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Xuperman
12-05-2018, 08:46 AM
High School BB has started and I thought we could start posting stats/info about our 2019 class. I find it very difficult to find box scores on these guys. Does anyone know a good site for Kentucky HS scores? I was able to find something on KyKy. He scored 31 pts and was named MVP in the Hoopsfest tourney @ Marshall Co. Very interested in info on ZFree in Jersey. Hope you all will help mine for any info.

Xville
12-05-2018, 09:05 AM
I live here in KY and I find it hard to find box scores as well. I have found some success in the past just going to the school specific website or maxpreps.

One tournament to keep an eye on that KyKy is playing in is the King of the Bluegrass. It is a pretty decent local tournament every year with some D1 talent. The link to the bracket is below. Kyky could match up with Louisville Commit, David Johnson from Trinity in round 2. Both are favored to win their first game based on seed, but of course you never know with these things. Trinity is seeded #2 in the tourney, UH (KyKy's Team) is 7.

https://www.scribd.com/document/393383860/2018-King-of-Bluegrass-bracket#from_embed

I also just realized the Dieonte Miles' Walton-Verona is also in this.

Xuperman
12-05-2018, 09:18 AM
Yeah, I’ve spent about an hour digging with not much to show for it. It’s easy to find schedules on school websites. They sometimes post scores but no box scores. I see where Freemantle’s Bergman Catholic has not started playing yet. Daniel Ramsey’s Deerfield Windsor site lacks any individual stats and Dahmir Bishop’s Imhotep Institute is about the same.

Xuperman
12-05-2018, 09:31 AM
OK, MaxPreps is where it's at. I will post some numbers soon.

XMuskieFTW
12-05-2018, 09:40 AM
Yeah, I’ve spent about an hour digging with not much to show for it. It’s easy to find schedules on school websites. They sometimes post scores but no box scores. I see where Freemantle’s Bergman Catholic has not started playing yet. Daniel Ramsey’s Deerfield Windsor site lacks any individual stats and Dahmir Bishop’s Imhotep Institute is about the same.

Ramsey is at Norcross High School this year.

Xuperman
12-05-2018, 10:08 AM
http://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/dwon-odom/JQ4UY6-AEeaAdqA2nzwY6g/gendersport/basketball-stats.htm#year=18-19

Well MaxPreps is only as good as the people that upload the info. Lots of holes in coverage but here is some great stats on Dwon Odom....he’s killing it!

MHettel
12-05-2018, 12:04 PM
Odom, a 6'1" Point Guard, has more offensive rebound (8), than turnovers (7) this year.

His Assist (45) to Turnover (7) ratio is 6.4:1

Yes, Please!

Xuperman
12-05-2018, 12:53 PM
Odom, a 6'1" Point Guard, has more offensive rebound (8), than turnovers (7) this year.

His Assist (45) to Turnover (7) ratio is 6.4:1

Yes, Please!

Not to mention he is an ELITE SCORER....next coming of Jameer Nelson....absolute stud! Does anyone know anything about the possibility of him becoming eligible in 2019? If not, I fear that he will destroy the competition this year and re-open his recruitment.

XMuskieFTW
12-05-2018, 01:03 PM
Not to mention he is an ELITE SCORER....next coming of Jameer Nelson....absolute stud! Does anyone know anything about the possibility of him becoming eligible in 2019? If not, I fear that he will destroy the competition this year and re-open his recruitment.

Sounds unlikely. Maxpreps must also have old measurements too. He's 6'3.

GIMMFD
12-05-2018, 01:51 PM
Yeah, I’ve spent about an hour digging with not much to show for it. It’s easy to find schedules on school websites. They sometimes post scores but no box scores. I see where Freemantle’s Bergman Catholic has not started playing yet. Daniel Ramsey’s Deerfield Windsor site lacks any individual stats and Dahmir Bishop’s Imhotep Institute is about the same.

I didn't realize Dahmir Bishop was at Imohotep, they're pretty damn good in football as well, must be a fun place to attend as an athlete.


Not to mention he is an ELITE SCORER....next coming of Jameer Nelson....absolute stud! Does anyone know anything about the possibility of him becoming eligible in 2019? If not, I fear that he will destroy the competition this year and re-open his recruitment.

Odom is going to be salivating to watch, I really hope he stays committed to X, the thing is he's already what? Top 50? He could end up being a 5* when it's all said and done, which would be a big time pull for the staff if we can hold onto him. That's my fingers crossed wish.

IM4X
12-05-2018, 02:40 PM
High School BB has started and I thought we could start posting stats/info about our 2019 class. I find it very difficult to find box scores on these guys. Does anyone know a good site for Kentucky HS scores? I was able to find something on KyKy. He scored 31 pts and was named MVP in the Hoopsfest tourney @ Marshall Co. Very interested in info on ZFree in Jersey. Hope you all will help mine for any info.

Like your idea of starting this thread.

I live quite close to Fremantle’s school (Bergen Catholic). In fact, there is a good chance my son may go to that high school in a few years

Maybe I’ll look into taking him to a game there.

EastCoastXman
12-05-2018, 02:55 PM
I to am a North NJ guy. HS hoops starts on Friday 12/14. ZF will be playing in a hoop tourney at Caldwell College on 12/16. Will provide an update.

Most NJ sports can be found on the Start Ledger site (nj.com) or the Bergen Record. Happy to post any updates once the season gets rolling.

Xuperman
12-05-2018, 03:14 PM
Like your idea of starting this thread.

I live quite close to Fremantle’s school (Bergen Catholic). In fact, there is a good chance my son may go to that high school in a few years

Maybe I’ll look into taking him to a game there.

This is great. Doesn’t get any better than first hand scouting reports....you gotta take in a game AT Bergen Catholic! We have a poster (I forget his handle) that promised to scout Miles for us at Walton Verona.

XUGRAD80
12-05-2018, 05:13 PM
We have a poster (I forget his handle) that promised to scout Miles for us at Walton Verona.

And if you look under the thread...Deonte Miles commits....you will see both mine and others report from his 1st game

usfldan
12-05-2018, 08:28 PM
Most Kentucky schools report their stats at KHSAA.org. Walton-Verona has not yet this season, but did last year, so hopefully that will come soon. University Heights does seem to be keeping up. They are presented kind of oddly (not in a traditional box score format), but they are there.

Here are the links for Walton-Verona and University Heights, for those who want to keep up. Stat leaders throughout the state will eventually show up here (they still have 2017-18 for now): https://khsaa.org/sports/winter/boys-basketball/

Walton-Verona (Dieonte Miles)
https://scoreboard.12dt.com/scoreboard/khsaa/kybbk18/?id=80692

University Heights (KyKy Tandy)
https://scoreboard.12dt.com/scoreboard/khsaa/kybbk18/?id=80687

Tandy's stats so far:

Date Opp FGM-FGA 3PA-3PM FTA-FTMREB PTS
11/26 Murray 8-18 0-5 6-6 5 22
11/30 Callaway(MS) 11-23 5-12 4-5 7 31
12/1 Doss 8-15 2-6 3-5 5 21
12/3 Todd Co. Ctrl 8-17 0-4 7-8 8 23

EastCoastXman
12-10-2018, 02:09 PM
Zach Freemantle will open play with Bergen Catholic this Friday 12/14 against Paterson Eastside. We will take in his game on 12/16 at the Hoop Group Tipoff in Elizabeth. Always high level of competition and scheduled to play St Mary's Elizabeth at 3:30.

For those of you in warmer climates, Bergen Catholic will be competing 12/26, 28 and 29 in the Palm Beach Gardens tournament.

Some great competition in the Ranney Boardwalk Showcase on Jan 12th. Ranney has 2 top 100's (Byron Antoine - Villanova and Scottie Lewis FL)

Looks like stats will be on MaxPreps for those who want to follow. Help is on the way Boys!

bleedXblue
12-10-2018, 02:26 PM
Most Kentucky schools report their stats at KHSAA.org. Walton-Verona has not yet this season, but did last year, so hopefully that will come soon. University Heights does seem to be keeping up. They are presented kind of oddly (not in a traditional box score format), but they are there.

Here are the links for Walton-Verona and University Heights, for those who want to keep up. Stat leaders throughout the state will eventually show up here (they still have 2017-18 for now): https://khsaa.org/sports/winter/boys-basketball/

Walton-Verona (Dieonte Miles)
https://scoreboard.12dt.com/scoreboard/khsaa/kybbk18/?id=80692

University Heights (KyKy Tandy)
https://scoreboard.12dt.com/scoreboard/khsaa/kybbk18/?id=80687

Tandy's stats so far:

Date Opp FGM-FGA 3PA-3PM FTA-FTMREB PTS
11/26 Murray 8-18 0-5 6-6 5 22
11/30 Callaway(MS) 11-23 5-12 4-5 7 31
12/1 Doss 8-15 2-6 3-5 5 21
12/3 Todd Co. Ctrl 8-17 0-4 7-8 8 23


less than even average 3 pt shooting.......

Masterofreality
12-10-2018, 02:27 PM
Yeah. Dwon is 2020, so no help from him next year.
I just hope that the next two years of anticipated challenges doesn't make him change off. He won't be signing an LOI until at least a year from now.
We need that kid. And soon.

ArizonaXUGrad
12-10-2018, 03:35 PM
Tandy is a better three point shooter than 7/27. He is probably starting out slow. Bishop is more known for his outside shoot and seems like a better version of Harden. He is a bit quicker and more athletic.

Xcited
12-10-2018, 06:35 PM
Here's a link to a Ky High School basketball message board.
http://bluegrasspreps.com/ky-boys-basketball/
There's a thread with the final score for many games in the State but no box scores. Also a weekly thread with an update for most regions with some discussion on the best players. Walton Verona is in the 8th Region.

XMuskieFTW
12-11-2018, 11:22 AM
less than even average 3 pt shooting.......

Small sample size. He shot 49% from 3 last high school season.

MITTENMUSKIE16
12-11-2018, 10:27 PM
Maybe he’s an average three point shooter. But, sheesh. For your viewing pleasure (I hope this link works):

https://twitter.com/tdixonkne/status/1072670589918343168?s=21

bleedXblue
12-11-2018, 10:36 PM
Maybe he’s an average three point shooter. But, sheesh. For your viewing pleasure (I hope this link works):

https://twitter.com/tdixonkne/status/1072670589918343168?s=21

holy batman

MITTENMUSKIE16
12-11-2018, 11:16 PM
Another view from behind the rim... word is he cut his chin ON THE RIM.

https://twitter.com/dedraadler/status/1072704569073954816?s=21

scoscox
12-12-2018, 02:00 AM
The kid he yammed on is 7'2"

sirthought
12-12-2018, 04:55 AM
It's appears like his elbow is level with the rim. That is a super high jump.

Lloyd Braun
12-12-2018, 07:55 AM
I’ve replayed it maybe 7500 times from all angles... makes me giddy. Also looks like an official timeout was called due to people rolling/spilling onto the floor.

Xville
12-12-2018, 07:59 AM
I can't freaking wait until that kid steps on campus...he's got a huge chip on his shoulder and we need players like that back on xavier's roster...its been way too long.

nuts4xu
12-12-2018, 08:36 AM
I can't freaking wait until that kid steps on campus...he's got a huge chip on his shoulder and we need players like that back on xavier's roster...its been way too long.

CJ Anderson agrees....

noteggs
12-12-2018, 08:46 AM
The kid he yammed on is 7'2"

Looked a bit passive on that play. No seriously, how does a 6’1” kid dunk on a kid 7’2” like that and hit his chin on the rim. CRAZY!

Xuperman
12-12-2018, 10:54 AM
Just got back from Walton-Verona’s opening game against Dixie Heights.

Miles didn’t really dominant the game, but he did show some flashes of talent and potential, especially in the 2nd half as WV pulled away. In the first half he was getting pushed around pretty good by a smaller Dixie team that was constantly double and even triple teaming him, and his teammates weren’t really looking for him.

He is really thin, but he moves extremely well. He is a lefty with a nice left handed hook/push shot over his right shoulder. In the pregame shoot around he showed ability to shoot the 3, but it’s kind of a push shot from down low. He didn’t try any in the game. I think he was 3-4 in foul shots and showed a decent rotation there. Had a couple of blocks, a stick back dunk off a miss, a drive down the lane with his right hand followed by a dunk, and a drive the length of the court followed by a lay-in. Not sure what his scoring and rebounding statistics ended up being. They have some decent players and turned DH over a lot, so it’s not a one man show by any means. Like I said, he moves well and didn’t seem to get tired. WV is a team that tries to push the ball on offense and he was going up and down the court with no problems. Not a power player, more of a finesse type player right now. Needs to work on his strength and gaining some weight. Also needs to work on his hands. Fumbled the ball while rebounding more than once. There were some other Xavier fans there, sitting behind me, and I’m sure that others were there as well. I’d like to here their take also. I game away hopeful and encouraged. I think he can develop into a really good player.

Miles will most certainly be a “project” and should redshirt for multiple reasons. To be a Senior playing against some questionable competition, he is in no way tearing it up. The box scores for his first 5 games are now available on the KHSAA site. Scored only 3 pts going 1-5 in his 5th game vs Anderson Co.....only 6 in the game prior. Nothing special rebounding the ball either. Would love to see how many minutes he’s getting because these numbers are puzzling for a high D1 recruit.

Xuperman
12-12-2018, 11:14 AM
I to am a North NJ guy. HS hoops starts on Friday 12/14. ZF will be playing in a hoop tourney at Caldwell College on 12/16. Will provide an update.

Most NJ sports can be found on the Start Ledger site (nj.com) or the Bergen Record. Happy to post any updates once the season gets rolling.

On the other hand, ZFree will be BEast ready based on the reputation he’s made for himself in Jersey. Kid evidently has some nasty in him and plays with a lot of passion. Good size already at 6’9” and could even see him growing a little more, and you know he will add muscle weight under Jennings.....Can’t have enough Blue Collar type guys that thrive on the dirty work! Really looking forward to your scouting report ECXM. By the way, my twins were born in Newton, NJ.....beautiful country!

bleedXblue
12-12-2018, 11:25 AM
On the other hand, ZFree will be BEast ready based on the reputation he’s made for himself in Jersey. Kid evidently has some nasty in him and plays with a lot of passion. Good size already at 6’9” and could even see him growing a little more, and you know he will add muscle weight under Jennings.....Can’t have enough Blue Collar type guys that thrive on the dirty work! Really looking forward to your scouting report ECXM. By the way, my twins were born in Newton, NJ.....beautiful country!

Sean O'Mara 2.0 ?

Xuperman
12-12-2018, 11:32 AM
Hard to say if that will be a fitting comparison. Word is, he’s a lean mean fightin’ machine....apparently MUCH more athletic than Sean. I don’t think Zach is a back to the basket player like Sean either. What I have read on him is that he is a versatile scorer with good rim to rim speed. Hopefully we’ll get some first hand info soon.

MITTENMUSKIE16
12-12-2018, 12:03 PM
Doesn't seem to be in the mold of Sean. Skilled, but not necessarily in a back to basket style (though it seems he's okay at doing that). Seems to have a really good face up game, and good jumper extending to the three point line. Not bouncy, but very functional athleticism, coordination, touch. From what I've seen, he's capable of maybe facing up, putting the ball on the floor for one to two dribbles, getting to the rack.

Honestly, I think he and Ramsey will play really well together, and I think Ky Ky and Bishop will also play really well together.

This is a ways away, but if you surround Tandy and Odom with three capable shooters with adequate length for each spot... it's going to be wow.

Xuperman
12-12-2018, 12:17 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tZjEyPscW7U

Was curious and found some video. Looks like he loves the paint, so he’s got some Sean in him but brings a lot more to the table. Got a nice mid range game and good footwork....he can really run the floor!

scoscox
12-12-2018, 02:33 PM
Miles will most certainly be a “project” and should redshirt for multiple reasons. To be a Senior playing against some questionable competition, he is in no way tearing it up. The box scores for his first 5 games are now available on the KHSAA site. Scored only 3 pts going 1-5 in his 5th game vs Anderson Co.....only 6 in the game prior. Nothing special rebounding the ball either. Would love to see how many minutes he’s getting because these numbers are puzzling for a high D1 recruit.

I thought the same thing about Jaxson Hayes last year. He played a pretty small role at Moeller, but has been dominant at Texas

scoscox
12-12-2018, 02:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq8YXwyqeWc

he looks impressive here

EastCoastXman
12-13-2018, 11:19 AM
Bergan Catholic switched to the big Hoop Group Tourney in Elizabeth for Dec 14, 15 and 16. Montverde has 2 games and most of the high profile NJ private schools are also in. Very good competition. This will be a good test for our boy Zach. Trying to get there for the 3:30 tip. Report to follow.

Will be at the Pru Center Saturday for the NJ version of The Shootout (Seton Hall vs Rutgers). I was at Cintas December 2017 for the UC game and hard to imagine that any venue and fan base could be better than ours. With the win over KY last weekend at MSG, beat Rutgers at home and an upcoming road game at Maryland, SHU has a chance to break into top 25.

I am booked in to Cintas with my closest friend (SHU Grad) for the January 2 contest against the Pirates. I believe we have the SHU team seats right behind the bench. I will be the guy with the X gear on (Haha). I will be in Willard's ear all night like JP!

bleedXblue
12-13-2018, 11:22 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq8YXwyqeWc

he looks impressive here

uhhh... ...that's playing against so very low level competition

scoscox
12-13-2018, 11:57 AM
Impressive potential, not necessarily

ArizonaXUGrad
12-13-2018, 12:31 PM
uhhh... ...that's playing against so very low level competition

If he got it anywhere near the net it was a dunk. That other team didn't have a chance if Miles didn't put it on the ground.

xufan02
12-13-2018, 06:16 PM
Sean O'Mara 2.0 ?

No, more like Matt Howard from Butler.

Xuperman
12-15-2018, 03:43 AM
Freemantle scored a team high 15 pts in a blowout season opener last night.....could find nothing more specific. Dahmir Bishop scored 17 Thursday in a win that included 3 triples. He has a beautiful high release and nice rotation. Hit 1 each from BOTH corners and scorched the net with a deep one from the top of the key. Had 5 boards, 6 assists and a couple of steals to go with the points. He is fast and physical....built like a NFL running back. Video available on MaxPreps.

Xuperman
12-15-2018, 05:06 AM
Tandy's University Heights team travels to Evansville for the Bosse Classic today. Was reading the tourney preview and it mentioned KyKy scored 37 pts in a 80-79 regional barn burner victory over Madisonville Thursday night to remain 6-0. Again, I couldn't find any specific stats on the game. Between Tandy and Bishop, earning minutes backing up Paul and Q next fall will be intense, as KK and Elias will most certainly be hotly challenged by these two!!

xufan02
12-16-2018, 09:23 AM
Tandy had 44 points last night in a win. If you have time to kill and you want a good laugh, go over to the Kentucky message board. They think since Quade Green left that Tandy is going to UK now.

xukeith
12-16-2018, 09:50 AM
Tandy had 44 points last night in a win. If you have time to kill and you want a good laugh, go over to the Kentucky message board. They think since Quade Green left that Tandy is going to UK now.
Wonder if all his scoring and carrying his team will allow him to PASS the ball next year as he will be new to D1 levels and college basketball speed. 2020 recruits (commitments) are even better.
X hopefully has 3 NBA first rounders over next 5 years.

Xuperman
12-16-2018, 10:57 AM
Tandy had 44 points last night in a win. If you have time to kill and you want a good laugh, go over to the Kentucky message board. They think since Quade Green left that Tandy is going to UK now.

This is not a laughing matter. To lose KyKy under any circumstances would be a hard pill to swallow. I don’t know how one can get out of a signed LOI, but if determined to do so, Tandy’s dad and Calipari will find a way. Calipari is not much of a coach but he is a very shady but effective recruiter. I put NOTHING past him and the power/influence of UK.

My other BIG CONCERN is if KyKy continues to destroy all competition, there is that new G League deal and the 125K paycheck that goes with.

X-man
12-16-2018, 11:03 AM
Tandy had 44 points last night in a win. If you have time to kill and you want a good laugh, go over to the Kentucky message board. They think since Quade Green left that Tandy is going to UK now.

On the UK Rivals board at least, there seems to be near universal agreement that (1) Tandy is coming to Xavier, (2) Tandy isn't good enough to be other than a bench player of UK, and (3) Tandy is therefore better off coming to X.

Xuperman
12-16-2018, 11:10 AM
On the Rivals board at least, there seems to be near universal agreement that (1) Tandy is coming to Xavier, (2) Tandy isn't good enough to be other than a bench player of UK, and (3) Tandy is therefore better off coming to X.

TOTALLY disagree with ANY notion that he’s “not good enough”.....what does that even mean? Guy has scored 114 pts in his last THREE and might be the only HS kid with stitches on his chin from a collision with a basketball RIM.

Xuperman
12-16-2018, 11:28 AM
TOTALLY disagree with ANY notion that he’s “not good enough”.....what does that even mean? Guy has scored 114 pts in his last THREE and might be the only HS kid with stitches on his chin from a collision with a basketball RIM.

Not to mention, he could be considered exceptional in almost all statistical metrics. Can’t say he’s not physically ready or not tall enough. You could only question the competition he plays against.

xukeith
12-16-2018, 11:31 AM
Not to mention, he could be considered exceptional in most all statistical metrics. Can’t say he’s not physically ready or not tall enough. You could only question the competition he plays against.

Remember all the hype of Brad Redford and Kenny Frease videos?
They were immortal hyped recruits made into legends then got smacked hard against D1 players.
Be Careful.

Xuperman
12-16-2018, 11:44 AM
Remember all the hype of Brad Redford and Kenny Frease videos?
They were immortal hyped recruits made into legends then got smacked hard against D1 players.
Be Careful.

The legend of the “Stitches” is already Immortalized!

noteggs
12-16-2018, 03:53 PM
Tandy had 44 points last night in a win. If you have time to kill and you want a good laugh, go over to the Kentucky message board. They think since Quade Green left that Tandy is going to UK now.

Highlights from the game. Nice outside threat we definitely need.

https://t.co/ZbAasB2Rhu?ssr=true

MITTENMUSKIE16
12-16-2018, 07:44 PM
So some kid named Corey Girton just posted on Instagram that he has committed to Xavier. Literally no idea what year/position anything. But kyky must know him because he's excited about it...

muskienick
12-16-2018, 08:38 PM
He's a 6'2" or 6'3" point guard from the little I was able to find out about him. He, like KyKy, plays his High School ball in Kentucky (someplace called North Bullitt H.S.). If this is true, it's strange that we haven't heard something official from the University unless he hasn't submitted his LOI yet. It's also strange timing for such an announcement --- the early LOI submissions ended on November 21 and the regular submissions are supposed to come in from April 17, 2019 to May 15, 2019. Why would he announce now and why haven't we heard more about this player from our regular sources (247, etc...)?

GoMuskies
12-16-2018, 08:45 PM
North Bullitt is essentially Louisville.

AviatorX
12-16-2018, 09:06 PM
He's a 6'2" or 6'3" point guard from the little I was able to find out about him. He, like KyKy, plays his High School ball in Kentucky (someplace called North Bullitt H.S.). If this is true, it's strange that we haven't heard something official from the University unless he hasn't submitted his LOI yet. It's also strange timing for such an announcement --- the early LOI submissions ended on November 21 and the regular submissions are supposed to come in from April 17, 2019 to May 15, 2019. Why would he announce now and why haven't we heard more about this player from our regular sources (247, etc...)?

Seems pretty certain he’s not actually committing to be a scholarship basketball player.

X Factor
12-16-2018, 09:35 PM
Is this the guy?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHmMQ8BtOYs

Juice
12-16-2018, 09:45 PM
He's a 6'2" or 6'3" point guard from the little I was able to find out about him. He, like KyKy, plays his High School ball in Kentucky (someplace called North Bullitt H.S.). If this is true, it's strange that we haven't heard something official from the University unless he hasn't submitted his LOI yet. It's also strange timing for such an announcement --- the early LOI submissions ended on November 21 and the regular submissions are supposed to come in from April 17, 2019 to May 15, 2019. Why would he announce now and why haven't we heard more about this player from our regular sources (247, etc...)?

Maybe a preferred walk-on?

X Factor
12-16-2018, 09:52 PM
Maybe a preferred walk-on?

I don't know. We'll have to wait and see if there's an announcement or something.

I think he had a broken wrist or something and didn't play at all during the summer (limiting his exposure?).

The highlights I've seen of him, he appears to be a high level athlete that can get to the rim and finish above it.

Could this is be a complete hidden gem that Steele uncovered?

noteggs
12-16-2018, 10:08 PM
I don't know. We'll have to wait and see if there's an announcement or something.

I think he had a broken wrist or something and didn't play at all during the summer (limiting his exposure?).

The highlights I've seen of him, he appears to be a high level athlete that can get to the rim and finish above it.

Could this is be a complete hidden gem that Steele uncovered?

This guy did not commit

bobbiemcgee
12-16-2018, 10:08 PM
Listed as a "sleeper" here:

https://www.prephoops.com/2018/08/kentuckys-biggest-sleepers-2019-class/

Like the nickname

GoMuskies
12-16-2018, 10:14 PM
Nice film, although a highlight video with a guy that size that does not show a made shot from more than 2 feet away should probably be a bit of a red flag.

X Factor
12-16-2018, 10:14 PM
This guy did not commit

Huh, why would he make a commitment video? Very strange. Oh well.

X Factor
12-16-2018, 10:15 PM
Nice film, although a highlight video with a guy that size that does not show a made shot from more than 2 feet away should probably be a bit of a red flag.

Sounds like our current roster except for Scruggs.

GoMuskies
12-16-2018, 10:21 PM
This guy did not commit

Someone go tell whoever it is that is controlling his Instagram account!

noteggs
12-16-2018, 10:55 PM
Someone go tell whoever it is that is controlling his Instagram account!

That would be wise.

xu82
12-16-2018, 11:00 PM
Someone go tell whoever it is that is controlling his Instagram account!

Are you trying to deny a HS boy his sexy?

Xuperman
12-17-2018, 05:49 AM
https://cityofpalmsclassic.com/teams/imhotep-charter-school/

Dahmir Bishop’s Imhotep Charter is playing in the prestigious City of Palms Classic. The field is loaded, as usual, with National Ranked teams and HIGH D1 talent. Bishop is a pre-tourney 3rd team selection. Should be interesting to see how Bishop fares against top talent....he’s been a real stat stuffer so far, along with shooting a fantastic deep ball against Philly competition.

Xuperman
12-17-2018, 06:48 AM
https://cityofpalmsclassic.com/teams/imhotep-charter-school/

Dahmir Bishop’s Imhotep Charter is playing in the prestigious City of Palms Classic. The field is loaded, as usual, with National Ranked teams and HIGH D1 talent. Bishop is a pre-tourney 3rd team selection. Should be interesting to see how Bishop fares against top talent....he’s been a real stat stuffer so far, along with shooting a fantastic deep ball against Philly competition.

Looking at the schedule, Imhotep is destined to meet University School in the 2nd round Thursday evening. University features Duke commit Vernon Carey Jr the #1 player in the country per Rivals. They also have the top Junior in Scottie Barnes. Both are front court guys, so look for Bishop to have good success on the perimeter.

EastCoastXman
12-17-2018, 11:03 AM
Link to weekend action for Zach Freemantle (#32). His Bergen Catholic team (#5 ranked in NJ) took down #14 St Mary's Elizabeth 77-75 in the Hoop Group event. Zach went for 23 pts and 13 rebounds.

https://twitter.com/jsz_sports/status/1074530217614548992?s=11

scoscox
12-17-2018, 11:42 AM
https://twitter.com/TriStateIntSpts/status/1074687152041144320

Dieonte miles was conference player of the week with 21, 9, and 5 averages over two games

Xuperman
12-17-2018, 12:00 PM
Sounds like all of our commits are off to strong starts. Quality of competition is somewhat suspect for Miles playing in Rural Kentucky, as he’s going to tower over most of his opposition. On the other hand, Bergman Catholic has a lot of big BIG public schools and private academies on it’s schedule. Did ZFree go up against any other D1 talent on that SME team? If you can EASTCOAST, let us know when Zach plays other guys signed to play D1 next year.

XUGRAD80
12-17-2018, 12:39 PM
Miles team..Walton-Verona HS is not all that rural. It’s actually just south of Florence, Ky and only about 25 miles south of downtown Cincinnati. They play plenty of the schools in northern Kentucky. Now, I’m certainly not saying that the NKY (or Ky on the whole) level of competition is equal to the bigger schools in Cincinnati or northern Ohio, but it’s not just a bunch of backroad hicks playing on outside courts with peach baskets either. But because their may be only 1 or two high schools per county, outside of the Lexington, Louisville, or NKY areas of the state, most of these schools also use the weekends to travel to metro areas and play in mutiteam events where they can get 1-2 games against good competition. Still, his numbers do need to be looked at carefully and with an understanding that the competition isn’t always the same as what one may see everywhere.

EastCoastXman
12-17-2018, 05:53 PM
ZF will be in the Palm Beach Gardens Tournament during Xmas week. Not sure of the level of competition. Jan 1 Bergen Cath is scheduled against Gill St Bernard. Paul Mulcahy is a Rutgers commit. GSB is always a top 20 NJ team. Ranney School Boardwalk Showcase is 1/12. Ranney has 2 D1's Lewis (FL) and Antoine (Nova). They were ranked #1 in NJ but lost opener in the Hoop Group Tournament. They also have games with other top 20 teams - Don Bosco Prep (1/17 and 2/14) Montclair Immaculate (1/30) and a home date with The Patrick School on 2/5 (This should be a great game - Patrick School always top 5 - former home of Kevin Boyle of Montverde). Should be plenty of great competition to get a good feel for ZF. All these schools have D1 prospects and commits.

Xville
12-18-2018, 09:56 AM
uhhh... ...that's playing against so very low level competition

So, Miles will be playing a little bit closer to his talent/height level Thursday night for those interested

http://www.kingofthebluegrass.com/

He will be facing Isaiah Cozart who is committed to WKU and is a shot blocking machine (career leader in shots blocked in KY). Ill be interested to see how he does against that kind of competition.

The real highlight for this tournament for me though will be seeing Tandy play. Friday night he could be playing against Trinity and Louisville Top 50ish recruit, David Johnson. I should be in attendance and report back.

Muskeagle
12-18-2018, 11:19 AM
Does any know if any of the recruits are involved in the Flyin' to the Hoop Tourney in Kettering during MLK weekend?

Xville
12-18-2018, 11:32 AM
Does any know if any of the recruits are involved in the Flyin' to the Hoop Tourney in Kettering during MLK weekend?

As far as commits, no. There are some guys in the 2020 class that Xavier has at the very least talked to but they are top 20ish recruits so i don't think they are realistically looking at Xavier anymore.....Spire Academy and Huntington Prep kids.

Xuperman
12-18-2018, 12:24 PM
I am going to try and go for 1 session this weekend. Want to check out KYKY!

Xuperman
12-18-2018, 12:29 PM
So, Miles will be playing a little bit closer to his talent/height level Thursday night for those interested

http://www.kingofthebluegrass.com/

He will be facing Isaiah Cozart who is committed to WKU and is a shot blocking machine (career leader in shots blocked in KY). Ill be interested to see how he does against that kind of competition.

The real highlight for this tournament for me though will be seeing Tandy play. Friday night he could be playing against Trinity and Louisville Top 50ish recruit, David Johnson. I should be in attendance and report back.

Miles and Walton Verona will have their hands full. They are in the lower bracket with 3 BIG TIME out of state programs, Brentwood TN, South Shore NY and South Miami Senior. Those 3 are bunched together, so only 1 will make the Saturday night winners bracket semi’s. I don’t think WV can win it’s first 2 and get there, but they will probably face 1 of the 3 on the losers side. I am hoping Tandy and University Heights can win 3 in a row and Play for the championship.....Would love to see him play Brentwood on Sunday night!

Xville
12-20-2018, 08:22 AM
Miles and Walton Verona pulled off the upset last night against Madison Central and will now play Ballard in the Quarters....the recap is here though they are having issues with Box Scores momentarily

http://www.kingofthebluegrass.com/

Kyky plays tonight and with a win would play Louisville signee, David Johnson and Trinity tomorrow night. Trinity is arguably the best team in the state...

Box score is now up...miles had 9 points going 1/1 from 3 pt land. Haven't had a chance to watch him in person but looking at the box score wondering if he plays more outside than inside? His 3 rebounds and 4 assists lead me to believe that may be the case. For those who have seen him play, can you confirm?

So excited to watch kyky play...just by looking at highlights the guy really seems to have a bit of tu in him but honestly may be more athletic (doesnt mean he will be as good a basketball player).

XUGRAD80
12-20-2018, 08:54 AM
When i saw him play v Dixie Heights he was almost exclusively at the low post. However, he did get a rebound and bring it all the way up the floor for a layup one time. Saw him shooting some 3 pointers in warmups, but never in the game.

Xville
12-20-2018, 09:00 AM
When i saw him play v Dixie Heights he was almost exclusively at the low post. However, he did get a rebound and bring it all the way up the floor for a layup one time. Saw him shooting some 3 pointers in warmups, but never in the game.


Thanks! Interesting....I wonder how Steele and staff see him at the next level? He is obviously going to be a project and will need to put on a lot of weight even if he plays out. It will be interesting to see him play against Ballard...they are a Louisville team that is always pretty strong and are very well coached. Kelan Martin (Butler) and Quentin Snyder (Louisville) recently played there and Allan Houston played there back in the day.

GoMuskies
12-20-2018, 09:26 AM
Don't forget Dejuan Wheat! And the notorious Dion Lee (Google him up if you want an interesting story).

Xuperman
12-20-2018, 10:07 AM
Looking at the schedule, Imhotep is destined to meet University School in the 2nd round Thursday evening. University features Duke commit Vernon Carey Jr the #1 player in the country per Rivals. They also have the top Junior in Scottie Barnes. Both are front court guys, so look for Bishop to have good success on the perimeter.

https://cityofpalmsclassic.com/schedule/
Bishop showed nothing special statistically in a 1st round blow out Tuesday. As expected, they play University School tonight. He and his teammates will have to be hitting on all cylinders to have any chance at the upset. Vernon Carey Jr totally dominated in his opener....looks like he’s gonna be special!!

Xville
12-20-2018, 10:56 AM
https://cityofpalmsclassic.com/schedule/
Bishop showed nothing special statistically in a 1st round blow out Tuesday. As expected, they play University School tonight. He and his teammates will have to be hitting on all cylinders to have any chance at the upset. Vernon Carey Jr totally dominated in his opener....looks like he’s gonna be special!!

I dont know how good bishops team is but the team university beat in the first round was vashon who is no slouch...they have at least 2 d1 players, one going to mizzou next year and they got smoked.

noteggs
12-20-2018, 01:08 PM
Thanks! Interesting....I wonder how Steele and staff see him at the next level? He is obviously going to be a project and will need to put on a lot of weight even if he plays out. It will be interesting to see him play against Ballard...they are a Louisville team that is always pretty strong and are very well coached. Kelan Martin (Butler) and Quentin Snyder (Louisville) recently played there and Allan Houston played there back in the day.

As you probably know, Ballard has been a power for awhile. The late seventies had some great talent. Jeff Lamp and Lee Raker led Virginia to final 4 in 1981 while Jerry Eaves helped Louisville win championship in 1980. All played at Ballard while Lamp and Eaves played in NBA.

Xville
12-20-2018, 09:42 PM
Going to take a comeback for tandy's team to advance...down 10 at half...only scored 16 points the first half. Yikes.

Xuperman
12-21-2018, 05:09 AM
Tandy’s line is a bit curious. 19 pts 1 rebound 1 assist.

Xuperman
12-21-2018, 05:24 AM
https://cityofpalmsclassic.com/schedule/
Bishop showed nothing special statistically in a 1st round blow out Tuesday. As expected, they play University School tonight. He and his teammates will have to be hitting on all cylinders to have any chance at the upset. Vernon Carey Jr totally dominated in his opener....looks like he’s gonna be special!!

Imhotep pulled the upset but Dahmir Bishop was not a factor. In fact, it looks like he got injured. He started the game but played only 12 minutes and did not score. Fouls weren’t an issue. Hoping his coach benched him for something or he got hold of some bad shrimp. Otherwise injury would be the only other explanation.

Xville
12-21-2018, 05:40 AM
Tandy’s line is a bit curious. 19 pts 1 rebound 1 assist.

Agreed...lost by 11...wondering if tandy has very little around him. He does play in hopkinsville after all, not exactly a metropolis.

XUGRAD80
12-21-2018, 07:14 AM
Agreed...lost by 11...wondering if tandy has very little around him. He does play in hopkinsville after all, not exactly a metropolis.

Bluegrasspreps has had them ranked 3rd in the state. But it is a very small private school, much smaller than many of the other schools listed in the top 10. Lexington Christian was ranked 7th. W-V is ranked 8th in the same poll. That’s two top 5 teams going down to lower ranked teams this week. Only 3 weeks into the season, so expect more to change.

Xville
12-21-2018, 07:18 AM
Kypreps had them ranked 3rd in the state. But it is a very small private school, much smaller than many of the other schools listed in the top 10. W-V is ranked 8th in the same poll.

Interesting...maybe just a bad game, or maybe just a bit over ranked. Lexington Christian is a decent squad, but I bet trinity beats them pretty easily...maybe I'll be proven wrong.

GoMuskies
12-21-2018, 07:32 AM
University Heights is small, but they recruit.

XUGRAD80
12-21-2018, 08:03 AM
University Heights is small, but they recruit.

Yep...PRIVATE school, not a county or community school. But they also aren’t like a Oak Hill Academy or one of the other well known prep schools/basketball factory/military schools. They are a K-12 schools with only a few hundred students in all of those grades combined. They have had some good players go through that school over the years, but they don’t play a national schedule and still mostly compete against other Kentucky high schools. Basketball is the #1 sport in Kentucky, and it’s certainly #1 at that school, but that doesn’t mean they are going to be just a basketball school. In other words, there is recruiting, and then there is RECRUITING. They are in the former camp, not the latter.

XUGRAD80
12-21-2018, 08:06 AM
Interesting...maybe just a bad game, or maybe just a bit over ranked. Lexington Christian is a decent squad, but I bet trinity beats them pretty easily...maybe I'll be proven wrong.

That wouldn’t be a surprise, as Trinity is ranked 2nd. Scott County is ranked 1st.

But these rankings are only through week 3/Dec. 17th....still very early in the season and there are still 16 undefeated teams across the state.

Xville
12-21-2018, 08:12 AM
Just saw this interesting factoid...KyKy is first cousins with Scotty Hopson who was a Top 5 national recruit and had a pretty darn good career at Tennessee averaging over 15 pts per game with dirty Bruce Pearl. Scotty also attended University Heights

Xuperman
12-22-2018, 08:53 AM
Miles not sharp in loss to Ballard. Only 6 pts 2 boards...2-7 from the line. They get the prestigious Brentwood Academy Saturday. Tandy’s team slipped by LaRue in the consolation bracket but no box score. In Florida, Bishop’s Imhotep throttled perennial National power Oak Hill Academy BUT he did not play. As suspected, he must have gotten hurt Thursday but getting any official info is like finding hen's teeth!

Xville
12-22-2018, 11:05 AM
Bishops team must be absolutely sick. Who are the d 1 players on the team?

Also in kentucky as expected trinity destroyed Lexington Christian by 35...Tandys team must be very meh especially considering they barely beat larue county.

XUGRAD80
12-22-2018, 11:19 AM
LaRue is ranked 5th in the state

Xuperman
12-22-2018, 11:26 AM
Bishops team must be absolutely sick. Who are the d 1 players on the team?

Also in kentucky as expected trinity destroyed Lexington Christian by 35...Tandys team must be very meh especially considering they barely beat larue county.

Dahmir Bishop’s sidekick is 6’6” Maryland signee Donta Scott. They have another guy going to Binghamton. This Bishop situation is not good. Must be something serious keeping him out because this tourney is one of the most prestigious in the country. Hope to see him back today....they are playing for the Championship!

noteggs
12-22-2018, 11:49 AM
Dahmir Bishop’s sidekick is 6’6” Maryland signee Donta Scott. They have another guy going to Binghamton. This Bishop situation is not good. Must be something serious keeping him out because this tourney is one of the most prestigious in the country. Hope to see him back today....they are playing for the Championship!

Bishop left during first half of the University School game with an ankle injury. Not sure of the severity.

Xuperman
12-22-2018, 11:51 AM
http://www.maxpreps.com/news/BR4Sx39i00C5d_fIwFj6jA/city-of-palms-classic-quarterfinals-produce-pair-of-massive-upsets.htm

Mystery solved....Bishop suffered “nasty ankle sprain” in Thursday’s game.

sirthought
12-23-2018, 05:15 AM
While I want Bishop to play well and improve, I'm okay if he sits out as many games as he needs. We've got him signed and it's better that he heals than forcing something.

Xville
12-23-2018, 07:29 AM
After losing their first, uh and kyky have won their last two and will play in the consolation championship today at 3. Unfortunately have not gotten box scores for the last two games.

Lloyd Braun
12-23-2018, 07:47 AM
After losing their first, uh and kyky have won their last two and will play in the consolation championship today at 3. Unfortunately have not gotten box scores for the last two games.

Here (https://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/preps/kentucky/2018/12/22/king-bluegrass-madisonville-north-hopkins-tops-lexington-christian/2384041002/) is a brief recap. KyKy with 36. They play at 3pm today.

Xuperman
12-23-2018, 08:19 AM
While I want Bishop to play well and improve, I'm okay if he sits out as many games as he needs. We've got him signed and it's better that he heals than forcing something.

He didn't start but he played 19 minutes. He was ineffective and their luck ran out.....they were scorched in the Championship game.

Xville
12-23-2018, 08:19 AM
Here (https://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/preps/kentucky/2018/12/22/king-bluegrass-madisonville-north-hopkins-tops-lexington-christian/2384041002/) is a brief recap. KyKy with 36. They play at 3pm today.

Thanks! Evanston is going to be pretty darn tough but we shall see!

Juice
12-29-2018, 01:27 AM
If you want some Dieonte Miles highlights in a blowout win

https://twitter.com/FOX19Joe/status/1078884916002213888

Xuperman
12-30-2018, 11:13 AM
https://m.facebook.com/HBCPalmBeaches/posts/

Freemantle and Bergen Catholic easily beat McCracken Co Ky to win the Holiday Classic in Palm Beach last night. McCracken was previously unbeaten and ranked #15 in Ky. Looks like Zach posted nice numbers throughout the 3 games. The tournament had a real local flair....Steve Gentry and Deer Park was there and had a good showing. Scott Co Ky won the girls championship.

xavierj
12-30-2018, 01:59 PM
Tandy has a good game last night, scoring 34 and had 7 rebounds in a win against a pretty good Landsdown Va. team.

Xville
12-30-2018, 09:01 PM
So freaking excited to see tandy in an x uniform next year. Kid is freaking legit.

xavierj
12-30-2018, 11:25 PM
UH and Tandy beat a decent Newport, KY team by 30 tonight to win Lexington Catholic holiday tourney.
Some Tandy highlights. He is good.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4HIGYfFZRoA

Xuperman
12-31-2018, 02:41 AM
Man, that’s fun to watch. Really cool to see him sporting the Xavier Tee in the pre-game and introductions. Looks like his LOI is safe for now!

Kid has some Sumner in him. Moves silky smooth through the lane but would like to see him finish more with his left hand. Hey, it looks like his peach fuzz covers up that nasty scar. I was thinking if things go south for us this year, “Remember the chin” can be our battle cry.....has a nice ring to it!

xukeith
12-31-2018, 09:29 AM
Fun to watch. His driving and drawing fouls reminds me of ...gulp... Tu Holloway.

If he can get a deadly outside shot, that would be awesome.

drudy23
12-31-2018, 09:55 AM
I see swagger and no fear in his eyes. You can see it.

JP, from day one, had no fear. I love these kind of recruits.

MITTENMUSKIE16
12-31-2018, 11:05 AM
Man, that’s fun to watch. Really cool to see him sporting the Xavier Tee in the pre-game and introductions. Looks like his LOI is safe for now!

Kid has some Sumner in him. Moves silky smooth through the lane but would like to see him finish more with his left hand. Hey, it looks like his peach fuzz covers up that nasty scar. I was thinking if things go south for us this year, “Remember the chin” can be our battle cry.....has a nice ring to it!

Has the athletic ability of Ed, for sure. Obviously not nearly as long, but he's a better shooter and better ball handler. Xavier PGs the last handful of years have missed somebody who absolutely has the ball on a string. Tandy's ball handling seems to be at that level, which allows him to handle lots of on ball pressure. Looking forward to him and the rest of the class getting to campus.

X Factor
12-31-2018, 01:20 PM
Xavier PGs the last handful of years have missed somebody who absolutely has the ball on a string. Tandy's ball handling seems to be at that level, which allows him to handle lots of on ball pressure.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcqjgKmKtgc

xufan02
01-01-2019, 09:51 AM
Dahmir Bishop led his team to at 68-66 OT win last night.

Watch "Imhotep vs Kennedy Catholic (Play-By-Play Scholastic)" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/6tkIHEWtT0w

Xuperman
01-01-2019, 10:33 AM
Dahmir Bishop led his team to at 68-66 OT win last night.

Watch "Imhotep vs Kennedy Catholic (Play-By-Play Scholastic)" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/6tkIHEWtT0w

I wouldn’t say he “led” them in anything. Just watched the game and you get a much different perspective than highlight vids. Dahmir was in no way the focal point of the offense......looked like he was the 4th option. Didn’t see much on the ball defense from him or rebounding to speak of, nor did he appear to facilitate the ball much.

He got almost all his touches roaming the 3 pt line. He made a few but miss a possible game winner at the end of regulation. He did redeem himself in OT with a pretty 3 ball and they got the win.

Kennedy had the best player on the floor. 6’9” man child and WVU commit Oscar Tsheibwe.

xufan02
01-01-2019, 01:01 PM
I wouldn’t say he “led” them in anything. Just watched the game and you get a much different perspective than highlight vids. Dahmir was in no way the focal point of the offense......looked like he was the 4th option. Didn’t see much on the ball defense from him or rebounding to speak of, nor did he appear to facilitate the ball much.

He got almost all his touches roaming the 3 pt line. He made a few but miss a possible game winner at the end of regulation. He did redeem himself in OT with a pretty 3 ball and they got the win.

Kennedy had the best player on the floor. 6’9” man child and WVU commit Oscar Tsheibwe.

He led them in scoring in the game, is that better since you are clearly trying to make some point, of which I have no clue.

Xuperman
01-01-2019, 01:42 PM
BTW, Thanks for posting the game link. Any point I’m making is on watching this game only. You must have seen a box score but I could not find one......didn’t try to score the game but he scored around 12/15 points, right?

X-man
01-01-2019, 02:38 PM
BTW, Thanks for posting the game link. Any point I’m making is on watching this game only. You must have seen a box score but I could not find one......didn’t try to score the game but he scored around 12/15 points, right?

If you read the material in the link below the video, you will discover that Bishop scored 18, and led the team in scoring.

noteggs
01-01-2019, 03:29 PM
If you read the material in the link below the video, you will discover that Bishop scored 18, and led the team in scoring.

Ha. I found it as well but had to do a lot of searching. Your way was much easier and will keep that little secret for future use. Also, saw Bishop and Tsheibwe holding trophies after game so I’m guessing MVP’s? He’s supposed to be primarily a shooter so he showed me enough in that capacity from the clip. Plus he’s coming off an ankle injury. We get so used to seeing Tandy dominate his games but Imhotep is in a different class than University Heights over the years.

scoscox
01-02-2019, 12:54 PM
https://twitter.com/JSZ_Sports/status/1080380281553645568
freemantle highlights

XUGRAD80
01-02-2019, 06:32 PM
Just a FYI post....

Deonte Allen injured his knee in his last game and will be having surgery. Not sure how intensive the injury is. A shame as he was having a monster year and had a good shot at being the state player of the year. On top of that, by all accounts he is one of the nicest and most mature young men you’d ever hope to meet. I wish him well, even if he did choose them blue cheaters and not the blue good guys.

Xuperman
01-05-2019, 01:19 PM
https://twitter.com/JSZ_Sports/status/1080380281553645568
freemantle highlights

https://mobile.twitter.com/zachfreemantle
Watching the BU/CU game, I am hoping we get a Martin Krampelj type player.

scoscox
01-05-2019, 07:11 PM
Dematha is playing Daniel Ramsey's Norcross on WatchESPN right now and Dahmir's Imhotep team plays at 7:45, but I'm not sure if that'll be televised or not

scoscox
01-05-2019, 07:12 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/zachfreemantle
Watching the BU/CU game, I am hoping we get a Martin Krampelj type player.

He seems to be in that mold

XUGRAD80
01-05-2019, 09:05 PM
Dematha is playing Daniel Ramsey's Norcross on WatchESPN right now and Dahmir's Imhotep team plays at 7:45, but I'm not sure if that'll be televised or not

I don’t think that Ramsey played because of illness.

Imhotep is up on DeMatha by 13 at half...Bishop has 14 on 4 3pters and a 2 pt drive

Xuperman
01-16-2019, 11:43 AM
http://highschoolsports.nj.com/game/score/4542869/

ZFree and Bergen Catholic lost in a highly anticipated game vs NJ #1 Ranney. Zach played well with 12 pts and 10 boards but Villanova commit Bryan Antoine dominated with a game high 26......gonna see a lot of him in the coming years!

bobbiemcgee
01-16-2019, 11:31 PM
Kyky slams on a 7'2" guy, bumps his chin on the rim:


https://www.barstoolsports.com/barstoolu/kyky-tandy-a-xavier-commit-dunked-so-hard-over-a-7-footer-he-cut-his-chin-on-the-rim#scrollToComments

GIMMFD
01-17-2019, 12:58 AM
Kyky slams on a 7'2" guy, bumps his chin on the rim:


https://www.barstoolsports.com/barstoolu/kyky-tandy-a-xavier-commit-dunked-so-hard-over-a-7-footer-he-cut-his-chin-on-the-rim#scrollToComments

Gotta love Reags never ending commitment to the college basketball grind, I think the best part of this is that Tandy went off for 33 against them along with that dunk, he's going to be a really fun player to watch in an X jersey man, this class is exciting as hell!

Xuperman
01-17-2019, 11:47 AM
Kyky slams on a 7'2" guy, bumps his chin on the rim:


https://www.barstoolsports.com/barstoolu/kyky-tandy-a-xavier-commit-dunked-so-hard-over-a-7-footer-he-cut-his-chin-on-the-rim#scrollToComments

That happened weeks ago (see page 3 of this thread).
Here are the current statewide KY stats. He is 7th in the state in scoring....he goes to the line A LOT and makes them when he gets there. I think he made 38 of 40 recently. That is always nice to see!
https://khsaa.org/2018-19-boys-basketball-stat-leaders/

XUGRAD80
01-17-2019, 01:42 PM
KyKy is one of 3 Kentucky players nominated for the McDonald’s All American game....care to guess the other 2?

noteggs
01-17-2019, 02:24 PM
Allen and Johnson? Based off Allen’s season before getting hurt, still think he should get recognized.

XUGRAD80
01-17-2019, 02:27 PM
Allen and Johnson? Based off Allen’s season before getting hurt, still think he should get recognized.

Bingo!

Xuperman
01-19-2019, 12:28 PM
http://highschoolsports.nj.com/news/article/-7931539304997258111/no-10-don-bosco-prep-gets-hot-from-perimeter-takes-down-no-3-bergen-catholic/

Bergen and Freemantle dropped it’s second consecutive game against another NJ powerhouse....this time Don Bosco. However Zach came up big in the loss with a game high 19. Can’t wait to see him in the fall!!

https://expo.advance.net/img/a5e44c4224/width960/a35_bcdbpboysbb214258.jpeg

Xuperman
01-21-2019, 05:12 AM
http://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/dwon-odom/JQ4UY6-AEeaAdqA2nzwY6g/gendersport/basketball-stats.htm#year=18-19

Dwon Odom continues to torch the competition. Looking at his stats, he is a much different type player than Tandy or Bishop. His scoring is on par with them BUT he doesn’t shoot much from distance. Only 8 made 3’s in 28 attempts, so he must be one helluva slasher. Shoots a ridiculous 74% on his 2 pointers! The numbers indicate he is a TRUE PG, as his AST/TO ratio is outstanding. He rebounds the ball at a surprising clip and gets a lot of steals. This tells me that he is very quick/athletic with a high motor.

Hard to believe he has another year of HS ball left to go assuming he doesn’t re-classify as was rumored. I know very little about St. Francis other than it’s a private school and have no idea what the competition is like, but if he doesn’t end up at X in the fall a high profile prep school could be a possibility....Either way, the last word any of us want to hear is “de-commits”.

paulxu
01-21-2019, 08:03 AM
St Francis is the school Kaiser Gates graduated from in Alpharetta.
Good school. There is someone (or was when Kaiser was there) who had a connection with Xavier.
Hope Gates helps him come here.

Xuperman
01-22-2019, 12:14 PM
Tandy is red hot going into tomorrow’s ALL A STATE TOURNAMENT game. He’s scorched the nets for 136 points in his last 4 games. If that continues it will make a strong case for KY Mr. Basketball unless Allen is eligible playing only half the season.

MITTENMUSKIE16
01-23-2019, 06:15 PM
SG Zach Harvey, a huge, HUGE (2020 or 2019) target is taking his first official visit to X starting tomorrow. Currently a top 40 prospect out of Prolific Prep (Paul's old school), he would be a major get. Rumors that he could reclassify into 2019 and join the current X class.

XUMIOH12
01-24-2019, 10:22 AM
SG Zach Harvey, a huge, HUGE (2020 or 2019) target is taking his first official visit to X starting tomorrow. Currently a top 40 prospect out of Prolific Prep (Paul's old school), he would be a major get. Rumors that he could reclassify into 2019 and join the current X class.

He was originally a class of '19 prospect, but re-classified to '20 before this season.

MITTENMUSKIE16
01-24-2019, 10:37 AM
He was originally a class of '19 prospect, but re-classified to '20 before this season.

Correct, I should have worded it differently. But, as of right now, he is still considering being part of the 2019 class.

XUMIOH12
01-24-2019, 12:30 PM
Correct, I should have worded it differently. But, as of right now, he is still considering being part of the 2019 class.

Right, I was just pointing that out to emphasize that him joining a program in the class of '19 wouldn't be surprising.

xukeith
01-24-2019, 05:29 PM
That would be a gigantic catch for Steele to snatch Harvey away from Kansas.

He would not have any competition here and start as a frosh IF he can shoot the lights out and be a AMAZING TALENT BUT it took Trevon a year to find his role and he averaged a nice 10 points per game.
The rest of 5 frosh would also scramble as they would be light years from knowing the system.

Look at Kennedy, and James this year: NOTHING but maybe next year, something with more muscle , training and teh Tu Holloway program of 1,000 shots per day.
No matter who comes next year, it will take 2-3 years to develop a steady talent pipeline consistent and what we as X fans are used to. Hoping for 1 grad transfer to play center.

He is from Kansas so it is a far distance from family. Hope Scruggs and he are very tight with teammates and family.

xukeith
01-24-2019, 05:35 PM
Hope this guy picks Kansas. That would tie up a spot on KU roster for SG/CG.


This too would be huge:
https://247sports.com/Player/Dawson-Garcia-46050093/ but we have discussed this already. 2 top 50 recruits would be WAY better than Bluiett Macura.

MITTENMUSKIE16
01-24-2019, 06:48 PM
Which guy do you want to pick Kansas?

xukeith
01-24-2019, 08:47 PM
Which guy do you want to pick Kansas?


RJ Hampton

GIMMFD
01-24-2019, 09:46 PM
Hope this guy picks Kansas. That would tie up a spot on KU roster for SG/CG.


This too would be huge:
https://247sports.com/Player/Dawson-Garcia-46050093/ but we have discussed this already. 2 top 50 recruits would be WAY better than Bluiett Macura.

Boy a class with Odom and Garcia?? That'd be unreal. Though on the court product hasn't been the prettiest this year, it's good to know we're still making waves on the recruiting front, that 2020 class could be something insanely special.

As for Zach Harvey, pulling a Kansas recruit away from Kansas would be huge, he'd definitely have the potential to do some great things in our line up, the 2019 class looks damn good so far, and adding a guard that's top 50 would be amazing. We need some outside shooting threats obviously as we've seen this year, I think Steele's doing a good job addressing needs. Looks like Ben Johnson's recruiting has lived up to par as well getting us in the door with some of these big time guys.

Xuperman
01-25-2019, 08:27 AM
http://bluegrasspreps.com/ky-boys-basketball/university-heights-61-375853.html

We have at least one badly needed shooter on deck....Tandy must have crazy range!

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/sports/preps/kentucky/2019/01/24/all-a-classic-boys-basketball-tournament-recaps-kcd-holy-cross/2655692002/

Miles has really upped his scoring as of late. Notched 26 in the win last night. Getting a load of blocks as well.

Xuperman
01-27-2019, 11:40 AM
Tandy and Co. will play for the ALL A championship today. He rallied UHA in the second half for the W.

https://www.wymt.com/content/sports/University-Heights-holds-Shelby-Valley-to-11-second-half-points-ends-the-Wildcats-All-A-run-504927181.html

In the other semi, Miles and Walton Verona laid an egg scoring only 22 points....makes me wonder if he played much.

Xuperman
01-27-2019, 11:42 AM
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/25843111/mcdonald-all-american-game-rosters-feature-james-wiseman-cole-anthony

In related news, this pisses me off for some reason.

XUGRAD80
01-27-2019, 09:02 PM
University Heights, Kentucky won the A classic title and KyKy Tandy was named tournament MVP.

Keep in mind that this is a tourney for the smallest schools in Kentucky and the competition is not the best. KyKy had a solid and consistent tourney and scored 14 points in the final.

XUGRAD80
01-27-2019, 09:04 PM
Tandy and Co. will play for the ALL A championship today. He rallied UHA in the second half for the W.

https://www.wymt.com/content/sports/University-Heights-holds-Shelby-Valley-to-11-second-half-points-ends-the-Wildcats-All-A-run-504927181.html

In the other semi, Miles and Walton Verona laid an egg scoring only 22 points....makes me wonder if he played much.

Evidently the opposition packed it in and dared the WV guards to shoot....and they went 0-16 shooting the 3. Haven’t seen any stats for Miles from that game.

usfldan
01-27-2019, 09:10 PM
Evidently the opposition packed it in and dared the WV guards to shoot....and they went 0-16 shooting the 3. Haven’t seen any stats for Miles from that game.

http://allaclassic.org/State%20Brackets/2019%20Boys'%20Game%20Summaries/Boys%20SF%20Game%201%20Box.pdf

http://allaclassic.org/ has stats for all of the games.

Xuperman
01-30-2019, 09:13 AM
https://247sports.com/college/xavier/Article/Xavier-Musketeers-Basketball-Recruiting-2019-Dekeyvan-KyKy-Tandy-Most-Valuable-Player-Kentucky-All-A-Classic-State-Tournament-University-Heights-Academy-Grant-Shouse-Lexington-128397554/

Nice write up on Tandy’s ALL A Tourney MVP performance.

Xville
01-30-2019, 10:03 AM
https://247sports.com/college/xavier/Article/Xavier-Musketeers-Basketball-Recruiting-2019-Dekeyvan-KyKy-Tandy-Most-Valuable-Player-Kentucky-All-A-Classic-State-Tournament-University-Heights-Academy-Grant-Shouse-Lexington-128397554/

Nice write up on Tandy’s ALL A Tourney MVP performance.

One impressive thing about the finals is Tandy's team had lost to Lexington Christian by 12 earlier this year in the king of the bluegrass tournament. so to come back and beat them by the same number is quite impressive to me.

xukeith
01-31-2019, 01:53 PM
http://allaclassic.org/State%20Brackets/2019%20Boys'%20Game%20Summaries/Boys%20SF%20Game%201%20Box.pdf

http://allaclassic.org/ has stats for all of the games.

Wow. what a boring game. looks like it it took no longer than 30 minutes.

xukeith
01-31-2019, 01:55 PM
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/25843111/mcdonald-all-american-game-rosters-feature-james-wiseman-cole-anthony

In related news, this pisses me off for some reason.

Why? It usually is the same teams and top recruits every year. Villanova snagging 2? or Memphis getting #1, bother you?

X happily might never get a top 25 recruit.

MITTENMUSKIE16
01-31-2019, 02:40 PM
Why? It usually is the same teams and top recruits every year. Villanova snagging 2? or Memphis getting #1, bother you?

X happily might never get a top 25 recruit.

Who would be happy about X never getting a top 25 recruit? Top 10? Unlikely, but if X wants to continue its upward trajectory it’s going to have to start pulling that sort of talent at least once every few years. Start turning top 80 guys into top 50. Top 40 guys into top 25.

xukeith
01-31-2019, 05:55 PM
Who would be happy about X never getting a top 25 recruit? Top 10? Unlikely, but if X wants to continue its upward trajectory it’s going to have to start pulling that sort of talent at least once every few years. Start turning top 80 guys into top 50. Top 40 guys into top 25.

lol.
I thought our Musketeers came to get a diploma and play basketball........oops that was in the 80's and 90's.

xukeith
01-31-2019, 05:58 PM
18 year old Zack Harvey who visited X after Marquette loss, is no longer being courted by Kansas per Rivals site. Its X, Oklahoma, Gonzaga and Creighton.
Gonzaga already landed a top 50 sg for 2020.


*** sidenote:
https://www.cjonline.com/sports/20180627/haydens-zach-harvey-pleads-no-contest-to-lesser-charges-related-to-march-2017-incident

Hope he learned his lesson.

XUGRAD80
01-31-2019, 06:07 PM
18 year old Zack Harvey who visited X after Marquette loss, is no longer being courted by Kansas per Rivals site. Its X, Oklahoma, Gonzaga and Creighton.
Gonzaga already landed a top 50 sg for 2020.


*** sidenote:
https://www.cjonline.com/sports/20180627/haydens-zach-harvey-pleads-no-contest-to-lesser-charges-related-to-march-2017-incident

Hope he learned his lesson.

Wow, just wow. Hope Steele does his due diligence on this kid. I’m all for giving people a 2nd chance, and maybe this is a one time only thing and there’s nothing else like this in his past. But it’s certainly a red flag.

In regards to your comment about going to school and getting a degree.....I totally agree. If that means Xavier never makes a final 4 or sniffs a NC, I’m ok with that too. It’s all about priorities. I’d rather be proud of what my university represents than be sorry about how they accomplished it.

MITTENMUSKIE16
01-31-2019, 07:38 PM
I’d rather have both. And XUKeith’s comments were definitely made sarcastically.

Xville
01-31-2019, 07:58 PM
Wow, just wow. Hope Steele does his due diligence on this kid. I’m all for giving people a 2nd chance, and maybe this is a one time only thing and there’s nothing else like this in his past. But it’s certainly a red flag.

In regards to your comment about going to school and getting a degree.....I totally agree. If that means Xavier never makes a final 4 or sniffs a NC, I’m ok with that too. It’s all about priorities. I’d rather be proud of what my university represents than be sorry about how they accomplished it.

I dont really care how we do it as long as we arent getting guys who have committed felonious crimes. If we give some money here or there, or help someone pass a class, I dont care. I used to not feel that way, but the ncaa is so beyond corrupt, that I dont care anymore. The golden cows such as UNC can cheat and cheat and cheat and nothing ever happens to them, while other schools get hammered for comparatively minor infractions. Guarantee that if anyone gets in trouble with the shoe company deal, it will only be Auburn because they dont bring enough money to the ncaa.

GIMMFD
01-31-2019, 07:59 PM
18 year old Zack Harvey who visited X after Marquette loss, is no longer being courted by Kansas per Rivals site. Its X, Oklahoma, Gonzaga and Creighton.
Gonzaga already landed a top 50 sg for 2020.


*** sidenote:
https://www.cjonline.com/sports/20180627/haydens-zach-harvey-pleads-no-contest-to-lesser-charges-related-to-march-2017-incident

Hope he learned his lesson.

Yeah I'm definitely assuming sarcasm here as it was a one year difference, and well.. hormones.

GIMMFD
01-31-2019, 08:01 PM
Evidently the opposition packed it in and dared the WV guards to shoot....and they went 0-16 shooting the 3. Haven’t seen any stats for Miles from that game.

Ahh WV guards and not being able to score, name a better duo.

Xuperman
02-01-2019, 08:10 AM
it was a one year difference, and well.. hormones.

No doubt, this kind of stuff has got to be rampant.....I mean every kid has a phone with a camera.

UCGRAD4X
02-02-2019, 09:29 AM
No doubt, this kind of stuff has got to be rampant.....I mean every kid has a phone with a camera.

An 8th grade student takes a video of another slightly younger student "performing a sex act" on him and sends it to classmates. This was more than a month ago and the student is still in school and, as far as I can tell, has suffered no repercussions and continues to verbally abuse female students.

He realizes there are no consequences for his actions.


This is a Catholic school.

mohr5150
02-02-2019, 10:05 PM
An 8th grade student takes a video of another slightly younger student "performing a sex act" on him and sends it to classmates. This was more than a month ago and the student is still in school and, as far as I can tell, has suffered no repercussions and continues to verbally abuse female students.

He realizes there are no consequences for his actions.


This is a Catholic school.

This happened recently here in Cincy. The teachers at the school told me about it. They are sick about it, but the principal won't do anything about it. What kids are exposed to these days is nuts.

bleedXblue
02-03-2019, 09:17 AM
This happened recently here in Cincy. The teachers at the school told me about it. They are sick about it, but the principal won't do anything about it. What kids are exposed to these days is nuts.

I'm calling a bit of BS on this one. You're telling me teachers, parents etc of this school know about this, have seen the video(s) and have done NOTHING about it? Nothing? I know if this is my school and my kid is going there or is in a class with this kid, I'm going to the pastor and principal of the school immediately. If they do "nothing", or anything close to suspension or expulsion, I'm going to the police.

UCGRAD4X
02-03-2019, 09:48 AM
I'm calling a bit of BS on this one. You're telling me teachers, parents etc of this school know about this, have seen the video(s) and have done NOTHING about it? Nothing? I know if this is my school and my kid is going there or is in a class with this kid, I'm going to the pastor and principal of the school immediately. If they do "nothing", or anything close to suspension or expulsion, I'm going to the police.

I haven't seen it, nor do I care to. Student's phones were collected and kept for parents to pick-up.

Otherwise, yes.

Teachers can quit. Parents can withdraw their children, and I am surprised, especially the girls, have not. As mohr indicated, teachers are mostly stunned and bewildered, have made their feeling known, but are otherwise powerless.

bleedXblue
02-03-2019, 10:22 AM
I haven't seen it, nor do I care to. Student's phones were collected and kept for parents to pick-up.

Otherwise, yes.

Teachers can quit. Parents can withdraw their children, and I am surprised, especially the girls, have not. As mohr indicated, teachers are mostly stunned and bewildered, have made their feeling known, but are otherwise powerless.

If you have an issue and feel like things have not been handled well you can go to the Archdiocese?

xukeith
02-03-2019, 11:10 AM
We don't know the facts.
If someone allegedly had pics of my child, I would call the police. Easy.

We might be assuming a lot of details.

xukeith
02-03-2019, 11:13 AM
An 8th grade student takes a video of another slightly younger student "performing a sex act" on him and sends it to classmates. This was more than a month ago and the student is still in school and, as far as I can tell, has suffered no repercussions and continues to verbally abuse female students.

He realizes there are no consequences for his actions.


This is a Catholic school.

I thought it was done in 2017..?

mohr5150
02-03-2019, 11:32 AM
I'm calling a bit of BS on this one. You're telling me teachers, parents etc of this school know about this, have seen the video(s) and have done NOTHING about it? Nothing? I know if this is my school and my kid is going there or is in a class with this kid, I'm going to the pastor and principal of the school immediately. If they do "nothing", or anything close to suspension or expulsion, I'm going to the police.

You can call whatever you want on it, but I am well aware of the administration of this school, and the fact that the administration is not making the correct disciplinary decision on this is not a surprise. If you knew anything about the culture of this school and the attitude of the parents, you would believe me. Supposedly, there were steps to get to the bottom of the situation, but, as far as I know, the students involved are all still going to school there.

mohr5150
02-03-2019, 11:33 AM
I thought it was done in 2017..?

The situation and school I am referring to occurred just a month or two ago.

XUBison
02-03-2019, 11:56 AM
If you have an issue and feel like things have not been handled well you can go to the Archdiocese?

Yes, because that’s the first place I’d go to address a scandal involving children and sex.

bleedXblue
02-03-2019, 12:07 PM
Yes, because that’s the first place I’d go to address a scandal involving children and sex.

Yeah not the same thing though. I know what you mean......

MITTENMUSKIE16
02-07-2019, 07:56 AM
Yesterday Steele and Ben Johnson flew to CA to visit Zach Harvey. This morning Steele tweeted about his visit “quick trip to CVG to SFO to CVG. Feels good to be back home.”

Probably just me trying to convince myself of some good news, but I feel like Steele wouldn’t tweet about the trip unless he was really confident about the visit and perhaps was expecting a commitment sometime soon.

XUGRAD80
02-07-2019, 08:30 AM
Head coaches tend be the “closers”, so interesting that Steele was part of the visit. We can hope he was able to “close” the deal.

MITTENMUSKIE16
02-07-2019, 10:55 AM
Official XU Men’s basketball account just quoted Steele’s tweet with the thinking emoji... something has to be happening here fast. It’s only 8am there. But maybe we hear something by the end of the day.

XUBison
02-07-2019, 01:56 PM
Or, maybe he’s indicated he’s going elsewhere, so Steele was making a desperate last ditch effort to salvage things. Sorry... #RainOnParadeGuy

xudash
02-07-2019, 02:34 PM
Or, maybe he’s indicated he’s going elsewhere, so Steele was making a desperate last ditch effort to salvage things. Sorry... #RainOnParadeGuy

You should be sorry.

Penalty shot of your choice and technical foul for being negative.

XUBison
02-07-2019, 02:54 PM
You should be sorry.

Penalty shot of your choice and technical foul for being negative.


I guess this season is taking its toll. Can I retract? Steele’s going to crush it... landing this guy, and leading a miraculous unbeaten streak all the way to the F4. Only positive vibes from here on out.

xudash
02-07-2019, 03:28 PM
I guess this season is taking its toll. Can I retract? Steele’s going to crush it... landing this guy, and leading a miraculous unbeaten streak all the way to the F4. Only positive vibes from here on out.

You should be proud.

Reward shot of your choice for being positive.

xukeith
02-09-2019, 02:47 PM
Yesterday Steele and Ben Johnson flew to CA to visit Zach Harvey. This morning Steele tweeted about his visit “quick trip to CVG to SFO to CVG. Feels good to be back home.”

Probably just me trying to convince myself of some good news, but I feel like Steele wouldn’t tweet about the trip unless he was really confident about the visit and perhaps was expecting a commitment sometime soon.

"soon" is open to opinion.....1 month, April, July....

When do you think soon is?

MITTENMUSKIE16
02-09-2019, 04:15 PM
Definitely before July if he’s going to reclassify. From what I hear, there are certain things that need to happen before this progresses further (assuming academics wise), but that X has put themselves in a very good position and wheels are in motion to get the list of things done (whatever else there is). My guess is he takes maybe two more OVs for schools recruiting him as a ‘19 and makes a decision on reclassifying-and if so, what school- by the end of March?

XUGRAD80
02-09-2019, 06:04 PM
There was a very good article in The Athletic recently about Miles from Walton Verona. (Sorry I don’t have the link). I didn’t realize it but the kid is only 17 and still might grow a little. X first became aware of him at a summer tournament in Louisville, where he sank 6 three point shots in the game they watched. In a recent 37 point game he also sank several 3-point shots. His latest game he only had 7 points, but was basically surrounded by 5 players the entire evening as the opposition packed the paint with their whole team. Article says that he is up to 215 lbs and is trying like crazy to gain weight. They feel that he ultimately reach 230 by the time he is playing for X.

GIMMFD
02-09-2019, 06:41 PM
Definitely before July if he’s going to reclassify. From what I hear, there are certain things that need to happen before this progresses further (assuming academics wise), but that X has put themselves in a very good position and wheels are in motion to get the list of things done (whatever else there is). My guess is he takes maybe two more OVs for schools recruiting him as a ‘19 and makes a decision on reclassifying-and if so, what school- by the end of March?

That would be some phenomenal news in March considering we won't be playing, it would be nice to get another top level guy in, that class could be an absolute home run if Harvey comes along. Only concern would be how loaded our backcourt would be, Harden and Kennedy may both transfer if Harvey comes along, but I'm okay with getting the best talent on our roster.


There was a very good article in The Athletic recently about Miles from Walton Verona. (Sorry I don’t have the link). I didn’t realize it but the kid is only 17 and still might grow a little. X first became aware of him at a summer tournament in Louisville, where he sank 6 three point shots in the game they watched. In a recent 37 point game he also sank several 3-point shots. His latest game he only had 7 points, but was basically surrounded by 5 players the entire evening as the opposition packed the paint with their whole team. Article says that he is up to 215 lbs and is trying like crazy to gain weight. They feel that he ultimately reach 230 by the time he is playing for X.

Good to hear he has some range and can stretch the court, seems like an athletic specimen as well, 230 would be a good frame to build on, it seems our weight and conditioning program did wonders in the past, so hopefully that can continue on. He's obviously going to be a project so I don't expect much next year, but getting his body to a good weight to compete will be helpful in earning minutes.

bleedXblue
02-10-2019, 09:43 AM
There was a very good article in The Athletic recently about Miles from Walton Verona. (Sorry I don’t have the link). I didn’t realize it but the kid is only 17 and still might grow a little. X first became aware of him at a summer tournament in Louisville, where he sank 6 three point shots in the game they watched. In a recent 37 point game he also sank several 3-point shots. His latest game he only had 7 points, but was basically surrounded by 5 players the entire evening as the opposition packed the paint with their whole team. Article says that he is up to 215 lbs and is trying like crazy to gain weight. They feel that he ultimately reach 230 by the time he is playing for X.

He's a project with big upside. I hope he stops growing and actually starts growing into his body.......

XUGRAD80
02-11-2019, 04:54 PM
In Kentucky, there are 16 regions. Each region has one player chosen from that region to be a finalist in the Mr. Basketball election.

KyKy Tandy...2nd region
Dionte Miles...8th region

Are both Mr. Basketball candidates for their regions

(11th region actually lists 3 candidates, but every other region only lists one )

DexterBailey84
02-11-2019, 05:22 PM
speaking of 2019 recruits, does anyone actually still believe these kids are going to keep their commitments after this disaster of a season?
and would anyone even blame them if they actually did back out?

94GRAD
02-11-2019, 05:26 PM
speaking of 2019 recruits, does anyone actually still believe these kids are going to keep their commitments after this disaster of a season?
and would anyone even blame them if they actually did back out?

First of all, there are going to be a lot of minutes open for the Freshmen to play. Second, they all have signed their LOI and would have to sit out a year if they backed out.

DexterBailey84
02-11-2019, 05:41 PM
First of all, there are going to be a lot of minutes open for the Freshmen to play. Second, they all have signed their LOI and would have to sit out a year if they backed out.

yeah well much like our head coach, that doesn't give me a whole lot of confidence.

not trying to be a dick in any way, I simply see no positives from this staff whatsoever.....just gotta wonder how these recruits are feeling right about now.

Juice
02-11-2019, 06:12 PM
yeah well much like our head coach, that doesn't give me a whole lot of confidence.

not trying to be a dick in any way, I simply see no positives from this staff whatsoever.....just gotta wonder how these recruits are feeling right about now.

Probably that they could come in right away and help improve the team that was a #1 seed two seasons ago playing in a major conference

DexterBailey84
02-11-2019, 06:15 PM
Probably that they could come in right away and help improve the team that was a #1 seed two seasons ago playing in a major conference

maybe. let's hope.

XUGRAD80
02-11-2019, 06:16 PM
yeah well much like our head coach, that doesn't give me a whole lot of confidence.

not trying to be a dick in any way, I simply see no positives from this staff whatsoever.....just gotta wonder how these recruits are feeling right about now.

Probably excited that their high schools teams going into the final month of the season and fighting for championships. Probably aware that X is struggling this year, but confident that they can turn it around. Don’t know about the others, but Miles makes the X sign with his arms when he is introduced prior to every game. I hear KyKy has also done that. As 94 said, the recruits are surely aware of the minutes that will be available and the opportunities they will have to contribute right away.

XUBison
02-11-2019, 06:58 PM
yeah well much like our head coach, that doesn't give me a whole lot of confidence.

not trying to be a dick in any way, I simply see no positives from this staff whatsoever.....just gotta wonder how these recruits are feeling right about now.


Hey Eeyore, we’ve got plenty of other active threads for you to rail on the current staff and players. This thread provides me with much needed hope and optimism. helps me get through my day, you get it? Keep your ”oh bother” mentality out of here... dick.

DexterBailey84
02-11-2019, 07:07 PM
Hey Eeyore, we’ve got plenty of other active threads for you to rail on the current staff and players. This thread provides me with much needed hope and optimism. helps me get through my day, you get it? Keep your ”oh bother” mentality out of here... dick.

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XfansinKy
02-12-2019, 06:48 AM
Miles and Tandy both played here in Richmond for the class A state championship. Tandy had a pretty good tournament (MVP) and it was obvious he wasn't worried about his individual stats. He played hard and played to win. He's already got a D1 physique. I mean he's got some big calf muscles like you would expect on a a football player. He definitely knows his way around the weight room. I believe he's going to start as a freshman. Miles runs the court good, and he's got pretty good hands. You can tell he's still growing into his frame. Idk if he is a redshirt though, because he's actually a pretty talented 7 footer. I honestly don't know what the hell I'm talking about, but that is my honest assessment of of these two.

XfansinKy
02-12-2019, 08:01 AM
http://highschoolsports.nj.com/news/article/-3931531305094258367/ramsey-50-at-bergen-catholic-60-bergen-county-jamboree-quarterfinals-boys-basketball/

D-West & PO-Z
02-12-2019, 08:34 AM
First of all, there are going to be a lot of minutes open for the Freshmen to play. Second, they all have signed their LOI and would have to sit out a year if they backed out.

1. I am not worried about losing recruits due to 1 tough year in a team that these guys probably clearly see they could help right away for and with coaches they obviously have very good relationships with. I think the fear of losing recruits just because of a down year is the ultimate fan paranoia.

2. However, if one of them did want out right now, I believe X would let them out of their LOI and they would not have to sit a year. Typically if a kid decides he no longer wants to come while still in high school the school doesnt forces their hand they let them out. Would sort of be a dick move not to, and I cant remember a situation where a school didnt let a high school kid out who changed their mind. Can anyone thing of a player who had to sit a year before ever even getting to a college?

MITTENMUSKIE16
02-12-2019, 08:35 AM
http://highschoolsports.nj.com/news/article/-3931531305094258367/ramsey-50-at-bergen-catholic-60-bergen-county-jamboree-quarterfinals-boys-basketball/

This is a nice line for Fremantle. Curious as to how he collected 22, as he’s shown to be comfortable shooting the three. Him, Kyky, and Dah I think will come in and be pretty solid freshmen once they get comfortable after a few nonconf games.

We sort of know what dieonte could ultimately be if he reaches his potential, which is really good... but the one I’m most curious about is Ramsey. Him and Fremantle both view themselves as fours, but have a bit of different styles, and I want to see what Ramsey’s game is like and how it’ll compliment Fremantle

XUGRAD80
02-12-2019, 09:03 AM
Most of the reports I’ve read have Ramsey listed ahead of Freemantle. In any case, I am hopeful that at least one of them will be immediate help next year. I’m confident that the guards will be, and if X can get one of the freshman bigs and a transfer wing or big to come in and give immediate help, the talent level and depth will be much better. How that transfers into wins it is impossible to say for sure, but it would definitely be a step in the right direction.

Xville
02-12-2019, 09:31 AM
Most of the reports I’ve read have Ramsey listed ahead of Freemantle. In any case, I am hopeful that at least one of them will be immediate help next year. I’m confident that the guards will be, and if X can get one of the freshman bigs and a transfer wing or big to come in and give immediate help, the talent level and depth will be much better. How that transfers into wins it is impossible to say for sure, but it would definitely be a step in the right direction.

Knowing that unless they are 5 stars, it takes big men longer to develop than guards/wings, I would assume Steele and staff have or are identifying the Grad Transfer market for someone to help out Jones next year in the near term. Maybe Freemantle or Ramsey will surprise, but I have doubts since I can't remember the last freshman big (besides West) that made a significant impact his freshman year. I certainly could be forgetting people though...maybe Frease?.

xu82
02-12-2019, 09:38 AM
Most of the reports I’ve read have Ramsey listed ahead of Freemantle. In any case, I am hopeful that at least one of them will be immediate help next year. I’m confident that the guards will be, and if X can get one of the freshman bigs and a transfer wing or big to come in and give immediate help, the talent level and depth will be much better. How that transfers into wins it is impossible to say for sure, but it would definitely be a step in the right direction.

The Hankins hairdo may be making more sense. Bring him back next year with an alias and an Opie style haircut. Who will know?

MITTENMUSKIE16
02-12-2019, 09:42 AM
Knowing that unless they are 5 stars, it takes big men longer to develop than guards/wings, I would assume Steele and staff have or are identifying the Grad Transfer market for someone to help out Jones next year in the near term. Maybe Freemantle or Ramsey will surprise, but I have doubts since I can't remember the last freshman big (besides West) that made a significant impact his freshman year. I certainly could be forgetting people though...maybe Frease?.

Significant is a relative term, at least to me. I think if one of them can come in, get comfortable throughout the non-con, and at the end of the year average something like 5 and 3 in 12-15 minutes, that would be more than enough.

The bottomline for next year's team is to have better buy-in and execution on the defensive end, from everyone, freshman included. Do that, and they should be good enough on the offensive end to get to 18-20 wins and make the tournament.

The offense isn't THAT bad (even with the turnovers), and should improve just based on the four guys getting incrementally better and having a couple new faces (freshman and transfers) that can shoot a bit. At least that's how I'm convincing myself, though I wish I was doing this in June instead of February.

bleedXblue
02-12-2019, 09:55 AM
Most of the reports I’ve read have Ramsey listed ahead of Freemantle. In any case, I am hopeful that at least one of them will be immediate help next year. I’m confident that the guards will be, and if X can get one of the freshman bigs and a transfer wing or big to come in and give immediate help, the talent level and depth will be much better. How that transfers into wins it is impossible to say for sure, but it would definitely be a step in the right direction.

I like Freemantle's motor......I think he gets minutes from day 1........

D-West & PO-Z
02-12-2019, 10:37 AM
Some recent freshman big man numbers:

Will Caudle:
11 mins/game, 3.7 points, 1.7 rebounds

Cole:
9.5 mins, 3.1 pts, 3.0 rebounds

Duncan:
14.4 mins, 6.2pts, 2.3 boards

Cage:
22.4 mins, 4.6pts, 3.4 boards

Brown:
16.9 min, 6.3pts, 4.1 boards

Love:
4mins, 1.1pts, 1.1boards

Kenny:
14.6 mins, 5.4pts, 3.7 boards

Robinson:
4.4mins, 1.9pts, 1.3boards

Farr:
3.2mins, 1.2pts, 1.1boards

Omara:
4.2mins, 1.5pts, 0.7boards

Jones:
11mins, 4.2pts, 3.1boards

I didnt include Jalen because he had a sit out year which I think helps a lot. Maybe Brown did too though? Can't remember.

MITTENMUSKIE16
02-12-2019, 10:48 AM
I think the last two are a pretty good cross for Freemantle... He's not as athletic as Tyrique, but he probably has just as much skill (not the same type of skills necessarily, but the same level) as Sean. More athletic than Sean and more talented (basketball skill-wise) than Tyrique as a freshman. And I think that's a pretty good combination, and he should get more minutes than both of them did as a freshman, pending a grad transfer big commit.

joe titan
02-12-2019, 11:10 AM
Some recent freshman big man numbers:

Will Caudle:
11 mins/game, 3.7 points, 1.7 rebounds

Cole:
9.5 mins, 3.1 pts, 3.0 rebounds

Duncan:
14.4 mins, 6.2pts, 2.3 boards

Cage:
22.4 mins, 4.6pts, 3.4 boards

Brown:
16.9 min, 6.3pts, 4.1 boards

Love:
4mins, 1.1pts, 1.1boards

Kenny:
14.6 mins, 5.4pts, 3.7 boards

Robinson:
4.4mins, 1.9pts, 1.3boards

Farr:
3.2mins, 1.2pts, 1.1boards

Omara:
4.2mins, 1.5pts, 0.7boards

Jones:
11mins, 4.2pts, 3.1boards

I didnt include Jalen because he had a sit out year which I think helps a lot. Maybe Brown did too though? Can't remember.

DBrown was redshirted.

XUGRAD80
02-12-2019, 12:09 PM
Love and Farr......those two should be poster children for what is possible when one decides to put in the work and has a burning desire to excel. Easily two of my favorite Muskies of all time!

Did they reach their potential?....H**L! They may have exceeded it!

D-West & PO-Z
02-12-2019, 12:40 PM
Love and Farr......those two should be poster children for what is possible when one decides to put in the work and has a burning desire to excel. Easily two of my favorite Muskies of all time!

Did they reach their potential?....H**L! They may have exceeded it!

Poster children for fans too in regards to not writing off a player who doesnt contribute much Freshman or even sophomore year.

noteggs
02-12-2019, 01:09 PM
From what I’ve read both Tandy and Freemantle are physically ready. However so was James and we saw how that translated. Seems like Freemantle’s intensity alone will earn him some minutes.

MITTENMUSKIE16
02-12-2019, 01:12 PM
From what I’ve read both Tandy and Freemantle are physically ready. However so was James and we saw how that translated. Seems like Freemantle’s intensity alone will earn him some minutes.

Honestly have no idea how James gets absolutely no playing time on this team. Does not bode well for his future with X.

Xville
02-12-2019, 01:56 PM
Honestly have no idea how James gets absolutely no playing time on this team. Does not bode well for his future with X.

Agreed....he must look absolutely awful in practice which is scary considering who he is probably up against. He was supposed to be a good shooter on a team that has little, and has the frame for BE basketball. I know he wasn't a highly rated recruit, but he can't even get a few minutes here or there on this team?

noteggs
02-12-2019, 07:52 PM
Yea with James it’s puzzling. Know at beginning it was stated he had trouble adjusting to the speed of college games (as many freshman do).

It was obvious he struggled with the defensive scheme in non conference play. Yes I know we suck overall on defense but he made a lot mistakes at that end.

I heard his Huntington Prep coach state how raw he was and had a great upside. In an ideal situation, probably could’ve red shirted this year but we needed the bodies.

Like other X recruits and players, hope for the best.

xukeith
02-12-2019, 08:17 PM
I now believe in not believing in any frosh or transfer hype until they play a game in a X uniform. Our signees are exciting and ranking news seems wonderful.
I look at Tennessee and 3-4 years ago( how were they ranked?)
All frosh were 3 stars. Their best recruit ranking-wise now plays 5 minutes a game. Their 3rd best frosh(ranked recruit) is today their leading scorer this year.

We would love 4 top 100's. The odds would be in our favor to win big. I think maybe Steele could give the program boost with these 5 frosh. 2021, 2022, .... will be fantastic.

xukeith
02-12-2019, 08:22 PM
Knowing that unless they are 5 stars, it takes big men longer to develop than guards/wings, I would assume Steele and staff have or are identifying the Grad Transfer market for someone to help out Jones next year in the near term. Maybe Freemantle or Ramsey will surprise, but I have doubts since I can't remember the last freshman big (besides West) that made a significant impact his freshman year. I certainly could be forgetting people though...maybe Frease?.

definitely. Jones needs help with a solid big guy who is good for 25 minutes and 6 rebounds. Not getting that with frosh yet.

bleedXblue
02-12-2019, 08:38 PM
definitely. Jones needs help with a solid big guy who is good for 25 minutes and 6 rebounds. Not getting that with frosh yet.

You gotta think longer term........it isn't about next year with this program

Start building the foundation again with youth

I would rather give minutes next year to a young guy who has talent and can learn and grow than take another flyer on a big man that we hope can help

Xuperman
02-13-2019, 03:46 AM
Speaking of transfers....does anyone have any info on Myles Hanson? What’s the word on how he is competing in practice? Have heard nothing at all here or anywhere else for that matter. He sure looks like he is in prime physical shape and every bit of 6’7” but can he play? If he can, we get him for 3 years correct?

XU3232
02-13-2019, 08:40 AM
Speaking of transfers....does anyone have any info on Myles Hanson? What’s the word on how he is competing in practice? Have heard nothing at all here or anywhere else for that matter. He sure looks like he is in prime physical shape and every bit of 6’7” but can he play? If he can, we get him for 3 years correct?

He's a great practice player and great walk-on... but he's not going to ever be playing meaningful minutes at X.

Xuperman
02-13-2019, 08:49 AM
"Great practice player"? What does that mean....do you know something or just speculating? If you have first hand info, it would be great to hear some details.

Xuperman
02-13-2019, 09:51 AM
Tandy ended the regular season by scorching the nets for 40. Looks like Mr. Basketball frontrunner. Up next is the districts on Tuesday night.

SemajParlor
02-13-2019, 11:08 AM
I now believe in not believing in any frosh or transfer hype until they play a game in a X uniform. Our signees are exciting and ranking news seems wonderful.


I'm with you on this. I try my best to not pay attention until Muskie Madness. Sure always nice to see getting highly recruited guys.

Xuperman
02-13-2019, 12:20 PM
https://www.philly.com/high-school-sports/pennsylvania/public-league-playoffs-imhotep-pa-high-school-sports-recap-score-results-20190213.html

Bishop looking good....2 wins from a bracket championship.

sirthought
02-13-2019, 02:37 PM
"Great practice player"? What does that mean....do you know something or just speculating? If you have first hand info, it would be great to hear some details.

He's not been promised a scholarship, so I'd imagine he's going to stay here as a walkon. I guess if coach thinks he moves up because of his play in practice we'll hear about it this summer. He's not likely to comment on that publically during the season.

Xuperman
02-13-2019, 03:17 PM
He's not been promised a scholarship, so I'd imagine he's going to stay here as a walkon. I guess if coach thinks he moves up because of his play in practice we'll hear about it this summer. He's not likely to comment on that publically during the season.

Yeah, I guess I am hoping for some inside info, like someone who has actually seen him practice or some scuttlebutt from what’s being said on campus about his abilities.

XU3232
02-13-2019, 03:59 PM
"Great practice player"? What does that mean....do you know something or just speculating? If you have first hand info, it would be great to hear some details.


That means he plays very hard in practice and has a lot of intensity. Steele actually mentioned it recently in a presser when Shannon Russell asked him about Myles getting a scholarship this year. I think Steele also mentioned he can embarrass guys if they aren't playing hard... but he's still not going to be playing meaningful minutes in games.

Xville
02-13-2019, 04:09 PM
That means he plays very hard in practice and has a lot of intensity. Steele actually mentioned it recently in a presser when Shannon Russell asked him about Myles getting a scholarship this year. I think Steele also mentioned he can embarrass guys if they aren't playing hard... but he's still not going to be playing meaningful minutes in games.

This sounds like the ole "she has a nice personality" answer.

XfansinKy
02-16-2019, 08:45 AM
In case it hasn't been mentioned, Dieonte Miles was 10-10 from the field and had 26 points Monday night. He grabbed 7 boards as well.

xukeith
02-16-2019, 08:57 AM
Tandy ended the regular season by scorching the nets for 40. Looks like Mr. Basketball frontrunner. Up next is the districts on Tuesday night.

Mr. Basketball in Michigan went to Brad Redford over Michigan's frosh

xukeith
02-16-2019, 09:00 AM
In case it hasn't been mentioned, Dieonte Miles was 10-10 from the field and had 26 points Monday night. He grabbed 7 boards as well.

I don't care if he was playing 5 foot talent, that is a good basketball stat.

94GRAD
02-16-2019, 09:02 AM
Mr. Basketball in Michigan went to Brad Redford over Michigan's frosh

I thought he beat out MSU's Draymond Green

XfansinKy
02-16-2019, 09:08 AM
I don't care if he was playing 5 foot talent, that is a good basketball stat.

I agree. I haven't been able to figure out how big the opposition was, but his school being in the greater Cincinnati area tells me he has played some good sized kids/young men in open gyms at least. Hard to find a 7 footer like him in an open run, but still that's a good area for athletes.

Lloyd Braun
02-16-2019, 09:10 AM
I thought he beat out MSU's Draymond Green

Chris Farley voice: “That, is correct.”

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/high-school/2016/03/20/michigan-mr-basketball-brad-redford-draymond-green/82062296/

Xuperman
02-16-2019, 09:27 AM
In case it hasn't been mentioned, Dieonte Miles was 10-10 from the field and had 26 points Monday night. He grabbed 7 boards as well.

He has been fairly inconsistent all season scoring wise, for instance he scored 37 on 2/5 then only 7 on 2/8, 26 on 2/12 then 9 on Wednesday. IDK what this says if anything. It’s just that he doesn’t seem to get the touches in a lot of games for whatever reason.

Xuperman
02-16-2019, 09:42 AM
He has been fairly inconsistent all season scoring wise, for instance he scored 37 on 2/5 then only 7 on 2/8, 26 on 2/12 then 9 on Wednesday. IDK what this says if anything. It’s just that he doesn’t seem to get the touches in a lot of games for whatever reason.

Another thing that is peculiar about him is that he rarely reaches double figs in rebounds. In fact he had a bunch of games where he didn’t get 5. For a 7’ guy playing in a rural region it seems odd. Maybe he is constantly in foul trouble. That would explain everything but that stat is not available on KHSAA.

UCGRAD4X
02-16-2019, 10:02 AM
Another thing that is peculiar about him is that he rarely reaches double figs in rebounds. In fact he had a bunch of games where he didn’t get 5. For a 7’ guy playing in a rural region it seems odd. Maybe he is constantly in foul trouble. That would explain everything but that stat is not available on KHSAA.

Either of these deficiencies is a bit unsettling.

I expect, as most bigs are, a bit of serious work needs to be done.

still....

XfansinKy
02-16-2019, 10:16 AM
He has been fairly inconsistent all season scoring wise, for instance he scored 37 on 2/5 then only 7 on 2/8, 26 on 2/12 then 9 on Wednesday. IDK what this says if anything. It’s just that he doesn’t seem to get the touches in a lot of games for whatever reason.

I'm going to guess it has a lot to do with how physical opponents are able to play against him. He's definitely not a power player yet. Maybe that's one of the reasons behind the redshirt rumors?

UCGRAD4X
02-16-2019, 10:20 AM
I'm going to guess it has a lot to do with how physical opponents are able to play against him. He's definitely not a power player yet. Maybe that's one of the reasons behind the redshirt rumors?

That would make sense given that lack of two important big man stats. Along with scoring, blocks, making foul shots...

scoscox
02-16-2019, 10:39 AM
From what I've heard, teams will sell out to stop him by packing 4 guys in the lane and keep him from touching it. He definitely needs to get stronger though to become a better rebounder

scoscox
02-16-2019, 10:40 AM
That would make sense given that lack of two important big man stats. Along with scoring, blocks, making foul shots...

One thing he seems to be pretty good at is blocking shots and he seems to be a pretty good shooter.

UCGRAD4X
02-16-2019, 10:47 AM
One thing he seems to be pretty good at is blocking shots and he seems to be a pretty good shooter.


You mean, like, from distance. It seams as if many successful teams in this league have this kind of guy, a Jamie Farr type. If that is the case, maybe he should play sooner rather than later. We definitely need some range shooters.

xukeith
02-16-2019, 11:11 AM
You mean, like, from distance. It seams as if many successful teams in this league have this kind of guy, a Jamie Farr type. If that is the case, maybe he should play sooner rather than later. We definitely need some range shooters.

I hope NOT! 7 footer is raining 3's as a 18 year old. Oh no.....

Lloyd Braun
02-16-2019, 11:47 AM
I hope NOT! 7 footer is raining 3's as a 18 year old. Oh no.....

This would be an incredible advantage if true (which it isn’t).... sticking 7 footers inside because they are 7 feet is antiquated. Stretch. The. Floor.

UCGRAD4X
02-16-2019, 01:51 PM
This would be an incredible advantage if true (which it isn’t).... sticking 7 footers inside because they are 7 feet is antiquated. Stretch. The. Floor.

Which is why I was encouraged by the 'good shooter' comment. But if you mean from three feet in...against players 8 inches shorter...