View Full Version : Game Thread: Xavier vs. Butler (March 5, 2019)
paulxu
03-05-2019, 08:25 AM
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Xavier University Musketeers (16-13, 8-8 BE) vs. Butler Bulldogs (15-14, 6-10 BE)
Tuesday, March 5, 2019 6 PM ET
Hinkle Fieldhouse (9,100), Indianapolis, IN
Live Chat (http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=XavierHoops)
Notes and Stats (https://goxavier.com/news/2019/3/4/xavier-mens-basketball-takes-a-five-game-winning-streak-to-butler-on-tuesday.aspx?path=mbball)
Television: FS1 with play-by-play from Tim Brando and analysis from Nick Bahe.
Radio: 700 WLW-AM, including via iHeart Radio, TuneIn and via Sirius XM (380) and Internet (971) with play-by-play from XU Hall of Famer and former Musketeer standout Joe Sunderman ('79). Analysis will be provided by Xavier Hall of Famer and XU all-time leading scorer Byron Larkin ('88).
Live Stats: Media stats at Statbroadcast.com. Fan stats at GoXavier.com.
paulxu
03-05-2019, 08:30 AM
Get on the bus !
http://www.thehammitts.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/moreinfrontofbus-e1412281248122.jpg
Snipe is driving:drinks2:
GoMuskies
03-05-2019, 01:54 PM
X+4
American X
03-05-2019, 02:53 PM
I'm flipping off Butler as hard as I possibly can.
Masterofreality
03-05-2019, 03:07 PM
If I had butterflies (and I damn well did) before the St. Johns game last week, I have them triple right now.
Dammit! I want a Cintas on Saturday that is turning upside down in a fabulous, voluminous, ear splitting mass of racket and joy.
Please win tonight and give that to an old man.
paulxu
03-05-2019, 04:40 PM
You guys need to catch up. I'm way ahead on bourbon....
xu koop scoop
03-05-2019, 05:20 PM
RVing at camp Way Down upon the Suwanee River in Fla. 6 th straight winter. Going to light up Byron & Joe on Tune In radio. Wife getting SKyline Chili ready. Basic cable doesn't get Fox 1 here. So the Core 4, Grad Transfers 3, Byron & Joe 2 plus a Harden in a Win Tree will get u s to 6 s traight
kellernr
03-05-2019, 06:04 PM
Scruggs with the 3
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If they ALL play well at once, almost anything is possible!
If we are lazy with the ball.......not much is possible.....
You guys need to catch up. I'm way ahead on bourbon....
Not bourbon, but I should NOT be underestimated!
GoMuskies
03-05-2019, 06:11 PM
Naji is killing us.
Naji is killing us.
It seems the hype goes to his head and he doesn’t play within himself. Take care of the ball, and let it slow down. When he’s good, he’s amazing. But....
Xville
03-05-2019, 06:17 PM
Offense very stagnant last few minutes
GoMuskies
03-05-2019, 06:17 PM
Jesus, that was some of the worst Xavier basketball of the season. Hope it's out of our system!
kellernr
03-05-2019, 06:18 PM
Scruggs has a hot start and Naji not looking like the big east player of the week. Hard to get the offense going when Castlin and Welage are on the floor together
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MITTENMUSKIE16
03-05-2019, 06:20 PM
I think if we’re going to press it makes sense to put Eli in for Welage. We gotta pick this thing back up
scoscox
03-05-2019, 06:20 PM
I want elias
kellernr
03-05-2019, 06:22 PM
Harden in. Harden 3. BOOM
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GoMuskies
03-05-2019, 06:22 PM
I want elias
Got em!
Xville
03-05-2019, 06:22 PM
Eli!!!!!!
MITTENMUSKIE16
03-05-2019, 06:24 PM
Eli picking up where he left off.
scoscox
03-05-2019, 06:25 PM
way too much welage
GoMuskies
03-05-2019, 06:25 PM
Ok Naji
MITTENMUSKIE16
03-05-2019, 06:25 PM
Lmao Naji pulling up from Cincinnati. Cash.
Xville
03-05-2019, 06:26 PM
Naji certainly doesnt lack for confidence....that was from ft wayne
kellernr
03-05-2019, 06:26 PM
The steal and deep 3 by Naji. X has hit 4 threes so far. Once butler starts extending to defend the 3 Jones and Hankins can go to work down low.
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MITTENMUSKIE16
03-05-2019, 06:27 PM
Naji certainly doesnt lack for confidence....that was from ft wayne
Ft Wayne, Cincinnati. What’s the difference.
AviatorX
03-05-2019, 06:27 PM
Let's open this up. X is better. Nice 8-10 point lead at the break would be great.
Now I remember the feeling of what watching every game was like last year - way too invested.
Don’t throw that pass, and don’t touch it after it’s tipped!
GoMuskies
03-05-2019, 06:30 PM
6 total fouls. I like that.
MITTENMUSKIE16
03-05-2019, 06:34 PM
Not playing very well offensively. A couple threes and the defensive are keeping us in it. Can’t get anything going inside.
Xville
03-05-2019, 06:34 PM
Not playing well at all but only down a bucket. Butler is not good but x is certainly playing to the level of competition.
kellernr
03-05-2019, 06:34 PM
Hankins is awful on switches. He never attempts to get back to his guy. Now Scruggs has 2 fouls.
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GoMuskies
03-05-2019, 06:35 PM
Pretty shitty half so far. Luckily Butler is terrible and will give us every opportunity to win this one. Just need to play a little better.
bjf123
03-05-2019, 06:36 PM
Dammit! I want a Cintas on Saturday that is turning upside down in a fabulous, voluminous, ear splitting mass of racket and joy.
Please win tonight and give that to an old man.
Just heard today that the students will be on spring break for the game Saturday. That stinks.
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Xville
03-05-2019, 06:38 PM
Just heard today that the students will be on spring break for the game Saturday. That stinks.
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Seriously? For senior day? Who in the xavier administration is the moron that scheduled spring break that week...
Just looked spring break starts that Monday so maybe students will stick around.
Xville
03-05-2019, 06:40 PM
This team is playing like absolute garbage...like they did before the streak.
kellernr
03-05-2019, 06:41 PM
How the hell does Jones let an Asian out jump him.
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MITTENMUSKIE16
03-05-2019, 06:41 PM
Tyrique has given up 2 offensive rebounds out of pure laziness. Can’t happen.
AviatorX
03-05-2019, 06:43 PM
Butler has knocked down some tough 3's. X is really going to have to punish them inside in the second half.
Xville
03-05-2019, 06:45 PM
Worst half they have had in three weeks but only down one possession. Hopefully they play a bit smarter in the 2nd half and bring this one home!
Being outrebounded by a much smaller team is inexcusable.
MITTENMUSKIE16
03-05-2019, 06:45 PM
Nice bucket by Q to end the half. Limit the turnovers, high hands for Jorgenson, pound the paint. I’d think about throwing that press at them again from time to time, they broke it at the last second.
AviatorX
03-05-2019, 06:47 PM
Worst half they have had in three weeks but only down one possession. Hopefully they play a bit smarter in the 2nd half and bring this one home!
Being outrebounded by a much smaller team is inexcusable.
I think Trav will pound that into them in the locker room. Let's fucking get this.
scoscox
03-05-2019, 06:47 PM
We’re getting outhustled big time. Butler had a good game plan and are playing desperate
bjf123
03-05-2019, 06:47 PM
Not a good half, though I’ll take being down 3 on the road. Can’t let them continue to out rebound us.
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Just heard today that the students will be on spring break for the game Saturday. That stinks.
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I have a buddy who picked up 5 tickets because they were so cheap. Taking the gang. I should set him up with a line of credit at Dana’s......we’re gonna need some NOISE!
bjf123
03-05-2019, 06:50 PM
Seriously? For senior day? Who in the xavier administration is the moron that scheduled spring break that week...
Just looked spring break starts that Monday so maybe students will stick around.
Let’s hope they stick around!
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Xville
03-05-2019, 06:53 PM
I hope the players realize how much this half means to their tourney hopes and play a lot harder and with more urgency. Outside of the first 5 minutes, that was a really bad half.
noteggs
03-05-2019, 06:53 PM
Where was Ty the first half?
Xavier
03-05-2019, 06:56 PM
I hope the players realize how much this half means to their tourney hopes and play a lot harder and with more urgency. Outside of the first 5 minutes, that was a really bad half.
I’m sure they are well aware of the importance of this game. Butler did a really good job making it tough to get ball inside. Over playing the pass to the bigs, hope Travis can find a way to get bigs more touches
AviatorX
03-05-2019, 06:58 PM
Guarantee after that first half this becomes a foul fest. Would be classic college officiating.
kellernr
03-05-2019, 06:58 PM
We were down 5 to butler at the half last game and won by 1. X will win by 3pts tonight
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kellernr
03-05-2019, 07:00 PM
Guarantee after that first half this becomes a foul fest. Would be classic college officiating.I agree. They were letting them get away with a lot of hand checks. Naji got dropped when the guy swung his elbows after the rebound and no call. Naji came down, stole it and drained a 3.
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noteggs
03-05-2019, 07:01 PM
Bench scoring is a problem. We were out scored 10-3 at half.
kellernr
03-05-2019, 07:05 PM
Hankins had naji open by a mile and chose to stand there with the ball. Scruggs with the dumbass pass and now najis hurt
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Quick 3’s from Q are insane.
bjf123
03-05-2019, 07:09 PM
Not liking this.
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kellernr
03-05-2019, 07:09 PM
Back to being an extremely undisciplined team again. Q with basically 2 turnovers with the horrible shot then bad pass. Jones looks lost and Scruggs is back to fouling like its his job.
Put harden back in and sit castlin down
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scoscox
03-05-2019, 07:10 PM
We’re still getting outhustled here. Time for Travis to earn his paycheck here
xudash
03-05-2019, 07:10 PM
Butler is not going to roll over and die. They want it more right now and it shows.
Our guys need to wake up and crank up the intensity and just take the life out of these guys.
bjf123
03-05-2019, 07:10 PM
Back to being an extremely undisciplined team again. Q with basically 2 turnovers with the horrible shot then bad pass. Jones looks lost and Scruggs is back to fouling like its his job.
Put harden back in and sit castlin down
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We’ve see this show before. I don’t like how it ends.
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MITTENMUSKIE16
03-05-2019, 07:14 PM
We’re going to either need Naji’s Ankle to get better or him to get out. We won’t be able to win with him incapable of getting to the lane.
MITTENMUSKIE16
03-05-2019, 07:16 PM
Also going to need Eli in for Castlin down the stretch I think
scoscox
03-05-2019, 07:16 PM
At some point we need to show more effort. Butler is just out working us
MITTENMUSKIE16
03-05-2019, 07:18 PM
What a string of events there. Two huge Welly shots, and that move by Naji. Bury them.
AviatorX
03-05-2019, 07:20 PM
I would bring Scruggs back now.
kellernr
03-05-2019, 07:20 PM
What a string of events there. Two huge Welly shots, and that move by Naji. Bury them.I think hankins was channelling Stainbrook with that touch pass to Welage
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“Good Naji” is awesome!
Let’s get more of that version.
kellernr
03-05-2019, 07:24 PM
Q really knows how to kill a teams momentum
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MITTENMUSKIE16
03-05-2019, 07:24 PM
After a nice pass to Hankins, two awful possessions by Q.
noteggs
03-05-2019, 07:27 PM
“Good Naji” is awesome!
Let’s get more of that version.
Yes sir!
kellernr
03-05-2019, 07:27 PM
After a nice pass to Hankins, two awful possessions by Q.I'm not sure it was a pass to hankins. I think that might have been a shot. ;)
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Naji and Q just can’t force so much stuff......
kellernr
03-05-2019, 07:30 PM
Naji and Q just can’t force so much stuff......But they will.
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X Factor
03-05-2019, 07:30 PM
Playing extremely lazy.
xudash
03-05-2019, 07:31 PM
Hello! McFly! You guys have about eight minutes to wake up and turn this around. You are being outplayed completely.
bjf123
03-05-2019, 07:31 PM
Naji and Q just can’t force so much stuff......
They’re back to playing like they were during the losing streak. Keep that up and we’re toast.
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kellernr
03-05-2019, 07:32 PM
Gotta get back to going inside. Refs are starting to call fouls sonpound it inside and get into the bonus and to the line
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kellernr
03-05-2019, 07:34 PM
Get harden off of juergenson
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MITTENMUSKIE16
03-05-2019, 07:34 PM
Jorgenson fucking killing us. Q gets bailed out on a should have been charge.
X Factor
03-05-2019, 07:35 PM
Q has been awful
MITTENMUSKIE16
03-05-2019, 07:36 PM
Get harden off of juergenson
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Honestly, he’s done pretty well for the most part on him. Jorgenson has made some crazy shots. But I agree, if Naji can guard him.
MITTENMUSKIE16
03-05-2019, 07:37 PM
That is a brutal carry call.
And Butler carries as soon as they put the ball in!
Unguarded.
bjf123
03-05-2019, 07:38 PM
And the turnovers continue.
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Xville
03-05-2019, 07:39 PM
Seriously just called that? Come on...that could be every single possession. Q is back to being pre streak awful q...selfish hero ball.
Xville
03-05-2019, 07:41 PM
Come on boys its winning time! Just not making the deep shot we need at the right time yet.
MITTENMUSKIE16
03-05-2019, 07:41 PM
Needed either Welly to pull the trigger or for the corner 3 for Scruggs to go in.
Xville
03-05-2019, 07:42 PM
Ugh...wish x had two more wins in their pocket right now.
bjf123
03-05-2019, 07:42 PM
Q is back to being pre streak awful q...selfish hero ball.
Naji, too. I think we’re going down.
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mistabeecee41
03-05-2019, 07:43 PM
Needed either Welly to pull the trigger or for the corner 3 for Scruggs to go in.
Q also had Ryan in the same spot at the top of the key when he went to Paul in the corner
Xville
03-05-2019, 07:45 PM
Missing every three we desperately need...6 of 21
MITTENMUSKIE16
03-05-2019, 07:45 PM
Game.
Game.
Don’t be a quitter!
MITTENMUSKIE16
03-05-2019, 07:48 PM
Don’t be a quitter!
I really, really want to be wrong.
Xville
03-05-2019, 07:48 PM
Ugh...what a step back by Baldwin...killer. just not playing the way we have won games the past few weeks.
Making FT’s would be nice......
MITTENMUSKIE16
03-05-2019, 07:50 PM
Nothing more Paul could do on either of those possessions.
Xville
03-05-2019, 07:50 PM
Freaking butler really going to take the at large hopes away? Damn
Xville
03-05-2019, 07:53 PM
Fucking Baldwin....so clutch tonight.
Well Saturday means nothing...that sucks.
bjf123
03-05-2019, 07:53 PM
Hear that sound? That’s our bubble popping.
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GoMuskies
03-05-2019, 07:54 PM
Well, THAT was a horseshit performance. Hopefully we can salvage the .500 conference streak and secure an NIT bid on Saturday.
HenryMuto
03-05-2019, 07:55 PM
That was some terrible basketball I just watched in the last 10 minutes. So many turnovers so many bad shots. The chance to make the NCAA tournament probably out the window now. Would likely need to make the Big East finals.
Xavier
03-05-2019, 07:55 PM
Goodin killed us tonight. Though not sure why Hankins never came back in.
Xuperman
03-05-2019, 07:56 PM
It's all good.....to much KB but X is CLASS!!!
X Factor
03-05-2019, 07:56 PM
Unfortunately, Goodin was really, really bad. 6 turnovers, most of them just really stupid.
GoMuskies
03-05-2019, 07:57 PM
Unfortunately, Goodin was really, really bad. 6 turnovers, most of them just really stupid.
And some shots that were really TOs.
Xville
03-05-2019, 08:00 PM
Really piss poor performance by our backcourt tonight. Q, naji were terrible.
Xavier
03-05-2019, 08:00 PM
Yep. Goodin was horrible. Dang
Backyard Champ
03-05-2019, 08:02 PM
Scruggs played well. Too bad he was in foul trouble. Coulda had that one
scoscox
03-05-2019, 08:02 PM
Needed to run through Paul tonight. It just did. We didn’t realize that until it was too late
scoscox
03-05-2019, 08:03 PM
If kyky is solid it’s gonna be really tough for q to hang onto his starting job next year. Our point guard play is awful. He has terrible instincts. Baldwin just absolutely embarassed him
Xville
03-05-2019, 08:03 PM
Anyone have a clue as far as the tiebreakers go that if x finishes 9-9, they are assured a top 4 seed?
MITTENMUSKIE16
03-05-2019, 08:03 PM
Just did not play well enough to win tonight. Baldwin and Jorgenson were fantastic, and we had no answer. We failed to build/sustain a lead in the first half when we played solid D. Q and Naji combine for 10 TOs. Q shoots 3-11 from the field.
OTRMUSKIE
03-05-2019, 08:05 PM
I think this is the team that X really is. They just arnt that good. Q looked awful again and way too many bad shots. X will have to win the beast now. You can’t lose to a last place team and expect to get in. Butler isn’t good at all. But we keep the non losing streak alive and hopefully NIT so there is always that. Well it was fun why it lasted. Next year can’t get here soon enough. But ill hold out hope for a miracle run in the beast but I just don’t see it. Oh well.
kellernr
03-05-2019, 08:05 PM
Just did not play well enough to win tonight. Baldwin and Jorgenson were fantastic, and we had no answer. We failed to build/sustain a lead in the first half when we played solid D. Q and Naji combine for 10 TOs. Q shoots 3-11 from the field.Naji should have been on Jorgenson the whole game with Q on Baldwin.
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Backyard Champ
03-05-2019, 08:07 PM
Big difference was they had the playmakers (Baldwin) who could get their shot up at the end of the shot clock. If Marshall doesn't get hurt, wenpotentially have that.
Goodin just isn't someone I want with the ball in their hands and 5-7 seconds left on the shot clock.
Xville
03-05-2019, 08:08 PM
I hope kyky pushes q next year because I'm really sick of his inconsistent play.
XUBison
03-05-2019, 08:09 PM
Unfortunately, Goodin was really, really bad. 6 turnovers, most of them just really stupid.
Must have hurt his shoulder and knee again. Only possible reason for his lazy passes, careless dribbling, poor shot selection, and terrible decision-making. Yeah, that’s it... gotta be the injuries. Only a clown would come to a different conclusion.
bjf123
03-05-2019, 08:10 PM
But we keep the non losing streak alive and hopefully NIT so there is always that.
That streak is on life support. We need to win Saturday to keep it going, and if we play like we did tonight, that ain’t happening.
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Final4
03-05-2019, 08:10 PM
Five steps forward and six steps back. Some of the dumbest fucking basketball I have ever witnessed.
xufan2020
03-05-2019, 08:11 PM
The RUN had the setback loss against Duquesne.. just saying
Muskeagle
03-05-2019, 08:12 PM
How the hell does Jones let an Asian out jump him.
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Admittedly, I'm in a shitty mood (team let the game get away from them; Fowler should have fouled out of that game in four minutes as he committed an offensive foul on EVERY screen he set; almost took Scruggs' head off on one play), but maybe we can avoid racist shit like this on our board. There is no place for it. It's not funny and totally unnecessary.
Xville
03-05-2019, 08:13 PM
That streak is on life support. We need to win Saturday to keep it going, and if we play like we did tonight, that ain’t happening.
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Do people really care about this stupid streak? If we arent in the tournament, who cares
bleedXblue
03-05-2019, 08:15 PM
I wish people would stop talking about the run............
Its hard to win on the road in the Big East. Especially when Baldwin is throwing shit up from everywhere and they are all dropping.
Yes, turnovers have been this teams achilles heal. We take care of the ball and rebound and we are hard to beat.
Season is not lost. Still have to win 3 more games........
bjf123
03-05-2019, 08:16 PM
Do people really care about this stupid streak? If we arent in the tournament, who cares
Yes, at least I care about the streak. If we make the tournament, we’re probably getting bounced the first game, or certainly the first weekend.
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HenryMuto
03-05-2019, 08:18 PM
Should have fouled again to put them at the line once they wasted 5 seconds and gave them another 30. They were in a 1 and 1 so go ahead try and get a steal and if not foul. They instead let another 30 seconds run off and once Baldwin hit the shot only 19 seconds was left.
You can't foul there in the back court when every second matters the 30 second shot clock resets if you do that. Had they fouled in the front court with 20 or more seconds left then the shot clock would have stayed at 20 or whatever it would been. Knowing the rules is half the battle.
In the end those 5 seconds were pretty important.
Blue Blooded-05
03-05-2019, 08:21 PM
The RUN had the setback loss against Duquesne.. just saying
I’d like our chances a lot better if we only had to beat St. Bonny, St Joes, GW and VD to get to the dance.
Xville
03-05-2019, 08:21 PM
Yes, at least I care about the streak. If we make the tournament, we’re probably getting bounced the first game, or certainly the first weekend.
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No disrespect but can I ask why? I'm assuming it is because before my time, being 500 or better in conference was something to celebrate at x. To me, it's just not something that is worth holding on to. I guess I can understand opposing views on it though
markchal
03-05-2019, 08:28 PM
We are just not a good team. But, the last few weeks proved we can be. It gives me a lot hope for next year seeing the defense we heard so much about finally showing up. Really wish we hadn't blown some real easy ones because the bubble is weak this year, but it's going to take a miracle for us now. I hope we can do enough to hold on to an NIT bid and use that to get some more quality PT for guys like Harden to develop.
xavierj
03-05-2019, 08:32 PM
I was at game and the defense was pretty good again. As mentioned too many turnovers and the missed wide Open 3 from Paul in corner were the game. Butler hit some tough contested shots all night. Naji wasn’t right either once he tweaked the ankle. Need to just win the next 4.
vee4xu
03-05-2019, 08:40 PM
Fire Steele. Enough is enough.
xukeith
03-05-2019, 08:45 PM
Good game. X should have won.
Now X needs to get to .500 for our never sub conference record.
Win 4 straight!
Fire Steele. Enough is enough.
Steele forged in fire makes it stronger, right?
AviatorX
03-05-2019, 08:46 PM
No disrespect but can I ask why? I'm assuming it is because before my time, being 500 or better in conference was something to celebrate at x. To me, it's just not something that is worth holding on to. I guess I can understand opposing views on it though
Finally found something the two of us 1000% agree on.
xukeith
03-05-2019, 08:49 PM
We are just not a good team. But, the last few weeks proved we can be. It gives me a lot hope for next year seeing the defense we heard so much about finally showing up. Really wish we hadn't blown some real easy ones because the bubble is weak this year, but it's going to take a miracle for us now. I hope we can do enough to hold on to an NIT bid and use that to get some more quality PT for guys like Harden to develop.
I think these past 6 games shows that X is a good team. Defense is great and our bigs are fantastic. Shooting is spotty but Marshall is amazing. Too bad there was a non conference X team. This one could do some damage. Now go ice Naji's foot and wear a boot. Need that foot 100% for SJU.
bleedXblue
03-05-2019, 08:50 PM
No disrespect but can I ask why? I'm assuming it is because before my time, being 500 or better in conference was something to celebrate at x. To me, it's just not something that is worth holding on to. I guess I can understand opposing views on it though
I think it speaks to the quality and consistency of the program. Nothing more and nothing less.
37 years is a damn long time.......
xukeith
03-05-2019, 08:50 PM
I wish people would stop talking about the run............
Its hard to win on the road in the Big East. Especially when Baldwin is throwing shit up from everywhere and they are all dropping.
Yes, turnovers have been this teams achilles heal. We take care of the ball and rebound and we are hard to beat.
Season is not lost. Still have to win 3 more games........
agree with hope but need 4 more wins.
vee4xu
03-05-2019, 08:53 PM
Steele forged in fire makes it stronger, right?
Actually, I was just busting balls.
GoMuskies
03-05-2019, 08:56 PM
I care about the streak. It's unique and says that even when we kinda suck, we're still pretty competitive.
Actually, I was just busting balls.
Which is what I assumed all along! I just couldn’t resist.
We all expected this to be a rough year. It could have been worse, as it appeared to be for a while. I have high hopes in the long term, despite my current disappointment.
bjf123
03-05-2019, 08:59 PM
I think it speaks to the quality and consistency of the program. Nothing more and nothing less.
37 years is a damn long time.......
This.
I care about the streak. It's unique and says that even when we kinda suck, we're still pretty competitive.
And this.
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markchal
03-05-2019, 09:00 PM
I think these past 6 games shows that X is a good team. Defense is great and our bigs are fantastic. Shooting is spotty but Marshall is amazing. Too bad there was a non conference X team. This one could do some damage. Now go ice Naji's foot and wear a boot. Need that foot 100% for SJU.
The last six showed we CAN be good, but we did just lose to a barely above .500 Butler team who is arguably the worst team in the conference. We didn't have anyone else step up when Naji went down, Castlin gives us nothing, and Harden had some growing pains. Let's just say this isn't a game any of us would expect to lose next year.
I care about the streak. It's unique and says that even when we kinda suck, we're still pretty competitive.
I agree with that 100%.
But I will have to live with it if we come up short. Hoping I never face that challenge!
jhelmes37
03-05-2019, 09:01 PM
I wouldn't lose sleep over it if the streak ended, but it's pretty damn cool, honestly.
To be the only team who can say 37 years of 500 or better is nice.
BUT the thing that stands out is that we jumped leagues - TWICE - and it's still in tact.
Dominating the MCC? Sweet, let's go to the A10. Still not a season under 500, eh?
Fast forward 20 or so years.
Dominating the A10? Sweet, let's go to the Big East. Still not a season under 500, eh?
No matter how you slice and dice it, that's pretty sweet.
scoscox
03-05-2019, 09:52 PM
The last six showed we CAN be good, but we did just lose to a barely above .500 Butler team who is arguably the worst team in the conference. We didn't have anyone else step up when Naji went down, Castlin gives us nothing, and Harden had some growing pains. Let's just say this isn't a game any of us would expect to lose next year.
The role players weren't the problem, they're role players for a reason. The problem was our primary players. 6 turnovers from the point guard kills the offense. Our point guard has to be able to run the offense
Although it'd be nice to have a little bit of depth.
xavierj
03-05-2019, 10:02 PM
The role players weren't the problem, they're role players for a reason. The problem was our primary players. 6 turnovers from the point guard kills the offense. Our point guard has to be able to run the offense
Although it'd be nice to have a little bit of depth.
Depth would be great but they don’t have it. Q had to play another 40 minutes and Naji 35 with a bum ankle. I think Q has tried to do too much all year and it has caused some issues. His heart is in the right place but needs to make better decisions. If he can slow down, take care of the ball and make open shots, Xavier will be tough to beat.
scoscox
03-05-2019, 10:11 PM
Travis deserves some blame for this loss as well. Butler had a good game plan against us and Lavall had them wanting it more and playing harder than our guys.
slysyl
03-05-2019, 10:14 PM
Lazy passes.
Hankens should of been in game last four minutes.
NIT vs Dayton at Cintas.
Need a good grad big recruit for next year.
Everybody work hard in off season ,and we'll be good again.
GO XAVIER.
GoMuskies
03-05-2019, 10:31 PM
They seed the NIT now, and Xavier and Dayton aren't going to be in a position to play each other. Xavier will probably be on the road.
OTRMUSKIE
03-05-2019, 10:35 PM
If you look at the NIT projections which is so depressing it shows X as a 3 seed and VD as a 4 seed. You better believe there is a possibility X will be a 4 and VD a 5 or vice versa.
OTRMUSKIE
03-05-2019, 10:37 PM
https://www.dratings.com/predictor/bracketology/
GIMMFD
03-06-2019, 12:27 AM
Today sucked, and Naji getting hurt isn't good. I'm hoping he's healed up by St. John's, he really brought a lot of energy and life into this team, and when he's not hitting on all cylinders, we look different. I'm proud of how they fought on the road, and how they've fought during these past few weeks. Turnovers are definitely our achilles heel, and Butler was very fired up on Senior Night. Credit to their game planning against us, it was smart and worked wonders. We'll see what this team is made of as we move forward. The season isn't over yet, and taking it one at a time should be the mission. Let's beat St. John's, extend the streak, and say screw it and win the Big East Tournament.
whopper
03-06-2019, 06:57 AM
in just watching the DVR(as I missed live but followed on phone) it is hard to see how we lost it. My "visual" is that we were slightly in control but I know that is deceiving. I see we had 15 turnovers, they had 10 but we had 2 steals and they had 11. I think a steal initiates offense and I look at Baldwin making tough shots and Jorgenson hitting some 3s in transition. That was the difference but Baldwin is a tough shot maker at Hinkle and not so much on the road from what I have seen. Lets hope Naj is better by Saturday and lets see what happens. damn
American X
03-06-2019, 08:35 AM
Honorary Lyft Driver Award - Zach Hankins for the touch passes out of the post
Honorary Steel Ballz Award - Naji Marshall for the steal out of nowhere then casually drilling a 25 footer
Cheer up, we will win the rest of them and get a bid. It could be worse. We could be Butler fans.
xufan2020
03-06-2019, 01:30 PM
Must have hurt his shoulder and knee again. Only possible reason for his lazy passes, careless dribbling, poor shot selection, and terrible decision-making. Yeah, that’s it... gotta be the injuries. Only a clown would come to a different conclusion.
Ok. Not to defend his play yesterday, but god forbid I stick up for the guy who’s been asked to play the most (even more than Naji) in this recent stretch of games at exhausting position. Kyky and Dahmir can’t come soon enough. I think if Naji and Q could get some more blows during games, these turnovers would go down.
XUBison
03-06-2019, 04:12 PM
Ok. Not to defend his play yesterday, but god forbid I stick up for the guy who’s been asked to play the most (even more than Naji) in this recent stretch of games at exhausting position. Kyky and Dahmir can’t come soon enough. I think if Naji and Q could get some more blows during games, these turnovers would go down.
Fair enough. :)
XUBison
03-06-2019, 04:16 PM
If you look at the NIT projections which is so depressing it shows X as a 3 seed and VD as a 4 seed. You better believe there is a possibility X will be a 4 and VD a 5 or vice versa.
X playing VD... in the NIT? Barf.
paulxu
03-06-2019, 05:04 PM
I started this thread.
Is there any way I can stop/close it?
paulxu
03-06-2019, 05:06 PM
Wait...there may be. At the bottom of this quick reply box is a "close thread" option.
I wonder if I should try it?
XfansinKy
03-07-2019, 11:49 AM
Bad hands
UCGRAD4X
03-08-2019, 11:54 AM
Wait...there may be. At the bottom of this quick reply box is a "close thread" option.
I wonder if I should try it?
Wait! I haven't commented yet.
Oh, I guess I have now.
paulxu
03-08-2019, 01:43 PM
OK, going to try it.
Maybe they let people who start a thread close it.
Assume everyone who wanted to comment on the Futler game have done so.
Here goes.
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