some depth means that the players won’t get totally worn down during the year. For another thing, bringing in some depth also helps practices to be more productive. Bringing in a quality big might also mean that Miles has someone to teach him some of the tricks of the trade. I also haven’t given up on the idea that they will be competitive next year. I do believe that Scruggs will be coming back. Will also have Feeemantle, Carter, and KyKy coming back, all experienced BE players. Who knows, add in a couple of more productive players and they might surprise some people. Seems to me that the BE is going to be losing some of its top players and the league may not be as tough as it was this year. I’m certainly not expecting great things, but I think it might turn out to be a fun year anyway.

[GIMMFD]

Parenthetically I qualified it by saying "as many have suggested". I did not say that necessarily, however many, if not most of the posters seem to think we will be too young next year to be competitive. Some have said it will take two years and fear it will be another year of missing the tournament. What I am saying is IF that is the case, I would rather get the young pups as much court time as reasonably possible.

I thought it was worth a discussion.

IMHO opinion (FWIW) next year seems like sort of a crap-shoot. This year we seemed more sure of what we had and what the expectations were, within a reasonable degree of error.

I definitely think it's worth discussing, by all means our roster construction for next year is filled with a lot of younger, inexperienced guys, and they'll have to grow through the fire. I think it kind of depends on the quality of the transfer. A good big man grad transfer (someone with the skillset of Karem Kanter comes to mind), might be a good addition, because the talent is there. Maybe a grad transfer with experience can bridge some of the growing pains that I'm sure we'll experience next year. I also wonder if it would be beneficial to get a normal big man transfer, with a year sitting out, and the recruiting classes the last couple years, we may be built to win in two years (should be, but you can never predict roster turnover). I think a lot of it will be dependent on the quality of transfer, because I do agree with you, that I'd just let Ramsey and Miles develop if it's nobody that will make a significant contribution.

[XUBison]

Myself, I’m interested to see how the young players develop and how the team grows over the year. I do think that Xavier will try to get at least one center type player to transfer in and I would welcome that. For one thing, having some depth means that the players won’t get totally worn down during the year. For another thing, bringing in some depth also helps practices to be more productive. Bringing in a quality big might also mean that Miles has someone to teach him some of the tricks of the trade. I also haven’t given up on the idea that they will be competitive next year. I do believe that Scruggs will be coming back. Will also have Feeemantle, Carter, and KyKy coming back, all experienced BE players. Who knows, add in a couple of more productive players and they might surprise some people. Seems to me that the BE is going to be losing some of its top players and the league may not be as tough as it was this year. I’m certainly not expecting great things, but I think it might turn out to be a fun year anyway.

You have good posts when you stick to talking hoops.

[Olsingledigit]

Miles is listed at 208. If he added 30 lbs that would put him at a great playing weight. Yes, we've had bigger dudes command the paint, but 235-240 in college is really workable, especially because I bet a lot of this weight is coming from muscle. He's still going to be a young player, but I bet he comes along faster than some people here are giving him credit for.

Bigs as grad transfers are really luck of the draw. Xavier has really been lucky a couple seasons but I doubt that can continue whenever we need it. Although I know there's a need next season, I'd rather look at a transfer that truly has some talent and potential. At least the guy can help our current players get better in practice. If any of these guys get hurt, we could be extremely thin.

I watched Miles play in all of the games in Spain. He is very talented and hustles. He was first down the court (including the other team) for some layups or dunks several times. He is very coordinated and very athletic. Admittedly the competition in Spain was not very good, but I expect good things from Miles. Still, another big Grad Transfer would be enormously helpful. He cannot man the center position alone and Free is more valuable at a forward.

[Xavgrad08]

Graduate transfer Kobe Webster commits to Nebraska. Xavier was one of the schools recruiting him. https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28902137/nebraska-lands-transfer-kobe-webster-western-illinois?platform=amp

[UCGRAD4X]

I think the one good reason for getting a grad transfer big would be to help the young lads in practice learn from his experience going up against him in practice. Otherwise, throw them in the water and make them swim.

[noteggs]

I get bigs are always a desired commodity. However, we had Tyrique and Free last year. Next year, we have Free, Miles and potentially Ramsey. Carter at the 4. Do we really focus on another big? Positions 1 through 3, we have KyKy and potentially Paul returning with 3 unknown freshman. Not sure guard/3 is not our biggest need in the transfer portal.

[Juice]

I get bigs are always a desired commodity. However, we had Tyrique and Free last year. Next year, we have Free, Miles and potentially Ramsey. Carter at the 4. Do we really focus on another big? Positions 1 through 3, we have KyKy and potentially Paul returning with 3 unknown freshman. Not sure guard/3 is not our biggest need in the transfer portal.

Couldn't agree more. A wing or 4 is the biggest need I see. I like Carter (I know I'm in the minority) but for a board who seems to dislike him a lot, why isn't anyone mentioning a backup for him? And a wing seems necessary because besides Scruggs, the guards expected to contribute a lot (Kyky and Dwon) are really short.

[JTG]

Graduate transfer Kobe Webster commits to Nebraska. Xavier was one of the schools recruiting him. https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/28902137/nebraska-lands-transfer-kobe-webster-western-illinois?platform=amp

Nebraska? Really? That's like wanting to be on the Titanic.

[Juice]

Nebraska? Really? That's like wanting to be on the Titanic.

Hoiberg will turn it around. It took him one year to get ISU in the tourney. It will very likely take more than that at Nebraska but I think he's a good coach.

[XUGRAD80]

With Bishop having left, and Naji probably leaving, wouldn’t that leave 5 openings for next year? Only have 3 freshman signed, so that leaves room for a big and a wing or guard transfer.

[GIMMFD]

With Bishop having left, and Naji probably leaving, wouldn’t that leave 5 openings for next year? Only have 3 freshman signed, so that leaves room for a big and a wing or guard transfer.

I believe that's right, and I think we should grab a wing and a big, I'm saying big as a general term (could be a 4 or a 5), obviously basketball is transitioning into "positionless" for the most part now, so a lot of the skillsets guys have now are different than traditional number terms. I think that we should look for size, and people that can space the floor with a good shooting ability.

[paulxu]

Just have Naji come back for a year and you've got your wing, and hopefully he won't have to double as a point guard.

[xavierj]

Just have Naji come back for a year and you've got your wing, and hopefully he won't have to double as a point guard.

I don’t think Naji can just play the wing and be successful. He seems to have to have the call in his hands to score. I don’t know if I have seen him just come off a screen and score. Even his threes are off the dribble. I think with Scruggs back and Naji not, the offense will be much easier to watch. I also think Scruggs will thrive not having Naji on the floor. They just didn’t fit well together. Paul also can score without having to score off the dribble. He’s a better shooter and more of a wing than Naji.

[XU_Lou]

In case you didn't see this yet, this should bring your spirits up: https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/xavier/2020/03/16/xavier-basketball-recruiting-meet-dwon-odom-georgia/5058212002/

Dude is going to be a baller - it sounds like he's going to bring a lot of things that this year's team was missing.

[UCGRAD4X]

In case you didn't see this yet, this should bring your spirits up: https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/xavier/2020/03/16/xavier-basketball-recruiting-meet-dwon-odom-georgia/5058212002/

Dude is going to be a baller - it sounds like he's going to bring a lot of things that this year's team was missing.

Sounds as if, perhaps, Travis will have us rebuilt sooner rather than later. Article from Travis also linked here talks about getting the "right guys", "We're going to keep rebuilding. That's for sure" and "The future looks really, really bright".

Three 'reallys' would have been more reassuring, but I'll take whatever optimism we can muster.

The 'keep rebuilding" sounds like he expects the recruiting to be better and more consistent, perhaps. At what point does it turn into 'reloading"?

[paulxu]

High BB IQ and 45% from 3. That could help.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/xavier/2020/03/17/meet-xavier-basketball-signee-colby-jones-who-joins-xu-next-season/5058232002/

[IM4X]

High BB IQ and 45% from 3. That could help.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/xavier/2020/03/17/meet-xavier-basketball-signee-colby-jones-who-joins-xu-next-season/5058232002/


I’ll second that. A very pleasant surprise about his 3 point shooting as I remember that being a big question mark- since he didn’t shoot many.

[xu82]

These are great articles. VERY excited about our team going forward!

[murray87]

Fun times at Syracuse!

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/syracuse-basketball-roster-flux-212043818--ncaab.html

[UCGRAD4X]

Fun times at Syracuse!

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/syracuse-basketball-roster-flux-212043818--ncaab.html

With six guards in the stable and one of them the coaches son, might have prompted such an exodus. Not to mention what might be in the pipeline.

[Xuperman]

COVID-19 rears it's ugly head and CJ was denied his chance for a Championship....just as he is doing his best Steph Curry imitation.

Looks like Deivon Smith was named Georgia Mr. Basketball over Dwon Odom in a travesty but Colby Jones is nicely poised to get the Alabama award.

[Xuperman]

High BB IQ and 45% from 3. That could help.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/xavier/2020/03/17/meet-xavier-basketball-signee-colby-jones-who-joins-xu-next-season/5058232002/

In reading this article, Jones could end up being the prototypical multi-tooled guy today's game demands. At 6'6" with an excellent handle, along with a variety of scoring ability in his arsenal, he looks to be the Nova style "Swiss army knife" type player that Steele wants to build a system around. CJ also fits this description nicely.

I think their size is key....loading up on athletic guys in the 6'5"-6'7" range makes for some elite defensive possibilities as well. Here's to hoping Coach continues to stack up this kind of versatility.

[paulxu]

Maxpreps player of the year for Alabama is Colby Jones.

https://twitter.com/mtnbrookhoops

[Masterofreality]

In reading this article, Jones could end up being the prototypical multi-tooled guy today's game demands. At 6'6" with an excellent handle, along with a variety of scoring ability in his arsenal, he looks to be the Nova style "Swiss army knife" type player that Steele wants to build a system around. CJ also fits this description nicely.

I think their size is key....loading up on athletic guys in the 6'5"-6'7" range makes for some elite defensive possibilities as well. Here's to hoping Coach continues to stack up this kind of versatility.

This also seems as if Colby would fit in perfectly at Naji's spot. Gives time for KyKy, Scruggy (hopefully he comes back) and breaking in Dwon.

[Xuperman]

High BB IQ and 45% from 3. That could help.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/xavier/2020/03/17/meet-xavier-basketball-signee-colby-jones-who-joins-xu-next-season/5058232002/


In case you didn't see this yet, this should bring your spirits up:

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/xavier/2020/03/16/xavier-basketball-recruiting-meet-dwon-odom-georgia/5058212002/

Here's the third article on our wonderful 2020 class....all in one post for your viewing pleasure!

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/xavier/2020/03/18/a-fantastic-shot-maker-heres-what-xaviers-getting-c-j-wilcher/5058298002/?utm_term=upNextModule

[noteggs]

Nice highlight mix for Odom. Excited to see what he can do next year, but we really need to open the lane for him to fully utilize his talents.

https://twitter.com/jmixtape__/status/1245424319469101068

[xavierj]

Nice highlight mix for Odom. Excited to see what he can do next year, but we really need to open the lane for him to fully utilize his talents.

https://twitter.com/jmixtape__/status/1245424319469101068

That’s the plan. Coaches are not recruiting guys that can’t score outside two feet and don’t have anyone on the roster any more that will clog the lane. It will benefit Odom, Tandy, Scruggs and Colby Jones a lot next year not having three guys waiting at the rim.

[Xuperman]

CJ Wilcher definitely not shy about speaking his mind....good chance he ends up being a hellava leader, here and beyond!!

https://nothingbutnylon.com/c-j-wilcher-demands-respect-conversation-with-a-young-black-man/

[Xuperman]

Also, I don't think this Colby Jones article has been posted.....a very high character young man indeed! :logo:

https://the-nextgen.com/articles-1/colby-jones

[Xville]

CJ Wilcher definitely not shy about speaking his mind....good chance he ends up being a hellava leader, here and beyond!!

https://nothingbutnylon.com/c-j-wilcher-demands-respect-conversation-with-a-young-black-man/

Stopped reading as soon as he said he agreed with rioting. Great. Guy sounded like a walking contradiction thru that entire interview. Not for revenge but has no problem rioting and destroying businesses, unless they are black owned, then he has a problem with it. Not for this guy being a representative of our university.

[Backyard Champ]

He’s a teenager. Relax

[Xville]

He’s a teenager. Relax

Would you feel the same way if he was a white teenager saying it's ok to riot and destroy businesses, except for white owned ones? Police brutality completely wrong, but so is destruction of property and he sounds like a racist based on that interview.

[GoMuskies]

He’s a teenager. Relax

So was the track/cross country guy the university parted ways with.

[GoMuskies]

Would you feel the same way if he was a white teenager saying it's ok to riot and destroy businesses, except for white owned ones? Police brutality completely wrong, but so is destruction of property and he sounds like a racist based on that interview.

I suspect Fr. Graham agrees with him.

[Backyard Champ]

So was the track/cross country guy the university parted ways with.

Feel like the difference between the comments is pretty substantial.

[xudash]

CJ Wilcher definitely not shy about speaking his mind....good chance he ends up being a hellava leader, here and beyond!!

https://nothingbutnylon.com/c-j-wilcher-demands-respect-conversation-with-a-young-black-man/

I’m a conservative and a registered Republican. I simply don’t understand anyone who favors open borders and doesn’t support legal immigration. I’m a law and order guy. I believe Trump has managed the economy brilliantly, especially with respect to job formation and very especially with his handling of the Chinese and other trade agreements.

So, where do you think I now stand on CJW? I think he is fantastic. If you read through some of the contradictory statements, you can come through with a clearer understanding of what life has truly been like, and still is like, for a Black man. Rioting and destruction is not the answer. But what comes through are the thick layers of bigotry and the “structural, systemic discrimination that have brought it all to a boiling point - again.

Good for him. Now come to X, be successful and create a platform for yourself to make constructive change.

[GoMuskies]

Feel like the difference between the comments is pretty substantial.

I wasn't upset Xavier cut ties. But "being a teenager" is clearly not a valid excuse right now.

[AviatorX]

Stopped reading as soon as he said he agreed with rioting. Great. Guy sounded like a walking contradiction thru that entire interview. Not for revenge but has no problem rioting and destroying businesses, unless they are black owned, then he has a problem with it. Not for this guy being a representative of our university.

I’m sure you will remain this upset about it if the ball starts going through the hoop from 3 in November.

[Xville]

I’m sure you will remain this upset about it if the ball starts going through the hoop from 3 in November.

I'll still believe hes not a good representative. Justifying rioting and destroying business, but not black business is being a complete racist. If this were a white kid saying this stuff, he'd be off the team within seconds of the interview being published. The double standard that is starting to permeate throughout society is sickening.

[Lamont Sanford]

I'll still believe hes not a good representative. Justifying rioting and destroying business, but not black business is being a complete racist. If this were a white kid saying this stuff, he'd be off the team within seconds of the interview being published. The double standard that is starting to permeate throughout society is sickening.

Well said.

[JTG]

Probably a lot of the people on here did stupid shit when they were in school. I marched in protests about Kent St, voted liberal, did other stuff. But changed after 4 years, ended up being very conservative. That's part of what college is about. Is there a double standard now? Hell yes. There has been for some time. White people get fired, or have their careers wrecked over things they did or said 20 years ago. No one seems to understand the context in which something may have been said years ago. It always cut and dried, "you said it, and you'll be judged by today's standard". On the other hand,, most white folks don't get shot while unarmed, or end up dead during arrests for minor offenses. Hopefully a couple semesters at X will give him a different perspective on life. Can't give up on the kid after one day.

[hydmuskie]

I for one appreciate that i) he is able to articulate himself on a very complex and charged topic IN A PUBLIC FORUM. How many of us would go to a journalist and put our views on racism out there for everyone to scrutinize? and ii) that he understands the ambiguity of the situation, I think both on and off the court - he will be faced with many ambiguous situations - and his ability to tackle them head on rather than hide from them is commendable.

I don't agree with violent protest - i prefer mine to be done peacefully - but I also think that XU will be a great place for him to have this dialogue and to grow into a more sophisticated world view. He may still be accepting of violent protest - and then I shall disagree with him.

I wish my 15 year old would even broach this topic - he sits in his bubble is content with his reality.... I guess the longer he can preserve his innocence the better

[Masterofreality]

I'll still believe hes not a good representative. Justifying rioting and destroying business, but not black business is being a complete racist. If this were a white kid saying this stuff, he'd be off the team within seconds of the interview being published. The double standard that is starting to permeate throughout society is sickening.

Read David F-ing West’s tweets. You probably would think he’s not a “good representative” either.

[Masterofreality]

Probably a lot of the people on here did stupid shit when they were in school. I marched in protests about Kent St, voted liberal, did other stuff. But changed after 4 years, ended up being very conservative. That's part of what college is about. Is there a double standard now? Hell yes. There has been for some time. White people get fired, or have their careers wrecked over things they did or said 20 years ago. No one seems to understand the context in which something may have been said years ago. It always cut and dried, "you said it, and you'll be judged by today's standard". On the other hand,, most white folks don't get shot while unarmed, or end up dead during arrests for minor offenses. Hopefully a couple semesters at X will give him a different perspective on life. Can't give up on the kid after one day.

I was in the Young Democrats and worked for Hubert Humphrey’s campaign. It wasn’t “stupid shit”, (and I’m not implying that was what you were referring to above) but reality, when you look at it with a clear eye, changes your perspective, IF you want to see it.
The blind eye that so many keep using to not see where the problem with America truly lies- the terrible operation of US cities by liberal Democrat administrations for decades- is truly remarkable and telling as to where their feelings for this country and it’s problems truly are positioned.

[GoMuskies]

Read David F-ing West’s tweets. You probably would think he’s not a “good representative” either.

Not a fan of his tweets for sure.

[Xville]

Read David F-ing West’s tweets. You probably would think he’s not a “good representative” either.

Well, considering I knew him quite well as a fellow student during his four years and didnt like him as a person then, the tweets probably wouldn't change my opinion of him.

[XUGRAD80]

The last couple of pages of this thread should be moved to the Politics section.

[JTG]

Not a fan of his tweets for sure.

I didn't go to games to see him tweet, I went to see him make fools of opposizing centers.

[GoMuskies]

I didn't go to games to see him tweet, I went to see him make fools of opposizing centers.

I have his bobblehead on my desk at work. Definitely not for the tweets.

[Masterofreality]

I have his bobblehead on my desk at work. Definitely not for the tweets.

What? A university that promotes and encourages diversity of thought? Damn, that's refreshing.
(By the way, that Cross Country kid should have had his admittance pulled)

[GoMuskies]

What? A university that promotes and encourages diversity of thought? Damn, that's refreshing.
(By the way, that Cross Country kid should have had his admittance pulled)

I'm obviously okay with him having his opinions even if I don't share quite a few of them. And I was okay with Xavier pulling XC kid's offer. Not sure I'm a fan of them pulling his admission to the university altogether, but not a hill I'd die on.

[smileyy]

The last couple of pages of this thread should be moved to the Politics section.

Seriously, you don't want me winding up in here throwing my socialism around.

[XUGRAD80]

Seriously, you don't want me winding up in here throwing my socialism around.


Better there, than here.

[smileyy]

It's a big experiment!

[bobbiemcgee]

Holding good in the BE and still top 25:

https://247sports.com/Season/2020-Basketball/CompositeTeamRankings/?Conference=Big-East

[UCGRAD4X]

Holding good in the BE and still top 25:

https://247sports.com/Season/2020-Basketball/CompositeTeamRankings/?Conference=Big-East

Where's Nova? Am I missing something (prolly)

[xavierj]

Where's Nova? Am I missing something (prolly)

They didn’t sign any players for 2020.

[xukeith]

Any rumors or word about frosh or transfers surprising the normal pick up games?

[Xuperman]

Any rumors or word about frosh or transfers surprising the normal pick up games?

Here's something very recent to chew on!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E4jY7eUlsBg

He's a polished player. Love his size and looks to have an Xcellent handle.

[XUGRAD80]

Here's something very recent to chew on!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E4jY7eUlsBg

He's a polished player. Love his size and looks to have an Xcellent handle.

He looks Strong!