2019 Coaching Carousel

[X-band '01]

Notable news out of the Atlantic 10 emerging today - Phil Martelli has been dismissed at Saint Joseph's after 24 seasons.

And today just happens to be the feast day of Saint Joseph. Yikes.

[GoMuskies]

I can't believe he lasted so long, honestly. He's an institution there, but it was definitely time for some institutional changes!

But he gets to always be the answer to this trivia question: Which coach handed Xavier its last A-10 loss? By the way, his first year at St. Joe's was Xavier's first year in the A-10.

[noteggs]

Here is a list of openings so far

Kind of surprised that UCLA still has its opening. I know we’re in season but haven’t even heard much (rumors) since beginning of January.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-coaching-changes-phil-martelli-fired-after-23-years-at-saint-josephs/

[bobbiemcgee]

Phil Martelli's quote about XU's Stanley Burrell...


Quote:








“Is there anybody here from the Xavier administration? Do you know when graduation is? That GD Burrell, every year, every GD game makes a shot against us. He was averaging 7.5 points coming into the game in seven league games – or eight games. Doesn’t look like the same player, playing great defense. Dagger. I want to be here to make sure that s.o.b. gets out of here to be honest with you.”

[xavierj]

Here is a list of openings so far

Kind of surprised that UCLA still has its opening. I know weÂ’re in season but havenÂ’t even heard much (rumors) since beginning of January.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-coaching-changes-phil-martelli-fired-after-23-years-at-saint-josephs/

I think they are waiting for UC to be done.

[xuwin]

Phil has always been one of my favorite coaches. He's always been a standup guy and an outstanding coach but his teams have been struggling for the last few years and it was probably time to make a move. He will be a great contribution to somebodies program if he continues to coach.

[American X]

Sorry to see Phil Martelli's run at St. Joseph's go down in flames.

https://media0.giphy.com/media/RJ4vJ1g7owISs/source.gif

[GIMMFD]

You'd have to think he's retiring after this, 64 years old, only place he's known.. crazy to me. Poor guy, the business of college athletics are just that though, business, gotta be cut throat.

Hearing a loooottt of rumblings on the VIP forum on the WVU board that Shaka is gonna get fired and boosters for Texas are ready to throw whatever they need to in order to lure Chris Beard for what it's worth.

[noteggs]

You'd have to think he's retiring after this, 64 years old, only place he's known.. crazy to me. Poor guy, the business of college athletics are just that though, business, gotta be cut throat.

Hearing a loooottt of rumblings on the VIP forum on the WVU board that Shaka is gonna get fired and boosters for Texas are ready to throw whatever they need to in order to lure Chris Beard for what it's worth.

Wow. UT would have to pay a 13 million buyout for Smart. Wouldn’t it be nice if your boss tells you suck and we’re going to let go while collecting a mere 13 million. Sign me up

[xavierj]

You'd have to think he's retiring after this, 64 years old, only place he's known.. crazy to me. Poor guy, the business of college athletics are just that though, business, gotta be cut throat.

Hearing a loooottt of rumblings on the VIP forum on the WVU board that Shaka is gonna get fired and boosters for Texas are ready to throw whatever they need to in order to lure Chris Beard for what it's worth.

So what is the WVU board and how does that relate to Texas?

[XUGRAD80]

So what is the WVU board and how does that relate to Texas?

Both Big 12 schools would be my guess.

[Xavgrad08]

Jeff Boals has been hired at Ohio University. Former OSU assistant with a reputation as a strong recruiter. will be interesting to follow his career. Will be interesting to see if Wake keeps DANNY Manning.

[GoMuskies]

How about Josh Pastner? Seems like he's sucked for long enough at Georgia Tech (great hire Bobo!).

[X-band '01]

How about Josh Pastner? Seems like he's sucked for long enough at Georgia Tech (great hire Bobo!).

Georgia Tech actually has a couple of assistants under NCAA investigation (although Pastner himself isn't under investigation).

[Xavgrad08]

Matt McCall the Umass head coach has fired all three of his assistants. One of the assistants was Rasheen Davis former XU assistant. https://www.gazettenet.com/Coaching-shake-up-Matt-McCall-relieves-three-UMass-assistants-of-duties-24229690

[GIMMFD]

So what is the WVU board and how does that relate to Texas?

Remember, it's a rumor, so you never know, but posted by a guy who lives in Austin, and confirmed by another guy that is in that area as well, both WVU grads, but in heart of Longhorn country. I don't know how valid they are, but considering they were posted on the VIP board where you have to pay, I'm assuming it holds a little bite.

EDIT: Sorry read this wrong at first, it's just a paid board ran by 247 sports, each team had one, I only pay for WVU's because I wanted it for the coaching change and recruiting news that was going on, so buying one month got me 3 free at the time or something like that, pretty informative stuff is behind paywalls for bigger schools just because a lot of boosters and guys with connections to someone either on the team, or in athletics figures stuff out, and two phenomenal journalists that cover WVU athletics officially get a free rain to post news and stuff, but they haven't commented on that particular thread. Maybe trying not to stir things up pre-maturely if they know anything from any rumblings by anybody being a conference mate.


Wow. UT would have to pay a 13 million buyout for Smart. Wouldn’t it be nice if your boss tells you suck and we’re going to let go while collecting a mere 13 million. Sign me up

It helps that Texas has a ridiculous endowment, make a lot of money off crap like The Longhorn Network, etc. If a school had the ability to dump a guy like Shaka, it's Texas. The general reasoning is basically big time boosters just think they should be performing better, let's not forget this is the same school that pushed Rick Barnes out too.

[GoMuskies]

Bryce Drew got canned at Vandy to no one's surprise. Matt Lottich kinda sucks at Valpo. Maybe they force out Lottich to bring their favorite son back home?

[X-band '01]

I'm a little surprised at the Drew firing - he did recruit a pair of McDonald's All-Americans and one of them had a season-ending injury earlier in the year. I thought he'd get at least one more to see how they'd do when healthy.

Avery Johnson is also negotiating a buyout with Alabama, so his departure is imminent.

Danny Manning will be back at Wake Forest for one more year, albeit on a short leash with a new AD.

[xu 89]

Cronin to Alabama

[XUOWNSUC]

Cronin to Alabama

John Brannen to Alabama?

[bleedXblue]

Cronin isn't leaving. No way. Hes a scared little man who is comfortable right where he is.

[Xavgrad08]

I don’t think Cronin will leave, but I think he should leave in the next couple years. At some point he needs to go deep in the tournament and I don’t think he can. His teams lack offense and play tight. I think Mick could rebuild a different program and consistently get to the Tournament. I just don’t think he will advance in the tournament.

[OTRMUSKIE]

I think Bic is gone. Why stay at UC? You suck, your fan base hates you amd you’re short. I think he leaves for UCLA if that’s still open. Now if Bic does decide to leave what will Samari Curtis do? Could X get him back?

[GIMMFD]

I think Bic is gone. Why stay at UC? You suck, your fan base hates you amd you’re short. I think he leaves for UCLA if that’s still open. Now if Bic does decide to leave what will Samari Curtis do? Could X get him back?

I feel like UCLA fans would riot if they hired Mick Cronin due especially to his shortcomings in the NCAA Tournament, by all means they have the resources and history to make a home run hire, I'm just curious who they would go after. People didn't enjoy Ben Howland his boring style of basketball, I really don't think UCLA fans want a guy that can basically only coach defense. I wonder what UCLA's short list looks like, think they go after someone like Buzz Williams who is young but established himself at 2 places, I know Buzz Williams really likes Virginia Tech and he can do whatever he wants there, maybe try to lure Chris Beard away from Texas Tech. Interesting that there hasn't been much going through the rumor mill at a high profile job like UCLA.

[Juice]

I feel like UCLA fans would riot if they hired Mick Cronin due especially to his shortcomings in the NCAA Tournament, by all means they have the resources and history to make a home run hire, I'm just curious who they would go after. People didn't enjoy Ben Howland his boring style of basketball, I really don't think UCLA fans want a guy that can basically only coach defense. I wonder what UCLA's short list looks like, think they go after someone like Buzz Williams who is young but established himself at 2 places, I know Buzz Williams really likes Virginia Tech and he can do whatever he wants there, maybe try to lure Chris Beard away from Texas Tech. Interesting that there hasn't been much going through the rumor mill at a high profile job like UCLA.

No one wants the UCLA job. The expectations are insane and they don’t even do modern things like charter flights.

Also, based on what I’ve heard about Mick’s custody arrangement, he’s not leaving willingly.

[xavierj]

No one wants the UCLA job. The expectations are insane and they don’t even do modern things like charter flights.

Also, based on what I’ve heard about Mick’s custody arrangement, he’s not leaving willingly.

I have no idea what UCLA’s true interest level is in Mick but heard that he would take it if the money and deal Is right. His daughter will be in high school next year and also not out of the question for his Ex to move out to LA. Her sister lives there now and she has nothing that ties her to this area. Plus any financial increase for Mick, benefits her.

[bleedXblue]

No one wants the UCLA job. The expectations are insane and they don’t even do modern things like charter flights.

Also, based on what I’ve heard about Mick’s custody arrangement, he’s not leaving willingly.

Exactly. That job is no longer a top 10 in college bball. They've tried how many coaches over the last 15-20 years and have had limited success. West coast, limited TV exposure and the conference is down. Now, it IS a good job but............

BTW, no f'ing way Cronin is going there. If he left it would be in the midwest somewhere.........but again he isn't leaving on his own accord.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Bic is gone you heard it here first. Only one sweet 16 appearance, his record in the dance is like 6-9. They want him out at UC and I want out prospect back somyes BIC is gone!

[GIMMFD]

No one wants the UCLA job. The expectations are insane and they don’t even do modern things like charter flights.

Also, based on what I’ve heard about Mick’s custody arrangement, he’s not leaving willingly.

Jesus, they don't charter flights? That's insane. I didn't know it was that bad, I feel like UCLA could be a good job, wonder if they roll the dice on a young upen coming coach then, but that blows my mind about the flight thing.

[X-band '01]

A couple of dominoes fell today:

1) Steve Prohm signed an extension that will keep him at Iowa State through 2025.

2) Tim Miles has officially been let go at Nebraska. Word is that Fred Hoiberg is poised to be their next head coach announced shortly.

[bleedXblue]

Will be interesting to see what plays out here in the next 2 months: There are a bunch of really good jobs opening up.

My guesses are:

Arizona- goes young with a sqeaky clean guy to rebuild their image
UCLA- will make another bad hire b/c that's what they do
Alabama- I can see John Brennan going there.......
LSU- tough one to call.........don't think Wade survives

Mick- stays put.........unless a midwest job opens up that is very attractive. IU could open up next year if Archie doesn't get it going......

[JTG]

Will be interesting to see what plays out here in the next 2 months: There are a bunch of really good jobs opening up.

My guesses are:

Arizona- goes young with a sqeaky clean guy to rebuild their image
UCLA- will make another bad hire b/c that's what they do
Alabama- I can see John Brennan going there.......
LSU- tough one to call.........don't think Wade survives

Mick- stays put.........unless a midwest job opens up that is very attractive. IU could open up next year if Archie doesn't get it going......

If IU hires Mick, I'll catch frisbees with my mouth at center court of Cintas. If Miller fails, he and the AD will both be fired, and they ain't hiring Mick.

[Muskie]

Will be interesting to see what plays out here in the next 2 months: There are a bunch of really good jobs opening up.

My guesses are:

Arizona- goes young with a sqeaky clean guy to rebuild their image
UCLA- will make another bad hire b/c that's what they do
Alabama- I can see John Brennan going there.......
LSU- tough one to call.........don't think Wade survives

Mick- stays put.........unless a midwest job opens up that is very attractive. IU could open up next year if Archie doesn't get it going......

I would be absolutely stunned if Mick would get an interview let along the IU job.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[xavierj]

Will be interesting to see what plays out here in the next 2 months: There are a bunch of really good jobs opening up.

My guesses are:

Arizona- goes young with a sqeaky clean guy to rebuild their image
UCLA- will make another bad hire b/c that's what they do
Alabama- I can see John Brennan going there.......
LSU- tough one to call.........don't think Wade survives

Mick- stays put.........unless a midwest job opens up that is very attractive. IU could open up next year if Archie doesn't get it going......

Sean Miller is going no where. He has a monster class coming in. They won’t risk that.

[joe titan]

Will be interesting to see what plays out here in the next 2 months: There are a bunch of really good jobs opening up.

My guesses are:

Arizona- goes young with a sqeaky clean guy to rebuild their image
UCLA- will make another bad hire b/c that's what they do
Alabama- I can see John Brennan going there.......
LSU- tough one to call.........don't think Wade survives

Mick- stays put.........unless a midwest job opens up that is very attractive. IU could open up next year if Archie doesn't get it going......

John Brannen is better off at NKU.

[XU 87]

Sean Miller is going no where. He has a monster class coming in. They won’t risk that.

If they were going to fire him, it seems that they would have done so by now.

[GoMuskies]

John Brannen is better off at NKU.

That's true. Unless, of course, he enjoys money.

[Xavgrad08]

The UCLA job search has been eerily quiet. Are the priority targets still coaching? Buzz Williams, Tony Bennett, or Calipari ( I think Calipari wants the lakers job). I don’t think UCLA lands any of those guys, but I am sure their agents have been contacted to gauge interest. One of them likely has a big offer waiting.

[bjf123]

If IU hires Mick, I'll catch frisbees with my mouth at center court of Cintas.

Halftime show for the Big East home opener?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[MHettel]

The UCLA job search has been eerily quiet. Are the priority targets still coaching? Buzz Williams, Tony Bennett, or Calipari ( I think Calipari wants the lakers job). I don’t think UCLA lands any of those guys, but I am sure their agents have been contacted to gauge interest. One of them likely has a big offer waiting.

Calipari to the Lakers. Never thought of that one. He doesnt want to go BACK to the NBA and fail again, right? once he takes that job, there is no coming back to NCAA.

Can he lure his former stars to come to Tinseltown? Isnt Cousins a UK alum and a FA? If the Lakers can grab him, then suddenly there is a reason to go there, and there IS some trade bait.

Steele to UK?

[X-band '01]

The UCLA job search has been eerily quiet. Are the priority targets still coaching? Buzz Williams, Tony Bennett, or Calipari ( I think Calipari wants the lakers job). I don’t think UCLA lands any of those guys, but I am sure their agents have been contacted to gauge interest. One of them likely has a big offer waiting.


Calipari to the Lakers. Never thought of that one. He doesnt want to go BACK to the NBA and fail again, right? once he takes that job, there is no coming back to NCAA.

Can he lure his former stars to come to Tinseltown? Isnt Cousins a UK alum and a FA? If the Lakers can grab him, then suddenly there is a reason to go there, and there IS some trade bait.

Steele to UK?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ay3cP5YkJgE

[XUGRAD80]

Call is already coaching a “pro” team....might even have to take a pay cut to go to LA.

Just KIDDING everyone...relax!


(But somebody had to SAY it....:) )

[D-West & PO-Z]

Calipari to the Lakers. Never thought of that one. He doesnt want to go BACK to the NBA and fail again, right? once he takes that job, there is no coming back to NCAA.

Can he lure his former stars to come to Tinseltown? Isnt Cousins a UK alum and a FA? If the Lakers can grab him, then suddenly there is a reason to go there, and there IS some trade bait.

Steele to UK?

I am not sure if he wants to go back to NBA or not but if he did and failed, why do you say there is no coming back to the NCAA? He is only 60.

[bleedXblue]

If they were going to fire him, it seems that they would have done so by now.

Well there is this little issue of being subpoenaed to testify. He can't perjure himself or he's going to face some real issues, like jail time.

So, hes going to have to come clean.......and they have some pretty strong evidence......a recording of him having a conversation with Dawkins.....

[bleedXblue]

Curious why people think that Mick wouldn't get a look by IU? They hired Archie Miller? Who was less accomplished...........

[D-West & PO-Z]

Curious why people think that Mick wouldn't get a look by IU? They hired Archie Miller? Who was less accomplished...........

Less accomplished in terms of consistent regular season success but what Mick's longevity has shown is that he can't win in March. Whether it be his system, philosophy, lack of coaching ability in crunch time or vs better teams, whatever it may be. He has been past the first weekend once, in I think 13 years (could be off on years). That is bad and I cant imagine would be acceptable to IU fans (delusional or not). Heck, there is a sizable chunk of UC fans who dont want Mick and their expectations are not high or unreasonable.

When you take a more up and comer like Archie who has a big run in the tourney, you might not have a proven track record but you also dont have someone who has shown they cant get it done in March.

[XU 87]

Hiring coaches like Archie Miller have much more potential up-side than hiring coaches like Cronin.

[Muskie]

Anderson out at Arkansas despite a 169-102 record during his tenure.

[bleedXblue]

Less accomplished in terms of consistent regular season success but what Mick's longevity has shown is that he can't win in March. Whether it be his system, philosophy, lack of coaching ability in crunch time or vs better teams, whatever it may be. He has been past the first weekend once, in I think 13 years (could be off on years). That is bad and I cant imagine would be acceptable to IU fans (delusional or not). Heck, there is a sizable chunk of UC fans who dont want Mick and their expectations are not high or unreasonable.

When you take a more up and comer like Archie who has a big run in the tourney, you might not have a proven track record but you also dont have someone who has shown they cant get it done in March.

Yeah........I don't buy that at all. Mick has proven he can coach and can win. IU isn't simply looking at post season success when they look at a HC.

They took a flyer on Archie after he lost in the first round his last two seasons at UD?

[bleedXblue]

Hiring coaches like Archie Miller have much more potential up-side than hiring coaches like Cronin.

yet he has not won or achieved anything close to what IU is expecting in his first two years?

[D-West & PO-Z]

Yeah........I don't buy that at all. Mick has proven he can coach and can win. IU isn't simply looking at post season success when they look at a HC.

They took a flyer on Archie after he lost in the first round his last two seasons at UD?

You dont think coaches are hired and fired for what happens in March???

Edit: and I mean largely, not solely. There would be a revolt of IU fans if they hired Mick and I wouldnt blame them. A coach with that much time as a head coach at a good program with little to No success in March is not getting that job.

Guys at smaller programs who make one run or with less HC experience have a much better chance due to potential like 87 said. Mick is the Marvin Lewis of college basketball. What is the upside there?

[D-West & PO-Z]

yet he has not won or achieved anything close to what IU is expecting in his first two years?

Potential upside.

Everyone knows what they'd be getting in Cronin. Some schools would kill for it and love it. Not schools like IU.

Edit: and to be fair Miller has been there only two years. I think people get the feeling it is longer when they think about it. Two years is too soon to evaluate the success of a coach. Next year is a big one for him.

[bleedXblue]

Potential upside.

Everyone knows what they'd be getting in Cronin. Some schools would kill for it and love it. Not schools like IU.

Edit: and to be fair Miller has been there only two years. I think people get the feeling it is longer when they think about it. Two years is too soon to evaluate the success of a coach. Next year is a big one for him.

Likely losing Langford and replacing him with a couple of good prospects, but would be very surprised to see a year where they compete for the Big 10 title

[bleedXblue]

You dont think coaches are hired and fired for what happens in March???

Edit: and I mean largely, not solely. There would be a revolt of IU fans if they hired Mick and I wouldnt blame them. A coach with that much time as a head coach at a good program with little to No success in March is not getting that job.

Guys at smaller programs who make one run or with less HC experience have a much better chance due to potential like 87 said. Mick is the Marvin Lewis of college basketball. What is the upside there?

You don't think that IU believes that coaches can recruit at a higher level than they previously have b/c they are IU? They think with their history, league affiliation etc, that coaches can do MORE than what they have previously.

Look, I don't care one way or the other about Cronin........I just think its funny that a guy with the success he's had is written off completely by some b/c of a lack of march tourney success. IMHO, that's simply not the case

[D-West & PO-Z]

You don't think that IU believes that coaches can recruit at a higher level than they previously have b/c they are IU? They think with their history, league affiliation etc, that coaches can do MORE than what they have previously.

Look, I don't care one way or the other about Cronin........I just think its funny that a guy with the success he's had is written off completely by some b/c of a lack of march tourney success. IMHO, that's simply not the case

I think they probably think that of a lower level coach. Thing is Cronin has recruited plenty well. He has two players from last years team in the NBA and conference player of the year this year. He can't win in March. That is huge because that is what ultimately a coach's reputation comes down to. Ultimately years down the road no one cares that Cronin won the AAC last year, but they will remember he blew yet another double digit lead in the tournament and failed yet again to get to the 2nd weekend.

IMO that reason alone will be enough for Cronin not to get the IU job, probably not even interview interest by them, but I dont think it would be their only reason.

[X-band '01]

Anderson out at Arkansas despite a 169-102 record during his tenure.

That's good at most places, but at Arkansas that's not even close to the level that Eddie Sutton and Nolan Richardson elevated that program. The Hogs only had 3 NCAA appearances in 8 seasons under Anderson.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Bic is out at UC. Turn on 700wlw. Can we now get Curtis back?

[xubrew]

The speculation gap on Cronin is rather amusing. Some say UC is ready to fire him because he's terrible. Others think that he'll be hired away UCLA or IU (which almost assuredly will not open up) presumably because he's good. I don't think either one will happen, but who knows?

[bleedXblue]

The speculation gap on Cronin is rather amusing. Some say UC is ready to fire him because he's terrible. Others think that he'll be hired away UCLA or IU (which almost assuredly will not open up) presumably because he's good. I don't think either one will happen, but who knows?

UC is not firing Cronin. That is laughable at best........

[X-band '01]

Someone had pointed out that UCLA doesn't even charter flights for their basketball program - does UC do so right now? Even if UCLA isn't what it once was, there is still a lot more upside for him out there should he feel the need to finally pull the trigger.

By the same token, UCLA ran Ben Howland out of town because his team was too "boring" for their fans. Mick Cronin is not an upgrade in that department.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I dont think they are firing Mick but apparently they offered him a new contract that was essentially a pay cut. We could see him leave and that may be because UC doesn't really want to keep him. A program like Alabama would be thrilled to have Mick.

On 700 they were saying the big money benefactors sent the notice to UC administration that they felt like it was time to move on from Mick. IF you dont see a new better contract for him I think he leaves and it is basically because UC is wanting him to. I really dont think Mick wants to leave so it will be telling if he does.

Edit: I guess the contract ext that was a paycut was offered last fall. Nothing new has been offered since.

[X-band '01]

Alabama has up to 4 guys now that have entered the NCAA transfer portal. Whoever ends up taking that job better be prepared to reload and reload fast. The SEC ain't messing around with their head coaches this year.

[xudash]

I dont think they are firing Mick but apparently they offered him a new contract that was essentially a pay cut. We could see him leave and that may be because UC doesn't really want to keep him. A program like Alabama would be thrilled to have Mick.

On 700 they were saying the big money benefactors sent the notice to UC administration that they felt like it was time to move on from Mick. IF you dont see a new better contract for him I think he leaves and it is basically because UC is wanting him to. I really dont think Mick wants to leave so it will be telling if he does.

Edit: I guess the contract ext that was a paycut was offered last fall. Nothing new has been offered since.

We almost cannot afford to have the YTG leave UC. What will we do for fun?

[bleedXblue]

UC's athletic department was losing money the last time I recall seeing a financial report. Didn't they just raise student tuition b/c of the deficit as well?

Getting a big raise in that kind of environment is......not going to happen.

Mick has his chance to look elsewhere..........but still doubt he takes it. He's an ass clown

[xubrew]

It's my understanding that three years ago Alabama made the decision that they wanted to be a top ten basketball program. Instead of paying a coach $2 million and change like they were paying Anthony Grant and making the NCAA Tournament some of the time, they wanted to spend over $4 million and hire someone that would make them a top ten program. Now they haven't exactly gotten to where they want to be yet, and may never get there if three years is all they're going to give a guy who did pretty well (not great, but pretty well), and would have done better had it not been for injuries, but that's what they want to be. I guess they're going to get rid of any coach that hasn't gotten them there by the end of Year 3. I don't know if it's a 'Keeping Up With the Joneses" type of thing, but a lot of SEC schools have started to dumb a lot more money into basketball than they what they had five or ten years ago.

I don't know if Bama will get who they want, or if they'll like who they end up with, but they're serious about wanting somebody big, and they're willing to pay big money to get them. It must be nice to be able to do that. I also don't think it helped Avery Johnson when Ole Miss went to the tournament in Kermit Davis's first year when they were expected to be absolutely putrid, and Bama didn't when they were expected to be good. LSU, Tennessee, and Auburn all being ranked high for most of the season probably didn't help either. So, whoever goes there better be of the mindset that if they're not ranked in the teens and going to Sweet Sixteens almost right away, that they're going to be out.

[XU 87]

Avery Johnson was at Alabama for 4 years. He went 85-72 and went to the dance once, winning a game last year. One would think he would have been given at least one more year.

[throwbackmuskie]

Buzz Williams is going to Texas AM.

[murray87]

It makes me chuckle that UC offered little Mick an extension that was a pay cut. He better take it if he knows what's good for him.

[JTG]

Halftime show for the Big East home opener?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Sure, why not ! I'll never lose sleep over that happening.

[XU 87]

Interesting article written by Mick Croni....... I mean Mike Decourcey.

http://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-basketball/news/cincinnati-could-be-coaching-carousel-loser-mick-cronin/2lj8hnfrcm5k1a3jq978iu7a0

[xubrew]

It makes me chuckle that UC offered little Mick an extension that was a pay cut. He better take it if he knows what's good for him.

I'm not so sure that I would. It's in both their best interests to work it out, but if it turns into a standoff where neither side blinks UC will probably be more screwed in the long run than he would. I don't know how many good coaches would want to go to a place that cut the pay of a coach who made that many consecutive tournaments and then refused to negotiate. He'll get another job. If not this year, then next year. UC may be screwed for a much longer period of time.

[XU 87]

Cronin is an interesting dilemma. He's too successful to fire, but he doesn't win when it counts, he is a terrible face for the university, and he is generally not particularly liked by the fans and alumni.

[X-band '01]

Alabama hiring Nate Oats away from Buffalo.

[xubrew]

Cronin is an interesting dilemma. He's too successful to fire, but he doesn't win when it counts, he is a terrible face for the university, and he is generally not particularly liked by the fans and alumni.

Well to be fair, for the last 25 years I think Xavier is the only team of any kind that's located in the city of Cincinnati that has won when it counted.

[xubrew]

Alabama hiring Nate Oats away from Buffalo.

Oh DAMN!!

[D-West & PO-Z]

Buzz Williams is going to Texas AM.

If he does, Mick could reunite with the AD who hired him at UC. I think VaTech is another school that would love to have Mick. Can you believe this is Va Tech's first Sweet 16 ever? I had no idea.

[Juice]

If he does, Mick could reunite with the AD who hired him at UC. I think VaTech is another school that would love to have Mick. Can you believe this is Va Tech's first Sweet 16 ever? I had no idea.

It would suck for them to go from Buzz to Mick though.

[D-West & PO-Z]

It would suck for them to go from Buzz to Mick though.

Yes true. They wouldnt be thrilled to have Mick over Buzz. But if they lose Buzz I think VaTech would be happy just getting someone who would probably make them competitive and tourney bound on a yearly basis. Most programs would to be fair.

[X-band '01]

If he does, Mick could reunite with the AD who hired him at UC. I think VaTech is another school that would love to have Mick. Can you believe this is Va Tech's first Sweet 16 ever? I had no idea.

It's actually their first Sweet 16 since their 1967 team that actually went to the Elite 8.


It would suck for them to go from Buzz to Mick though.

I can't wait to see this board when Virginia Tech and Louisville square off in conference play.

[D-West & PO-Z]

It's actually their first Sweet 16 since their 1967 team that actually went to the Elite 8.



I can't wait to see this board when Virginia Tech and Louisville square off in conference play.

Oh thanks. Maybe they said first one in current format..

[noteggs]

Also interesting VT (Bands comment on ‘67 team is correct) they’ve only made it 11 times including last 3 under Buzz.

What sucks is the fan base is getting behind their basketball team and finally having success only to have rumors their coach might leave. Almost like a team getting their first number 1 seed and hearing similar rumors (boy I’d hate to be put in that position).

[Xville]

Alabama hiring Nate Oats away from Buffalo.

The sec just keeps getting better. About 5 years ago or so, it was kentucky and a bunch of junk. SEC at that time knew that in order to get better, they had to hire better coaches, and so they did. Now they have 4 in the sweet 16 and have had multiple final four teams in the past few years. Big east needs to rise to that level of coaching, without the dirtiness of course :).

[xu82]

This coaching carousel thing bothers me so much less when OUR coach is not in play. Having said that.....I can’t wait until everybody wants our coach again!

Why can’t life be easier???

[xavierj]

The sec just keeps getting better. About 5 years ago or so, it was kentucky and a bunch of junk. SEC at that time knew that in order to get better, they had to hire better coaches, and so they did. Now they have 4 in the sweet 16 and have had multiple final four teams in the past few years. Big east needs to rise to that level of coaching, without the dirtiness of course :).

I think the jury is still out on Nate Oats. He walked into a great situation at Buffalo and not sure he left it in great shape. He played with Hurley’s guys and parlayed it into a better paying job at Alabama. He had to leave now and I don’t think he will win much at Bama. Buffalo will not be good next year.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Does Williams have some sort of connection to Texas A&M? Curious why he'd leave.

[X-band '01]

If you go by his Wikipedia bio, he does have roots in the state of Texas - born and raised in Texas, he got his undergrad at TAMU-Kingsville and also was an assistant at Texas A&M for a couple of years.

[XUGRAD80]

Does Williams have some sort of connection to Texas A&M? Curious why he'd leave.

I believe that he is originally from Texas....don’t know about A&M.

[Xavgrad08]

Does Williams have some sort of connection to Texas A&M? Curious why he'd leave.

Buzz is originally from Texas and spent two years as an assistant at Texas A&M. From a strictly basketball perspective I am not sure it is a step up. I suppose easier conference and lots of high school talent in the Texas area? Texas A&M offered jumbo Fisher a huge contract so I am curious as to how much Buzz’s offer will be.

[Xville]

I think the jury is still out on Nate Oats. He walked into a great situation at Buffalo and not sure he left it in great shape. He played with Hurley’s guys and parlayed it into a better paying job at Alabama. He had to leave now and I don’t think he will win much at Bama. Buffalo will not be good next year.

Walked into a great situation? What are you talking about? First off, their best player from the year before was dismissed from the team his first year, and oats was completely praised for getting that team to the tourney because of the dearth of talent. ( sound familiar?) Second, He was the assistant and recruited most of those guys. The ones he didnt, he brought in as head coach or aa transfers like wes clark (missouri) a couple years ago who was on the ncaa team last year.

He took buffalo that powerhouse of a basketball program to 3 tournaments in 4 seasons.

[Xville]

Does Williams have some sort of connection to Texas A&M? Curious why he'd leave.

$$$$$$ a&m has buttloads of it. Fisher left an NFL factory at florida state for it.

[D-West & PO-Z]

$$$$$$ a&m has buttloads of it. Fisher left an NFL factory at florida state for it.

Yeah. He likes to jump around man if he leaves. $$ talks tho.

[paulxu]

but a lot of SEC schools have started to dumb a lot more money into basketball than they what they had five or ten years ago.


Did you type that on purpose?
It is true that the SEC schools have a LOT of money from football. So, why not spend some on basketball.
This will not be good for the AAC though.
Time to throw Marshall's name back in the hat?

[xubrew]

Did you type that on purpose?
It is true that the SEC schools have a LOT of money from football. So, why not spend some on basketball.
This will not be good for the AAC though.
Time to throw Marshall's name back in the hat?

I didn't type that on purpose, but it still kinda fits! Haha.

When I look at the way some schools spend money, particularly some of the power schools, I've concluded that a ton of money still won't get you what you want if you don't spend it right.

They can spend as much as they want however they want. It's their money. But the "Here's a ton of money, now get us into the top ten in three years or you're out" plan may not be the best plan no matter how much money they spend.

[xubrew]

Walked into a great situation? What are you talking about? First off, their best player from the year before was dismissed from the team his first year, and oats was completely praised for getting that team to the tourney because of the dearth of talent. ( sound familiar?) Second, He was the assistant and recruited most of those guys. The ones he didnt, he brought in as head coach or aa transfers like wes clark (missouri) a couple years ago who was on the ncaa team last year.

He took buffalo that powerhouse of a basketball program to 3 tournaments in 4 seasons.

Nate Oats is also a PHENOMENAL bench coach. Buffalo can beat teams 94-90 or 54-50. They don't just have a couple of things in their toolbox and if those things don't work then they're doomed. They could play a lot of different ways. I think he's about as good as anyone Bama could have gotten. I kinda hate to see him leave Buffalo. I'm not entirely up on my knowledge of them, but I think they have three starters back and two transfer players who were ineligible this year that will likely step into starting roles. They should still be pretty good. At least by MAC standards. Perhaps not by Round of 32 standards.

[xavierj]

Nate Oats is also a PHENOMENAL bench coach. Buffalo can beat teams 94-90 or 54-50. They don't just have a couple of things in their toolbox and if those things don't work then they're doomed. They could play a lot of different ways. I think he's about as good as anyone Bama could have gotten. I kinda hate to see him leave Buffalo. I'm not entirely up on my knowledge of them, but I think they have three starters back and two transfer players who were ineligible this year that will likely step into starting roles. They should still be pretty good. At least by MAC standards. Perhaps not by Round of 32 standards.

Buffalo had a couple of transfers sitting out but they lose 5 seniors. They have like 14 points a game coming back. They won’t be the same although they should be competitive in the MAC. The two transfers sitting out will be decent but they will also only be there for one season. I just don’t think he will make a huge difference at Alabama but time will tell. Bama is a football school that looks at basketball as a way to pass time between the national championship in February and spring practice.

[xubrew]

Greg Byrne cares A LOT about basketball. They wouldn't be spending the kind of money on basketball that they are if he didn't. They wouldn't have fired a former NBA coach and player who went to the NBA finals for only making the tournament once in four years if all they wanted to do was go through the motions. A lot of people in Alabama care a lot about basketball. Maybe not EVERYONE because there are a lot of people who never attended the school, but who simply live in the state that only care about football (and to be fair, that is quite a few people). But a lot of the alumni have made it known that they want the basketball to be better. They wouldn't have hired Greg Byrne away from Arizona, which is a basketball school, if that were not the case, and they wouldn't be spending the money that they are on basketball if all it was to them was a way to pass the time.

[X-Fan]

Carousel heating up again...

Hoiberg to Nebraska $$$$$$$

Sounds like Buzz to A&M is a done deal, and the dominoes of this would have some impact on another Big East program.

Will be interesting to see who gets the Vandy job.

Zags Blog has a good tracker on it all:
https://www.zagsblog.com/2019/03/27/updated-ncaa-coaching-carousel-movement/

[Muskie]

What are the Buzz Williams dominoes?

[JTG]

What are the Buzz Williams dominoes?

Some talk of Wojo moving, but I can't see that. Buzz just chases money. No loyalty at all.

[X-band '01]

Would also be interesting to see if former UC athletic director Whit Babcock takes a look at Mick Cronin if and when the Virginia Tech job opens.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Would also be interesting to see if former UC athletic director Whit Babcock takes a look at Mick Cronin if and when the Virginia Tech job opens.

I would venture to guess he would be towards the top of the list. At first that would be hilarious if UC lost him but then I think half their fan base might actually be happy and then I also think how awful that would be for XU fans. All Xavier fans should hope for a lifetime contract for Mick at UC.

[X-Fan]

What are the Buzz Williams dominoes?


Some talk of Wojo moving, but I can't see that. Buzz just chases money. No loyalty at all.

Per a tweet from Adam Zagoria (@AdamZagoria):
This is the wildest, most fun, Coaching Carousel Dominoes theory I've heard in a long time:

Buzz Williams to Texas A&M

Kevin Willard to Virginia Tech

Tim Cluess to Seton Hall

Jared Grasso to Iona.

[MITTENMUSKIE16]

Some talk of Wojo moving, but I can't see that. Buzz just chases money. No loyalty at all.

I mean Buzz is from Texas, got his Masters from Texas A&M... It may not be a great job right now, and it’s not better than Va tech, but it’s in a good conference with an open checkbook for facilities, salary, etc. attract top talent and pay good assistants.

[Juice]

I mean Buzz is from Texas, got his Masters from Texas A&M... It may not be a great job right now, and it’s not better than Va tech, but it’s in a good conference with an open checkbook for facilities, salary, etc. attract top talent and pay good assistants.

It’s a better job right now. He just won’t have as good of a roster. I’d take A&M over Va Tech any year since they’ve joined the SEC.

[GetUp5]

Not to mention VTech will be losing 3 senior starters.

[throwbackmuskie]

Was a bit of talk about Frank Martin to Va Tech. Also heard JT3's name mentioned at Vandy.

[joe titan]

Was a bit of talk about Frank Martin to Va Tech. Also heard JT3's name mentioned at Vandy.

Other names to Vandy heard/speculated Alford, Jeff Capel, Richard Pitino

[GoMuskies]

Other names to Vandy heard/speculated Alford, Jeff Capel, Richard Pitino

Sounds like they're trying to make JTIII sound like a great choice!

[bleedXblue]

I cant believe that Alford is still getting job opportunities...........at major schools.......

[Xavgrad08]

Ky locks up Calipari for the next ten years. Calipari will serve as an ambassador for Ky basketball after his coaching career is finished. UCLA’s offer to Calipari was 6 years 48 million. This would have been a pay cut on a per year basis for Calipari. George Vogel is reporting Cronin and UC are working on an extension.
https://www.wlky.com/amp/article/uk-calipari-agree-on-long-term-career-ending-contract/27010955.

[X-band '01]

I'm sure UC's potential extension had nothing to do with the LA Times reporting that UCLA's two leading candidates for their head coaching job are now Jamie Dixon and Mick Cronin.

[bleedXblue]

Ky locks up Calipari for the next ten years. Calipari will serve as an ambassador for Ky basketball after his coaching career is finished. UCLA’s offer to Calipari was 6 years 48 million. This would have been a pay cut on a per year basis for Calipari. George Vogel is reporting Cronin and UC are working on an extension.
https://www.wlky.com/amp/article/uk-calipari-agree-on-long-term-career-ending-contract/27010955.

There is no such thing as a sure thing in this profession. If Cal wants out in 2 years to do something else, I am sure there is a buy out clause. These "contracts" as we all know, are nothing more than an employment agreement.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I'm sure UC's potential extension had nothing to do with the LA Times reporting that UCLA's two leading candidates for their head coaching job are now Jamie Dixon and Mick Cronin.

And the VaTech rumors I am sure.

Good, given Cronin a lifetime contract!

[scoscox]

I've seen UCLA people citing their offer of added amenities to lure Cal from Kentucky like "chartered flights". ucla is so far behind and they don't even know it. they offered him a freaking pay cut

[XUOWNSUC]

I'd be willing to donate $5 to a GoFundMe campaign aimed at keeping Mick Cronin at UC forever. I'd might even go as high as $20....

[XUGRAD80]

Having grown up in Cincinnati I do follow UC and wish them to be a successful program. Based on that I feel that UC could do better than what Mick gives them.

But as a Xavier grad and fan for 45 years I say.....pay the man! I hope he stays at UC forever! It almost guarantees that X will be top dog in Cincinnati the rest of my life. :)

[scoscox]

Yea I’m rooting for a mick extension. If he leaves I have a feeling John Brannen gets the job and I personally think that’d be bad news

[XU 87]

My concern is that Cronin leaves and UC hires a coach who 1) does not routinely act like an immoral degenerate or 2) doesn’t routinely act like an a-hole. It makes it so easier to hate a program with such head coaches.

[Juice]

My concern is that Cronin leaves and UC hires a coach who 1) does not routinely act like an immoral degenerate or 2) doesn’t routinely act like an a-hole. It makes it so easier to hate a program with such head coaches.

On the Skinny podcast today Brendel mentioned Nick Van Exel as a replacement candidate.

[xudash]

Cronin in Los Angeles. Cronin. Mick. Mick Cronin, in LA.

That is funny on so many levels. A douchebag from the Westside of Cincinnati lands in Westwood and hobnobs with the in-crowd! I just can't see that happening.

[paulxu]

Sure you can!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2698/4255064211_18bbb5c5a7.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/90/8d/e5/908de5dbad586c87dbea4fed962dfe8e.jpg

[XU 87]

On the Skinny podcast today Brendel mentioned Nick Van Exel as a replacement candidate.

A perfect hire!

[Lloyd Braun]

I don’t want to see Mick leave at all. I’d contribute to the go fund me.

UCLA would be fools to hire him.

[xudash]

Sure you can!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2698/4255064211_18bbb5c5a7.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/90/8d/e5/908de5dbad586c87dbea4fed962dfe8e.jpg

Priceless

[nuts4xu]

UCLA would be fools to hire him.

This is why I would love to see it. Mick thinks he is better than UC, thinks he is better than the AAC, thinks he isn't respected enough. He goes to UCLA, on that big stage, and fails miserably, he will be back coaching Woodward HS in a few years. He is a joke of a coach, and UC has given him a safe place to grow his brand. He is a whiner, and no one believes his tough guy schtick.

[throwbackmuskie]

Jerry Stackhouse to Vandy is the newest.

As far as Micky, I agree he would fail at UCLA, would rather him linger at UC. I will say this, if Mick were to leave, I see UC falling further behind. IF Houston can keep Sampson, and Penny can keep recruiting at Memphis, I think they will start to outpace UC.

[xavierdude]

So if Mick leaves, Samari Curtis comes back to X, right? :)

[Xville]

So if Mick leaves, Samari Curtis comes back to X, right? :)

Meh. He can stay where he's at. Not impressed by him at all.

[STL_XUfan]

This is why I would love to see it. Mick thinks he is better than UC, thinks he is better than the AAC, thinks he isn't respected enough. He goes to UCLA, on that big stage, and fails miserably, he will be back coaching Woodward HS in a few years. He is a joke of a coach, and UC has given him a safe place to grow his brand. He is a whiner, and no one believes his tough guy schtick.

If he take the UCLA job he should know that he will be out of coaching in 4 years. So if he is looking to retire, then he should fleece UCLA for as much guaranteed cash as he can and ride off into the sunset. To be honest, not a bad option.

[bleedXblue]

Meh. He can stay where he's at. Not impressed by him at all.

Mr Ohio basketball and a guy that we had previously recruited?

Ok, I might agree that I like KyKy as a player much better, but Curtis is a solid player

[bleedXblue]

Cronin just trying to leverage UC as much as he can............I'm sure his agent is strongly encouraging him to make the trip out west and visit Wally World while he is at it.......imagine Mick and John Candy on a roller coaster together....someone with photo shop skills please help me!!!!!

[Xville]

Mr Ohio basketball and a guy that we had previously recruited?

Ok, I might agree that I like KyKy as a player much better, but Curtis is a solid player

He's fine, he can't sniff KyKy or Bishop's jock though.

[sirthought]

That UCLA team is loaded with talent. Whoever coaches there who can teach defense will have winning programs for at least 2-3 years.

[Masterofreality]

This is why I would love to see it. Mick thinks he is better than UC, thinks he is better than the AAC, thinks he isn't respected enough. He goes to UCLA, on that big stage, and fails miserably, he will be back coaching Woodward HS in a few years. He is a joke of a coach, and UC has given him a safe place to grow his brand. He is a whiner, and no one believes his tough guy schtick.

I would be so there for the Clownshow Circus that would result. Can you imagine fans in LA that are used to the flashy "Lakeshow" trying to wrap their heads around "gritty, ugly offense, defensive minded" basketball. Bill Walton's head would explode over all the 49-46 games.
Mick's recruiting would be horrendous too. He won't find the goons out west like he does here.

[XU 87]

I am starting a GoFundMe page to help pays towards Cronin's salary increase needed to keep him at UC. We can't let him leave.

[xudash]

Does Cronin even know what Perrier is?

[X-Fan]

Buzz Williams to be announced as Texas A&M coach on Thursday (per Rothstein). Curious to see the domino effect of hires.

[fellahmuskie]

I love not having to worry about our coach in the mix. If Steele can lock down 2-3 big recruiting classes and go on a run in the tournament, we need to lock him up for good with the money we were going to throw at Mack. Of course, given the trajectory of ex-Xavier coaches, he'll probably get poached by UNC or Duke after taking us to the final four.

[Muskie]

Buzz Williams to be announced as Texas A&M coach on Thursday (per Rothstein). Curious to see the domino effect of hires.

VT Board do not appear to want Willard. They prefer Wojo it seems.

[Xville]

VT Board do not appear to want Willard. They prefer Wojo it seems.

I think Marquette can do better than wojo, so they can have him.

[Masterofreality]

Cronin just trying to leverage UC as much as he can............I'm sure his agent is strongly encouraging him to make the trip out west and visit Wally World while he is at it.......imagine Mick and John Candy on a roller coaster together....someone with photo shop skills please help me!!!!!

What is really telling is that Whit Babcock, uc's old AD and Mickey Mouse's boss, does not seem to want him at VA tech, but prefers Willard.
I also think UCLA is waiting for the NIT to be over to get with Jamie Dixon. Cronin is trying to pull a leverage job, but no one at SucKS seems to be falling for it because they really don't think he's that much in play anyway. I would guess that there are also some big SucKS fatcats that would love for a Brian Gregory scenario to unfold- that is a guy who is on a downward slide, but with a stupid contract- just leaves on his own and bails them out.

[Xville]

Rumor is dixon heading to UCLA if they can get buyout worked out. Pretty good hire for UCLA with who else is out there.

[MHettel]

why did Dixon leave Pitt, and when was that?

If I recall, he took that TCU job becasue he was an alum and just wanted a shot to coach there. Wasnt forced out at Pitt or anything like that. Just a job that he WANTED to take.

So, why the sudden reversal to take UCLA? How long was he at TCU? Seems like about 4 years to me, but maybe I'm off by alot.

[Muskie]

Remember when they ran Ben Howland out of town (after 3 Final Fours). Isn't Dixon the same coach without the FF's?

[xavierj]

Remember when they ran Ben Howland out of town (after 3 Final Fours). Isn't Dixon the same coach without the FF's?

Dixon is garbage. I think that report is false.

[GoMuskies]

I think Dixon is great and would be an excellent hire for UCLA. He was fantastic at Pitt (look what's happened there since he left), and his TCU teams have been pretty solid as well (huge upgrade from when he got there).

[X-band '01]

What is really telling is that Whit Babcock, uc's old AD and Mickey Mouse's boss, does not seem to want him at VA tech, but prefers Willard.
I also think UCLA is waiting for the NIT to be over to get with Jamie Dixon. Cronin is trying to pull a leverage job, but no one at SucKS seems to be falling for it because they really don't think he's that much in play anyway. I would guess that there are also some big SucKS fatcats that would love for a Brian Gregory scenario to unfold- that is a guy who is on a downward slide, but with a stupid contract- just leaves on his own and bails them out.

TCU got knocked out by Texas last night, so we could hear anytime as to whether or not they indeed pull the trigger on Dixon.

[X-band '01]

Remember when they ran Ben Howland out of town (after 3 Final Fours). Isn't Dixon the same coach without the FF's?

To be fair, it wasn't like Howland got any of those Final 4s at Pitt, either. He built Pitt back up after the Ralph Willard trainwreck and Dixon had some decent runs at Pitt himself. Dixon will have a much easier time winning in the Pac-12 than he will trying to win in the Big 12 at TCU.

[Xville]

Dixon is garbage. I think that report is false.

A guy who took pitt...PITT! to the elite eight, and a regular season championship twice during what was the best basketball conference at the time is garbage? He also has resurrected TCU from absolutely nothing.

Is the guy the best coach ever? No, but I think it's a damn good hire. Hes done good work with programs with no tradition, I'll be interested to see what he could do at a place like ucla.

[noteggs]

Dixon definitely has the hair and look for Tinseltown. Mick - not so much.

[D-West & PO-Z]

VT Board do not appear to want Willard. They prefer Wojo it seems.

Neither is great but Willard is definitely better than Wojo imo.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I think Dixon is great and would be an excellent hire for UCLA. He was fantastic at Pitt (look what's happened there since he left), and his TCU teams have been pretty solid as well (huge upgrade from when he got there).

Yeah I agree. Dixon would be a good hire for them imo.

[xavierj]

Yeah I agree. Dixon would be a good hire for them imo.

I think if he goes to UCLA he will last three years. He had a lot of talent on this years TCU team and they tanked. A lot of TCU fans are not impressed by him. Last time he saw the 2nd week of the tournament was 10 years ago. He is overrated.

[X-band '01]

Just who, pray tell, are those TCU fans impressed with? They didn't even have so much as a sniff of the NCAAs since Billy Tubbs was their head coach at the turn of the century. I don't deny that they should be a little disappointed after taking a step backward this season, but ask Pitt fans how they feel now about being impatient with Jamie Dixon.

[xavierj]

Just who, pray tell, are those TCU fans impressed with? They didn't even have so much as a sniff of the NCAAs since Billy Tubbs was their head coach at the turn of the century. I don't deny that they should be a little disappointed after taking a step backward this season, but ask Pitt fans how they feel now about being impatient with Jamie Dixon.

Can you imagine what Xavier fans would think in 10 years, 10 years without a 2nd weekend in the NCAA tourney? And to think UCLA thinks they have to have him that they will pay $8 million buyout is kind of mind boggling. He is past his prime and his last 10 years kind of shows thatin my opionion. He had some really talented Pitt Teams, one Xavier bounced and he had another that got very lucky to beat Xavier.

[bleedXblue]

Can you imagine what Xavier fans would think in 10 years, 10 years without a 2nd weekend in the NCAA tourney? And to think UCLA thinks they have to have him that they will pay $8 million buyout is kind of mind boggling. He is past his prime and his last 10 years kind of shows thatin my opionion. He had some really talented Pitt Teams, one Xavier bounced and he had another that got very lucky to beat Xavier.

They are desperately trying to cling to the past. Their program is obviously not what it once was........and the clear evidence is that they are getting a washed up coach who's never really been considered even a Top 10 coach in college basketball. If they pay 8 MM dollars for a buyout..........they should riot on campus. That's a ridiculous waste of money for a public school.

[xavierj]

They are desperately trying to cling to the past. Their program is obviously not what it once was........and the clear evidence is that they are getting a washed up coach who's never really been considered even a Top 10 coach in college basketball. If they pay 8 MM dollars for a buyout..........they should riot on campus. That's a ridiculous waste of money for a public school.

Yep. Plus he is currently making $3.2 million. They would have to play him probably $4 or $5 million at UCLA. They are idiots.

[xubrew]

Dixon is garbage. I think that report is false.


I think if he goes to UCLA he will last three years. He had a lot of talent on this years TCU team and they tanked. A lot of TCU fans are not impressed by him. Last time he saw the 2nd week of the tournament was 10 years ago. He is overrated.

You don't actually know any TCU fans, do you? That is NOT how they feel.

It's a small school with a small alumni base that isn't all that centrally located. About four or five years ago they really didn't have any basketball fans. The few that they did have are definitely still around, and they kinda like that they're now way above Tulane's level, which is basically what they were before he got there.

[XUBison]

Neither is great but Willard is definitely better than Wojo imo.

Agreed. I don’t get why people hate Willard. He’s done pretty damn well at SHU. If he leaves, I hope it’s for somewhere better than VT.

[XU 87]

Dixon is garbage. I think that report is false.

Wow, ask Pitt if they wished he had stayed since all he did there was win a lot of games and go to the NCAA tourney almost every year, including two sweet 16's and an elite 8. He's also done pretty good at a once moribund TCU program.

[xavierj]

Wow, ask Pitt if they wished he had stayed since all he did there was win a lot of games and go to the NCAA tourney almost every year, including two sweet 16's and an elite 8. He's also done pretty good at a once moribund TCU program.

Again if you have not made it to the 2nd weekend in 10 years, are you really that special. He had a lot of talent this year and missed the tournament. Now a school wants to invest $12 million plus just to get him. They must need their heads examined. They can get Cronin for half that and he would win more.

[Xville]

Again if you have not made it to the 2nd weekend in 10 years, are you really that special. He had a lot of talent this year and missed the tournament. Now a school wants to invest $12 million plus just to get him. They must need their heads examined. They can get Cronin for half that and he would win more.

Do You really think Cronin would win more than dixon at UCLA, or do you just have something against dixon for some reason? Or, are you just really digging in even more to defend your opinion of dixon not being a good coach? Btw cronin has been to the 2nd weekend all of once in 16 years as a head coach.

[xubrew]

Remember when they ran Ben Howland out of town (after 3 Final Fours). Isn't Dixon the same coach without the FF's?

I hate when people use the phrase "Yes and No," but....Yes and No.

UCLA has certain people/boosters that have a lot of influence over the program. They also like the idea of having what I guess you would call privileged access to the programs. Ben Howland, from what I've been told, can be a bit of a jerk. But whether that's true or not, he made it known that he didn't care what these people thought they were entitled to and he pushed back on giving them privileged access. So, there was pressure to get rid of him despite the fact that he went to three Final Fours. Based on what they've been since then, you could argue that it was a bad move.

Dixon isn't like that. He's a lot more personable and is probably much less likely to tell rich influential donors to shove it. So he may have better luck. The guy can coach. He took over a program that was basically what Tulane is now and won an NIT, made an NCAA Tournament and finished in the Top 25, and was on the bubble and just missed making another NCAA Tournament. The Pac Twelve is rather...umm...manageable (I guess we'll call it that) right now. I wouldn't be surprised if they were noticeably better almost right away. I guess that may not be saying much considering how bad they were this past year.

[XU 87]

Again if you have not made it to the 2nd weekend in 10 years, are you really that special. He had a lot of talent this year and missed the tournament. Now a school wants to invest $12 million plus just to get him. They must need their heads examined. They can get Cronin for half that and he would win more.

Are you arguing that they should have taken Cronin over Dixon? Really?

I will also add that you called him "garbage". He went to 11 NCAA's in 13 years at Pitt, including 2 Sweet 16's and an elite 8.

I am also guessing that UCLA's top choices all turned them down. But Dixon is still a very good coach with a history of success. That said, if he doesn't win a LOT, and fast, he'll be fired, just like UCLA has fired or run off just about everyone else post Wooden.

Former post Wooden coach Gary Cunningham played and coached under Wooden. He went 50-8 in his two years in the late 70's as head UCLA coach. He liked the job so much that he left it to become AD at Western Oregon State College.

[xavierj]

Are you arguing that they should have taken Cronin over Dixon? Really?

I am also guessing that UCLA's top choices all turned them down. But Dixon is still a very good coach with a history of success. That said, if he doesn't win a LOT, and fast, he'll be fired, just like UCLA has fired or run off just about everyone else post Wooden.

My point is Mick Cronin could have done better with all of the talent Jamie Dixon had at Pitt. And people are bashing Mick because he has one sweet 16 in the last 10 years or whatever. Jamie Dixon has less over the last 10 with better talent. Nothing against Dixon and Mick is weird, but Dixon is and has been overrated in my opinion. In addition, isn’t it kind of a red flag that after going to the elite 8 he went backwards?

[Xville]

My point is Mick Cronin could have done better with all of the talent Jamie Dixon had at Pitt. And people are bashing Mick because he has one sweet 16 in the last 10 years or whatever. Jamie Dixon has less over the last 10 with better talent. Nothing against Dixon and Mick is weird, but Dixon is and has been overrated in my opinion.

Getting talent is half of the job of a college basketball coach so arguing about better talent really doesnt do your argument any favors.

[xavierj]

Getting talent is half of the job of a college basketball coach so arguing about better talent really doesnt do your argument any favors.

Do you think it’s just as easy to recruit in the AAC vs. the ACC or Big 12? Mick would reel in big time recruits at UCLA in my opinion. Don’t know how but he can recruit. He got Lance Stephenson some how to Clifton.

[scoscox]

Mick isn't a good recruiter imo. He inherited a cincinnati program that was a pretty well known name in college basketball, a jordan brand school, and in the big east. It shouldn't have been that difficult to lure big time talent. I fully expected him to recruit better than he did. He had a few five stars in lance and jermaine lawrence, but aside from that our depth of recruiting has been much better and, at this point, mick was in the big east longer than we have.

we brought in semaj christon, dez wells, kenny frease, justin martin, josh duncan, mark lyons, dee davis, jordan latham, jay canty, dante jackson, and justin cage etc. all while in the A-10. that's as many 4 stars as UC has brought in period under mick cronin in the AAC or big east. that's not a good stat

it's no doubt much easier to recruit at ucla though

[D-West & PO-Z]

Do You really think Cronin would win more than dixon at UCLA, or do you just have something against dixon for some reason? Or, are you just really digging in even more to defend your opinion of dixon not being a good coach? Btw cronin has been to the 2nd weekend all of once in 16 years as a head coach.

Yeah, if you are railing on Jamie Dixon's tourney resume, you cannot seriously then say Mick Cronin would be better. That is hilarious.

[xavierj]

Yeah, if you are railing on Jamie Dixon's tourney resume, you cannot seriously then say Mick Cronin would be better. That is hilarious.

Nope both have had weak tourney success over the last 10 years. Pitt was happy to see Dixon (at the time) move on. I am just saying if I were in charge and I had to pick between Cronin and Dixon, I would take Cronin and it wouldn’t take long to make that decision. I have always thought Dixon was overrated and felt very confident when Xavier drew them in the tournament. It also should have been Xavier going on to that 1 elite 8 Dixon has. He isn’t going to suddenly become successful again when he went down hill after reaching the elite 8 at Pitt like 12 years ago or whenever it was.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Nope both have had weak tourney success over the last 10 years. Pitt was happy to see Dixon (at the time) move on. I am just saying if I were in charge and I had to pick between Cronin and Dixon, I would take Cronin and it wouldn’t take long to make that decision. I have always thought Dixon was overrated and felt very confident when Xavier drew them in the tournament. It also should have been Xavier going on to that 1 elite 8 Dixon has. He isn’t going to suddenly become successful again when he went down hill after reaching the elite 8 at Pitt like 12 years ago or whenever it was.

Mick Cronin is horrible in the tournament. UC fans (and Mick) would die for ONE Elite 8.

[XUGRAD80]

He inherited a complete dumpster fire of a program that had missed one recruiting cycle completely and had no foundation for the next. He was able to bring it up to about the level of an average A-10 school. It hasn’t gotten much better and he continues to recruit more projects and suspects than he does actual prospects. Among my UC friends this has been a constant and consistent complaint. They simply can not understand how X continues to out recruit them year after year. And they blame Mick for this. They feel that he has no more upside, and that either because he is unable to do so, or chooses not to do so, they believe that he will never recruit at the level they feel they should be at.

[GIMMFD]

Nope both have had weak tourney success over the last 10 years. Pitt was happy to see Dixon (at the time) move on. I am just saying if I were in charge and I had to pick between Cronin and Dixon, I would take Cronin and it wouldn’t take long to make that decision. I have always thought Dixon was overrated and felt very confident when Xavier drew them in the tournament. It also should have been Xavier going on to that 1 elite 8 Dixon has. He isn’t going to suddenly become successful again when he went down hill after reaching the elite 8 at Pitt like 12 years ago or whenever it was.

Speaking as someone whom completely despises Pitt and Cincinnati, I think I'd take Dixon. He has 1 Elite 8 yes, but using a statement like "should have been Xavier going to it" doesn't change the course of history, regardless, that's still one for Dixon, and 2 sweet 16s, I think he's a much more solid recruiter than Cronin as well. I mean he has the 24th ranked class in the nation coming to TCU, I realize Cronin is at a disadvantage being in the AAC, but TCU doesn't really scream "basketball powerhouse," not to mention Dixon is 10000x more likable than Cronin. I'd rather have someone personable, and someone that shows some humility than someone always finding a place to put the blame. Dixon had a 67% winning percentage in the old Big East which was loaded with talent, for his tournament short comings, that's still pretty damn impressive.

[XUMIOH12]

rumors going around that SJU is negotiating a resignation with Mullin

[X-band '01]

One hiring now official - Jerry Stackhouse to Vandy.

[STL_XUfan]

rumors going around that SJU is negotiating a resignation with Mullin
I mean he is a bad coach, but what were they doing before he got there and turned around their recruiting? Can't you just bring in someone like Phil Martelli to actually coach and let Mullins just focus on recruiting.

[GoMuskies]

I mean he is a bad coach, but what were they doing before he got there and turned around their recruiting? Can't you just bring in someone like Phil Martelli to actually coach and let Mullins just focus on recruiting.

They can't fire him yet, but I'm pretty sure we can all stipulate that they're going to be a dumpster fire next year. May as well get the cleanup underway a year early.

[XU 87]

One hiring now official - Jerry Stackhouse to Vandy.

Stackhouse has 2 years as an NBA assistant and one year as a D League head coach, where he did win Coach of the Year and the Championship.

But still................

[D-West & PO-Z]

I mean he is a bad coach, but what were they doing before he got there and turned around their recruiting? Can't you just bring in someone like Phil Martelli to actually coach and let Mullins just focus on recruiting.

I mean what does recruiting matter when your coach cant coach his way out of a paper bag? I mean that man is an embarrassment in those inside the huddle segments. One time all the did the entire time was tie his shoes, then clapped at the end. It is a crime they finished under .500 in the BE this year.

[xavierj]

I mean what does recruiting matter when your coach cant coach his way out of a paper bag? I mean that man is an embarrassment in those inside the huddle segments. One time all the did the entire time was tie his shoes, then clapped at the end. It is a crime they finished under .500 in the BE this year.

How much talent did he really have? Any sure fire NBA guys? I know they were not deep and didn’t appear to have any inside presence. Just curious as to the true talent level that people think he had.

[94GRAD]

Bobby Hurley rumored to replace him!

[GoMuskies]

Apparently I fell asleep and missed like a three or four hour thing when Arkansas fans thought they were hiring Gregg Marshall. Then someone told Gregg Marshall about it and it was over.

[JTG]

Stackhouse has 2 years as an NBA assistant and one year as a D League head coach, where he did win Coach of the Year and the Championship.

But still................

That's the best Vandy could do ? Are there no coaches on the market this year ?

[JTG]

How much talent did he really have? Any sure fire NBA guys? I know they were not deep and didn’t appear to have any inside presence. Just curious as to the true talent level that people think he had.

Talent wise Shamorie Ponds was probably 2nd only to Howard in the BE.

[scoscox]

I mean he is a bad coach, but what were they doing before he got there and turned around their recruiting? Can't you just bring in someone like Phil Martelli to actually coach and let Mullins just focus on recruiting.

mullin turned their recruiting around? he's brought in shamorie ponds and basically no one else outside of a few solid transfers that he apparently had nothing to do with.

lavin recruited much better.

https://247sports.com/college/saint-johns/Season/2019-Basketball/Commits/

8 of their top ten commits in the 247 era are lavin recruits, with ponds being the only mullin recruit

[X-band '01]

The coach responsible for their recruiting moved on to Nebraska. That's another reason why Mullin may be toast.

Oh, and Dixon is now out of the running at UCLA. Apparently the Bruins don't want to pay TCU the buyout money.

[Muskie]

UCLA - wow.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[GoMuskies]

That's awkward for TCU, too.

[Xville]

Well, at least UCLA isnt st. John's so they got that going for them. St John's needs to rid themselves of Mullin quickly before it turns into such a dumpster fire, that it's hard to recover from.

[XU 87]

Cronin is now reported as the UCLA favorite.

[Xavgrad08]

The UCLA coaching search is embarrassing. The job has been open since December. They offer Calipari less per year than he was making and thought that they could land him. Now they will not pay the TCU buyout. Did they not research which candidates had buyouts and what they were? Looks embarrassing from the outside.

[GIMMFD]

Bobby Hurley rumored to replace him!
Would be a great hire for St. John's if true, first two years were a bit rough at Arizona State for him, but the last two were pretty decent. It's a lot easier to win in the Pac 12 than the Big East, but with his own and family ties to the New York/New Jersey area, I think he'd do great recruiting there, would be funny to see two former Duke PG's battling it out each other in coaching, that's for sure. I do think Hurley has a higher ceiling than Wojo coaching wise however.


The UCLA coaching search is embarrassing. The job has been open since December. They offer Calipari less per year than he was making and thought that they could land him. Now they will not pay the TCU buyout. Did they not research which candidates had buyouts and what they were? Looks embarrassing from the outside.

I have no idea how they royally screwed it up so bad, but holy crap they screwed it up bad. They have the resources to easily pay the buyout so now they just look like complete idiots. Their AD put himself in a bind, because once you announce the next hire, it's basically going to seem like your Plan C no matter who it is.

[XUGRAD80]

From what I’ve read elsewhere, UCLA is not the top tier job it once was. The facilities are not on a par with the top programs in the country, the fan support is nowhere near what it once was, and the alumni “support” is no longer there. Definitely, the PAC 10 is not what it once was, no matter what Mr. Walmart says.

Not to cast aspersions on any particular person....but there are many well substantiated reports that the recruiting practices at that university would not stand up well to investigation, especially during the time of the Wooden era. Alumni were very influential in getting some of the very well known players from around the country to attend “Western University”. The movie Blue Chips had some basis in truth and reality from reports I’ve read on some of the major news outlets, and from books I’ve read.

[MITTENMUSKIE16]

word going around on twitter from Tennessee reporters that Rick Barnes is going to make a substantial offer to Jonas Hayes to become his associate HC. This is, really, not good news for X for a variety of reasons. Especially if it affects Odom's commitment.

[X-band '01]

That's because his former top assistant Rob Lanier became the new head coach at Georgia State.

[MITTENMUSKIE16]

That's because his former top assistant Rob Lanier became the new head coach at Georgia State.

aware, just didn't seem pertinent to our situation. Would be a pretty good spot for Jonas to be in, but man, I hope we don't lose him so quickly.

[X-band '01]

Meanwhile, Kevin Willard pulled himself out of the running at Virginia Tech.

[X-band '01]

rumors going around that SJU is negotiating a resignation with Mullin

Scratch that rumor. St. John's released a statement saying that Mullin is still head coach and no search for one is forthcoming. Note that they did NOT extend his contract (for now).

[xudash]

Meanwhile, Kevin Willard pulled himself out of the running at Virginia Tech.

Good.

[scoscox]

word going around on twitter from Tennessee reporters that Rick Barnes is going to make a substantial offer to Jonas Hayes to become his associate HC. This is, really, not good news for X for a variety of reasons. Especially if it affects Odom's commitment.

i don't see why jonas would take that unless they really opened up the checkbook. tennessee loses a ton and we will be pretty good next year with daniel ramsey, his recruit. and from what i've heard we're paying he and ben johnson a pretty penny already for assistants

[BandAid]

i don't see why jonas would take that unless they really opened up the checkbook. tennessee loses a ton and we will be pretty good next year with daniel ramsey, his recruit. and from what i've heard we're paying he and ben johnson a pretty penny already for assistants

Is Jonas associate here? That’s a big step up. Barnes isn’t exactly a spring chicken like Steele either

[MITTENMUSKIE16]

From what I hear it’s a pretty substantial raise, unfortunately. I really have no idea what Jonas’s trajectory/timetable is right now, but it seems like a good offer. Hopefully we can make it worth him to stay, though.

[scoscox]

Is Jonas associate here? That’s a big step up. Barnes isn’t exactly a spring chicken like Steele either

no. but barnes isn't about to retire anytime soon and i think jonas is gonna want to take a head coaching job in the next few years, maybe even this year.

[X-band '01]

There are also conflicting reports on Ryan Odom - there's a reporter from the Washington Post who thinks he'll be announced at 6 PM tonight by Virginia Tech as their next head coach. The UMBC student newspaper and the Baltimore Sun are denying that report.

[scoscox]

From what I hear it’s a pretty substantial raise, unfortunately. I really have no idea what Jonas’s trajectory/timetable is right now, but it seems like a good offer. Hopefully we can make it worth him to stay, though.

what is your source? how much of a substantial raise can he really get unless they pay him head coach money? i'm more worried about him taking kennesaw state or something like that.

[94GRAD]

what is your source? how much of a substantial raise can he really get unless they pay him head coach money? i'm more worried about him taking kennesaw state or something like that.

Tennessee boards say Rob Lanier made $425k last year

[MITTENMUSKIE16]

Jonas made just north of 200k at UGA. Assuming he makes something like 250-300 at X. I’d put his offer for Associate HC at Tennessee at 500k.

[XU 87]

Tough to turn down a job doubling your salary.

[Xavgrad08]

Jeff Goodman is reporting Virginia Tech as going to hire Mike Young from wofford.

[X-band '01]

One of Mick Cronin's high-leverage positions just went off the table.

Another high-profile hiring was Eric Musselman taking the Arkansas job after all. He had supposedly turned down the job earlier last week, but his hiring now official.

[scoscox]

Tough to turn down a job doubling your salary.

i hope we pony up to keep him. he did great things with tyrique and hankins this year and his recruiting has been great obviously

[scoscox]

Wojo and Willard stay put after that VT speculation. Buzz to VT confirmed as a fluke hire

[XU 87]

i hope we pony up to keep him. he did great things with tyrique and hankins this year and his recruiting has been great obviously

I don't think X is going to pay $500,000 for an assistant basketball coach, and I don't blame them for not doing so.

[scoscox]

well i didn't necessarily mean we should match the offer, but maybe a slight raise to keep him around wouldn't be out of line

[MITTENMUSKIE16]

I don't think X is going to pay $500,000 for an assistant basketball coach, and I don't blame them for not doing so.

If we want to get to that final 2% that keeps being mentioned, we might want to start considering it- at least to someone who might start carrying the associate HC title. Stability these next 2-3 years will be key to growing the brand toward the next step. Jonas is clearly a great recruiter. I’d hate to lose him to anything but a HC’ing gig.

[Xavgrad08]

Well this could have an effect on Hayes to Tennessee. Barnes a candidate at UCLA. https://amp.knoxnews.com/amp/3396332002

[paulxu]

Bitter sweet in Spartanburg over Mike Young's going to VT.
Good for him. Tough for the Terriers.

[XU 87]

Cronin to Wofford?

[scoscox]

Well this could have an effect on Hayes to Tennessee. Barnes a candidate at UCLA. https://amp.knoxnews.com/amp/3396332002

that'd be a pretty good hire for them considering how this search has played out

[D-West & PO-Z]

Tough to turn down a job doubling your salary.

Everyone just needs to make sure to wish his family members happy birthday on twitter to show the Muskie love!

[JTG]

Ace Georgia area recruiter to Tenn,probably a good move for both parties. To West Coast, not so much.

[paulxu]

Cronin to Wofford?

Isn't the AD at VT formerly Mick's boss at UC?

And he hired Mike Young. Message there someplace.

[xavierj]

Isn't the AD at VT formerly Mick's boss at UC?

And he hired Mike Young. Message there someplace.

Maybe. I know some people that know Mick and they said he would take UCLA but not Virginia Tech. To be honest I am not sure the VT hire was a great one. Mike Young has done very well at Wofford but has never had to recruit at the level he will have to. Time will tell.

[scoscox]

yea it's whit babcock who hired mick. mick apparently referred buzz to him last time and willard this time

[xavierj]

Mick Cronin will be the next UCLA coach in my opinion.

[MITTENMUSKIE16]

Now SJU has changed course, and Mullin is supposed to be stepping down sometime this week. Don’t get why they released the opposite statement a couple days ago. Rothstein reporting that signs point toward Bobby Hurley.

[Xville]

Now SJU has changed course, and Mullin is supposed to be stepping down sometime this week. Don’t get why they released the opposite statement a couple days ago. Rothstein reporting that signs point toward Bobby Hurley.

Good...one bad coach out of the big east. 3-4 more improvements are needed across the board in my opinion, but this would be a great start.

.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Now SJU has changed course, and Mullin is supposed to be stepping down sometime this week. Don’t get why they released the opposite statement a couple days ago. Rothstein reporting that signs point toward Bobby Hurley.

That would be great.

[X-band '01]

Not surprisingly, Rick Barnes staying at Tennessee.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Not surprisingly, Rick Barnes staying at Tennessee.

Woulda been better for us if he went I think.

Mick might actually get a look there now. And Jonas Hayes still a candidate at Tenn probably.

[Xavgrad08]

UCLA is causing a lot of coaches to get extensions/new contracts.

[X-band '01]

I think the 2019 Wooden Legacy should only be open to programs who used UCLA to obtain said extensions.

[sirthought]

If we want to get to that final 2% that keeps being mentioned, we might want to start considering it- at least to someone who might start carrying the associate HC title. Stability these next 2-3 years will be key to growing the brand toward the next step. Jonas is clearly a great recruiter. I’d hate to lose him to anything but a HC’ing gig.

There is no way a school the size of Xavier should be paying an assistant $500K. They've clearly had success with coaches earning much less, and frankly it's not a job that merits that kind of salary. It's coaching basketball and recruiting. A lot of talented people would do it for $50K. I have nothing against the guy. He may be really good. Time will tell if he's a really great recruiter, but since he was formerly at a major state university it wouldn't surprise me that top high school players were giving him the time of day. These kids were already on his radar because they thought UGA was worth looking at. XU was fortunate that some of them decided Xavier was worth coming to partially due to his established relationships. Moving forward, those connections may or may not be the same.

I hope he stays, but not if they keep needing to raise the overhead on the program.

[xucub]

Can anyone explain how Leito is keeping his job at Depaul? Perennial bottom dweller in one of the BE largest markets and a hotbed for recruiting!! Do they really just not care?

[GoMuskies]

Can anyone explain how Leito is keeping his job at Depaul? Perennial bottom dweller in one of the BE largest markets and a hotbed for recruiting!! Do they really just not care?

These are the CBI runners-up you're talking about!

I thought he did enough this year to save his job. But he needs to have another pretty good season next year. Doesn't seem likely to me that Strus is going to graduate and they're going to get BETTER.

[Juice]

Can anyone explain how Leito is keeping his job at Depaul? Perennial bottom dweller in one of the BE largest markets and a hotbed for recruiting!! Do they really just not care?

I can't explain it but they do have a good recruiting class coming in. So maybe that's it?
https://247sports.com/college/depaul/Season/2019-Basketball/Commits/

[Xville]

Yeah that class plus gordon (who if they can control his attitude is a great player) should be able to make moves in the big east. If they can improve to at least a middle of the big east team for a few years, Chicago kids will start actually considering them and the program can rise from the ashes.

[JTG]

There is no way a school the size of Xavier should be paying an assistant $500K. They've clearly had success with coaches earning much less, and frankly it's not a job that merits that kind of salary. It's coaching basketball and recruiting. A lot of talented people would do it for $50K. I have nothing against the guy. He may be really good. Time will tell if he's a really great recruiter, but since he was formerly at a major state university it wouldn't surprise me that top high school players were giving him the time of day. These kids were already on his radar because they thought UGA was worth looking at. XU was fortunate that some of them decided Xavier was worth coming to partially due to his established relationships. Moving forward, those connections may or may not be the same.

I hope he stays, but not if they keep needing to raise the overhead on the program.

The program according to the WSJ is worth $61mil. Would you like us to go back to Schmidt and the MCC ? It's called big boy basketball.

[MITTENMUSKIE16]

Size of school is irrelevant to the conversation. Like JTG said, the Wall Street journal rates us as the 38th highest valued basketball program. We don’t have the revenue of a football school, sure, but we also don’t have the costs of one either. Xavier’s grand plan involves upping enrollment moderately and becoming more exclusive (and thus, desirable). The men’s basketball program is a large part of that driving force. I’m not saying every top assistant X gets deserved to be paid that, but they need to start being able to make that decision if they deem it worth it. You keep the money machine rolling by making smart investments and seeing ROI grow. If/when Steele gets us to the F4 and beyond, the university will hopefully be willing to make the investment to keep him and the staff he needs.

[Xville]

There is a difference I think between paying assistants what they are worth vs shelling out 500k for an assistant who has been on staff for a year. It was hard for me to find recent numbers, but I'm pretty sure 500k would put hayes in the top 10 of highest assistant basketball coach pay in the country.

[Masterofreality]

Can anyone explain how Leito is keeping his job at Depaul? Perennial bottom dweller in one of the BE largest markets and a hotbed for recruiting!! Do they really just not care?

Because their AD Jean Ponsetto is an idiot- kinda like Fordham's. Two peas in a pod. AD's at the biggest private schools in two big cities, and can't get out of their own way.

[Masterofreality]

UCLA is causing a lot of coaches to get extensions/new contracts.

Except for the Yellow Toothed Gnome. (Thanks SurfXU)
Mickey only has 2 years left on his deal- not really enough to make recruits feel comfortable. Interesting that SucKS doesn't seem to know which way to go here. They're not gonna be bailed out by some other school taking him off their hands like udump was with Brian Gregory, so they need to decide if they're gonna continue to settle for boring mediocrity- at over $2.3 million/year, or go in a different direction after being stuck with Mickey for 2 more years. Hell, VA Tech and Sippin' Mick's old Athletic Director, went to WOFFORD, before they would ever touch the Gnome. UCLA will probably just wait for Luke Walton at this rate- after he's fired by the Lakers, which will happen.
Mickey Mouse's attempts to leverage the Borecat admins into giving him a fat raise is hilarious, and they obviously aren't falling for it.

[MITTENMUSKIE16]

There is a difference I think between paying assistants what they are worth vs shelling out 500k for an assistant who has been on staff for a year. It was hard for me to find recent numbers, but I'm pretty sure 500k would put hayes in the top 10 of highest assistant basketball coach pay in the country.

Absolutely, and all I could find was that Jonas made 210 at UGA. So assuming that he at or above 225 right now. Insiders reporting that Tennessee offer starts with a 4. X will never be a top 10 program, but they should absolutely be right there in the 14-20 range- from performance, facilities, recruiting, pay, everything. That is the university’s goal and I think they’ll do what they have to, within reason, to make that continue.

[XU 87]

The program according to the WSJ is worth $61mil. Would you like us to go back to Schmidt and the MCC ? It's called big boy basketball.

Just increase your donation by about $200,000 per year and we can keep Hayes.

[X-band '01]

Jon Rothstein now reporting that Mick Cronin to UCLA is a done deal.

[Lloyd Braun]

This makes me sad. Hate to see him go.

[Xville]

Jon Rothstein now reporting that Mick Cronin to UCLA is a done deal.

What an awful fit....nothing like being the fifth choice.

Will be very interesting to see who uc can get

[JTG]

UCLA basketball you have just entered The Twilight Zone.
Mick in LA is about as crazy as a whore in a convent.

[surfxu]

Goodbye Yellow Toothed Gnome!!! Wow... just wow... that's all I can say. SucKS is happy to get rid of him and UCLA has proven they are idiots.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Damn, what a shame. He was perfect at UC. Easy to hate, rarely beat XU.

X opponents just lost two coaches we dominate, Mullin and Cronin.