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jhelmes37
03-25-2019, 08:31 PM
He scored 17 against us when they played at the 'Tas.

35% from deep this year.

Less than a day after the season ends, we've already got good news.

Is it November yet?

Twitter:

https://twitter.com/musketeerreport/status/1110328634487787521?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1110328634487787521&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2F247sports.com%2Fcollege%2Fxa vier%2FBoard%2F105490%2FContents%2FJason-Carter-commits-to-Xavier-130525378%2F

Cincinnati.com:

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/xavier/xaviersports/2019/03/25/xavier-musketeers-add-transfer-jason-carter-ohio-university-bobcats/3272808002/

GreatWhiteNorth
03-25-2019, 08:34 PM
Good news come early.

Xuperman
03-25-2019, 08:42 PM
Goodin, Scruggs, Jones, Marshall AND CARTER.........with QUALITY freshman back up at all five positons. Boo-yahhhh!!!

XUGRAD80
03-25-2019, 08:49 PM
Starting a separate thread......I approve

:perfect10:

D-West & PO-Z
03-25-2019, 08:52 PM
Big news. Let’s go!

jhelmes37
03-25-2019, 08:53 PM
Starting a separate thread......I approve

:perfect10:

When one of 'em pops, they deserve a thread.

Welcome to X, Jason!

Xuperman
03-25-2019, 08:55 PM
No doubt this is HUGE. What could be better news? This guy can flat out ball and it fills our need for another proven shooter. Now the staff has to figure out how to shore up the 2018-19 class somehow.

xu82
03-25-2019, 08:58 PM
I fully trust Travis on all recruiting matters.

WELCOME, SIR!

whopper
03-25-2019, 09:09 PM
in one day this happens. Looking at his stats and a very productive player who has multiple skills. Damn the loss yesterday as I was not ready but his is big news. This would be as good as getting Rik smits son for example.

markchal
03-25-2019, 09:11 PM
This is great news. What do we know about him? He doesn't seem like a typical stretch 4 (briefly looking at his numbers didn't seem like he made a ton of 3s). Should be a great role player and will definitely help as the frosh get used to the speed of the college game. I wonder what his defense is like.

Is this it for us? Or is it possible we add another wing transfer for next year?

xukeith
03-25-2019, 09:17 PM
This is great news. What do we know about him? He doesn't seem like a typical stretch 4 (briefly looking at his numbers didn't seem like he made a ton of 3s). Should be a great role player and will definitely help as the frosh get used to the speed of the college game. I wonder what his defense is like.

Is this it for us? Or is it possible we add another wing transfer for next year?

X is done for new players in the Fall.
Now heavily recruiting for 2020.

bleedXblue
03-25-2019, 09:19 PM
X is done for new players in the Fall.
Now heavily recruiting for 2020.

oh boy

kellernr
03-25-2019, 09:20 PM
So that's the last scholarship I believe. I also think we have 2 open up to guys leaving. (Removed by Admin) due to not getting any minutes even when the team struggled early in the year.

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94GRAD
03-25-2019, 09:23 PM
X is done for new players in the Fall.
Now heavily recruiting for 2020.

They will add 1, probably 2 more players before the fall.

scoscox
03-25-2019, 09:27 PM
need highlights of this guy like i need air to breathe.

so far no luck

kellernr
03-25-2019, 09:33 PM
need highlights of this guy like i need air to breathe.

so far no luckTheres a few on youtube of some Ohio Bobcat game highlights. They are mainly of Carter

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X-Expert
03-25-2019, 09:35 PM
i believe X will now definitely redshirt either Miles or Ramsey. (Removed by Admin). I think X is still big on Zach Harvey who is also considering Creighton, Gonzaga, Nebraska, and Kansas. The Zags and Kansas have backed off and believe X has the inside track. If that doesn't work out, X will likely offer Ben Roderick. Roderick has several MAC offers (including OU) but wants Ohio State. However, Ohio State has one scholarship remaining and hoping Diallo (7 footer) comes to OSU. Roderick has X as his #2 if X offers. Wisconsin and West Virginia are also now starting to recruit Roderick so a lot of moving pieces. Personally, i was hoping X would have gotten Andree as he shoots 42% from 3 or a true big (i.e. Hankins or Kanter size) or they will be small next year on the interior defense

XUGRAD80
03-25-2019, 09:55 PM
X had a top 20 class already coming in, now they add an experienced and proven college forward that can score and rebound.....home run!

atljar
03-25-2019, 11:28 PM
I read that he's expected to have immediate eligibility. Can anyone tell me how or why? He's not a grad student and I don't know of any hardship???

Joel
03-25-2019, 11:53 PM
He's graduating this summer, or at least in line to. Took a redshirt in 2017-18 due to a leg injury.

XfansinKy
03-26-2019, 06:13 AM
6'8 230 and has proven he can play at the D1 level. He looks like he's been hitting the weight room for a few years too. He may or may not be all Big East talent, but I like this recruit/transfer. I would like to know who else was after him. A kid with his height and strength with a decent jump shot had to be looked at by some good programs.

XUGRAD80
03-26-2019, 07:49 AM
I wonder if, or how much, the game between X and OU influenced his decision? If he was already thinking about transferring at that point, you could almost consider it somewhat of a recruiting trip. He got to experience a game time experience, got to check out the campus and facilities, got to interact with the Xavier staff and coaches in a small way, even got to meet some of the X players. I think I read that none of this year’s seniors actually visited X before deciding to come here, but I would think that is the exception and not the rule when it comes to transfers.

murray87
03-26-2019, 08:21 AM
Great news! Welcome to XU Jason and enjoy going to the NCAA tourney next March (and the one after that).

IM4X
03-26-2019, 08:38 AM
Welcome to the family Mr. Carter!

markchal
03-26-2019, 09:14 AM
Removed by Admin

Removed by Admin

Let's just hope we have a quiet offseason for once.

Muskie
03-26-2019, 09:25 AM
Remember when we had a rule about not mentioning rumors about transfers out of the program or flat out stating someone should transfer or is likely to transfer? Those were the days... oh wait. We still have that rule.

This isn't a video game. These are real people. Try to be considerate.

When I last spoke with Greg Christopher he emphasized that players, recruits, and their families read these boards and social media. What you post matters, which is why we've long had this rule in place. It will be enforced. If and when someone has something to announce, that player and his family will choose how to do it.


*** Addressing some points from several PM's. Try inserting "if someone transfers" or "someone is likely to transfer" in place of "If Player A transfers" or "Player B is likely to transfer" and 99% of the posts are unaffected.

xukeith
03-26-2019, 09:28 AM
https://247sports.com/college/xavier/Article/Jason-Carter-transfers-to-Xavier-University-from-Ohio-Bobcats-Every-possession-he-used-against-Xavier-highlights-clips-mixtape-Musketeers-December-5-2018-130529892/

Here is the highlights of Carter vs. XU and it looked like Welage bothered Carter on defense. He is very active. No Hankins but he has a lot of post moves and feels confident to shoot.

xufan2020
03-26-2019, 11:28 AM
https://247sports.com/college/xavier/Article/Jason-Carter-transfers-to-Xavier-University-from-Ohio-Bobcats-Every-possession-he-used-against-Xavier-highlights-clips-mixtape-Musketeers-December-5-2018-130529892/

Here is the highlights of Carter vs. XU and it looked like Welage bothered Carter on defense. He is very active. No Hankins but he has a lot of post moves and feels confident to shoot.
I see a CJ Anderson type, with his ability/craftiness around the rim, but with more length and apparently a decent jumper. His touch should only improve over the years. Hope he has CJ’s toughness on defense and rebounding but overall I’m optimistic. Love this pickup

drudy23
03-26-2019, 11:29 AM
I see a CJ Anderson type

There's no such thing. Weez is one of a kind.

X-band '01
03-26-2019, 11:34 AM
There's no such thing. Weez is one of a kind.

This post is On Deem.

surfxu
03-26-2019, 12:18 PM
There's no such thing. Weez is one of a kind.

Nothing has ever been more true. Reps.

atljar
03-26-2019, 12:48 PM
He's graduating this summer, or at least in line to. Took a redshirt in 2017-18 due to a leg injury.

Gotcha, the enquirer confirmed hes a grad transfer in their article. So basically hes been in school for 3 years but has his degree, so he has 2 years left to play.

stammina0721
03-26-2019, 04:58 PM
Just curious do we know who else was recruiting him

nuts4xu
03-26-2019, 05:00 PM
Gotcha, the enquirer confirmed hes a grad transfer in their article. So basically hes been in school for 3 years but has (or will have) his degree, so he has 2 years left to play.

Fixed it for you....

IM4X
03-26-2019, 05:57 PM
Remember when we had a rule about not mentioning rumors about transfers out of the program or flat out stating someone should transfer or is likely to transfer? Those were the days... oh wait. We still have that rule.

This isn't a video game. These are real people. Try to be considerate.

When I last spoke with Greg Christopher he emphasized that players, recruits, and their families read these boards and social media. What you post matters, which is why we've long had this rule in place. It will be enforced. If and when someone has something to announce, that player and his family will choose how to do it.


*** Addressing some points from several PM's. Try inserting "if someone transfers" or "someone is likely to transfer" in place of "If Player A transfers" or "Player B is likely to transfer" and 99% of the posts are unaffected.

I like this rule. I want player A, B and C to come back next year. Let’s hope everyone sticks around. “If someone transfers” it would not please me.

sirthought
03-26-2019, 09:15 PM
This is a great addition considering the team's lack of experienced big guys. Curious if any of you, based on what you've read and seen, think that Carter would earn a starting spot in other Big East programs?

Steele is going to need to figure out ways for him to improve his efficiency with fewer shot attempts on this XU squad. Carter is really going to have to level up. He hustles. Good confidence. Seems to have a good IQ. Great handles.

Can he close out against more physical players in the post? Can he improve his outside shooting against taller opponents? Or will he be a good post passer a la Stainbrook?

Two years to find out! I'm glad he's here and hoping to see growth.

Steve A
03-27-2019, 08:32 AM
This is a great addition considering the team's lack of experienced big guys. Curious if any of you, based on what you've read and seen, think that Carter would earn a starting spot in other Big East programs?

Steele is going to need to figure out ways for him to improve his efficiency with fewer shot attempts on this XU squad. Carter is really going to have to level up. He hustles. Good confidence. Seems to have a good IQ. Great handles.

Can he close out against more physical players in the post? Can he improve his outside shooting against taller opponents? Or will he be a good post passer a la Stainbrook?

Two years to find out! I'm glad he's here and hoping to see growth.

I definitely think Xavier's track record with transfers has earned them the benefit of the doubt. There is a pretty lengthy list of players coming from lower-tier programs and excelling. Yes, OU wasn't a great team, but we've had players transfer in from:

Florida A&M
Ferris St.
San Jose St.
Columbia
Western Michigan
Manhattan
Monmouth
Towson St.
UW-Milwaukee

That's just off the top of my head so I am sure I am missing some. The point remains that usually/often the player comes in as a leading scorer type and adapts to a role at X. I expect the same from Carter. Just like you, I am glad he's here!

muethibp
03-27-2019, 09:34 AM
I definitely think Xavier's track record with transfers has earned them the benefit of the doubt. There is a pretty lengthy list of players coming from lower-tier programs and excelling. Yes, OU wasn't a great team, but we've had players transfer in from:

Florida A&M
Ferris St.
San Jose St.
Columbia
Western Michigan
Manhattan
Monmouth
Towson St.
UW-Milwaukee

That's just off the top of my head so I am sure I am missing some. The point remains that usually/often the player comes in as a leading scorer type and adapts to a role at X. I expect the same from Carter. Just like you, I am glad he's here!

I agree with that. Plus, in the grad transfer market, you're getting guys who are 22ish. People overlook too frequently the link between age and success in college basketball. Less talented 8th graders would crush 5th graders with even more talent; high school seniors the same as to high school freshmen; college seniors better than underclassmen. The effect lessens with age but doesn't nearly disappear -- you still want as many 22YOs on your college team as you can get.

sirthought
03-27-2019, 12:42 PM
I definitely think Xavier's track record with transfers has earned them the benefit of the doubt. There is a pretty lengthy list of players coming from lower-tier programs and excelling. Yes, OU wasn't a great team, but we've had players transfer in from:

Florida A&M
Ferris St.
San Jose St.
Columbia
Western Michigan
Manhattan
Monmouth
Towson St.
UW-Milwaukee

That's just off the top of my head so I am sure I am missing some. The point remains that usually/often the player comes in as a leading scorer type and adapts to a role at X. I expect the same from Carter. Just like you, I am glad he's here!

I'm not a casual fan, so I don't need a history of where transfers have come from. And we all know they can contribute. Excell might be a loaded term, depending on the player. I asked if any of you, based on what you've read and seen, think that Carter would earn a starting spot in other Big East programs?

We know there are transfers who have been that type. Jordan Crawford to Xavier. Mark Lyons to Arizona. CJ McConnell to Arizona. Kyle Washington to UC.

xukeith
03-27-2019, 12:48 PM
I'm not a casual fan, so I don't need a history of where transfers have come from. And we all know they can contribute. Excell might be a loaded term, depending on the player. I asked if any of you, based on what you've read and seen, think that Carter would earn a starting spot in other Big East programs?

I imagine any BE team that lack a talented or experience 4 would start him as opposed to a frosh with exception to Villanova.

Steve A
03-27-2019, 12:51 PM
I'm not a casual fan, so I don't need a history of where transfers have come from. And we all know they can contribute. Excell might be a loaded term, depending on the player. I asked if any of you, based on what you've read and seen, think that Carter would earn a starting spot in other Big East programs?

1. No one has said that he will for sure start for X next year.

2. Yes, I believe he would start for several Big East teams next year.

Xuperman
03-27-2019, 01:01 PM
I'm not a casual fan, so I don't need a history of where transfers have come from. And we all know they can contribute. Excell might be a loaded term, depending on the player. I asked if any of you, based on what you've read and seen, think that Carter would earn a starting spot in other Big East programs?

Pointless to speculate. His numbers are starter numbers. On paper good enough to start on any BE team. Then again he could easily start for none. Obviously that is earned in practice leading up to the season opener.

All that matters here is it looks like he'll start for us. At this point he will be competing with ZFree, Ramsey and James for the starting 4 spot. One would think he will emerge as the best option if that's the case. I personally think James is going to surprise most of us.

sirthought
03-27-2019, 01:09 PM
Yeah, I have no idea if he'll start for X, but folks here are talking like that will happen. He sure has talent that could help him contribute right away. His per 40 minutes and 100 minutes stats are really pretty good. But that was against pretty weak schedules and his usage was somewhere in the range of what Naji Marshall's is for X.

Xuperman
03-27-2019, 01:19 PM
OK, can we all agree that the core 4 are starting and the 5th spot is up for grabs. A 3 guard small ball line up was used some this year and I could certainly see that again in the fall. Tandy AND Bishop are very good.

GetUp5
03-27-2019, 01:22 PM
How about we just agree that Carter > Kennedy? Boom. 2 days into the off-season and the roster has been upgraded.

Talent Acquisition SZN.

D-West & PO-Z
03-27-2019, 01:25 PM
Pointless to speculate. His numbers are starter numbers. On paper good enough to start on any BE team. Then again he could easily start for none. Obviously that is earned in practice leading up to the season opener.

All that matters here is it looks like he'll start for us. At this point he will be competing with ZFree, Ramsey and James for the starting 4 spot. One would think he will emerge as the best option if that's the case. I personally think James is going to surprise most of us.

Before getting Carter I think a lot of people would have envisoned a starting 5 of:

Q
Scruggs
Elias
Naji
Jones

I think it makes more sense with Carter in the fold to start him but if he doesnt perform well enough in practice to warrant a starting spot and Elias does that could happen. I am not sure if it is Carter competing with the freshman for a starting spot as much as it is him competing with Elias.

MITTENMUSKIE16
03-27-2019, 01:32 PM
Bottom line is I think we can all adamantly agree that Xavier will be more talented and deeper than last year. The team will be different than last year, though. While Hankins and Carter are not the same, I think they're usage and overall output could be similar (10 and 5 per game).

To not run into the same problems as we had this year, though, the core 4 and elias will all have to again take steps to improve. To get some of the wins that we missed out on last year, the defense will have to be as good as it was the last month of the season. More importantly, the offense will have to avoid the long stretches of scoring droughts. Shot selection and turnovers will have to be cut down, and spacing will have to be better. If Naji and Q can hover around 33% all year from three, that'll make a big difference. Both guys will have to shoot more FTs and at a better clip. Both have the ability to get into the lane, and this should hopefully generate more FT attempts and manufacture points. Then you hopefully have Eli, Bishop, and Carter shooting around 35%. Paul hopefully around his 38% number. Tandy is a wildcard here, but he probably won't get the volume of 3 point shots as other guys listed, I'm thinking along the lines of 2 attempts per game from deep.

Last year, X started one guy who shot above 30% from three. That can't, and shouldn't, be the case next year. I'm looking forward to the season being here, already.

xuwin
03-27-2019, 02:18 PM
How about we just agree that Carter > Kennedy? Boom. 2 days into the off-season and the roster has been upgraded.

Talent Acquisition SZN.

For some reason unknown to us Kennedy did not live up to his 4* rating. I think his motivation was indicated by the fact that he chose not to finish out the season. There definitely was an opportunity to earn playing time this year.

bleedXblue
03-27-2019, 02:33 PM
For some reason unknown to us Kennedy did not live up to his 4* rating. I think his motivation was indicated by the fact that he chose not to finish out the season. There definitely was an opportunity to earn playing time this year.

Felt like Kennedy was one of those kids who got caught up in what everyone else was saying about him (4 star this and that stuff) and forgot that he had to work his ass off and earn playing time. Then he quits mid season........... Kid was getting some bad advice IMHO or was just hard headed. Either way, we have moved on and upgraded

Lloyd Braun
03-27-2019, 02:38 PM
4 stars? Who had him at 4 stars?

xuwin
03-27-2019, 02:41 PM
4 stars? Who had him at 4 stars?


The list of transfers had him as a 4* recruit.

Juice
03-27-2019, 03:33 PM
Felt like Kennedy was one of those kids who got caught up in what everyone else was saying about him (4 star this and that stuff) and forgot that he had to work his ass off and earn playing time. Then he quits mid season........... Kid was getting some bad advice IMHO or was just hard headed. Either way, we have moved on and upgraded

https://247sports.com/Player/Keonte-Kennedy-46040759/

Ranked 241 and was a 3 star recruit.

scoscox
03-27-2019, 03:42 PM
TBH he got a prety good amount of playing time imo. We don't know what his reasons are, but if it had anything to do with playing time that's misguided. he played significantly more than Jahvon Quinerly at Nova who was a 5 star MCDAA

I don't begrudge him whatever his reasons though

FIGHTING MUSKETEER
03-27-2019, 04:13 PM
I think we need a physician "pronto". A severe "off-seasonitis" is developing to epidemic proportions.

D-West & PO-Z
03-27-2019, 05:02 PM
TBH he got a prety good amount of playing time imo. We don't know what his reasons are, but if it had anything to do with playing time that's misguided. he played significantly more than Jahvon Quinerly at Nova who was a 5 star MCDAA

I don't begrudge him whatever his reasons though

This