Trevon, JP and Kaiser on TV this weekend

[whopper]

https://twitter.com/XavierMBB/status/1014535094785269761
Here is a link to all the NBA Sumer games this weekend
for some reason can't attach the file. I should be able to see most..dont have NBA TV but have ESPN2 and can probably convince someone to let me watch espnU

[whopper]

game 1 in summer league..Tre 3 for 3 from 3 and a plus 17. A LOOONNNG way to go I know but..
http://www.nba.com/games/20180706/TORNOP#/video

[whopper]

I don't believe it..Tre 22 pos in 15 min..6-7 from NBA 3 and 5 Reb and plus 14..
Again a long way but I did not expect this in game 1

[mistabeecee41]

glad to see Tre play well, especially after Ed struggled

[sirthought]

Tre did great! +16

19 minutes; 24 pts; 70% shooting (7/10); 75% 3PT; 100% FT (4/4); 6 rebounds; 2 asst.; 1 blk

[sirthought]

JP on the floor for two minutes: 1 TO; 1 PF

[whopper]

had a basket and assist. He should have drawn an offensive foul on the foul as moved well. Not horrible. looked like he belonged. It must be tough as all your teammates are really your competitors. With his 2 way he should be able to work his way in

[sirthought]

Troy Caupain really playing well with the Magic against Semaj and the Nets.

[GIMMFD]

Troy Caupain really playing well with the Magic against Semaj and the Nets.

But Semaj started out the scoring to that game with a three!! Haha. Hopefully these guys can impress, very happy for Tre though, glad to see he had a monster day today, hopefully the Pelicans give him a good hard look.

[bjf123]

JP on the floor for two minutes: 1 TO; 1 PF

In the part of the game I was watching, JP hit a 3 from the corner and drew a charge.


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[GIMMFD]

In the part of the game I was watching, JP hit a 3 from the corner and drew a charge.


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Charlotte won 88-87; JP ended up with 5 points, 1 assist, 2 steals, 4 fouls in 14 minutes

[whopper]

The butterflies are out of his system. We don't expect miracles but he looked like he belonged. I thought he drew an offensive foul in first have as well..had 2 steals. So far so good but Tre must feel real good today given his last college game. Man it is so tough..you see Malik Monk and Devonte Graham on your summer league, Miles Bridges etc. Good luck to all

[MITTENMUSKIE16]

18 first half points for Tre. #Still

[whopper]

26 now..10-14 from floor 6-8 from 3 3 rebounds in 21 minutes. I am glad as there seemed to be some disconnect at season's end between Tre and Mack which will never be explained. A couple of poor performances but now he is trying to prove himself. Good luck and Kaiser tonight debut.

[kellernr]

Semaj with 3 reb, 1 ast and 3 TO heading into the 4th

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[whopper]

https://www.thebirdwrites.com/2018/7/7/17544532/nba-summer-league-pelicans-heat-final-score-recap-trevon-bluiett-cheick-diallo-lemon-shields
nice article from New Orleans paper..very complementary of Tre

[Caveat]

Awesome to see Tre balling.

Playing himself into a potential 2-way deal.

[GIMMFD]

Awesome to see Tre balling.

Playing himself into a potential 2-way deal.

Fingers crossed he can keep this up, but his performance the first two games have been nothing short of spectacular, Tre can score, we all knew that, I'm glad he's showing it against some pretty decent competition. Love that guy, he deserves it.

[sirthought]

Seeing lots of Pelicans fans commenting to sign him on for the full roster, not a two way.

Their GM apparently has let some good NBA talent slip through his fingers in the past. And they've drafted a lot of guys around his position. But the impact he's had on the coach and teammates is really strong. The point guard was interviewed saying he's looking for him now every time.

It's a great opportunity for Bluiett, as Alvin Gentry is setting up an offense similar to Golden State and they have inside/outside guys that can get shooters good shots.

At first I was sort of disappointed he was offered a spot by NOLA, but seeing these two games and he's fit into the their play so well...projecting that to their prime players seems like only more opportunity.

[whopper]

2294

Holding his own..many thought this would never happen. Good luck to all our guys and can't wait until November

[Caveat]

2294

Holding his own..many thought this would never happen. Good luck to all our guys and can't wait until November

TBF — most people thought Tre’s defense would be what kept him out of the NBA.

He hasn’t really been tested there, but it may be a moot point. If he can keep getting buckets, he may force his way into the league anyway.

[kellernr]

JP scored 11 today. Had a decent stat line.

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[whopper]

Actually the winning basket on an offensive rebound. Again, we are not looking at Collin Sexton but a decent 4 peg guy for a few year who can hold his own. In other words one of the best 500 players in the world. 5-6 fro floor, 5 rebounds, he definitely belongs and him and Tre (the leading scorer ) are making X proud.

[whopper]

if you want to see 7 macura points watch these videos
http://www.nba.com/games/20180708/CHAMIA#/video

Not bad at all..during the depths of the losing streak in 2017 I never thought I would see this..well done

[Drew]

1st game.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EW1EKFF_Mhs

[Drew]

2nd game.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc8FLVumbEo

[MarvAlbert]

Kaiser is the only Bull to not enter the game tonight. I guess this isn't what he was expecting when he left...

[sirthought]

Gates hasn't gotten on the floor in any of the summer games so far. They really must not be seeing enough in the practices to make them think they want to see him in a live game situation. At least he'll get a taste of what they are calling for.

[bigdiggins]

Gates hasn't gotten on the floor in any of the summer games so far. They really must not be seeing enough in the practices to make them think they want to see him in a live game situation. At least he'll get a taste of what they are calling for.

The bulls must not be using him correctly.

[kellernr]

I'd like to see him get some playing time. thought i saw he was a top candidate for a 2way deal with the bulls.

[webxu]

I realize its just the summer league, but has X ever had this many guys at once on NBA rosters? Semaj, Tre, JP, Kaiser, Ed? Am I missing anyone?

Just trying to think back in the 90's we had Hill, Strong, Williams, and Grant in the league and Micheal Hawkins briefly. Posey came later, so maybe that was the most, but not sure they all overlapped

regardless, still good Xposure.. see what I did there :)

[Xavier]

I wouldn’t consider summer league guys as “in the NBA”.

[whopper]

espy top 10, number 5 was JP finish off Devonte Graham bounce pass. Also his offensive rebound basket was the game winner. I am not expecting Collin Sexton or Mikeal Bridges play but was pleasantly surprised at this performance. Not bad at all. Had a block, an awful turnover(too high a dribble in traffic but we knew that) but all in all encouraging

[MITTENMUSKIE16]

Nice article about the play of Tre, and how the Pels' GM might not be inclined to make the same mistake a third time if Trevon keeps up his play. Article references some unique circumstances in the Pels cap/roster/past that could benefit what kind of contract he could be offered. Hopefully he just keeps playing well and it will work itself out.

https://www.thebirdwrites.com/2018/7/9/17547684/2018-nba-free-agency-trevon-bluiett-pelicans-summer-league-curry-cook-buddy-hield-valentine-murray

[More Cowbell]

Unfortunately for Bluiett, New Orleans plays Detroit today. Khyri Thomas is a tough matchup for him.

[kellernr]

Unfortunately for Bluiett, New Orleans plays Detroit today. Khyri Thomas is a tough matchup for him.

he had 24 in game 1 and 6 in game 2 against creighton. i think he will do just fine against him today

[xu95]

The good news for Tre is he hasn't signed a 2 way contract (if he has been offered one) so he can sign with any team that wants him, not just the Pelicans. He just needs to stay on fire.

xu95

[kellernr]

The good news for Tre is he hasn't signed a 2 way contract (if he has been offered one) so he can sign with any team that wants him, not just the Pelicans. He just needs to stay on fire.

xu95I hope he proves me wrong. I was skeptical of his athleticism and speed but he looks like he's in great shape and is moving faster up and down the floor

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[Olsingledigit]

I would love to see him sign here in his hometown with the Pacers.

[bobbiemcgee]

Sumner drained a 3 to end the 3rd Qtr. Sloppy game.

[sirthought]

Bluiett had a good game, but not the eye-popping numbers of the first two games. Still, I think he made enough plays on defense (he stopped at least two post attempts), and contributed positively on offense that teams will still be contemplating their options with him. The downside for him with just a couple more games left is that others on his team are really gunning to impress. The Pels don't have a lot of money to make moves, so they are likely looking for their best development option at the SF or PG spot.

[drudy23]

All he can do is give them a reason to keep him around...he's doing that.

[JTG]

His hometown Pacers have tons of cap space, and frankly Tre fits what they need, a spot up 3 pt shooter, much better than Sumner.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Sumner will be a PG for them. He won’t be a shooting guard for them.


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[webxu]

I wouldn't be so sure of that, I watched some of the game yesterday and Ed wasn't the PG, he was playing off the ball...

[whopper]

positionless basketball..Edmond played OK but seemed a little confused. It is hard to believe that he COULD have been on our team this year..may have made a difference against FSU and Villanova where we were lacking "athletes". It is almost like it was a dream that he played for us. I remember that Sunday night St Johns game where he tore up knee on a made basket(his last ever for X). Good guy and good luck

[GIMMFD]

All he can do is give them a reason to keep him around...he's doing that.

Yup give them a reason to keep you around, you don't see many guys play their way into a chance from Summer League, but Tre is doing that right now, hopefully he can continue to keep this up for the last few games and show he deserves to belong. He's looked pretty sharp so far.

[sirthought]

What's funny is the Pels have had two undrafted guys in past summer leagues — Seth Curry and Quinn Cook — who both lit it up in their games and the Pels didn't make offers enough to keep them. Those guys are both advancing their careers in the NBA. If they let Bluiett go and he then he sticks with someone else, I think their fans will have a fit.

[paulxu]

Gates had a nice showing in what was his first (I think) time on the court for the Bulls.
14 Pts in 15 minutes with 2 boards and 2 assists.
5 of 7, with 4 of 6 from 3.

[webxu]

Maybe Der Kaiser was just shooting too close for us.. step back a couple feet and lights out.. SMH

[xu82]

Maybe Der Kaiser was just shooting too close for us.. step back a couple feet and lights out.. SMH

Is that where we were using him wrong?

[drudy23]

KG was lights out in November. Lights out in March would likely have provided a F4 banner.

[whopper]

I loved our depth but both Kaiser and Sean stuggled a little to make room for Naj and Karem. We would not have done as well all year without Naj and Karem but I noticed a slight regression in both Kaiser and Sean near year end. That is why sports is so compelling and complex. It really is nobody's fault, I have been on teams where good players affected chemistry and there is nothing to do as you want good players.

[drudy23]

I don't know that Sean regressed. He really wasn't used. He could have been used more, especially in the FSU game.

[whopper]

Sean was my favorite and my X daughters used to berate me for saying "he will surprise us all at the end". Regressed is too strong a word. As a player you should be able to play through mistakes but Mack saw that Karem would spread the floor and make his own shot a little more and got comfortable. Again this is a moot point if we made the foul shots but the slightest little flaw looms large in the tournament. It is really nobody's fault and last year as we had little depth(Edmond out) Sean and Q got chances they would not have had to play through errors. Thank God the FSU game aged off my DVR by accident and can never be retreived. It actually stopped with us ahead 70-68 with the ball..sigh. Believe me having started playing/watching in 1970 and coached, parented a player and been a superfan I have seen this 100 times. Damn and I would have picked up tab at Irish Club in Conn(cheap beer) if we made FF.

[smileyy]

Has anyone who's watched been able to tell if Kaiser has changed his shot? After the season, Banners on the Parkway described him:


He’s a belly shooter with a long release, which is why he shot much better in transition than in the half court. Faced with a rapidly closing defender, Kaiser’s shot mechanics don’t allow him to get a good shot away cleanly.

I wonder if he's been able to quicken his release to be more like Tre's. If he can, that's a big step forward for him.

[XMuskieFTW]

Sean vastly improved last year. His offense wasn't really going to improve much more than where it was at his Junior year.. He's never going to be the guy shooting 15 footers, but his back to the basket game is high level.

His main improvement was his defense and his floor spacing/awareness. He doubled his blocks from the previous season and played some really solid defense in the post. I wish he would have played more, but it was hard to get him out there with Kerem scoring like he was.

[Lloyd Braun]

@srevolution: “Per @JoelMeyersNBA on @SiriusXMNBA, a two-way contract is in the works for #Pelicans SG @TrevonBluiett.”

[sirthought]

I'm happy he's getting a shot, but I actually thought he might avoid the G League and sign on the main roster after his summer league performance. The Pels have no budget, but they could sign a minimum rookie contract, which would pay much better than a two-way.

If The Pels offer two-way, and another team swoops in with a better offer, Bluiett will have an interesting decision. I think he fits in well with that roster and the organization did give him a shot. They have some dynamic play makers.

I do think he could fit in with the Pacers or the Heat, both teams needing to bolster the wing.

[Lloyd Braun]

Pacers are out of room pretty much. Just signed Turkey Evans and Doug McDermott. They have one more roster spot but that’s it. Not to mention Sumner on a 2-way...

I think a 2-way is Tre’s best shot.

[xu95]

If he can play close to the 45 games allowed for a player on a 2 way, he will make half of what a rookie on the minimum makes (actually a little more than half) and he will get some good experience.

I really think the 2 ways are a much better deal for players with NBA aspirations than going to Europe is. Even if they can make more money in Europe.

xu95

[whopper]

There are so many options now and so many people hungry to play. Honestly if any "OK" team in the NBA played as hungry as these summer league players(even like a Wizards or Trailblazers) they would be a threat to beat Golden State. I have never seen as many blocked dunks or run down blocks from behind and intense offensive rebounding..a bunch of junkyard dogs.

[Lloyd Braun]

There are so many options now and so many people hungry to play. Honestly if any "OK" team in the NBA played as hungry as these summer league players(even like a Wizards or Trailblazers) they would be a threat to beat Golden State. I have never seen as many blocked dunks or run down blocks from behind and intense offensive rebounding..a bunch of junkyard dogs.

In a regular season game? Ok. In a playoff series? GS is in another universe.

[GIMMFD]

In a regular season game? Ok. In a playoff series? GS is in another universe.

Agreed, nobody is touching Golden State, they are stacked with all stars and talent all over the court, they phone it in during the regular season and become a whole different animal in the play-offs. It's a major shock if these guys lose.

[smileyy]

It's a major shock if these guys lose.

I'd say I'd have liked to have seen what would happen with a healthy Chris Paul, but that's kind of an oxymoron.

Edit: and now we're really getting off-topic

[whopper]

what I was saying is that if you get a Wizards or certainly Pacers playing each minute as if they were going to be cut, then I think it could be a game. No human being could every keep up the intensity of a bubble player and if John Wall, Beal and others played 48 min as if their lives depended on it they could counteract the unbelievable GS talent. Not going to happen though but I am shocked(probably should not be) at the hunger of these players I have not heard of trying to get a 2 way

[Lloyd Braun]

Tre gets two way contract with Pelicans.

[GIMMFD]

Tre gets two way contract with Pelicans.

Yup, just coming here to post that, so here's a link to a tweet to confirm: https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1017539988135673856

Good for him, hopefully he can prove a lot of people wrong (myself included) and carve out a decent career in the NBA, wish that man nothing but the best after the four special years he gave us.

[JTG]

Good for Tre and JP. Tre can shoot, so that stretches the floor, which is a highly prized talent in today's NBA. JP is a hustle machine, and a pain in the ass to opponents, and he has some 3pt ability, ( think Lance Stephenson). I think they both will log more minutes than Sumner this year. As for Gates, he has I only give a shit once in awhile disease. Unless the Bulls are idiots he'll never see the floor.

[Drew]

As for Gates, he has I only give a shit once in awhile disease. Unless the Bulls are idiots he'll never see the floor.

Have you ever competed in D1 Athletics? Do you honestly believe its possible to make it to that level with "only giving a shit once in a while." You are making a serious character insult based on someone's temperament during arguably one of the most stressful moments of their life. And at a former Xavier player at that. Unreal.

[Xville]

Have you ever competed in D1 Athletics? Do you honestly believe its possible to make it to that level with "only giving a shit once in a while." You are making a serious character insult based on someone's temperament during arguably one of the most stressful moments of their life. And at a former Xavier player at that. Unreal.

There is plenty of evidence in games we could compile that would provide a pretty good case that Kaiser has that "disease." With that said, we don't know what goes on at practice etc. However, as many coaches say, you play the way you practice.

I do think it is very possible for a D1 player to get by just on talent and not give great effort....everyone is talented at the D1 level, I think what separates people at that level is the mental aspect of the game and the effort employed. Those are the types of things that separates a good player from a great player.

Lastly, if this is "one of the most stressful situations" of your life, that's a pretty damn good life, and if this is the way Kaiser acts during those times, that is pretty telling.

[paulxu]

I wonder if people are just down on Kaiser because he left early. He was here 3 years (not one) and from the coaches encouraging tweets, one might suspect that he did pretty good and they are hoping he succeeds.
Guess I'll be in their camp and hope he succeeds as well.

[Xville]

I wonder if people are just down on Kaiser because he left early. He was here 3 years (not one) and from the coaches encouraging tweets, one might suspect that he did pretty good and they are hoping he succeeds.
Guess I'll be in their camp and hope he succeeds as well.

people are down on Kaiser because he displayed that "disease" throughout his career and then blamed how he was used. Rightfully so, it pisses people off when people don't give proper effort.

[Roadlife]

people are down on Kaiser because he displayed that "disease" throughout his career and then blamed how he was used. Rightfully so, it pisses people off when people don't give proper effort.
I've always thought that credit is earned, not given.

[whopper]

Off topic but here is the Japanese guy from George Washington with a chance to make Nets, with Marshall beating Wichita St and some Midd Tennessee guys doing well our early season schedule looks better from last years
https://www.netsdaily.com/2018/7/13/17568062/yuta-watanabes-journey-from-japan-to-nba

[Cheesehead]

Off topic but here is the Japanese guy from George Washington with a chance to make Nets, with Marshall beating Wichita St and some Midd Tennessee guys doing well our early season schedule looks better from last years
https://www.netsdaily.com/2018/7/13/17568062/yuta-watanabes-journey-from-japan-to-nba

I recall this guy. Caught parts of some GW games past few years. He was decent at GW and a tough kid. Good for him.

[GIMMFD]

I wonder if people are just down on Kaiser because he left early. He was here 3 years (not one) and from the coaches encouraging tweets, one might suspect that he did pretty good and they are hoping he succeeds.
Guess I'll be in their camp and hope he succeeds as well.

To be fair, you're going to expect the coaches/social media to be encouraging for Kaiser because if they didn't it would look bad for the program no matter what they think of him. I do think he was absent a lot, and always left more to be desired, but I liked Kaiser just fine, I want him to succeed as well. But there were obvious moments of just "ugh come on man, get it together" and nobody can deny that.

[AviatorX]

people are down on Kaiser because he displayed that "disease" throughout his career and then blamed how he was used. Rightfully so, it pisses people off when people don't give proper effort.

Ignoring the rightful indignation some apparently feel for the perceived lack of effort by someone on a team they are not even a part of, did I miss where Kaiser complained about how he was used?

[sirthought]

Have you ever competed in D1 Athletics? Do you honestly believe its possible to make it to that level with "only giving a shit once in a while." You are making a serious character insult based on someone's temperament during arguably one of the most stressful moments of their life. And at a former Xavier player at that. Unreal.


LOL. SHOCK! /s

I think it happens frequently enough that people become D1 athletes on hitting the genetic lottery without real effort or skill set developed to compete up to their potential. Guys even make it to the pros and they don't really care about playing the sport at that point but it's hard to turn down the money. Low effort happens all the time.

It is a character insult to Gates, but one that's understandable in many regards. Maybe it wasn't a great fit for him. Maybe he was injured. We kept waiting for him to turn a corner. He made some good plays and contributed to several wins. But the eye test is still telling. He left before hitting close to his ceiling and now he might not get a chance to reach it.

Yeah, if this is the most stressful moments in these athletically gifted young men's lives, then they have a bright life ahead of them.

[drudy23]

People are down on Kaiser because he didn't make a shot in March, the most important month. That's pretty much it.

He was a key piece to a Final Four run. He was the stretch 4 that made it all work and made us very hard to guard. If he hits 3's in March like he did in November, we're in the F4.

[GIMMFD]

LOL. SHOCK! /s

I think it happens frequently enough that people become D1 athletes on hitting the genetic lottery without real effort or skill set developed to compete up to their potential. Guys even make it to the pros and they don't really care about playing the sport at that point but it's hard to turn down the money. Low effort happens all the time.

Perfect example of this, OJ Mayo. Dude had all the skills in the world, but had some demons upstairs, I saw him in HS, the guy was unstoppable and was barely breaking a sweat. Now he gets banned from the NBA, if he cared and worked hard, I have no doubt that guy would have been an all star year in and year out averaging 20+.

[JTG]

Pretty much everyone works with that one person who coasts. Does the bare minimum, uses all their sick days, comes in late, leaves early. Just collecting a paycheck. If Gates had JP's hustle he would have been an All American. Conversely, if JP had Gates God given talent he would have averaged 30 ppg.

[sirthought]

If Gates had JP's hustle he would have been an All American. Conversely, if JP had Gates God given talent he would have averaged 30 ppg.

Might be a bit simplistic, but it's hard to disagree with this.

[whopper]

https://www.atthehive.com/2018/7/14/17572304/hornets-vs-raptors-sl-openthread

They like JP in Charlotte it seems..effective it seems from the numbers and + - as well as comments

[AviatorX]

Might be a bit simplistic, but it's hard to disagree with this.

Actually extremely easy to disagree with. Kaiser's skill set was never as diverse/well-developed as people wanted it to be or made it out to be. He was a catch and shoot guy who couldn't handle the ball well. JP is FAR more skilled.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Actually extremely easy to disagree with. Kaiser's skill set was never as diverse/well-developed as people wanted it to be or made it out to be. He was a catch and shoot guy who couldn't handle the ball well. JP is FAR more skilled.

I think some on here forget how athletic JP is.


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[X-man]

https://www.atthehive.com/2018/7/14/17572304/hornets-vs-raptors-sl-openthread

They like JP in Charlotte it seems..effective it seems from the numbers and + - as well as comments

How could you not.....unless you are a fan of an opposing team? I have long said that JP is the most likely NBA prospect of the four getting their shot this summer. I will be shocked if JP doesn't make a roster somewhere in the NBA, and clearly the Charlotte fans like what they have seen of him so far.

[paulxu]

You guys really seem to be down on Kaiser for some reason (perception of his effort?).
I hope he does well, makes a team, and proves everyone wrong. Hard to make it in the NBA, but he said he'd come back for his degree, so I hope he makes millions somewhere and does just that.

[whopper]

When you get more good players on the team you lose your ability to play through lulls. I thought that happened to both Kaiser and Sean at season's end, not fatal until single elimination games. Naj and Karem were slightly favored by Mack and I could see why. It has happened to me my whole life in sports and work.. You "think" you have everyone's confidence and all of the sudden there is a teammate who catches management's eye. You can get paranoid and press a little. I love all the players, have no ill will at all towards any, but could see the tough balancing act at season's end. It did not help that Tre went cold as well which increased Mack's anxiety. I had a great 4 years following this team, follow them in summer, and look forward to next years team which I hope will surprise.

[Drew]

JP is incredibly athletic, but he needs to get his head straight. Makes way too many dumb mistakes to be an NBA player.

[GIMMFD]

JP is incredibly athletic, but he needs to get his head straight. Makes way too many dumb mistakes to be an NBA player.

If he can just be fine with the ball, play tough defense, and give a few minutes of energy off the bench he can carve a role, luckily he'll have time to develop. I'm a pseudo-Hornets fan so I wouldn't mind JP being in Charlotte on that roster. I think he has the attitude to cut it, but you're right a lot of fouls and turnovers, but luckily the Hornets don't need him to play 20-30 minutes.

[mistabeecee41]

If he can just be fine with the ball, play tough defense, and give a few minutes of energy off the bench he can carve a role, luckily he'll have time to develop. I'm a pseudo-Hornets fan so I wouldn't mind JP being in Charlotte on that roster. I think he has the attitude to cut it, but you're right a lot of fouls and turnovers, but luckily the Hornets don't need him to play 20-30 minutes.

Yup. The thing to remember is JP had the ball in his hands in a position where he needed to create a LOT during his time at X. This resulted in tons of “we love JP” moments with a handful of “wtf JP” moments.

He won’t be asked to do that too often at the NBA level. He will be an energy guy who makes winning plays and hits open shots.

[whopper]

from the athhehive blog in Charlotte

"J.P. Macura doesn’t look like an NBA player yet, but I like a lot of his game. He’s always in the right spot, he crashes the boards, and he makes quick decisions with the ball. He doesn’t give up on plays, either, and on more than one occasion he made up for a turnover by getting back on defense and forcing a bad shot or turnover on the other end. Plus, he takes charges. Coaches love that. Again, he’s not NBA material now, but he could be after a year in Greensboro."
Not a bad summary and he has a chance to be one of the best 500 players in the world