Mick Cronin, classy as always

[SemajParlor]

Mick doing Mick things and always behaving like an adult.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/university-of-cincinnati/2018/12/06/mick-cronin-throws-shade-former-xavier-player-kerem-kanter/2231361002/

[noteggs]

Keep talking Mick and continue to allow your players talk about the game.

Between this ignorant statement and his players comparing this game preparation to Arkansas Pine Bluff.

Apparently, apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. Program well run Mick.

[xukeith]

I don't have Kanter's stats of last year BEFORE the Shootout but I do remember him being a non factor early in his season. And at the end he was huge.
Maybe that was what Mick was thinking scouting last year's game?

[D-West & PO-Z]

I have been following a lot of Xavier accounts on twitter, loving it, some real entertaining shit, especially now that it is shootout time. Guessing at least some of the accounts are posters on this board.

[xeus]

I don't have Kanter's stats of last year BEFORE the Shootout but I do remember him being a non factor early in his season. And at the end he was huge.
Maybe that was what Mick was thinking scouting last year's game?

Only matters what Mick was thinking when he made an ignorant comment about Karen Kanter.

Remember when Mick (a coach) tried to fight JP (a player)?

He's a fucking clown, who happens to have the courtesy to consistently remind us of that.

[RetireFiftyTu]

It really is baffling to me how Mick Cronin continues to say things like this. Does he have any sense of self-awareness? I mean the man is a complete tool. I don't know how UC fans support him. He's a solid coach (who is held back from being a good to great one by his own reluctance to change and adapt) and gets them to the tournament every year now but the attitude and demeanor he portrays is just awful. I don't know if UC could find someone better but I don't know if I would be able to put him with him if I was a UC fan. All that said I hope UC hands him a lifetime contract and he never leaves.

[xeus]

Hey Mick - go fuck yourself.

[bobbiemcgee]

Kerem Kanter
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Verified account

@KeremKanter
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Kerem Kanter Retweeted
1. Put some respect on my name
2. Clearly you didn’t do your job of scouting
3. You got #ZippedUp @CoachCroninUC
Keep it Classy Mick, you are better than that #LetsGoX


Haha - give it to 'em KK

[xeus]

2309

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[scoscox]

I don't have Kanter's stats of last year BEFORE the Shootout but I do remember him being a non factor early in his season. And at the end he was huge.
Maybe that was what Mick was thinking scouting last year's game?

Mick and UC fans seem to think this is some kind of excuse to not guard guys. Well, he's only averaging 6 points so lets just let him have open threes. It'd be hard to swallow a coach I cheer for making comments as dumb as this.

[X-band '01]

Hey Mick - go fuck yourself.

I never had a kid tell me to F myself 3 times before. You know who it was.


https://youtu.be/KAaQqSIkGUE?t=40

[kellernr]

Mick and UC fans seem to think this is some kind of excuse to not guard guys. Well, he's only averaging 6 points so lets just let him have open threes. It'd be hard to swallow a coach I cheer for making comments as dumb as this.Over on their board they are all trying to guess which player will light it up from 3 against them. I'm thinking Q finds his shot Saturday and drops 20+ on them. Then back to 1 of 8 from 3 for him the next game.

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[drudy23]

He is a terrible, terrible, terrible little man.

[BMoreX]

Genuinely a grade A moron

[bleedXblue]

He does himself no favors. Continues to say and do things that would make me cringe as a fan of the program. So glad he represents them. You can also see why he isn't getting looks at jobs like IU, OSU and UL.

[paulxu]

3. You got #ZippedUp @CoachCroninUC

Bump

[XUGRAD80]

While there are certainly delusional UC fans that find reasons to defend Cronin, believe me, there are many many others that feel that he has taken them as far as he can and he needs to be gone. Quite frankly, they are tired of his s**t and can’t understand why he is still here. One of the main things they can’t understand is how X pulls in the recruits they do and Mick never seems to get anyone near the caliber of the X recruits. On the other hand, those that defend him point to that and claim that despite not having great recruits they still get to the Tourney and win 20+ games every year, thus “proving” what a good coach he is.

The X fan in me hopes they keep him.

[Crosstown]

To be fair, Kanter was averaging 5 points a game coming into the Shootout and was exactly 0% 0-5 from 3.

[Lloyd Braun]

To be fair, Kanter was averaging 5 points a game coming into the Shootout and was exactly 0% 0-5 from 3.

I didn’t realize Kanter had zero film/stats from UW-GB.

[Crosstown]

I didn’t realize Kanter had zero film/stats from UW-GB.


The same UW-GB where he shot 27% from 3?

[muskiefan82]

Crosstown, please tell Mick that no one at X is after his lucky charms. He can calm down.

[paulxu]

The same UW-GB where he shot 27% from 3?

His last year at GB, he averaged 19 min/game, 11 pts and 6 boards. He shot 35% from 3.

He only made 2, 3 pointers against UC. You should have guarded Bluiett who had 28 pts.

[XU 87]

To be fair, Kanter was averaging 5 points a game coming into the Shootout and was exactly 0% 0-5 from 3.

He ended being our 3rd leading scorer. He shot 58% from the field and 33% from the three. He had 5 other games where he scored more points than what he did in the UC game.

Here is his game log:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/kerem-kanter-1/gamelog/2018

Before UC he had 15 against Hampton (in 14 minutes) and 12 against Arizona State (in 13 minutes). My recollection is that the 12 against ASU were all in the second half and kept X in the game. He was also 6-6 from the field that game. He also had 9 against Baylor (in 14 minutes), which was the game right before the UC game.

So your coach made yet another dumb ass statement and yet another statement making excuses. If he didn't think Kanter could score, then he did a shitty job of scouting. Be a man, admit as much, and don't say stupid shit that could be summarized as him saying: "That kid on the other team got lucky and had a career game. That's a big reason we lost."

[Crosstown]

His last year at GB, he averaged 19 min/game, 11 pts and 6 boards. He shot 35% from 3.

He only made 2, 3 pointers against UC. You should have guarded Bluiett who had 28 pts.


If thats the case hopefully Coach Steele is game planning and putting all his focus on Rashawn Fredericks who is averaging 4.0 points and 1.8 rebounds (pretty close to Kanters line last year before the Shootout) BUT was averaging 17.7 and 10.3 last year at Motlow State.

[Crosstown]

He ended being our 3rd leading scorer. He shot 58% from the field and 33% from the three. He had 5 other games where he scored more points than what he did in the UC game.

Here is his game log:

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/kerem-kanter-1/gamelog/2018

Before UC he had 15 against Hampton (in 14 minutes) and 12 against Arizona State (in 13 minutes). My recollection is that the 12 against ASU were all in the second half and kept X in the game. He was also 6-6 from the field that game. He also had 9 against Baylor (in 14 minutes), which was the game right before the UC game.

So your coach made yet another dumb ass statement and yet another statement making excuses. If he didn't think Kanter could score, then he did a shitty job of scouting. Be a man, admit as much, and don't say stupid shit that could be summarized as him saying: "That kid on the other team got lucky and had a career game. That's a big reason we lost."

His only two double digit games came in blowouts.

[Xavier]

If thats the case hopefully Coach Steele is game planning and putting all his focus on Rashawn Fredericks who is averaging 4.0 points and 1.8 rebounds (pretty close to Kanters line last year before the Shootout) BUT was averaging 17.7 and 10.3 last year at Motlow State.

Do you think coaches don't look to transfers previous years, especially early in the season, to scout them?

[SemajParlor]

Oh yeah Mick. Impossible , heavily contested shots! D1 players never make these shots!

https://www.facebook.com/XavierMusketeers/videos/highlights-kerem-kanter-goes-for-17-in-crosstown-shootout-win/10159745977235444/

[XU 87]

His only two double digit games came in blowouts.

If that's your analysis, then you're as dumb as your coach.

[XU 87]

If thats the case hopefully Coach Steele is game planning and putting all his focus on Rashawn Fredericks who is averaging 4.0 points and 1.8 rebounds (pretty close to Kanters line last year before the Shootout) BUT was averaging 17.7 and 10.3 last year at Motlow State.

No one is saying, other than you, that Cronin "should have put all of his focus guarding Kanter". But when a guy who has shown an ability to score actually does that in a game, don't come back later and make stupid statements equivalent to, "The guy had a career game against us."

Cronin's scouting report on Kanter apparently said, "Don't guard this guy. He can't score." He did a shitty job scouting. By the time of the UC game, I think this entire board knew Kanter had the ability to score, and score quickly. Maybe your coach should read this board to prepare for the XU game since he can't read stats or watch film adequately.

[Crosstown]

If that's your analysis, then you're as dumb as your coach.


My wife would agree Ha! Look I aint trying to get nasty or anything. Just trading a little Crosstown Shootout jabs for fun.

But none of you could convince me that if Rashawn Fredericks came in tomorrow after averaging 4 pts a game and went 6-8 on FG 2-2 from beyond the arc with 17 points that that would in Micks words wouldn't be a little "strange".

Heck I'm willing to bet most of you never even heard the name Rashawn Fredericks before I mentioned it.

[XU 87]

As to your first paragraph- fair enough. I'll keep things civil.

I don't know who Fredericks is. I would hope that the XU coaching staff does. But if he has already had two games where he has scored in double digits averaging a point a minute and shot 6-6 in one of those games, and if in his last game he scored 9 points in 14 minutes, the XU scouting report better not say, "He can't score. Don't worry about him."

And if the scouting report on him does say that, and he scores 17 points tomorrow, and he ends up shooting 58% from the floor and is UC's third leading scorer by the end of the year, I sure as hell don't want Coach Steele to say next year, "He can't score. He had a career day." In fact, I would want our coach to keep his mouth shut and privately say to himself and his staff, "How did we miss this? We did a terrible job scouting that player."

I would also want Steele to tell his staff, "When we scout a player wrong, and we realize this in the first half of the game, we need to change how we're going to guard that player instead of saying, "Well, this is what our scouting report says and we're sticking to it. I don't care what the facts now show us."

[ArizonaXUGrad]

My wife would agree Ha! Look I aint trying to get nasty or anything. Just trading a little Crosstown Shootout jabs for fun.

But none of you could convince me that if Rashawn Fredericks came in tomorrow after averaging 4 pts a game and went 6-8 on FG 2-2 from beyond the arc with 17 points that that would in Micks words wouldn't be a little "strange".

Heck I'm willing to bet most of you never even heard the name Rashawn Fredericks before I mentioned it.

This average 4 points a game crap only 9 games in is kind of stupid and short sighted. It doesn't take into consideration that all teams find their groove in the early games of the year. Most coaches look at trends and not averages. ASU last season is a classic example. Those three guards, they had were all shooting 42-45% from three early in the year. By the end of the year, they were all trending in the 33% range or lower. Why defend them the same as if their average was 40% for the year, but they were trending lower at the time. That is just goofy.

Good scouting coaches plan for what they expect the opponent is trending in their season to do but they also plan for the worst. I think Cronin is just searching for excuses because he is well aware his teams have underachieved in the NCAA tournament and fans are getting annoyed.

Even with Tyrique, this X team's strengths fall right in with UC's strengths on defense. Couple that with our poor 3 defense and patchy 2pt defense. I think it will be close but UC pulls it out. With no Tyrique, UC should win going away.

Cronin's statements are more a hedge than anything else. It's a rivalry game, guys get up for it, if a guy like Harden/Kennedy/Welage go nuts from three, Cronin has his excuse ready.

[American X]

Kerem Kanter put UC in a Turkish prison.

[throwbackmuskie]

My wife would agree Ha! Look I aint trying to get nasty or anything. Just trading a little Crosstown Shootout jabs for fun.

But none of you could convince me that if Rashawn Fredericks came in tomorrow after averaging 4 pts a game and went 6-8 on FG 2-2 from beyond the arc with 17 points that that would in Micks words wouldn't be a little "strange".

Heck I'm willing to bet most of you never even heard the name Rashawn Fredericks before I mentioned it.

You could name any other borecat outside of Cumberland, and I would have no clue who they would be. I think most people outside of uc are that way.

[xu82]

Mick just got tired of blaming his own players, so he tried blaming one of ours. It’s anybody but Mick, in his own twisted little mind. Look in the mirror, little fella.

[SemajParlor]

My wife would agree Ha! Look I aint trying to get nasty or anything. Just trading a little Crosstown Shootout jabs for fun.

But none of you could convince me that if Rashawn Fredericks came in tomorrow after averaging 4 pts a game and went 6-8 on FG 2-2 from beyond the arc with 17 points that that would in Micks words wouldn't be a little "strange".

Heck I'm willing to bet most of you never even heard the name Rashawn Fredericks before I mentioned it.

I think you're missing the point of a grown man head coach throwing a cheap shot at a kid who's not even there anymore for no apparent reason. He called him Enes Kanter's brother and said he never made shots. It's not the biggest deal in the world, just emphasizes how much of a clown he is.

[Juice]

My wife would agree Ha! Look I aint trying to get nasty or anything. Just trading a little Crosstown Shootout jabs for fun.

But none of you could convince me that if Rashawn Fredericks came in tomorrow after averaging 4 pts a game and went 6-8 on FG 2-2 from beyond the arc with 17 points that that would in Micks words wouldn't be a little "strange".

Heck I'm willing to bet most of you never even heard the name Rashawn Fredericks before I mentioned it.

This comparison/example is stupid. Kanter averaged 11.3 points the year before. You're ignoring his body of work at UW-GB in favor of 7 games before the UC game in which he had to earn PT and learn a new system, etc. He wasn't some freshman/sophomore who came out of nowhere. There was tape on him that showed what his skill set was. Had he shown it at X yet? No, but he wasn't some secret.

[Juice]

I think you're missing the point of a grown man head coach throwing a cheap shot at a kid who's not even there anymore for no apparent reason. He called him Enes Kanter's brother and said he never made shots. It's not the biggest deal in the world, just emphasizes how much of a clown he is.

He called him by the name of his brother who plays in the NBA? That Mick sure has the zingers.

[SemajParlor]

He 100 percent knows Kerem was his name. He was just being a dick.

[XU 87]

There was tape on him that showed what his skill set was. Had he shown it at X yet? No, but he wasn't some secret.

I'll disagree with on that one. Look at the tape of Hampton, ASU and Baylor, and he had already shown he could score, and score in bunches. My recollection is that he all but carried the team in the second half of the ASU game.

[xubrew]

Mick Cronin is tone deaf. I don't really think of him as classless as much as I think of him as just saying stupid things. I remember several years back (I forget the actual year) when he called out Memphis and Butler (I think) for playing in easy conferences and indicated that UC would dominate if they got to play in those leagues. The only problem was he said this after both those teams had beaten him earlier in the year.

Xavier has owned the Shootout for pretty much the last quarter century. About 20 years ago UC was the alpha program as far as where they landed on the national spectrum, but X still owned the series. Now that's flpped. X is the alpha program, and they still own the series. Until he strings together two or three wins in a row he really shouldn't be saying anything because he just looks like a fool.

As a coach, I actually think he doesn't get the credit he should for the job that he's done. I know I have to duck when I say that, but when he got there that program was a complete and total tire fire. Now they are routinely in the rankings and they finished the regular season in the top ten a year ago. But OMG they suck in March!!! Last year was one of the clearest paths that any team has ever had to the Final Four in the entire history of the tournament. They were up 22 points on Nevada, who only went six players deep due to injuries and had no frontcourt whatsoever. After that game their bracket would have consisted of a #11 seed and a #9 seed. They could have made the FF, and only had to beat ONE TEAM that was in the top half of the bracket, and they had a 22 point lead on that said team. They failed. I know X did as well, but X had made runs in the tournament before, and their path wasn't nearly as clear as UC's was. If they weren't able to do it last year, I question whether or not they ever will. So, maybe he should refrain from talking. Just don't talk. At all.

[XU 87]

Mick Cronin is tone deaf. I remember several years back (I forget the actual year) when he called out Memphis and Butler (I think) for playing in easy conferences and indicated that UC would dominate if they got to play in those leagues. The only problem was he said this after both those teams had beaten him earlier in the year.



I also remember about 10 years ago after UC lost the Shootout, Cronin was giving an interview after later playing Seton Hall in the old Big East and saying, "you think that Seton Hall team would be 7th in the A-10?"

One more- after Holloway scored 27 points in a double OT win at Cintas, Cronin commented afterwards, "We allowed a guy who can't go to his left to score 27 points."

The guy simply lacks the ability to say intelligent things when he speaks publiclly.

[scoscox]

One uc fan told me that “two other guys who can’t shoot went off” and mentioned rely abell and dee Davis. Two starters who shot 40% and 35% from three on their careers. Mick spreads the stupidity to the fans

[MHettel]

My wife would agree Ha! Look I aint trying to get nasty or anything. Just trading a little Crosstown Shootout jabs for fun.

But none of you could convince me that if Rashawn Fredericks came in tomorrow after averaging 4 pts a game and went 6-8 on FG 2-2 from beyond the arc with 17 points that that would in Micks words wouldn't be a little "strange".

Heck I'm willing to bet most of you never even heard the name Rashawn Fredericks before I mentioned it.

Big Deli. Look it up. We've been there.

[XUMIOH12]

Mick just got tired of blaming his own players, so he tried blaming one of ours. It’s anybody but Mick, in his own twisted little mind. Look in the mirror, little fella.

How's he gonna do that? Nobody wants to climb a ladder just to look in the mirror.

[MHettel]

As to your first paragraph- fair enough. I'll keep things civil.

I don't know who Fredericks is. I would hope that the XU coaching staff does. But if he has already had two games where he has scored in double digits averaging a point a minute and shot 6-6 in one of those games, and if in his last game he scored 9 points in 14 minutes, the XU scouting report better not say, "He can't score. Don't worry about him."

And if the scouting report on him does say that, and he scores 17 points tomorrow, and he ends up shooting 58% from the floor and is UC's third leading scorer by the end of the year, I sure as hell don't want Coach Steele to say next year, "He can't score. He had a career day." In fact, I would want our coach to keep his mouth shut and privately say to himself and his staff, "How did we miss this? We did a terrible job scouting that player."

I would also want Steele to tell his staff, "When we scout a player wrong, and we realize this in the first half of the game, we need to change how we're going to guard that player instead of saying, "Well, this is what our scouting report says and we're sticking to it. I don't care what the facts now show us."

And, why call attention to it NOW. He could at least argue, the day after the Shootout last year, that his team didnt emphasize scouting kanter. And lets say that was Kanter's best game of the year, and then he kind of disappeared after that....well then MAYBE you could say that his performance was out of context.

But kanter was a critical player on a #1 seed. Making that comment now, is just pure stupidity. Which is guess is par for Cronin.

[XU 87]

He has an innate ability to say really, really dumb things, which in turn, make him look whiney, petty and stupid. And he does it over and over and over again.

[xudash]

I would think that many staunch UC fans would never openly admit to disliking or not fully supporting Cronin. We would probably circle our wagons around our coach and by extension our program in the event we had this problem.

It is a clear problem. This guy is an absolute tool and there is no getting around that; there is no getting around how he comes off with respect to his manner and disposition, especially when the camera is on him during a game.

He had a real opportunity to repackage himself a little after his big health scare not too long ago. There was a certain and real amount of sympathy for him from all corners, including from Victory Parkway. But he blew it. He came back exactly as he was before.

I thank God we don't have an idiot like that on our sidelines, but, then again, I don't believe it's in Xavier's nature to ever consider someone like Mick Cronin for our HC.

The glass is nowhere near half-full with that guy, but to the extent it at least has a couple drops in it, you could conclude that it is a fact that no police horse has been punched under his watch, which is nice.

[bjf123]

He seems to have a pathological need to put down someone on the other team. He can’t accept that sometimes the other team is simply better than his team.


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[XU 87]

Big Deli. Look it up. We've been there.

And after that game, Big Deli made some comment about how he couldn't believe the way Xavier was guarding him.

[X-man]

I also remember about 10 years ago after UC lost the Shootout, Cronin was giving an interview after later playing Seton Hall in the old Big East and saying, "you think that Seton Hall team would be 7th in the A-10?"

One more- after Holloway scored 27 points in a double OT win at Cintas, Cronin commented afterwards, "We allowed a guy who can't go to his left to score 27 points."

The guy simply lacks the ability to say intelligent things when he speaks publiclly.

You have to remember that this is the same guy who thought it appropriate to challenge one of our players to a fight.

[XU 87]

You have to remember that this is the same guy who thought it appropriate to challenge one of our players to a fight.

Yea, I forgot about that. You don't see that very often. I think the last time I think I saw anything close to that was 1978 when Woody Hayes slugged the guy (and got fired).

[D-West & PO-Z]

Big Deli. Look it up. We've been there.

Ha, great reference.

[noteggs]

https://t.co/hyIQweU3m1?ssr=true

[xeus]

https://t.co/hyIQweU3m1?ssr=true

So great.

[D-West & PO-Z]

This guy tried to claim on twitter that UC used to dominate all the teams that stayed in the Big East. I had to set him straight:

https://twitter.com/TheRealBMac7/status/1071034644915806210

[Strange Brew]

Check my math but I think UC had a .375 winning % against X during their time in the BE (05-13). If I'm right they're lucky X was in the A-10 during that time.

[GIMMFD]

This guy tried to claim on twitter that UC used to dominate all the teams that stayed in the Big East. I had to set him straight:

https://twitter.com/TheRealBMac7/status/1071034644915806210

Body bags.


Check my math but I think UC had a .375 winning % against X during their time in the BE (05-13). If I'm right they're lucky X was in the A-10 during that time.

Lmfao UC fans will try anything, like hanging onto tournament wins before they were born in order to make a point. They can't understand the power shift in Cincinnati, it's cute really.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Body bags.



Lmfao UC fans will try anything, like hanging onto tournament wins before they were born in order to make a point. They can't understand the power shift in Cincinnati, it's cute really.

Guy claimed I was being biased in my stats because I looked at the entirety of their time in the Big East, I should have only looked at their time after their rebuild years lol.

[Juice]

Guy claimed I was being biased in my stats because I looked at the entirety of their time in the Big East, I should have only looked at their time after their rebuild years lol.

That dude changed the argument anytime you hit him with actual facts. It was a wild ride to watch him try to wiggle out of that one.

[paulxu]

They're favored by 7.
If they lose it'll be an epic meltdown.

[Strange Brew]

Are you telling me UC wouldn’t win the Big East? Yes Mick, u didn’t but if you want to see a BE conf champ banner there’s one 4 miles down the road..

You can do it even if it will take 12 hours with your tiny, tiny gnome legs.

[D-West & PO-Z]

That dude changed the argument anytime you hit him with actual facts. It was a wild ride to watch him try to wiggle out of that one.

Made my head hurt, ha.

[GIMMFD]

Guy claimed I was being biased in my stats because I looked at the entirety of their time in the Big East, I should have only looked at their time after their rebuild years lol.

When people know they are wrong, they try to come up with the most outrageous shit to seem like they are right, it's amusing to be honest.

[bleedXblue]

Guy claimed I was being biased in my stats because I looked at the entirety of their time in the Big East, I should have only looked at their time after their rebuild years lol.

So they lost a coach......BFD..........they call that rebuild? WTF? We lose coaches and move on and get better...........

[D-West & PO-Z]

So they lost a coach......BFD..........they call that rebuild? WTF? We lose coaches and move on and get better...........

In another arguement he claimed XU had stability in the coaching department.

Also that USF, UCF, Tulsa, Tulane, ECU were comparable to Providence, Seton Hall, Marquette, Georgetown

[Juice]

So they lost a coach......BFD..........they call that rebuild? WTF? We lose coaches and move on and get better...........

They are facing some adversity this year. They lost a coach as well...except their coach was lost to a federal assault conviction.

[bjf123]

In another arguement he claimed XU had stability in the coaching department.

Also that USF, UCF, Tulsa, Tulane, ECU were comparable to Providence, Seton Hall, Marquette, Georgetown

Uh, no.


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[Muskie in dayton]

In another arguement he claimed XU had stability in the coaching department.

Also that USF, UCF, Tulsa, Tulane, ECU were comparable to Providence, Seton Hall, Marquette, Georgetown

His resorting to name calling is a sure sign he’s lost the argument. Funny thing is in his mind he thinks he won. But deep down he knows he was absolutely abused by someone of far superior education, and it makes him hate “Eggsavier” even more.

Reps to you sir, and the other “morons” and “dumbasses” who weighed in.

[noteggs]

Guy claimed I was being biased in my stats because I looked at the entirety of their time in the Big East, I should have only looked at their time after their rebuild years lol.

My favorite of “rebuild” comment was when he said it’s hard to compare and perform with “jucos” on the roster.

Hmm. Didn’t UC ride the talents of three “juco” players (Van Exel, Jones and Blount) in 1992 when they made it to the final 4? Seems like that was a huge “rebuild” if you include a MAC transfer (Buford). Arguably the 4 best players and starters on that team. Seems like Mick has even trained the fans it’s not his fault - ever.

[Irishjohn68]

One of these days Mick is going to have a heart attack on the sidelines.

[slysyl]

One of these days Mick is going to have a heart attack on the sidelines.
Last Christmas Eve my one brother in law said to another brother in law , lay off of Mick he's a friend of mine ; and I'm still laughing. This Christmas Eve is going to be fun.

[GoMuskies]

I bet Mick was very gracious today. It's easy to be gracious when you kick the other guy's ass.

[bleedXblue]

I bet Mick was very gracious today. It's easy to be gracious when you kick the other guy's ass.

I wonder if he still wants to cancel the series or air things out in a press conference that never ever belong there in the first place unless you're a grade A dick.

[paulxu]

Mick should watch this so he learns how to lose graciously. (not holding my breath)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puqOfFyq47Y

[D-West & PO-Z]

Did you guys see Travis go after that UC player at the end of the game today trying to fight him?

Yeah, me neither....

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Why is it Cronin is only a little classy after wins and a petulant child after losses.


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[Strange Brew]

Mick should watch this so he learns how to lose graciously. (not holding my breath)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puqOfFyq47Y

You can tell he’s upset but composed. Hopefully this ends the players coach mentality. Good teams fear and respect their coaches.

[X-band '01]

I wonder what spurred Mick Cronin to get ejected against South Florida tonight.

[muskiefan82]

I wonder what spurred Mick Cronin to get ejected against South Florida tonight.

Maybe one of the USF players told him to eff off a few times...

[atljar]

I wonder what spurred Mick Cronin to get ejected against South Florida tonight.

I've watched exactly 2 UC games this year. The crosstown and last night's game.

One of the UC guys had relatively good position for a rebound and went straight up for it, there was some minor contact and the south Florida player hit the ground hard, mostly due to his poor angle going for the ball. UC called for the foul.

Mick flipped his shit and immediately got a T. He walked over to the scorers table where two refs were looking at the replay. The one kinda directed him back to his bench and coaches box. He took a half step back and then said something, and immediately was tossed.

Then the fireworks really started. Total meltdown where Cumberland (?) basically picked him up and carried him away from the refs. Pretty much a replay of the JP incident last year. #GreatTV #PissPoorCoach

[bleedXblue]

I've watched exactly 2 UC games this year. The crosstown and last night's game.

One of the UC guys had relatively good position for a rebound and went straight up for it, there was some minor contact and the south Florida player hit the ground hard, mostly due to his poor angle going for the ball. UC called for the foul.

Mick flipped his shit and immediately got a T. He walked over to the scorers table where two refs were looking at the replay. The one kinda directed him back to his bench and coaches box. He took a half step back and then said something, and immediately was tossed.

Then the fireworks really started. Total meltdown where Cumberland (?) basically picked him up and carried him away from the refs. Pretty much a replay of the JP incident last year. #GreatTV #PissPoorCoach

A slight correction. He didn't get tossed on the first T. He got tossed AFTER Cumberland and a few other UC players were pushing him back. He continued to argue whatever he was upset about and then got T'd up again and tossed.

The little man then went on a tirade in his press conference complaining about the referee(s) more. He knows once you get the first T, you need to cool if off or you'll get another one for sure. The man just isn't all that bright.

[paulxu]

I thought there were conference penalties for going after a ref in the press conference?

Edit: maybe that's pro football or something else.

[XU 87]

I've watched exactly 2 UC games this year. The crosstown and last night's game.

One of the UC guys had relatively good position for a rebound and went straight up for it, there was some minor contact and the south Florida player hit the ground hard, mostly due to his poor angle going for the ball. UC called for the foul.

Mick flipped his shit and immediately got a T. He walked over to the scorers table where two refs were looking at the replay. The one kinda directed him back to his bench and coaches box. He took a half step back and then said something, and immediately was tossed.

Then the fireworks really started. Total meltdown where Cumberland (?) basically picked him up and carried him away from the refs. Pretty much a replay of the JP incident last year. #GreatTV #PissPoorCoach

Mick said all he did was say "What?" and then put his hands up when he got the first T. You must have been seeing things.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/university-of-cincinnati/2019/01/15/first-time-uc-bearcats-head-basketball-coach-mick-cronin-thrown-out-game/2588898002/

[xubrew]

Actual footage of Mick Cronin last night!!....


https://media.giphy.com/media/B589UFuAWYytO/giphy.gif

[outsideobserver11]

Mick said all he did was say "What?" and then put his hands up when he got the first T. You must have been seeing things.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/university-of-cincinnati/2019/01/15/first-time-uc-bearcats-head-basketball-coach-mick-cronin-thrown-out-game/2588898002/

One of the people on press row right there did actually say that no curse words were said. Would be surprised if that's true, but if it is then it had to be some sort of personal attack he said.

Not to defend the guy, but multiple coaches in the AAC have gone off about the quality of reffing in the conference this year. Most just go about it in a much more civil manor than a temper tantrum.

[surfxu]

There's no doubt that I have more disdain for the yellow toothed gnome than I had for chuggins. He seems like such a horrible person. I wonder if refs are just tired of him and this may be the beginning of a more common occurrence. I believe there are consequences from the conference for saying things about the referees, depending what was said. That team is one injury to Cumberland away from being a cellar dweller in the AAC.

[xubrew]

I actually never did dislike Huggins. If I'm telling the truth, I kind of like him. Even when he was at UC I kind of liked him. He's a really good coach, and a lot of X fans may not believe it, but he actually does really care about his players and nearly everyone that ever played for him remains loyal to him.

I don't dislike Mick Cronin. He's actually done quite well throughout his career. But, he's just ridiculous. The reason I don't hate him is because I have a hard time not laughing at a grown man who throws a fit. It's so ridiculous that it's comical. He, and other coaches who do this, are basically slapping their players in the face when they act like that and get T'd up. How ridiculous is it that needing to be held back by his own players is a rather common occurrence?? I'm waiting for the day where one of his own players just decks him.

What if Mick Cronin were an attorney?? "Objection your honor." "Overruled" "WTF!!WAAAH!!WAHH!!AWAHHWAHH!!!!!!!"

What if Mick Cronin was a car salesman?? "I'm sorry, but I'd like to return this." "WTF!!WAAAH!!WAHH!!AWAHHWAHH!!!!!!!"

What if Mick Cronin waited until Christmas Eve to do all his shopping?? "I'm sorry sir, we're all sold out of that.""WTF!!WAAAH!!WAHH!!AWAHHWAHH!!!!!!!"

This is a man that does not handle minor adversity all that well. There just aren't many adults who behave like that. So no, I don't hate him. If anything I find him amusing. But GEEZ! He has the temperament and impulse control of a five year old. If a player acted like that they'd get thrown off the team.

[bleedXblue]

Since when is profanity the only reason why you would get t'd up?

He could have been arguing calls the whole game. Maybe the ref told him to knock it off. Who's knows......but rarely are technical's given without being deserved.....IMHO. Most refs are pretty tolerant and take quite a bit of harassing before they go there.......

[xuwin]

Mick said all he did was say "What?" and then put his hands up when he got the first T. You must have been seeing things.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/university-of-cincinnati/2019/01/15/first-time-uc-bearcats-head-basketball-coach-mick-cronin-thrown-out-game/2588898002/

You know it's never Mick's fault.

[MHettel]

I actually never did dislike Huggins. If I'm telling the truth, I kind of like him. Even when he was at UC I kind of liked him. He's a really good coach, and a lot of X fans may not believe it, but he actually does really care about his players and nearly everyone that ever played for him remains loyal to him.

I don't dislike Mick Cronin. He's actually done quite well throughout his career. But, he's just ridiculous. The reason I don't hate him is because I have a hard time not laughing at a grown man who throws a fit. It's so ridiculous that it's comical. He, and other coaches who do this, are basically slapping their players in the face when they act like that and get T'd up. How ridiculous is it that needing to be held back by his own players is a rather common occurrence?? I'm waiting for the day where one of his own players just decks him.

What if Mick Cronin were an attorney?? "Objection your honor." "Overruled" "WTF!!WAAAH!!WAHH!!AWAHHWAHH!!!!!!!"

What if Mick Cronin was a car salesman?? "I'm sorry, but I'd like to return this." "WTF!!WAAAH!!WAHH!!AWAHHWAHH!!!!!!!"

What if Mick Cronin waited until Christmas Eve to do all his shopping?? "I'm sorry sir, we're all sold out of that.""WTF!!WAAAH!!WAHH!!AWAHHWAHH!!!!!!!"

This is a man that does not handle minor adversity all that well. There just aren't many adults who behave like that. So no, I don't hate him. If anything I find him amusing. But GEEZ! He has the temperament and impulse control of a five year old. If a player acted like that they'd get thrown off the team.

Bob Huggins doesnt give a fuck about his players in any way outside of how they can help him win basketball games. He doesnt expect any type of academic or personal behavior excellence from them. he just wants them eligible, so he can use them.

Hes a piece of shit.

[xubrew]

Bob Huggins doesnt give a fuck about his players in any way outside of how they can help him win basketball games. He doesnt expect any type of academic or personal behavior excellence from them. he just wants them eligible, so he can use them.

Hes a piece of shit.

Yeah, a real piece of shit...

https://wvusports.com/news/2007/7/26/11106_131465898340138388.aspx?path=general

[ArizonaXUGrad]

My Huggins story is this.

I met him in a San Jose, Ca airport when he was coaching KSU. He was waiting at a gate adjacent to mine so I rolled up and gave him 5 seconds of trash talk about UC/XU rivalry then shook his hand. The guy took some time before his flight to tell me some stories about the games when I was in school. Being a coach and a minor celebrity, he still took time and we had some laughs about the crosstown games though I was just a fan.

I can't speak to anything else about the guy, but he was cool with this X grad.

[XUFan09]

Bob Huggins doesnt give a fuck about his players in any way outside of how they can help him win basketball games. He doesnt expect any type of academic or personal behavior excellence from them. he just wants them eligible, so he can use them.

Hes a piece of shit.This is bullshit. Huggins does care deeply about his players, and they care about him. Obviously a flawed man, but that doesn't mean everything about the guy is evil.

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[noteggs]

Yeah, a real piece of shit...

https://wvusports.com/news/2007/7/26/11106_131465898340138388.aspx?path=general

Cool story and did not know. Thanks for sharing!

[XUGRAD80]

Judging coaches based on what you see on the sidelines, hear in press conferences, or read in the papers and on the internet, is about as accurate as saying you know someone because of what they write on an internet fan forum.

Over on the UC board they are talking about how Xavier fans are obnoxious and delusional. Please don’t prove them right.

[94GRAD]

When a tough guy calls out tough guys


https://twitter.com/BrandonSaho/status/1085377585289277441?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1085377585289277441&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FBrandonSaho%2F status%2F1085377585289277441

[sirthought]

I saw the game. I'm inclined to believe Mick in this case. The calls in that game were head scratchers. He had every right to be asking for explanations and they didn't even want to extend that, probably because the call was so bad. That UC kid was going straight up and didn't touch the other player from what I saw. Mick knows what to say to get ejected, so I doubt he would go there if he didn't really want to leave the game. He shouldn't have acted like he's going to fight the guy or something, but he's got the right to ask why they got the call.

[XUBison]

Judging coaches based on what you see on the sidelines, hear in press conferences, or read in the papers and on the internet, is about as accurate as saying you know someone because of what they write on an internet fan forum.

Over on the UC board they are talking about how Xavier fans are obnoxious and delusional. Please don’t prove them right.

I think this is right. Frankly, I’d rather not give sUCk fans the satisfaction of thinking X fans give a flying flick about Mick or their mid-major basketball program, especially when we’re not even playing them. Just my two cents... But who am I to spoil anyone’s fun at sUCk’s expense?

[GIMMFD]

This is bullshit. Huggins does care deeply about his players, and they care about him. Obviously a flawed man, but that doesn't mean everything about the guy is evil.

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Yup, 100%. I am good friends with a guy who played for Huggins at WVU, he wasn't a star by any means, but got some solid playing time, and the narrative that he doesn't care about his players is false as hell. He genuinely took rooting interest in his guys, and he's come a long way from the "thugs" that he was recruiting at UC. They have an assistant coach go to each class all of the players are enrolled in, and do a check to see if they are there, and if they aren't, he runs their asses off for it. If you don't believe my accounts, here's one from Jevon Carter in a well written article, and that's coming from the best player on last year's team: https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/jevon-carter-memphis-grizzlies

My Huggins story is that he frequents the country club bar I drink at on breaks with friends, they do the Little General Golf Tournament there, and he is always present for that, in the past with Dana Holgorsen. Well, usually Huggins rents out a room of the restaurant/bar there (called Bunkers). A girl I was seeing at the time was there as the waitress for him and his party, the check was for a couple hundred dollars, and Huggins left a $1,000 tip. He also decided to open up the restaurant/bar area to everybody, and has done so for the past few years. He spends time there talking to the locals, each for a few minutes minimum. He's well received around the state, a large part being he's a WVU alum, but he's genuinely not bad. You can say he's an asshole, and has had a lot of questionable calls throughout his career, but I do whole-heartedly believe Bob Huggins is someone who cares.

[scoscox]

When a tough guy calls out tough guys


https://twitter.com/BrandonSaho/status/1085377585289277441?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1085377585289277441&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FBrandonSaho%2F status%2F1085377585289277441

I actually agree with Mick on that characterization of the refs, but it is a little ironic coming from him (insert spidermen pointing at each other gif (https://media.giphy.com/media/l36kU80xPf0ojG0Erg/giphy.gif))

[X-band '01]

Yesterday was just an appetizer in the American - both Dan Hurley of UConn and Frank Haith of Tulsa got a simultaneous ejection tonight. WTF?

[American X]

I actually never did dislike Huggins.

I don't dislike Mick Cronin.

You are asking to get banned.

[GoMuskies]

I always knew brew was into goat sodomy.

[drudy23]

Both Huggins and Cronin were/are so easy to hate.

Huggins has grown on me over the years. You can't deny he's a HOF coach. He's won everywhere.

I don't think I could ever find an ounce of respect for the leprechaun. He's the worst.