Xavier Basketball worth 61 million according to WSJ- complicated calculation

[whopper]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-much-is-your-college-basketball-team-worth-11554739458?mod=searchresults&page=1&pos=4

Gonzaga worth 68 mill, Marquette 72, Villanova 71, Town 60m, Providence 48, Butler 42.Cincinatti 32, Conn, 34, Seton H 24, Loyola Chi 22

Virgiina 68 and T tech 34m (Louisville 238m which is near the top and with UK shows how important basketball is in KY

I can't find a way to download the whole database and a login is needed

It just shows how important the team is to our school (and all the schools). A HUGE asset especially to Big East Schools which have much smaller enrollment

UK 334m, Kansas 320 and number 10 Wisconsin 131, Duke 200M

[XfansinKy]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-much-is-your-college-basketball-team-worth-11554739458?mod=searchresults&page=1&pos=4

Gonzaga worth 68 mill, Marquette 72, Villanova 71, Town 60m, Providence 48, Butler 42.Cincinatti 32, Conn, 34, Seton H 24, Loyola Chi 22

I can't find a way to download the whole database and a login is needed

It just shows how important the team is to our school (and all the schools). A HUGE asset especially to Big East Schools which have much smaller enrollment

UK 334m, Kansas 320 and number 10 Wisconsin 131, Duke 200M

I had the same problem after trying to paste it. I'm surprised Dayton is worth that much more than X. I realize they have a larger arena, but the success rate isn't comparable. Like any business, I guess money management may be the difference. Not to mention sponsorship deals with companies such as Nike can literally turn a program around. Xavier being worth nearly double UC, and nearly triple SH.

[JTG]

Where is Creighton with that 17000+ arena ?

[GoMuskies]

Where is Creighton with that 17000+ arena ?

67th at $37.47 million. Just ahead of DePaul and three spots behind St. John's.

[GoMuskies]

Big East:

26. Marquette $72.4 million
28. Villanova $71.08 million
38. Xavier $61.87 million
50. Georgetown $50.27 million
56. Providence $46.0 million
(58. Wichita State $43.81 million)
59. Butler $43.47 million
64. St. John's $38.46 million
67. Creighton $37.47 million
68. DePaul $36.45 million
87. Seton Hall $24.96 million

[GoMuskies]

Dayton, by the way, is #18 at $100.01 million.

[XfansinKy]

How is Dayton worth so much? I realize it's not all about winning, but I wouldn't imagine they have better sponsorship, endowments etc than some of the more successful/bigger programs. Dayton is considered a great basketball town with the Flyers being the only "big show" in town but I still don't understand that.

[STL_XUfan]

How is Dayton worth so much? I realize it's not all about winning, but I wouldn't imagine they have better sponsorship, endowments etc than some of the more successful/bigger programs. Dayton is considered a great basketball town with the Flyers being the only "big show" in town but I still don't understand that.

I would like to see how it is all calculated. dayton doesn't surprise me in a vacuum, but it does surprise as compared to Creighton who seems to be in a similar position.

[paulxu]

Dayton probably gets a bump for hosting the First Four.

[xudash]

How is Dayton worth so much? I realize it's not all about winning, but I wouldn't imagine they have better sponsorship, endowments etc than some of the more successful/bigger programs. Dayton is considered a great basketball town with the Flyers being the only "big show" in town but I still don't understand that.

Bernie Madoff was asked to do Dayton's valuation. It simply makes no sense. The only thing VD has going for it is a mortgage free UDump and a bunch of delusional idiots who still pay comparatively lots of money to show up for their sad basketball schedules. No television money worth noting. NCAAT Units bleeding off, including the ones we left behind. Whatever the methodology is that the WSJ-hired professor is using, a variable or two is bastardizing his results.

The Forbes list, which we used to make all the time, looks more realistic: https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/2019/03/12/the-most-valuable-college-basketball-teams/#6dfaf1543225

Note that Marquette is the only Big East team on the list now (at #19). Arkansas, NC State and Alabama? It's a lot to do with the TV money as Forbes calculates it (i.e. conference media deals plus NCAA distributions). Take a look at the pie chart down in the article:

Revenue Sources Breakdown:

- - Television* 33.7%
- - Tickets 29.5%
- - Alumni Contributions 21.6%
- - Sponsorships 10.0%
- - Other 5.2%

* - Includes NCAA and conference distributions, per the article, which implies that NCAAT Unit monies flow through this item.

So, in the modern era, TV revenue rules. Do you then have a venue that is fully supported by a strong fanbase and how is that venue configured for seat licensing, etc. Alumni contributions is the one we or any private school cannot win when pitted against a land grant P5 school that has in excess of 30,000 students and boatloads of alumni. Same for sponsorships, given the comparative base in fan support.

[XfansinKy]

Bernie Madoff was asked to do Dayton's valuation. It simply makes no sense. The only thing VD has going for it is a mortgage free UDump and a bunch of delusional idiots who still pay comparatively lots of money to show up for their sad basketball schedules. No television money worth noting. NCAAT Units bleeding off, including the ones we left behind. Whatever the methodology is that the WSJ-hired professor is using, a variable or two is bastardizing his results.

The Forbes list, which we used to make all the time, looks more realistic: https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/2019/03/12/the-most-valuable-college-basketball-teams/#6dfaf1543225

Note that Marquette is the only Big East team on the list now (at #19). Arkansas, NC State and Alabama? It's a lot to do with the TV money as Forbes calculates it (i.e. conference media deals plus NCAA distributions). Take a look at the pie chart down in the article:

Revenue Sources Breakdown:

- - Television* 33.7%
- - Tickets 29.5%
- - Alumni Contributions 21.6%
- - Sponsorships 10.0%
- - Other 5.2%

* - Includes NCAA and conference distributions, per the article, which implies that NCAAT Unit monies flow through this item.

So, in the modern era, TV revenue rules. Do you then have a venue that is fully supported by a strong fanbase and how is that venue configured for seat licensing, etc. Alumni contributions is the one we or any private school cannot win when pitted against a land grant P5 school that has in excess of 30,000 students and boatloads of alumni. Same for sponsorships, given the comparative base in fan support.

Thanks. That was a really nice way of presenting it in a way that's easy to understand. Honestly, I would have thought Nike or other shoe companies alone would surpass 10% easily.

[paulxu]

The Forbes list, which we used to make all the time, looks more realistic: https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissmith/2019/03/12/the-most-valuable-college-basketball-teams/#6dfaf1543225

Sure makes Mack's jump to the Cardinals easier to understand.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Bernie Madoff was asked to do Dayton's valuation. It simply makes no sense. The only thing VD has going for it is a mortgage free UDump and a bunch of delusional idiots who still pay comparatively lots of money to show up for their sad basketball schedules.

I will say this, I thought about going up to the Dump for the SLU game on a Saturday this year, and the cheapest tickets I could find on the secondary market were like $75-80. For SLU. They do fill up that shitty arena no matter what.

[bobbiemcgee]

Where is Creighton with that 17000+ arena ?

They rent it.

[JTG]

They rent it.

Marquette rents their place and look how high they are on the list. For that matter, everyone but X Butler and DP rent for most or all of their games.