Remaining Scholarship candidates

[X-Expert]

I had heard the Steele was considering a wing/guard and a big for next year. He had said he could see him getting an incoming Fr, grad transfer, and a sit out transfer. Here is who i knew they were looking at within the last month but not sure where they stand:

Zach Harvey-visited X as other schools. He is from Kansas who were recruiting him. Also likes Gonzaga. Had heard they both have slowed on their recruiting of him.
Ben Roderick-has 2 mid-major offers but also has heard from Ohio State and X. His dream is Ohio State but they only have one scholarship left and may use on a big.
Sean McNeil-JUCO out of Sinclair in Dayton. Leading D2 scorer in the country. Has 2 unofficial visits at X games (Detroit and Villanova). X hasn't offered but many have including WVU, Dayton. OKLA St., Texas Tech and many others. Seems like X stopped or slowed down the recruiting.
Harlond Beverly-X was big in the mix here but seems to have really slowed down.
Myron Gardner-at one point was 100% for X but i believe X has stopped recruiting. Looks like he is looking at UC

not sure of any potential grad transfers. X did reach out to Justin Pierce from William & Mary. any more info please advise. X really needs a good big (i.e. hankins) who has some length to him. I believe Miles may redshirt.

[slysyl]

Need a big; possibly a top notch grad transfer all mister everything.

[Xuperman]

McNeil is 2 years removed from playing High School ball for Cooper in Ky. They lost in the 2017 state championship game. I believe McNeil first went to TMC but did not play basketball......chose golf instead. He then went to Sinclair and ended up being the JUCO top scorer not D2. I guess you could call it D3. He is 6'4" with some D1 offers but I don't think he would be a good fit at X.

Just for laughs, former recruit Kentrevious Jones is available. If he wasn't such a knucklehead we could use him....gonna need someone like that to go up against Yurtseven and Georgetown!!

[X-Expert]

He has more than a few D1 offers and mostly from Big 5 powers:

West Virginia Providence
Texas Tech TCU
Missouri Kansas St
Oklahoma St Ole Miss
Oregon Colorado St
Pittsburgh Dayton
Minnesota Western KY
Evansville James Madison
Toledo Lipscomb
UNC Asheville

All the mid-majors were offered early on and the scholarship offers from the power 5 came in last couple of months. Indiana and Ohio State are also looking right now along with X. Not sure if fit for X or not but many others are seeing value here. The fact that he can shoot will make him a priority. Heard X is really hopeful for Harvey which is why i believe he hasn't been offered. He visited Cintas in Dec and Feb

[MITTENMUSKIE16]

As far as an incoming freshman, I think the only two candidates left are Harvey and Roderick. Think if Harvey doesn’t commit by April(ish) we offer Roderick, who I’ve heard is a good fit for the roster.


Like others have said before, I think we need to add a grad transfer big. I really like Fremantle, but he probably won’t be ready to play against and guard D1 5s. It is crazy how successful we have been lately with Kanter and Hankins, and I’m hopeful there’s another big out there waiting.

[kellernr]

Is there interest in James Bolden from West Virginia? I looked him up and the crytal ball has him 75% X and 25% Butler.

[XUGRAD80]

Is there interest in James Bolden from West Virginia? I looked him up and the crytal ball has him 75% X and 25% Butler.

He is an experienced point guard, and not an experienced interior player, but I do think that he would be an asset and hope that he does end up at X.

[bleedXblue]

Is there interest in James Bolden from West Virginia? I looked him up and the crytal ball has him 75% X and 25% Butler.

why would we be adding another PG? We have Q, KyKy and then Odom coming in 2020

[kellernr]

why would we be adding another PG? We have Q, KyKy and then Odom coming in 2020

i think he would be a 1 year guy. Coming from a huggins team you know he knows how to play defense.

[bleedXblue]

i think he would be a 1 year guy. Coming from a huggins team you know he knows how to play defense.

I just see much bigger needs.........we need post help and more shooters

[XUGRAD80]

why would we be adding another PG? We have Q, KyKy and then Odom coming in 2020

1 year player as a grad transfer that offers ball handling ability that the current guards don’t have and experience that the freshman don’t have. He averaged 12 pts. a game, so can also score a little bit. Will agree that there are greater needs, but that doesn’t mean that a) there are players out there that will fill those needs or b) that X can land those players if there are.

[usfldan]

McNeil is 2 years removed from playing High School ball for Cooper in Ky. They lost in the 2017 state championship game. I believe McNeil first went to TMC but did not play basketball......chose golf instead. He then went to Sinclair and ended up being the JUCO top scorer not D2. I guess you could call it D3. He is 6'4" with some D1 offers but I don't think he would be a good fit at X.

Just for laughs, former recruit Kentrevious Jones is available. If he wasn't such a knucklehead we could use him....gonna need someone like that to go up against Yurtseven and Georgetown!!

Sean McNeil tweeted he has narrowed his search to six teams. Xavier is not one of them.

https://twitter.com/SeanMcNeil22/status/1108401568037175297

[D-West & PO-Z]

1 year player as a grad transfer that offers ball handling ability that the current guards don’t have and experience that the freshman don’t have. He averaged 12 pts. a game, so can also score a little bit. Will agree that there are greater needs, but that doesn’t mean that a) there are players out there that will fill those needs or b) that X can land those players if there are.

Can he shoot? If so I will take him.

[throwbackmuskie]

Jason Carter out of Ohio U? 6'9 big man, best player for the Bobcats.

[XUGRAD80]

Kid from Sinclair isn’t coming to X but there are some good shooters still looking for homes.

[XU3232]

Jason Carter out of Ohio U? 6'9 big man, best player for the Bobcats.

He's EXACTLY what X needs... I think X has a good shot at getting him too.

[Xville]

Is Carter a regular transfer or a grad transfer? X could probably use him either way, but if he is a regular transfer, I'd still like to see a grad transfer big in addition to him.

[xavierj]

Is Carter a regular transfer or a grad transfer? X could probably use him either way, but if he is a regular transfer, I'd still like to see a grad transfer big in addition to him.

He is a grad transfer and can play next year but will still have two years of eligibility left to play.

[Xville]

He is a grad transfer and can play next year but will still have two years of eligibility left to play.

That's the best kind of transfer....man let's grab this guy!

[MHettel]

That's the best kind of transfer....man let's grab this guy!

We should pay TOP DOLLAR for that guy

[xu82]

We should pay TOP DOLLAR for that guy

Should we throw in some hookers??? Seal the deal.....

[UCGRAD4X]

Don't forget the booze and the swag!

[XUGRAD80]

Pat Andree from Lehigh has heard from X

Jr Grad transfer with 1 year remaining

Averaged 13 pts and 6 rpg

6’8 and 220 lbs

[Lloyd Braun]

Jason Carter... nice

[bleedXblue]

Boom!

[Michigan Muskie]

Does Carter have to sit one year before he plays out his final two years of eligibility? He's already missed a full season as a medical redshirt.

[bobbiemcgee]

Pat Andree from Lehigh has heard from X

Jr Grad transfer with 1 year remaining

Averaged 13 pts and 6 rpg

6’8 and 220 lbs


Jason Carter... nice

Steele making calls from the plane home!

[MITTENMUSKIE16]

Steele making calls from the plane home!

Guess that’s what can happen when you charter instead of flying commercial.

[xavierj]

Does Carter have to sit one year before he plays out his final two years of eligibility? He's already missed a full season as a medical redshirt.

Able to play right away.

[X-band '01]

Does Carter have to sit one year before he plays out his final two years of eligibility? He's already missed a full season as a medical redshirt.

He's actually scheduled to graduate from OU, so he may actually be a grad transfer eligible right off the bat. This would be great if true.

[XUGRAD80]

Could be a huge pickup.....eligible right away and still has 2 years of eligibility.

[noteggs]

Does Carter have to sit one year before he plays out his final two years of eligibility? He's already missed a full season as a medical redshirt.

Like you said already had redshirt year but expected to graduate this summer. So he’ll be able to play immediately in August sometime with two years eligibility. Unfortunately will probably miss some practice and Europe trip

[XUGRAD80]

With Carter, X will have the following classes

2 seniors
4 juniors
2 sophomores
5 freshman

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[kellernr]

With Carter, X will have the following classes

2 seniors
4 juniors
2 sophomores
5 freshman

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[Xuperman]

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I am thinking James comes ready to compete as a Musketeer in the fall. He looked fantastic in the Madness scrimmage and obviously is a well put together individual. The only thing that makes sense is that he didn't do what was necessary to EARN minutes. Whether that be effort in practice and/or problems with the system. Could also be classroom issues.

What ever the reason, here's to hoping it gets resolved and he becomes a solid player.....otherwise we're looking at another patchwork senior class in 3 years.

[Muskie]

Cross-Post:

Remember when we had a rule about not mentioning rumors about transfers out of the program or flat out stating someone should transfer or is likely to transfer? Those were the days... oh wait. We still have that rule.

This isn't a video game. These are real people. Try to be considerate.

When I last spoke with Greg Christopher he emphasized that players, recruits, and their families read these boards and social media. What you post matters, which is why we've long had this rule in place. It will be enforced. If and when someone has something to announce, that player and his family will choose how to do it.

*** Addressing some points from several PM's. Try inserting "if someone transfers" or "someone is likely to transfer" in place of "If Player A transfers" or "Player B is likely to transfer" and 99% of the posts are unaffected.

[Muskie4106]

Cross-Post:

Remember when we had a rule about not mentioning rumors about transfers out of the program or flat out stating someone should transfer or is likely to transfer? Those were the days... oh wait. We still have that rule.

This isn't a video game. These are real people. Try to be considerate.

When I last spoke with Greg Christopher he emphasized that players, recruits, and their families read these boards and social media. What you post matters, which is why we've long had this rule in place. It will be enforced. If and when someone has something to announce, that player and his family will choose how to do it.

A "effin" men

[X-man]

I am thinking James comes ready to compete as a Musketeer in the fall. He looked fantastic in the Madness scrimmage and obviously is a well put together individual. The only thing that makes sense is that he didn't do what was necessary to EARN minutes. Whether that be effort in practice and/or problems with the system. Could also be classroom issues.

What ever the reason, here's to hoping it gets resolved and he becomes a solid player.....otherwise we're looking at another patchwork senior class in 3 years.
I saw James at a practice last fall, and he looked so good that I thought he might see more PT than any of the other reserves. He has a BE body, and a sweet shooting stroke. I don't know what his issue was that kept him on the bench, but I hope it got resolved so he can contribute the way I believe he can next season.

[X-band '01]

This isn't a video game. These are real people. Try to be considerate.



If this were a video game, everyone would have hit either the Power or Reset button back in early February after the DePaul loss.

[Xuperman]

I wonder if this means the Andree is no longer an option. On paper they seem like the same type player....both in size and production.

[Xuperman]

I saw James at a practice last fall, and he looked so good that I thought he might see more PT than any of the other reserves. He has a BE body, and a sweet shooting stroke. I don't know what his issue was that kept him on the bench, but I hope it got resolved so he can contribute the way I believe he can next season.

Nice to hear some affirmation on DJ. Those who were at MM have to be perplexed on the lack of PT this year because dude put on quite a show. Especially his energy and touch from distance. I thought he was the most impressive guy on the night with 12/13 points (3 3’s?).....quick trigger and good form on his 3 ball with a nice high release. Seemed to run the floor like a natural and looked VERY comfortable with speed and flow. He is gonna surprise some people!

[JTG]

Nice to hear some affirmation on DJ. Those who were at MM have to be perplexed on the lack of PT this year because dude put on quite a show. Especially his energy and touch from distance. I thought he was the most impressive guy on the night with 12/13 points (3 3’s?).....quick trigger and good form on his 3 ball with a nice high release. Seemed to run the floor like a natural and looked VERY comfortable with speed and flow. He is gonna surprise some people!

There is another thread bemoaning the packline D on here. Maybe it's that defense that causes our frosh to ride the bench. Play something simple, and do it well. Not a defense with your center 20 feet from the basket half the time. I think its a huge issue for new players. The 3 transfers spent the first 20 games trying to figure it out.

[XU_Lou]

With the introduction of Jason Carter to the line-up yesterday, I thought I would take a stab at the allocation of minutes next year. The newcomer minutes are pure speculation based on what I've read about these players - so obviously we'll (fans) need to see how ready these guys really are come November. IMHO, I believe that Q, Naji and maybe even Scruggs minutes need to come down a little so that they will be more effective while they're on the court - especially down the stretch of each game. That's just my opinion. Here's what I have in terms of minutes at each position:

1) Q - 25 | KyKy - 15

2) Scruggs - 20 | Q - 5 | Bishop - 15

3) Naji - 25 | Scruggs - 10 | Other (KK, Elias) - 5

4) Carter - 20 | Naji - 7 | Zach - 13

5) Ty - 28 | Zach - 2 | Other (Miles, Ramsey, James) - 10

* Caveat - the combo of Miles, Ramsey, James and even Zach is fluid between the 4 and 5 positions.

Q1) There has been talk on this board that we may want to bring in a SF/Wing. Unless he is a total stud, is there really any room on the roster for him to play next year based on what we already have?

Q2) Do you see any issues with Scruggs and Naji playing out of there natural/normal positions? They are mostly 2 and 3s, respectively, but if are to give Kyky and Bishop relatively significant minutes, the two future juniors will need to play some minutes at the 3 and 4.

Thoughts??

[markchal]

that minute allocation is selling Harden way short. I think he'll play sixth man minutes for us next year. He's a pretty capable defender and with more confidence, should be a decent offensive option. I could easily see him getting 20 minutes a game. I strongly doubt the frosh will have any significant impact. Possibly Tandy, but he won't be getting 15 minutes a game. It takes freshmen awhile to get used to the speed of the college game and learn our systems. Scruggs was a top-30 recruit and still was something like 8th in the rotation last year.

I still would expect Naji, Scruggs, and Q to all be around the 35 min/game average.

[Olsingledigit]

Did anyone else notice that once the BE coaches scouted Harden that every team would immediately double team him when he went into the game and he often turned it over right away.

[xukeith]

that minute allocation is selling Harden way short. I think he'll play sixth man minutes for us next year. He's a pretty capable defender and with more confidence, should be a decent offensive option. I could easily see him getting 20 minutes a game. I strongly doubt the frosh will have any significant impact. Possibly Tandy, but he won't be getting 15 minutes a game. It takes freshmen awhile to get used to the speed of the college game and learn our systems. Scruggs was a top-30 recruit and still was something like 8th in the rotation last year.

I still would expect Naji, Scruggs, and Q to all be around the 35 min/game average.

No way KyKy gets 15 minutes and sits Q in his senior year.
Q will generally play 30-35 minutes. Tandy is a scoring guard so he will probably learn the 2 position and Scruggs spell Q. We shall see....

[94GRAD]

No way KyKy gets 15 minutes and sits Q in his senior year.
Q will generally play 30-35 minutes. Tandy is a scoring guard so he will probably learn the 2 position and Scruggs spell Q. We shall see....

They will move Scruggs to the point thus giving KyKy his 15mins

[XU_Lou]

No way KyKy gets 15 minutes and sits Q in his senior year.
Q will generally play 30-35 minutes. Tandy is a scoring guard so he will probably learn the 2 position and Scruggs spell Q. We shall see....

Well, I do have Q playing 5 minutes at the 2, giving him a total of 30 minutes per game.

[IM4X]

If Kyky plays anywhere close to the level we’ve seen from HS, I can easily see him get 12- 15 minutes. Q can still get his starter’s share of 28-33 a game with Kyky playing a little of his 12-15 at the two.

[X-Expert]

i still believe X will still be bringing in a wing-either Zach Harvey or Ben Roderick but with the current team that you have here, i would be a little concerned next year. I think the returning starters will all be better but shooting will still be a major issue. Goodin and Naji were very good last year because Bluitt, Gates, Kanter, and Macura spread the floor so much. Carter improved from 20-34% from 3 but he didn't take a huge number that will make defenses come out to have to guard him. I certainly hope that Tandy/Bishop/Harden get more minutes and make shots because based on your numbers, i see improvement but the shooting will be much of the same. Hope i'm wrong-wouldst be the first time

[XUGRAD80]

Let me be ther first to say “they will earn their minutes in practice”. :clap:


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[xufan2020]

i still believe X will still be bringing in a wing-either Zach Harvey or Ben Roderick but with the current team that you have here, i would be a little concerned next year. I think the returning starters will all be better but shooting will still be a major issue. Goodin and Naji were very good last year because Bluitt, Gates, Kanter, and Macura spread the floor so much. Carter improved from 20-34% from 3 but he didn't take a huge number that will make defenses come out to have to guard him. I certainly hope that Tandy/Bishop/Harden get more minutes and make shots because based on your numbers, i see improvement but the shooting will be much of the same. Hope i'm wrong-wouldst be the first time
I share your concerns about our (improved?) shooting next year. I just look at it like this. Between Tandy, Bishop, Carter, and Harden TWO of those four should be able to be adequate outside shooters. This would give X one additional shooter next year compared to this year, having lost Welage.
Then I expect Goodin and Marshal to have overall better 3pt% next year because each of them had a 10 game stretch this year where they shot 40% from 3. With all that (and I don’t think that’s being too optimistic) X should be a better shooting team next year.

[X-Expert]

Great points and agree with that assessment. I am hopeful that Jones plays as well as he has the last month as well.

[UCGRAD4X]

If the aforementioned outside shooting improves, it will give Tyrique more freedom to operate.

[Xavgrad08]

According to Evan Daniels Twitter Xavier has reached out to Akron grad transfer Daniel Utomi. He is a 6’6 and averaged 14.2 pts per game. He has also heard from North Carolina, Virginia, Iowa and some others. He played for John Groce who is related to Steele.

[D-West & PO-Z]

According to Evan Daniels Twitter Xavier has reached out to Akron grad transfer Daniel Utomi. He is a 6’6 and averaged 14.2 pts per game. He has also heard from North Carolina, Virginia, Iowa and some others. He played for John Groce who is related to Steele.

Most importantly he appears to be a pretty solid 3 point shooter. Shot 40% two years ago. 37.3% last year.

[xufan2020]

Still going after guys for this coming season? Utomi seems great and all, but what about the incoming freshman? I just feel like he would eat away more minutes from what I would think is the likely 10 man rotation: Q, Scruggs, Eli, Naji, Tyrique, Carter, Tandy, Bishop, Freemantle, and Ramsey

[D-West & PO-Z]

Still going after guys for this coming season? Utomi seems great and all, but what about the incoming freshman? I just feel like he would eat away more minutes from what I would think is the likely 10 man rotation: Q, Scruggs, Eli, Naji, Tyrique, Carter, Tandy, Bishop, Freemantle, and Ramsey

I think the chance of all 5 freshman getting any significant playing time is unlikely. I think 3/5 getting sig mins is far more likely than 5. 3/5 more likely than 4/5 to me as well.

[XUGRAD80]

It’s going to be hard to find enough minutes to keep everyone happy, BUT.....won’t it be nice to not have to have Naji and Q playing 38-40 minutes every game?

[noteggs]

Honestly, we can’t keep all happy. Winning cures all! Sure Steele is preaching this as he should.

[sirthought]

Still going after guys for this coming season? Utomi seems great and all, but what about the incoming freshman? I just feel like he would eat away more minutes from what I would think is the likely 10 man rotation: Q, Scruggs, Eli, Naji, Tyrique, Carter, Tandy, Bishop, Freemantle, and Ramsey

What the heck kind of question is this? The team can have up to 13 scholarship players, so why wouldn't the coaches try to fill that number with the best players they can find? Do you want them just to be thin one man, where injury or other issues could just leave them hanging? Gosh, he'd just be on the team one year.

All 13 have the opportunity to earn playing time and contribute. Those freshmen look great—seriously great looking class—but they haven't proved squat in college yet. The SF wing spot is our weakest spot. Here's a four year kid (he redshirted one year) who has produced at the D1 level and could play right away. He won't start, probably. As we saw with our three grad transfers this year, their status doesn't mean they'll take all the minutes, but they do offer a good option for some experience on the floor.

I'm hoping they look at the best possible grad transfers every year over playing a frosh who is still learning where to stand and how to play hard. It shouldn't mess with the progression of a four year player if that kid is working hard and doing what his coach asks him to.

[IM4X]

Still going after guys for this coming season? Utomi seems great and all, but what about the incoming freshman? I just feel like he would eat away more minutes from what I would think is the likely 10 man rotation: Q, Scruggs, Eli, Naji, Tyrique, Carter, Tandy, Bishop, Freemantle, and Ramsey

I know some are thinking Miles might redshirt, but personally, I hope he plays right away. I want to see at least one really tall and disruptive shot blocker available in the rotation. I just see where that might really help the team out with certain matchups. Hankins, with his big body, long arms and athleticism turned out to be an unstoppable weapon on both offense and defense against certain smaller teams.

[xufan2020]

What the heck kind of question is this? The team can have up to 13 scholarship players, so why wouldn't the coaches try to fill that number with the best players they can find? Do you want them just to be thin one man, where injury or other issues could just leave them hanging? Gosh, he'd just be on the team one year.

All 13 have the opportunity to earn playing time and contribute. Those freshmen look great—seriously great looking class—but they haven't proved squat in college yet. The SF wing spot is our weakest spot. Here's a four year kid (he redshirted one year) who has produced at the D1 level and could play right away. He won't start, probably. As we saw with our three grad transfers this year, their status doesn't mean they'll take all the minutes, but they do offer a good option for some experience on the floor.

I'm hoping they look at the best possible grad transfers every year over playing a frosh who is still learning where to stand and how to play hard. It shouldn't mess with the progression of a four year player if that kid is working hard and doing what his coach asks him to.
Your point about injury is a fair one and having an extra small forward helps certainly. It’s not unreasonable however to question how this large, talented incoming class reacts to adding multiple grad transfers. Highly ranked recruits have (partially deserved) egos.

[scoscox]

Neither of the grad transfers were involved with play the same position as any of the incoming freshmen. We have three post players and two guards in the class. Carter maybe similar to freemantle and Ramsey but I’d argue those guys are 4-5s and carter is more of a 3/4. Utopia is definitely a 3

[XUGRAD80]

They new players will hopefully take 5-10 minutes away from Naji, Q, and Scruggs who all averaged 32-38 minutes per game. Even Kennedy averaged 12 mpg. Castlin, Welage, and Hankins all averaged right at 20 minutes per game.

If they get the core 4 at 25-30 minutes per game, and then fill in the minutes of those that have departed, they still have a lot of minutes to pass out....as a plus it also keeps everyone fresh for the end of games and for later in the season.

[Muskie in dayton]

Your point about injury is a fair one and having an extra small forward helps certainly. It’s not unreasonable however to question how this large, talented incoming class reacts to adding multiple grad transfers. Highly ranked recruits have (partially deserved) egos.

Are you suggesting the freshmen don’t need to earn their minutes? They should be given out like trick-or-treat candy so they don’t get their egos hurt?

[Xville]

Your point about injury is a fair one and having an extra small forward helps certainly. It’s not unreasonable however to question how this large, talented incoming class reacts to adding multiple grad transfers. Highly ranked recruits have (partially deserved) egos.

I really don't care about hurting people's feelings and I doubt Steele and the staff care either. I really doubt Steele and the staff when recruiting these kids and their parents are promising minutes. They are probably promising the opportunity to earn minutes, and being parent figures while the kids are on campus.

Plus, while the incoming class is a great one, these aren't one and done sure lottery picks. The highest ranked recruit coming in is Tandy, who is toward the bottom of the top 100. Not saying these kids aren't going to be great players, but I highly doubt any of them are going to come in and set the world on fire from day 1 and expect 30-35 minutes a game.

[xukeith]

In past coach shows, X coaches have said when recruiting, they want to balance the classes so they have 2-3 in each class by need as they grow when graduations and more recruits.

If this frosh class grows to 6, that probably means 2 will transfer over their X careers and 2020 recruiting class will be smaller. Unless they recruit a top 50 kid, pass as X is in good shape. I also doubt all these frosh will contribute much next year.

When Scruggs, Harden and Marshall were frosh, Naji got pt off the bench and played a lot. Scruggs was very limited and Eiias got nil.

Bluiett and Macura were top talents and got immediate frosh playing time.

We shall see.

[xu koop scoop]

I can visualize one undetermined freshman being good enough to replace one of our Core 4 as a starter. Think of all the Freshmen we've had starting in their careers - Larkin, Hill, West, Tre, Sato & many others. If our recruits are really that good, then one or more may end up as starters early in the season. I appreciate our Core 4, but everyone of them is inconsistent as can be. Every one of those Core 4 was capable of giving virtually no points, multiple turnovers & 0% from 3 on a given night. Every one of those Core 4 was also capable of 20 pts or a double-double or no turnovers on a given night. By the same token, these Freshmen we get so excited to see can end up being Kennedy or James all over again.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Your point about injury is a fair one and having an extra small forward helps certainly. It’s not unreasonable however to question how this large, talented incoming class reacts to adding multiple grad transfers. Highly ranked recruits have (partially deserved) egos.

Yeah I dont subscribe to this.

1. Freshman are rarely as good nor contribute as much as fans are expecting.
2. Bring in as many good players as you can and let them fight it out in practice. If the freshman are better than the transfers they will win the minutes.

Having more talent is never an issue imo.

[xavier513]

I can visualize one undetermined freshman being good enough to replace one of our Core 4 as a starter. Think of all the Freshmen we've had starting in their careers - Larkin, Hill, West, Tre, Sato & many others. If our recruits are really that good, then one or more may end up as starters early in the season. I appreciate our Core 4, but everyone of them is inconsistent as can be. Every one of those Core 4 was capable of giving virtually no points, multiple turnovers & 0% from 3 on a given night. Every one of those Core 4 was also capable of 20 pts or a double-double or no turnovers on a given night. By the same token, these Freshmen we get so excited to see can end up being Kennedy or James all over again.

I'd hold your horses on that one (and I know you acknowledged this at the end of your post). Our core four are all starting next year. I'm as excited about this recruiting class as the next guy, but lets be realistic here... our top 25 class ranking is based off of quantity, not quality. Yeah, we have four or five 4* players, but none of them are top 75 caliber guys. I'm pretty sure Goodin, Jones, Scruggs & Marshall were all ranked higher than all five of our 2019 recruits, not to mention that the core 4 are all Upper Classmen, which is a huge deal. As things stand now, it seems we have a pretty clear starting lineup of Goodin, Scruggs, Marshall, Carter & Jones. I could see Tandy as our 6th leading scorer, but we'll most likely land a sharp shooting grad transfer that may push him down to option #7.

[xuwin]

What the heck kind of question is this? The team can have up to 13 scholarship players, so why wouldn't the coaches try to fill that number with the best players they can find? Do you want them just to be thin one man, where injury or other issues could just leave them hanging? Gosh, he'd just be on the team one year.

All 13 have the opportunity to earn playing time and contribute. Those freshmen look great—seriously great looking class—but they haven't proved squat in college yet. The SF wing spot is our weakest spot. Here's a four year kid (he redshirted one year) who has produced at the D1 level and could play right away. He won't start, probably. As we saw with our three grad transfers this year, their status doesn't mean they'll take all the minutes, but they do offer a good option for some experience on the floor.

I'm hoping they look at the best possible grad transfers every year over playing a frosh who is still learning where to stand and how to play hard. It shouldn't mess with the progression of a four year player if that kid is working hard and doing what his coach asks him to.

Those who don't think that they can compete for playing time will weed themselves out and that works for everybody. They can move on to a program where they can play and it opens up a scholarship to improve that slot. Xavier should try to fill every available scholarship with the best talent that they can find.

[sirthought]

Your point about injury is a fair one and having an extra small forward helps certainly. It’s not unreasonable however to question how this large, talented incoming class reacts to adding multiple grad transfers. Highly ranked recruits have (partially deserved) egos.

Of course it's unreasonable.

Every player in D1 knows how many scholarships are on a team. 13! And yeah they want to play, but they also want their team to win for the pride and experience. Coach wants to win for the cash bonus. You win with getting as many players as you can. So they look for the best players they can get in the current landscape.

Sometimes they don't fill a scholarship, but if we are thin at SF and we have a chance to get an experienced, productive SF for one year that we can reasonably trust on the floor while other guys are figuring stuff out…I say recruit that kid. If the current players beat him out in practice that's all the better because it means someone is excelling at what's been asked. It's a competition from top to bottom.

Even if the transfer doesn't get to play much, that's fine because he knew coming here who he'd be up against to win playing time.

[xufan2020]

Of course it's unreasonable.

Every player in D1 knows how many scholarships are on a team. 13! And yeah they want to play, but they also want their team to win for the pride and experience. Coach wants to win for the cash bonus. You win with getting as many players as you can. So they look for the best players they can get in the current landscape.

Sometimes they don't fill a scholarship, but if we are thin at SF and we have a chance to get an experienced, productive SF for one year that we can reasonably trust on the floor while other guys are figuring stuff out…I say recruit that kid. If the current players beat him out in practice that's all the better because it means someone is excelling at what's been asked. It's a competition from top to bottom.

Even if the transfer doesn't get to play much, that's fine because he knew coming here who he'd be up against to win playing time.
I see, I’ll concede my point.
Anyone know our chances at landing Utomi?

[xukeith]

Yeah I dont subscribe to this.

1. Freshman are rarely as good nor contribute as much as fans are expecting.
2. Bring in as many good players as you can and let them fight it out in practice. If the freshman are better than the transfers they will win the minutes.

Having more talent is never an issue imo.

Amen.

[Xuperman]

Those who don't think that they can compete for playing time will weed themselves out and that works for everybody. They can move on to a program where they can play and it opens up a scholarship to improve that slot. Xavier should try to fill every available scholarship with the best talent that they can find.

The off season has just begun and you can bet your sweet bippy there’s more to come +/- wise. What’s the story with Hanson? Are we to believe that he gave up a full ride at an Ivy League school, sat out a year, and will pay for his tuition at X riding the pine as a walk on? I have a hunch he’s a much better player than we know. Dontarius James provided no production his 1st year sitting at the end of the bench. I just can’t see him repeating that role again. I have the same hunch about him. Another transfer is certainly possible and the redshirt rule has to be something the coaching staff is considering. Occasionally BIG TIME programs sign more scholarship players than slots available, with the understanding that the necessary moves will be made to end up with the best 13 in the fall.

[X-band '01]

Was he on an academic scholarship at Columbia? Keep in mind they don't offer athletic schollies in the Ivy League.

[MITTENMUSKIE16]

John Petty from Alabama is a guy who just entered his name into the transfer portal. He would be a sit one, play two guy, adding to the depleted '18 class. Not saying there is any chance, but everyone has mentioned that taking a traditional transfer to balance the classes is desirable. He's from Huntsville, AL, so I'm curious if Jonas had any contact with him as a HS recruit. I don't see him being a likely guy to go after, but I think we could use somebody that will be a senior in that class down the road. Worth kicking the tires on.

[sirthought]

Hanson is a walk on, again. His family is save between $20-$30K per year by attending Xavier. It was never stated anywhere he was offered or suggested a basketball scholarship this coming season. Unless we hear otherwise, no reason to keep bringing it up.

[XUBison]

Hanson is a walk on, again. His family is save between $20-$30K per year by attending Xavier. It was never stated anywhere he was offered or suggested a basketball scholarship this coming season. Unless we hear otherwise, no reason to keep bringing it up.

Yeah, so shut up everyone.

[XfansinKy]

I would be happy if we somehow got a pure ball handling, tough on ball defending, pass first, starting point guard that shoots free throws at a high percentage. That would take ball handling pressure off Q and let him use his size, speed, strength, and that crazy 46" vertical leap to get to the basket. That's when he would look like an All Big East type of player in my opinion. He could facilitate, slash, posterize people in the open court, get more boards with his size and jumping ability etc. My previous posts sound like I don't think he's that good, but I just don't think he's a natural point guard. He wasn't in high school. In high school he played every position.

[bleedXblue]

I would be happy if we somehow got a pure ball handling, tough on ball defending, pass first, starting point guard that shoots free throws at a high percentage. That would take ball handling pressure off Q and let him use his size, speed, strength, and that crazy 46" vertical leap to get to the basket. That's when he would look like an All Big East type of player in my opinion. He could facilitate, slash, posterize people in the open court, get more boards with his size and jumping ability etc. My previous posts sound like I don't think he's that good, but I just don't think he's a natural point guard. He wasn't in high school. In high school he played every position.

College basketball is becoming or has become a shooters game. There is very little room for players who play off the ball and cant shoot.

[xuwin]

I would be happy if we somehow got a pure ball handling, tough on ball defending, pass first, starting point guard that shoots free throws at a high percentage. That would take ball handling pressure off Q and let him use his size, speed, strength, and that crazy 46" vertical leap to get to the basket. That's when he would look like an All Big East type of player in my opinion. He could facilitate, slash, posterize people in the open court, get more boards with his size and jumping ability etc. My previous posts sound like I don't think he's that good, but I just don't think he's a natural point guard. He wasn't in high school. In high school he played every position.

I'm not crazy about adding another point guard that can't shoot three's.

[drudy23]

College basketball is becoming or has become a shooters game. There is very little room for players who play off the ball and cant shoot.

This.

At this point, you're pretty much recruiting shooters at every position, with maybe one true big guy in the mix.

[xukeith]

This.

At this point, you're pretty much recruiting shooters at every position, with maybe one true big guy in the mix.

And only 1 superstar who is weak on defense. Everyone else has to be very tough and play tough defense then shoot the ball.

[Masterofreality]

Wonder what's up with Zach Harvey? Has X given up cause they think he's going to Gonzaga?

[xukeith]

Grad transfer article about MAC transfers. FWIW

https://www.cleveland.com/sports/2019/03/grass-not-always-greener-for-mac-basketball-transfers.html

[xukeith]

Wonder what's up with Zach Harvey? Has X given up cause they think he's going to Gonzaga?

I was really hoping X got him. Maybe it is a 2020 get.

X needs top 50 talent like him as long as he is a very hard worker and can play defense.

[sirthought]

Grad transfer article about MAC transfers. FWIW

https://www.cleveland.com/sports/2019/03/grass-not-always-greener-for-mac-basketball-transfers.html

Seems like transfers in general. They didn't seem to recall Matt Stainbrook doing pretty well after his transfer.

[X-band '01]

More like "didn't fit their narrative" would apply as to why Stainbrook wasn't included.

[xavierj]

Wonder what's up with Zach Harvey? Has X given up cause they think he's going to Gonzaga?

I don’t think Gonzaga is recruiting him any longer. For Xavier I am not sure. He was thinking about reclassifying to 2019 and Xavier wanted him but for whatever reason, if Xavier didn’t get him for 2019, they wouldn’t get him. Not sure why though.

[sirthought]

There are so many freshmen now, Steele might just want to spread out the youth a bit. You can only give attention to so many newcomers.

[XUGRAD80]

I don’t think Gonzaga is recruiting him any longer. For Xavier I am not sure. He was thinking about reclassifying to 2019 and Xavier wanted him but for whatever reason, if Xavier didn’t get him for 2019, they wouldn’t get him. Not sure why though.

Harvey just got an offer from Alabama

[JTG]

Harvey just got an offer from Alabama

So what, it's ALA bball, not football.

[XUGRAD80]

So what, it's ALA bball, not football.

Does show that he is still getting offers and that his recruiting is still open. Also, don’t discount any of the SEC schools anymore. It used to be KY, FLA and a bunch of others, but that’s no longer the case.

[JTG]

Does show that he is still getting offers and that his recruiting is still open. Also, don’t discount any of the SEC schools anymore. It used to be KY, FLA and a bunch of others, but that’s no longer the case.

I know, but still, I don't think Ala will ever be a factor in bball just like IU is never a factor in football. Speaking of IU, I saw where Beverly was there recently, are we still a maybe with him ?

[XUGRAD80]

I know, but still, I don't think Ala will ever be a factor in bball........

According the 24/7.....

Alabama had the #24 recruiting class in 2018 and has the #17 class for this year. They keep recruiting like that and they will almost certainly become a “factor”.

In fact the SEC has SIX schools in the top 30 for 2019....KY, FLA, GA, BAMA, AUB, and TN, and had SIX in 2018 (including Alabama in BOTH years)

[Xavier]

Not to mention Texas A&M is reportedly getting Buzz Williams....SEC is going to be the second best conference. Some years might be the top conference. Though I assume LSU will be going down soon.

[X-band '01]

Sounds like Mike Tranghese being hired as a consultant for the SEC has paid huge dividends for the conference on the basketball side.

I wonder what his price would be to help get the Pac-12 back on track.

[Smooth]

Sounds like Mike Tranghese being hired as a consultant for the SEC has paid huge dividends for the conference on the basketball side.

I wonder what his price would be to help get the Pac-12 back on track.

I've heard from my sources that God turned down that offer because the job was too difficult.

[XfansinKy]

Auburn's point guard (Harper) is a good example of the kind of ball handler I speak of. Natural point guard and pure ball handler out there knocking down free throws. Those guys will always be around D1 basketball. I love it!! ;)

[xukeith]

Auburn's point guard (Harper) is a good example of the kind of ball handler I speak of. Natural point guard and pure ball handler out there knocking down free throws. Those guys will always be around D1 basketball. I love it!! ;)

Hoping Ramsey in 2020 is that rock solid pg.

[xufan02]

Hoping Ramsey in 2020 is that rock solid pg.

I think you mean Dwon Odom. Ramsey is a center.

[BandAid]

I think you mean Dwon Odom. Ramsey is a center.

Hey, a guy can hope

[IM4X]

Hoping Ramsey in 2020 is that rock solid pg.

Heck, I too would love to see a big like Ramsey prove to be rock solid at the point by 2020.

[XfansinKy]

I'm trying to find out if Bolden is considering X at all, or if he's already made a choice or what.

[xufan02]

I'm trying to find out if Bolden is considering X at all, or if he's already made a choice or what.

Xavier has reached out to Bolden, but I wouldn't say they are in hot pursuit of him. Bolden isn't an upgrade when comparing him to Quentin, Scruggs, and KyKy. Also he is not an elite shooter. A guy to watch out for if he does actually leave Nebraska would be Thomas Allen. He planned to transfer prior to Fred Hoidberg being announced. Xavier recruited him out of high school and he played for D West's Gardener Roads AAU team.

[X-Expert]

Last I heard Kansas and the zags have backed off of him. Gonzaga was his first choice. As for year, his high school said he wasn’t eligible to return so 2019 may be his option unless another high school finds a way. I think x is still recruiting him and are in the mix. So much will depend on Who X still gets.

[XUBison]

FWIW, David Jenkins is transferring from South Dakota St. ~ Soph guard, 6’ 2”, 20 ppg, 45% 3-pt, 80% ft. Scored 35 vs. Memphis early in season and 19 vs. Texas in the NIT. Guy is legit. Would have to sit one year, but will be highly sought after in transfer market. Saw a bunch of Loserville fans pleading to him in his Twitter feed.

[xukeith]

FWIW, David Jenkins is transferring from South Dakota St. ~ Soph guard, 6’ 2”, 20 ppg, 45% 3-pt, 80% ft. Scored 35 vs. Memphis early in season and 19 vs. Texas in the NIT. Guy is legit. Would have to sit one year, but will be highly sought after in transfer market. Saw a bunch of Loserville fans pleading to him in his Twitter feed.

Transfers from lower D1 schools do not score close to what they did in the lower D1 school. They luckily max out at 11-12 ppg.
I hope he comes to X and scores 18 but not likely.

[xukeith]

Jenkins likely doesn't want to ride the bench being a stud scorer. Will Scruggs sit for another player?

[scoscox]

Jenkins likely doesn't want to ride the bench being a stud scorer. Will Scruggs sit for another player?

lol this guy would have no shot at beating scruggs out for the starting job. negative percent chance. most of these grad transfers don't come in expecting to earn starter's minutes and if he does he's not gonna transfer to place like xavier

[XUBison]

lol this guy would have no shot at beating scruggs out for the starting job. negative percent chance. most of these grad transfers don't come in expecting to earn starter's minutes and if he does he's not gonna transfer to place like xavier


Starter’s minutes? You mean like Castlin, Welage, and Hankins, all of whom played starter minutes at times?

Regardless, he’s not a grad-transfer. He’d sit one to play two. He’d compete for major minutes here, one way or another. He would have taken nearly all of Castlin’s and Kennedy’s minutes this year, without question. He’ll land at a high mid-major (UNLV?) to major program.

[scoscox]

Starter’s minutes? You mean like Castlin, Welage, and Hankins, all of whom played starter minutes at times?

Regardless, he’s not a grad-transfer. He’d sit one to play two. He’d compete for major minutes here, one way or another. He would have taken nearly all of Castlin’s and Kennedy’s minutes this year, without question. He’ll land at a high mid-major (UNLV?) to major program.

this year was an anomaly with the coaching change and all our open scholarships. i have no doubt he'll land at a high major and i'd be happy to have him, but the idea that he'd send paul scruggs to the bench in his senior year (assuming he's still here) is crazy. it wouldn't happen for multiple reasons. i think the most logical explanation would be that it's a contingency plan for scruggs leaving and an attempt to balance the roster/make up for last year's recruiting class

[xukeith]

lol this guy would have no shot at beating scruggs out for the starting job. negative percent chance. most of these grad transfers don't come in expecting to earn starter's minutes and if he does he's not gonna transfer to place like xavier

Agreed!

[xukeith]

this year was an anomaly with the coaching change and all our open scholarships. i have no doubt he'll land at a high major and i'd be happy to have him, but the idea that he'd send paul scruggs to the bench in his senior year (assuming he's still here) is crazy. it wouldn't happen for multiple reasons. i think the most logical explanation would be that it's a contingency plan for scruggs leaving and an attempt to balance the roster/make up for last year's recruiting class

I get the gut feeling that Jenkins still want to keep scoring. He won with his team and probably wants to play with a good team. I imagine there are other high major schools with a great need at a sg. He will be well aware of X and Scruggs/Harden/Ky Ky/Bishop. Odds are slim but who am I ?

[scoscox]

I get the gut feeling that Jenkins still want to keep scoring. He won with his team and probably wants to play with a good team. I imagine there are other high major schools with a great need at a sg. He will be well aware of X and Scruggs/Harden/Ky Ky/Bishop. Odds are slim but who am I ?

yea, i don't see us promising him anything more than back up minutes. kyky wouldn't be happy about his minutes being taken either. shooting guard doesn't seem like a pressing need for a transfer.

in other news, DJ Harvey is transferring from Notre Dame. he would fill that small forward role that we seem to be going after. really highly rated in highschool. kinda disappointed at notre dame so far

[XfansinKy]

I'm sorry if this has already been asked or should be common knowledge, but if a player like Dieonte Miles for example redshirts, does he still get his scholarship?

[xufan02]

I'm sorry if this has already been asked or should be common knowledge, but if a player like Dieonte Miles for example redshirts, does he still get his scholarship?

Yes, if Miles redshirts he would still count against the 13 scholarship limit.

[xufan02]

yea, i don't see us promising him anything more than back up minutes. kyky wouldn't be happy about his minutes being taken either. shooting guard doesn't seem like a pressing need for a transfer.

in other news, DJ Harvey is transferring from Notre Dame. he would fill that small forward role that we seem to be going after. really highly rated in highschool. kinda disappointed at notre dame so far

DJ Harvey is at the very top of the list for Xavier. Sit one play two.

[bleedXblue]

DJ Harvey is at the very top of the list for Xavier. Sit one play two.

Sign this kid up now!

[XUBison]

yea, i don't see us promising him anything more than back up minutes. kyky wouldn't be happy about his minutes being taken either. shooting guard doesn't seem like a pressing need for a transfer.

in other news, DJ Harvey is transferring from Notre Dame. he would fill that small forward role that we seem to be going after. really highly rated in highschool. kinda disappointed at notre dame so far

Disappointed? Perhaps that’s because of the microfracture knee surgery he had a year ago. No thanks.

[xufan2020]

Please bring in DJ! Microfracture knee surgery or not, we need talented players like him in that 2022 class. He lit up Purdue/Florida State and shown he’s capable of putting up double figures against UNC, UCLA, Syracuse, and Virginia. How could anyone not want him on the team?

[XMuskieFTW]

Please bring in DJ! Microfracture knee surgery or not, we need talented players like him in that 2022 class. He lit up Purdue/Florida State and shown he’s capable of putting up double figures against UNC, UCLA, Syracuse, and Virginia. How could anyone not want him on the team?

Because his shooting numbers are abysmal. He's a "shooter" whose shooting percentages are the same as Q's.

[xufan2020]

Because his shooting numbers are abysmal. He's a "shooter" whose shooting percentages are the same as Q's.
He’d have a whole season to heal up and work on his shot. He was a top 50 recruit for a reason. Down years happen, doesn’t necessarily mean someone isn’t a capable shooter. I know DJ isn’t as good of a shooter as brad Redford, but look at Redford’s 3pt% the year he came off of knee injury. It went down significantly. Then what happened the following year? Back to normal

[XUBison]

Please bring in DJ! Microfracture knee surgery or not, we need talented players like him in that 2022 class. He lit up Purdue/Florida State and shown he’s capable of putting up double figures against UNC, UCLA, Syracuse, and Virginia. How could anyone not want him on the team?

Because I don’t want to commit a scholarship for the next three years to a guy coming off microfracture surgery. I realize he played this year after the surgery, but long-term recovery from microfracture is such an unknown. I would take someone coming off an ACL 100 times out of 100. And his game relies on his athletic ability... yuck. I mean, maybe if he could shoot.

[Xville]

Not that he is an option, but quinerly expectedly is transferring from nova. Guy seemed to have a crappy attitude from the beginning and didnt want to work which is something Wright doesnt put up with.

[xufan2020]

Because I don’t want to commit a scholarship for the next three years to a guy coming off microfracture surgery. I realize he played this year after the surgery, but long-term recovery from microfracture is such an unknown. I would take someone coming off an ACL 100 times out of 100. And his game relies on his athletic ability... yuck. I mean, maybe if he could shoot.
He was closing out the season with some big games and starting to look better.
https://www.ndinsider.com/basketball/mens/noie-notre-dame-sophomore-d-j-harvey-looks-to-build/article_5fd14f1d-1425-5185-81c0-eb9494e0558a.html
I think a good offseason of work and learning Xavier’s system would do him well. Really hope he comes.

[XMuskieFTW]

He was closing out the season with some big games and starting to look better.
https://www.ndinsider.com/basketball/mens/noie-notre-dame-sophomore-d-j-harvey-looks-to-build/article_5fd14f1d-1425-5185-81c0-eb9494e0558a.html
I think a good offseason of work and learning Xavier’s system would do him well. Really hope he comes.

I mean from January 1st on he shot a cool 26.4%(19/72) from 3. I'd rather take a proven shooter than a guy who maybe, might not be terrible in the future.

[xufan2020]

I mean from January 1st on he shot a cool 26.4%(19/72) from 3. I'd rather take a proven shooter than a guy who maybe, might not be terrible in the future.
Well once he started feeling more like himself (according to the article) he shot 34% in his final 7 games. I understand we can cherry pick stats all day but the fact remains is your not going to find a guy with his level talent that’s a proven shooter. He wouldn’t even be one of the top 3 shooters on the team once he stars playing.

Another factor I’m considering is he would be a senior in the lost recruiting class.

[X-band '01]

Not that he is an option, but quinerly expectedly is transferring from nova. Guy seemed to have a crappy attitude from the beginning and didnt want to work which is something Wright doesnt put up with.

I doubt Nova fans will be crying about his departure - he wasn't really in their rotation towards the end of the season that much (if at all).

[scoscox]

nova is going to be extremely thin at guard next year

[XUGRAD80]

nova is going to be extremely thin at guard next year

Would expect them to pick up a grad transfer to help there. There are many available.

[XfansinKy]

I mean from January 1st on he shot a cool 26.4%(19/72) from 3. I'd rather take a proven shooter than a guy who maybe, might not be terrible in the future.

Also, this upcoming team could actually be really good with an addition of just one guy that can consistently make shots. Not sure about Carter, considering the level of competition he's moving up to. If we could get a good shooter that's eligible, I would think it would be a done deal. I'm not giving up on Elias as a shooter yet. We just need one guy to help spread the floor and we have another X team capable of going deep into the NCAA tournament.

[UCGRAD4X]

It is frustrating, as much as this is becoming a shooter's game, esp. watching the tourney, how much Xavier lacks in this regard. We definitely need more shooters to go deep.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Yeah when people were debating what was more important to add in a grad transfer a shooter or big guy, I was definitely in the shooter camp. Teams can be more successful playing small if they have shooters than playing big with no shooters imo. Luckily the big we added it appears can step outside and knock down some threes. Still think we need to add an above average three point shooter if we can. People seem to thing there is no room for another guard but if we can get someone who is a solid outside shooter there will definitely be room.

[bleedXblue]

Yeah when people were debating what was more important to add in a grad transfer a shooter or big guy, I was definitely in the shooter camp. Teams can be more successful playing small if they have shooters than playing big with no shooters imo. Luckily the big we added it appears can step outside and knock down some threes. Still think we need to add an above average three point shooter if we can. People seem to thing there is no room for another guard but if we can get someone who is a solid outside shooter there will definitely be room.

Totally agree, more shooters are never a bad thing

We will need help in the post too though so I can see that need as well. Hopefully one of the frosh bigs steps up early and proves he can play some decent minutes.

[muskienick]

Totally agree, more shooters are never a bad thing

We will need help in the post too though so I can see that need as well. Hopefully one of the frosh bigs steps up early and proves he can play some decent minutes.

I thought the recent grad transfer from Ohio U. was going to be "the help in the post" we'll need next season. I'd guess that Tyrique will be a year better than this year (like many of our big guys have progressed in the past) and, although Hankins' game is more post up and shoot rather than the somewhat more perimeter game of the OU guy, he (OU) did have good rebound numbers in the MAC, (a few steps up from D-2).

[bleedXblue]

I thought the recent grad transfer from Ohio U. was going to be "the help in the post" we'll need next season. I'd guess that Tyrique will be a year better than this year (like many of our big guys have progressed in the past) and, although Hankins' game is more post up and shoot rather than the somewhat more perimeter game of the OU guy, he (OU) did have good rebound numbers in the MAC, (a few steps up from D-2).

Carter is not a traditional 4 or 5. He more of a hybrid 3/4 IMHO.

[noteggs]

I think Carter can spell a few at the 5 if we go small ball. He played 5 a bit for Bobcats so he knows the position.

Obviously a stretch 4 is his natural position which is great because this will open the lane. IMO, hopefully we don’t see him a lot at 3 or 5 but can handle both.

[Juice]

Carter is not a traditional 4 or 5. He more of a hybrid 3/4 IMHO.

No he will start at the 4 and play the 5 in small ball lineups. He played 75% of OU's minutes at the 4. Playing at the three would murder our defense.

[Backyard Champ]

He didn't say he wasn't going to play the 4/5, just said that he isn't a traditional 4/5 player. Meaning, he is not a back to the basket, inside type of player. He'd rather face the hoop from outside the paint, and drive or shoot. Most people think that type of of player is closer to a 3/4 hybrid, rather than a 4/5 hybrid.

[Juice]

He didn't say he wasn't going to play the 4/5, just said that he isn't a traditional 4/5 player. Meaning, he is not a back to the basket, inside type of player. He'd rather face the hoop from outside the paint, and drive or shoot. Most people think that type of of player is closer to a 3/4 hybrid, rather than a 4/5 hybrid.

Yeah I know that. Xavier hasn't had a back to the basket 4 in years, other than this year when they had to play Jones and Hankins out of necessity. No one plays that type of lineup anymore.

[noteggs]

If new grad transfer rule change passes, may really impact our recruiting in the future.

https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2019/04/05/ncaa-graduate-transfer-rule-vote-scholarships-change

[GoMuskies]

If new grad transfer rule change passes, may really impact our recruiting in the future.

https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2019/04/05/ncaa-graduate-transfer-rule-vote-scholarships-change

"Hey guys, let's take a problem that doesn't exist and try to fix it!"

-NCAA

[D-West & PO-Z]

"Hey guys, let's take a problem that doesn't exist and try to fix it!"

-NCAA

Seriously...

[bleedXblue]

Yeah I know that. Xavier hasn't had a back to the basket 4 in years, other than this year when they had to play Jones and Hankins out of necessity. No one plays that type of lineup anymore.

it can also be described as a big, strong guy who can finish in the post, rebound and block some shots. That is not what Carter is.........

[XUGRAD80]

If new grad transfer rule change passes, may really impact our recruiting in the future.

https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2019/04/05/ncaa-graduate-transfer-rule-vote-scholarships-change

Total BS and just a way for the universities to keep their “labor” under control. Of course the athletes look at it as a way to continue to play! Why shouldn’t they? But it’s also a way for the athlete to have some control over that playing...where and for whom! I guess too many football coaches have been losing players to the competition and just don’t want that to happen anymore. I can assure people of one thing, the NCAA has little or no real concern over the athletes really getting a masters degree or not, they just want to protect the “integrity” of the product.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Total BS and just a way for the universities to keep their “labor” under control. Of course the athletes look at it as a way to continue to play! Why shouldn’t they? But it’s also a way for the athlete to have some control over that playing...where and for whom! I guess too many football coaches have been losing players to the competition and just don’t want that to happen anymore. I can assure people of one thing, the NCAA has little or no real concern over the athletes really getting a masters degree or not, they just want to protect the “integrity” of the product.

Bingo.

[noteggs]

"Hey guys, let's take a problem that doesn't exist and try to fix it!"

-NCAA

“Next thing we’ll do is make the one and dones complete some type of degree in one year...no wait that’ll hurt Duke and Kentucky ...never mind.”

-NCAA

[UCGRAD4X]

That's bullsh*t. I guarantee there's going to be a lot of push-back on this. It won't improve the integrity of the product. What coach or institution is going to "take the players word for it" that they will finish their degree? They will have no way to control or insure it. What team would be willing to take that chance unless they know they're going to have extra scolly's the following year. The player better damn well be worth it. I just don't see it happening.

It will completely dry up this market. But maybe that's the point.

[xufan02]

I guess I'm in the minority that doesn't disagree with this. I know it is a basketball decision for most of these kids, but they should complete their class work. If not then what was the purpose of this in the first place.

[MHettel]

I guess I'm in the minority that doesn't disagree with this. I know it is a basketball decision for most of these kids, but they should complete their class work. If not then what was the purpose of this in the first place.

Do you believe that it's appropriate to admit into a university a scholarship athlete that would otherwise not be admitted if he / she was just a "regular" student?

ITS ALL about sports. Why should they clamp down on this particular issue.

Imagine ND football with ONLY players that could be admitted as regular students.....It's called Harvard football.

Its all a farce. This rule proposal is just flat out DUMB.

[scoscox]

I guess I'm in the minority that doesn't disagree with this. I know it is a basketball decision for most of these kids, but they should complete their class work. If not then what was the purpose of this in the first place.

plenty of kids don't complete their undergrad when they leave early for the nba. seems absurd to force guys who actually have completed their undergrad degree to finish the graduate degree if they don't want to

[XUGRAD80]

I guess I'm in the minority that doesn't disagree with this. I know it is a basketball decision for most of these kids, but they should complete their class work. If not then what was the purpose of this in the first place.

This effects GRADUATE transfers. They have already completed a 4 year degree, and many of them have done it it 3 years by taking summer courses. Not every graduate degree can be finished in 1 year...especially if they are playing a sport.

I don’t see this as any more than football coaches wanting to control a player for there whole career. At the point that this would come into effect the player has already given them at least a 3 year commitment, and in many cases 4 years, when is enough, enough?

I also don’t think that most basketball coaches are going to support this, because there probably just as many kids that are “encouraged” to transfer, as there are those that choose to do it on their own.

[Muskie in dayton]

I guess I'm in the minority that doesn't disagree with this. I know it is a basketball decision for most of these kids, but they should complete their class work. If not then what was the purpose of this in the first place.

Seriously? How many graduate degrees can be completed in a year??

This is is the NCAA realizing that graduate transfers may hurt their D-UK-e... err I mean one and done... err I mean revenue if these guys that graduate and can go play on teams that beat their D-UK-e.

[noteggs]

This effects GRADUATE transfers. They have already completed a 4 year degree, and many of them have done it it 3 years by taking summer courses. Not every graduate degree can be finished in 1 year...especially if they are playing a sport.

I also don’t think that most basketball coaches are going to support this, because there probably just as many kids that are “encouraged” to transfer, as there are those that choose to do it on their own.

Very well said!

[X-Men55]

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/high-school/2019/04/03/former-park-tudor-star-bryce-moore-desirable-graduate-transfer-western-michigan-butler/3356900002/

Solid overall depth piece. Connection to Tre and visiting X and Creighton soon.

[GIMMFD]

plenty of kids don't complete their undergrad when they leave early for the nba. seems absurd to force guys who actually have completed their undergrad degree to finish the graduate degree if they don't want to



This effects GRADUATE transfers. They have already completed a 4 year degree, and many of them have done it it 3 years by taking summer courses. Not every graduate degree can be finished in 1 year...especially if they are playing a sport.

I don’t see this as any more than football coaches wanting to control a player for there whole career. At the point that this would come into effect the player has already given them at least a 3 year commitment, and in many cases 4 years, when is enough, enough?

I also don’t think that most basketball coaches are going to support this, because there probably just as many kids that are “encouraged” to transfer, as there are those that choose to do it on their own.

These two points sum it up perfectly it's a completely idiotic rule, and I could be incredibly shocked if this gets passed. How the hell is the Mark Emmert still president of the NCAA, that organization just looks dumber and dumber with each passing time frame.

[scoscox]

This effects GRADUATE transfers. They have already completed a 4 year degree, and many of them have done it it 3 years by taking summer courses. Not every graduate degree can be finished in 1 year...especially if they are playing a sport.

yea this is another reason it doesn't make sense from an academic standpoint, and the ncaa is basically using academic integrity to push this. it discourages grad transfers from possibly pursuing a more challenging degree to keep the team from being penalized. it just doesn't make sense

[UCGRAD4X]

plenty of kids don't complete their undergrad when they leave early for the nba. seems absurd to force guys who actually have completed their undergrad degree to finish the graduate degree if they don't want to

It's not forcing the student athlete to do ANYTHING! There is no obligation on their part to go any further than taking a few classes. How long would it take for for the school to catch up to the student if he didn't do anything in the graduate program at all except be admitted and schedule classes? By the time they do, he would be finished with basketball. It simply forces the program to take the chance that the student will finish a masters degree in one year, which is absurd for many reasons.

Who is does punish is the students who have every intention to finish a postgrad degree somewhere but no program will take them because they don't want to take the chance. There are many reasons why a student might not finish their degree of which the team/university has no control (or, often, the student himself). So some students might not finish anyway even if they intend to and 'convince' the school to take a chance on them.

This does not help anybody.

This is a complete joke.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I guess I'm in the minority that doesn't disagree with this. I know it is a basketball decision for most of these kids, but they should complete their class work. If not then what was the purpose of this in the first place.

Some graduate degrees take more than a year to complete.

[XUGRAD80]

And then there is the situation where a kid starts a graduate program and then realizes it’s not something they want to pursue any further because they don’t enjoy it......what then? Is the student then going to be expected to finish it? Seems like this has not been fully thought out by those proposing this new rule.

[UCGRAD4X]

And then there is the situation where a kid starts a graduate program and then realizes it’s not something they want to pursue any further because they don’t enjoy it......what then? Is the student then going to be expected to finish it? Seems like this has not been fully thought out by those proposing this new rule.

They can "expect" the student to finish all they want. The question is, can they COMPEL him too? The answer is, obviously, no. It is there that this whole proposal turns into a clusterf*ck all the way around.

[XUGRAD80]

They can "expect" the student to finish all they want. The question is, can they COMPEL him too? The answer is, obviously, no. It is there that this whole proposal turns into a clusterf*ck all the way around.

The only way that I can see that I can see them being able to compel someone to do it, is if they could word the scholarship in such a way that if the athlete doesn’t finish it within the allowable time period, that they would be legally forced to repay the institution......and I’m not real sure that would even be legal.

[XUGRAD80]

Meanwhile....back to recruiting tidbits and rumors

Rivals has a piece today on junior big man Ryan Kalkbrenner, 7ft and 225 lbs, Trinity Catholic of St. Louis. Not sure where I missed it, but he has already visited Xavier and came away impressed.

“ it was a good visit. I called them like two days before I visited but even though it was thrown together kind of quick it was still good. I think I would fit well in their system.”

He has also visited Tulsa and hopes to visit Missouri soon. Offers already from Illinois, Kansas State, Rice, and others. Considered a real rim protector and defensive specialist right now, but Rivals says he can score on the block, play a pick and pop, and can really run the floor. They expect his recruitment to really blow up this summer and into next season.

[XUBison]

Meanwhile....back to recruiting tidbits and rumors

Rivals has a piece today on junior big man Ryan Kalkbrenner, 7ft and 225 lbs, Trinity Catholic of St. Louis. Not sure where I missed it, but he has already visited Xavier and came away impressed.

“ it was a good visit. I called them like two days before I visited but even though it was thrown together kind of quick it was still good. I think I would fit well in their system.”

He has also visited Tulsa and hopes to visit Missouri soon. Offers already from Illinois, Kansas State, Rice, and others. Considered a real rim protector and defensive specialist right now, but Rivals says he can score on the block, play a pick and pop, and can really run the floor. They expect his recruitment to really blow up this summer and into next season.

Hmmm... Wonder if the NCAA can come up with a rule that would force him to come to Xavier. That would be cool.

[xukeith]

good article on transfer portal and so many players exploring options. Glad I am not a coach.
https://247sports.com/Article/College-basketball-transfer-portal-UMKC-11-players-130900424/

[xukeith]

Meanwhile....back to recruiting tidbits and rumors

Rivals has a piece today on junior big man Ryan Kalkbrenner, 7ft and 225 lbs, Trinity Catholic of St. Louis. Not sure where I missed it, but he has already visited Xavier and came away impressed.

“ it was a good visit. I called them like two days before I visited but even though it was thrown together kind of quick it was still good. I think I would fit well in their system.”

He has also visited Tulsa and hopes to visit Missouri soon. Offers already from Illinois, Kansas State, Rice, and others. Considered a real rim protector and defensive specialist right now, but Rivals says he can score on the block, play a pick and pop, and can really run the floor. They expect his recruitment to really blow up this summer and into next season.

His AAU stats are raw. 2.5 field goals made per game. 0.5 blocks per game. He is young and extremely thin.

https://basketball.realgm.com/player/Ryan-Kalkbrenner/Summary/134681

[noteggs]

good article on transfer portal and so many players exploring options. Glad I am not a coach.
https://247sports.com/Article/College-basketball-transfer-portal-UMKC-11-players-130900424/

That was a good article! Thanks for sharing.

[XfansinKy]

https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Basketball/TransferPortal/

[JTG]

Maybe Steele should take a look at 6'8"Jake LaRavia from Lawrence Central in Indy. Lightly recruited, now being looked at by Purdue. 17pp, 43% from 3 on 46-108 shooting. Not sure why he was overlooked but 43% for a season is pretty sweet.

[XfansinKy]

Maybe Steele should take a look at 6'8"Jake LaRavia from Lawrence Central in Indy. Lightly recruited, now being looked at by Purdue. 17pp, 43% from 3 on 46-108 shooting. Not sure why he was overlooked but 43% for a season is pretty sweet.

He's got some hops too. 36" vertical

[X-Men55]

Per 247Sports, 2019 NBA Global Academy SF Hyunjung Lee will schedule a visit to Xavier in the coming days.
Here's a highlight of the 6'7, 18 yr old
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Sz5-5cwD-M0

[JTG]

How did they find this dude ?
Panda Express ?

[scoscox]

that kid looks like a strong breeze could break him in half

[XUGRAD80]

A project for sure, but late signers usually are

[XU22]

Steele really hoping we can get Bryce Moore. Transfer from Western Michigan. Played at Park Tudor with Trevon and Jaren Jackson before Jackson went to La Lumiere. Played through a torn ACL the year before last, so he did not play last year. Grad transfer. Starts his official visit tomorrow.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Steele really hoping we can get Bryce Moore. Transfer from Western Michigan. Played at Park Tudor with Trevon and Jaren Jackson before Jackson went to La Lumiere. Played through a torn ACL the year before last, so he did not play last year. Grad transfer. Starts his official visit tomorrow.

39% from three with a torn ACL? I'll take that!

[scoscox]

Andy Mac on Redford's podcast said travis was "probably going after a transfer guard and another freshman", so maybe he was referring to moore and lee. Andy usually has pretty good info

[bobbiemcgee]

https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/high-school/2019/04/03/former-park-tudor-star-bryce-moore-desirable-graduate-transfer-western-michigan-butler/3356900002/

[murray87]

Moore played the entire 17-18 season with a torn ACL? Wow........

[xukeith]

I am hoping X can get that South Korean kid. 6'7 shooting guard.

[XU22]

Moore played the entire 17-18 season with a torn ACL? Wow........

Yeah I almost didn't believe it.

“Bryce Moore is most likely out for the year. We found out that at the end of the year last year that he played the year basically with a torn ACL, which I never even heard of. I didn’t know anybody was capable of doing that, but Bryce did and he had surgery at the end of the season and it doesn’t look like he’ll be back at all."

Here is the link to the full article:https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/2018/10/30/western-michigan-basketball-team-copes-injuries/1821803002/

[X-Men55]

Per Borzello - UT Arlington grad transfer Edric Dennis has heard from Kansas State, TCU, Alabama, Georgia Tech, Xavier, Utah State, Baylor and Western Kentucky, among others. 14.3 PPG and 4.5 RPG this past season.

[Xavgrad08]

The proposed change to the grad school rule has been defeated. Everything stays the same with the rule.
https://amp.si.com/college-basketball/2019/04/19/ncaa-rejects-proposal-change-grad-transfer-scholarship-rules-waiver

[UCGRAD4X]

The proposed change to the grad school change has been defeated. Everything stays the same with the rule.
https://amp.si.com/college-basketball/2019/04/19/ncaa-rejects-proposal-change-grad-transfer-scholarship-rules-waiver

Not surprising. Whoever thought this up in the first place, and whomever advanced it forward for consideration are buffoons. This idea should never have even seen the light of day....much less been put to a vote.

[noteggs]

The proposed change to the grad school rule has been defeated. Everything stays the same with the rule.
https://amp.si.com/college-basketball/2019/04/19/ncaa-rejects-proposal-change-grad-transfer-scholarship-rules-waiver

Not sure how many times this will/has happened but a good rule change:

• Incoming college athletes who have enrolled in summer school and received athletics financial aid can now transfer and play immediately without a waiver if their head coach departs before the first day of classes for the fall term.

[UCGRAD4X]

Not sure how many times this will/has happened but a good rule change:

• Incoming college athletes who have enrolled in summer school and received athletics financial aid can now transfer and play immediately without a waiver if their head coach departs before the first day of classes for the fall term.

Yeah, prolly not a huge need, but at something I can get behind.

[bjf123]

Yeah, prolly not a huge need, but at something I can get behind.

Yep. Very reasonable.


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[X-man]

Wonder what's up with Zach Harvey? Has X given up cause they think he's going to Gonzaga?

It is looking like Harvey is likely to be UC-bound, sort of odd given the new coach and Harvey's "baggage". I wonder if Xavier, assuming they were interested in him, may have backed off given the two guard verbals for 2020 along with the guards in the 2019 class. Xavier needs another big, and scholarships are limited if everyone stays. In fact, Harvey isn't even listed as offered by Xavier in the "Verbal Commits" site.

[noteggs]

It is looking like Harvey is likely to be UC-bound, sort of odd given the new coach and Harvey's "baggage". I wonder if Xavier, assuming they were interested in him, may have backed off given the two guard verbals for 2020 along with the guards in the 2019 class. Xavier needs another big, and scholarships are limited if everyone stays. In fact, Harvey isn't even listed as offered by Xavier in the "Verbal Commits" site.

Obviously we were aware of his baggage and most were willing to forgive if he signed with X. If he signs with UC, I’m going to try and be consistent with that issue (not to suggest you’re not). Would like to find out how this even came about.

However, if he plays well against X, I might slip and point out his baggage and say sUCks was desperate by allowing this guy on campus. Just saying.

[xu82]

Obviously we were aware of his baggage and most were willing to forgive if he signed with X. If he signs with UC, I’m going to try and be consistent with that issue (not to suggest you’re not). Would like to find out how this even came about.

However, if he plays well against X, I might slip and point out his baggage and say sUCks was desperate by allowing this guy on campus. Just saying.

THAT’S the spirit!!!

[sirthought]

Obviously we were aware of his baggage and most were willing to forgive if he signed with X. If he signs with UC, I’m going to try and be consistent with that issue (not to suggest you’re not). Would like to find out how this even came about.

However, if he plays well against X, I might slip and point out his baggage and say sUCks was desperate by allowing this guy on campus. Just saying.

You're all pride and honor.