Drama in Clifton

[Masterofreality]

Hey look. I don't know if John Brannen is a good guy or not. All I know is that he is now the head coach of the Clifton Cretins and therefore the enemy. I look forward to building hate against him in some form. I do know one thing-those assclowns who are SucKS honks will always be the AntiChrist to me and I never want any good things in their basketball lives.

In the meantime, it is pleasant to see that Brooks has entered the Transfer Portal and that Cumberland has placed his name in the NBA Draft and intends on hiring an agent, although now that means he could still come back. I read somewhere that Samari Curtis was "rumored" to be reconsidering his LOI and was "thinking" of pulling away from the Borecats. Has anyone heard anything on this or has there been any report on this?

Any more word on the continuing drama as stories developed would be appreciated and posted here. Nice to see that clifton college is a steppingstone program in both football and basketball and that the unending Thuggins coaching string has finally been broken. That circus played in town way too damn long. Hope they enjoy their lives in the purgatory of the AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAC.

[drudy23]

As is true with us, it all comes back to recruits. It's not easy to convince 4 and 5 stars to play in the AAC.

I think you will see a completely different brand of basketball and basketball player as this evolves at UC. I think Brannen will follow more of Xavier's recruiting profile than Micks or Huggins.

[GoMuskies]

It's not easy to convince 4 and 5 stars to play in the AAC.


Someone tell Penny!

There's no reason that the AAC should be a major impediment to them recruiting well and having an excellent program. In football? Sure. But in basketball there's no reason they can't be more than fine. But I will enjoy it when they suck!

[scoscox]

There are a few obstacles to recruiting in the aac. 1. Their media rights deal is awful. Recruits will be on national tv like twice a year. 2. The geography of the conference is all over the place. Uconn, temple, and Cincinnati have to recruit guys to go play Tulsa, Ecu, and USF

Penny has had success so far with aau connections and who knows how long that will last and UConn has done a good job under Hurley. It’s possible to recruit well but there are certainly disadvantages

[JTG]

Someone tell Penny!

There's no reason that the AAC should be a major impediment to them recruiting well and having an excellent program. In football? Sure. But in basketball there's no reason they can't be more than fine. But I will enjoy it when they suck!

Memphis pays too well to not get recruits. They've been real dirty for at least 30 years.

[bjf123]

It will depend on how much success Brannen has. If he is routinely getting to the Sweet 16 or Elite 8, he’ll be able to recruit better talent. The first few years will be tough.


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[GoMuskies]

Memphis pays too well to not get recruits.

Based on the events of the past year....so does everyone else who gets recruits.

[xavierj]

Based on the events of the past year....so does everyone else who gets recruits.

Yep and no reason not to. Miller and Wade were just told no worries, keep doing what you are doing. Some one from the investigation just said Sean is clearly paying players but doesn’t need to testify but we will turn over to the NCAA. Meaning he is good to go.

[paulxu]

But I will enjoy it when they suck!

Well, except for the Shockers :)

[paulxu]

Also, UCLA should be in great shape. Mick's bringing the significant ingredient with him.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1120336532945158144

[GoMuskies]

Well, except for the Shockers :)

I was talking specifically about UC. I don't have anything against anyone else in the AAC. I'd generally prefer AAC teams to do well as opposed to your average Big Ten or ACC team.

[Masterofreality]

Here's what I want to know.

Is there any college in the country that is NOT a "Special Place"?
That is the ultimate Buzzword for any new coach or departing coach. Everything is special. (YAWN)

[GoMuskies]

Is there any college in the country that is NOT a "Special Place"?


I tried to think of a place no one could possibly describe as a "special place". I came up with Arkansas-Pine Bluff. Using the Google machine, I checked to see if I could find anyone willing to call UAPB a special place. At this link (http://www.uapb.edu/administration/enrollment_management/lions_program/lions_parents_page.aspx) it is, sure enough, described as a "special place". Therefore, I have now scientifically proven that there is no college in the United States that is not a "special place".

[xu82]

Also, UCLA should be in great shape. Mick's bringing the significant ingredient with him.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1120336532945158144

Is that, like....in a Petrie dish?

[sirthought]

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[paulxu]

Any place that has Makers Mark, is a "special place."

For example: Danas is a special place.

[XUGRAD80]

Any place that has Makers Mark, is a "special place."

For example: Danas is a special place.

Don’t know about that making it special.....but where there is Maker’s it is definitely GOOD!

[bleedXblue]

A "special place" is otherwise known as coach speak for a university that was willing to pay them more and give them a big, fat contract. Its such bullshit

[XUGRAD80]

A "special place" is otherwise known as coach speak for a university that was willing to pay them more and give them a big, fat contract. Its such bullshit

Sure it is, but what else should we expect a coach to say?

“This is a really crappy place and the facilities suck. The education and degree aren’t worth the paper they are written on. But, they are willing to pay me more money than I ever expected I would make. And that’s makes them a special kind of stupid.”

Translated.....”this is a special place”.

[Masterofreality]

I tried to think of a place no one could possibly describe as a "special place". I came up with Arkansas-Pine Bluff. Using the Google machine, I checked to see if I could find anyone willing to call UAPB a special place. At this link (http://www.uapb.edu/administration/enrollment_management/lions_program/lions_parents_page.aspx) it is, sure enough, described as a "special place". Therefore, I have now scientifically proven that there is no college in the United States that is not a "special place".

Thank you Go. I can now rest easy that every single college in America is a "special place"- except for, of course, Clifton College of Zero Knowledge.
I have a great politically incorrect statement to go with that, but I'm sure that many would take it as offensive. I only spread Love.

Meanwhile I am rife with anticipation that Curtis will opt out of his LOI and Cumberland will stay in the draft. Meanwhile we'll see how Brannen recruits now that he has to get a higher level kid than he did at No KY. He's gonna be competing now with Travis, Mack, Holtman, Calapari, Archie, Painter and Thuggins for high level tri-state kids. He could just take second tier at No KY but that ain't gonna pacify the Clifton Cretins. He also hasn't won any games vs High Level competition either in his 3 years. Vs. lower level Horizon League and loops of that ilk, ok but he's in the big time now.

Different stratosphere.

[Xville]

Thank you Go. I can now rest easy that every single college in America is a "special place"- except for, of course, Clifton College of Zero Knowledge.
I have a great politically incorrect statement to go with that, but I'm sure that many would take it as offensive. I only spread Love.

Meanwhile I am rife with anticipation that Curtis will opt out of his LOI and Cumberland will stay in the draft. Meanwhile we'll see how Brannen recruits now that he has to get a higher level kid than he did at No KY. He's gonna be competing now with Travis, Mack, Holtman, Calapari, Archie, Painter and Thuggins for high level tri-state kids. He could just take second tier at No KY but that ain't gonna pacify the Clifton Cretins. He also hasn't won any games vs High Level competition either in his 3 years. Vs. lower level Horizon League and loops of that ilk, ok but he's in the big time now.

Different stratosphere.

It's funny...your second paragraph have many of the same thoughts/feelings that louisville fans had/have about mack.

[XUGRAD80]

I really believe that Brannen will do an excellent job at UC. I do think it likely that Cumberland leaves, and quite possible that Curtis ends up somewhere else. This will mean that he relies on those returning players that stay, some graduate transfers, and possibly a JUCO or two....sounds familiar doesn’t it?

It’s really about what most coaches coming into a new program, and taking over for a long term coach, experience.

I know that a lot of people on this board, and especially those that haven’t spent most of their lives in this area either don’t want to hear or don’t don’t understand, but UC is a good school. It is a MAjOR university and has a very good reputation in some areas of study. NEITHER UC or X have relied on local recruits for their basketball programs, and BOTH have already been spending considerable efforts recruiting against the likes of those you have mentioned. Brannen didn’t have a pipeline to the 2nd tier locals, while at NKU, either. Most of his recruits came from outside the area. NKU, by the way, has about 3X the enrollment of X and has some programs that X does not. He has established connections with HS coaches in the area and beyond. He will probably concentrate his efforts on Ohio, KY, and Ind., but that’s not different than what X was doing with Mack at the helm. I think he will do alright.

I really don’t see that as a problem for X. Does it hurt Duke when NC is good? The top kids want to go to the top schools and play the best competition. Competition makes everyone enrolled raise their levels. X may lose an occasional kid to UC, but overall a strong U of CINCINNATI May also help Xavier..a CINCINNATI school...to also attract talent to the area, especially talent from OUTSIDE the area.

[bleedXblue]

I really believe that Brannen will do an excellent job at UC. I do think it likely that Cumberland leaves, and quite possible that Curtis ends up somewhere else. This will mean that he relies on those returning players that stay, some graduate transfers, and possibly a JUCO or two....sounds familiar doesn’t it?

It’s really about what most coaches coming into a new program, and taking over for a long term coach, experience.

I know that a lot of people on this board, and especially those that haven’t spent most of their lives in this area either don’t want to hear or don’t don’t understand, but UC is a good school. It is a MAjOR university and has a very good reputation in some areas of study. NEITHER UC or X have relied on local recruits for their basketball programs, and BOTH have already been spending considerable efforts recruiting against the likes of those you have mentioned. Brannen didn’t have a pipeline to the 2nd tier locals, while at NKU, either. Most of his recruits came from outside the area. NKU, by the way, has about 3X the enrollment of X and has some programs that X does not. He has established connections with HS coaches in the area and beyond. He will probably concentrate his efforts on Ohio, KY, and Ind., but that’s not different than what X was doing with Mack at the helm. I think he will do alright.

I really don’t see that as a problem for X. Does it hurt Duke when NC is good? The top kids want to go to the top schools and play the best competition. Competition makes everyone enrolled raise their levels. X may lose an occasional kid to UC, but overall a strong U of CINCINNATI May also help Xavier..a CINCINNATI school...to also attract talent to the area, especially talent from OUTSIDE the area.

I am amazed the hatred for UC by some. Conversely, they have many fans that hope we never win another game. I do wish we could coexist better except for one day a year........

[noteggs]

I am amazed the hatred for UC by some. Conversely, they have many fans that hope we never win another game. I do wish we could coexist better except for one day a year........

I get your point. However, if you look back at the series when I was there in the late ‘80s, the lack of respect X got was unbelievable. Not only from the UC fans but the media as well. Also, the city seemed to be 100% behind the cats. Not to say we deserved more, but it still pissed me off and still does!

Obviously a lot has changed, however old wounds are hard to heal.

So they are still sUCks to me!

[Murph85]

I get your point. However, if you look back at the series when I was there in the late ‘80s, the lack of respect X got was unbelievable. Not only from the UC fans but the media as well. Also, the city seemed to be 100% behind the cats. Not to say we deserved more, but it still pissed me off and still does!

Obviously a lot has changed, however old wounds are hard to heal.

So they are still sUCks to me!

This is the first time since moving back to Cincy in 1992 that I do not hate the UC coach. I hope to be able to watch them without wanting them to lose but only time will tell.

Also, isn't it a bit odd Brannen still has not hired any assistant coaches? Steele had his lined up in about a week.

[bleedXblue]

I get your point. However, if you look back at the series when I was there in the late ‘80s, the lack of respect X got was unbelievable. Not only from the UC fans but the media as well. Also, the city seemed to be 100% behind the cats. Not to say we deserved more, but it still pissed me off and still does!

Obviously a lot has changed, however old wounds are hard to heal.

So they are still sUCks to me!


We honestly didn't really deserve any respect back then, we had to earn and have....

You think we respect programs and look at them the same way we look at ourselves.......like NKU, Miami, Wright State, Ohio U ? I mean come on........

[noteggs]

We honestly didn't really deserve any respect back then.

This is why I said: “Not to say we deserved more, but it still pissed me off and still does!”

So yes the envy was self-induced.

[GIMMFD]

This is the first time since moving back to Cincy in 1992 that I do not hate the UC coach. I hope to be able to watch them without wanting them to lose but only time will tell.

Also, isn't it a bit odd Brannen still has not hired any assistant coaches? Steele had his lined up in about a week.

Yeah I despised Mick Cronin because he was a jackass, but I have no feelings of hate towards Brannen, I think he has the ability to be a great hire, so that should keep the Shootout interesting every year (though it usually is no matter what the rankings are, etc.), I just don't have the ability to hate him, I don't hate UC as much as I did in undergrad, it's now more of just a annoyance than anything...

Also, not sure what the timeline usually is on assistants, but he's probably taking his time to ensure he can transition into a new conference and higher expectations, a bigger university, etc. as smoothly as possible, and maybe wants to see if anybody on the old staff could fit and ease the transition. Not too sure, but that's my guess.

[SM#24]

I am amazed the hatred for UC by some. Conversely, they have many fans that hope we never win another game. I do wish we could coexist better except for one day a year........
Why ?

[SM#24]

This is the first time since moving back to Cincy in 1992 that I do not hate the UC coach. I hope to be able to watch them without wanting them to lose but only time will tell.

Also, isn't it a bit odd Brannen still has not hired any assistant coaches? Steele had his lined up in about a week.
Why ?

[OH.X.MI]

Why ?

A lot of candy ass "let's just get along" fans coming out of the woodwork with Brannen's hire. Sad to see.

[XUGRAD80]

A lot of candy ass "let's just get along" fans coming out of the woodwork with Brannen's hire. Sad to see.

Sorry to disappoint you. But how does “hating” them make a difference? Can’t I just be happy with how X does?

[Masterofreality]

Sorry to disappoint you. But how does “hating” them make a difference? Can’t I just be happy with how X does?

They are a f-ing RIVAL. Just like Michigan is to Ohio State, just like North Carolina and Duke, just like Marquette and Wisconsin. C'mon man. They are 3 miles away from us, are trying to recruit the same kids we are, are trying to take our candy and rule the city just like always. You mean their fans are always so solicitous to XU when we whip their asses, and they don't love to rub it in when they happen to win?
Look. If they are not with us, they're against us...and attempting to win the same thing we are- if not a National Championship, the Crown of the City. You care about going back to second fiddle again? Well, go ahead but don't expect me to come with you. I've already been there and done that when we couldn't get a radio deal, could barely get in the paper and hardly got a mention on TV.

Clifton College will always be a hated rival in sports. That's the way it is.

[XUGRAD80]

They are a f-ing RIVAL. Just like Michigan is to Ohio State, just like North Carolina and Duke, just like Marquette and Wisconsin. C'mon man. They are 3 miles away from us, are trying to recruit the same kids we are, are trying to take our candy and rule the city just like always. You mean their fans are always so solicitous to XU when we whip their asses, and they don't love to rub it in when they happen to win?
Look. If they are not with us, they're against us...and attempting to win the same thing we are- if not a National Championship, the Crown of the City. You care about going back to second fiddle again? Well, go ahead but don't expect me to come with you. I've already been there and done that when we couldn't get a radio deal, could barely get in the paper and hardly got a mention on TV.

Clifton College will always be a hated rival in sports. That's the way it is.


Despite all your rage, you’re still just a rat in a cage........in other words, nothing you say or do on a message board effects them in any way. Hating them doesn’t do any good for anyone. Either they don’t know about it, or they don’t care. The only one who feels any effect is you.

Does that mean I don’t root like anything for X? No it doesn’t. I want X to win every game, no matter who they play. Do I care just a little bit more when they are playing UC? Yes, I do. But other than that 1X a year, I really don’t care if UC loses. I don’t root against them. I don’t really root for them either. It’s more about being apathetic, than anything else. Why should I waste any of myself really caring one way or another. My dream would be to see X win every game, including the NC, and to have them give UC it’s only 2 loses of the year....in the shootout and in the NC game. How sweet would it be to have them come so close to winning a NC and only to have it snatched away by the Muskies in the final game? Other than that, I really don’t care that much. I’ll watch them with my UC buddies, but I don’t get upset when they lose and don’t get happy when they win, or vice versa. How I feel about UC is comparable to how I feel about Cleveland.....they’re there, but they really don’t matter that much.

[bjf123]

Despite all your rage, you’re still just a rat in a cage........in other words, nothing you say or do on a message board effects them in any way. Hating them doesn’t do any good for anyone. Either they don’t know about it, or they don’t care. The only one who feels any effect is you.

Does that mean I don’t root like anything for X? No it doesn’t. I want X to win every game, no matter who they play. Do I care just a little bit more when they are playing UC? Yes, I do. But other than that 1X a year, I really don’t care if UC loses. I don’t root against them. I don’t really root for them either. It’s more about being apathetic, than anything else. Why should I waste any of myself really caring one way or another. My dream would be to see X win every game, including the NC, and to have them give UC it’s only 2 loses of the year....in the shootout and in the NC game. How sweet would it be to have them come so close to winning a NC and only to have it snatched away by the Muskies in the final game? Other than that, I really don’t care that much. I’ll watch them with my UC buddies, but I don’t get upset when they lose and don’t get happy when they win, or vice versa. How I feel about UC is comparable to how I feel about Cleveland.....they’re there, but they really don’t matter that much.

What he said.


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[OH.X.MI]

Despite all your rage, you’re still just a rat in a cage........in other words, nothing you say or do on a message board effects them in any way. Hating them doesn’t do any good for anyone. Either they don’t know about it, or they don’t care. The only one who feels any effect is you.

Does that mean I don’t root like anything for X? No it doesn’t. I want X to win every game, no matter who they play. Do I care just a little bit more when they are playing UC? Yes, I do. But other than that 1X a year, I really don’t care if UC loses. I don’t root against them. I don’t really root for them either. It’s more about being apathetic, than anything else. Why should I waste any of myself really caring one way or another. My dream would be to see X win every game, including the NC, and to have them give UC it’s only 2 loses of the year....in the shootout and in the NC game. How sweet would it be to have them come so close to winning a NC and only to have it snatched away by the Muskies in the final game? Other than that, I really don’t care that much. I’ll watch them with my UC buddies, but I don’t get upset when they lose and don’t get happy when they win, or vice versa. How I feel about UC is comparable to how I feel about Cleveland.....they’re there, but they really don’t matter that much.

At least we now know who attended the post-brawl Reflection Session.

[Caf]

Sorry to disappoint you. But how does “hating” them make a difference? Can’t I just be happy with how X does?

How does not hating them make a difference?

[GoMuskies]

Hating UC basketball is good for the soul. Indifference causes cancer.

[surfxu]

First and foremost, root on the Muskies. Would never say I'm a better fan than the next person just because of whether I root against any program that may or may not have a U and/or a C in their name... or to a lesser extent a U and/or a D... but I do find myself more on the side of MOR on this one, but I go to church on Sundays so if that's some sort of sin then I've got a pretty good book that tells me I am forgiven.

[SM#24]

My dream would be to see X win every game, including the NC, and to have them give UC it’s only 2 loses of the year....in the shootout and in the NC game.

Regardless of what X's outcome is, you're talking about a season in which UC loses only one non-con game to the eventual national champ, goes undefeated in conference and goes on a run all the way to the final game...no sir, I don't think I'd like that at all.
My ideal season would be the X part (undefeated national champs) and UC loses every game by so much, we're criticized for scheduling them and their 350 NET rating.
They are evil and people with no souls. When I think of UC, I also think of ISIS.

[GoMuskies]

When I think of UC, I also think of ISIS.

Why you have to insult ISIS?!?

[SM#24]

The closest evil I could think of. I almost said Elizabeth Warren, but wrong thread.

[Xville]

The closest evil I could think of. I almost said Elizabeth Warren, but wrong thread.

how dare you disparage the Native American Culture :)

[GIMMFD]

I don't understand not hating a rival, yeah I know it has zero outcome on the game, but it's fun, it's part of what makes sports passionate for me, the trash talk, the wagers, etc. I enjoy shit talking, we as fans have zero correlation on the game (unless it's a home game and we can create a rowdy atmosphere) and so having other things to invest your emotions into like rivalries are fun. I hate UC, it's died down a little after leaving Cinci and being so busy, but you can bet your sweet ass I still gag every time I see a Bearkitten logo anywhere.

[SM#24]

I still gag every time I see a Bearkitten logo anywhere.
You have that condition too

[XUGRAD80]

I don't understand not hating a rival, yeah I know it has zero outcome on the game, but it's fun, it's part of what makes sports passionate for me, the trash talk, the wagers, etc. I enjoy shit talking, we as fans have zero correlation on the game (unless it's a home game and we can create a rowdy atmosphere) and so having other things to invest your emotions into like rivalries are fun. I hate UC, it's died down a little after leaving Cinci and being so busy, but you can bet your sweet ass I still gag every time I see a Bearkitten logo anywhere.

I’m certainly OK with that, if that works for you. But it doesn’t work for me, and I think that is true for others too. I don’t care much for trash talking. I don’t bet. I can certainly be emotional and passionate, but it’s more about being FOR someone, and not about being AGAINST anyone. This is why I don’t get the anti-UC stuff by our fans any more than I get the anti-X stuff by their fans. It just seems so silly to me. I don’t need to be against UC (or anyone else) just to prove how for XU that I am. At this point in my life I don’t let a Xavier loss ruin my day and I don’t get any pleasure out of watching UC lose either. It’s just fun and games, it’s entertainment. When the game is over, it’s over. I enjoy watching sports, talking sports, playing sports. How the teams I root for do, or how the teams I don’t root for do, doesn’t change that. Unless it’s Duke...F**K Duke and all of their fans! :).

To each their own....

[Masterofreality]

Soooo. You hate Dook - that Xavier has zero to do with, but are all wine & roses with the school that is 3 miles away, who’s fans diss Xavier as “Little Brother” at every opportunity, and the basketball squad that is determined to steal your local lunch money. Makes perfect sense.
Go ahead on.

[JTG]

I’m certainly OK with that, if that works for you. But it doesn’t work for me, and I think that is true for others too. I don’t care much for trash talking. I don’t bet. I can certainly be emotional and passionate, but it’s more about being FOR someone, and not about being AGAINST anyone. This is why I don’t get the anti-UC stuff by our fans any more than I get the anti-X stuff by their fans. It just seems so silly to me. I don’t need to be against UC (or anyone else) just to prove how for XU that I am. At this point in my life I don’t let a Xavier loss ruin my day and I don’t get any pleasure out of watching UC lose either. It’s just fun and games, it’s entertainment. When the game is over, it’s over. I enjoy watching sports, talking sports, playing sports. How the teams I root for do, or how the teams I don’t root for do, doesn’t change that. Unless it’s Duke...F**K Duke and all of their fans! :).

To each their own....

You should be a millennial.

[XUGRAD80]

You should be a millennial.

Nope.....just an old guy who was taught at an early age to not disrespect their opponent. Probably the fact that I trained and traveled with competitors from many other schools during the “off” season has some effect on my outlook. I have many friends that were once people I competed against. I found out that after I got to know them, they were good people. After I graduated and became a local HS coach I also became friends with many college coaches...some from UC. Also good people. My brother and many of my HS teammates and friends went to UC. Why should I “hate” any of them or the school?

The Duke comment was a joke.....lighten up people. I could give two hoots about Duke.

[Juice]

Nope.....just an old guy who was taught at an early age to not disrespect their opponent. Probably the fact that I trained and traveled with competitors from many other schools during the “off” season has some effect on my outlook. I have many friends that were once people I competed against. I found out that after I got to know them, they were good people. After I graduated and became a local HS coach I also became friends with many college coaches...some from UC. Also good people. My brother and many of my HS teammates and friends went to UC. Why should I “hate” any of them or the school?

The Duke comment was a joke.....lighten up people. I could give two hoots about Duke.

Because you don't play for XU or UC and sports aren't real life (at least for fans). They're supposed to entertain you and give you an illogical reason to hate a team/school just because they're your rival.

[XUBison]

I’m certainly OK with that, if that works for you. But it doesn’t work for me, and I think that is true for others too. I don’t care much for trash talking. I don’t bet. I can certainly be emotional and passionate, but it’s more about being FOR someone, and not about being AGAINST anyone. This is why I don’t get the anti-UC stuff by our fans any more than I get the anti-X stuff by their fans. It just seems so silly to me. I don’t need to be against UC (or anyone else) just to prove how for XU that I am. At this point in my life I don’t let a Xavier loss ruin my day and I don’t get any pleasure out of watching UC lose either. It’s just fun and games, it’s entertainment. When the game is over, it’s over. I enjoy watching sports, talking sports, playing sports. How the teams I root for do, or how the teams I don’t root for do, doesn’t change that. Unless it’s Duke...F**K Duke and all of their fans! :).

To each their own....

And yet another stirring lecture by Dr. Wet Blanket...

[XUGRAD80]

And yet another stirring lecture by Dr. Wet Blanket...

What....we aren’t allowed to express our OPINIONS any more? Unless they line up with others?

I have never told anyone how THEY should feel, only how I feel. Read that again, in every instance it says “I”. It doesn’t say “you should”. Yeah, I think all of the F-him or F-them stuff thrown around about ex-coaches or opposing teams is pretty silly. In MY opinion it only makes people look small and immature, but that’s just my OPINION. Some people here have explained that it makes it more FUN for them, and I get that. In my OPINION it’s all supposed to be about FUN. But, IMO, if it becomes serious enough to cause people to do something stupid or to let it effect other parts of their lives, then it becomes a problem. If expressing these opinions puts a wet blanket on your fandom, then it’s you that have the problem, not me. If you don’t like what I have to say....don’t read it. Nobody is forcing you to do so.

This whole discussion started with a poster calling other fans a “candy ass” for having some support for Brannen, and saying that it “sad to see”. Brannen lives around the corner from my son-in-law. One of his assistant coaches lives on my street. I worked with his dad at one time. His uncle and I went to HS together and were friends. I’ve attended NKU games with my daughter, son-in-law (both NKU grads), and granddaughter, with Brannen as the coach. Now all of a sudden, because he is now the coach of UC, I’m supposed to start hating him? I’m a “candy ass” if I don’t? It’s “sad to see” that I don’t? Sorry, but in my OPINION that is just stupid. I am HAPPY for him. It’s a huge opportunity for him. I hope he does well....EXCEPT when they plays X! I hope he loses every game, and every recruiting battle to X. I want X to beat them down in every opportunity they have. BUT, if that doesn’t happen (and realistically it’s not likely to) I’m not going to hate them. Would it make you feel better if I did? Hey, if it makes YOU feel better to do so, go for it. But don’t expect me to feel the need to do the same.

[Masterofreality]

It's 12:50pm on April 28, 2019....

And uc still SucKS!!!

End. Of. Story.

Meanwhile, please leave Cumberland and Curtis.

[Caf]

What....we aren’t allowed to express our OPINIONS any more?
Unless they line up with others?
Now all of a sudden, because he is now the coach of UC, I’m supposed to start hating him?
I’m a “candy ass” if I don’t?
It’s “sad to see” that I don’t?
Would it make you feel better if I did?

Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.


https://youtu.be/FJbmB9k2Y88

[UCGRAD4X]

At this point in my life I don’t let a Xavier loss ruin my day and I don’t get any pleasure out of watching UC lose either. It’s just fun and games, it’s entertainment. When the game is over, it’s over. I enjoy watching sports, talking sports, playing sports. How the teams I root for do, or how the teams I don’t root for do, doesn’t change that.

Sure, it's just fun and games until someone puts an eye out...

...or the cops show up...

...or until someone gets their head stomped on by a UC player.

[GIMMFD]

Sure, it's just fun and games until someone puts an eye out...

...or the cops show up...

...or until someone gets their head stomped on by a UC player.

Yeah but that said Xavier player that got his head stomped on walked into the party with a 30 rack of Natty on his shoulder and screamed, "LET'S FUCKING GO!!!" that night, so all's well that ends well

[Masterofreality]

Yeah but that said Xavier player that got his head stomped on walked into the party with a 30 rack of Natty on his shoulder and screamed, "LET'S FUCKING GO!!!" that night, so all's well that ends well

#Warrior

Oh, is that racially insensitive? I guess if you're Marquette it is. :rolleyes:

[UCGRAD4X]

Yeah but that said Xavier player that got his head stomped on walked into the party with a 30 rack of Natty on his shoulder and screamed, "LET'S FUCKING GO!!!" that night, so all's well that ends well

Damn right he did!

But I still think felony assault was not out of the question.

Just one more reason to HATE UC.

[Masterofreality]

Can't believe no one posted this yet, but....

Samari Curtis has decommitted and received his release from SucKS. He already received an offer from Virginia Tech. The Clifton College of zero Knowledge has ZERO, That's NADA recruits now in the incoming 2019 class.

Cumberland has declared for the draft and chances are he ain't coming back either. Brooks is gone. The Borecats are about to enter a very long nuclear winter....in a second rate conference that is about to be dominated by Houston and Kelvin Sampson.

Damn!!! You just hate to see it.

[OH.X.MI]

Can't believe no one posted this yet, but....

Don't you know we can't trash talk Clifton Community College anymore here, MOR? Ruffles too many feathers. Sad to see, but that's the reality now.

[Masterofreality]

don't you know we can't trash talk clifton community college anymore here, mor? Ruffles too many feathers. Sad to see, but that's the reality now.

lllllllllllllllll............oooooooooooooo....... ....lllllllllllll!!!!!

[GIMMFD]

Can't believe no one posted this yet, but....

Samari Curtis has decommitted and received his release from SucKS. He already received an offer from Virginia Tech. The Clifton College of zero Knowledge has ZERO, That's NADA recruits now in the incoming 2019 class.

Cumberland has declared for the draft and chances are he ain't coming back either. Brooks is gone. The Borecats are about to enter a very long nuclear winter....in a second rate conference that is about to be dominated by Houston and Kelvin Sampson.

Damn!!! You just hate to see it.

Curtis had a weird recruiting process, just expected to blow up and receive offers bigger than X so he decided to jump ship, and now probably will be heading to Virginia Tech who just lost their coach to Texas A&M, though I think Virginia Tech made a pretty decent hire in Mike Young, regardless hilarious to see UC with absolutely zero commits for this class, this could bite them for years down the line in terms of depth. You hate to see it.

[Masterofreality]

Curtis had a weird recruiting process, just expected to blow up and receive offers bigger than X so he decided to jump ship, and now probably will be heading to Virginia Tech who just lost their coach to Texas A&M, though I think Virginia Tech made a pretty decent hire in Mike Young, regardless hilarious to see UC with absolutely zero commits for this class, this could bite them for years down the line in terms of depth. You hate to see it.

Brannen is gonna get tested really quickly to see if he can bring in any higher than 2 star recruits. He's in a different stratosphere now with zero base or assistants to go from. They are already missing this recruiting period and if he doesn't hire some assistants soon, they will really be behind the 8 ball for the summer. Brannen might shift some kids who were gonna go to NKY to SucKS but that won't cut it at this level game in and game out.

Bottom line is that if Cumberland goes, then Clifton College will suck for a lonnnng time.

[XU 87]

Curtis had a weird recruiting process, just expected to blow up and receive offers bigger than X so he decided to jump ship, and now probably will be heading to Virginia Tech who just lost their coach to Texas A&M, though I think Virginia Tech made a pretty decent hire in Mike Young, regardless hilarious to see UC with absolutely zero commits for this class, this could bite them for years down the line in terms of depth. You hate to see it.

We'll see about Young. He had a career .551 win loss at Wofford, although he's been much better the last 7-8 years. He didn't have a winning season until his 7th year there.

[GIMMFD]

Brannen is gonna get tested really quickly to see if he can bring in any higher than 2 star recruits. He's in a different stratosphere now with zero base or assistants to go from. They are already missing this recruiting period and if he doesn't hire some assistants soon, they will really be behind the 8 ball for the summer. Brannen might shift some kids who were gonna go to NKY to SucKS but that won't cut it at this level game in and game out.

Bottom line is that if Cumberland goes, then Clifton College will suck for a lonnnng time.

Yup totally agree, it's not ideal to have zero commitments right now, and it's not like 4* recruits are lining up to play for UC, it'll be interesting to see how he handles the transition and how he'll be able to figure this class out, but he's definitely behind the 8 ball right now. Losing Cumberland would cripple UC, and make things that much harder for him.


We'll see about Young. He had a career .551 win loss at Wofford, although he's been much better the last 7-8 years. He didn't have a winning season until his 7th year there.

I agree here too, definitely not the sexiest hire, but Virginia Tech is a tough place to really attract an incredible coach. I thought it was strange for Buzz Williams to go there, but he is a good coach. It's tough being in the ACC and having to compete with all of those blue bloods year in and year out, and Blacksburg, though a beautiful area, isn't the greatest place to be in the world. I still think Young has potential to do okay there, especially if he can channel the success he's had at Wofford the past decade, things started out rough in his tenure but he found some footing recently.

[scoscox]

Brannen is gonna get tested really quickly to see if he can bring in any higher than 2 star recruits. He's in a different stratosphere now with zero base or assistants to go from. They are already missing this recruiting period and if he doesn't hire some assistants soon, they will really be behind the 8 ball for the summer. Brannen might shift some kids who were gonna go to NKY to SucKS but that won't cut it at this level game in and game out.

Bottom line is that if Cumberland goes, then Clifton College will suck for a lonnnng time.

Kinda crazy that he still hasn't hired any assistants. I thought and still think he was a good hire, but he hasn't started very strongly so far. Still, its early

[bjf123]

Kinda crazy that he still hasn't hired any assistants. I thought and still think he was a good hire, but he hasn't started very strongly so far. Still, its early

Maybe Kenyon Martin is interested?


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[sirthought]

Brannen has hired one of his assistants from NKU and according to the staff directory they have two people from the old staff. They still have their strength coach too.

[noteggs]

Maybe Kenyon Martin is interested?


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He committed to Vanderbilt

Here’s what 247 has as their prospects. Yikes!

https://247sports.com/college/cincinnati/Season/2019-Basketball/Targets/

[Masterofreality]

Boy. The Borecat Board is just that. A snoooooozer, kinda like Brannen is doing now.

They have all their eggs on Cumberland coming back. Do we really expect that to happen? I'd have a hard time seeing it. I have heard that he is a candidate to actually graduate this year, but I can't confirm that. If he actually can graduate, I gotta say that "He Gone".

[bleedXblue]

The irony is that we were basically in the same exact position last year...........with a really weak recruiting class where we have already lost a player. We did strike gold with Hankins though for some immediate help. No transfers, but lost Gates unexpectedly.

Its never quite as bad as it looks.......and never quite as good as it seems either. Brannen has his work cut out and UC is in for along year whether Cumberland comes back or not.

[scoscox]

Uc has the advantage of Brannen having a few years of head coaching experience already, but Travis definitely had a better plan for assistants and did a better job recruiting transfers and prospects. We also had better talent coming back outside of Cumberland.

[sirthought]

Uc has the advantage of Brannen having a few years of head coaching experience already, but Travis definitely had a better plan for assistants and did a better job recruiting transfers and prospects. We also had better talent coming back outside of Cumberland.

Travis also likely knew Mack was moving on.

[Masterofreality]

C'mon Jarron.

Just say you're not coming back, already.

I want all those Clifton Cretins to burn in a worse fiery hell of bad basketball then they have ever seen, and I want their off-season plus seasons to come to be 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 worse than our off season last year.

[outsideobserver11]

Even if Jarron leaves, no way next year is as bad as Cronin's first year where they were playing football players and Katrina refugees. However, yes without Jarron next year will be brutal.

[scoscox]

logan johnson in the transfer portal

[Masterofreality]

logan johnson in the transfer portal

Last one leaving, please turn out Brannen's office lights.
And, c'mon Jarron. Just go ahead and make some money somewhere.