Tre

[KFX]

Bluiett working out for the Jazz tomorrow. On court workout, measurements etc...

[bleedXblue]

i hope they don't measure his vertical

[Drew]

i hope they don't measure his vertical

Classy.

[bleedXblue]

Classy.

lighten up

[joe titan]

i hope they don't measure his vertical

His vertical is not so bad; but lateral quickness they might use a sun dial to time him.

[muskiefan82]

I hope he has the opportunity to show that he can jump off of one foot.

[whopper]

Wish him and all the best of luck. In some ways it is like when I find out a good high school player does not play at college, this pyramid is even steeper. We had a special 4 years here and the difficulty of making the pros by recent X players parallels the difficulty of making final 4. To break past the similar skilled but lesser ranked Wisconsin and FSU you could use the one game breaker who can make his own shot. Actually Cartwright on PC beat us with some one on one plays and had the game in his hand with the last shot against Villanova(but he was the reason they were in that position). I wonder how he will do

[GIMMFD]

His vertical is not so bad; but lateral quickness they might use a sun dial to time him.

Really wish he was athletic enough to cut it in the Big East :/

[X Factor]

i hope they don't measure his vertical

I admit I chuckled when I read this...

I love Tre, but he does have physical limitations that will probably ultimately keep him from playing in the NBA.

[xukeith]

I admit I chuckled when I read this...

I love Tre, but he does have physical limitations that will probably ultimately keep him from playing in the NBA.

Not as slow as Redford but an overall better scorer.
His height and dribble/fade away was great at the foul line.

Hope he is similar to Sato and kills the European market. Good luck Tre, Karem, and JP! Oh and Sean too if he tries to play overseas.

[X-Expert]

Tre was a great college player. He absolutely cut it in the Big East. He was clearly exposed in some games but to act as if a 2000 point scorer and among the final 16 for player of the year in all of college basketball is not that good is mind boggling to me. Like others have said, the NBA is a different animal. There have been similar players like Tre who made it for a little (i.e. Jimmer Fredette,guard on Duke can't remember his name) based solely on his shooting. I'm not saying he will make it as i have always felt he had some challenges but perhaps he can find the right fit. NBA is about speed, quickness, and outside shooting. Its also about finding the right system. Similar to the hiesman winners that do great in college because of the system but fail in the NFL. Good luck to Tre, He was pretty much the only reason X made the tourney and went to the Elite 8 last year.

[scoscox]

Trevon needs to take a cue from Kyle Korver about how he can make it in the league. He can play that kind of a role if he can improve his shooting a little bit

[Lloyd Braun]

Trevon needs to take a cue from Kyle Korver about how he can make it in the league. He can play that kind of a role if he can improve his shooting a little bit

Korver is probably one of the 5 best shooters of all time... not sure that is blueprint for Tre to make it.

[JTG]

Never say never...every NBA roster has a marginal player who someone thinks is worth a roster spot. Won't be surprised to see him in an NBA uniform at some point. Maybe not for long, but maybe.

[whopper]

It is incredible how different the college and NBA games are. As a 50 year watcher of both (Alcindor and 69 Knicks are earliest memories at age 13) the college game has so much more vibrancy. Unbelievable talent in NBA, breathtaking athletes but getting to be like watching Roadrunner v Coyote..both punching a clock to a pre ordained script. Loved the last 4 years and looking forward to next year

[XUGRAD80]

It is incredible how different the college and NBA games are. As a 50 year watcher of both (Alcindor and 69 Knicks are earliest memories at age 13) the college game has so much more vibrancy. Unbelievable talent in NBA, breathtaking athletes but getting to be like watching Roadrunner v Coyote..both punching a clock to a pre ordained script. Loved the last 4 years and looking forward to next year

Alcinder never played for the Knicks. He was a Milwaukee Buck before playing for LA. He teamed there with the Big O to win a championship. Willis Reed was the Knick center. :).

But I get what you’re saying. After the Royals left Cincinnati in 1974, I mostly lost interest in the NBA. Bird and Magic made it interesting at times, but I’ve paid much more attention to college than the NBA, especially when comparing the regular season games.

I hope that Tre gets a realistic shot at the NBA, but I don’t feel good about his chances of being more than a fill-in or role player. His game will transfer over to European leagues much more readily. Playing in the top leagues in Spain, France, etc. is still a heck of a good accomplishment.

[scoscox]

Korver is probably one of the 5 best shooters of all time... not sure that is blueprint for Tre to make it.

I don't see any other role he could possibly play. He is too limited athletically and off the dribble to do anything other than be run and shoot off a thousand screens. That's basically what we did with him this year.

[Lloyd Braun]

I don't see any other role he could possibly play. He is too limited athletically and off the dribble to do anything other than be run and shoot off a thousand screens. That's basically what we did with him this year.

That is true, I was more or less questioning the chance of achieving “one of greatest shooters ever” status. Hes a real good shooter but not elite IMO. Hopefully he still makes a ton of cash playing ball.

[Caf]

I don't see any other role he could possibly play. He is too limited athletically and off the dribble to do anything other than be run and shoot off a thousand screens. That's basically what we did with him this year.

Generously, I think Tre's NBA ceiling is Doug McDermott. Very different college games, but Tre would struggle to play in a similar style in the NBA. He could be a guy who you'd have to respect for a quick shot off a pick and roll either over or under.

[whopper]

Alcindor in college, knicks in the pros. Then Knicks beat Alcindor first year in pros, and on and on till today I am 63 retired and nursing a torn calf from playing over 50 basketball. That is how much I love basketball(and hardly hit a fair ball in baseball). I actually met the big O at Prime after my daughter's graduation from X last year I said "sir I am honored to be in your presence" on Father's Day.
Tre will have to "catch fire" in a situation where he is called up to replace somebody and will do fine in Europe. We kind of forget that if Tre (or JP, Karem, Sean) go to Europe they will be replacing someone who many not be willing to give up their spot easily. It must be very competitive to be a marginal pro.

[kellernr]

JP is probably the most likely to get a shot in the NBA. He can shoot, handle the ball if needed, play defense and he hustles.


Tre can shoot 3s and thats about it. He was a liablility off the dribble and telegraphed majority of his passes.

[XUdenver]

The Kings are involved too, apparently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWI3KzfhHvM

[scoscox]

JP is probably the most likely to get a shot in the NBA. He can shoot, handle the ball if needed, play defense and he hustles.


Tre can shoot 3s and thats about it. He was a liablility off the dribble and telegraphed majority of his passes.

JP was a career 35% from 3. He's never really been a good shooter and saying he plays defense is absurd. JP was an absolutely horrific defender.

[kellernr]

JP was a career 35% from 3. He's never really been a good shooter and saying he plays defense is absurd. JP was an absolutely horrific defender.He was good in the zone. Man to man he was slow. Tre was non existent on the defensive end.

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[scoscox]

That is true, I was more or less questioning the chance of achieving “one of greatest shooters ever” status. Hes a real good shooter but not elite IMO. Hopefully he still makes a ton of cash playing ball.

I just meant Korver was the ideal to strive towards. Trevon shot 42% from 3 and 85% from the line this year. If he can improve those numbers marginally he can play that role for someone.

[X Factor]

JP was a career 35% from 3. He's never really been a good shooter and saying he plays defense is absurd. JP was an absolutely horrific defender.

While I don't think either of them will play in the NBA, I do believer JP has a better chance at finding his way onto a roster than Trevon.

JP is a lot more versatile on the offensive end, more athletic, and as tough as they come.

[Cheesehead]

I never thought TJ McConell would be in the NBA but yet there is and playing significant minutes. Ya just never know...

[IM4X]

No question they both struggle a bit on defense.

And yes, JP is much more versatile on offense and is simply more tenacious than Tre. He's shown he is willing to go after and dive for any loose ball. Tre not so much. JP is scrappier, he passes better and he has the ability to help the team in many different ways. The other thing about JP is that he is willing to change his approach on office: He will find a different way to score (or help set up another teammate to be in a better position to score) if his initial approach is not working. He just won't give up.

After watching that video recently posted of his working out, I came away feel like JP is shooting as well as he ever did. I have a feeling he finds a way onto one of the NBA rosters.

We we all know Tre is as good at shoot 3s as anyone in college when he can find some separation. Unfortunately, we also know what typically happens to him in a game when he is guarded by a very goood, quicker defender (like he was in the FSU game).

I really hope they both somehow find a way to get a spot on an NBA roster though. Good luck to them both!

[xukeith]

The Kings are involved too, apparently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWI3KzfhHvM

Ya know...ya know.

I know tre lights up UC for 40.

[mistabeecee41]

Has JP had many workouts? They've been promoting Tre's workout lists all over Twitter/Insta, but haven't seen much in terms of JP.

Workouts aren't only huge for your draft prospects, but getting summer league invites as well.

[94GRAD]

Heat Check verse uc!!!

https://twitter.com/Lakers/status/1006610933286760448

[drudy23]

I would be very surprised if either made a roster, but would be happy if they did.

[scoscox]

Tre is getting a lot of workouts. I have no idea what that means, but seems like a good sign. He's gonna end up with 16 workouts or so according to that video, so that's more than half the league.

[KFX]

Have a friend who works in the nba. He’s been in the team’s draft room for the last few days. Some interesting tidbits. Grayson, Donte DiVencenzo and Huerter from Maryland all tested out top five in athletic ability. Grayson best in the draft. 37 inch vertical with one step is the metric I recall and there are many. The thought is he’s a freak athlete and a great competitor and his shot will improve. DiVencenzo getting a lot of attention. Villanova has 4 guys who will get drafted in first round. Tre Bluiett not getting a mention. When he worked out the take was what we all know - nice shot. But defense is a struggle as is beating the defender on the dribble. One coach said and I’m quoting - the kid is a “one trick pony”. But that is one coach in a league full of them and it’s a shooters league so it’s a good trick to have. Wish Tre the best.

[whopper]

This is the downside of rooting for a real team. We never had the real stud to totally take over the game and make their own shot; Trevon was as close as we had. Except for Sumner(who met all the metrics) there has not been enormous NBA interest on these X players. I actually appreciate it now even more as kind of a purist how well we played without any NBA locks. I hope someone breaks through and it will probably be Tre. Man is it tough to make the NBA and I would have thought Malcolm Foster, and Kellan Martin would be "locks" and even they get limited interest but Khyrie Thomas is a "lock" due to the metrics. Not the way I learned the game but this is 2018. The fact that Villanova has 4 first round draftees is amazing and shows the mountain we had to climb..in hindsight the Villanova losses had to do with them looking past opponents(Butler, Creighton, Providence, St Johns) and they would never look past Xavier which is a testament to Xavier(I guess)

[Xville]

This is the downside of rooting for a real team. We never had the real stud to totally take over the game and make their own shot; Trevon was as close as we had. Except for Sumner(who met all the metrics) there has not been enormous NBA interest on these X players. I actually appreciate it now even more as kind of a purist how well we played without any NBA locks. I hope someone breaks through and it will probably be Tre. Man is it tough to make the NBA and I would have thought Malcolm Foster, and Kellan Martin would be "locks" and even they get limited interest but Khyrie Thomas is a "lock" due to the metrics. Not the way I learned the game but this is 2018. The fact that Villanova has 4 first round draftees is amazing and shows the mountain we had to climb..in hindsight the Villanova losses had to do with them looking past opponents(Butler, Creighton, Providence, St Johns) and they would never look past Xavier which is a testament to Xavier(I guess)

A few things here. The NBA cares about metrics more than the ability to play good basketball. If you can or have both, great...you are most likely a top ten pick. However, the problem with people like Tre and Martin are 1.) they aren't athletic even by NCAA D 1 standards and 2.) they are too short for the NBA in the way that they play basketball. NBA teams believe that if you have the metrics, they can teach you how to play in the league...sometimes they are right, sometimes they are wrong. However, people like Tre and Martin are never going to grow a couple more inches, or become athletic....those guys go to Europe and make pretty good livings though.

Secondly, its pretty simple why Mack coached teams routinely got bludgeoned by Villanova. 1.) Mack doesn't value defense and 2.) the packline hybrid defense that Mack employed made it simply too easy for Nova's biggest strength...shooting and making threes

[murray87]

In today's NBA, I wonder what the draft chatter would be for a Brian Grant, Tyrone Hill or DFW?

[xu koop scoop]

In today's NBA, I wonder what the draft chatter would be for a Brian Grant, Tyrone Hill or DFW?

Don't forget James Posey, Aaron Williams or even Derrick Strong. These 3 and the 3 above were all stellar NBA players who played in the old MCC or A10.

[smileyy]

My opinions:

James Posey would continue to be an ideal fit in the NBA as a 3-and-D wing.

The rest of the guys -- its hard to tell because of what's known as "timelining". A lunchpail big who can't protect the rim, can't defend (well) out in space on the floor, and can't shoot the 3 aren't going to be stars in the modern game. The timelining comes in when you think about if they *would have* developed those skills if they were known to be valued at the time.

Strong, IIRC, ended up playing mostly SF (he was a *generous* 6'8") and I think could have been a 3-and-D wing *if* he could extend his range to 3-point range.
DFW would want to to develop a 3-point shot as well, as a stretch-4. His game, which included a lot of midrange 2's, has fallen out of favor as those are less efficient shots than shots at the rim or 3-pointers.

Hill, Williams and Grant are kind of lost to the dustbin of history -- the game has changed to no longer value their skillset. Williams might be valued for rim protection, though at 6'9" he's a little small for that.

Edit: nvm, bask-ref lists Strong exclusively as a PF: https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/s/stronde01.html

[D-West & PO-Z]

I think nova will have 2 go in first round. I think Brinson falls into early second and spellman middle second round. Spellman shoulda gone back.

[whopper]

The fact that Brunson has a chance of falling to second round means I now know nothing about basketball. The metrics guys have taken over and if Fred Van Fleet(who i thought had a similar game to Mark Jackson )can contribute Brunson can as he is a much more athletic Mark Jackson with range.

[Xville]

I think Brunson can contribute to a team and be a good backup g in the league. However, he is what he is and are you going to waste a first round pick on him? Not waste but you know what I mean.

With all of that said, personally if I'm a gm with a pick at the end of the first round and I need a guard, brunson is a great value.

[drudy23]

Can all of the people who yelled at the people that said Tre will never make the NBA admit they were wrong. There were alot of them.

[xuwin]

Can all of the people who yelled at the people that said Tre will never make the NBA admit they were wrong. There were alot of them.

What's your point? Have you ever been wrong?

[Lloyd Braun]

I think nova will have 2 go in first round. I think Brinson falls into early second and spellman middle second round. Spellman shoulda gone back.

The problem for Spellman is that he is not young. He turns 21 in a month. He would really have to improve his stock to move up being an almost 22 year old next year. In years past a first round contract was significantly better than being a second rounder. That gap has closed and in some cases it is better to be a free agent a year earlier as a second round pick (Malcolm Brogdan comes to mind who will be a RFA next year).

[drudy23]

What's your point? Have you ever been wrong?

A couple times.

[xu95]

Can all of the people who yelled at the people that said Tre will never make the NBA admit they were wrong. There were alot of them.

Did I miss something? Did Trevon get drafted? Is he on some teams roster? Maybe you shouldn't jump your gun on tooting your own horn.

xu95

[drudy23]

Did I miss something? Did Trevon get drafted? Is he on some teams roster? Maybe you shouldn't jump your gun on tooting your own horn.

xu95

Stop...we both know he's not getting drafted. We've known for years.

That being said, I'd love for him to get drafted.

[markchal]

Best of luck to Tre tonight, hope he gets to hear his name called. If not, I hope he lands somewhere great for his next stop.

[xu95]

Stop...we both know he's not getting drafted. We've known for years.

That being said, I'd love for him to get drafted.

Sorry, I misread your first post. I thought you were claiming all of the people who said he wouldn't make it in the NBA were wrong. I didn't realize you were taking the opposite stance.

xu95

[smileyy]

IMO, Spellman needs to demonstrate that he can be not-fat. Hopefully for the Big East rep he can be motivated by the prospect of being in the NBA.

[smileyy]

I was probably a little harsh on especially Tyrone Hill in my evaluation above. I think there's still a place for him in the modern NBA. I don't think he'd be the lottery pick that he was.

[Lloyd Braun]

Spellman sneaks into first round.... so to summarize Nova has 3 first rounders. Oh but not Brunson, the big east and national POY. Crazy

[XUGRAD80]

Can all of the people who yelled at the people that said Tre will never make the NBA admit they were wrong. There were alot of them.

A....just because a player isn’t drafted doesn’t mean that they won’t play in the NBA
B...I agree that Tre has always been a long shot in regards to playing in the NBA, but there’s still a chance. A slim chance is still a chance
C...getting drafted in the 2nd round doesn’t guarantee you a contract in most cases
D...the college game and the pro game are two different games
E...how some of those NBA teams evaluate and judge talent is beyond me....I don’t see how some of those personal people even get jobs

F...time to forget about the NBA again until next May when the playoffs get serious

[whopper]

Just watched CNBC business morning (every day) and Joe Kernan (Cincinnati guy who loves Xavier) pointed out that Devincenzo went from 6th man to 16th pick on NCAA tourney play and "Trevon Bluett, a tremendous player with a great career, has 5 turnovers and 8 points against Florida State and is not drafted"..Honestly I used to live for draft day in the 80s and 90s but with one and done, non USA players and the new player "template" (metrics, combine, 3 and D) used by "scouts" (met a few, mostly 40 something basketball Jones hanger on types) I really don't care anymore. Looked at draft today, bunch of Miami, Texas A and M, Kentucky "metric guys" who I see was a fan all about 6'8" and fast and high jumping guys who don't win much and don't make an impression(with me). No Seton Hall guys, no Providence guys, no Mal Foster or Kellan Martin, many "safe" choices. Kyhrie Thomas a very safe choice that won't get anyone fired. Then again at 62 my input is meaningless. Very jealous though of a friend (BC grad) who was talking up Robinson all year and I was dismissive as an X fan; Robinson 14th pick. Villanova I think is a once in a lifetime situation where skills and metrics meet; best team I have seen in 50 years of playing, watching, even coaching.

[Xville]

Just watched CNBC business morning (every day) and Joe Kernan (Cincinnati guy who loves Xavier) pointed out that Devincenzo went from 6th man to 16th pick on NCAA tourney play and "Trevon Bluett, a tremendous player with a great career, has 5 turnovers and 8 points against Florida State and is not drafted"..Honestly I used to live for draft day in the 80s and 90s but with one and done, non USA players and the new player "template" (metrics, combine, 3 and D) used by "scouts" (met a few, mostly 40 something basketball Jones hanger on types) I really don't care anymore. Looked at draft today, bunch of Miami, Texas A and M, Kentucky "metric guys" who I see was a fan all about 6'8" and fast and high jumping guys who don't win much and don't make an impression(with me). No Seton Hall guys, no Providence guys, no Mal Foster or Kellan Martin, many "safe" choices. Kyhrie Thomas a very safe choice that won't get anyone fired. Then again at 62 my input is meaningless. Very jealous though of a friend (BC grad) who was talking up Robinson all year and I was dismissive as an X fan; Robinson 14th pick. Villanova I think is a once in a lifetime situation where skills and metrics meet; best team I have seen in 50 years of playing, watching, even coaching.

Agree with most of this but it wouldn't matter what tre did in the tourney....he would still be what he is, a one trick pony who cant guard anyone.

The reason why Divincenzo went from 6th man to 16th pick is because scouts finally got a chance to see who he was...an athletically gifted, good shooter, can drive to the hole, and play some d kind of player.

[whopper]

Divencenzo reminded me of Dwayne Wade with his blocks, rebounding and finishing. Not a popular comparison but we will see. Still surprised to hear Trevon mentioned on CNBC.

[KFX]

Villanova 4 players in top 33. And Xavier won the conference. Small consolation for an early exit and a hell of an accomplishment at the same time.

[whopper]

Villanova 4 players in top 33. And Xavier won the conference. Small consolation for an early exit and a hell of an accomplishment at the same time.

In each case the V player is 10-15% better.

Donte > JP
Bridges > Tre
Brunson > Q
Pascal > Naj
Spellman = 3 headed center
Booth > Scruggs
Cosby-? = Gates

There is no shame in this and on any given day one or two could play better than counterparts but you need 3 or more to outplay and turned out to be too much to ask. Great job by all and man oh man would I like some of those FT back against FSU.

[XMuskieFTW]

In each case the V player is 10-15% better.

Donte > JP
Bridges > Tre
Brunson > Q
Pascal > Naj
Spellman = 3 headed center
Booth > Scruggs
Cosby-? = Gates

There is no shame in this and on any given day one or two could play better than counterparts but you need 3 or more to outplay and turned out to be too much to ask. Great job by all and man oh man would I like some of those FT back against FSU.

I mean you're comparing 4th year guys in Booth and Paschall to freshman in Naji and Scruggs but put a ? for Cosby vs Kaiser? Kaiser was clearly better than Cosby-Roundtree last year. If you're going off what their career will end up being, I'd take Naji over Paschall and Scruggs over Booth.

Either way, X needs to get to the point where they are landing three 25-100 guys a year like Nova instead of three 50-150 guys a year.

[drudy23]

I's probably put Naj ahead of Pascall. Or at least even.

Everyone else you're likely right.

We're never going to win with a bunch of NBA guys. Going to have to continue to rely on great team ball and the occasional NBA guy. We had a great shot this year. Really wish we could have the FSU game back. I think we go to the Final Four...but we all know how that works.

[whopper]

I mean you're comparing 4th year guys in Booth and Paschall to freshman in Naji and Scruggs but put a ? for Cosby vs Kaiser? Kaiser was clearly better than Cosby-Roundtree last year. If you're going off what their career will end up being, I'd take Naji over Paschall and Scruggs over Booth.

Either way, X needs to get to the point where they are landing three 25-100 guys a year like Nova instead of three 50-150 guys a year.

I actually put up a ? as I forgot Roundtree and Kaiser better. I am hoping this Villanova team is an outlier as I can't think of any team with 4 top 33 players drafted that won a championship. That means they have the skill AND future potential..a scary thought. in any event on to next year. On the Villanova web site Booth and Pascall are listed as red shirt juniors so I "think" they are back(harder to follow than ever). Paschall had a game very similar to Larry Johnson (maybe Barkeley as a stretch) and Booth had 20 on 6-7 in the champship game and was all tourney and should play in NBA. I kind of forgot that, damn Villanova.

[smileyy]

Going to have to continue to rely on great team ball and the occasional NBA guy

I'm not sure how sure I am of that. I think Xavier is in better position to land/produce future NBA players than it has been in the last 5-10 years. The guards are getting bigger, stronger and faster than ever before and the wings are getting 3-er-and-d-ier as well. I guess it depends whether Q, Scruggs and Marshall are exceptional gets, or a new baseline. If they're a new "baseline", then the guys above the baseline are going to be NBA-talent. Naji is probably on the borderline as it is, especially if he develops his spot-up shot.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Naji is our best pro prospect now but Scruggs could be good. Both need jumpers and fast as they are older than their class.


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[Lloyd Braun]

Naji is our best pro prospect now but Scruggs could be good. Both need jumpers and fast as they are older than their class.


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Don’t sleep on Q

[xu koop scoop]

Tre needed to put up 4 straight 20 plus games in NCAA Tourney & get us to Final 4. He would have been drafted in that case. His 8 pts, 5 TO vs Fla St helped doom him. Maybe he can work his way to the NBA someday, but I'd put better money on Kanter or JP making it. The only guy in the last 30 yrs at X that I remember not getting drafted & carving his way into a long term NBA career was Aaron Williams.

[smileyy]

Strong got drafted but not picked up. He bounced around Europe and the CBA, iirc, before making it to the NBA.

And yeah, Williams really put in the work to make it into the league.

[drudy23]

Tre really did get swallowed up against FSU. Looked beyond slow in that game in particular.

And we still should have won by double digits. Crap.

[whopper]

The weird thing is that the swallowing up let others like JP and Karem thrive but Tre could not turn in on at end of game after being cold. Must let it go though

[scoscox]

Well, JP had fouled out by the end of the game and Naji was hurt and kerem was in foul trouble, so they were perfectly able to concentrate entirely on trevon.

[MHettel]

JP had fouled out

I think what you meant to say is that the refs blew their whistles 5 times and called a foul on JP.

[bjf123]

I think what you meant to say is that the refs blew their whistles 5 times and called a foul on JP.

This!


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[scoscox]

Well that was implied

[XfansinKy]

I've hoped a team would pick him up that's not as concerned about defense, but badly needs a designated spot up 3 point shooter. The only problem is he's just not that good at shooting threes at around 35% on a shorter distance than NBA. He's 6'5 with a 30" vertical, tops, and will have to shoot over 6'7-6'10 with 36"-44" verticals. I hope he makes it but he won't.

[sirthought]

Bluiett has been transferred up to the Pels

[whopper]

often in sports the deck gets reshuffled. For example JP has really shined in the g league(exceed my expectations) and now "may" be an equal pro prospect to Greyson Allen. Tre is up and he gets his chance..if Alonzo Trier can contribute maybe he can. Good luck and that is part of the journey..lets support this year's team that has given us so much pleasure in the past.

[Jumpin_Jamal_Forever]

It is incredible how different the college and NBA games are. As a 50 year watcher of both (Alcindor and 69 Knicks are earliest memories at age 13) the college game has so much more vibrancy. Unbelievable talent in NBA, breathtaking athletes but getting to be like watching Roadrunner v Coyote..both punching a clock to a pre ordained script. Loved the last 4 years and looking forward to next year

Here, here. NBA is predictable and really pretty boring unless you get off watching guys run up and down the floor dunking but playing almost no defense. Playoffs a little more interesting but by the time the playoffs even arrive, I've lost interest. Wasn't always that way. One of the more interesting NBA teams was the Pistons in the days of the Bad Boys. Bill Laimbeer has to be one of the dirtiest players of all time----but he kept things interesting.

[Juice]

Here, here. NBA is predictable and really pretty boring unless you get off watching guys run up and down the floor dunking but playing almost no defense. Playoffs a little more interesting but by the time the playoffs even arrive, I've lost interest. Wasn't always that way. One of the more interesting NBA teams was the Pistons in the days of the Bad Boys. Bill Laimbeer has to be one of the dirtiest players of all time----but he kept things interesting.

The NBA plays better defense than the NCAA, and it's not even close. Where the hell did this misconception come from and why do people repeat it as fact?

[xu82]

The NBA plays better defense than the NCAA, and it's not even close. Where the hell did this misconception come from and why do people repeat it as fact?

I think it’s because they play so many (TOO many) games, and try so little most of the year. I remember taking our AAU playing kids to a game in Charlotte once, spending like $600 on the night, and my youngest turned to me 5 minutes in and said “they’re not even trying”. It was hard to argue, and why I’m fine if I never go to an NBA game again. I’ll wait until the playoffs to even watch on TV.

[Xville]

The NBA plays better defense than the NCAA, and it's not even close. Where the hell did this misconception come from and why do people repeat it as fact?

Completely agree when it comes to the playoffs..regular season? Meh..I dont watch a ton of regular season NBA but the games I have, guys certainly seem less enthused to play d a lot of the time.

[sirthought]

It's partially because the games are called differently in the NBA. No hand checking. Space for the offense is viewed differently. And in some cases guys just don't want to get off the floor for fouling when in so many cases they could stop a bucket, but not the guy scoring because he'll hit free throws.

Yes, scoring is way up in the NBA because of some of these things. But I still say they play way better defense overall. The offense is often too hard stop at this level the way they call the games.

[XUBison]

The NBA plays better defense than the NCAA, and it's not even close. Where the hell did this misconception come from and why do people repeat it as fact?

Agree 100%. Fine if the NBA isn’t your thing, but this narrative is plain wrong.

[Juice]

Agree 100%. Fine if the NBA isn’t your thing, but this narrative is plain wrong.

Amen. I definitely prefer college basketball but it's not because college players "actually play defense" or whatever. To deny that NBA players are immensely talented on both sides of the ball is insane and downright stupid.

That being said, sorry for getting everything off track. Congrats to Tre. I hope he sticks because X needs guys on NBA rosters since West retired.

[paulxu]

The Pelicans beat the Mavs tonight by 2...by taking almost 20 more shots.
However, from 3, they were a miserable 4-23.

They can use Bluiett's outside shooting.

[kellernr]

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[paulxu]

Hornets getting hammered. JP may see some minutes.

[kellernr]

Hornets getting hammered. JP may see some minutes.13 minutes. 4 pts 2 Ast and 2 rebounds. 0/4 from 3. 2/8 from the floor

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[kellernr]

Tre might see some minutes too. Pelicans getting blown out. 4th qtr just starting

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[MITTENMUSKIE16]

Tre might see some minutes too. Pelicans getting blown out. 4th qtr just starting

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Unfortunately they transferred him back to the G-League. This time to Salt Lake City.

[XUOWNSUC]

13 minutes. 4 pts 2 Ast and 2 rebounds. 0/4 from 3. 2/8 from the floor

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Congrats to JP!

[kellernr]

Unfortunately they transferred him back to the G-League. This time to Salt Lake City.Ah. Didnt know that. Hopefully JP can keep seeing minutes and maybe latch on.

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