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kellernr
04-02-2018, 08:35 AM
Didnt realize we will still have 4 open scholarships to fill for next season.

Senior - Gates
Juniors - Q and Jones
Soph - Naji, Scruggs and Harden
Frosh - Kennedy, James, Walter

Hopefuly Steele is able to get a grad transfer and a JUCO player. Lookin at the current roster im worried we will be weak at the 5. Jones is always hurt and Walter looks like a project. Any 3-4 star highschool seniors left the havent committed anywhere yet?

drudy23
04-02-2018, 08:36 AM
Depth going to be an issue next year. We need 1 (or 2) grad transfers.

XUGRAD80
04-02-2018, 08:53 AM
Don’t have any information, but it wouldn’t surprise me if we saw some type of movement/announcement this week or next. However, I do feel that for this next year we are going g to have to give Coach Steele a pass. The 2018 class doesn’t have a who,e lot of promise left in it, but Xavier (according to 24/7 and VC sites) is high on the list of many top 100 players for 2019. Would hope to see a grad transfer and a Juco being added for immediate help next year. Xavier is in the position to promise significant playing time, especially in the forward/center positions.

kellernr
04-02-2018, 09:00 AM
Don’t have any information, but it wouldn’t surprise me if we saw some type of movement/announcement this week or next. However, I do feel that for this next year we are going g to have to give Coach Steele a pass. The 2018 class doesn’t have a who,e lot of promise left in it, but Xavier (according to 24/7 and VC sites) is high on the list of many top 100 players for 2019. Would hope to see a grad transfer and a Juco being added for immediate help next year. Xavier is in the position to promise significant playing time, especially in the forward/center positions.I think Walters will be good by his junior and senior seasons. Need jones to to get his body in shape this off-season. He might be looking at having to play 25-30 min per game unless we go 4 guards with Gates out there. Are there any more kanter brothers?

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drudy23
04-02-2018, 09:13 AM
Walters may have to contribute next year. Learning on the job big fella. At a minimum, come in and get some boards.

BandAid
04-02-2018, 09:28 AM
i have a year of eligibility left

MITTENMUSKIE16
04-02-2018, 09:33 AM
Priority list (from player personnel perspective, only) for Coach Steele has to be:

1) Grad transfer 5
2) Grad transfer shooter, at any position 1-4
3) Probably a sit one- play two type guy that will help solidify the F4 team that is the Q, Rique, Naji, Paul core for the '19 team.

UCGRAD4X
04-02-2018, 09:34 AM
i have a year of eligibility left

Next man up big fella!

GoMuskies
04-02-2018, 09:35 AM
i have a year of eligibility left

Sorry, but I think you're going to have to settle for playing goalie in the NHL at this point.

GoMuskies
04-02-2018, 09:37 AM
3) Probably a sit one- play two type guy that will help solidify the F4 team that is the Q, Rique, Naji, Paul core for the '19 team.

Or it could be a JUCO with two years to play who could help out both years. Those JUCO's tend to not really come into their own (if at all) until their second year, so the right guy (if he's out there) could work out well in this plan.

bleedXblue
04-02-2018, 09:39 AM
If you're a 5th year or JUCO, you have to look at X and like the fact that there is playing time right away with a really nice core group of guys.

I would think Steele can grab at least 2-3 guys that are looking at wanting to play right away and contribute.

Need shooters, post help and defensive help.

MITTENMUSKIE16
04-02-2018, 09:41 AM
Good point. I know baseball does the JUCO route more than any other sport. Ernst was a juco guy, I think. They don’t get nearly the coverage that grad transfers and regular transfers do, so it’s hard to know what’s really out there unless you (you as in you and I, not Coach Steele) go looking.

throwbackmuskie
04-02-2018, 10:17 AM
Larry Austin is transferring again.

Some guys to look at

Carr- Pitt
Cunningham- USC Upstate
Dillard- Ok St
Ergas- Wash St
Walker- FSU

Olsingledigit
04-02-2018, 11:00 AM
Next man up big fella!

I have four years left and there is a reason for that. And I am 72 years old.

Olsingledigit
04-02-2018, 11:02 AM
Larry Austin is transferring again.

Some guys to look at

Carr- Pitt
Cunningham- USC Upstate
Dillard- Ok St
Ergas- Wash St
Walker- FSU
And Moyer of Cuse. Most if not all of these have to sit a year.

MHettel
04-02-2018, 11:46 AM
Unless we can get someone that is immediately eligible, I'd think those schollies would have more value the following year by bringing in freshman.

The issue is that we need eligible players next year. best case scenario is 2 grad transfers, a Big and a shooter. Then we should have probably 5 scholarships for the next incoming class, and Steele can focus on that

BandAid
04-02-2018, 11:46 AM
Larry Austin is transferring again.


Is Larry a grad tansfer?

flatspat
04-02-2018, 11:47 AM
What is the story about the 6'10 D2 player of the year? Wasn't he on
Xavier's radar?

kellernr
04-02-2018, 12:12 PM
Unless we can get someone that is immediately eligible, I'd think those schollies would have more value the following year by bringing in freshman.

The issue is that we need eligible players next year. best case scenario is 2 grad transfers, a Big and a shooter. Then we should have probably 5 scholarships for the next incoming class, and Steele can focus on thatThat's what I was thinking. Get what you can now with 2 and then go for a big class next year.

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Masterofreality
04-02-2018, 12:36 PM
What is the story about the 6'10 D2 player of the year? Wasn't he on
Xavier's radar?

Yup. And immediately eligible too. Travis has known him for awhile. Hmmmmmmm.

Masterofreality
04-02-2018, 12:39 PM
Larry Austin is transferring again.



Is Larry a grad tansfer?

Wow. What a disappointment LAJ turned out to be. We allegedly had to beat out big schools for him. He only came to us after Tennessee's coach took off and he opened his recruitment. Dude CANNOT shoot or score.

GoMuskies
04-02-2018, 12:42 PM
Yeah, I had no idea he was at Vandy. Barely played on a bad team. Crazy. At least he got a great education.

Grizzx12
04-02-2018, 01:32 PM
Not sure where he'd fit but the best local D1 player up here in the Albany area is choosing to graduate early and play in a bigger league. Thought it was interesting when I googled to see where he was getting interest and saw OSU, Lousiville, Cincy, and Arizona

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/othercolleges/2018/04/02/report-uc-ex-xavier-coaches-others-contact-albany-transfer-cremo/478546002/

GoMuskies
04-02-2018, 01:44 PM
This article says that basically the kitchen sink of programs have reached out: Arizona, Cincinnati, Creighton, Louisville, Marquette, Ohio State, Seton Hall, St. Bonaventure, St. Joseph’s, SMU, Texas, Texas Tech, UConn, West Virginia and Wichita State.

https://247sports.com/college/louisville/Article/Coveted-graduate-basketball-transfer-Joe-Cremo-in-unfamiliar-territory-116937904

Juice
04-02-2018, 01:45 PM
Jeff Borzello
‏@jeffborzello

Florida Gulf Coast's Zach Johnson has heard from Gonzaga, Louisville, VCU, Oklahoma, Miami, Creighton, Dayton, Saint Louis and Xavier about a potential grad transfer.

Also testing the NBA Draft waters without an agent. 16.1 PPG, 37 in A-Sun title game.

markchal
04-02-2018, 01:49 PM
sucks Louisville is such a dumpster fire that we're gonna be competing with Mack for any decent player left.

GetUp5
04-02-2018, 02:50 PM
Jeff Borzello
‏@jeffborzello

Florida Gulf Coast's Zach Johnson has heard from Gonzaga, Louisville, VCU, Oklahoma, Miami, Creighton, Dayton, Saint Louis and Xavier about a potential grad transfer.

Also testing the NBA Draft waters without an agent. 16.1 PPG, 37 in A-Sun title game.

Being the degenerate I am, I watched a few FGCU games this year. Zach Johnson would be a huge help for next season. 37.5% career 3p shooter.

Lloyd Braun
04-02-2018, 03:27 PM
Being the degenerate I am, I watched a few FGCU games this year. Zach Johnson would be a huge help for next season. 37.5% career 3p shooter.

He’s also 125/1 odds to win in Augusta this week which I feel is decent value.

X-Expert
04-02-2018, 05:41 PM
Ok first time on this site. I'm sure many of you know more than me but from what i have read or heard, here are a few people that X have been recruiting hard. If someone knows more, please update. this is for next year:

Marlon Taylor (Panola college-JUCO)-6-5 freak athlete who shoots well. Many mid majors and a couple of high majors including X, Illinois, and a few others. He had X as "high" interest

Zach Hankins (Ferris State Juco) D-2 player of the year; 6'10 -personally have not seen anything on him but have heard from a few people he was considering X. Also, NDSU room, he is considering them too.

Tevian Jones (FR)-visited illinois early March. At that time cut list to Illinois, X, Miss St and Cal. UC was in the mix at one point as well as Ariz. He visited Illinois because X was still in tourney. 117 rated player. Similar to Marlon Taylor. Illinois appears to have inside track

Bryce Golden-no idea if considering X. He was a 3/4 star (depending on who you look at) that committed to play at Pitt next year. After Stallings was fired, he de-committed.

I just liked what i had heard for 2018. Any updates please correct.

GoMuskies
04-02-2018, 05:43 PM
Nice first post. This is more actual information than in ALL of my posts combined. :) Welcome.

xu82
04-02-2018, 05:53 PM
Nice first post. This is more actual information than in ALL of my posts combined. :) Welcome.

Would it be rude to agree with you? :)

GIMMFD
04-02-2018, 06:25 PM
Ok first time on this site. I'm sure many of you know more than me but from what i have read or heard, here are a few people that X have been recruiting hard. If someone knows more, please update. this is for next year:

Marlon Taylor (Panola college-JUCO)-6-5 freak athlete who shoots well. Many mid majors and a couple of high majors including X, Illinois, and a few others. He had X as "high" interest

Zach Hankins (Ferris State Juco) D-2 player of the year; 6'10 -personally have not seen anything on him but have heard from a few people he was considering X. Also, NDSU room, he is considering them too.

Tevian Jones (FR)-visited illinois early March. At that time cut list to Illinois, X, Miss St and Cal. UC was in the mix at one point as well as Ariz. He visited Illinois because X was still in tourney. 117 rated player. Similar to Marlon Taylor. Illinois appears to have inside track

Bryce Golden-no idea if considering X. He was a 3/4 star (depending on who you look at) that committed to play at Pitt next year. After Stallings was fired, he de-committed.

I just liked what i had heard for 2018. Any updates please correct.

Welcome aboard bud!!! Always happy to have new posters.

Also great list of information here, and then combine that with the list that has Golden, Carr, etc. and you have a bigger picture. We're looking to have a monster class in 2019, hopefully we keep Samari Curtis, I agree with the other guys that say he's really going to rise in the recruiting rankings after this year. I could see us pulling in a very good class to sandwich this underwhelming class coming in so far. Steele has his work cut out for him, but I have faith we'll get stuff sorted out. Hopefully it's a lot clearer in the next week or so.

X-Expert
04-02-2018, 08:21 PM
Welcome aboard bud!!! Always happy to have new posters.

Also great list of information here, and then combine that with the list that has Golden, Carr, etc. and you have a bigger picture. We're looking to have a monster class in 2019, hopefully we keep Samari Curtis, I agree with the other guys that say he's really going to rise in the recruiting rankings after this year. I could see us pulling in a very good class to sandwich this underwhelming class coming in so far. Steele has his work cut out for him, but I have faith we'll get stuff sorted out. Hopefully it's a lot clearer in the next week or so.
Thank you XU82 and GMMFD-i wasn't completely clear here. These players are actually for 2018 so they would all be eligible next year. As for Golden, he is someone that X recruited and he chose Pitt. Someone mentioned Curtis, i'm not saying he is definitely going to X but he is very close to Steele. Mack too but supposedly as soon as Mack took L-ville, there was a report that someone reached out to an X 2019 commit and asked about if he would still stay committed to X and that recruit said he would if Steele was the coach. Since Curtis is the only 2019 verbal commit, it was assumed that he was the individual. One last did bit, Tevian Jones is making his decision on April 11 so hopefully we will see him visit X this week. Time will tell.

GIMMFD
04-02-2018, 08:53 PM
Thank you XU82 and GMMFD-i wasn't completely clear here. These players are actually for 2018 so they would all be eligible next year. As for Golden, he is someone that X recruited and he chose Pitt. Someone mentioned Curtis, i'm not saying he is definitely going to X but he is very close to Steele. Mack too but supposedly as soon as Mack took L-ville, there was a report that someone reached out to an X 2019 commit and asked about if he would still stay committed to X and that recruit said he would if Steele was the coach. Since Curtis is the only 2019 verbal commit, it was assumed that he was the individual. One last did bit, Tevian Jones is making his decision on April 11 so hopefully we will see him visit X this week. Time will tell.

A reservoir of knowledge my man, good to have you on board. Okay, so this is basically a list of people who could have immediate impact, I also saw Banners tweet (Brad, Joel, if you're reading this, you guys are awesome!!) about Nat Dixon, a 6'4 grad transfer guard from Chattanooga, not impressive statistics, only averaged 2.5 pts per game with 1.7 rebounds per game in 15 minutes per, but is known as more of a defensive specialist, shot a decent 33% from the 3, could be helpful for depth, and as mentioned earlier Zach Johnson from Florida Gulf Coast, but we'll see with him testing draft waters first, maybe he'll end up pulling a Kanter and committing to Xavier and taking his name out of the draft. Would love to get some immediate help for next year, since we're losing so much. However, if the rest of our roster (other than Bourdeaux of course) stays put, we'll still have a pretty good core.

paulxu
04-02-2018, 10:13 PM
Nat Dixon, a 6'4 grad transfer guard from Chattanooga, not impressive statistics, only averaged 2.5 pts per game with 1.7 rebounds per game in 15 minutes per,

Huh? I saw Nat Dixon play against Wofford (with Makinde London on the team).
Dixon is a junior, and averaged 13.8 pts this year.
He averaged 2.5 pts last year.
He put up 17 against Wofford the night I saw him (on 50% shooting)

Maybe he is actually a grad transfer. Don't know. Expect he could help us.

GIMMFD
04-03-2018, 12:37 AM
Huh? I saw Nat Dixon play against Wofford (with Makinde London on the team).
Dixon is a junior, and averaged 13.8 pts this year.
He averaged 2.5 pts last year.
He put up 17 against Wofford the night I saw him (on 50% shooting)

Maybe he is actually a grad transfer. Don't know. Expect he could help us.

I guess reading isn't my forte huh?? I just glanced at the Chattanooga bio of him, and read the first line, 13.8 is a lot better lol, and if he can shoot like that, he's definitely a good pick up. Realistically we need depth and a big man and a guard would be ideal to round things out for the grad transfer route to piece together our line-up. I trust our guys know what we need to bring in, hell Kanter didn't have the most amazing statistics but that worked out wonderful for us.

X-Expert
04-03-2018, 01:37 PM
Bad news-Tevian Jones committed to Illinois.

Really hoping for Marlon Taylor and Zach Hankins.

JTG
04-03-2018, 02:46 PM
Bad news-Tevian Jones committed to Illinois.

Really hoping for Marlon Taylor and Zach Hankins.

Illinois is the laughing stock of the BIG, why go there ?

Juice
04-03-2018, 04:26 PM
Illinois is the laughing stock of the BIG, why go there ?

Brad Underwood, although early in his head coaching career, appears to be a really good coach.

throwbackmuskie
04-04-2018, 10:00 AM
Brad Underwood, although early in his head coaching career, appears to be a really good coach.

he did really well at SFA and had a solid year at OK St

GIMMFD
04-04-2018, 08:21 PM
Looks like we're really getting after the transfer market, a couple more names that confirmed Xavier has made contact:

David Nichols - Albany - 6'0 guard, averaged 14.6 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 3.5 apg, shot 36.5% from the 3 this year; graduate transfer can play immediately

Ryan Daly - Deleware - 6'2 guard, averaged 17.5 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 2.4 apg, shot 31.1% from the 3 this year; has to sit one to play two

Lloyd Braun
04-04-2018, 10:05 PM
Add Kyle Castlin to the list per Jeff Goodman.

JTG
04-05-2018, 09:00 AM
Indy Star reporting today 6'9" Ryan Welage of San Jose State is definitely interested in transferring to X. 18 ppg, 43% 3 pt shooter, 161 3s in 3 seasons. Could be eligible next season pending new NCAA rules. He's from Greensburg In. Says he has been in contact with Steele. Baylor, Unc greensboro, and Belmont interested also.

X-ceptional
04-05-2018, 09:21 AM
Indy Star reporting today 6'9" Ryan Welage of San Jose State is definitely interested in transferring to X. 18 ppg, 43% 3 pt shooter, 161 3s in 3 seasons. Could be eligible next season pending new NCAA rules. He's from Greensburg In. Says he has been in contact with Steele. Baylor, Unc greensboro, and Belmont interested also.

Yes please.

kellernr
04-05-2018, 09:29 AM
Indy Star reporting today 6'9" Ryan Welage of San Jose State is definitely interested in transferring to X. 18 ppg, 43% 3 pt shooter, 161 3s in 3 seasons. Could be eligible next season pending new NCAA rules. He's from Greensburg In. Says he has been in contact with Steele. Baylor, Unc greensboro, and Belmont interested also.

What rules did the NCAA change?

JTG
04-05-2018, 09:42 AM
Something about immediate eligibility, article wasn't specific.

muskiefan82
04-05-2018, 09:50 AM
What rules did the NCAA change?

It's currently just a proposal

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2018/02/13/ncaa-considers-tying-transfer-eligibility-to-academic-marks/110380578/

Xuperman
04-05-2018, 10:47 AM
As a Xavier fan, I always wonder why we get zero top European talent. It would seem that a university such as X, with its impeccable academic reputation, coupled with its Jesuit foundation would attract some of the best. Do we not have recruiting infrastructure overseas? Is the visa red tape problematic? Does anyone have insight on what specifically is the reasoning for us not going the way of say, Gonzaga/BYU for example. They ALWAYS floor teams with a distinct international flavor. Didn't we get a commit from a 6'7" Slovenian guy a few years ago, who went pro instead?

Cheesehead
04-05-2018, 11:11 AM
As a Xavier fan, I always wonder why we get zero top European talent. It would seem that a university such as X, with its impeccable academic reputation, coupled with its Jesuit foundation would attract some of the best. Do we not have recruiting infrastructure overseas? Is the visa red tape problematic? Does anyone have insight on what specifically is the reasoning for us not going the way of say, Gonzaga/BYU for example. They ALWAYS floor teams with a distinct international flavor. Didn't we get a commit from a 6'7" Slovenian guy a few years ago, who went pro instead?

Nothing set, probably case by case basis and yes, that kid went pro.

Masterofreality
04-05-2018, 02:28 PM
Heard there will be a large Ferris Wheel on Xavier's campus next year. Can't wait for that ride!

muskiefan82
04-05-2018, 02:39 PM
Heard there will be a large Ferris Wheel on Xavier's campus next year. Can't wait for that ride!

Are we not allowed to say Zach Hankins?

GoMuskies
04-05-2018, 02:41 PM
Are we not allowed to say Zach Hankins?

His Twitter account shows him committed to Xavier. So I think it's safe.

xu9697
04-05-2018, 02:45 PM
Dang. Steele hit that recruiting trail HARD on day 1! Great get!!!

Masterofreality
04-05-2018, 02:46 PM
Are we not allowed to say Zach Hankins?

You are sure as hell allowed to NOW!! Atta boy Travis!!

X Factor
04-05-2018, 02:57 PM
Steele doesn't even have a staff yet...he's a one man show!!

This is a very nice pick up for Xavier. Hankins was DII National POY. True big man, but also pretty mobile.

GoMuskies
04-05-2018, 03:00 PM
I don't know anything about this guy, but we definitely had a big-time need for a player like him. Hopefully it works out well for everyone involved. Can't wait to see him in Hawaii (seems like a good recruiting tool to use on these grad transfers!).

Muskie
04-05-2018, 03:11 PM
https://twitter.com/evandaniels/status/981964446359732224?s=21

BandAid
04-05-2018, 03:34 PM
Indy Star reporting today 6'9" Ryan Welage of San Jose State is definitely interested in transferring to X. 18 ppg, 43% 3 pt shooter, 161 3s in 3 seasons. Could be eligible next season pending new NCAA rules. He's from Greensburg In. Says he has been in contact with Steele. Baylor, Unc greensboro, and Belmont interested also.

Hankins plus Welage would make me feel a lot more comfortable with the depth at the forward position for next year. Both would need to step up their games facing bigger, stronger, more atlhetic opponents game after game. But they’d provide options and versatility dependent upon matchups. And 1/2 of them is already committed! Welcome to X Hankins!

JTG
04-05-2018, 03:54 PM
Welage seems more like Kanter with the 43% 3pt ave .

.

BandAid
04-05-2018, 04:10 PM
Welage seems more like Kanter with the 43% 3pt ave .

.

He played SF at SJSU. Watching some of his highlights from college on YouTube (I know, very biased small sample size), He appears to be a good sub for Gates, since we play more of a 4-out system. He's probably more rounded on offense than Gates (some mid-range and post game), but a step down on defense. Welage does appear to be quite thin. Unfortunately, he probably wouldn't have a ton of time to bulk up.

mistabeecee41
04-05-2018, 04:28 PM
He played SF at SJSU. Watching some of his highlights from college on YouTube (I know, very biased small sample size), He appears to be a good sub for Gates, since we play more of a 4-out system. He's probably more rounded on offense than Gates (some mid-range and post game), but a step down on defense. Welage does appear to be quite thin. Unfortunately, he probably wouldn't have a ton of time to bulk up.

wouldnt mind bringing him on for depth purposes, but i'd much rather see what we have in Dontarius as a stretch 4.

GoMuskies
04-05-2018, 04:41 PM
With Hankins in the fold, I feel like we're one more contributor away from having a pretty good roster for next year.

xu9697
04-05-2018, 04:46 PM
With Hankins in the fold, I feel like we're one more contributor away from having a pretty good roster for next year.

One would be great, but let's be greedy and get 2 more to climb that last 2%!

X-Expert
04-05-2018, 04:47 PM
Have not heard much about Marlon Taylor in a while but would be a great fit. hadX high on list a few months ago but not sure if changed when Mack left. 6'6 JUCO who can shoot and freak athlete.

Also Ryan Welage transfer from San Jose has X high on list. He may e eligible next year

Muskeagle
04-05-2018, 05:34 PM
Turns out I saw a Zach Hankins game a few years ago. I had a former student play at Findlay and I went to see a tournament game there in 2016. Findlay ended up losing to Ferris State (hadn't made the connection until I watched the following video highlight of Hankins) on a last second shot that rolled around the rim and in (62-61). Crushing loss, but I remember thinking they had some decent bigs. Hankins scored 10 points in 11 mins (5-6 shooting) off the bench in that game as a red shirt Freshman.

Anyway, I watched this highlight reel and it is hysterical. I mean, he looks like a good player, but I think the first minute is complete with dramatic music (which you'll recognize) and 15 foot jumpers. Around the minute mark they start showing a collection of passes (first in the lane....and THEN the ever dramatic "kick out"). Finally, 1:51 seconds in our 6'11" hero dunks a ball. Seriously...he looks good and it's a great pick up. We needed this guy and Steele got him and I couldn't be happier. The highlight video just cracked me up in how "un-highlighty" it is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ig1EuL3y4oQ

scoscox
04-05-2018, 05:48 PM
We still going after Marcus Carr?

xu82
04-05-2018, 05:48 PM
It’s hard to tell how that will play against the likes of Villanova, but he really runs the floor well for a big! In Steele I trust! Very happy with this pick up! (Will he be sporting the headband?)

OTRMUSKIE
04-05-2018, 05:54 PM
Was anybody else going after Zach? Make me feel a little better if some bigger names wanted him too.

XUGRAD80
04-05-2018, 06:00 PM
Don’t have any information, but it wouldn’t surprise me if we saw some type of movement/announcement this week or next. However, I do feel that for this next year we are going g to have to give Coach Steele a pass. The 2018 class doesn’t have a who,e lot of promise left in it, but Xavier (according to 24/7 and VC sites) is high on the list of many top 100 players for 2019. Would hope to see a grad transfer and a Juco being added for immediate help next year. Xavier is in the position to promise significant playing time, especially in the forward/center positions.

Glad I got this one right....wouldn’t surprise me to see another quick addition.

GoMuskies
04-05-2018, 06:20 PM
Was anybody else going after Zach? Make me feel a little better if some bigger names wanted him too.

Michigan State was interested according to Scout.

smileyy
04-05-2018, 06:36 PM
As a Xavier fan, I always wonder why we get zero top European talent. It would seem that a university such as X, with its impeccable academic reputation, coupled with its Jesuit foundation would attract some of the best. Do we not have recruiting infrastructure overseas? Is the visa red tape problematic? Does anyone have insight on what specifically is the reasoning for us not going the way of say, Gonzaga/BYU for example. They ALWAYS floor teams with a distinct international flavor. Didn't we get a commit from a 6'7" Slovenian guy a few years ago, who went pro instead?

I suspect there's zero recruiting pipeline.

X-Expert
04-05-2018, 06:57 PM
Texas Tech was also going after him. He established a relationship with Mack and Steele a long time ago. He pretty much had X for a long time and that was known according to a Michigan writer

XUGRAD80
04-05-2018, 07:22 PM
Anyone know anything about Illinois Grad Transfer Micheal Finke?...3* out of HS from Champaign, Ill. 6’10”-230. Graduated in December. Was an academic all B10. Averaged 10pts a game. Immediately eligible.

xu82
04-05-2018, 07:30 PM
Michigan State was interested according to Scout.

THAT certainly counts.

GIMMFD
04-05-2018, 07:42 PM
THAT certainly counts.

Absolutely, always great to see an offer list, and it looks like he has good intangibles and can help out with depth issues. I don't know what to expect from him, I think we were a little spoiled with how great Karem truly was as a immediate transfer, but depth ALWAYS helps, and means Tyrique will have someone to go against in practice, that can be nothing but beneficial for everybody involved.

sirthought
04-05-2018, 09:53 PM
Oh, this Zach guy looks like a great pick up! Great size. Seems to move well. Shows a decent hook shot. Willing passer. I bet by the end of the season he'll be a good contributor.

JTG
04-05-2018, 11:21 PM
Oh, this Zach guy looks like a great pick up! Great size. Seems to move well. Shows a decent hook shot. Willing passer. I bet by the end of the season he'll be a good contributor.

I'm guessing good contributor by mid Dec.

XUMIOH12
04-06-2018, 01:23 AM
Michigan State was interested according to Scout.

He had 12pts/8reb/2blk in their exhibition against Michigan State this past season.

IM4X
04-06-2018, 01:48 AM
Just what the doctor ordered. Welcome aboard Zach...

This could change everything- He did indeed look good in the game against Mich St- didn't seem to play timid or nervous against them.

He's like... Kareem (good shooting range)-Stainbrook (impressive passing skills)-Jabbar (nice hook shot)

Plus, he has nice footwork and a serious wingspan which Helps him to record additional blocks and easy dunks.

kellernr
04-06-2018, 06:48 AM
I'm guessing good contributor by mid Dec.He would have been playing D1 ball as a freshman if he didn't break his foot in high school. He apparently had d1 coaches looking at him but backed off after the injury. I like this pickup. A 6'10 guy that can step out to 15ft for a shot. Also looks like he has pretty good footwork and likes dunking when he's down low.

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GIMMFD
04-07-2018, 06:41 PM
Don't know if anybody posted this, but Columbia grad transfer Kyle Castlin is set to visit next weekend: 6'4 guard, 10.5 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 1.4apg, while shooting at 35% from behind the arc in 25 minutes a game.

XUGRAD80
04-07-2018, 08:09 PM
Xavier has expressed interest in Zach Johnson (not the golfer). 6’2” shooting guard from Florida Gulf Coast. Averaged 12ppg last year, 11ppg the prior year while shooting almost 40% from beyond the arc. Immediately eligible.

Also talking with UL among others.

X-Expert
04-07-2018, 09:12 PM
X was in the mix for Marlon Taylor (JUC) 6"6 freak athlete who can shoot. In Nov. X offered and he had X high on his list at that time. Have heard nothing about him since. If anyone knows anything on him that would be appreciated. He would be a great get

GIMMFD
04-07-2018, 09:15 PM
X was in the mix for Marlon Taylor (JUC) 6"6 freak athlete who can shoot. In Nov. X offered and he had X high on his list at that time. Have heard nothing about him since. If anyone knows anything on him that would be appreciated. He would be a great get

I haven't heard much either, pretty quiet on the Twittersphere as well about him, looks like we're high only power conference offer, but a guy that has length and shoots 43% from the 3 sounds good, I wonder why so quiet.

X Factor
04-07-2018, 09:37 PM
I'm not big on taking JUCO kids. They rarely pan out. Just look at the JUCO rankings over the past few years. Barely any of the top kids have had an impact at the high major DI level. Few and far between.

MHettel
04-07-2018, 09:47 PM
I'm not big on taking JUCO kids. They rarely pan out. Just look at the JUCO rankings over the past few years. Barely any of the top kids have had an impact at the high major DI level. Few and far between.

I agree. Although I’m LESS interested in having available scholarships going unused.

Use it or lose it. Fill the scholies with guys that can get minutes next year

X-Expert
04-07-2018, 10:17 PM
I'm not big on taking JUCO kids. They rarely pan out. Just look at the JUCO rankings over the past few years. Barely any of the top kids have had an impact at the high major DI level. Few and far between.
Agree that many don't pan out-at least not to the extent that they are successful at the JUCO level. X is a little different though from a needs standpoint. They have 2 strong facilitators in Goodin and Scruggs. If they can bring in a shooter that would be helpful. This person will not need to create as much (i.e. Bluitt/Macura) although would be nice if he can defend which will be X's calling card next year

ArizonaXUGrad
04-07-2018, 11:30 PM
13 players is a lot of kids to please with minutes. I don’t mind seeing just 10-11 players. Most of the guys are happy.


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smileyy
04-07-2018, 11:58 PM
Wasn't Jamel McLean a JUCO?

X Factor
04-08-2018, 12:03 AM
Wasn't Jamel McLean a JUCO?

No, he played his freshman year at Tulsa, transferred to X (redshirt year), and then played 3 years as a Muskie.

He had an amazing dunk in the NCAA tournament against Wisky. Jamel was a beast.

iMissMacura
04-08-2018, 12:35 AM
Pretty good article on Hankins. I think he can bring a lot to the table: https://hartonhoops.wordpress.com/2018/04/07/xavier-lands-grad-transfer-zach-hankins/

GIMMFD
04-08-2018, 01:22 AM
Pretty good article on Hankins. I think he can bring a lot to the table: https://hartonhoops.wordpress.com/2018/04/07/xavier-lands-grad-transfer-zach-hankins/

Favorite part: He loves to talk trash and rattle an opponent. He is a self proclaimed player “that opposing fans love to hate.”
I'm all for having another Macura type of player that just really bothers the hell out of everybody, scrappy, passionate, and plays his ass off.

XUGRAD80
04-08-2018, 08:08 AM
The key to Juco players is finding someone that went the Juco route because they needed to mature physically, not as a student. Someone that was too small coming out of HS, or to light, or was perhaps hurt and didn’t get noticed or get scholarship offers. X has had some success in the past, but that was back in the MCC and early A-10 days. The BE is a whole different animal. If they do bring in a Juco, expect it to take some time for him to adjust to the speed and physicality of the game at that level.

Juice
04-08-2018, 09:35 AM
No, he played his freshman year at Tulsa, transferred to X (redshirt year), and then played 3 years as a Muskie.

He had an amazing dunk in the NCAA tournament against Wisky. Jamel was a beast.

You’re probably thinking Bronson.

X-Expert
04-08-2018, 12:45 PM
That may be Jamaal McLean

smileyy
04-08-2018, 01:16 PM
Thanks! Public reps.

bleedXblue
04-08-2018, 01:39 PM
Castlin is ours!!!!

Per Shannon on Twitter

Juice
04-08-2018, 01:39 PM
Castlin just committed.

bleedXblue
04-08-2018, 01:42 PM
Huge ...shooter we needed

XUGRAD80
04-08-2018, 01:46 PM
Wow! The Coach is getting it done!

IM4X
04-08-2018, 01:47 PM
Wow... the second much needed pick up... those holes in the team are filling in quickly... Travis man of Steele... looking super.

JTG
04-08-2018, 01:47 PM
This Steele feller really has his shit together. A shooter and a trash talking big...2 for 2. Now getcha some assistants.

XUGRAD80
04-08-2018, 01:59 PM
Now just get the kid from ‘Cuse and call it a year. Keep the other scholy unfilled and start concentrating on the 2019 class.

Snipe
04-08-2018, 02:01 PM
Awesome news. I know little about the kid.

Xavier
04-08-2018, 02:01 PM
Is he really a great shooter? I think I saw he made 24 threes last season?

Muskie
04-08-2018, 02:03 PM
Is he really a great shooter? I think I saw he made 24 threes last season?

He was injured.

MITTENMUSKIE16
04-08-2018, 02:07 PM
Hoping this brings out the best in Elias (and Keonte, for that matter), the minutes now won't just be handed to either of them, but still hoping they earn lots of minutes. Two deep is looking pretty good right now:

QG
Paul
Naji
Kaiser
Rique

_________

Paul
Harden/Kennedy/Castlin
Castlin/Kennedy
James
Hankins.

Seems like Naji is the only guy without a true backup. Who do you think spells him the most at the 3? Assuming if James gets his conditioning up he could even play the three effectively in some matchups?

bleedXblue
04-08-2018, 02:34 PM
Now just get the kid from ‘Cuse and call it a year. Keep the other scholy unfilled and start concentrating on the 2019 class.

Getting 5th year guys for next year doesn't affect the future....we still have two open spots

The kid from Cuse will have to sit out a year

ArizonaXUGrad
04-08-2018, 02:41 PM
I like this, in the past first year coaches had to reach for recruits in their first year. Now Steele can fill his roster out with some experience and have time to move forward into the future.

Seems more and more like out recruiting misses could have been more recruits not being sure about Steele than Mack losing out. If Steele comes out firing next year look for a good class.


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Muskie
04-08-2018, 02:49 PM
Hoping this brings out the best in Elias (and Keonte, for that matter), the minutes now won't just be handed to either of them, but still hoping they earn lots of minutes. Two deep is looking pretty good right now:

QG
Paul
Naji
Kaiser
Rique

_________

Paul
Harden/Kennedy/Castlin
Castlin/Kennedy
James
Hankins.

Seems like Naji is the only guy without a true backup. Who do you think spells him the most at the 3? Assuming if James gets his conditioning up he could even play the three effectively in some matchups?


I wonder if Hankins will start over Tyrique?

XUGRAD80
04-08-2018, 02:52 PM
Getting 5th year guys for next year doesn't affect the future....we still have two open spots

The kid from Cuse will have to sit out a year

Yeah, I know that. What’s your point? Steele has already commented that he probably won’t fill all 13 scholarships because of problems keeping players happy with their playing time when you have so many kids in the roster.

I wonder if he plans to petition the NCAA for another year of elibility? It’s an Ivy League rule that kids can’t redshirt, even for injury, but not an NCAA rule.

xu82
04-08-2018, 03:08 PM
The transfer from Columbia probably heard we are the Harvard of the Midwest.

I think Steele is just showing off doing all this without a staff.


It looks like he shot better across the board (FG, 3 pointers and FT’s were 46%, 37.5% and 81%) as a Freshman, then tried to play hurt his second year. A more severe turf toe type injury would do that to your shooting, I suppose. Sat last year to correct with surgery.

Sounds like a great get!

DexterBailey84
04-08-2018, 03:28 PM
they're disappointed in Columbus..

Kyle Castlin commits to Xavier: Ohio State basketball misses out on transfer target (https://www.landof10.com/ohio-state/kyle-castlin-xavier-basketball-transfer-ohio-state)

xu82
04-08-2018, 03:31 PM
they're disappointed in Columbus..

Kyle Castlin commits to Xavier: Ohio State basketball misses out on transfer target (https://www.landof10.com/ohio-state/kyle-castlin-xavier-basketball-transfer-ohio-state)

Well, THAT just makes it even sweeter!

GIMMFD
04-08-2018, 03:32 PM
Steele wasted no time in getting this done, incredible. He really did hit the ground running in order to fill 2 spots, as long as we have a good season next year, I bet our 2019 class will be special, like the Naji and Scruggs class. Really excited for the future!!

XUGRAD80
04-08-2018, 03:46 PM
Here’s how you recruit a kid like Castlin......

He and Gates were AAU teammates and Gates left him tickets for the BE tourney in NY. He was able to watch Xavier practice prior to the tourney. Steele met with him this morning and an assistant coach met with his family. He hasn’t even visited the campus yet, plans to do that NEXT weekend.

Once again it shows that it’s about relationships, opportunities, exposure, and timing.

whopper
04-08-2018, 03:56 PM
Looking at the box from November Columbia lost 75-60. They played a NCAA tournament rotation, no walk-ons played at all. Castin had 10 pt, 6 Reb, 4 asst 1 turn over and was 2-3 from 3. Not bad
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore?gameId=400988413

bleedXblue
04-08-2018, 03:57 PM
Yeah, I know that. What’s your point? Steele has already commented that he probably won’t fill all 13 scholarships because of problems keeping players happy with their playing time when you have so many kids in the roster.

I wonder if he plans to petition the NCAA for another year of elibility? It’s an Ivy League rule that kids can’t redshirt, even for injury, but not an NCAA rule.

Steele has another 3 or 4 offers out there is my point. He's not stopping here. I think he adds at least 1 more. And then likely if he can get the right transfer that may have to sit out a year.

GoMuskies
04-08-2018, 03:58 PM
Looking at the box from November Columbia lost 75-60. They played a NCAA tournament rotation, no walk-ons played at all. Castin had 10 pt, 6 Reb, 4 asst 1 turn over and was 2-3 from 3. Not bad
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore?gameId=400988413


What's it like to only lose by 15 to Villanova?

whopper
04-08-2018, 04:26 PM
What's it like to only lose by 15 to Villanova?. Funny. We were a poor matchup for Villanova (in the second game they were Michigan good) and I believe we got their A game at Cintas. It is hard to believe that Creighton, Butler, St Johns and PC beat them(and PC almost twice as they had last shot before OT). This is not your father's Ivy League, I live in Conn and go to Yale games($10 senior ticket) and saw the Yale team that beat Baylor and lost to Duke by 6 2 years ago.

xukeith
04-08-2018, 05:05 PM
This Steele feller really has his shit together. A shooter and a trash talking big...2 for 2. Now getcha some assistants.
This "shooter" averaged 10 ppg at COLUMBIA!
He will not be a Burrell, Macura, or Bluiett. He has a 4.3 or 4.4 gpa. He is tall. he is here at X to play tough defense and maybe hit an open shot. He will fit the role of Abell and Bernard. Not bad and we need an older guard and an excited role player who desperately wants to win.
I wonder if Jake Walter will redshirt to get in better physical shape to provide a threat with Jones in fall of 2019?

xukeith
04-08-2018, 05:09 PM
Here’s how you recruit a kid like Castlin......

He and Gates were AAU teammates and Gates left him tickets for the BE tourney in NY. He was able to watch Xavier practice prior to the tourney. Steele met with him this morning and an assistant coach met with his family. He hasn’t even visited the campus yet, plans to do that NEXT weekend.

Once again it shows that it’s about relationships, opportunities, exposure, and timing.

I wonder if his friend Kaiser, gave the coaches this possibility.

xukeith
04-08-2018, 05:14 PM
I like this, in the past first year coaches had to reach for recruits in their first year. Now Steele can fill his roster out with some experience and have time to move forward into the future.

Seems more and more like out recruiting misses could have been more recruits not being sure about Steele than Mack losing out. If Steele comes out firing next year look for a good class.


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What stopped Steele and others from firing this past summer to get a class highly ranked? Maybe it was very close to 5 stars but lost out to big schools but now with this past season, X can now nab a better class. I think X will recruit ard two top freshman.

xu82
04-08-2018, 05:26 PM
What stopped Steele and others from firing this past summer to get a class highly ranked? Maybe it was very close to 5 stars but lost out to big schools but now with this past season, X can now nab a better class. I think X will recruit ard two top freshman.

Having a bad day? You’re crankier than usual. I’d LOVE to see you try to shoot with a severe case of turf toe. One bad enough that it required surgery. Really, I’d love that.

Olsingledigit
04-08-2018, 05:48 PM
Well, THAT just makes it even sweeter!

Amen to that.

xukeith
04-08-2018, 05:54 PM
Having a bad day? You’re crankier than usual. I’d LOVE to see you try to shoot with a severe case of turf toe. One bad enough that it required surgery. Really, I’d love that.

I agree with Rick Broening and asses this new get as a Malcolm Bernard or Reby Abell type player.
Nothing negative with that. Keeping it real.

Olsingledigit
04-08-2018, 05:56 PM
I like this, in the past first year coaches had to reach for recruits in their first year. Now Steele can fill his roster out with some experience and have time to move forward into the future.

Seems more and more like out recruiting misses could have been more recruits not being sure about Steele than Mack losing out. If Steele comes out firing next year look for a good class

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Don’t you mean more about whether Mack would leave?

xukeith
04-08-2018, 05:58 PM
Looks like X and Steele are putting together a class with great leadership and skill. Definitely a top 1-3 seed next year.

bleedXblue
04-08-2018, 06:08 PM
Having a bad day? You’re crankier than usual. I’d LOVE to see you try to shoot with a severe case of turf toe. One bad enough that it required surgery. Really, I’d love that.

He's just perpetually negative........

There aren't 5 star studs out there to be had at this point. This guys gives us experience, size and another shooter. If he can average 10-12 PPG for us next year and be sound defensively, that's huge.......

xu82
04-08-2018, 06:12 PM
This "shooter" averaged 10 ppg at COLUMBIA!
He will not be a Burrell, Macura, or Bluiett. He has a 4.3 or 4.4 gpa. He is tall. he is here at X to play tough defense and maybe hit an open shot. He will fit the role of Abell and Bernard. Not bad and we need an older guard and an excited role player who desperately wants to win.
I wonder if Jake Walter will redshirt to get in better physical shape to provide a threat with Jones in fall of 2019?

As a healthy freshman he shot 37.5% from 3 and 81% from the line. Trevon as a freshman shot 32.6% from 3 and 75% from the line. Those lines don’t move depending on what conference you play in. I’m NOT saying he’s better than Tre, but if healthy I bet he can shoot! Time will tell.

GIMMFD
04-08-2018, 07:13 PM
As a healthy freshman he shot 37.5% from 3 and 81% from the line. Trevon as a freshman shot 32.6% from 3 and 75% from the line. Those lines don’t move depending on what conference you play in. I’m NOT saying he’s better than Tre, but if healthy I bet he can shoot! Time will tell.

Exactly, he's gonna get looks and knock down shots with that type of percentage. Agreed, he's gonna be the Abel/Bernard type, but I think he'll be a better shooter than those two, we don't need him to set the world on fire with points, just come in, play some good defense, add some depth and minutes, and hit the shots he needs to hit when he's in. We needed more perimeter scoring, and this will help when guys like Q, Naji, and Scruggs drive and kick.

MITTENMUSKIE16
04-08-2018, 08:02 PM
Exactly, he's gonna get looks and knock down shots with that type of percentage. Agreed, he's gonna be the Abel/Bernard type, but I think he'll be a better shooter than those two, we don't need him to set the world on fire with points, just come in, play some good defense, add some depth and minutes, and hit the shots he needs to hit when he's in. We needed more perimeter scoring, and this will help when guys like Q, Naji, and Scruggs drive and kick.

FWIW, Mal shot 39% from three for X, on just over 3 attempts per game. And man, there were some big ones in there. If Castlin can replicate what Bernard did for us, from a shooting and occasional drive, defensive, and intangibles perspective, I'll be thrilled. Hoping he (and Harden and Keonte) will be the recipient of some very clean looks from three due to the driving ability of Q, Paul, and Naji.

ArizonaXUGrad
04-08-2018, 09:21 PM
I still think Harden will be better than people on here think. Kid has length and can shoot. Castlin is much needed depth but we won’t rely on him. Hankins will be a wait and see. He can shoot and pass but that was at the DII level. I don’t see him as DI talent.

I think 2-3 seed is a ceiling, I think 4-7 is a reality. I will take it after losing 4 seniors and a coach.


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MITTENMUSKIE16
04-08-2018, 09:29 PM
Agreed on Harden. Big believer in his abilities in the future. This will push him to compete, and bring out his best. Wish he could've redshirted last year.

GIMMFD
04-08-2018, 10:40 PM
FWIW, Mal shot 39% from three for X, on just over 3 attempts per game. And man, there were some big ones in there. If Castlin can replicate what Bernard did for us, from a shooting and occasional drive, defensive, and intangibles perspective, I'll be thrilled. Hoping he (and Harden and Keonte) will be the recipient of some very clean looks from three due to the driving ability of Q, Paul, and Naji.

Had no idea Bernard shot that well from deep, I do remember a couple huge 3's, but man I guess he was sneaky good at hitting that shot. But the rest of the point remains, just play defense, shoot well, and be a positive presence in the locker room. We're a bit older next year, with a lot of experience coming back and that should help.


I still think Harden will be better than people on here think. Kid has length and can shoot. Castlin is much needed depth but we won’t rely on him. Hankins will be a wait and see. He can shoot and pass but that was at the DII level. I don’t see him as DI talent.

I think 2-3 seed is a ceiling, I think 4-7 is a reality. I will take it after losing 4 seniors and a coach.


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Agreed, we haven't seen much of Harden, and even though he could have red shirted, it was still good to log around 50 minutes of experience in my opinion. He really could shoot in high school, and does have great length. An off-season of working out, and getting into a good routine may be great for him, I'd love if Harden took a big step up and logged consistent minutes this year. As for Hankins, he was getting D1 looks in high school before he broke his foot I believe which caused schools to back off on him, he got interest from Michigan State and Texas Tech, and had a solid game against Michigan State. I trust our staff into evaluating talent, obviously highlight tapes are supposed to look good, but he does look like he possesses a skill set required to do alright at this level.

A 2-3 seed would be absolutely amazing, as it means we were competing like hell this next year coming up, but a 4-7 wouldn't upset me at all. It's going to be a transition year, and making the tournament should be the biggest goal, and seeing where things go from there. It'll be a little more clear once all of the out of conference match-ups are set, and we see who Villanova loses, but with the Big East losing so much talent this year, I think we have a good shot to finish in the top 4 of the conference. Gotta love how much better our "rebuilding" years are in this conference opposed to the A10

sirthought
04-08-2018, 11:13 PM
Castlin looks good to go. I bet he gets a lot of minutes. Might even start if Steele wants to leave Scruggs as a sixth man to run point. We'll see if he can pick up the system quickly.

I love the look of his shooting motion. Almost perfect jumper. He seems to drive with confidence. Great opportunity with this kid.

This highlight reel shows a player that makes smart passes, blocks out for putbacks, and hits his shots even with a hand in his face.

Now if you look at the scores on this reel, you'll see his team was not very good, which might partially be on him, but a lot of these teams are higher level than Ivy league and Castlin doesn't act intimidated. Love the drive he makes on Kentucky at 1 minute in.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Krz3JxNqAFU

Muskie
04-09-2018, 08:29 AM
Bernard played out of necessity. When he was recruited there’s no way the staff wanted him logging all those minutes. I see Castlin as a 15-20 min guy.


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muskiefan82
04-09-2018, 08:36 AM
During the video I distinctly saw him jump off of one foot several times. This is good.

Xavier
04-09-2018, 09:29 AM
I still think Harden will be better than people on here think. Kid has length and can shoot. Castlin is much needed depth but we won’t rely on him. Hankins will be a wait and see. He can shoot and pass but that was at the DII level. I don’t see him as DI talent.

I think 2-3 seed is a ceiling, I think 4-7 is a reality. I will take it after losing 4 seniors and a coach.




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Agreed on Harden. I Think he will be a dependable rotation guy for sure next season.

As for seed, just keep in mind Xavier has been a 3 seed or better 4 times. It’s not exactly common. I still think 6/7 seed is ceiling with reality being 8-11. Even with Mack I’d say a top 3 seed was out of the question. New coach with losing 4 seniors, with losing top three scoring options. And that is understating the value of what the team is losing, IMO.

IM4X
04-09-2018, 09:55 AM
If Castlin becomes the next Bernard, count me as someone who is ecstatic Steele grabbed him.

I dont believe there has ever been a transfer at X who was better at motivating his teammates when it counted most... who showed more effort... or who played up to his talent potential during the NCAA tournament.

Bernard is my man. The guy gave everything he had on the court at X and he was simply a wonderfully positive force.

xudash
04-09-2018, 11:15 AM
If Castlin becomes the next Bernard, count me as someone who is ecstatic Steele grabbed him.

I dont believe there has ever been a transfer at X who was better at motivating his teammates when it counted most... who showed more effort... or who played up to his talent potential during the NCAA tournament.

Bernard is my man. The guy gave everything he had on the court at X and he was simply a wonderfully positive force.

Here. Here.

BTW, Castlin's highlights included action against Nova, Kentucky and Kansas State. And he wasn't shrinking from any of that as far as the video showed.

Masterofreality
04-09-2018, 11:48 AM
During the video I distinctly saw him jump off of one foot several times. This is good.

That will never NOT be funny. NEVER!

Masterofreality
04-09-2018, 11:52 AM
If Castlin becomes the next Bernard, count me as someone who is ecstatic Steele grabbed him.

I dont believe there has ever been a transfer at X who was better at motivating his teammates when it counted most... who showed more effort... or who played up to his talent potential during the NCAA tournament.

Bernard is my man. The guy gave everything he had on the court at X and he was simply a wonderfully positive force.

Mal endeared himself to me more than any other 1 year X transfer ever. Leadership, smarts and great play was off the charts. His game vs Arizona- hitting big shots, putting the team on his back when we were down and finally getting the last big rebound was a microcosm of what he did for that team all year. All that from a guy from a terrible Florida A&M program. Man, if Castlin can give us that, I'll be over the top!

kellernr
04-09-2018, 12:26 PM
Now does Steele look for a transfer that will sit out next year and leave 1 open scholarship or leave both open?

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IM4X
04-09-2018, 01:15 PM
Mal endeared himself to me more than any other 1 year X transfer ever. Leadership, smarts and great play was off the charts. His game vs Arizona- hitting big shots, putting the team on his back when we were down and finally getting the last big rebound was a microcosm of what he did for that team all year. All that from a guy from a terrible Florida A&M program. Man, if Castlin can give us that, I'll be over the top!

Yes- exactly!

We need another Bernard on the team... or at least an assistant like him on the team.

I almost shed a tear watching him play during that game. It brought me back to the scrappy Walker/ Kimbroug days when our team never gave up. Old school X teams who did whatever it took to win.

He was just so jacked and so determined not to let his team lose to Arizona and Seanboy that he (as you pointed out) started to carry the team on his back and make the shots others weren't making and grabbing loose balls that he had any chance of getting to - even one that was half way out of bounds. He played out of his mind and his teammates all got the message.

Malcolm was the leader X desperately needed that year and as we all are well aware, such a key reason that X team got to the tournament and then played so well during their run. Too bad he wasn't eligible for another year... We could have used him against FSU.

If Steele decided to make Bernard part of his staff , I would be through the roof. Even without a lick of paid coaching experience, he has proven he knows how to push the right buttons to get players to give everything they've got.

GoMuskies
04-09-2018, 03:05 PM
It's a short drive up I-75....

https://www.aseaofblue.com/2018/4/9/17216348/sacha-killeya-jones-to-transfer-from-kentucky-wildcats-basketball

GoMuskies
04-09-2018, 03:14 PM
Hadn't seen this elsewhere. The Moyer kid from Syracuse is visiting Xavier this weekend.

https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/syracuse-transfer-matt-moyer-sets-to-visit-dates

xu82
04-09-2018, 04:39 PM
Go, you’re getting my hopes up! I was bummed originally, but pretty fired up now. The game begins with recruiting, and Steele is the MAN when it comes to recruiting. Now, recruit the rest of a great staff!

GIMMFD
04-09-2018, 05:08 PM
Go, you’re getting my hopes up! I was bummed originally, but pretty fired up now. The game begins with recruiting, and Steele is the MAN when it comes to recruiting. Now, recruit the rest of a great staff!

He truly is hitting the ground running tying up loose ends we had on our roster right now, does the man sleep?? It's a good sign to see how hungry he is, and willing to prove X made the right choice. So far, the Steele era is looking very promising, granted we haven't seen him coach a game, but he's getting off to a good start to put X in a position to thrive. It starts with recruiting, and we've known how good Steele is at that for years. He's already made a splash with Jonas Hayes who had a 5 star guard committed to Georgia in the 2019 class, wonder if that'll garner some interest for X now.

whopper
04-09-2018, 07:43 PM
Hadn't seen this elsewhere. The Moyer kid from Syracuse is visiting Xavier this weekend.

https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/news/syracuse-transfer-matt-moyer-sets-to-visit-datesHer boyfriend's roommate for some reason. I asked her "was the tall guy from Syracuse" and she said "yeah, now I remember". Kind of funny as she senses that from 700 miles away I am stalking and even say Kyle Castin play at Yale (looked good..this is not your father's Ivy League)

kellernr
04-09-2018, 08:00 PM
Not sure how to update the thread title. Whoever's been updating it needs to change it to 2 remain scholarships

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GIMMFD
04-09-2018, 08:19 PM
Her boyfriend's roommate for some reason. I asked her "was the tall guy from Syracuse" and she said "yeah, now I remember". Kind of funny as she senses that from 700 miles away I am stalking and even say Kyle Castin play at Yale (looked good..this is not your father's Ivy League)

Haha that's hilarious that she texted you about it, good to hear Nat and Moyer are on campus, will be interesting to see how things shake up for these last 2 spots.

whopper
04-09-2018, 08:47 PM
Haha that's hilarious that she texted you about it, good to hear Nat and Moyer are on campus, will be interesting to see how things shake up for these last 2 spots. my spell check changed Naj to Nat so it was Naj, Quentin and Moyer. As soon as she said "a tall guy" I asked "from Syracuse?" and she said "yes" so I assumed Moyer. As a recently retired 62 year old I am bored and obsessed with X basketball and college in general. I started playing 50+ basketball last month and have been missing bunnies and actually dove on the ball like JP today as I was so mad and it wasn't that painful. Everyone was shocked

xu82
04-09-2018, 08:59 PM
my spell check changed Naj to Nat so it was Naj, Quentin and Moyer. As soon as she said "a tall guy" I asked "from Syracuse?" and she said "yes" so I assumed Moyer. As a recently retired 62 year old I am bored and obsessed with X basketball and college in general. I started playing 50+ basketball last month and have been missing bunnies and actually dove on the ball like JP today as I was so mad and it wasn't that painful. Everyone was shocked

Any video? I’d pay a reasonable fee.

GoMuskies
04-09-2018, 09:11 PM
According to the article, Moyer won't be at Xavier until Friday.

Muskeagle
04-09-2018, 10:26 PM
According to the article, Moyer won't be at Xavier until Friday.

Wonder if maybe she mixed up the two New York schools and the one she saw was Castlin.

JTG
04-09-2018, 10:54 PM
Wonder if maybe she mixed up the two New York schools and the one she saw was Castlin.

He hasn't been to X yet either.

bobbiemcgee
04-10-2018, 04:14 AM
We need a Rowsey/Howard/ Brunson/ type shooter or two.

xu95
04-10-2018, 09:18 AM
When I went to Xavier I assumed every tall kid hanging with basketball players was a recruit on a visit.

xu95

Lloyd Braun
04-11-2018, 08:06 PM
Ryan Welage commits. Damn, Travis! Damn...

Edit: I just saw he graduated and is immediately eligible. That’s incredibly huge.

Lloyd Braun
04-11-2018, 08:08 PM
I saw this (https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/2018/04/04/after-3-years-out-west-greensburgs-ryan-welage-looking-transfer-back-east/485134002/) earlier in this thread or elsewhere but it’s a good refresher about him.

XUGRAD80
04-11-2018, 08:17 PM
Hot Da**! Steele is getting done and like right now! Love this pickup!

Welcome Ryan! Looking forward to seeing you and others next year!

whopper
04-11-2018, 08:18 PM
says may be available next year..if not a Kaiser Gates replacement. Intriguing

XUGRAD80
04-11-2018, 08:39 PM
says may be available next year..if not a Kaiser Gates replacement. Intriguing

He plans to graduate this summer, so should be eligible as a grad.

Averaged 18.1 for SJSU, 4th in league. Leading 3 point shooter in team’s history and almost 90% from the line. 6’9” and on the video I saw he can shoot, drive, and ha doe the bell. Defense? Who knows? But with almost 1300 points in 3 years he is a proven scorer.

This team has gotten so much better in the last 2 weeks it’s incredible! May take them some time to jell and mix in 6 new players, but it should be fun to see how it all plays out. If all of these transfers pan out, and a couple of the freshman work out, this team will be deep.

kellernr
04-11-2018, 08:46 PM
He plans to graduate this summer, so should be eligible as a grad.

Averaged 18.1 for SJSU, 4th in league. Leading 3 point shooter in team’s history and almost 90% from the line. 6’9” and on the video I saw he can shoot, drive, and ha doe the bell. Defense? Who knows? But with almost 1300 points in 3 years he is a proven scorer.

This team has gotten so much better in the last 2 weeks it’s incredible! May take them some time to jell and mix in 6 new players, but it should be fun to see how it all plays out. If all of these transfers pan out, and a couple of the freshman work out, this team will be deep.Hell . Might be 7 new players. Might as well bring in a 4th grad transfer

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GIMMFD
04-11-2018, 08:50 PM
Holy hot damn Travis Steele, keep the damn train rolling. He addressed everything we needed in what? Like 2 weeks of becoming our head coach?? He really wasn't kidding about hitting the recruiting trail hard, this is huge. Our roster looks a lot better from where we were a few weeks ago, as long as everybody can mesh and co-exist. Gives Walter time to get comfortable and grow and learn, don't need immediate contributions from any of the freshman, this is good. Way to freaking go Travis Steele, he sure as hell knows how to get people excited.

whopper
04-11-2018, 08:54 PM
Great job... It's almost too quick as I am still mourning the FSU game and have a tear over "Farewell Kanter, Macura, O'Mara, Bluiett" in bannersonthe parkway. I need time to grieve but I still have my Xavier Basketball hoodie(a rarity in Conn) and my Number 1 T-shirt bought half price at bookstore. Now I am excited
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JTG
04-11-2018, 08:57 PM
3 targets, 3 hits. If Steele is half the coach as he is recruiter, we'll be dancing, maybe late next March.

MHettel
04-11-2018, 09:16 PM
Oh, we’re going to be good.

This is exactly what we needed. 3 proven veteran players to go along with the younger core guys.

Starting to wonder if Gates will start. This Welage kid looks like a starter and can stretch the floor.

I had no issue with losing Mack, other than the collateral damage, which appears to have been avoided alltogether

bobbiemcgee
04-11-2018, 09:31 PM
Hot Da**! Steele is getting done and like right now! Love this pickup!

Welcome Ryan! Looking forward to seeing you and others next year!

Scored 19 against UNLV and 17 against St. Mary's. Sweet.

http://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/tag/ryan-welage/

XUGRAD80
04-11-2018, 09:36 PM
Scored 19 against UNLV and 17 against St. Mary's. Sweet.

Scored in double figures in all but 4 games. High game of 37! Averaged in double figures all 3years and each year was higher than the previous.

In fact, ALL 3 of the transfer players were double digit average scorers last year.

xu82
04-11-2018, 09:55 PM
This is awesome stuff! I am seriously loving this!

chico
04-11-2018, 09:57 PM
That is a huge get. Welcome to Xavier, Ryan!

It's starting to become apparent which coach was doing most of the legwork when it came to bringing in recruits.

MITTENMUSKIE16
04-11-2018, 10:00 PM
As it currently stands, we have 11 scholarship guys and that doesn't include Walter who I'm assuming will take a redshirt... we can't offer playing time to satisfy all 11, can we? I hope we can, lol.

QG ---- Paul
Paul ---- Harden/Kennedy/Castlin
Naji ---- Welage/Castlin
Kaiser ---- James/Welage
Rique ---- Hankins


That's an unknown 2 deep, but what seems to be extremely talented 2 deep...

drudy23
04-11-2018, 10:00 PM
Can any of these guys play defense?

MITTENMUSKIE16
04-11-2018, 10:03 PM
Can any of these guys play defense?

Castlin is supposed to be pretty adept at defense. Him plus the starting 5's defensive capabilities should more than suffice.

GreatWhiteNorth
04-11-2018, 10:07 PM
WOW! Steele is wasting absolutely no time. This is breath-taking and exciting to see. This latest addition Ryan can really shoot and can even start next year. He needs to put on maybe 10-15 lbs. this summer. Is our coach done yet, or is there more to come?

xukeith
04-11-2018, 10:15 PM
WOW! Steele is wasting absolutely no time. This is breath-taking and exciting to see. This latest addition Ryan can really shoot and can even start next year. He needs to put on maybe 10-15 lbs. this summer. Is our coach done yet, or is there more to come?
Maybe with these 3 one year transfers, X can get the Syracuse transfer and he will sit out a year.
This looks like a Gonzaga type of reloading. Nice job Steele. Hope chemistry is good with returning players.

XUGRAD80
04-11-2018, 10:15 PM
Can any of these guys play defense?

As long as they can play defense well as a TEAM, they will be all right. Steele is a big proponent of the pack line, but has talked more about defense than anything else so far. As I said before, it may take some time for all these new pieces to understand where they are supposed to be when playing that defense, and it will take some time until they get to a point where they aren’t thinking and are just reacting. They will probably be a little ragged in the beginning and may struggle early in the year. But in the videos I’ve seen all of the transfers look like they are pretty mobile. None of the players that they are replacing were known for their lateral quickness or foot speed. So I am hopeful that Xavier will see improvement in the defense as the year goes on.

GIMMFD
04-11-2018, 10:46 PM
As long as they can play defense well as a TEAM, they will be all right. Steele is a big proponent of the pack line, but has talked more about defense than anything else so far. As I said before, it may take some time for all these new pieces to understand where they are supposed to be when playing that defense, and it will take some time until they get to a point where they aren’t thinking and are just reacting. They will probably be a little ragged in the beginning and may struggle early in the year. But in the videos I’ve seen all of the transfers look like they are pretty mobile. None of the players that they are replacing were known for their lateral quickness or foot speed. So I am hopeful that Xavier will see improvement in the defense as the year goes on.

I definitely think we're prone to be better defensively anyways with the guys we had regardless, we have a lot of length and athleticism, good lateral foot-speed from Scruggs and Naji with a year under their belts. Castlin is supposed to be pretty good defensively, so hopefully he can take up an Abel type of role and play great defense and hit shots when counted on, Welage looks like he's going to be a good scorer, if he's on the court with Tyrique and Naji it could help out immensely even if he's not the best defensively. This is good stuff, Steele really went out and made a splash, he's setting himself up to have a successful first season as a head coach. Our roster is looking pretty good now, as we have a shooter, a couple of bigs, and a good guard as well, 2 deep at every position is not only important for games, but also when these guys go up against each other in practice, as it can't do anything except help. Exciting times on the horizon.

XUGRAD80
04-12-2018, 07:05 AM
Depth allows them to play harder, for a longer period of time, and when a player goes out there is another 0layer of similar talent to take their place. It can also raises the intensity at practice, which can play big dividends in the development of the younger players. The only downside is the potential for players to get upset about limited playing time. This may actually hurt Xavier when it comes to recruiting for the 2019 class. Too many players want to be “the man” and want to play significant minutes right from the start. For some, it’s a real awakening when they are told they will have to earn those minutes and that they won’t just be given them. I look forward to seeing how Coach Steele manages all of these players, especially the freshman coming in. If he can figure out a way to keep everyone happy and to get everyone playing together and supporting each other, it could be great. I would hope that all of the transfer players are mature enough to understand what is going to be asked of them, and just what the potential of this team may be if they can check their own egos. But you never know for sure how they, or the freshman, or even the returning players are going to react until they are actually put into that situation.

bleedXblue
04-12-2018, 08:06 AM
Maybe with these 3 one year transfers, X can get the Syracuse transfer and he will sit out a year.
This looks like a Gonzaga type of reloading. Nice job Steele. Hope chemistry is good with returning players.

Jesus dude

We are Xavier.

F Gonzaga

webxu
04-12-2018, 08:27 AM
Xavier going with a different 1 and done strategy..

muskiefan82
04-12-2018, 09:03 AM
It does have the benefit of film on the players at the college level against college competition.

paulxu
04-12-2018, 09:08 AM
Also, the one year grad transfers aren't clogging up the pipeline as you recruit freshmen for the following year.

GoMuskies
04-12-2018, 10:03 AM
I guess we shouldn't have let MaCio Teague out of Cincinnati in the first place. After two good years at UNCA, looks like he may want back in. We're apparently head to head with Chris Mack on this recruitment (Ohio State, too).

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/high-school/ohio-high-school/2018/04/11/ex-walnut-hills-star-macio-teague-receives-release-transfer-per-report/508168002/

SemajParlor
04-12-2018, 10:53 AM
I wouldn't mind if one of these incoming Fresh redshirts. Thought it was strange Harden didn't last year.

BandAid
04-12-2018, 11:31 AM
Aren’t we out of scholarships for next year now?

kellernr
04-12-2018, 11:48 AM
Aren’t we out of scholarships for next year now?Still got 1 I think.

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GoMuskies
04-12-2018, 11:49 AM
6 returning scholarship players + 3 grad transfers + 3 incoming freshmen = 12. So yes, there is one. Sounds like we want it to be either Moyer or Teague.

kellernr
04-12-2018, 12:18 PM
6 returning scholarship players + 3 grad transfers + 3 incoming freshmen = 12. So yes, there is one. Sounds like we want it to be either Moyer or Teague.Sounds like us and UofL are the leaders for Teague. If prefer him just because Mack is interested. Don't want to see him win at anything

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BandAid
04-12-2018, 12:22 PM
Teague has a better track record in college, so he’d be my pick

IM4X
04-12-2018, 01:11 PM
Sounds like us and UofL are the leaders for Teague. If prefer him just because Mack is interested. Don't want to see him win at anything

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Either player looks to be a good pick up.

To your point about Teague though: It sure would be sweet to show the Louiseville administration and fans that the three coaches they took from us can't out-recruit the one coach who stayed behind.

Goodness that would be a great feeling for Xavier Nation, For Steele...and what's better is that it would make all those folks (and coaches) down in Louisville feel a little sick in their stomachs.

IM4X
04-12-2018, 01:12 PM
Plus, if I were a prospect deciding between a university that does things the right way and is a constant winner like X and another school that is trouble financially and still in trouble with the NCAA and FBI, there isn't even a doubt where I'm headed.

The FBI just introduced a new character to the Louisville basketball scandal
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.courier-journal.com/amp/505741002

muskiefan82
04-12-2018, 01:21 PM
If Mr. Teague decides he wants to go to Lewisville then I may have to question whether or not Walnut Hills really is the academic powerhouse I thought it was. (and I went there)

Muskie
04-12-2018, 01:42 PM
Moyer is no longer visiting X, so I don't think it's a Teague or Moyer discussion any longer.

XUOWNSUC
04-12-2018, 01:45 PM
I wouldn't want to go to Loserville - you could be the next Damien Lee or Trey Lewis.

MHettel
04-12-2018, 01:50 PM
I don't normally like when we take on "traditional" transfers. I don't like the fact that we have to use up 3 years of roster space for 2 years of eligible playing time. A transfer with 3 years remaining takes up 4 years of eligible;e roster space, which is a little better. A guy with one year left will consume 2 years of roster space. I prefer that we go after.

An incoming redshirt freshman will consume 5 years of roster space, while playing for 4. It's all about this ratio.

In the case of Teague, especially, I'd totally push hard for him. At this juncture, we've got an open scholarship that would otherwise go unused. So we'd have a "dead" year of roster space anyway. Not sure I feel the same way about the kid from Syracuse. Teague seems very good and productive at mid-major type school, where the 'Cuse kid seems like he may be a bit over his head in the ACC.

I do LOVE the grad transfer approach. I think we are WAY out in front of the rest of the NCAA when it comes to exploiting this transfer rule. Other teams will figure this out and we will have more trouble landing these guys in the future.

If the proposed changes come for the "traditional" transfer players so they can be immediately eligible, it will backfire. It's essentially free agency. Some schools will just feed off of the transfer market and wont even recruit the HS ranks. What would stop a team from just bringing in 8-9 transfers each year? Just grab the best players off of bad teams. Guys that clearly are better than their team and probably could have played at a higher level. Build a new roster every 2-3 years.

Lloyd Braun
04-12-2018, 02:02 PM
Moyer is no longer visiting X, so I don't think it's a Teague or Moyer discussion any longer.

When did this occur? As of yesterday he was taking an official this weekend.

xu95
04-12-2018, 02:28 PM
When did this occur? As of yesterday he was taking an official this weekend.

Yesterday. It sounds like Travis told him we were no longer interested.

xu95

Lloyd Braun
04-12-2018, 02:55 PM
Yesterday. It sounds like Travis told him we were no longer interested.

xu95

Wonder if he was not expecting all 3 grad transfers to be on board and wants an open scholly. Or he thinks teague/other will join.... or both.

ArizonaXUGrad
04-12-2018, 02:57 PM
Moyer isn’t that great. Welage looks like he can shoot.

MaCio Teague looks great. I would think if we get him that one of Harden/Kennedy transfers after this upcoming year. That said, I like this guy.


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xu95
04-12-2018, 03:05 PM
Wonder if he was not expecting all 3 grad transfers to be on board and wants an open scholly. Or he thinks teague/other will join.... or both.

He only has one open scholarship. He must feel pretty good that he can get either Teague or Hill. Or he is just going to bank one like Mack did a lot.

xu95

Masterofreality
04-12-2018, 03:07 PM
Would. Love. Teague.

JTG
04-12-2018, 04:24 PM
Moyer is no longer visiting X, so I don't think it's a Teague or Moyer discussion any longer.

Moyer picked somewhere else, or figured Teague was going to take it ?

Muskie
04-12-2018, 04:47 PM
Moyer picked somewhere else, or figured Teague was going to take it ?

I think the Staff wants to hold the Scholarship or possibly bank it at this point.

GIMMFD
04-12-2018, 05:01 PM
Would. Love. Teague.

Agreed, Cincinnati native, and Loserville is interested and like others said I'd love to give them a big "fuck you" by filling out our roster. Averages 16.7 ppg, while shooting 42% from the 3?? Sign me up, not to mention UNC-Asheville is a pretty decent team to boot.

sirthought
04-12-2018, 05:07 PM
Nothing against the guys being discussed here, but it might be worthwhile to look at more of the big men transfers. Give the kid a year to work within XU's system in practice and strength training. Bigs seem so difficult to find and they almost always need more time to develop.

Just food for thought. I have not looked over available transfers to see who might be a candidate and I'm sure they are desirable targets if any potential is there.

It's hard to say whether Walter will take off, despite everyone here saying he should sit a year. Sometimes even limited experiences in games can push a player to want to improve faster. But a transfer will have already tasted playing time and will be hoping to start new with a stronger focus.

bobbiemcgee
04-12-2018, 06:39 PM
Agreed, Cincinnati native, and Loserville is interested and like others said I'd love to give them a big "fuck you" by filling out our roster. Averages 16.7 ppg, while shooting 42% from the 3?? Sign me up, not to mention UNC-Asheville is a pretty decent team to boot.

With all the problems at L'Ville, not sure why they would still be in the picture. Does he want to play in the Dance?

GIMMFD
04-12-2018, 08:17 PM
With all the problems at L'Ville, not sure why they would still be in the picture. Does he want to play in the Dance?

My only guess would be someone knowing they'd be the man at a program that gets a lot of TV exposure, thus getting him exposure to NBA scouts?? I'm not really sure, that's all I can really come up with

XUGRAD80
04-12-2018, 08:56 PM
With all the problems at L'Ville, not sure why they would still be in the picture. Does he want to play in the Dance?

Might be a couple of years before the FBI and the NCAA conclude the investigations and UL faces any sanctions. He could be out of there before that ever happens. Probably more of a concern for those looking at coming in as a freshman.

Don’t know a thing about their roster, but I don’t think that they have any recruits currently signed for next year. So probably more opportunity for major minutes there, than at X. While I would think that X has more opportunity to compete for conference and post season championships than what UL can presently offer.

X Factor
04-12-2018, 09:14 PM
Might be a couple of years before the FBI and the NCAA conclude the investigations and UL faces any sanctions. He could be out of there before that ever happens. Probably more of a concern for those looking at coming in as a freshman.

Don’t know a thing about their roster, but I don’t think that they have any recruits currently signed for next year. So probably more opportunity for major minutes there, than at X. While I would think that X has more opportunity to compete for conference and post season championships than what UL can presently offer.

MaCio would have to sit out next year as a transfer. Minutes next year won't matter.

XUGRAD80
04-12-2018, 09:36 PM
MaCio would have to sit out next year as a transfer. Minutes next year won't matter.

I was thinking that by the time he is eligible that their roster may be pretty thin. Thinking it may be hard to get top freshman recruits to sign on when the long term future is such an unknown. That would almost guarantee him the opportunity to be a “go to” scorer there. Not the same opportunity at X where he would be more of a role player most likely.

Olsingledigit
04-12-2018, 10:16 PM
Moyer is no longer visiting X, so I don't think it's a Teague or Moyer discussion any longer.

Out of curiosity what caused Moyer to cancel?

dc_x
04-13-2018, 06:56 AM
Out of curiosity what caused Moyer to cancel?

Welage

xu95
04-13-2018, 08:20 AM
Dru Hill of Evansville will be making an official visit next weekend. I think Steele would really like to land either him or Teague.

xu95

XUBison
04-13-2018, 08:26 AM
Welage

Isn’t Welage playing next year, while Moyer would have to sit until 19/20? Why would one impact the other?

XU 87
04-13-2018, 08:28 AM
Isn’t Welage playing next year, while Moyer would have to sit until 19/20? Why would one impact the other?

X has only one scholarship left and wants to use it for someone other than Moyer (and presumably someone better).

xukeith
04-13-2018, 09:00 AM
X has only one scholarship left and wants to use it for someone other than Moyer (and presumably someone better).
oops! Big boo boo on my part. Disregard my post

xnatic03
04-13-2018, 09:02 AM
Better? C'mon. X wants to land not the top 4 player but a top 3 player? Moyer would not play until 2019-2020 so these recent grad transfers are no competition.
Hope they can get the Syracuse transfer unless Moyer is the same player.

Moyer IS the Syracuse player. They have the ability to get Teague or the kid from Evansville with the last scholarship, which I think would be better for them.

xukeith
04-13-2018, 09:06 AM
Moyer IS the Syracuse player. They have the ability to get Teague or the kid from Evansville with the last scholarship, which I think would be better for them.

Just curious but what makes Teague or Evansville transfer "better" than Moyer?

throwbackmuskie
04-13-2018, 09:12 AM
Just curious but what makes Teague or Evansville transfer "better" than Moyer?

unlike Moyer, they are not coming off an injury for one.

muskiefan82
04-13-2018, 09:41 AM
Just curious but what makes Teague or Evansville transfer "better" than Moyer?

That Coach Steele thinks so. That is enough for me.

BandAid
04-13-2018, 11:38 AM
I'm jut trying to clarify, because I've seen mentions of a "Dru Hill from Evansville":

Dru Smith is the transfer target from Evansville.
MaCio Teague is the transfer target from UNC Asheville.
Dru Hill is an R&B group from Baltimore, Maryland.
Drew Hill was a football player from Georgia who played for the LA Rams and Houston Oilers. He died in 2011.

Is this correct?

xu95
04-13-2018, 12:17 PM
Yes sorry. Dru smith.

xu95

ArizonaXUGrad
04-13-2018, 12:43 PM
Moyer not coming has nothing to do with Welage. I have seen Moyer and losing out on him is no big thing. I would rather get Teague or stash the scholarship.


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xu95
04-13-2018, 01:05 PM
Moyer not coming has nothing to do with Welage. I have seen Moyer and losing out on him is no big thing. I would rather get Teague or stash the scholarship.


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It kind of does. If Welage wasn't coming and we had two available ships, Travis might still be interested in him. So it isn't Welage in particular, but it is because he took the scholarship that Travis might have allowed Moyer to have.

xu95

webxu
04-13-2018, 01:14 PM
I'm jut trying to clarify, because I've seen mentions of a "Dru Hill from Evansville":

Dru Smith is the transfer target from Evansville.
MaCio Teague is the transfer target from UNC Asheville.
Dru Hill is an R&B group from Baltimore, Maryland.
Drew Hill was a football player from Georgia who played for the LA Rams and Houston Oilers. He died in 2011.

Is this correct?

Dru Hill, featuring the one and only Sisqo.. that thong thong thong...

ArizonaXUGrad
04-13-2018, 01:41 PM
Just watched some YouTube on smith and Teague. I like Teague better, Smith shot looks a tad slow.


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X Factor
04-13-2018, 02:35 PM
Just watched some YouTube on smith and Teague. I like Teague better, Smith shot looks a tad slow.


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I'd take either one in a heartbeat, but I might be leaning towards Dru Smith. He was just so efficient this year. I've also read he's an elite defender.

Don't get me wrong, Teague is a stud and I'd love to him too.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqMS1qLGjEE

X Factor
04-13-2018, 02:36 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nExd0qtfHrE

Masterofreality
04-13-2018, 03:04 PM
Sounds like Coach Dude is trying to steal a Walnut Hills HS Cincinnati recruit from a Cincinnati located school. Get F-ed.

sirthought
04-13-2018, 07:07 PM
Wow, Teague seems sort of like a shorter version Bluiett. I thought Smith reminded me of James Harden. He looks kind of slow in a way, but he's so smooth you just can't handle that drive and step back. Personally, I would enjoy seeing more of that on the court.

MHettel
04-13-2018, 08:13 PM
Wow, Teague seems sort of like a shorter version Bluiett. I thought Smith reminded me of James Harden. He looks kind of slow in a way, but he's so smooth you just can't handle that drive and step back. Personally, I would enjoy seeing more of that on the court.

Gotta have at least one guy on the court that can get his own shot at the end of the clock. I’d take that for sure

bleedXblue
04-13-2018, 08:31 PM
Me want him....really bad to be wearing a Xavier uni

X Factor
04-13-2018, 08:58 PM
Me want him....really bad to be wearing a Xavier uni

Which one? I'd take either one for sure. Tough call. Dru Smith is so efficient and is an elite defender. MaCio is excellent in his own right. Both have good size.

Hopefully X can pull one of them in. Would be a very big addition.

bleedXblue
04-14-2018, 08:28 AM
Which one? I'd take either one for sure. Tough call. Dru Smith is so efficient and is an elite defender. MaCio is excellent in his own right. Both have good size.

Hopefully X can pull one of them in. Would be a very big addition.

Teague more so, but would take either of course

xukeith
04-14-2018, 01:53 PM
Teague more so, but would take either of course

Teague "looks" better and a step quicker. Both shoot well.
Teague wins n my book. But either is a win-win.

IM4X
04-14-2018, 04:31 PM
Me want him....really bad to be wearing a Xavier uni

Jane want him too.

xukeith
04-14-2018, 04:36 PM
Not surprisingly, 5 star recruits get LOTS of promises to play multiple positions per this article in December on X's future Matthew.

http://www.zagsblog.com/2017/12/22/class-2019-star-matthew-hurt-says-seven-schools-working-hardest/

XUGRAD80
04-14-2018, 05:13 PM
Not surprisingly, 5 star recruits get LOTS of promises to play multiple positions per this article in December on X's future Matthew.

http://www.zagsblog.com/2017/12/22/class-2019-star-matthew-hurt-says-seven-schools-working-hardest/

“X’s future Matthew”? Don’t know what you mean by that. Xavier is never even mentioned in the article, and I doubt that X has real plans to recruit one and dones, which is his stated objective in the article. Steele may well visit with him, but I think that if he tells Steele he plans to leave after his freshman year, it will probably be no deal. Steele has gone after grad transfers this year, which are also one and done’s. However, I think this more out of need and a realization that the incoming freshman may not be quite ready to play at a BE level, next year. Nonetheless, getting Hurt to come to X is an extreme long shot, even if he wasn’t a self proclaimed one and done recruit.

ArizonaXUGrad
04-14-2018, 07:48 PM
Without a doubt Hurt’s relationship with Ben Johnson is at least a part of us hiring him.

All that said, Hayes is the get here. Kids can flat out ball down there. He is not just a good recruiter there but also has a good reputation developing players. That was a steal for Steele.


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XUBison
04-14-2018, 08:20 PM
“X’s future Matthew”? Don’t know what you mean by that. Xavier is never even mentioned in the article, and I doubt that X has real plans to recruit one and dones, which is his stated objective.

Ummm... Try Anthony Davis and Kobe Simmons, off the top of my head. Can’t imagine X wouldn’t at least try to get into the mix for Hurt with Ben Johnson now on staff. They’d be stupid not to, even if it goes nowhere.

D-West & PO-Z
04-14-2018, 08:33 PM
I wouldn't mind if one of these incoming Fresh redshirts. Thought it was strange Harden didn't last year.

Asked this in another thread. Can anyone remember a player who X redshirted in any recent memory? Not for medical reasons like Ed. I dont think Walters will redshirt. I think X finds value in that early paying time in games these guys get ad throughout the year in blow outs. Just in case they are actually needed due to injury.

Lloyd Braun
04-14-2018, 08:37 PM
Asked this in another thread. Can anyone remember a player who X redshirted in any recent memory? Not for medical reasons like Ed. I dont think Walters will redshirt. I think X finds value in that early paying time in games these guys get ad throughout the year in blow outs. Just in case they are actually needed due to injury.

Makinde?

XUGRAD80
04-14-2018, 08:38 PM
Ummm... Try Anthony Davis and Kobe Simmons, off the top of my head. Can’t imagine X wouldn’t at least try to get into the mix for Hurt with Ben Johnson now on staff. They’d be stupid not to, even if it goes nowhere.

You mean Anthony Davis of KENTUCKY and Kobe Simmons of ARIZONA? Yep, those schools are like Xavier, aren’t they?

You know, Xavier. The small, private university with strong academics that we all know and love.

Seriously, I can’t imagine that the administration would look favorably upon the basketball program (or any of the athletic teams) suddenly starting to recruit team members that have stated up front that they are not there to get an education.....no matter how good a player they are. That stuff might fly at huge state universities, but I don’t think it will fly at X. (And I hope it never does)

AviatorX
04-14-2018, 08:42 PM
You mean Anthony Davis of KENTUCKY and Kobe Simmons of ARIZONA? Yep, those schools are like Xavier, aren’t they?

You know, Xavier. The small, private university with strong academics that we all know and love.

Seriously, I can’t imagine that the administration would look favorably upon the basketball program (or any of the athletic teams) suddenly starting to recruit team members that have stated up front that they are not there to get an education.....no matter how good a player they are. That stuff might fly at huge state universities, but I don’t think it will fly at X. (And I hope it never does)

If at any point Travis Steele is not recruiting one and done talents he has a chance of making in roads with he should be fired.

It's not really that hard. You want the best players possible (excluding obvious red flags).

AviatorX
04-14-2018, 08:43 PM
Makinde?

Derrick Brown.

XUGRAD80
04-14-2018, 09:21 PM
If at any point Travis Steele is not recruiting one and done talents he has a chance of making in roads with he should be fired.

It's not really that hard. You want the best players possible (excluding obvious red flags).


Education first is “The Xavier Way”. If what you want is a basketball factory that only cares about the product ON THE COURT, and not about the players as STUDENTS, Xavier is NOT the place.

D-West & PO-Z
04-14-2018, 09:22 PM
With all the problems at L'Ville, not sure why they would still be in the picture. Does he want to play in the Dance?

Louisville is at minimum 2 years away from any missed tourneys unless they self impose. Who knows if the evidence will ever come out and if they get punished at all.