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GoMuskies
07-18-2018, 04:22 PM
Last year it was released on...July 18. So it cannot be long now!

Lloyd Braun
07-24-2018, 09:44 AM
Will be announced shortly. I will guess:
1. Duke
2. Gonzaga
3. Auburn
4. Iowa st
5. SDSU
6. Xavier
7. Arizona
8. Illinois

Lloyd Braun
07-24-2018, 09:49 AM
Well i was a bit off

From Jon Rothstein
“2018 Maui Invitational Bracket, per multiple sources: Auburn/Xavier, Duke/San Diego State, Arizona/Iowa State, Gonzaga/Illinois.”

muskiefan82
07-24-2018, 09:58 AM
I missed the SEC last year...good to see them back on the schedule in some way

Lloyd Braun
07-24-2018, 10:21 AM
Auburn is preseason top 10-15 team too. Will be nice to play them.

BMoreX
07-24-2018, 10:22 AM
9:30 am local time game start.

94GRAD
07-24-2018, 10:29 AM
9:30 am local time game start.

Kegs-N-Eggs on deck!!!!

SM#24
07-24-2018, 10:46 AM
Kegs-N-Eggs on deck!!!!

Kegs-N-Eggs on beach !!!!!

drudy23
07-24-2018, 11:27 AM
Bring on the Dukies....hopefully.

webxu
07-24-2018, 12:56 PM
Lets beat the tigers first..

atljar
07-24-2018, 01:06 PM
I hate Duke.

muskiefan82
07-24-2018, 01:51 PM
I hate Duke.

What are "Things that are true, Alex?"

drudy23
07-24-2018, 02:25 PM
Lets beat the tigers first..

That's not for me to worry about.

GIMMFD
07-24-2018, 02:32 PM
Talk about a helluva opening game, a pre-season top team returning a lot of talent, and then our reward is that if we get by them, we get probably the number one team in the nation Duke. How sweet would it be to knock both of them off in this tournament?? It's going to be a great test for our guys, and for Coach Steele to go up against two established veterans in Bruce Pearl and Mike Krzyzewski, I'm pretty excited about the draw. Good match-ups.

MITTENMUSKIE16
07-24-2018, 02:37 PM
That sure would be a nice boost to our Nonconference. As has been documented, a lot of that NCSOS is relying on Maui (but not all). Looking forward to seeing what our core-four and the rest are made of on November 19th.

On a side note, I learned that I don't have class that entire week... It's my birthday that Saturday, so the stars might be aligning for me to take a trip to Maui...

X-band '01
07-24-2018, 03:14 PM
Talk about a helluva opening game, a pre-season top team returning a lot of talent, and then our reward is that if we get by them, we get probably the number one team in the nation Duke. How sweet would it be to knock both of them off in this tournament?? It's going to be a great test for our guys, and for Coach Steele to go up against two established veterans in Bruce Pearl and Mike Krzyzewski, I'm pretty excited about the draw. Good match-ups.

Lots of people saying Gonzaga could also #1 this year as well. They seeded Gonzaga like #1 in this bracket and Duke #2 (with Auburn at #3).

xeus
07-24-2018, 04:13 PM
Lets beat the tigers first..

With that logic we should really only be concerned with IUPUI.

bleedXblue
07-24-2018, 04:18 PM
I think our guys will be super motivated to play and will want Duke in the next round........plus we have done very well against the SEC over the last 10 years.

X-band '01
07-24-2018, 04:37 PM
With that logic we should really only be concerned with IUPUI.

They're eventually going to be rebranded as IU-Indianapolis. Our other favorite acronym was rebranded as Purdue-Fort Wayne.

whopper
07-24-2018, 04:54 PM
I would have killed to play Duke last year. Bagley, Carter Allen, Duval, Trent...We would have had more than a puncher's chance and to see if our guys could step it up would have been amazing. Don't forget FSU split with Duke..damn I need to think of the future..

markchal
07-24-2018, 05:07 PM
I wish we were playing in this tournament with any other team from the last 4 years. Oh well

MITTENMUSKIE16
07-24-2018, 05:11 PM
2015-16 team just absolutely pummeled through its non-conference. Would’ve been nice to see them play this tournament. They might’ve had 7 close games all year.

xeus
07-24-2018, 06:59 PM
This tournament is a great opportunity to sneak up on people.

GIMMFD
07-24-2018, 08:44 PM
I wish we were playing in this tournament with any other team from the last 4 years. Oh well

I don't know, it would be great if it were a little later in the non-conference, because it would give the guys some more time to work kinks out, but I think we have a pretty solid roster, Q and Scruggs are pretty damn athletic and can get to the hole, if they can show that their three point shot actually did improve (which it had every indication it did) and get it a little better over the off season it would help out tremendously. We've seen flashes of Naji's potential, but now he'll have a bigger stage to step it up, and Tyrique is great when not fouling. It's just all about if the new pieces fit in well, if Welage and Hankins are as good as advertised, then I think we have a solid core of weapons to score, and with Steele focusing on defense more, it could come together well. I really think we're going to be pleasantly surprised next year.

MITTENMUSKIE16
07-24-2018, 08:47 PM
I don't know, it would be great if it were a little later in the non-conference, because it would give the guys some more time to work kinks out, but I think we have a pretty solid roster, Q and Scruggs are pretty damn athletic and can get to the hole, if they can show that their three point shot actually did improve (which it had every indication it did) and get it a little better over the off season it would help out tremendously. We've seen flashes of Naji's potential, but now he'll have a bigger stage to step it up, and Tyrique is great when not fouling. It's just all about if the new pieces fit in well, if Welage and Hankins are as good as advertised, then I think we have a solid core of weapons to score, and with Steele focusing on defense more, it could come together well. I really think we're going to be pleasantly surprised next year.

This. The core-4 from last year and auxiliary pieces. We will be different, and not top ten, but borderline top 25 I think is a good spot for this team to land.

sirthought
07-25-2018, 12:52 AM
I don't know, it would be great if it were a little later in the non-conference, because it would give the guys some more time to work kinks out, but I think we have a pretty solid roster, Q and Scruggs are pretty damn athletic and can get to the hole, if they can show that their three point shot actually did improve (which it had every indication it did) and get it a little better over the off season it would help out tremendously. We've seen flashes of Naji's potential, but now he'll have a bigger stage to step it up, and Tyrique is great when not fouling. It's just all about if the new pieces fit in well, if Welage and Hankins are as good as advertised, then I think we have a solid core of weapons to score, and with Steele focusing on defense more, it could come together well. I really think we're going to be pleasantly surprised next year.

I admire your optimism. I'm excited about this team, so let's not get that wrong, but:
- Steele focusing more on defense and seeing it first game are two different things. Training camp may break out the beast, or it might take a while.

- Goodin and Scruggs struggled against quick guards in key games. (They did improve!) Fitness will be key. Can they move better laterally and close the gaps? Will they get tired trying and lose their shooting legs? I'm glad we brought in some shooters to help Steele's offense.

- Goodin, Scruggs and Marshall will be great this season, but none have been the go to. Calling on them to perform first game out against a team of Auburn mostly juniors and seniors that are top 10 is asking a lot. Again, I like that the transfers have starter's experience and not be completely in the weeds.

Great tournament to gauge these guys. Auburn is a big challenge with a lot of scoring power. Two guards in Brown and Harper were first and second team SEC. They'll be starting one of the best 2017 freshmen in Okeke. And 6'11" 260 pound center Wiley and 6'8' wing Purifoy sat out last year due to the FBI investigation in Chuck Pearson, but as a freshmen Purifoy averaged 12 ppg and Wiley 8 ppg. As a team they didn't rebound anywhere near as well as XU, so hopefully that continues.

GIMMFD
07-25-2018, 01:41 AM
I admire your optimism. I'm excited about this team, so let's not get that wrong, but:
- Steele focusing more on defense and seeing it first game are two different things. Training camp may break out the beast, or it might take a while.

- Goodin and Scruggs struggled against quick guards in key games. (They did improve!) Fitness will be key. Can they move better laterally and close the gaps? Will they get tired trying and lose their shooting legs? I'm glad we brought in some shooters to help Steele's offense.

- Goodin, Scruggs and Marshall will be great this season, but none have been the go to. Calling on them to perform first game out against a team of Auburn mostly juniors and seniors that are top 10 is asking a lot. Again, I like that the transfers have starter's experience and not be completely in the weeds.

Great tournament to gauge these guys. Auburn is a big challenge with a lot of scoring power. Two guards in Brown and Harper were first and second team SEC. They'll be starting one of the best 2017 freshmen in Okeke. And 6'11" 260 pound center Wiley and 6'8' wing Purifoy sat out last year due to the FBI investigation in Chuck Pearson, but as a freshmen Purifoy averaged 12 ppg and Wiley 8 ppg. As a team they didn't rebound anywhere near as well as XU, so hopefully that continues.

I didn't necessarily mean it as we're going to take care of Auburn in the first game, I meant it more as the potential is there to do so. I think we do have a lot of questions about our roster currently, but I see a lot of attractive pieces that could mesh together, and we could be playing some very good basketball by March. I would have loved to see last year's team in this tournament, but I still think we have a good roster as Mitten said should flirt with the top 25 teams in the country at times, which would be amazing for a first year head coach. To get into your points now:

Agreed, I do think it's going to be a transition period for the defense, but the good thing is we have an entire summer to prepare and scout Auburn. I don't expect us to be the top defensive team in the country, but if we can improve on the clear lapses we had last year at times, we'll be fine. I think we're more athletic this year, which means we can be better defensively. It's good that we brought in Castlin as he's known for defense, and hopefully he has some tricks that he can help teach our other guards. Another good thing about that is going up against that in practice every day, it translates to helping us offensively, and defensively.

Yes they did struggle against quicker guards, especially Arizona State, that game was an absolute nightmare. I don't think we need Goodin and Scruggs to be a constant deep threat, however just show they're capable of making that shot so defenses can't lag on them how they have in the past. It opens up lanes to cut in for our wings, our big men have more space to operate, and just opens up the floor in general. I agree though it's nice that Welage and Castlin again can knock down some perimeter shots, as it'll take a little pressure off of Scruggs and Q. Hopefully Naji improves in that aspect too, even though he only attempted 43 threes, he did shoot a decent 35%, so if that improves even a little bit, it opens up a whole different dimension to his game.

I also agree, we were blessed with Tre, JP, and even Kanter who could all drop 20 at the drop of a hat last year. It's going to be a huge step up in role for all three of them, and I agree Auburn's experience is going to be a factor. We are lucky that Q is a Junior now and was thrown into the fire his Freshman year, as he's pretty battle tested and should be alright going against them, and luckily we got big minutes out of Naji and Scruggs as Freshman. They won't be used to the new role, but they have seen a lot of game time, so the speed of the play won't be an issue rather than just staying within themselves and not forcing a lot of things. It'll be interesting to see how the transfers mesh with our core, hopefully they build some good rapport over the summer, but regardless you're right, it'll be an adjustment.

All in all, yup, this tournament is going to be a battle. Even getting by Auburn would be an amazing task in itself, let alone having to play Duke. We have a lot of questions, and you highlighted Auburn's team. They're going to be good. It's going to be a good way to throw our guys into the fire and see what we're made of, at the end of the day I won't be pissed with a loss or anything, but I wouldn't be completely shocked if we were to win this game. Auburn has spread out weapons, as do we, and it should be fun to see what happens.

UCGRAD4X
07-25-2018, 09:39 AM
9:30 am local time game start.

9:30 a.m. is Hawaii time. ESPN2 at 2:30 p.m. ET

Duke / San Diego State listed as noon Hawaii time - so - right after X/Auburn

IndyMuskie
07-25-2018, 07:58 PM
Matching up with Auburn is a great early season test. They're returning a lot of guys from their SEC Championship roster. I think this'll be a close game, early in the season and teammates need to establish chemistry still.

webxu
07-26-2018, 08:34 AM
One game at a time....