Harden Suspended Indef

[Muskie4106]

What the hell? This is unfortunate. Per Musketeer Report 24/7

[GoMuskies]

Excellent timing. For us, and particularly for him.

Will be interesting to hear what sort of dumb ass thing he did.

[Muskie4106]

https://twitter.com/RickBroering/status/1100812159494356993

[D-West & PO-Z]

FML, just as he was starting to turn it on some and our momentum was rolling. 7 deep is all we got.

[X-band '01]

Indications from the article are that he was suspended by the coaching staff - we'll have to see if he just broke a team rule recently or if something else was going on with him earlier in the year. The timing of it sucks, but this team has shown repeatedly that they can plow through adversity.

[Xville]

U gotta be effing kidding me.

[xu koop scoop]

With Harden out Castlin & Welage need to step to the plate. This is their last chance to shine. I bet they will

[OTRMUSKIE]

Well we can now play the Kenyon Martin defense. If Hardin didn’t get suspended we would have won the whole
Thing or in our case made the dance. Hopefully it was something stupid like pulling down his pants at Beer mug night.

[94GRAD]

I'm hearing he's sick. My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Elias pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.

[markchal]

wtf, this season. Just when we started to play with some fire and get some hope for the future.

[X-band '01]

By the same token, this might explain in part Harden's limited minutes from earlier this season. Something may have been festering with the coaches that finally reached critical mass.

[Juice]

By the same token, this might explain in part Harden's limited minutes from earlier this season. Something may have been festering with the coaches that finally reached critical mass.

I'm going to go with that he was just playing poorly at the beginning of the year.

[bleedXblue]

I'm going to go with that he was just playing poorly at the beginning of the year.

Exactly........if I had to guess, he's likely had his hand slapped already and this was a repeat offense.......if you know what I mean

[Caf]

This is less than ideal.

[bjf123]

Pure speculation. He either broke a major team rule, or is having academic issues. Whatever it is, we’ll probably never know.


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[muskiefan82]

Has anyone asked his girlfriend about her dog?

[X-band '01]

Shannon Russell is saying on Twitter that a) he was practicing yesterday and today and b) he'll just be suspended for the St. John's game.

That tells me that it wasn't too serious, but just enough to draw the line in the sand.

[XU 87]

I just hope he didn't steal his ex-girlfriend's dog.

[GoMuskies]

Well that's good. This St. John's game isn't that important anyway. It's not like we have some sort of 37 year-old streak on the line that a win at St. John's is critical to maintaining.

[markchal]

Shannon Russell is saying on Twitter that a) he was practicing yesterday and today and b) he'll just be suspended for the St. John's game.

That tells me that it wasn't too serious, but just enough to draw the line in the sand.

really? not seeing anywhere that it's only for one game.

[X-band '01]

https://twitter.com/slrussell/status/1100825535901564940

https://twitter.com/slrussell/status/1100826117580169217

[markchal]

oh good. Early reports all said indefinitely. We have a shot to win this without him, although I think this would be the one game over the next three we'd need him the most for.

[xudash]

Well that's good. This St. John's game isn't that important anyway. It's not like we have some sort of 37 year-old streak on the line that a win at St. John's is critical to maintaining.

You have the satire thingy down cold.

On that note, my take:

1. He finally gets meaningful playing time, having earned it during practice.

2. He gets it during a nationally televised game in a pact, high-octane Cintas Center.

3. He performs well.

He then goes "out" and celebrates "stupidly".


He seems to be a well mannered kid. He's good looking and certainly cares about his team and teammates - he was the one that walked down the court the longest with Tyrique after the knee incident. I just have to believe it was more "J.P. Macura'esque" and less "dog at risk", police horse hit", etc. oriented.

[scoscox]

good thing we have keonte kennedy...

[paulxu]

He's stepped off the bus.

[Nigel Tufnel]

I’d like a little more confirmation on whether it’s just the St. John’s game. Other major insiders are saying that he won’t be back until the BET.

[jhelmes37]

oh good. Early reports all said indefinitely. We have a shot to win this without him, although I think this would be the one game over the next three we'd need him the most for.

I hate the term "indefinitely" when describing this stuff. I hear that and I think "oh shit, he's gone", because that's what it sounds like.

When it really means "guy effed up and we'll let him back when we feel like it" and nothing more.

[bjf123]

I’d like a little more confirmation on whether it’s just the St. John’s game. Other major insiders are saying that he won’t be back until the BET.

I tweeted Shannon and asked. She said it’s just for this game.


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[muskies1235]

I tweeted Shannon and asked. She said it’s just for this game.


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I love Shannon, but I am almost positive she is wrong on this one.

[noteggs]

What else can go wrong this year? Stay tuned I guess

[scoscox]

https://media.giphy.com/media/l41YfykEffZ7QM55m/giphy.gif

my reaction to the harden news

[xu koop scoop]

Making a positive out of a negative. Castlin & Welages only had 13 minutes between them vs Nova Sunday. That could easily double or triple while Harden is out. Imagine you are Castlin or Welages. You are licking your chops for the chance to prove your worth. You have fire in your eyes. Malcolm Bernard recently spoke to your team & both Transfers are ready to let it loose. We have done well this year whenever key players are out. Steele & his staff have put down an iron fist & players are responding eagerly. 5 in a row coming Thurs nite

[muskies1235]

I've heard multiple people suggest a failed drug test and while the length of suspension some insiders are alluding to would jive with that it doesn't make sense to me for multiple reasons:

- Do schools in-season test their guys? Much less 90% of the way through? We typically see a rash of these suspensions during the preseason, but i don't receall seeing many 3 gamers during the season. I was always under the impression that since schools want these guys out there they test them preseason and that's it.

- You have to be a pretty big moron to fail a drug test these days, especially as a high major bball player. They're just not that hard to get by especially when you know they are coming.

[xavierj]

I've heard multiple people suggest a failed drug test and while the length of suspension some insiders are alluding to would jive with that it doesn't make sense to me for multiple reasons:

- Do schools in-season test their guys? Much less 90% of the way through? We typically see a rash of these suspensions during the preseason, but i don't receall seeing many 3 gamers during the season. I was always under the impression that since schools want these guys out there they test them preseason and that's it.

- You have to be a pretty big moron to fail a drug test these days, especially as a high major bball player. They're just not that hard to get by especially when you know they are coming.

They are supposed to be random. You can bet most of the time nowadays when you hear of a suspension during the season, there is a good chance it is a failed drug test.

[XU-PA]

To clarify, I asked Shannon if it was just one game.
Her response
"As of now that's what it is."

[MITTENMUSKIE16]

I've heard multiple people suggest a failed drug test and while the length of suspension some insiders are alluding to would jive with that it doesn't make sense to me for multiple reasons:

- Do schools in-season test their guys? Much less 90% of the way through? We typically see a rash of these suspensions during the preseason, but i don't receall seeing many 3 gamers during the season. I was always under the impression that since schools want these guys out there they test them preseason and that's it.

- You have to be a pretty big moron to fail a drug test these days, especially as a high major bball player. They're just not that hard to get by especially when you know they are coming.

Jalen had a suspension around this same time in his sophomore year I think. I don't see it being academics because of the timing, and I don't see it just being missing a meeting or anything b/c that's pretty hard to just skip a meeting. I think he'll be back soon enough. Hopefully forgive and forget and both parties move on without missing a beat. It says "coaches decision for violation of team rules." Idk if it'll be for Butler or the first round of BET, but I don't think it'll be anything very serious.

[IM4X]

my take:

He seems to be a well mannered kid. He's good looking and certainly cares about his team and teammates - he was the one that walked down the court the longest with Tyrique after the knee incident. I just have to believe it was more "J.P. Macura'esque" and less "dog at risk", police horse hit", etc. oriented.

Great point: This situation would make so much more sense if Harden happened to be ugly. But someone good looking??? It just doesn’t add up.

[GIMMFD]

What's the time table for a failed drug test by the way, just long enough until it's out of their system? I've always wondered that for something like marijuana.

[MITTENMUSKIE16]

When Jalen failed his test I wanna say it was 2-3 games. However, I remember early in the year when (I think) Naji and tyrique were suspended for “violation of team rules” and it was only one game. Hoping the same here.

[X-band '01]

Well, this is a thread turn I didn't expect!

I hope this doesn't become a chronic problem this season if that's the case.

[GoMuskies]

Jimmy the Greek, is that you?

Slaveowners bred their slaves to be able to smoke weed and still play basketball.

[paulxu]

This is particularly unfortunate given Steele's positive comments about him, and how he bought into what Steele said he had to do (and apparently did) to get more playing time.

[Xville]

This is particularly unfortunate given Steele's positive comments about him, and how he bought into what Steele said he had to do (and apparently did) to get more playing time.

I mean assuming it is an alcohol or smoking weed thing, it sucks he got caught, but hes a college kid. College kids do stupid things and drinking (as long as you dont then go drive) or smoking weed isnt the worst thing in the world.

[bjf123]

College kids do stupid things...

We tend to forget that. Let’s hope it was just something stupid.


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[noteggs]

What's the time table for a failed drug test by the way.

Don’t make me start to question your medical school credentials...

I kid of course

[xukeith]

SJU guard is questionable and did not practice today. He averages 14 ppg.
We will see if he plays a lot tomorrow.

[nuts4xu]

I hope this doesn't become a chronic problem this season if that's the case.

I see what you did here....

[OTRMUSKIE]

Ain’t nobody give a damn about any weed or week as the one poster called it. Weed is from the earth!!!!

[Muskie in dayton]

Jimmy the Greek, is that you?

Jimmy the Greek was the first victim of political correctness. He really was ahead of his time.

[sirthought]

Whoever this jackass is that sold weed in college, it's clearly affected his judgement, discretion, and ability to come up with a creative message board name.

[GoMuskies]

Whoever this jackass is that sold weed in college,

It was Hugh Jassole from Aurora, CO.

[bobbiemcgee]

He 's cheaper than the store's here.

[xufan2020]

SJU guard is questionable and did not practice today. He averages 14 ppg.
We will see if he plays a lot tomorrow.
Heron??

[XU 87]

I think one poster who claims to be "in the know" claimed that Steele has essentially lost control of this team and was allowing the players do what they want. This suspension seems to contradict that claim.

[X-band '01]

Heron??

He already missed the Seton Hall game, FWIW.

[GIMMFD]

When Jalen failed his test I wanna say it was 2-3 games. However, I remember early in the year when (I think) Naji and tyrique were suspended for “violation of team rules” and it was only one game. Hoping the same here.

Hmm, okay, I was curious about that, I feel like I never knew, thank you though!


Don’t make me start to question your medical school credentials...

I kid of course

Hahah you probably should, we have a clinical exam and I'm just hoping I don't kill the patient off.

[XfansinKy]

I hope this doesn't become a chronic problem this season if that's the case.

Sounds like the chronic is the chronic

[xukeith]

Remember the late 1980's and early 1990's when it was Gillen vs. Huggins. We X fans thought our guys were choir boys who went to classes and prayed every morning before meditating on Catholic Thomas Aquinas teaching. Huggs' Thuggs were evil.

With more money and winning, we are accepting these new things as fans even though it has always been the case.

[GoMuskies]

Huggins had guys torturing roommates and pushing pregnant women down steps. Not the same thing.

[sirthought]

Huggins had guys torturing roommates and pushing pregnant women down steps. Not the same thing.

:whistle: Pretty isolated. X has had guys do really dumb stuff as well. I'd say there's enough stupid happening amongst a certain percentage of college students that hoops fans don't need to point to other guys to exaggerate it even more.

[scoscox]

There’s doing dumb stuff and then there’s tying your roommate to a chair and trying to light him on fire.

Anyway the main difference between the two is that we always graduated our players and huggs seemed to not care about that in the slightest

[D-West & PO-Z]

Huggins had guys torturing roommates and pushing pregnant women down steps. Not the same thing.

HA, so true!

And when it comes to animal crimes, stealing a dog is more timid than punching a police horse if you ask me!

[XU 87]

Remember the late 1980's and early 1990's when it was Gillen vs. Huggins. We X fans thought our guys were choir boys who went to classes and prayed every morning before meditating on Catholic Thomas Aquinas teaching. Huggs' Thuggs were evil.

With more money and winning, we are accepting these new things as fans even though it has always been the case.

Child, please. Don't even attempt to compare X to the criminal activity that regularly took place at UC while Huggins was there. There was a reason a successful coach like Huggins was essentially fired from his job there.

And what exactly are we "accepting"?

[American X]

Did he kidnap a pug??? Was it another animal??? Was it animal related at all???

I knew this was coming. I'm just glad it is not a starter. I had my money on Goodin.

[SemajParlor]

Did he kidnap a pug??? Was it another animal??? Was it animal related at all???

I knew this was coming. I'm just glad it is not a starter. I had my money on Goodin.

Some of you fans are really odd.

[Blue Blooded-05]

Doesn’t Myles Davis have some eligibility left? Maybe we can call him up for 1 game.

[Cincypunk.org]

Doesn’t Myles Davis have some eligibility left? Maybe we can call him up for 1 game.

He went from being a favorite of mine to a player I hardly remember in an instant.

[OTRMUSKIE]

That girl of his that crushed his soul was smoking hot.

[GIMMFD]

That girl of his that crushed his soul was smoking hot.

I don't trust anything that bleeds for 5 days and doesn't die.

[UCGRAD4X]

I don't trust anything that bleeds for 5 days and doesn't die.

So once they go through 'the change' (the 2nd one) we can trust them again. The missus will be so glad to hear it. I've kept he on the short lease for these many years since.

[bjf123]

Anyone know if Elias will be back against Butler?


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[BMoreX]

Anyone know if Elias will be back against Butler?


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Adam Baum just reported that Steele said Elias will be back tomorrow.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Tomorrow is going to be tough. Butler is bruised right now but it’s still at their place. If they can pull this off tomorrow nothing is going to
Stop them. Not Flattop, not Suit, def not WOBLOW©️ Tomorrow will be our toughest test of the year due to what’s on the line. Man I hope I’m happy at 8:30 pm tomorrow.