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94GRAD
07-29-2018, 02:58 PM
https://twitter.com/musketeerreport/status/1023641616572137473
GoMuskies
07-29-2018, 03:09 PM
#38 in his class? Yes, please. Hope we can hold that commitment for 2 years!
bleedXblue
07-29-2018, 03:46 PM
Yep and also hope that this may encourage Samari Curtis to re-up.
BandAid
07-29-2018, 04:15 PM
Yep and also hope that this may encourage Samari Curtis to re-up.
How would this encourage a re-up from Samari?
X Factor
07-29-2018, 04:15 PM
Big time commitment! Congrats to Coach Steele and Coach Hays.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0VYzgAds0A
bobbiemcgee
07-29-2018, 04:17 PM
Xavier lands potential difference maker Dwon Odom
Dwon Odom
Under Travis Steele’s leadership, Xavier’s basketball program has made it pretty clear that the state of Georgia is going to be a priority for the Musketeers. Back in May, they received their first 2019 commitment from Elias King out of Georgia. Today, they went back to the Peach State for more with a commitment from Dwon Odom.
The four-star point guard has had a great summer for the Atlanta Celtics 16-under team. At 6-foot-3 with a strong build, he’s one of the more explosive athletes around as well as one of the better passers. In transition, he’s about as good as it gets in the 2020 class. His perimeter stroke is still a work in progress, but he’s definitely improved in that area.
Xavier had Odom on campus for an unofficial visit during June, and that visit helped the new coaching staff seal the deal with the Georgia native.
“Everything was good. I saw the entire campus,” Odom said. “They showed their gym. Me and coach Travis Steele went over their playing style and watched film. I enjoyed everything they have to offer. I have a very close relationship with coach (Jonas) Hayes. He’s a funny guy. He calls me or texts me every day.”
Looks like Coach Hayes is killing it in GA
GoMuskies
07-29-2018, 04:20 PM
We're going to need Coach Hayes to hold off on getting a head coaching job for at least a couple of years!
94GRAD
07-29-2018, 04:28 PM
Xavier lands potential difference maker Dwon Odom
Dwon Odom
Under Travis Steele’s leadership, Xavier’s basketball program has made it pretty clear that the state of Georgia is going to be a priority for the Musketeers. Back in May, they received their first 2019 commitment from Elias King out of Georgia. Today, they went back to the Peach State for more with a commitment from Dwon Odom.
The four-star point guard has had a great summer for the Atlanta Celtics 16-under team. At 6-foot-3 with a strong build, he’s one of the more explosive athletes around as well as one of the better passers. In transition, he’s about as good as it gets in the 2020 class. His perimeter stroke is still a work in progress, but he’s definitely improved in that area.
Xavier had Odom on campus for an unofficial visit during June, and that visit helped the new coaching staff seal the deal with the Georgia native.
“Everything was good. I saw the entire campus,” Odom said. “They showed their gym. Me and coach Travis Steele went over their playing style and watched film. I enjoyed everything they have to offer. I have a very close relationship with coach (Jonas) Hayes. He’s a funny guy. He calls me or texts me every day.”
Looks like Coach Hayes is killing it in GA
FYI, it is HIGHLY frowned upon to copy and paste premium content from the 247 board.
GIMMFD
07-29-2018, 04:33 PM
We're going to need Coach Hayes to hold off on getting a head coaching job for at least a couple of years!
Honestly yes on Coach Hayes, especially if we can keep this commitment until 2020. The kid has a lot of game, can score big time, 6'3 so continuing on the trend of getting relatively lengthy guard's as well. He has opened up Georgia to us, and has started attracting some damn good talent. He's definitely going to be looked at for the HC gig sooner than later, but hopefully we can reap the benefits for as long as possible.
X-man
07-29-2018, 04:44 PM
FYI, it is HIGHLY frowned upon to copy and paste premium content from the 247 board.
Actually this is non-premium content from the Rivals board.
94GRAD
07-29-2018, 04:51 PM
Gotcha, I read the same thing on the premium board. Sorry
I come to this site daily hoping for news EXACTLY like this! AWESOME!
bleedXblue
07-29-2018, 05:51 PM
How would this encourage a re-up from Samari?
Simple assumption that if he seems big time recruits committing and sees that Xavier will be fine after Mack left it may calm his fears some about the coaching change.
bobbiemcgee
07-29-2018, 05:55 PM
Gotcha, I read the same thing on the premium board. Sorry
You owe me a beer. I don't belong to any premium sites except XHoops!
GIMMFD
07-29-2018, 06:36 PM
Simple assumption that if he seems big time recruits committing and sees that Xavier will be fine after Mack left it may calm his fears some about the coaching change.
Though that would be great, playing a little Devil's Advocate, maybe he sees it as big time competition for minutes at the guard position even though he's a class of 2019 recruit. I'd love for Curtis to re-commit, I think he has a lot of potential, and a class with him and King would be a good start. We'll have a lot more to go off of once we get a couple more dominos to fall for us.
scoscox
07-29-2018, 06:41 PM
Rick has said multiple times he doesn't think he'll recommit, but honestly if ohio state, indiana, or the other big schools he wants don't end up offering him, and that seems increasingly likely as time passes, I don't see why he wouldn't. To me that seems more likely than not.
bleedXblue
07-29-2018, 06:51 PM
Though that would be great, playing a little Devil's Advocate, maybe he sees it as big time competition for minutes at the guard position even though he's a class of 2019 recruit. I'd love for Curtis to re-commit, I think he has a lot of potential, and a class with him and King would be a good start. We'll have a lot more to go off of once we get a couple more dominos to fall for us.
Samari is a shooting guard and Odom is pure point guard
GIMMFD
07-29-2018, 08:12 PM
Samari is a shooting guard and Odom is pure point guard
I thought Samari was a combo guard and could do a bit of both? I was just saying it could have the possibility of being a crowded backcourt with Scruggs, Harden, Kennedy, Odom, and most likely Franklin once he commits. It's definitely a good problem to have, we want all the talent we can get, but just trying to throw some ideas around.
bjf123
07-29-2018, 10:06 PM
Per Shannon Russell, Dwon is good friends with Kaiser Gates.
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Per Shannon Russell, Dwon is good friends with Kaiser Gates.
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Interesting. And curious, a bit. I still love Kaiser and his family. No idea what went on, but they did what they felt was best for them. Best wishes.
xudash
07-29-2018, 10:46 PM
Interesting. And curious, a bit. I still love Kaiser and his family. No idea what went on, but they did what they felt was best for them. Best wishes.
That tidbit could strongly suggest that Kaiser thinks very positively about Xavier. You would think that Dwon would have wanted his input on Xavier. Regardless of a relationship with a coach who is recruiting you, a friend who played for the program would have valuable insight and information that could easily influence you.
That tidbit could strongly suggest that Kaiser thinks very positively about Xavier. You would think that Dwon would have wanted his input on Xavier. Regardless of a relationship with a coach who is recruiting you, a friend who played for the program would have valuable insight and information that could easily influence you.
Exactly. I don’t need to know what went down, but I’ll take this to mean that he left with a positive feeling toward X. If he wanted to poison that well, he easily could.
MarvAlbert
07-29-2018, 11:47 PM
https://twitter.com/jmixtapeproduct/status/1023656525032812544?s=09 Dwon posting his commitment and throwing up the X for good measure
Juice
07-30-2018, 04:33 AM
Kaiser's dad
https://twitter.com/dgates/status/1023649675621158913?s=21
sirthought
07-30-2018, 06:07 AM
Kaiser's dad
https://twitter.com/dgates/status/1023649675621158913?s=21
Yep, I just saw this on Twitter as well. I guess they are related.
This kid shows shades of young Russell Westbrook. Great skill driving through traffic. Great mojo on the court. One of the best prospects I've seen come to Xavier, perhaps ever. He's certainly leaps ahead of kids his own age now, and I noticed some other top prospects he was playing against in those videos. I'm excited!
Lloyd Braun
07-30-2018, 07:11 AM
Wonder if he’s done growing... wasn’t Sumner listed at 6’2” when he committed?
GreatWhiteNorth
07-30-2018, 08:45 AM
So he is related to “Nancy” as well. I am glad he picked X over UC.
MITTENMUSKIE16
07-30-2018, 09:00 AM
Wonder if he’s done growing... wasn’t Sumner listed at 6’2” when he committed?
Yep, Ed grew 4 inches between end of HS and start of college. Per Shannon's article and his twitter bio, he's already 17 and his birthday is in November. While he could definitely grow some more (I've always heard males can grow until about 21-22), I'm curious about another age-related factor. He will be 19 in November of his senior year of HS, that's pretty old... Another big time 2020 PG just reclassified to '19 because of his age. Wonder if there's any intention or desire to do the same, or if he just found the right fit and wanted to commit asap.
XMuskieFTW
07-30-2018, 09:53 AM
Samari is a shooting guard and Odom is pure point guard
Samari wants to play point in college though.
XU 87
07-30-2018, 10:36 AM
Wonder if he’s done growing... wasn’t Sumner listed at 6’2” when he committed?
I think he was 6'2" and weighed about 140 pounds.
MHettel
07-30-2018, 11:34 AM
Per Shannon Russell, Dwon is good friends with Kaiser Gates.
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Not that I doubt it...But Kaiser should be a Senior in College next year, and this kid would be a Jr in High school. I dont know, but when I was a Jr in High School, I dont recall having alot of dudes 5 years older than me that i would consider to be "good friends." Seems a little bit of a stretch...
bleedXblue
07-30-2018, 11:34 AM
Samari wants to play point in college though.
didnt know that
So we have moved on Good
AviatorX
07-30-2018, 11:46 AM
Not that I doubt it...But Kaiser should be a Senior in College next year, and this kid would be a Jr in High school. I dont know, but when I was a Jr in High School, I dont recall having alot of dudes 5 years older than me that i would consider to be "good friends." Seems a little bit of a stretch...
Prob a little different when you go to an elite basketball HS and play for the same elite AAU program that puts a ton of kids through the recruiting process. Little bit of a tighter circle I imagine.
XUFan09
07-30-2018, 11:46 AM
didnt know that
So we have moved on Good
Samari Curtis is a combo guard. Xavier has not moved on from him just because they got a commitment from a point guard in the next class (especially since Odom could play off the ball too). The coaching staff would be foolish to stop going after 2019 point guards and combo guards in general. 2019 projects Q as a senior and Scruggs as a junior; 2020 projects Scruggs as a senior and Odom as a freshman. That's not enough ball-handlers, even assuming that Q and Scruggs exhaust their eligibility.
bleedXblue
07-30-2018, 12:02 PM
Samari Curtis is a combo guard. Xavier has not moved on from him just because they got a commitment from a point guard in the next class (especially since Odom could play off the ball too). The coaching staff would be foolish to stop going after 2019 point guards and combo guards in general. 2019 projects Q as a senior and Scruggs as a junior; 2020 projects Scruggs as a senior and Odom as a freshman. That's not enough ball-handlers, even assuming that Q and Scruggs exhaust their eligibility.
If Curtis wants to be a PG, there is no way he's coming here to fight for a spot with a top 40 recruit. Same thing with Odom. I think the conversation with Curtis has definitely changed now.........I'm sure we would take him, but as a SG first.
XUFan09
07-30-2018, 12:12 PM
If Curtis wants to be a PG, there is no way he's coming here to fight for a spot with a top 40 recruit. Same thing with Odom. I think the conversation with Curtis has definitely changed now.........I'm sure we would take him, but as a SG first.You underestimate these players' confidence in their own abilities, especially a four-star in the class above potential competition. In addition, it's pretty much a guarantee that the staff is selling these players on an offensive scheme with multiple creators.
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bjf123
07-30-2018, 12:23 PM
Not that I doubt it...But Kaiser should be a Senior in College next year, and this kid would be a Jr in High school. I dont know, but when I was a Jr in High School, I dont recall having alot of dudes 5 years older than me that i would consider to be "good friends." Seems a little bit of a stretch...
Based on a post above, it sounds like they’re cousins.
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XMuskieFTW
07-30-2018, 12:36 PM
You underestimate these players' confidence in their own abilities, especially a four-star in the class above potential competition. In addition, it's pretty much a guarantee that the staff is selling these players on an offensive scheme with multiple creators.
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From everything I've read, I am under the impression Curtis decommitted largely because of lack of potential playing time at the 1 as a freshman. With a 2020 top 50 kid in the fold, I think landing Curtis is even less likely. Just seems like he'd rather being in a situation with less competition for playing time.
XUFan09
07-30-2018, 12:40 PM
From everything I've read, I am under the impression Curtis decommitted largely because of lack of potential playing time at the 1 as a freshman. With a 2020 top 50 kid in the fold, I think landing Curtis is even less likely. Just seems like he'd rather being in a situation with less competition for playing time.Curtis cares about playing the 1 when it comes to teams recruiting him (there are multiple quotes about that), but his de-commitment wasn't that simple.
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MarvAlbert
07-30-2018, 12:51 PM
Per Shannon's article...he's already 17
Pretty sure Shannon got it wrong, because he was playing on the ATL Celtics 16u team this summer.
XUFan09
07-30-2018, 01:04 PM
Regardless of what happens with Curtis, Beverly, Franklin, etc., though, this makes me feel much better about the point guard position long term. An impact player at that position starting in 2020 eases the tension on recruiting for sure.
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MITTENMUSKIE16
07-30-2018, 01:29 PM
Pretty sure Shannon got it wrong, because he was playing on the ATL Celtics 16u team this summer.
I think the cutoff for AAU basketball is August 31st. His birthday, per his twitter bio, is November 8th. So because he turned 17 after the cutoff date, he can still play 16Us.
But maybe Shannon did get it wrong, not sure.
scoscox
07-30-2018, 01:40 PM
From everything I've read, I am under the impression Curtis decommitted largely because of lack of potential playing time at the 1 as a freshman. With a 2020 top 50 kid in the fold, I think landing Curtis is even less likely. Just seems like he'd rather being in a situation with less competition for playing time.
You'll be hard pressed to go to any good high major school and get playing time as a freshman at point guard. Ohio State is supposed to be high on his list and they just signed DJ Carton
Also, I've heard he de-committed because he thought he may get offers from Ohio State or Indiana, which wouldn't be places where the competition is any less fierce
MarvAlbert
07-30-2018, 01:57 PM
For 16u, the age rule is "A player can be no older than 16 on August 31, 2018," I just looked it up. So shannon did indeed have his age wrong in her article.
GIMMFD
07-30-2018, 08:43 PM
You'll be hard pressed to go to any good high major school and get playing time as a freshman at point guard. Ohio State is supposed to be high on his list and they just signed DJ Carton
Also, I've heard he de-committed because he thought he may get offers from Ohio State or Indiana, which wouldn't be places where the competition is any less fierce
I agree with this, if you want to play for a top program, you're most likely not just going to waltz in and have a starting job handed to you unless you are a one and done talent. Samari, though very good, is not a one and done talent, he should expect to have to be in a position battle. Especially considering point guard is a pretty tough transition from HS to college due to the speed of the game and increase in athleticism. Hell, look at Q when he was thrown into the fire, he looked lost at first.
paulxu
08-04-2018, 12:28 PM
A few years ago when Gates was playing for St Francis HS I went down and watched him play as I had a buddy who lived close by.
Met his family, the coaches, etc. and was impressed by the school, and especially Kaiser's family.
Didn't notice till now that it is the same place Odom plays. (and someone noted Odom is Kaiser's cousin)
I have this vague memory of meeting some of the staff and someone had a Xavier connection. Don't remember who or exactly what the connection was.
Not sure if the individual had gone to X or what.
But they do get good talent at that school, and I'm glad Kaiser apparently put in a good word for X.
MarvAlbert
09-05-2018, 11:39 PM
Kinda looks like Dwon might already have a Xavier tattoo (https://twitter.com/dwonodom1/status/1037529245373947905?s=19)
sirthought
09-06-2018, 01:27 AM
I'm watching a few times over. I don't see an XU tat. Just the t-shirt.
xukeith
09-06-2018, 02:50 AM
Not that anything of these sites matter, but he is NOT on top 100 on any rankings. He is 129 on 247 sports and then it shows 40 in nation. So it is all a mess. Hope he commits with King!
I'm watching a few times over. I don't see an XU tat. Just the t-shirt.
Looked like there might have been one on his right pec.
I’ve gotten to dread when these commit threads pop back up.....
XU3232
09-06-2018, 08:23 AM
Not that anything of these sites matter, but he is NOT on top 100 on any rankings. He is 129 on 247 sports and then it shows 40 in nation. So it is all a mess. Hope he commits with King!
He is ranked 39th by 247 I believe... and Elias King is not going to recommit back to X. He will end up at Georgia most likely.
Xville
09-06-2018, 09:13 AM
Not that anything of these sites matter, but he is NOT on top 100 on any rankings. He is 129 on 247 sports and then it shows 40 in nation. So it is all a mess. Hope he commits with King!
So I believe what I say below is correct:
24/7 ranks him 39
The 24/7 composite which I believe is made up of several recruiting sites (dont know which ones) and then averaged out has him at 129. That's a huge difference obviously.
XUFan09
09-06-2018, 09:20 AM
So I believe what I say below is correct:
24/7 ranks him 39
The 24/7 composite which I believe is made up of several recruiting sites (dont know which ones) and then averaged out has him at 129. That's a huge difference obviously.
Yep. He is probably unranked in one of the sites, screwing up the average.
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Xville
09-06-2018, 09:28 AM
Yep. He is probably unranked in one of the sites, screwing up the average.
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Yeah I looked up where he was at on ESPN and it looked like he hasnt been evaluated in quite some time by them. They still have him listed as being 5'11.
XUFan09
09-06-2018, 09:41 AM
Yeah I looked up where he was at on ESPN and it looked like he hasnt been evaluated in quite some time by them. They still have him listed as being 5'11.Wow they don't even list him as verballed to Xavier and that's been true for awhile now. ESPN was never the best recruiting service but they really have fallen off. It wouldn't surprise me if they don't even have the resources to properly evaluate juniors. They still only list a top 60.
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Juice
09-06-2018, 09:45 AM
So I believe what I say below is correct:
24/7 ranks him 39
The 24/7 composite which I believe is made up of several recruiting sites (dont know which ones) and then averaged out has him at 129. That's a huge difference obviously.
I trust the 247/Scout guys way more than Rivals or ESPN anyways.
XUFan09
09-06-2018, 09:47 AM
I trust the 247/Scout guys way more than Rivals or ESPN anyways.Yep, me too. In this case, Rivals pretty much agrees with 247/Scout, but as a general principle, I don't rely on them.
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XUGRAD80
09-06-2018, 09:49 AM
Rivals has him as the 7 best PG and 40th overall for the class of 2020. Also has him listed at 6’3” and 180 lbs.
BMoreX
09-06-2018, 10:34 AM
I'm frankly surprised 247 even includes ESPN's rankings in their composite at this point. Like others have said, ESPN Recruiting has really slacked off in recent years.
xukeith
06-07-2019, 09:45 PM
I'm frankly surprised 247 even includes ESPN's rankings in their composite at this point. Like others have said, ESPN Recruiting has really slacked off in recent years.
So Odom went from 24/7 top 40 to 110-119? Explain that!
Muskie in dayton
06-07-2019, 09:58 PM
So Odom went from 24/7 top 40 to 110-119? Explain that!
Recruiting rankings are pointless.
Xuperman
06-07-2019, 10:06 PM
I posted a list last week from 247 (Top247) that had him a fast riser at #43. I also have run across a small amount of info that indicates he is killing it in spring ball for a team named Atlanta Celtics......Are you seeing an updated 247 list? Regardless, Odom, and now Wilcher will go nicely with our Fab 5 plus Carter for 20-21.
I posted a list last week from 247 (Top247) that had him a fast riser at #43. I also have run across a small amount of info that indicates he is killing it in spring ball for a team named Atlanta Celtics......Are you seeing an updated 247 list? Regardless, Odom, and now Wilcher will go nicely with our Fab 5 plus Carter for 20-21.
Thanks, you’ve inspired me to look up the Atlanta Celtics.
Juice
06-07-2019, 10:47 PM
So Odom went from 24/7 top 40 to 110-119? Explain that!
You're looking at his composite ranking. His composite national ranking is 116. There is another ranking underneath that which is only 247's ranking of him. It is 44.
scoscox
06-08-2019, 02:16 AM
Thanks, you’ve inspired me to look up the Atlanta Celtics.
aau alma mater of dwight howard
scoscox
06-08-2019, 02:23 AM
You're looking at his composite ranking. His composite national ranking is 116. There is another ranking underneath that which is only 247's ranking of him. It is 44.
espn only ranks 100 guys, so leaving him unranked on that site and being 44 and 66 on the other two sites, i don't know how his composite goes down to 116. not that it matters, just found that curious
GIMMFD
06-08-2019, 02:27 PM
espn only ranks 100 guys, so leaving him unranked on that site and being 44 and 66 on the other two sites, i don't know how his composite goes down to 116. not that it matters, just found that curious
I think where he's unranked they factor that ESPN weight in and basically give it like a "0" you know? Where you have 3 100s on 3 assignments, and 1 zero, and boom you're down to a 74 and getting a C in class
Xuperman
06-12-2019, 06:43 AM
Thanks, you’ve inspired me to look up the Atlanta Celtics.
https://www.exposuresportsnews.com/page/show/4928388-atlanta-celtics-ga-
I stumble across this site that has detailed stats and box scores of Odom’s Atlanta Celtics AAU team. They play in the Adidas Gauntlet circuit and are in 1st place (12-3) heading into the summer schedule. The numbers show that Dwon is very consistent assist man that can really score inside the arc. Not much interest in shooting 3’s and his FT% needs work. His HS numbers are much more inflated but reflect a similar pattern.
What I didn’t know, Deivon Smith is on the team and is the leading scorer. He holds an offer from X and Coach Hayes is the lead recruiter. I have a feeling he may end up being a Musketeer.
xufan2020
06-12-2019, 12:55 PM
https://www.exposuresportsnews.com/page/show/4928388-atlanta-celtics-ga-
I stumble across this site that has detailed stats and box scores of Odom’s Atlanta Celtics AAU team. They play in the Adidas Gauntlet circuit and are in 1st place (12-3) heading into the summer schedule. The numbers show that Dwon is very consistent assist man that can really score inside the arc. Not much interest in shooting 3’s and his FT% needs work. His HS numbers are much more inflated but reflect a similar pattern.
What I didn’t know, Deivon Smith is on the team and is the leading scorer. He holds an offer from X and Coach Hayes is the lead recruiter. I have a feeling he may end up being a Musketeer.
The site lists Smith at 6’2 lol. I hope Smith ends up at Xavier, but I feel like it would be a tough sell with such a currently loaded backcourt. I really hope Ambrose-Hylton or Colby Jones ends up being the 4th guy in 2020 after Carlson
Xuperman
06-12-2019, 04:39 PM
The site lists Smith at 6’2 lol. I hope Smith ends up at Xavier, but I feel like it would be a tough sell with such a currently loaded backcourt. I really hope Ambrose-Hylton or Colby Jones ends up being the 4th guy in 2020 after Carlson
Keep in mind that the guard cupboard will be be bare IF Paul goes pro. The way I see it is that we will have to deal with 2 second year guys to mesh with Dwon and a unknown future recruit. It seems that Coach Hayes likes Smith and I tend to agree.
X-man
06-14-2019, 06:55 AM
This, from 247Sports reporting on the NBPA Top 100 camp:
"Dwon Odom excelled on the second day of NBPA Top 100 Camp. In two games, Odom was 15-for-28 from the field, scoring 33 points, grabbing 10 rebounds and tossing out six assists. An early pledge to Xavier, Odom showed off an aggressive style of play. He’s quick and an impressive athlete that impacts the game in transition and in the half court. Odom can certainly score, but he has good vision and can distribute as well. Through the first full day of action, Odom is third in scoring for the camp.
Recruiting: Committed to Xavier"
Xuperman
06-14-2019, 11:25 AM
http://top100camp.com/stats/
Wow, we may have the best pure high school PG in the country arriving on campus this time next year. Very excited to see if he can continue to put up these crazy numbers for the remaining games but man, he has to work on his FT%.
He’s playing for the Bulls and they are currently 1-2, so most likely they won’t get very deep in tomorrow’s tournament.
GIMMFD
06-14-2019, 11:59 AM
This, from 247Sports reporting on the NBPA Top 100 camp:
"Dwon Odom excelled on the second day of NBPA Top 100 Camp. In two games, Odom was 15-for-28 from the field, scoring 33 points, grabbing 10 rebounds and tossing out six assists. An early pledge to Xavier, Odom showed off an aggressive style of play. He’s quick and an impressive athlete that impacts the game in transition and in the half court. Odom can certainly score, but he has good vision and can distribute as well. Through the first full day of action, Odom is third in scoring for the camp.
Recruiting: Committed to Xavier"
10 rebounds is what sticks out to me, sounds like he has good awareness, wonder how much of a shooting threat he can become, to be honest that description reminds me a lot of Semaj, incredibly athletic, could get the rim and score, also thought he was a solid point guard. I like that he has good vision and distributing skills, especially with the other weapons we're in on in the 2020 class, and not to mention this 2019 class, I'm giddy at the thought of Odom's pure athletic ability with Tandy, and shooters like Wilcher and Bishop to be honest.
X-man
06-15-2019, 07:28 AM
More on Odom at the NBPA Top 100 Camp from 247Sports:
"Dwon Odom, PG, 2020
With his combination of strength, and explosion off the bounce, Dwon Odom drove to the bucket at will and finished was the leading scorer at the camp with 16.5 points per game. The 6-foot-1 Odom showed off his big time athleticism and elite speed. He is especially dangerous in transition, but he is also comfortable in the halfcourt. Odom has pretty good feel for the game, elite athleticism, and a motor that never stops. He only made one three point jumper, so that was the problem for him at the camp, but the reality is no one could stay in front of him, and Odom was consistently the best guard on the court all week long.
Recruiting: Committed to Xavier"
This is from an article on the top 10 performers at the camp.
Xuperman
06-15-2019, 09:17 AM
Yeah, in his 2 games yesterday he scored 33 pts and dished out 8 assists. Let’s keep in mind that this is against what the NBPA considers the top 100 HS guys in the country, all trying to make an impression on the NBA types that organize this event.
What’s unique about Odom is that his entire 2018-19 HS stats are available on Maxpreps, there are the stats for the 15 games played on the Adidas circuit I posted earlier and now the NBPA numbers. That’s over 50 games worth of info. I can’t find anything close to that on any of our incoming guys, so you have a very detailed scouting report.
There is a very distinct and somewhat predictable pattern to Odom’s game. He rarely scores in single digits, finds his teammates at an elite level and is active on the boards and also defensively because his steals rate is high. You can also see that he doesn’t look to take many 3’s because his % is not good and he knows it. Not a consistent FT shooter either. What we have here is a physically gifted “old school baller” that loves to slash the paint and can quarterback a team with confidence and lead by example. Sorry to gush but he is just very impressive.
Xuperman
06-16-2019, 09:59 AM
Dwon finished off the event with another impressive scoring number that included 8-8 from the line, so potentially he could become a solid FT shooter by the time he gets here.
xukeith
06-16-2019, 04:15 PM
Dwon finished off the event with another impressive scoring number that included 8-8 from the line, so potentially he could become a solid FT shooter by the time he gets here.
Tu Holloway sent him an inspirational tweet so now he will make free throws.
Tu Holloway sent him an inspirational tweet so now he will make free throws.
Well, he may need a bigger, sturdier jock.
GIMMFD
06-16-2019, 08:44 PM
Well, he may need a bigger, sturdier jock.
Dwon Odom, Balls of Steele Tu?? Okay I'll see myself out after that.
XUGRAD80
06-17-2019, 06:44 AM
for those of you that don't read the recruiting sites on a regular basis, these are the comments by 24/7 and Rivals after the NBPA Top 100 Camp....
24/7
"With his combination of strength, and explosion off the bounce, Dwon Odom drove to the basket at will and finished was the leading scorer at the camp with 16.5 points per game. The 6-foot-1 Odom showed off his big time athleticism and elite speed. He is especially dangerous in transition, but is also comfortable in the halfcourt. Odom has pretty good feel for the game, elite athleticism, and a motor that never stops. he only made one three point jumper, so that was the problem for him at the camp, but the reality is no one could stay in front of him, and Odom was consistently the best guard on the court all week long."
Rivals
Dwon Odom's commitment to Xavier nearly a year ago didn't make much of a commotion but it should have because he is going to be a major reason why the Musketeers will compete for Big east titles in the coming years. Built to compete, Odom is a downhill assassin. He finished among the leaders in scoring and field goals made and is just the type of blue-collar guard that Xavier fans will come to love." (by the way they have him listed at 6'3" and 180lbs)
UCGRAD4X
06-17-2019, 08:53 AM
"Downhill Assassin"
Xuperman
09-16-2019, 04:35 AM
https://mobile.twitter.com/jusaunh
https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/Jusaun-Holt-Georgia-Tech-2021-Wing-133185115/
This is very interesting. Xavier offers fast rising 2021 SF Jusaun Holt. Looks like he’s a teammate of Odom’s at St. Francis! That has to bode well for X in landing him. I mean, you know he looks up to Dwon and will no doubt influence his decision to some degree. Did a little digging on him and noticed that he was a very consistent scorer as a sophomore at St. F and saved his best for the State Championship game.
https://www.mdjonline.com/neighbor_newspapers/north_fulton/sports/st-francis-boys-basketball-wins-state-title/article_bf04ea28-43ff-11e9-b579-1385a5c0d912.html
He continued to impress in the spring/summer playing for the AAU 16U Atlanta Celtics, so again a strong connection to Odom. Maybe he will follow his lead and commit early as a junior.
https://sandysspiel.com/tag/jusaun-holt/
xukeith
09-16-2019, 01:25 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/jusaunh
https://247sports.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/Jusaun-Holt-Georgia-Tech-2021-Wing-133185115/
This is very interesting. Xavier offers fast rising 2021 SF Jusaun Holt. Looks like he’s a teammate of Odom’s at St. Francis! That has to bode well for X in landing him. I mean, you know he looks up to Dwon and will no doubt influence his decision to some degree. Did a little digging on him and noticed that he was a very consistent scorer as a sophomore at St. F and saved his best for the State Championship game.
https://www.mdjonline.com/neighbor_newspapers/north_fulton/sports/st-francis-boys-basketball-wins-state-title/article_bf04ea28-43ff-11e9-b579-1385a5c0d912.html
He continued to impress in the spring/summer playing for the AAU 16U Atlanta Celtics, so again a strong connection to Odom. Maybe he will follow his lead and commit early as a junior.
https://sandysspiel.com/tag/jusaun-holt/
Thanks for the research. The future looks bright for X. I have high hopes for the Odom led class. It should be very special over the next 3-4 years.
The Goodin/Scruggs/Marshall perimeter threat is still a big question mark BUT they showcased they can play lock-down defense. X will go as far as the defense and rebounding goes. Having top level talent doesn't hurt. Need 2-3 consistent 3 point threats!
sirthought
09-16-2019, 04:33 PM
Are we already thread derailing to 2021? Xuperman just can't help himself.
How many spots do we have left for 2021? Two for sure?
If Carlson commits and Scruggs and Marshall declare, we'll have three. I think.
There are a LOT of 2021 offers made already, according to 247. I bet the staff continues to lean towards more size even if we close on Carlson. It would be a great story if Mutombo's son actually ended up at Xavier. Sort of full circle for the program in the modern national stage.
I say we chill on this analysis until at least mid season. It's too far away to how things could fall.
Xuperman
09-16-2019, 05:11 PM
I only posted this RELEVENT RECRUITING NEWS here because it's DWON ODOM related.
Xuperman
09-22-2019, 05:31 AM
"Downhill Assassin"
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jVqHB2VcsJQ
He effectively ended the dunk contest after that last one!
MADXSTER
04-03-2020, 04:27 PM
Does Odom remind anyone else of a PG Dez Wells or is it just me?
xudash
04-03-2020, 04:33 PM
Does Odom remind anyone else of a PG Dez Wells or is it just me?
It's exciting if he is a DW Clone, or reasonable facsimile thereof.
Does Odom remind anyone else of a PG Dez Wells or is it just me?
I get the connection. I was never more excited about a recruit Xavier landed than I was about Dez Wells. He just looked like a athletic super hero with the ball in his hand- some one who (at least at that time) usually got scooped up by one of those top sevenish programs who can pretty much hand pick the players they want. I remember thinking, this kid is from Carolina. How the hell is he not going to Duke or UNC. He looked that dominant. that talented. that polished. That far superior to the players he was playing against - much like Odom now looks like in his videos. I’m pretty sure I literally drooled every time I watched Wells’ hi light reel, knowing he was coming to X.
The only X recruit who came close to Dez (prior to last year) was Jalen Reynolds. Reynolds looked like a manly beast among boys. But now Odom not only has those qualities (albeit in a smaller frame) but he also looks much more polished and versatile than Jalen did (like Dez). Kyky might also be on my list of top 5 recruits X landed that I was most excited about just by watching his high school tapes.
That’s not to say I wasn’t blown away by with both Tre and JP’s tapes where they were scoring machines. But no one come off like gifted athletic freaks with super human abilities in their HS tapes like Dez and Odom. I will be very, very surprised if Odom isn’t averaging at least 28 minutes a game during his freshman campaign.
Lloyd Braun
04-03-2020, 06:01 PM
Does Odom remind anyone else of a PG Dez Wells or is it just me?
Yes. I have compared him to Eric Bledsoe which may be lofty expectations but he looks like the real deal.
MHettel
04-03-2020, 06:04 PM
I get the connection. I was never more excited about a recruit Xavier landed than I was about Dez Wells. He just looked like a athletic super hero with the ball in his hand- some one who (at least at that time) usually got scooped up by one of those top sevenish programs who can pretty much hand pick the players they want. I remember thinking, this kid is from Carolina. How the hell is he not going to Duke or UNC. He looked that dominant. that talented. that polished. That far superior to the players he was playing against - much like Odom now looks like in his videos. I’m pretty sure I literally drooled every time I watched Wells’ hi light reel, knowing he was coming to X.
The only X recruit who came close to Dez (prior to last year) was Jalen Reynolds. Reynolds looked like a manly beast among boys. But now Odom not only has those qualities (albeit in a smaller frame) but he also looks much more polished and versatile than Jalen did (like Dez). Kyky might also be on my list of top 5 recruits X landed that I was most excited about just by watching his high school tapes.
That’s not to say I wasn’t blown away by with both Tre and JP’s tapes where they were scoring machines. But no one come off like gifted athletic freaks with super human abilities in their HS tapes like Dez and Odom. I will be very, very surprised if Odom isn’t averaging at least 28 minutes a game during his freshman campaign.
Not athletic by any means....but Redfords highlights were Tecmo Bowl level almost fake. 3's from everywhere. 95% of the highlights were just crazy 3's.
Lets just say that the competition was a little step up when he went to college.
GIMMFD
04-03-2020, 10:23 PM
I get the connection. I was never more excited about a recruit Xavier landed than I was about Dez Wells. He just looked like a athletic super hero with the ball in his hand- some one who (at least at that time) usually got scooped up by one of those top sevenish programs who can pretty much hand pick the players they want. I remember thinking, this kid is from Carolina. How the hell is he not going to Duke or UNC. He looked that dominant. that talented. that polished. That far superior to the players he was playing against - much like Odom now looks like in his videos. I’m pretty sure I literally drooled every time I watched Wells’ hi light reel, knowing he was coming to X.
The only X recruit who came close to Dez (prior to last year) was Jalen Reynolds. Reynolds looked like a manly beast among boys. But now Odom not only has those qualities (albeit in a smaller frame) but he also looks much more polished and versatile than Jalen did (like Dez). Kyky might also be on my list of top 5 recruits X landed that I was most excited about just by watching his high school tapes.
That’s not to say I wasn’t blown away by with both Tre and JP’s tapes where they were scoring machines. But no one come off like gifted athletic freaks with super human abilities in their HS tapes like Dez and Odom. I will be very, very surprised if Odom isn’t averaging at least 28 minutes a game during his freshman campaign.
Not to mention Dez started at Word of God Christian Academy where his teammate was John Wall, then went to Hargrave so he was doing it against great competition. I'm still pretty close friends with Dez, and happy to see him doing well, one of the best moments I remember was I think it was his first year at Maryland in the conference tournament they were playing Duke, and I think he put up like 30 that game, and I noticed Krzyzewski said something to him as they were going through the handshake line, and I texted him and had to ask, "dude, what did Coach K say?" and he said, "you won't believe this but he said I was the best player on the court today." Dez was athletic like hell, his ball handling needed a little work, as well as jump shot, but his work ethic was awesome, I'd go rebound for him in the aux gym at like 2am on random nights, he's a good dude.
MADXSTER
04-03-2020, 10:50 PM
Does Dez know how well regarded he is at Xavier?
Does Dez know how well regarded he is at Xavier?
His Gold Star is a secret.
bobbiemcgee
04-03-2020, 11:11 PM
My X paranoia is showing. When I saw this thread reappear I was thinking the worst.
GIMMFD
04-03-2020, 11:45 PM
Does Dez know how well regarded he is at Xavier?
We haven't really talked about the situation since it happened to be honest, he definitely knew a decent amount of the students at the time were all aboard the #FreeDez train, obviously I didn't want to put any of his business out there, but he definitely put it behind him once he got to Maryland. For what it's worth though, one of my roommates was also on the soccer team at X and buddies with Dez as well, and they traded some X soccer gear for Maryland basketball gear, so I'm pretty sure he has no hard feelings about it. Plus he still keeps in touch with a small group of us, not to mention his name was cleared basically in the whole case, I just don't plan on bringing it up unless he does haha.
sirthought
04-04-2020, 02:04 AM
I never thought of Wells, but I guess Odom can jump like him. I seem to draw more of a connection to Tu Holloway in that Odom seems to have really good dribble control and the confidence to move through traffic in the same way Holloway did. In some ways I think he might be a better ball handler than Holloway, but it's premature to really know that for sure.
I see Odom and Tandy being very similar to Holloway and Lyons, only maybe better. Both guys need to get use to shooting around college defenses, but I think this backcourt could really be special.
MHettel
04-04-2020, 04:26 PM
I see Odom and Tandy being very similar to Holloway and Lyons, only maybe better. Both guys need to get use to shooting around college defenses, but I think this backcourt could really be special.
How about this memory of Tu as a Freshman. After 2 meaningless cupcake games the team went to some destination tournament and played 3 games.
Holloway was already playing meaningful minutes and put up this stat line over the 3 games: 67 minutes played. 2-8 shooting. 6 rebounds. 6 assists. 2 steals. 5 turnovers. 7 fouls...…
….oh yeah, he was 20 for 20 from the FT line and ICED 2 of the 3 games.
Steel Balls.
How about this memory of Tu as a Freshman. After 2 meaningless cupcake games the team went to some destination tournament and played 3 games.
Holloway was already playing meaningful minutes and put up this stat line over the 3 games: 67 minutes played. 2-8 shooting. 6 rebounds. 6 assists. 2 steals. 5 turnovers. 7 fouls...…
….oh yeah, he was 20 for 20 from the FT line and ICED 2 of the 3 games.
Steel Balls.
That was when I fell in love......
Xuperman
05-06-2020, 09:04 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XTOXwC_yTNI
I really like this one....a nice send off and tribute to a now, Georgia High School Legend.
Just try and break a smile watching! :clap:
murray87
05-06-2020, 12:37 PM
He seems fairly confident taking the ball to the hole :jig:
UCGRAD4X
05-07-2020, 04:27 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XTOXwC_yTNI
I really like this one....a nice send off and tribute to a now, Georgia High School Legend.
Just try and break a smile watching! :clap:
Bit of a show boat and a trash talker. But, like JP and Tyrique, as long as they can back it up...and they play for Xavier...
He hit all of the three point attempts he took.
paulxu
05-07-2020, 05:08 PM
Actually he made 22 3pt shots in 32 games, so you may have seen all of them on that clip.
But the good news is that it was 39% of the attempts.
And on 2 pt shooting (obviously mostly drives) he shot 69%.
Lloyd Braun
05-07-2020, 06:16 PM
Actually he made 22 3pt shots in 32 games, so you may have seen all of them on that clip.
But the good news is that it was 39% of the attempts.
And on 2 pt shooting (obviously mostly drives) he shot 69%.
Nice
XUGRAD80
05-20-2020, 02:13 PM
Rivals Final 2020 Rankings have him as the #10 ranked point guard in the class. Tops of all the PG recruits by BE schools.
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