Season lost at the line 2019

[Xuperman]

Multiple BIG games lost at the charity stripe. FREE is not free......gotta be clutch.
TWO chances at championships lost from the line......along with inexcusable poor rebounding.

Now comes the brutally long off season.

[XUGRAD80]

Agreed......sigh

[XfansinKy]

Q hands of stone. That's why he wasn't recruited by UK or Louisville. Lots of our guys got bad hands though.

[xufan2020]

No. This season was not lost at the line.
A new coach, an exodus of scorers/shooters, a (seemingly) lost recruiting class, injuries, needing to grab three low level transfers, ect. I could go on with more reasons, but free throws is one of the least important factors.

[XfansinKy]

No. This season was not lost at the line.
A new coach, an exodus of scorers/shooters, a (seemingly) lost recruiting class, injuries, needing to grab three low level transfers, ect. I could go on with more reasons, but free throws is one of the least important factors.

Did you not see Q at the line with 2.7 seconds left? If that's Tu up there the Musketeers are moving on

[xufan2020]

Did you not see Q at the line with 2.7 seconds left? If that's Tu up there the Musketeers are moving on
Sarcasm?
If not I’m talking about the season in general. Not some end of an NIT game situation.
Q tied the game and forced overtime. Good to see you ignore the fact that Scruggs clearly had the worse game.

[xu82]

Did you not see Q at the line with 2.7 seconds left? If that's Tu up there the Musketeers are moving on

It’s the season vs the game. Game was ultimately decided at the line. The season? We had all kinds of problems!

[X-Expert]

This team was challenged offensively because they couldn't shoot from the outside. I like Steel and believe he will be good but he has given Marshall a very very very long leash. Marshall makes one pass in the Nova game and X likely wins. With 16 seconds he grabs a rebound, ignores goodin and dribbles length of the court only to take a turn around jumper from 16 feet. This is their worse outside shooter doing this. As their worse shooter, he took the most shots by 6 as he was 7-18. On the other side, Jones and Hankins combined were 16-20. For some reason, Marshall has an extremely high opinion of himself as a shooter. Yes X has some talent coming in next year but if Marshall/goodin continue to shoot from deep as they did all year, X will be very similar to next year. Marshall shooting is similar to a turnover yet Steele has allowed him to shoot when he wants -or at least does not appear to hold him accountable for poor shot selection. I certainly hope Steele reigns him in because if not, X is in for a similar season next year.

[vee4xu]

Good FT shooting comes from focus and repetitive practice. This creates confidence. In pressure situations, the unprepared revert to poor habits. It's the same with professional golfers and putting and football and FG kicking. Folks, the are called FREE THROWS for a reason. THere's no one guarding the player taking them. If a player has practiced a routine time, after time, after time, after time, there's no reason that those good habits shouldn't result in making almost every free throw. I am not focusing blame just on Goodin. I watched LeBron James miss tons of crucial FTs over the years. It is all about committing to practice and focusing through the distractions. It ain't rocket science folks. It's just good habits, practice and a solid routine.

[stammina0721]

Naji was definitely a big reason for a lot of wins and losses. When he is on he is very good, but when he gets greedy he really drags the team down. He goes through spurts where his decision making and shot selection may as well be a turnover leading to a lot of runouts for the opposing team.

He looks like he goes through spurts where he is trying to impress NBA scouts instead of playing the team game. It reminds me a lot of how Sumner played at times.

I hope next year he just plays within the system because if he does he can take this team far and maybe further than it has ever gone. Unfortunately he can also keep this team from the tournament. He is that critical to next year's success. That is also a testament to his skill and ability to drastically impact a game

[XUGRAD80]

Good FT shooting comes from focus and repetitive practice. This creates confidence. In pressure situations, the unprepared revert to poor habits. It's the same with professional golfers and putting and football and FG kicking. Folks, the are called FREE THROWS for a reason. THere's no one guarding the player taking them. If a player has practiced a routine time, after time, after time, after time, there's no reason that those good habits shouldn't result in making almost every free throw. I am not focusing blame just on Goodin. I watched LeBron James miss tons of crucial FTs over the years. It is all about committing to practice and focusing through the distractions. It ain't rocket science folks. It's just good habits, practice and a solid routine.

It’s comfidence, it’s mental. Last year, at the end of the year, Q was a rock at the line. Jones seemed much improved early in the year. As the season went on they got worse, not better. I’m sure they practice them quite a bit. I’m sure they all have their own routines. The best FT shooters EXPECt to make every one and are surprised when they miss. Xavier had no player like that this year. fT shooting wasn’t the only problem with this year’s team, but unlike in the past, it was a problem and not a strength. They won games in years past because of being able to shoot free throws consistently well. They lost same games this year because they couldn’t.

[bjf123]

Naji was definitely a big reason for a lot of wins and losses. When he is on he is very good, but when he gets greedy he really drags the team down. He goes through spurts where his decision making and shot selection may as well be a turnover leading to a lot of runouts for the opposing team.

Agreed. There were games when we were all cheering for Naji and other games where we’re all yelling NO! Both he and Q had a tendency to want to play hero ball. When that happens, neither is looking to make a pass. They’ve got the ball and they’re shooting come hell or high water. I’m hoping for less of that next year!


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[xu82]

Naji was definitely a big reason for a lot of wins and losses. When he is on he is very good, but when he gets greedy he really drags the team down. He goes through spurts where his decision making and shot selection may as well be a turnover leading to a lot of runouts for the opposing team.

He looks like he goes through spurts where he is trying to impress NBA scouts instead of playing the team game. It reminds me a lot of how Sumner played at times.

I hope next year he just plays within the system because if he does he can take this team far and maybe further than it has ever gone. Unfortunately he can also keep this team from the tournament. He is that critical to next year's success. That is also a testament to his skill and ability to drastically impact a game

I wish this was less true. But it sounds about right. He and Q seem to be the Alpha’s, and I’m not sure why people (coaches included) tolerate all the crazy 3 attempts. Do what you are actually good at, because they have the talent to be successful.

[X-Expert]

Interesting take from MM:
It's funny to read in Xavier Media Guide the following -
In Naji Marshall's bio - question - "What's the best thing about me as a player" - His answer - "I am a willing and able passer". :o
I don't think so sir.
Here are the KenPom offensive ratings this year for X -
1) Hankins - 128.7
2) Welage - 125.2
3) Jones - 119.4
4) Castlin - 106.0
5) Scruggs - 105.0
6) Goodin - 96.0
7) Marshall - 95.1
8) Harden - 88.5

Marshall took the most 3's on the team and had the worst shooting % - 27.7%
Marshall took the most 2's on the team and had the 3nd worst shooting % - 47.6% Goodin was worst at 43.1% and Harden was 2nd worst at 45% but Hardend only shot 20 times from 2.
He thinks he is The Man but he doesn't have the talent to be The Man.
The best thing X can do is have Stanley Burrell mentor him on being the defensive shut down guy. He can be and is at times an outstanding defensive player. That needs to be his MO.
And go back to his quote in the media guide - be a willing and able passer.

[xavierj]

Interesting take from MM:
It's funny to read in Xavier Media Guide the following -
In Naji Marshall's bio - question - "What's the best thing about me as a player" - His answer - "I am a willing and able passer". :o
I don't think so sir.
Here are the KenPom offensive ratings this year for X -
1) Hankins - 128.7
2) Welage - 125.2
3) Jones - 119.4
4) Castlin - 106.0
5) Scruggs - 105.0
6) Goodin - 96.0
7) Marshall - 95.1
8) Harden - 88.5

Marshall took the most 3's on the team and had the worst shooting % - 27.7%
Marshall took the most 2's on the team and had the 3nd worst shooting % - 47.6% Goodin was worst at 43.1% and Harden was 2nd worst at 45% but Hardend only shot 20 times from 2.
He thinks he is The Man but he doesn't have the talent to be The Man.
The best thing X can do is have Stanley Burrell mentor him on being the defensive shut down guy. He can be and is at times an outstanding defensive player. That needs to be his MO.
And go back to his quote in the media guide - be a willing and able passer.

He had a bad shooting year but he is also a capable scorer. He shot 35% from 3 as a freshman and like 58% from 2. I am fine when he shoots as long as it is not forced or out of the offense. He has shown he can be really good and he really was the main reason they finished so strong, although never was the same after the Butler game. He was in a zone during the 6 game winning streak.

[xu82]

If there was a top 10 of FT’s you wished had gone in, this would not make the list. Justin Cage would be #1 for me, and I still love the guy. That was heartbreaking! We got screwed by the ref’s too. But there are a lot more for me I’m sure that would top advancing in the NIT.

[UCGRAD4X]

Interesting take from MM:
It's funny to read in Xavier Media Guide the following -
In Naji Marshall's bio - question - "What's the best thing about me as a player" - His answer - "I am a willing and able passer". :o
I don't think so sir.
Here are the KenPom offensive ratings this year for X -
1) Hankins - 128.7
2) Welage - 125.2
3) Jones - 119.4
4) Castlin - 106.0
5) Scruggs - 105.0
6) Goodin - 96.0
7) Marshall - 95.1
8) Harden - 88.5

Marshall took the most 3's on the team and had the worst shooting % - 27.7%
Marshall took the most 2's on the team and had the 3nd worst shooting % - 47.6% Goodin was worst at 43.1% and Harden was 2nd worst at 45% but Hardend only shot 20 times from 2.
He thinks he is The Man but he doesn't have the talent to be The Man.
The best thing X can do is have Stanley Burrell mentor him on being the defensive shut down guy. He can be and is at times an outstanding defensive player. That needs to be his MO.
And go back to his quote in the media guide - be a willing and able passer.


Unfortunately, three out of the top four are gone and the bottom four are back and five out of the bottom six. And how is Jones going to do with no one to spell him?

Same with the Free Throws. The core coming back seem to be the ones that fold in crunch time more often than not.

Closing out games has been maddening this year. Maddening, maddening I say.

[X Factor]

Goodin shot 67% from the FT line this year. Sorry, but that is terrible for a PG.

[bobbiemcgee]

I believe we were last in the BE ft %. 'Nuff said.

[IM4X]

Naji was definitely a big reason for a lot of wins and losses. When he is on he is very good, but when he gets greedy he really drags the team down. He goes through spurts where his decision making and shot selection may as well be a turnover leading to a lot of runouts for the opposing team.

He looks like he goes through spurts where he is trying to impress NBA scouts instead of playing the team game. It reminds me a lot of how Sumner played at times.

I hope next year he just plays within the system because if he does he can take this team far and maybe further than it has ever gone. Unfortunately he can also keep this team from the tournament. He is that critical to next year's success. That is also a testament to his skill and ability to drastically impact a game


This.

[IM4X]

Interesting take from MM:
It's funny to read in Xavier Media Guide the following -
In Naji Marshall's bio - question - "What's the best thing about me as a player" - His answer - "I am a willing and able passer". :o
I don't think so sir.
Here are the KenPom offensive ratings this year for X -
1) Hankins - 128.7
2) Welage - 125.2
3) Jones - 119.4
4) Castlin - 106.0
5) Scruggs - 105.0
6) Goodin - 96.0
7) Marshall - 95.1
8) Harden - 88.5

Marshall took the most 3's on the team and had the worst shooting % - 27.7%
Marshall took the most 2's on the team and had the 3nd worst shooting % - 47.6% Goodin was worst at 43.1% and Harden was 2nd worst at 45% but Hardend only shot 20 times from 2.
He thinks he is The Man but he doesn't have the talent to be The Man.
The best thing X can do is have Stanley Burrell mentor him on being the defensive shut down guy. He can be and is at times an outstanding defensive player. That needs to be his MO.
And go back to his quote in the media guide - be a willing and able passer.

Just further backs up my questioning Steele for not having both Hankins and Jones in there for that last play and getting one of them the ball. Instead, Naji (a player at the bottom in offensive rating and a player who was having an off game) gets the last shot.

[XfansinKy]

Naji was definitely a big reason for a lot of wins and losses. When he is on he is very good, but when he gets greedy he really drags the team down. He goes through spurts where his decision making and shot selection may as well be a turnover leading to a lot of runouts for the opposing team.

He looks like he goes through spurts where he is trying to impress NBA scouts instead of playing the team game. It reminds me a lot of how Sumner played at times.

I hope next year he just plays within the system because if he does he can take this team far and maybe further than it has ever gone. Unfortunately he can also keep this team from the tournament. He is that critical to next year's success. That is also a testament to his skill and ability to drastically impact a game

This is so true. When he plays within the system is when he actually looks like an NBA prospect with his skillset. This is where we need a point guard that is good enough to demand the ball and set things up for him.

[AviatorX]

He had a bad shooting year but he is also a capable scorer. He shot 35% from 3 as a freshman and like 58% from 2. I am fine when he shoots as long as it is not forced or out of the offense. He has shown he can be really good and he really was the main reason they finished so strong, although never was the same after the Butler game. He was in a zone during the 6 game winning streak.

This. Not sure how everyone doesn't see this. If Xavier is going to come close to their ceiling over the next 1-2 years, it's with Naji as a scorer. LOL at him becoming a Stanley Burrell defensive shut down guy.

No doubt XU is a high major program now with the message board performance during a down year.

[X-Expert]

This. Not sure how everyone doesn't see this. If Xavier is going to come close to their ceiling over the next 1-2 years, it's with Naji as a scorer. LOL at him becoming a Stanley Burrell defensive shut down guy.

No doubt XU is a high major program now with the message board performance during a down year.
Agree they need Naji but his shot selection is poor. Last year was such a different animal because teams were doubling down on Kanter, O'Mara and helping on Bluitt. That opened so much for Q and Naji. His 3s were wide open. This year, he was a focal point and teams guarded him closely. Both players can be effective if they first take good shots and secondly, have help from the outside to spread the floor.

[vee4xu]

If there was a top 10 of FT’s you wished had gone in, this would not make the list. Justin Cage would be #1 for me, and I still love the guy. That was heartbreaking! We got screwed by the ref’s too. But there are a lot more for me I’m sure that would top advancing in the NIT.

I was at that game. Oden knocked Cage into the fourth row of floor seats. If there was a textbook flagrant foul, that was it. Should have been two shots and Xavier's ball. The other thing that still eats at me is that Miller didn't foul Lewis before he made his very long, game tying three pointer.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I was at that game. Oden knocked Cage into the fourth row of floor seats. If there was a textbook flagrant foul, that was it. Should have been two shots and Xavier's ball. The other thing that still eats at me is that Miller didn't foul Lewis before he made his very long, game tying three pointer.

I agree you should foul there. Can't remember how much time was left on the clock but they should have fouled right on the rebound of the FT or ASAP in the backcourt.

I think people think that situation is so much easier than it is. That has to take some practice and is a lot easier to execute out of a timeout or deadball. You dont want to foul too hard and have an intentional situation arise and you dont want to wait too long or panic and do it and have the guy go into his shooting motion (see KSU against X fouling Tu).

That also seemed to be at the very beginning stages of the foul up 3 strategy. I feel like it is much more accepted by coaches now. I am sure with a guy like Oden in the game (dont think he was fouled out was he?) you always run the risk of them getting a board off a missed FT.

Personally I dont think a team should do it unless the clock is under 8 secs maybe even less. Easy to a foul a team with 10 secs they make both and then they get a steal or foul and you only make 1 of 2 and now a three beats you or only a 2 ties it.

[jhelmes37]

I agree you should foul there. Can't remember how much time was left on the clock but they should have fouled right on the rebound of the FT or ASAP in the backcourt.

I think people think that situation is so much easier than it is. That has to take some practice and is a lot easier to execute out of a timeout or deadball. You dont want to foul too hard and have an intentional situation arise and you dont want to wait too long or panic and do it and have the guy go into his shooting motion (see KSU against X fouling Tu).

That also seemed to be at the very beginning stages of the foul up 3 strategy. I feel like it is much more accepted by coaches now. I am sure with a guy like Oden in the game (dont think he was fouled out was he?) you always run the risk of them getting a board off a missed FT.

Personally I dont think a team should do it unless the clock is under 8 secs maybe even less. Easy to a foul a team with 10 secs they make both and then they get a steal or foul and you only make 1 of 2 and now a three beats you or only a 2 ties it.

Yeah I remember Miller saying he struggled with the call. Foul or let them play it out?

A 3 at the end of regulation happens all the time. Even 25 footers that are contested.

If you foul, they have to make the first, miss the second, get the rebound and score.

Or conversely, miss the first, miss the second, get a rebound, and hit a 3.

Fundamentals, if applied, will make the chances of the free throw route go down drastically.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Yeah I remember Miller saying he struggled with the call. Foul or let them play it out?

A 3 at the end of regulation happens all the time. Even 25 footers that are contested.

If you foul, they have to make the first, miss the second, get the rebound and score.

Or conversely, miss the first, miss the second, get a rebound, and hit a 3.

Fundamentals, if applied, will make the chances of the free throw route go down drastically.

Yes agreed. As long as your players dont foul too aggressively or foul while the player is shooting.

It ultimately worked out for Kansas State but I am sure Frank Martin would have wanted a re-do on that one.

I think that Kansas state one was out of a dead ball too. Which is a lot easier to execute than after a missed FT.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Fouling up three didnt work out for Purdue tonight. May still win in OT but UVA tied after missing the second FT. Took an unreal play though. Fouling probably still the right call.

[X-band '01]

Someone on Twitter had also pointed out just how huge resetting the game clock from 59.7 to a full minute looks after the fact.

[Masterofreality]

No. This season was not lost at the line.
A new coach, an exodus of scorers/shooters, a (seemingly) lost recruiting class, injuries, needing to grab three low level transfers, ect. I could go on with more reasons, but free throws is one of the least important factors.

Well, you could argue it was.
This team shot less than 70%- 68.6% to be exact- and could have won numerous games by just shooting 75%, which is not uncalled for. Ty was better, but both Naji and Q were subpar- Q as a PG especially only shooting 66%.
It's not unreasonable to expect that your PG can shoot 75-80% from the line. Tu, of course, was the gold standard, but look back and X has almost always had a PG, other that Semaj, who could consistently make them.
Time for a summer of Tu. At least 500 ft's a day.

[XfansinKy]

Well, you could argue it was.
This team shot less than 70%- 68.6% to be exact- and could have won numerous games by just shooting 75%, which is not uncalled for. Ty was better, but both Naji and Q were subpar- Q as a PG especially only shooting 66%.
It's not unreasonable to expect that your PG can shoot 75-80% from the line. Tu, of course, was the gold standard, but look back and X has almost always had a PG, other that Semaj, who could consistently make them.
Time for a summer of Tu. At least 500 ft's a day.

This is the truth. If Tu was at the line...game over.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Comparing anyone to probably our most clutch player ever will almost always end in disappointment.

[scoscox]

q was pretty good at the line his sophomore year. maybe his increased usage this year cost him at the line a little. hopefully it'll tick back next year with him being more comfortable and a little more depth to take the pressure off him

[xudash]

q was pretty good at the line his sophomore year. maybe his increased usage this year cost him at the line a little. hopefully it'll tick back next year with him being more comfortable and a little more depth to take the pressure off him

And maybe his shoulder injury tweaked his shot. Who knows.

[XfansinKy]

Comparing anyone to probably our most clutch player ever will almost always end in disappointment.

I promise you free throws aren't as much about clutch as it is repetition shooting thousands of free throws when practice is over. Muscle memory and preparation trumps clutch almost every time. Put the head phones on as loud as possible and imagine every one you put up is with the game on the line. When it's time to win the game at the line and go home, the hard part is over. I promise. I would bet the farm Tu practiced free throws more than anyone on this team. From what little I know from watching KyKy in warmups and games, he's gonna eventually be that guy.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I promise you free throws aren't as much about clutch as it is repetition shooting thousands of free throws when practice is over. Muscle memory and preparation trumps clutch almost every time. Put the head phones on as loud as possible and imagine every one you put up is with the game on the line. When it's time to win the game at the line and go home, the hard part is over. I promise. I would bet the farm Tu practiced free throws more than anyone on this team. From what little I know from watching KyKy in warmups and games, he's gonna eventually be that guy.

I completely understand practice and preparation is imperative and what makes someone successful. However, you cannot simulate in practice what it is truly like with the game on the line make and win, miss and lose. That is where clutch comes in. Q shot 79% last year from the FT line. He has the ability. Something was off this year. But clutch is real and it wasnt just at the FT for Tu.

[XU 87]

I promise you free throws aren't as much about clutch as it is repetition shooting thousands of free throws when practice is over. Muscle memory and preparation trumps clutch almost every time. Put the head phones on as loud as possible and imagine every one you put up is with the game on the line. When it's time to win the game at the line and go home, the hard part is over. I promise. I would bet the farm Tu practiced free throws more than anyone on this team. From what little I know from watching KyKy in warmups and games, he's gonna eventually be that guy.

It also helps to have good shooters. Good shooters make their free throws more than not-so-good shooters. Q and Naji aren't particularly good shooters.

[XfansinKy]

I completely understand practice and preparation is imperative and what makes someone successful. However, you cannot simulate in practice what it is truly like with the game on the line make and win, miss and lose. That is where clutch comes in. Q shot 79% last year from the FT line. He has the ability. Something was off this year. But clutch is real and it wasnt just at the FT for Tu.

Just from from experience, the guys we had that shot thousands of free throws a week weren't concerned at all at the end of the games. I wasn't good enough to play at X but my best was 6 in a row in the last minute, and I knew that they were going in because of all the practice I had with stereos, teammates and coaches messing with me while I shoot. Coach always said practice and muscle memory facilitates calmness and confidence. I don't believe in a clutch gene unless it's backed by 1500 or more free throws a week. But then again, if I said I liked Xavier's blue uniforms, you would remind me they are actually blue and white. ;-)

[XU 87]

Just from from experience, the guys we had that shot thousands of free throws a week weren't concerned at all at the end of the games. I wasn't good enough to play at X but my best was 6 in a row in the last minute, and I knew that they were going in because of all the practice I had with stereos, teammates and coaches messing with me while I shoot. Coach always said practice and muscle memory facilitates calmness and confidence. I don't believe in a clutch gene unless it's backed by 1500 or more free throws a week. But then again, if I said I liked Xavier's blue uniforms, you would remind me they are actually blue and white. ;-)


Are you arguing the old, "They needed to practice free throws more", or in the alternative, "They need to do different free throw drills?"

[xufan2020]

Well, you could argue it was.
This team shot less than 70%- 68.6% to be exact- and could have won numerous games by just shooting 75%, which is not uncalled for. Ty was better, but both Naji and Q were subpar- Q as a PG especially only shooting 66%.
It's not unreasonable to expect that your PG can shoot 75-80% from the line. Tu, of course, was the gold standard, but look back and X has almost always had a PG, other that Semaj, who could consistently make them.
Time for a summer of Tu. At least 500 ft's a day.
I’m not going to argue the importance of free throws and they should definitely improve.

But look at the conference losses at Cintas this season: Hall, Providence, Marquette, and DePaul. Not in one of those games did Xavier shoot below 70% from the line. Those games were the reason we didn’t get to the dance. Again, free throws were not the reason this season was lost.

[atljar]

I dont think his intent was saying they need to practice more free throws, ie during scheduled practices. I think the intent was to convey that we dont seem to have anyone that is putting in the 50,000 shots in the offseason, or whatever the crazy Tu number was. Free throws are monotonous and boring and need crazy repetition in the players "off" time to be successful

[D-West & PO-Z]

I dont think his intent was saying they need to practice more free throws, ie during scheduled practices. I think the intent was to convey that we dont seem to have anyone that is putting in the 50,000 shots in the offseason, or whatever the crazy Tu number was. Free throws are monotonous and boring and need crazy repetition in the players "off" time to be successful

I'm not saying we do and Tu was a different breed but honestly how the heck does anyone know how many FT's any player on the team is shooting in practice or on their own? Practice doesnt guarantee success, even practice to an extreme.

And again when you pick comparing any of our players to Tu in any way, whatever it is, it will almost always end in disappointment. Tu was one the greatest Muskies ever.

[XfansinKy]

I'm not saying we do and Tu was a different breed but honestly how the heck does anyone know how many FT's any player on the team is shooting in practice or on their own? Practice doesnt guarantee success, even practice to an extreme.

And again when you pick comparing any of our players to Tu in any way, whatever it is, it will almost always end in disappointment. Tu was one the greatest Muskies ever.

I AGREE �� with you on Tu. To me #1Tyrone Hill #2West #3Larkin #4Tu and so on. #5 Posey, Grant, or maybe D Strong.

[Xuperman]

There is some bluster on the "NIT" thread about missed FTs and leadership....whether Q failed to display any by blowing the W at UT. He did but nobody cared about the NIT anyway, right? FAR more important, in fact season ending to most, was the BE semi lost at the line. ZH missing 1 of 2 TWICE was huge.

Clutch at the line=leadership was on full display last night in the FF. Guy looked like he could make those BIG 3 with his eyes closed....money!!