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JTG
06-22-2019, 10:45 AM
A site called Digital Sports Desk is reporting UCONN will be playing basketball in the BE by the 20-21 season. They still need to figure out what to do about football where they lose $10+ million a year. Neither UConn nor BE will comment.

Juice
06-22-2019, 11:00 AM
https://www.courant.com/sports/uconn-huskies/hc-sp-uconn-big-east-conference-aac-20190622-20190622-qgewcp6jhvd5fd4lenxr5vnncm-story.html

GoMuskies
06-22-2019, 11:14 AM
HO-LEE-SHIT

This is absolutely amazing.

Juice
06-22-2019, 11:18 AM
Brett McMurphy
@Brett_McMurphy
UConn will join Big East in all sports it sponsors likely in 2020, sources told @Stadium. It’s unknown whether UConn football will remain in AAC, play in another FBS conference - perhaps MAC or C-USA - or go independent, source said. 1st reported by @DigSportsDesk

GoMuskies
06-22-2019, 11:22 AM
Geno Auriemma is coming to the Cintas Center.

xuphan
06-22-2019, 11:52 AM
I wonder who will join them? Can’t imagine having an odd number in the big east.

STL_XUfan
06-22-2019, 11:54 AM
I wonder who will join them? Can’t imagine having an odd number in the big east.

20 game schedule and you can preserve the round robin

GoMuskies
06-22-2019, 11:54 AM
I wonder who will join them? Can’t imagine having an odd number in the big east.

No one will join them. This allows for double round robin and a 20 game conference schedule.

X Factor
06-22-2019, 11:55 AM
Just got a notification on my phone from my ESPN app!

Wife and kids were wondering what I freaking out about.

paulxu
06-22-2019, 11:56 AM
No one will join them. This allows for double round robin and a 20 game conference schedule.

Yes!

Although it does raise all the public/private concerns about conference negotiations/privacy/etc.

JTG
06-22-2019, 11:56 AM
Why would they continue a fb program that is woeful, and hemorrhaging money ? There is no big tv money to cover the losses. Even the new AAC tv contract money is like putting a band aid on a shotgun wound.
Next question is a 12th team, or stop at 11. And what about the fact we have 10 private schools and a big state school ?

GoMuskies
06-22-2019, 12:00 PM
Those 2021 Big East Tournament tickets are going to be impossible!

X-band '01
06-22-2019, 12:04 PM
This is also going to put the Big East in a much better position when it comes time to renegotiate the next TV deal with UConn in the mix. Cincinnati, Dayton and other wannabe programs simply do not have the brand that UConn does. Their attendance is going to spike sharply in 2 years while they wait out one more year of hell in the American.

noteggs
06-22-2019, 01:57 PM
Speaking of UC, saw on Twitter the fans are saying UConn wants easier competition. Nailed it! What a joke.

Xavgrad08
06-22-2019, 02:45 PM
I would love to have UConn in the Big East, but something doesn’t add up. Jeff Goodman tweeted out no deal has been finalized. Big East has not officially extended an offer and UConn Board of Trustees still have to vote. UConn’s beat writer tweeted that UConn is not dropping football. The alleged proposed plan is football be independent, or parked in a different conference. How does that solve the losing money on football? long term would that work, or is this temporary until the next round of conference shake ups? In other words how committed is UConn to the Big East? In reading comments from UConn fans online they view this move as temporary until the next conference realignment. UConn fans seem delusional. Either way lots of perspectives to consider and i hope they do come, but I am still skeptical it will work long term.

paulxu
06-22-2019, 02:49 PM
Speaking of UC, saw on Twitter the fans are saying UConn wants easier competition. Nailed it! What a joke.

This certainly explains why in ESPN's top 30 for next year there are 6 BE teams and 1 AAC team.

Maybe bearpussies should move to the A10 for better competition...they have 2 teams in the top 30.

bjf123
06-22-2019, 03:17 PM
Just got a notification on my phone from my ESPN app!

Wife and kids were wondering what I freaking out about.

But were you saying “Yes! Yes! Yes!” or “Shit! Shit! Shit!” ?


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bobbiemcgee
06-22-2019, 03:31 PM
Git er done, val.

Nolander sez deal will be announced next Thursday @ MSG.

Big Monday back?

sirthought
06-22-2019, 04:43 PM
May be unpopular here, but I for one am disappointed the conference didn't try to hold at 10 schools and try to make things build up even better in the current mix of programs. Seems like less money for everyone now and more of a shot in the dark if this would improve the quality of competition.

Their best sport in the last few seasons is women's basketball, which may help competition rise the Big East overall, but it didn't in the AAC, so no certainty there. They also have decent teams in baseball and women's soccer. Men's basketball might bounce back, but we can't say that for sure. It's a big gamble that the school will like in the short term. I'm just hoping the conference really enjoys it in the long term. A lot has changed in the past six-seven years.

If the school and state are smart they'll wind the football program down. Football has been hugely popular nationwide, but that trend will reverse or at least slow down and if they are having major money issues now, it's not going to get any better. Taxpayers don't expect to be holding something like this up that loses so much forever.

I don't hate the idea of UCONN to the Big East, but I would have liked it better when we first joined rather than now. Now there are more doubts if they improve things.

GIMMFD
06-22-2019, 04:58 PM
I would love to have UConn in the Big East, but something doesn’t add up. Jeff Goodman tweeted out no deal has been finalized. Big East has not officially extended an offer and UConn Board of Trustees still have to vote. UConn’s beat writer tweeted that UConn is not dropping football. The alleged proposed plan is football be independent, or parked in a different conference. How does that solve the losing money on football? long term would that work, or is this temporary until the next round of conference shake ups? In other words how committed is UConn to the Big East? In reading comments from UConn fans online they view this move as temporary until the next conference realignment. UConn fans seem delusional. Either way lots of perspectives to consider and i hope they do come, but I am still skeptical it will work long term.

I know Barstool isn't the most reputable site, but Reags is pretty damn knowledgable on college basketball, and is pretty good at reporting stories, I think this answers a lot of your questions:

https://www.barstoolsports.com/barstoolu/the-big-east-has-reportedly-saved-uconns-basketball-program

xukeith
06-22-2019, 05:54 PM
I know Barstool isn't the most reputable site, but Reags is pretty damn knowledgable on college basketball, and is pretty good at reporting stories, I think this answers a lot of your questions:

https://www.barstoolsports.com/barstoolu/the-big-east-has-reportedly-saved-uconns-basketball-program

I see how this helps UConn.
How does this benefit X?

UConn is a good "name" but they are struggling.

Now BE schools split the $ among 11 schools. Maybe X gets a better TV deal package.

paulxu
06-22-2019, 05:54 PM
Seems like less money for everyone now and more of a shot in the dark if this would improve the quality of competition.


There shouldn't be a reduction in revenue for any member if UConn is added. Fox made provisions to add up to 2 with money holding constant.

xudash
06-22-2019, 05:59 PM
May be unpopular here, but I for one am disappointed the conference didn't try to hold at 10 schools and try to make things build up even better in the current mix of programs. Seems like less money for everyone now and more of a shot in the dark if this would improve the quality of competition.

Their best sport in the last few seasons is women's basketball, which may help competition rise the Big East overall, but it didn't in the AAC, so no certainty there. They also have decent teams in baseball and women's soccer. Men's basketball might bounce back, but we can't say that for sure. It's a big gamble that the school will like in the short term. I'm just hoping the conference really enjoys it in the long term. A lot has changed in the past six-seven years.

If the school and state are smart they'll wind the football program down. Football has been hugely popular nationwide, but that trend will reverse or at least slow down and if they are having major money issues now, it's not going to get any better. Taxpayers don't expect to be holding something like this up that loses so much forever.

I don't hate the idea of UCONN to the Big East, but I would have liked it better when we first joined rather than now. Now there are more doubts if they improve things.

You are certainly entitled to your thoughts and opinion, but I don't think you're looking at this very clearly.

UCONN basketball already is coming back under Hurley. But much bigger than that is the fact that UCONN will have a major impact on the next television deal for the BIG EAST. Beyond that, is it even necessary to mention how difficult it is going to become getting tickets to the tournament at MSG?

This is a grand slam for the BIG EAST and for Xavier.

In fact, if you were looking at it from one very specific point of you, it could very well crush the aspirations of the UD basketball program, as delusional as they tend to exist. That likely happens if the Big East stops at 11, which is very likely so long as FOX is satisfied with the content inventory at that level and the conference continues to want to preserve the double Robin Robin format (very likely). It further happens should the AAC invite VCU as a response to Connecticut's departure. Think about this: with the sweater vest generation moving along, the younger kids are not going to sustain a high level of excitement over constant doses of LaSalle and Duquesne and St. Bonaventure.

I've been thinking about this all day, since I caught wind of it last night. In my opinion, this is huge news for Xavier. I for one am not worried about the P5 breaking away, as are some people. I just don't see it. I just cannot see a media package that makes sense as compared to the existing NCAA tournament deal and I believe the politics involved are too risky for the big schools. If a challenge is coming, it probably takes the form of funding sufficient to pay players to keep us reasonably competitive.

All that aside, the fact that the BIG EAST is materially shoring up its position, especially with respect to what probably is going to happen with its next media rights deal, enables me to believe that Xavier is firmly in the club for the future.

sirthought
06-22-2019, 06:23 PM
You're assuming UCONN improves and adds value to men's basketball in the conference. That's not a sure thing. They were at the bottom of conference standings last season and recruiting hasn't offered much hope. Hurley does, but you never know.

I don't care about UD or if they sell more tickets at Big East tournament. They already have the strongest attendance and UD is never on the radar.

I do care about the level of competition for the student athletes, what it offers for fans, and if XU still has a good shot to excel in the standings. I think some of that is really questionable with the move and they already had one of the better situations in the country that didn't need fixing.

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xukeith
06-22-2019, 06:38 PM
Dana O'Neill wrote a very good article for The Athletic about the BE and UConn.

In it she wrote UConn gets $7 million from the AAC ESPN TV package.

She mentioned Fox Sports package with BE schools was about mega (i forgot)million. How much of that goes to X? Or is it equally divided among the non-disclosing private schools?

paulxu
06-22-2019, 06:48 PM
Someone made the observation that the AAC could stay at 11 and not add to replace UConn.
Then they could play a 20 game round robin like us.

noteggs
06-22-2019, 07:08 PM
Ok this hilarious (at least I think so), UC fans are now downgrading UConn since they’ve been in the ACC. sUCKs fans say they haven’t done anything since joining the league. UConn fans, “what about a NCAA championship in 2014?” UC fans, well that’s because you just came out the Big East with talent...what?

Did UConn get worse when they had ACC talent? Maybe, certainly coaching was a problem.

Finally, UConn fans state they’ve won 4 titles in last 20 years. UC fans say you have to go back 20 years. Is this this the same fans that go back to the 60’s when they talk about UC vs X dominance? Hmmm.

scoscox
06-22-2019, 07:09 PM
this is just a wonderful day to browse twitter. so many great takes
https://twitter.com/fredmartin0028/status/1142541382202155008
one of my faves

paulxu
06-22-2019, 07:37 PM
Ok this hilarious (at least I think so), UC fans are now downgrading UConn since they’ve been in the ACC.

UC fans can only dream of being in the ACC.

noteggs
06-22-2019, 07:43 PM
UC fans can only dream of being in the ACC.

Lol...knew I’d make that mistake one day. Good catch!

Juice
06-22-2019, 09:25 PM
You're assuming UCONN improves and adds value to men's basketball in the conference. That's not a sure thing. They were at the bottom of conference standings last season and recruiting hasn't offered much hope. Hurley does, but you never know.

I don't care about UD or if they sell more tickets at Big East tournament. They already have the strongest attendance and UD is never on the radar.

I do care about the level of competition for the student athletes, what it offers for fans, and if XU still has a good shot to excel in the standings. I think some of that is really questionable with the move and they already had one of the better situations in the country that didn't need fixing.

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They have 3 4-star players coming in and their class is ranked ahead of ours on 247 Sports.

xudash
06-22-2019, 09:54 PM
You're assuming UCONN improves and adds value to men's basketball in the conference. That's not a sure thing. They were at the bottom of conference standings last season and recruiting hasn't offered much hope. Hurley does, but you never know.

I don't care about UD or if they sell more tickets at Big East tournament. They already have the strongest attendance and UD is never on the radar.

I do care about the level of competition for the student athletes, what it offers for fans, and if XU still has a good shot to excel in the standings. I think some of that is really questionable with the move and they already had one of the better situations in the country that didn't need fixing.

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I guess you'll need to wait and witness what happens with the BE media package moving forward once UCONN makes it into the BE.

Otherwise, my thoughts and comments about UD were in passing. I would truly hate to be a VD fan right about now.

scoscox
06-22-2019, 10:00 PM
https://www.zagsblog.com/2019/06/22/uconns-move-to-the-big-east-will-boost-recruiting-coaches-say/

their recruiting could potentially explode with this move

bobbiemcgee
06-22-2019, 10:25 PM
I see how this helps UConn.
How does this benefit X?

UConn is a good "name" but they are struggling.

Now BE schools split the $ among 11 schools. Maybe X gets a better TV deal package.

Fox and the Big East signed a 12-year $500 million agreement in 2013, with the potential to see that number jump to $600 million if the league were to expand from ten schools to 12. So I'm guessing going to 11 will not split the $.
Plus UConn has a huge following in the East and should pack arenas and the MSG, help us with Inter-conference games and extensions of the MSG and Fox contracts. Great deal for X and the conference.

GoMuskies
06-22-2019, 10:35 PM
The only negative for Xavier is that Hurley is going to recruit like a beast now that he's got the Big East to sell. We may move from #2 to #3 in the Big East pecking order for now. I'm okay with that for a short time. Then we'll move to #1, and that will mean we're one of the best teams in the country.

scoscox
06-22-2019, 11:23 PM
The only negative for Xavier is that Hurley is going to recruit like a beast now that he's got the Big East to sell. We may move from #2 to #3 in the Big East pecking order for now. I'm okay with that for a short time. Then we'll move to #1, and that will mean we're one of the best teams in the country.

Hopefully it'll will be a positive for our recruiting. i would think uconn back in the conference would solidify the big east in a lot of recruit's eyes as truly the big time. if we continue to have success maybe it pushes us over the edge into the world of a few 5 star recruits down the line

waggy
06-23-2019, 01:12 AM
Who knew women's basketball 3rd tier rights could be the tipping point? Always thought Geno is pompous arse, but I'm becoming a big fan.

X-man
06-23-2019, 07:13 AM
And right on cue...ESPN reprises its "Requiem for the Big East": https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/index.

Juice
06-23-2019, 10:19 AM
@NoEscalators
NCAA Tournament wins as AAC members:
UConn - 7
All other AAC schools combined - 8


RedditCFB
@RedditCFB
UConn is the only AAC team to win an NCAA Championship in the conference's 6-year history since rebranding. Here are the 7 they've won:
• Men's ��: 2014
• Women's ��: 2014, 2015, 2016
• ��: 2013, 2014, 2017

paulxu
06-23-2019, 10:29 AM
If they're champions of ???, then we're champions of XXX.

Juice
06-23-2019, 10:46 AM
If they're champions of ???, then we're champions of XXX.

Ha, those were emojis that didn't translate. It's basketball, basketball, and field hockey.

Muskie in dayton
06-23-2019, 12:06 PM
And right on cue...ESPN reprises its "Requiem for the Big East": https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/index.

Fake sports news.

xukeith
06-23-2019, 12:56 PM
Maybe Jones and Marshall would not have come to X if UConn was in the BE 3 years ago.

It will help recruiting and attendance.

One twitter comment regarding this was 20 conference games and 5 Philly games for Villanova leaves them little room to schedule outside a 3 game holiday tourney.
Villanova likes 20 BE games vs 18?

X-band '01
06-23-2019, 01:46 PM
It might also mean that they don't play a true round robin Big 5, which would be a potential downside. I don't think it would happen as long as Jay Wright is coach, but a future Nova coach might not be as keen to playing other Big 5 schools (which is 4 games, not 5).

Jumpin_Jamal_Forever
06-23-2019, 02:46 PM
Fox and the Big East signed a 12-year $500 million agreement in 2013, with the potential to see that number jump to $600 million if the league were to expand from ten schools to 12. So I'm guessing going to 11 will not split the $.
Plus UConn has a huge following in the East and should pack arenas and the MSG, help us with Inter-conference games and extensions of the MSG and Fox contracts. Great deal for X and the conference.

UCONN has such a strong + relatively recent BE history, its return will strengthen an already powerful conference even more. Yes, it will mean that X has to further improve its recruiting and on court performance. But, a rising tide lifts all boats. If you are a local kid, you can come to X and play the likes of Nova, Georgetown or UCONN, etc. etc. Or, you can go to UC and play SMU, Tulane and East Carolina. Only an idiot would choose UC.

But, I wonder if adding UCONN makes it nearly inevitable the conference will expand to twelve. The additional $100 million is a strong incentive for adding just one more member. And money does talk.

If the BE goes to 12, it might mean splitting the conference into East + West, perhaps playing only home and away games within each region while rotating annual home and away outside of the region. What I'm suggesting is pure speculation, for sure. But, if BE goes to twelve members, playing both home and away games with each conference member would leave little opportunity for out of conference opponents. For X, how would we fit UCLA into our schedule?

And, although not a popular suggestion on this board, if BE goes to twelve and if I have a vote it would be to admit the Dayton Liars. Yes. There I've said it---excommunicate me for sure. But, here's why...……..

Yes UD, its an institution with fake academics and a student body which spends its entire four years on campus drunk and/or high, making not even a pretense at gaining an education. Yes, it is a school that has ridden the XU coattails through multiple conferences while making few, if any, positive contributions along the way. As an institution, they lied to their fellow members about their intention to leave the MCC and in the nearly 170 years of its existence UD has produced not even one, that's right, not one successful alum.

But, without question, UD has college basketball's most annoying fans. And, what is more satisfying than watching the Muskies go into UD arena to give the Liars and their irritating fan base of troublesome little twats, the annual smackdown they so deserve? Nothing is more satisfying than that unless it is administering that drubbing to them twice annually.

waggy
06-23-2019, 03:03 PM
I would be okay with 12 it were Kentucky.

scoscox
06-23-2019, 03:12 PM
Please never post again Jamal. I agree with Waggy

bobbiemcgee
06-23-2019, 03:26 PM
1. We worked hard and long to separate our program from VD and become the obvious 1st choice for the BE realignment. They haven't.
2. Everybody, coaches, players and fans LOVE the Round Robin.
3. All the reasons you listed NOT to play VD.
4. If VD was to get in the BE, we would have to go through recruiting battles for the same midwestern/national prospects. Right now, our recruiting is FAR above theirs. No prospect would ever consider VD over X.
5. The A10 will be the 12th conference if VCU leaves to the AAC. Why would we pick a school from a Deadpool.
6. I'd prefer a H/H with Gonzaga every year.
7. I'm enjoying the meltdown on the VD board.

X-man
06-23-2019, 03:35 PM
1. We worked hard and long to separate our program from VD and become the obvious 1st choice for the BE realignment. They haven't.
2. Everybody, coaches, players and fans LOVE the Round Robin.
3. All the reasons you listed NOT to play VD.
4. If VD was to get in the BE, we would have to go through recruiting battles for the same midwestern/national prospects. Right now, our recruiting is FAR above theirs. No prospect would ever consider VD over X.
5. The A10 will be the 12th conference if VCU leaves to the AAC. Why would we pick a school from a Deadpool.
6. I'd prefer a H/H with Gonzaga every year.

What he said. How idiotic to think that VD belongs in our conference. We bailed them once, helping them get into the A-10. Never again. And I can't see the BE going to 12 teams when 11 suits H-H scheduling perfectly. The league might expand if the Zags come asking, but surely not for the sweater vest crowd.

waggy
06-23-2019, 03:40 PM
X should forever be against any further expansion beyond 11. Reason it means divisions, and then you don't get to play the eastern teams twice. It's best for X to have round robin.

xudash
06-23-2019, 04:28 PM
Please never post again Jamal. I agree with Waggy

Massive Ditto.

Jamal, you have lost your f'ing mind. You are basing your reasoning on putting annoying fans in their place, yet they would still be annoying. Hell, they would make stupid excuses (e.g. cheesesteak sandwich indigestion) when we would beat them like a drum. They actually thought they were going to give us a good game in Orlando. We would have to live with all that regardless of game outcomes, even more so, if VD were allowed in the BE.

It isn't happening.

What you don't appear to understand is that this kind of actually and very much so has VERY LITTLE to do with basketball. This is a strategic issue for Xavier. Xavier's goal is to continue to raise its institutional profile, becoming the premier Catholic institution of higher learning in Ohio. Actually, it's about more than that when it comes to positioning, but the immediate topic is mostly about VD. We're close if not already there in actuality on the Ohio thing anyway, but X wants to clean up its position in some of the ranking services to close whatever image gap may exist, especially at the national level.

The endowment is heading to $300 million.

An additional $80 million is going into the capital improvements/projects account.

And the annual fund is getting deeper.

Xavier's move into the Big East and now UCONN solidifying an already strong BE conference places Xavier with a strong tailwind. UD is facing increasing headwinds in its situation. THAT is exactly the way we want it and want it to stay.

And when it gets back to basketball specifically, WAGGY and BOBBIE are spot on. Xavier's recruiting (i.e. student recruiting, not athletes) out of the tri-state region is steadily increasing. That's no accident.

One last thing. You noted the following: But, I wonder if adding UCONN makes it nearly inevitable the conference will expand to twelve. The additional $100 million is a strong incentive for adding just one more member. And money does talk.

The additional $100 million incentive has to make monetary sense to FOX in order for it to trigger. UCONN was an obvious trigger from 10 to 11. No existing mid-major is positioned well enough at this time to trigger this gig from 11 to 12. Otherwise, Gonzaga still remains in Spokane, WA. The Zags had better pray to God that Few lives forever, or that they experience a smooth coaching transition when his time comes to step down. It's like Xavier is in a fleet of high-tech, powerful warships, and Gonzaga is like one of those ships, but surrounded by a WCC fleet of plywood PT boats.

Jumpin_Jamal_Forever
06-23-2019, 04:31 PM
What he said. How idiotic to think that VD belongs in our conference. We bailed them once, helping them get into the A-10. Never again. And I can't see the BE going to 12 teams when 11 suits H-H scheduling perfectly. The league might expand if the Zags come asking, but surely not for the sweater vest crowd.

I'm a little confused. Are you saying you are against it?

SM#24
06-23-2019, 04:54 PM
Why do so many assume the BE needs 12 ? They don't. If they did, they would have already been there.
Also, why do so many assume if 12, the BE would split into divisions ? No one does that anymore.

bleedXblue
06-23-2019, 05:15 PM
Why do so many assume the BE needs 12 ? They don't. If they did, they would have already been there.
Also, why do so many assume if 12, the BE would split into divisions ? No one does that anymore.

Just follow the money......always. If it means a bigger TV deal, then they will go to 12.

No reason IMHO to NEED to add another program soon unless that program would add significant value. UD doesn't do that. St Louis doesn't do that. Gonzaga.........yes, that would. Memphis would, but I'm not a big fan of their program.....at all.

Xavgrad08
06-23-2019, 05:49 PM
I thought this article from UConn’s perspective was good. https://www.nhregister.com/sports/article/Jeff-Jacobs-Move-to-Big-East-could-be-right-14030991.php?utm_campaign=CMS%20Sharing%20Tools%20 (Desktop)&utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=referral.

bjf123
06-23-2019, 07:54 PM
X should forever be against any further expansion beyond 11. Reason it means divisions, and then you don't get to play the eastern teams twice. It's best for X to have round robin.

What he said. I really like the round robin and playing everyone home and home.


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X-band '01
06-23-2019, 08:30 PM
Also keep in mind that the WCC made a sweetheart deal to keep Gonzaga in the conference. They reduced their number of conference games to 16 so they could schedule more quality OOC games. Plus, they also get a bigger share of their conference tournament units.

Honestly, the only other program even worth considering would be Notre Dame if the ACC ever decided to divorce them because of their insistence on football independence. Even that ain't happening.

bleedXblue
06-23-2019, 08:46 PM
The Gonzaga thing would be great, but the huge challenge for them would be the amount of travel time in the air going back and forth from Spokane. Doesnt seem like a big deal, but it would be. Thats 5-6 hours in the air each way for almost every trip. I just don't see it working.

scoscox
06-23-2019, 08:54 PM
7. I'm enjoying the meltdown on the VD board.

agreed. this move has provided tremendous message board and twitter entertainment from all kinds of places

Juice
06-23-2019, 08:56 PM
agreed. this move has provided tremendous message board and twitter entertainment from all kinds of places

The mental gymnastics the UD and UC fans are doing over the UConn is nothing short of hilarious.

Xuperman
06-24-2019, 04:58 AM
Honestly, the only other program even worth considering would be Notre Dame if the ACC ever decided to divorce them because of their insistence on football independence. Even that ain't happening.

The Notre Dame situation has always been a fascinating one. They are able to keep their vast football revenue out of the hands of fellow conference members with out adding much basketball wise.....never understood how the likes of Clemson/F. St. put up with it.

I have always thought that the Irish would make the most sense for expansion being the most famous private/Catholic school in the country and any conflict with football $$$$ would not be an issue. So I agree with you, now that we are firmly set with UConn on board, Notre Dame would be the only slam dunk to warrant a 12th member.

joe titan
06-24-2019, 08:21 AM
The Notre Dame situation has always been a fascinating one. They are able to keep their vast football revenue out of the hands of fellow conference members with out adding much basketball wise.....never understood how the likes of Clemson/F. St. put up with it.

I have always thought that the Irish would make the most sense for expansion being the most famous private/Catholic school in the country and any conflict with football $$$$ would not be an issue. So I agree with you, now that we are firmly set with UConn on board, Notre Dame would be the only slam dunk to warrant a 12th member.

ND allied itself w/ ACC mostly to enhance other/nonrevenue/women's sports; UConn women's hoops might be good bait for ND.

X-band '01
06-24-2019, 08:32 AM
The Notre Dame situation has always been a fascinating one. They are able to keep their vast football revenue out of the hands of fellow conference members with out adding much basketball wise.....never understood how the likes of Clemson/F. St. put up with it.



The only real complaint that Clemson and Florida State would have with Notre Dame would be the Irish bypassing a conference championship game to get into the College Football Playoff. It will be a moot point once the playoff inevitably expands.

Just having Notre Dame in the mix for scheduling and bowl arrangements is something the ACC isn't going to snub just for the insistence of Notre Dame playing a full conference schedule.

D-West & PO-Z
06-24-2019, 09:12 AM
My favorite part of all of this is the AAC fans on twitter actually trying to argue that thew AAC has been and will be the better basketball conference. Stats, bid, tourney wins dont matter to these people, if they think it, it is true!

noteggs
06-24-2019, 11:06 AM
My favorite part of all of this is the AAC fans on twitter actually trying to argue that thew AAC has been and will be the better basketball conference. Stats, bid, tourney wins dont matter to these people, if they think it, it is true!

Welcome back brother! It’s been a while.

D-West & PO-Z
06-24-2019, 11:35 AM
Welcome back brother! It’s been a while.

Thanks! Yeah my life has been crazy with my triplets being born and some unexpected medical issues for myself. Everyone doing well now though.

throwbackmuskie
06-24-2019, 12:14 PM
What took so long? I mean anyone with common sense knew as soon as UCONN did not get into the Big 12 or the ACC knew this was coming.

I laugh at all the UC fans who are not bothered by this, complete denial on their part. The Big East has positioned it's self to be a big player moving forward once the P5 makes their football split.

20 round robin games, thank you!

SM#24
06-24-2019, 04:13 PM
Just follow the money......always. If it means a bigger TV deal, then they will go to 12.

No reason IMHO to NEED to add another program soon unless that program would add significant value. UD doesn't do that. St Louis doesn't do that. Gonzaga.........yes, that would. Memphis would, but I'm not a big fan of their program.....at all.
That's pretty much what I was getting at, if there were programs out there that made sense, we would have already been at 11 or 12. UConn was the only remotely realistic one. Financially and otherwise, I'm not sure how much value Gonzaga or Memphis would really add. I know Gonzaga is a sexy name and quality program these days, but there's the whole Spokane thing. We should stop at UConn ! I'm a big fan of the round robin scheduling. ND is the only school we should give that up for and they're not going anywhere, even for UConn WBB.

Juice
06-24-2019, 05:16 PM
The only real complaint that Clemson and Florida State would have with Notre Dame would be the Irish bypassing a conference championship game to get into the College Football Playoff. It will be a moot point once the playoff inevitably expands.

Just having Notre Dame in the mix for scheduling and bowl arrangements is something the ACC isn't going to snub just for the insistence of Notre Dame playing a full conference schedule.

ND plays 5 games a year with ACC teams. I would imagine that's pretty valuable to the ACC.

muethibp
06-24-2019, 05:48 PM
This thread isn't going into the XavierHoops hall of fame. LOL.

UCONN to the BE is great. Anyone saying otherwise is pretty far out there.

xu koop scoop
06-24-2019, 09:04 PM
This thread isn't going into the XavierHoops hall of fame. LOL.

UCONN to the BE is great. Anyone saying otherwise is pretty far out there.

Short term UConn to the BE is great. Long term it may only be great if they give up football. Seeing how they play in a State owned 40,000 seat stadium - the State may push them to keep football. Who else would be tenant in that stadium? Should an opening appear to join a P5 Football Conference, then bye bye BE.

xudash
06-24-2019, 09:28 PM
Short term UConn to the BE is great. Long term it may only be great if they give up football. Seeing how they play in a State owned 40,000 seat stadium - the State may push them to keep football. Who else would be tenant in that stadium? Should an opening appear to join a P5 Football Conference, then bye bye BE.

I doubt the politicians in the state and most of its residents do not want to have good money following bad money. It would seem as though they will be going in the direction of becoming an independent for football. If that doesn't work, then it is very likely that the football program will be shut down.