Dontaie Allen [Archive] - Xavier Message Board

xufan02

07-08-2018, 12:17 PM

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/4882108/5abdd501ff01c91504beae87

Looks like a stud. Flying under the radar and likes Xavier and Travis Steele. Looks really underrated.

I wouldnt neccisarly say he is flying under the radar, he has double digit major offers.

scoscox

07-08-2018, 12:51 PM

Well under the radar as far as recruiting rankings go

noteggs

07-17-2018, 04:59 PM

GIMMFD

07-17-2018, 08:38 PM

This kid does have game! Made HUGE jump in rankings after monster Under Tournament averaging 26+. Some rankings now have him in top 50 in 19 class. As Banners noted, X was favorite because of early interest and his knowledge of the program. Unfortunately, they also commented the longer he goes uncommitted, the chances he chooses X are slim. UK looking at him and just got offer from CM

It seems like we get in on people early but never get the luck of having them commit, hopefully Allen is different. We had a really unlucky cycle last year, and it'd be great if we could fill 2019 with some studs to get back on track. Fingers crossed Steel and co. built good rapport with him, and he wants to take X to new heights!

XUGRAD80

07-17-2018, 09:34 PM

Word locally is that he is waiting to see if UK offers. Coach Cal was at the game where he scored 30+. He is probably going to be the favorite for player of the year in KY, but that doesn’t mean an automatic offer from UK by any means. Most locals are hoping that it will be X if it isn’t UK. WVU, Va Tech, Vandy, and Perdue are all involved too.

scoscox

07-17-2018, 10:03 PM

Not saying they won't offer, but they already have a small forward committed and are going after a few others higher than him

Juice

07-17-2018, 10:53 PM

Not saying they won't offer, but they already have a small forward committed and are going after a few others higher than him

They've already offered and Allen is expected to jump big time in the rankings after the week he had.

XUGRAD80

07-18-2018, 06:32 AM

They've already offered and Allen is expected to jump big time in the rankings after the week he had.

According to Verbal Commits, 24/7, and Rivals UK has NOT offered yet. But they are hoping that he will do an unofficial visit sometime soon, and he may get an offer then. He has jumped into the #46 spot in the Rivals top 150 and is now ranked the top recruit in KY.

Pendleton County Ky has a population of right at 14,000. It’s very small and very rural. News travels fast around there. If he had an offer from UK it would be front page news in the Falmouth Outlook and people would be talking about it all the time. UK basketball is not quite a religion there, but it’s close. It’s actually in some ways more important than religion, because while churches seem to break up and reform all the time, UK BB love remains consistent. It unites the community, religion seems to separate it. My wife went to school there, we lived in the country for 11 years until we moved back north a year ago, we still attend church there (and always will), and I play in a county golf league every Monday. Unless something has changed in the last 48 hours, he hasn’t gotten the offer.....yet......or they are keeping it real quiet.

paulxu

07-18-2018, 08:13 AM

My wife went to school there, we lived in the country for 11 years until we moved back north a year ago, we still attend church there (and always will),

You commute from Canada for church?

XUGRAD80

07-18-2018, 09:17 AM

You commute from Canada for church?

Not quite....it only seems that way sometimes.

When I said country, I ment “out in the sticks”. Out in Pendleton county, not in any of the towns within the county. Our son moved into the old home place (my father in law built it upon coming back from WWII and lived there the rest of his life) when he got out of the USAF and we moved up to the southern outskirts of Cincinnati (10 mins to downtown). He just moved to Florence and I’m cleaning and painting it now so that we can sell it in the Spring. Sits on 4 acres that were part of the original 300 acre farm that my mother in law was born on. Land has been in my wife’s family for at least 5 generations. Going to be hard to sell it for my wife. We were married in the church out there that my wife grew up in. I’m a deacon there and she plays the piano/organ every Sunday.

XU 87

07-18-2018, 09:52 AM

They've already offered and Allen is expected to jump big time in the rankings after the week he had.

He was flying under the radar until SCOSCOX posted about him. Now look what happened. Way to go SCOSCOX.

Juice

07-18-2018, 09:57 AM

According to Verbal Commits, 24/7, and Rivals UK has NOT offered yet. But they are hoping that he will do an unofficial visit sometime soon, and he may get an offer then. He has jumped into the #46 spot in the Rivals top 150 and is now ranked the top recruit in KY.

Pendleton County Ky has a population of right at 14,000. It’s very small and very rural. News travels fast around there. If he had an offer from UK it would be front page news in the Falmouth Outlook and people would be talking about it all the time. UK basketball is not quite a religion there, but it’s close. It’s actually in some ways more important than religion, because while churches seem to break up and reform all the time, UK BB love remains consistent. It unites the community, religion seems to separate it. My wife went to school there, we lived in the country for 11 years until we moved back north a year ago, we still attend church there (and always will), and I play in a county golf league every Monday. Unless something has changed in the last 48 hours, he hasn’t gotten the offer.....yet......or they are keeping it real quiet.

Sorry. I thought he meant Xavier. Lazy reader here.

MITTENMUSKIE16

07-18-2018, 10:52 AM

Allen is taking unofficial visits to UK and UL the first couple weeks in August. We'll see if he picks up a UK offer by then- assuming they offer him on his unofficial.

noteggs

07-18-2018, 05:30 PM

After looking at chatter about Dontaie after the Under Armour tournament, I saw a tweet of top performers he was on and noticed a second name on the list - Devin Butts. After tournament, kid got a scholarship offer from X and has interest. He’s from Georgia so sure Coach Hayes has been scouting him. Based off some accounts, he is 3 star recruit but not ranked anywhere. After watching a little video, I was impressed with his ability to shoot and pass off the dribble. Very surprised on the lack of ranking and other offers. X and Houston were only majors.

Does anyone from the Georgia area know anything about this kid? Looks like he comes from good pedigree as his father played at Texas Tech and was second leading scorer.

XUGRAD80

07-18-2018, 05:38 PM

xu82

07-18-2018, 07:29 PM

I really hope that Donte comes to X. I think that he will be a great fit for both the B.B. team and the school and will really enjoy his time there. It would be real fun for my wife and I t watch a local kid playing against the BE teams on national TV. It would be real big for the community too. I’m afraid that at UK he would be just another player. But at X he can be a star.

I think that’s an enormous point that is often overlooked by kids who want to be courted by the biggest names they can attract. That’s not always the wise move.

GIMMFD

07-18-2018, 10:29 PM

I think that’s an enormous point that is often overlooked by kids who want to be courted by the biggest names they can attract. That’s not always the wise move.

Yeah but he'd still get a lot of exposure at UK, a more storied program, and probably a better chance to the NBA. I love X as much as everyone else here, but until we get more guys in the league and get a reputation for developing current NBA players, there's still going to be a bunch of kids who rather go to UK. Especially ones from Kentucky.

xu82

07-18-2018, 10:38 PM

yeah but he'd still get a lot of exposure at uk, a more storied program, and probably a better chance to the nba. I love x as much as everyone else here, but until we get more guys in the league and get a reputation for developing current nba players, there's still going to be a bunch of kids who rather go to uk. Especially ones from kentucky.

stfu!

:-)

XUGRAD80

07-19-2018, 08:11 AM

there's still going to be a bunch of kids who rather go to UK. Especially ones from Kentucky.

That’s a solid point. You can ask 85% of the people who grew up in KY who their favorite team is, and they will say UK (the other 15% grew up on Loserville). It doesn’t matter if they went to another college instate or out of state, or where they now live. Love of UK is ingrained through the generations and runs deep. I can’t imagine an instate kid ever turning down a BB scholarship offer from UK and going anywhere else (other than UL). I’m sure it’s happened before, but it would something extremely rare. There is also somewhat of a bias AGAINST Ohio and Indiana on the part of many within the state. But strangely enough, there has always seemed to be solid respect and even like for Xavier on the part of many people around the state, especially from within the area known as the “Golden Triangle” (NKY-Lexington-Louisville). I’ve heard many residents of Pendleton Co. express that they hope that if he doesn’t go to UK, that they hope he goes to X. They want to be able to go watch him play in person and don’t much care for UC or UL.

XUGRAD80

07-19-2018, 09:12 PM

joe titan

07-20-2018, 12:17 AM

Juice

07-20-2018, 12:32 AM

If those are "unofficial" visits would it not signal to the man that UK/Uof L are not that interested ? Lots take "unofficial" visits when they are just "exploring" the landscape, but if you have offers in hand from other definite alternatives...

No. A player can only take 5 official visits. If the player lives close to the school it's usually not wise to waste them on a school that a parent can easily just drive the kid to or have himself drive to. It's better to use those paid/official visits on schools that are farther away. I have no idea if that applies in this case but that's my guess.

GIMMFD

07-20-2018, 02:14 AM

....is scheduled to visit UK on Aug 1st, UL on August 13th......reported on gobigbluecountry.com that his mother has posted this on her FB page today.

A friend of mine that is a HUGE UK fan posted the link to this report up on her own FB page tonight.

Small county...news travels fast.

Yup, Mitten posted that a few posts ago, we'll know whether he gets an offer or not soon. Obviously if he does I don't like our chances very much, especially with all things considered. However, recruiting is a strange game, you never really know until they get on campus, and even then you don't know due to transfers and what not. Hopefully we get him, looks like he has some major game, but if not, it's on to the next one, we still have a chance at a pretty damn good class of 2019 if pieces around Elias King come together.

scoscox

07-22-2018, 05:48 PM

Kahlil Whitney, another small forward, getting crystal balled to UK. If they get him, I doubt they'd be looking for 3 small forwards in one class

XUGRAD80

07-22-2018, 09:28 PM

Had a talk with one of the country magistrates for Pendleton Co. today. He said that Donte is one of the most humble and likable young men that he has ever seen come through the HS. He also said that Donte is the best and most complete HS player that he has ever seen in his 60+ years of following Kentucky HS basketball.

xu82

07-22-2018, 09:37 PM

GIMMFD

07-23-2018, 10:35 PM

Kahlil Whitney, another small forward, getting crystal balled to UK. If they get him, I doubt they'd be looking for 3 small forwards in one class

Something definitely to watch for, that could end up being huge for us if it means we can land Allen. Him and King would be two pretty pieces to start this class off right.

scoscox

07-24-2018, 06:01 PM

I'd also be pumped about taking david johnson out from under mack. winning battles against louisville would be wonderful

GIMMFD

07-24-2018, 08:46 PM

I'd also be pumped about taking david johnson out from under mack. winning battles against louisville would be wonderful

I thought he was basically a Louisville lock from where he's from the city, and goes to Trinity, didn't he name them his leader??

XU3232

07-25-2018, 08:28 AM

I thought he was basically a Louisville lock from where he's from the city, and goes to Trinity, didn't he name them his leader??

Everyone expected him to recommit back to Louisville by now but he hasn't... I'm sure he will still end up there but it's definitely not a done deal.

JTG

07-25-2018, 03:41 PM

Everyone expected him to recommit back to Louisville by now but he hasn't... I'm sure he will still end up there but it's definitely not a done deal.

It's probably a lock he'd be watching the tournament on tv if he goes to Louisville.

GoMuskies

07-30-2018, 02:36 PM

I think he'll end up at Kentucky.

XU 87

07-30-2018, 03:10 PM

I think he'll end up at Kentucky.

Does UK ever lose a recruit it wants from Kentucky that doesn't live in Louisville?

XUGRAD80

07-30-2018, 03:16 PM

I think he'll end up at Kentucky.

I think that it might not be quite the slam dunk I thought that might be. UK is hosting Kahlil Whitney Aug 3-4 for an official visit. Donte is visiting Aug 1 for an unofficial visit. Whitney is probably their 1st choice, and he definitely is a one and done player. I don’t see Donte being the same, and Donte hasn’t even gotten an offer from them yet. I have a feeling that we might know by the end of this week one way or another. I’m still crossing my fingers and hoping he chooses correctly!

mistabeecee41

07-30-2018, 03:18 PM

I think that it might not be quite the slam dunk I thought that might be. UK is hosting Kahlil Whitney Aug 3-4 for an official visit. Donte is visiting Aug 1 for an unofficial visit. Whitney is probably their 1st choice, and he definitely is a one and done player. I don’t see Donte being the same, and Donte hasn’t even gotten an offer from them yet. I have a feeling that we might know by the end of this week one way or another. I’m still crossing my fingers and hoping he chooses correctly!

Per Twitter, UK is going after both and is expected to also offer Dontaie.

EDIT: DJ Jeffries, 2019 SF has just decommitted from UK.

xufan02

07-30-2018, 05:32 PM

This one is trending to UK down a hill with a jet pack.

xu82

07-30-2018, 05:33 PM

I can’t imagine being a coach on the recruiting trail trying to balance all these teenage kids, their parents, coaches and hangers on. The egos, the crazy dynamics, the competition, the emotional swings, the grind and everything else they deal with. It takes a special kind of person, and I appreciate the hell out our staff!

GIMMFD

07-30-2018, 08:22 PM

Per Twitter, UK is going after both and is expected to also offer Dontaie.

EDIT: DJ Jeffries, 2019 SF has just decommitted from UK.

Yeah as soon as Dontaie is offered it's a sailed ship. This is bad news for us, I'm sure he'll pick up his offer in a couple days on his unofficial, and that will be the writing on the wall.

noteggs

07-30-2018, 09:30 PM

Per Twitter, UK is going after both and is expected to also offer Dontaie.

EDIT: DJ Jeffries, 2019 SF has just decommitted from UK.

Holy crap! If Jeffries commits to Memphis along with Wiseman (number 1 recruit in nation for 2019), they’ll be loaded and that would suck for UC! Ok, happy face for that!

IM4X

07-30-2018, 11:04 PM

Does UK ever lose a recruit it wants from Kentucky that doesn't live in Louisville?

Well then, thank you Kentucky for letting Q fall through the cracks! Your pass was our good fortune.

IM4X

07-30-2018, 11:11 PM

Yeah as soon as Dontaie is offered it's a sailed ship. This is bad news for us, I'm sure he'll pick up his offer in a couple days on his unofficial, and that will be the writing on the wall.

If other players with offers jump to commit before him at his position, maybe that becomes a reason for him to pass or for Kentucky to not offer.

joe titan

07-31-2018, 07:04 AM

If other players with offers jump to commit before him at his position, maybe that becomes a reason for him to pass or for Kentucky to not offer.

From young Mr. Allen's perspective, that should be only one issue; Cal's penchant is one & done players so every --repeat EVERY-- class Cal will recruit at least one near NBA ready player at Mr. Allen's position. He may see some minutes during his career but at best he will be only just another guy in blue sweat pants hoping to contribute to an NCAA FF team. Without "negative" recruiting,XU can show him better 4 year opportunity toward both contributing to FF caliber teams and NBA prospects; that's not to say he will be anointed and lacking internal competition, just that the team structure and chemistry will afford him better opportunity in both short and long term.

noteggs

07-31-2018, 05:50 PM

Looks like crystal ball just flipped to UK

IM4X

07-31-2018, 07:44 PM

From young Mr. Allen's perspective, that should be only one issue; Cal's penchant is one & done players so every --repeat EVERY-- class Cal will recruit at least one near NBA ready player at Mr. Allen's position. He may see some minutes during his career but at best he will be only just another guy in blue sweat pants hoping to contribute to an NCAA FF team. Without "negative" recruiting,XU can show him better 4 year opportunity toward both contributing to FF caliber teams and NBA prospects; that's not to say he will be anointed and lacking internal competition, just that the team structure and chemistry will afford him better opportunity in both short and long term.

Completely agree...

I'm thinking Steele and staff will make it a point to mention the one and done "Rinse and repeat" Kentucky process and how he could be left sitting on the bench, outside of the normal rotation.

XU 87

08-01-2018, 10:13 AM

If UK offers him, I can't imagine he goes anywhere else.

ArizonaXUGrad

08-01-2018, 12:36 PM

Why not, even the fringe guys who go there seem to get a shot at the NBA. Calipari has a ton of connections.

IM4X

08-01-2018, 06:33 PM

Why not, even the fringe guys who go there seem to get a shot at the NBA. Calipari has a ton of connections.

If it's all about getting to the NBA for him and not caring at all about an education, then I'm okay with him not coming to X. Cal may have great NBA connections, but will he be as dedicated to making sure his kids get a good education as Steele will be? I think not. If Allen is truly an NBA caliber player, scouts will see it whether he goes to X or Kentucky.

Lloyd Braun

08-01-2018, 08:27 PM

If it's all about getting to the NBA for him and not caring at all about an education, then I'm okay with him not coming to X. Cal may have great NBA connections, but will he be as dedicated to making sure his kids get a good education as Steele will be? I think not. If Allen is truly an NBA caliber player, scouts will see it whether he goes to X or Kentucky.

I hate to burst your bubble but most of not all major div 1 recruits are all about going to the NBA. It’s their dream because they are great at playing basketball. It doesn’t mean they don’t care about education at all if they choose UK (or most anywhere else) over X. If he said he was coming to X for a year or two then leaving you wouldn’t want him? I find that hard to believe.

Juice

08-01-2018, 10:31 PM

If it's all about getting to the NBA for him and not caring at all about an education, then I'm okay with him not coming to X. Cal may have great NBA connections, but will he be as dedicated to making sure his kids get a good education as Steele will be? I think not. If Allen is truly an NBA caliber player, scouts will see it whether he goes to X or Kentucky.

Maybe?
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/19370060/john-calipari-attends-marcus-camby-graduation-university-massachusetts

It's entirely possible for a coach to help his guys leave early for pro ball if they're willing and able but also help those who do stay get an education.

94GRAD

08-02-2018, 02:00 PM

Allen verbals to UK.

https://twitter.com/EvanDaniels/status/1025078547126337537

MITTENMUSKIE16

08-02-2018, 02:11 PM

Damnit. Biggest pain about a situation like this is our coaches being correct in their evaluation before anyone else, only to see our coaches' be proven right and it bite them.

scoscox

08-02-2018, 02:19 PM

Kinda feels like he's being taken just for cal to get fans off his back about getting kentucky guys. They're already recruiting over him with kahlil whitney in his own class and he'll doubtless be recruited over again next year. I am bitter. Spread the love, Cal.

XUGRAD80

08-02-2018, 02:44 PM

I am not surprised by this. He grew up a Kentucky fan, with only a dream that he would ever be good enough to play for them. Cal telling him that he is, is all that he needed to hear.

nuts4xu

08-02-2018, 05:55 PM

Cal may have great NBA connections, but will he be as dedicated to making sure his kids get a good education as Steele will be? I think not.

If this kid or any kid that commits to Coach Cal is determined to get their degree, Calipari will do everything in his power to assist In the process. It’s not like he is going to ignore a kids desire to get his education.

BandAid

08-02-2018, 06:13 PM

Best of luck to Dontaie - can't be upset with him one iota given the circumstances. Can't blame a kid going to his dream school that simply hadn't offered until a later date.

GIMMFD

08-02-2018, 11:45 PM

If this kid or any kid that commits to Coach Cal is determined to get their degree, Calipari will do everything in his power to assist In the process. It’s not like he is going to ignore a kids desire to get his education.

Yeah I agree, Cal may be scummy, but he does help these kids in whatever way they want, if he didn't he wouldn't be getting high level recruits, word of mistreatment travels around. But agree with the sentiments here, good luck to Dontaie, if it was his dream to play for UK, he reached his goal, and that's great for him. It does suck we get in early on these high talents and can't close, but Xavier is still an attractive destination, we're just not the UK, Duke, UNC, Kansas' of the world, which though sucks, is just a fact of life.

IM4X

08-03-2018, 12:35 AM

If this kid or any kid that commits to Coach Cal is determined to get their degree, Calipari will do everything in his power to assist In the process. It’s not like he is going to ignore a kids desire to get his education.

Of course Cal is not going to ignore a kids desire to get an education.That’snot what I’m saying. Though the place has positioned itself (to recruits) more like “the Cal factory to get kids to the NBA” than it has a university where pushing kids to get a good education is as much the mission as is a commitment to get several kids to the NBA each year.

IM4X

08-03-2018, 12:53 AM

Xavier is still an attractive destination, we're just not the UK, Duke, UNC, Kansas' of the world, which though sucks, is just a fact of life.

You’re right ... our school isn’t known for helping its players cheat on test to get them eligible like one of the universities above got nailed for doing and our school actually gives out scholarships for kids to get a education- not for a one year NBA audition like another school listed above.

It’s a slippery slope some of these schools have started down and I am proud our school has not gone down either of those roads.

IM4X

08-03-2018, 02:09 AM

I am not knocking Dontaie for choosing Kentucky. I just have never seen X as a “less than” school. I see my alma mater as an very good school with an excellent basketball program that just continues to keep getting better.

If a kid has all of the necessary skills to play in the NBA, he is going to get there whether he is at a school like X or Kentucky or Duke or Kansas or Gonzaga or Villanova. They are all very good schools that get plenty of exposure. X basketball has continued its climb of success throug every conference it joined and it continues to reach new heights. That is damn impressive.

GIMMFD

08-03-2018, 05:41 PM

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You’re right ... our school isn’t known for helping its players cheat on test to get them eligible like one of the universities above got nailed for doing and our school actually gives out scholarships for kids to get a education- not for a one year NBA audition like another school listed above.

It’s a slippery slope some of these schools have started down and I am proud our school has not gone down either of those roads.

The NBA audition factory has been more of a recent trend, as all the schools above had 4 year guys in the past, and I'm also not convinced that if a one and done wanted to come to Xavier we would say no. In terms of established prestige, we aren't any of the blue bloods, it doesn't mean I don't think our alma mater is great in every regard. I agree I do love that we do things the right way, and that we never seem to get implicated in any of these scandals. However, if we're being honest with ourselves, when kids grow up they have ambitions for playing for UK, Duke, etc. Does that mean we can't change it in the future? No, however, we need to establish ourselves at a higher level. A final four, a national championship, etc. There's nothing wrong with our program, we're trending upwards, and putting ourselves in a better position each season to make that next jump.