CM

[JTG]

Just curious, haven't seen anything about signees or recruits for UL. Are they gonna suck ( hope so ). And is everyone avoiding them ? Mack has replaced Matta in my book, as the biggest ass to coach at X, due to his bailing on the team before the Season was even over. That was the ultimate prick move.

[GoMuskies]

Got a commitment today from a guy who started at Louisville, moved on to Georgetown, then to SMU, now back to Louisville. Not a great player.

[MHettel]

Got a commitment today from a guy who started at Louisville, moved on to Georgetown, then to SMU, now back to Louisville. Not a great player.

What?

[sirthought]

They currently have 10 scholarship players.

Recently signed on grad-transfers:
Samford PG Christen Cunningham
Richmond CG Khwan Fore
SMU 6'8" PF Akoy Agau

Signed for 2019:
4 star SG Josh Nickelberry

[Xavier]

Just curious, haven't seen anything about signees or recruits for UL. Are they gonna suck ( hope so ). And is everyone avoiding them ? Mack has replaced Matta in my book, as the biggest ass to coach at X, due to his bailing on the team before the Season was even over. That was the ultimate prick move.

I don’t think CM is as big of a loss as a lot of people do but it’s ridiculous to think he quit on the team. As I said before, no coach would ever quit on a 1 seed. They got beat for a lot of reasons. Mack quiting on them isn’t one.

[GoMuskies]

What?

Exactly. Welcome to the odyssey of Akoy Agau.

[JTG]

I don’t think CM is as big of a loss as a lot of people do but it’s ridiculous to think he quit on the team. As I said before, no coach would ever quit on a 1 seed. They got beat for a lot of reasons. Mack quiting on them isn’t one.

What would you call interviewing with another school and basically agreeing to a deal a week before the tournament starts ? I'm glad he's gone and I think Steele will be a better coach.

[noteggs]

Got a commitment today from a guy who started at Louisville, moved on to Georgetown, then to SMU, now back to Louisville. Not a great player.

Talking about taking advantage of the grad transfer rule! Never heard of a player playing for two different schools while getting his Masters. If he was only 3 classes short to receiving his degree, how can another team pick him up? Boggles the mind what you can get away with...

[joe titan]

Talking about taking advantage of the grad transfer rule! Never heard of a player playing for two different schools while getting his Masters. If he was only 3 classes short to receiving his degree, how can another team pick him up? Boggles the mind what you can get away with...

Is that worse than the grad transfer kid from Stanford heading to UK ? Just what grad level program does UK offer that Stanford lacks ? SMH

[GoMuskies]

Is that worse than the grad transfer kid from Stanford heading to UK ? Just what grad level program does UK offer that Stanford lacks ? SMH

Equine management. I'm sure Reid Travis has always dreamed of getting into the horse breeding business.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Well isn't Castlin coming to X and getting his MBA? Columbia doesn't have an MBA program?

[xu82]

Well isn't Castlin coming to X and getting his MBA? Columbia doesn't have an MBA program?

Columbia is no Harvard of the Midwest!

[muskienick]

Is that worse than the grad transfer kid from Stanford heading to UK ? Just what grad level program does UK offer that Stanford lacks ? SMH

Moonshining 501?

[noteggs]

Is that worse than the grad transfer kid from Stanford heading to UK ? Just what grad level program does UK offer that Stanford lacks ? SMH

Actually I think yes? Agau was 3 classes short from receiving his Masters from SMU. Does he now have switch Masters programs to something SMU didn’t offer and Louisville does? Stanford player went from undergrad to UK Masters program. (Yes BS as noted)

I’m just trying to understand the grad transfer rules and how someone can play for two different schools while being a grad student...

[xuwin]

I don’t think CM is as big of a loss as a lot of people do but it’s ridiculous to think he quit on the team. As I said before, no coach would ever quit on a 1 seed. They got beat for a lot of reasons. Mack quiting on them isn’t one.

CM won the Big East regular season championship this year against a team that had 3 NBA 1st round draft choices and an early 2nd round choice. Xavier did it with none. I think you underestimate the magnitude of the loss.

[JEHARDI]

CM won the Big East regular season championship this year against a team that had 3 NBA 1st round draft choices and an early 2nd round choice. Xavier did it with none. I think you underestimate the magnitude of the loss.

Winning the BE was a great accomplishment but to be fair X was no match for Villanova, who clearly was playing for more than a BE title. Mack lost to a middling ACC team in the tourney with a roster that was significantly better than what he will have at Louisville the next 2-3 years. Will be interesting to see how he fares in the ACC. He was good for X and X was good to him, I have no issue with him doing what he thinks is best for him and his family. Onward and upward!

[whopper]

Agreed, you will go nuts revisiting the FSU game (and the Providence game for that matter). I just watched the Villanova game at Cintas on youtube(just to revisit Villanova to see how good they really were) and watched Pascall dog Tre, Bridges make 3 after 3 rising 25 in on each shot, Brunson with ball on a string, Spellman hitting 3s (for some reason we were down 3 with 10 min to go) but in hindsight just too many weapons(did not even mention Divencenzo as he hit a bunch at end but I turned it off with us down 3. I am looking forward to 4 months and 2 weeks for our first game of 18-19. I am of course a masochist to watch but I just wanted to see after the draft and finals what it looked like

[boozehound]

CM won the Big East regular season championship this year against a team that had 3 NBA 1st round draft choices and an early 2nd round choice. Xavier did it with none. I think you underestimate the magnitude of the loss.

We will see. I don't know if we really won the Big East 'Against" Villanova, although I do see what you are getting at. Villanova thoroughly curb-stomped us both times we played them. We got lucky that they slipped up a few times (with some injuries, I think) and we pulled out a ton of close games without really convincingly beating anyone of note in the latter half of the season. We still won the league, and should be proud of that, but I never really felt like last year's time was living up to the hype / potential.

[JTG]

Winning the BE was a great accomplishment but to be fair X was no match for Villanova, who clearly was playing for more than a BE title. Mack lost to a middling ACC team in the tourney with a roster that was significantly better than what he will have at Louisville the next 2-3 years. Will be interesting to see how he fares in the ACC. He was good for X and X was good to him, I have no issue with him doing what he thinks is best for him and his family. Onward and upward!

My original point was not that he left, it was the way he did it. That job was going to be his After the Season. There was no need for the behind the back stuff with UL during the BE tournament. Sure, do what's best for your family, but be honorable about it.

[XUGRAD80]

I’ve read a lot of rumors about the “behind the back stuff” on this board, but so far I’ve yet to see any credible evidence that anything actually did happen. No news reports, no quotes from people actually involved, no photos that show anything, no smoking gun. So forgive me if I remain skeptical and continue to doubt these Internet “reports”.

At this point, does it really matter? He’s gone, we aren’t and nothing is going change what has already happened. Let it go. Life’s way to short to let what oth rd do bother you so much.

[whopper]

Having re watched the game, if we hit some seemingly meaningless foul shots in the first 10 minutes of the second half when we were up by 10 we would have been up 12-14 and up 4 with a minute to go and it would not have mattered. I lost a full night of sleep that Sunday and had promised that is X made final 4 the drinks would be on me in conn at the local Irish club ($2 beers. lots of college and big east fans) and I would have LOVED to be paying that $150 or so tall

[X-band '01]

Having re watched the game

Don't punish yourself like that.

[whopper]

I can't help it..maybe need to go to basketball anonymous. Then again I watch the illegal pick that the Whopper(Billy Paultz) set (phantom pick) that cost the Spurs the NBA final in 1978 their second year in league which would have rocked the hoop world(they were up on the Bullets 3-1 but could not close)

[stammina0721]

I said it once I will say it again. Wishing no ill will on Mack but he will not survive his contract. He will not win a championship in 3 years and Louisville will move on.

[stammina0721]

But i digress. I care more about Steele and this team than Mack.

[Xavier]

I said it once I will say it again. Wishing no ill will on Mack but he will not survive his contract. He will not win a championship in 3 years and Louisville will move on.

3 years?? No school in the country has a championship in 3 years or move on expectation.

[GoMuskies]

The average tenure of Louisville coaches (who didn't fall ill and die) since WW II is about 25 years. I think Mack will manage to hang in there for at least 4.

[mistabeecee41]

For all of the Mack defenders.

https://twitter.com/rumbleSBN/status/1019647489345978369

[GoMuskies]

For all of the Mack defenders.

https://twitter.com/rumbleSBN/status/1019647489345978369

Damn you Cue Ball!!!!

[XU 87]

I said it once I will say it again. Wishing no ill will on Mack but he will not survive his contract. He will not win a championship in 3 years and Louisville will move on.

Are you the poster that said he wouldn't post here anymore if Mack was still at X in 2016, or was that someone else?

[XUFan09]

For all of the Mack defenders.

https://twitter.com/rumbleSBN/status/1019647489345978369Explain what I'm supposed to be upset about. What a high school kid says about a program that was last coached by someone other than Mack when the kid was 8 or 9?

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[Nigel Tufnel]

Explain what I'm supposed to be upset about. What a high school kid says about a program that was last coached by someone other than Mack when the kid was 8 or 9?

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I read it the same way. An uneducated (in college basketball history) high schooler made the comment.

[XUFan09]

I read it the same way. An uneducated (in college basketball history) high schooler made the comment.Yep. And it's not like it's unusual. High school kids on average are so frequently clueless about college basketball. It wouldn't surprise me if this kid doesn't know that Sean Miller was the coach before Mack, even though the kid probably knows of Miller even if he hasn't actually talked to him.

Edit: I looked up the kid because he has an unusual name. Turns out he is actually from Ireland and only immigrated four years ago. It's safe to say he's clueless about college basketball history lol.

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[GoMuskies]

I think the implication was that Mack told him he took a mediocre basketball program to top 10 status. Definitely not clear, but I prefer to hate first and ask questions later.

[XUFan09]

I think the implication was that Mack told him he took a mediocre basketball program to top 10 status. Definitely not clear, but I prefer to hate first and ask questions later.Lol

But in all seriousness, he probably told the kid that he brought Xavier up to its current position, which he did, and other people probably told the kid some hyperbolic nonsense.

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[Nigel Tufnel]

I think the implication was that Mack told him he took a mediocre basketball program to top 10 status. Definitely not clear, but I prefer to hate first and ask questions later.

That’s quite the implication leap based on that quote. It really doesn’t make any sense for Mack to refer to Xavier as mediocre. Wouldn’t a better selling point be that he has already thrived at a high major? Mack isn’t selling recruits that he succeeded at a mediocre X program.

[noteggs]

Lol

But in all seriousness, he probably told the kid that he brought Xavier up to its current position, which he did, and other people probably told the kid some hyperbolic nonsense.

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Completely agree with first part of your comment. The conversation could’ve been completed with “however, think about what I could do with this storied program with players like you!” Of course, we as adults hear/think very differently.

Let’s face the facts, CM is aggressively competing for new recruits against X. His allegiance for X have flown out the window when it comes to recruiting. It would not surprise me a bit if some things said are not strong endorsements and might be construed negatively against our program...

[XUFan09]

Completely agree with first part of your comment. The conversation could’ve been completed with “however, think about what I could do with this storied program with players like you!” Of course, we as adults hear/think very differently.

Let’s face the facts, CM is aggressively competing for new recruits against X. His allegiance for X have flown out the window when it comes to recruiting. It would not surprise me a bit if some things said are not strong endorsements and might be construed negatively against our program...Because he was at X so long, his method is probably going to be complimentary to X but in such a way that he can cast Louisville as being better.

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[GIMMFD]

Because he was at X so long, his method is probably going to be complimentary to X but in such a way that he can cast Louisville as being better.

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I'm going to agree with this take, I think it's more so "I succeeded at a good school before at Xavier, so I'm not new to pressure or competing in a major conference, however, this is a more storied program, with national championships, .." blah blah blah and so forth. I'm sure there's some negative recruiting going on, all coaches/programs do it, "why would you go here, when x happened here, or we have x while that program doesn't", but I don't think Mack would blatantly disrespect Xavier, having it be his alma mater, and where he began to grew as a coach. I don't like him either much right now, but I think this is a stretch.

[American X]

He is a douche.

[webxu]

he probably neglected to say that he took a top 10 team and made them mediocre, then became top 10 again..

[sirthought]

he probably neglected to say that he took a top 10 team and made them mediocre, then became top 10 again..

exactly

he failed to say that the reason they didn't make the tournament those years likely had more to do with his poor in-game coaching decisions, which lead to losses in about 3 games that made the difference.