Chris Mack Memoriam

[OTRMUSKIE]

Thank you coach Mack!!! See ya!!!!! Have fun Louisville!!!!

[Caveat]

Congrats -- you bailed on your alma mater for an extra million bucks.

Best of luck in your future endeavors.

[BandAid]

Good luck with your hopes and dreams.

[MITTENMUSKIE16]

Now remember this feeling for the next few years, Naji, Paul, Q. Coach Mack said you weren’t good enough for him. Burn that one into your mind and play pissed off for the duration of your respective careers.

[xu82]

Thanks for everything (really!). I hope you have to sit out of the NCAA’s for the next 5 years (really!).

[GoMuskies]

Shove your Twitter note to Xavier somewhere unpleasant.

[Caveat]

Shove your Twitter note to Xavier somewhere unpleasant.

Few things in life ring so hollow or present so tone deaf as the "I love this place so much..." letters after you've skipped town in search of more money.

[XU_Lou]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8pSTsN_B0E

[Caf]

Kick rocks!

[BCole4Life]

That letter he just posted to Twitter is one of the biggest loads of crap I've ever seen.

Given how smooth of a hire this was for Louisville there's zero question he was out the door, at least mentally, beginning at some point this season.

You never heard reports of Xavier looking to increase his contract or Mack was engaging with their administrators following his meeting with Louisville. There was no effort to keep him because it would have been fruitless.

He thinks he's bigger than us. Let that sink in.

[GIMMFD]

I feel like I just got broken up with, I need a drink.

[BandAid]

I wanted to post this in the Chris Mack discussion thread, but it was closed. So it's a little out of place here, but here it is nonetheless:

I'm sooo happy that Louisville, of all programs, got their number one choice in coach on their exact timeline. They really deserve it.

[dubbledxu]

WE are all disappointed, but no one is more disappointed than Jay Wright.

[xu82]

WE are all disappointed, but no one is more disappointed than Jay Wright.

If they were smart they would have backed the Brinks truck up to Jay Wrights door. He owned Mack.

[paulxu]

I would be very surprised if his contract (with other income sources) doesn't total more than $4 million/year.

[LadyMuskie]

Maybe we'll beat Nova more often now!!

[GoMuskies]

I would be very surprised if his contract (with other income sources) doesn't total more than $4 million/year.

He''ll be doing Al Purnell Old Folks Country Sausage commercials to his heart's content down in Louisville. That will make up the difference.

[SemajParlor]

Ok, I've been waiting to say this. Chris Mack handled the crosstown brawl horribly lol

[novachap]

damnit.... did not want him to leave, enjoyed the outcomes.

Seriously though, that sucks. You all saw it coming, it clearly was a $$$ grab. Too bad, he did a great job and was well respected. Sorry you have to go through the search / replacement process now. If your friends in Indy can survive changes, so can X. The brand is bigger than Mack. Good luck.

[Caveat]

damnit.... did not want him to leave, enjoyed the outcomes.

Seriously though, that sucks. You all saw it coming, it clearly was a $$$ grab. Too bad, he did a great job and was well respected. Sorry you have to go through the search / replacement process now. If your friends in Indy can survive changes, so can X. The brand is bigger than Mack. Good luck.

We have friends in Indy?

[xu82]

Remember all the rumors that he was a douche bag when he was at X? I believe them!


(If there was no such rumor, let this be the start of one.)

[Xville]

F you mack and your bs Twitter message. Kick rocks and thanks for leaving so someone else can get us to where you couldn't

[Jesuit4Life]

Losing our head coach, all of our assistant coaches (except for Steele assuming he gets the job, hopefully), possibly our DOBA (please don't go, Mario - we need some continuity here), plus remains to be seen which current players might transfer, and recruits decommit/change interest.

Why does it feel like we're the ones getting sanctions here?

[Caveat]

Losing our head coach, all of our assistant coaches (except for Steele assuming he gets the job, hopefully), possibly our DOBA (please don't go, Mario - we need some continuity here), plus remains to be seen which current players might transfer, and recruits decommit/change interest.

Why does it feel like we're the ones getting sanctions here?

Welcome to college athletics.

[Xville]

Keep Scruggs and naji....the rest really doesn't matter. The recruits are average at best

[BandAid]

Keep Scruggs and naji....the rest really doesn't matter. The recruits are average at best

And Tyrique and Q. The low post would be a black hole without Tyrique, and Q will be a steadying presence for the team.

[drudy23]

Keep Scruggs and naji....the rest really doesn't matter. The recruits are average at best

We need Q and Rique.

[JTG]

The reported meeting during the BE tournament in NY, to hammer out the details with Louisville explains a lot. Not surprising we looked like shit against FSU. That part really pisses me off. Also leaving for $1 mil, with all of UL's uncertainty leads me to believe something else is going on.

[Xville]

The reported meeting during the BE tournament in NY, to hammer out the details with Louisville explains a lot. Not surprising we looked like shit against FSU. That part really pisses me off. Also leaving for $1 mil, with all of UL's uncertainty leads me to believe something else is going on.

Dear lord when are you all going to realize money is probably 5th on the list

[Xville]

We need Q and Rique.

I'm just assuming they aren't going anywhere.

[BMoreX]

Posting what I did on Twitter earlier:

I knew this day would come the day that UL fired Pitino (and really, even way earlier than that), but still, it sucks losing @CoachChrisMack as head coach. It just really really sucks in what has been a really shitty week for Xavier basketball. As a fan, I’ve never known Xavier basketball without Coach Mack at the helm so it will certainly be a radical change for me. Coach Mack, thank you for everything you’ve done for @XavierUniv. Obviously disappointed right now but know that Mack has certainly left us in a better place than when he arrived. All X fans wish he would have been a lifelong coach here but things happen. It’s just sad, disappointing and a “what could have been feeling” now that it’s over. That said, I hope @GC_XUAthletics, the Athletic Dept. and the XU administration make the obvious hire of @CoachSteeleXU who deserves the opportunity and who I believe will be the next great head coach for @XavierMBB. Let’s keep this thundering train rolling right along! #LetsGoX

[LadyMuskie]

Dear lord when are you all going to realize money is probably 5th on the list

Right. Number 1 on the list: Don't have to play a Jay Wright coached team twice a year.

[Caf]

damnit.... did not want him to leave, enjoyed the outcomes.

Seriously though, that sucks. You all saw it coming, it clearly was a $$$ grab. Too bad, he did a great job and was well respected. Sorry you have to go through the search / replacement process now. If your friends in Indy can survive changes, so can X. The brand is bigger than Mack. Good luck.

Thanks guest speaker! Now go the hell back to your own team's board

[IM4X]

Keep Scruggs and naji....the rest really doesn't matter. The recruits are average at best

Why would you say that!!!!

Lets not lose our minds... the coach is the sell out to the corrupt school down south... not our players.

I am on record as saying I really hope all of our players come back... Pretty sure it would be beautiful for us all to see these guys take our hoop team to the first final Four and throw that in Mack and Miller face... that it can be done.... they just couldn't do it.

[Lloyd Braun]

Dear lord when are you all going to realize money is probably 5th on the list

So what are 1-4?

[xavierj]

Keep Scruggs and naji....the rest really doesn't matter. The recruits are average at best

Keonte Kennedy will be a star. Lights out shooter, long, athletic. We want him, just an FYI.

[Caveat]

So what are 1-4?

1. Strippers
2. Taxpayer funded NBA arena w/ no NBA team
3. Rick Pitino’s undeleted voice mails still on the machine
4. No one asking where you went to high school in casual conversations

[BandAid]

So what are 1-4?


Right. Number 1 on the list: Don't have to play a Jay Wright coached team twice a year.

I think he was trying to suggest Mack now has the fifth(ish) highest base pay among college coaches.

[whopper]

good luck..the past 3 years have drained me(in a pleasant way) as I forgot what it was like to care. My daughters are at X(both will be graduated by next year..great education) so now I have a few more years to follow to see how this turns out. I hope we don't lose the Dartmouth guy (Evan) as I saw him play against the Yale team that beat Baylor and lost to Duke by 6 and he was very competitive as a freshman with 12 and 7 in an overtime loss.

[XUGRAD80]

I know that a lot of people are feeling like they have been left at the alter right now, but I guess it would be to much to ask that they still show a little maturity and not act like jerks. Good Lord people, he has every right to take another job and do what he feels is best for himself and his family. He doesn’t owe you or me one damn thing. Accusing him of giving less than his full effort, accusing him of breaking recruiting rules, calling him names like you were kids on the schoolhouse play ground. I would hope that our Xavier education and Christian faith would lead us to act a little better than that. Let’s wish the man and his family the best....except when they play X....and move on. He did A LOT of good for the U and led the team to heights it had never reached before. I for one thank him for that much. I’m not happy that he is gone, but I’m sure not going to lose my cool over it.

[novachap]

sure thing, sorry to bother you... back I go, we have a few things going on as well.

[Straightshooter]

Like the recent thread said, and what earlier threads mentioned of people familiar with him, Mack is a douche.

He's doesn't wear the pants in that family.

[markchal]

.. back I go, we have a few things going on as well.

dang, that was a good own.

[GoMuskies]

4. No one asking where you went to high school in casual conversations

You've never been to Louisville, apparently. He's going to end up in a lot of very confusing conversations when he says "St. X".

[LadyMuskie]

I know that a lot of people are feeling like they have been left at the alter right now, but I guess it would be to much to ask that they still show a little maturity and not act like jerks. Good Lord people, he has every right to take another job and do what he feels is best for himself and his family. He doesn’t owe you or me one damn thing. Accusing him of giving less than his full effort, accusing him of breaking recruiting rules, calling him names like you were kids on the schoolhouse play ground. I would hope that our Xavier education and Christian faith would lead us to act a little better than that. Let’s wish the man and his family the best....except when they play X....and move on. He did A LOT of good for the U and led the team to heights it had never reached before. I for one thank him for that much. I’m not happy that he is gone, but I’m sure not going to lose my cool over it.

I think we've all moved on, hence this thread.

When has this messageboard ever shown an ounce of maturity. I mean, there's literally a thread right now that's Rick Rolling people. Come on!

[OTRMUSKIE]

sure thing, sorry to bother you... back I go, we have a few things going on as well.

I like that, that’s funny.

[LadyMuskie]

sure thing, sorry to bother you... back I go, we have a few things going on as well.

This was cruel.

[novachap]

This was cruel.

Sorry LadyMuskie... I came in peace offering condolences. Let my snarky out on the response to go back to my board.. Good luck with the search.

[xavierdude]

good luck..the past 3 years have drained me(in a pleasant way) as I forgot what it was like to care. My daughters are at X(both will be graduated by next year..great education) so now I have a few more years to follow to see how this turns out. I hope we don't lose the Dartmouth guy (Evan) as I saw him play against the Yale team that beat Baylor and lost to Duke by 6 and he was very competitive as a freshman with 12 and 7 in an overtime loss.

He's gone (Evan that is).

[Caveat]

I know that a lot of people are feeling like they have been left at the alter right now, but I guess it would be to much to ask that they still show a little maturity and not act like jerks. Good Lord people, he has every right to take another job and do what he feels is best for himself and his family. He doesn’t owe you or me one damn thing. Accusing him of giving less than his full effort, accusing him of breaking recruiting rules, calling him names like you were kids on the schoolhouse play ground. I would hope that our Xavier education and Christian faith would lead us to act a little better than that. Let’s wish the man and his family the best....except when they play X....and move on. He did A LOT of good for the U and led the team to heights it had never reached before. I for one thank him for that much. I’m not happy that he is gone, but I’m sure not going to lose my cool over it.

He’s left the program in a lurch at, arguably, the first major crossroads Xavier has faced since joining the Bug East. We already have one recruit that was a potential starter next season leaving.

So yeah, not a lot of warm thoughts for Mack right now. He has his money, he doesn’t need my well-wishes.

[Xville]

So what are 1-4?

1. Best facilities in college basketball
2. Top 10 historical program
3. 2 times the fanbase every night
4. Chance to compete against the absolute bluebloods of the bluebloods in unc, Duke and uk

[Caf]

sure thing, sorry to bother you... back I go, we have a few things going on as well.

Good one. Exactly why I call out posts like this now. You only show up when X is in the gutter or just loss to you and you're feeling superior. The second someone doesn't treat you like their pal the claws come out.

[paulxu]

For a little humor, this was in the Louisville Courier Journal

A Louisville spokesman said a contract had not been signed as of Tuesday afternoon.


“Reports that the University of Louisville has hired a men’s basketball coach are premature," Louisville spokesman John Karman said in a statement. "There is no contract. The appropriate boards have not yet met to consider a contract. Nor are the board members aware of any terms in a potential contract.”

Louisville is expected to introduce Mack at a press conference on Wednesday afternoon after the school's athletic association and trustees meet at the KFC Yum Center to approve the hire.

I know it's a done deal, but with how screwed up that school is, couldn't you just see the Trustees pulling the rug?

[BandAid]

I know it's a done deal, but with how screwed up that school is, couldn't you just see the Trustees pulling the rug?

I would cry with laughter.

[dubbledxu]

For a little humor, this was in the Louisville Courier Journal

A Louisville spokesman said a contract had not been signed as of Tuesday afternoon.



I know it's a done deal, but with how screwed up that school is, couldn't you just see the Trustees pulling the rug?

tonight would be a great time for another FBI leak...

[X Factor]

Mack couldn't get us any farther than any other coach Xavier has had on the sidelines.

What Jay Wright did to him every year would be considered a felony in most states.

His teams didn't play great defense (Skip Prosser style).

He leaves after flaming out as a 1 seed in the NCAA Tournament.

He kept the program on solid ground, that's about it.

[novachap]

Good one. Exactly why I call out posts like this now. You only show up when X is in the gutter or just loss to you and you're feeling superior. The second someone doesn't treat you like their pal the claws come out.

Yeah, not true... been on here a number of times and congratulated you guys on tourney wins, OOC wins, winning the big east as well talking hoops strategy with some of the other folks. Your fans are incredibly passionate and I have a tremendous amount of respect for X's program. but, hey, believe what you want.

[xudash]

For a little humor, this was in the Louisville Courier Journal

A Louisville spokesman said a contract had not been signed as of Tuesday afternoon.



I know it's a done deal, but with how screwed up that school is, couldn't you just see the Trustees pulling the rug?

Recall the article I believe you posted about the mechanics behind his Xavier Buyout. UL, according to it will be purchasing his existing contract directly from Xavier to avoid tax consequences.

At the very least, I presume we have a nice wire transfer on the way.

[Lloyd Braun]

Mack already extending offers to recruits from U of L. Guess you have to strike while the iron is hot...

[LadyMuskie]

Sorry LadyMuskie... I came in peace offering condolences. Let my snarky out on the response to go back to my board.. Good luck with the search.

Good luck to you guys too. I'm not too proud to admit I'm totally jealous!

[JTG]

Mack already extending offers to recruits from U of L. Guess you have to strike while the iron is hot...

This is what upsets me more than the coach leaving. The disruption, stealing players, taking assistants
We have 2 freshman that are stars in the making, Naji and Scruggs. If we lose them we have a hot mess next year. This is the part that makes me nervous.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Don’t be nervous. X will be fine. This is a great day!!!! You might not see it right now but you will be changing your tune in 3 years

[GuyFawkes38]

I found myself to be much more disappointed when Miller and Matta left. Mack is just not as good of a coach. It’s comforting to know that this will end badly for him.

[GoMuskies]

It’s comforting to know that this will end badly for him.

It certainly will if Christi makes him live in Shively!

[MHettel]

Ok, maybe the proximity to Cincinnati comes into play here, but I'll tell you that the rest of the country view Louisville as a town. Not a city. At all.

Have fun with that, Mack. The KFC Yum Arena or whatever it's called. No, that ain't some redneck shit at all.

You know why UofL is the biggest show in town? Cause it's a minor league town.

A low end commuter school in a 3rd rate town. With a bunch of redneck fans that will run his ass out of there in a minute when he stumbles against the real blue bloods.

Running away from Jay Wright, right into the crosshairs of Roy, K, Cal, and Boeheim. I'm getting some popcorn for this shitshow.

I'm going there......Fuck Chris Mack. I hope you fail.

[GoMuskies]

Fuck Chris Mack. I hope you fail.

You have to become a supporting member. We have a thread for that in the Lounge.

[Xville]

[QUOTE=MHettel;621163]Ok, maybe the proximity to Cincinnati comes into play here, but I'll tell you that the rest of the country view Louisville as a town. Not a city. At all.

Have fun with that, Mack. The KFC Yum Arena or whatever it's called. No, that ain't some redneck shit at all.

You know why UofL is the biggest show in town? Cause it's a minor league town.

A low end commuter school in a 3rd rate town. With a bunch of redneck fans that will run his ass out of there in a minute when he stumbles against the real blue bloods.

Running away from Jay Wright, right into the crosshairs of Roy, K, Cal, and Boeheim. I'm getting some popcorn for this shitshow.

I'm going there......Fuck Chris Mack. I hope you fail

Having lived in both for a decade each, cincy and louisville are about the same save for the failing pro sports teams. Everything else is pretty much the same; cliques and all.

[aramis]

I like how in his BS letter on twitter he says "when we beat that school in Clifton" sorry pal there is no more "We". Just like the University of Middletown North you are dead to me.

Now lets move on! Onward and upward!

[paulxu]

Mack couldn't get us any farther than any other coach Xavier has had on the sidelines.

What Jay Wright did to him every year would be considered a felony in most states.

His teams didn't play great defense (Skip Prosser style).

He leaves after flaming out as a 1 seed in the NCAA Tournament.

He kept the program on solid ground, that's about it.

He also had us in the AP season ending top 10, 2 out of the last 3 years.
Did anyone else do that?

[GoMuskies]

He also had us in the AP season ending top 10, 2 out of the last 3 years.
Did anyone else do that?

C'mon paul, the official Chris Mack Was Actually a Decent Guy and a Good Coach Day isn't until Thursday. Mark your calendar. Today is official Hate Chris Mack Eve. So you can guess what tomorrow is....

[Xville]

He also had us in the AP season ending top 10, 2 out of the last 3 years.
Did anyone else do that?

College basketball is a postseason sport. Glad for the elite eight but the two first weekend exits were extremely hard to stomach and that's on him.

[xukeith]

Where was all this anger and spitefulness when Matta, Miller, Gillen, Prosser left?
Oh yeahhh
There was the angst and bitterness.
Chill.
X will be fine. Still love me Coach Miller. At least he left with a press conference and tears on how awesome X was to him.

[LadyMuskie]

Where was all this anger and spitefulness when Matta, Miller, Gillen, Prosser left?
Oh yeahhh
There was the angst and bitterness.
Chill.
X will be fine. Still love me Coach Miller. At least he left with a press conference and tears on how awesome X was to him.

When Miller left, he backhanded X by saying that it would be easier to win a national championship at Arizona than at X. That press conference was the first of several really bad press conferences in Xavier history.

[Xavier]

College basketball is a postseason sport. Glad for the elite eight but the two first weekend exits were extremely hard to stomach and that's on him.

Then why do you care so much about the record vs wright?

[paulxu]

C'mon paul, the official Chris Mack Was Actually a Decent Guy and a Good Coach Day isn't until Thursday. Mark your calendar. Today is official Hate Chris Mack Eve. So you can guess what tomorrow is....

Good point. My bad.


College basketball is a postseason sport. Glad for the elite eight but the two first weekend exits were extremely hard to stomach and that's on him.

You are correct. He failed to hit his season average on FT's which would have sealed the deal, in addition to committing 5 more TO's than his season average. I predict this will cost him down the road.

[Xville]

Then why do you care so much about the record vs wright?

Because it further proves my point that mack is a good not great coach.

[JTG]

It certainly will if Christi makes him live in Shively!

Or New Albany

[BandAid]

Having now witnessed three coaching exits in my years. Mack handled the departing party role the best (so far). Miller would've gotten the nod except for a terrible sentence in his presser. And Matta's exit was an absolute train wreck - a thief in the night.

The only downside with Mack's is it felt like a low speed, slow motion fender bender. We all knew it was coming, yet it still felt dragged out.

[Xavier]

Because it further proves my point that mack is a good not great coach.

Exactly. You completely throw out arguably the two greatest regular seasons in Xavier history because "its a post season sport" then continue to bring up regular season match ups. Can't have it one way and not the other.

[IM4X]

I know that a lot of people are feeling like they have been left at the alter right now, but I guess it would be to much to ask that they still show a little maturity and not act like jerks. Good Lord people, he has every right to take another job and do what he feels is best for himself and his family. He doesn’t owe you or me one damn thing. Accusing him of giving less than his full effort, accusing him of breaking recruiting rules, calling him names like you were kids on the schoolhouse play ground. I would hope that our Xavier education and Christian faith would lead us to act a little better than that. Let’s wish the man and his family the best....except when they play X....and move on. He did A LOT of good for the U and led the team to heights it had never reached before. I for one thank him for that much. I’m not happy that he is gone, but I’m sure not going to lose my cool over it.

I am quite sure everyone on this board sincerely wishes the Mack family a happy and healthy personal life. I know I do.

Though, since you brought up Christian faith, I am betting Jesus might understand why X fans are a bit turned off by a person who claims his alma mater is his dream job... and then turns his back on those people who embraced him and trusted him... for what... greed... for lots more money... to do the lords work?... Nope... to go work at a school that is known for engaging in unethical, illegal, immoral, and frankly unholy practices.... why... for the purpose of gaining an unfair advantage over others.

Had he left for a school with any sort of moral compass... had he at least gone to a place where the school or the previous coach he was replacing was honest and respectful and had a reputation for conducting his life in the Christian way... maybe just maybe there would be less disgust.

Name calling may be going too far... just as suggesting fans don't have the right to express that Mack let them down is going too far.

I am not saying he shouldn't have taken the offer - That is his decision and he made it. But let's not pretend this was a calling he had from the Lord Jesus Christ to go coach a bunch of poor orphans at a homeless shelter. It was simply a calling from his own ego to cash in on a possible once-in-a-lifetime offer.

[Muskie in dayton]

Having now witnessed three coaching exits in my years. Mack handled the departing party role the best (so far )

If there’s any truth to the rumors of him taking our recruits or current players, then it will be worse.

[sweet6teen]

Where would Mack be today if it wasn’t for Xavier? My alma mater took a flyer on a virtual unknown about 10 years ago. A former high school girls coach with a few years as a college assistant. His phone wasn’t exactly ringing off the hook with head coaching offers and certainly not offers from a top 25 program. Mack would be Kelsey. He would have gone to a small school and MAYBE recently moved up to an A10/Horizon/MVC school. Ungrateful POS. How quickly can we get him out of town and get his stench off OUR program. I’ll help him pack.

[Xville]

Exactly. You completely throw out arguably the two greatest regular seasons in Xavier history because "its a post season sport" then continue to bring up regular season match ups. Can't have it one way and not the other.

I bring up one matchup that further emphasizes how he was a good coach, not a great one.

[Section 200]

I keep hearing that Mack is leaving to make the Final Four - well, its his own damn fault he didn't make the Final Four this year. #1 seed, bracket falls apart, etc etc.

[Section 200]

Ok, maybe the proximity to Cincinnati comes into play here, but I'll tell you that the rest of the country view Louisville as a town. Not a city. At all.

Have fun with that, Mack. The KFC Yum Arena or whatever it's called. No, that ain't some redneck shit at all.

You know why UofL is the biggest show in town? Cause it's a minor league town.

A low end commuter school in a 3rd rate town. With a bunch of redneck fans that will run his ass out of there in a minute when he stumbles against the real blue bloods.

Running away from Jay Wright, right into the crosshairs of Roy, K, Cal, and Boeheim. I'm getting some popcorn for this shitshow.

I'm going there......Fuck Chris Mack. I hope you fail.

This is my impression of Louisville too.

[XUGRAD80]

Where would Mack be today if it wasn’t for Xavier? My alma mater took a flyer on a virtual unknown about 10 years ago. A former high school girls coach with a few years as a college assistant. His phone wasn’t exactly ringing off the hook with head coaching offers and certainly not offers from a top 25 program. Mack would be Kelsey. He would have gone to a small school and MAYBE recently moved up to an A10/Horizon/MVC school. Ungrateful POS. How quickly can we get him out of town and get his stench off OUR program. I’ll help him pack.


Not that FACTS actually matter but....Mack was an assistant coach at Xavier and Wake Forest from 1999-2009. That is TEN years....not a FEW years.

We might also ask where Xavier would be if he hadn’t been the HC for the last nine years? He did win a whole lot of games while here, it’s not like he wasn’t earning his pay.

[Blue Blooded-05]

Not that FACTS actually matter but....Mack was an assistant coach at Xavier and Wake Forest from 1999-2009. That is TEN years....not a FEW years.

We might also ask where Xavier would be if he hadn’t been the HC for the last nine years? He did win a whole lot of games while here, it’s not like he wasn’t earning his pay.

You’ve obviously moved on to acceptance phase. Don’t look down on anyone who is still in anger phase. Everyone will get there eventually.

[Nigel Tufnel]

I got duped...I’m going to have to go back and search for my Mack was a douche in college thread and update it. Once a douche...

I’m just kidding. I’ve known this was happening for weeks...if not months...still shocked at how disappointed I am once it became official. I’m not bitter...thankful for everything he did for the program. Won’t root against...won’t root for him.

Moral of the story? A douche doesn’t change its stripes. Hehe.

[BandAid]

You’ve obviously moved on to acceptance phase. Don’t look down on anyone who is still in anger phase. Everyone will get there eventually.

Eff Thad Matta and his beak of a nose.

[LadyMuskie]

Moral of the story? A douche doesn’t change its stripes. Hehe.
He just gets married and let's his wife call the shots. :wink:

[Blue Blooded-05]

He just gets married and let's his wife call the shots. :wink:

... and she went to Dayton! Hmmm......

[bjf123]

I keep hearing that Mack is leaving to make the Final Four - well, its his own damn fault he didn't make the Final Four this year. #1 seed, bracket falls apart, etc etc.

Yep, but he’s going to a program that has made it multiple times. Same with Miller, though that hasn’t worked out too well for him. Like it or not, until we get there, we’re always going to run the risk of our coach leaving for the perceived greener pastures, though those pastures are getting much smaller. If the Louisville job wasn’t open, I don’t think Mack would have left for any other job. Unfortunately, at the moment, we’re still a Buick.


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[xu82]

This is my impression of Louisville too.

I’ve been hearing that a lot lately, and not just because of Mack bailing for the money.

[bjf123]

Don’t be nervous. X will be fine. This is a great day!!!! You might not see it right now but you will be changing your tune in 3 years

Sorry. I don’t want to wait 3 years. We’ve seen how great the Reds rebuild is working. I don’t want 2 or 3 years of being DePaul.


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[LadyMuskie]

... and she went to Dayton! Hmmm......

Good point. Just more evidence of bad decision making.

[MITTENMUSKIE16]

Mack has offered two 5 star recruits in the past 3 hours... he knows he’s not going to have a full stable of scholarships, right?

[xu82]

Mack has offered two 5 star recruits in the past 3 hours... he knows he’s not going to have a full stable of scholarships, right?

I hope he gets 7 years of walk ons.

[LadyMuskie]

I hope he gets 7 years of walk ons.

Let's round up to 10 just for good measure!

[X Factor]

Mack has offered two 5 star recruits in the past 3 hours... he knows he’s not going to have a full stable of scholarships, right?

Who are they? I'm sorry, I hope he fails hugely.

[bjf123]

I’m guessing Mack is picking up a bunch of new Twitter followers and losing others. I fall into the latter. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180328/fe0520d5698dc56523b8828b304d9e24.jpg


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[MITTENMUSKIE16]

Make that 3. He’s offered Keion Brooks, Isaiah Stewart, and Ashton Hagans. Also offered 4 star kid named Josh Nickelberry. Can’t believe how quickly you can just change gears.

[Caveat]

Make that 3. He’s offered Keion Brooks, Isaiah Stewart, and Ashton Hagans. Also offered 4 star kid named Josh Nickelberry. Can’t believe how quickly you can just change gears.

It’s almost like he’s known this was happening for weeks.

[xu82]

Make that 3. He’s offered Keion Brooks, Isaiah Stewart, and Ashton Hagans. Also offered 4 star kid named Josh Nickelberry. Can’t believe how quickly you can just change gears.

But he’s not announced yet. He’s 100% X so far..... The early out is on Mack. He can’t be doing this without already having been distracted. Yeah, I’m bitter.

[xu82]

I hope he leads with “look, you’re fantastic and will probably be in the NBA before we are eligible for the NCAA”.

[MITTENMUSKIE16]

But he’s not announced yet. He’s 100% X so far..... The early out is on Mack. He can’t be doing this without already having been distracted. Yeah, I’m bitter.

Yep. Hard to ignore the fact that this easily could’ve played a role in a few xavier basketball related things, even though that wasn’t his intention. Players and coaches could probably get a sense that it was coming to an end, if some of these rumors are true.

[OH.X.MI]

I suppose I’m like a lot of you. Other than family, friends, and career Xavier basketball is the most important thing in my life. It’s my passion and hobby.

And as with any breakup, broken friendship, or career setback I’m going to be hurt and I’m going to be angry. I don’t think I need to be rational, nor do I care to be.

So here’s my “memoriam” - screw Chris Mack. If you’re not with us you’re against us. There will never be a “welcome home” from me. No thanks for the memories.

Next man up. And as always, let’s go X.

[Olsingledigit]

Sorry LadyMuskie... I came in peace offering condolences. Let my snarky out on the response to go back to my board.. Good luck with the search.

Seriously, ThX for the thoughts Navachap. Nerves are just raw around here. Good luck this weekend and bring home another NC.

[chico]

He''ll be doing Al Purnell Old Folks Country Sausage commercials to his heart's content down in Louisville. That will make up the difference.

NNOOOOOOO!!!!! They're big UK guys, anyway.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Can we all please agree never anymore "He's never leaving, he'll be here forever" posts on any of our coaches no matter who they are?

Not sure why some people are so absolute with anything, least of which Xavier basketball coaches.

[Nigel Tufnel]

Yeah, not true... been on here a number of times and congratulated you guys on tourney wins, OOC wins, winning the big east as well talking hoops strategy with some of the other folks. Your fans are incredibly passionate and I have a tremendous amount of respect for X's program. but, hey, believe what you want.

I endorse this....this poster has been 100% pro X. Good luck this weekend, Novachap. Bring that shit home to the Big East. Rooting like crazy for you guys this weekend.

[Xville]

I'm going to be rooting for Loyola first and foremost. After that though I'll gladly root for nova.

[LadyMuskie]

I’m guessing Mack is picking up a bunch of new Twitter followers and losing others. I fall into the latter. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180328/fe0520d5698dc56523b8828b304d9e24.jpg


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He needs to get that picture off of there. He can't find a picture of the fried chicken arena to put up there?

[xu82]

Seriously, ThX for the thoughts Navachap. Nerves are just raw around here. Good luck this weekend and bring home another NC.

What he said!

[xu82]

I endorse this....this poster has been 100% pro X. Good luck this weekend, Novachap. Bring that shit home to the Big East. Rooting like crazy for you guys this weekend.

And that!


Nova chap is a good guy. Sorry for any rough feelings that may spill over onto you. Why didn’t they overpay Wright? He owned Mack....

[JTG]

It’s almost like he’s known this was happening for weeks.

Duh...the report is the contract was agreed to at the Big East Tournament in N.Y., 3 wks ago.

[MuskiePimp23]

Because it further proves my point that mack is a good not great coach.

I'm not going to defend Mack on his record versus Villanova and Jay Wright. However, I will say that since Xavier has joined the Big East, I think it probably goes without question that Villanova has been THE most dominant team in all of college basketball. 4 Regular Season Big East titles, 3 Conference Tournament Titles, 5 NCAA's, 2 Final Fours, and 1 National Title (possibly more after next Monday). They also have the highest winning % of any team in college basketball over the last 5 years. They have easily 2, maybe as many as 4-5 NBA players on their current roster. They have been flat out ELITE since we joined the league. I don't know of any program in college basketball that would have a winning record against them if they were also in the Big East.

[xu82]

I'm not going to defend Mack on his record versus Villanova and Jay Wright. However, I will say that since Xavier has joined the Big East, I think it probably goes without question that Villanova has been THE most dominant team in all of college basketball. 4 Regular Season Big East titles, 3 Conference Tournament Titles, 5 NCAA's, 2 Final Fours, and 1 National Title (possibly more after next Monday). They also have the highest winning % of any team in college basketball over the last 5 years. They have easily 2, maybe as many as 4-5 NBA players on their current roster. They have been flat out ELITE since we joined the league. I don't know of any program in college basketball that would have a winning record against them if they were also in the Big East.

All the more reason to go after Jay Wright and leave us the hell alone!!!

[Irishjohn68]

Praying Louisville gets the death penalty. Sell out!

[bjf123]

Duh...the report is the contract was agreed to at the Big East Tournament in N.Y., 3 wks ago.

Wouldn’t that be tampering, unless it was done with the approval of X?


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[Caf]

Seriously, ThX for the thoughts Navachap. Nerves are just raw around here. Good luck this weekend and bring home another NC.

Uhhh ya think? We just lost the guy who was supposed to be our Jay Wright and now I got a blessed Nova fan telling me it's gonna be alright? We've had 3 coaches in his tenure. Apologies to NovaChap. Nothing personal, just basketball.

Here's my memoriam to Mack: he was our stepping stone. Our tradition, our passionate fanbase, our awesome arena and the schools focus on basketball are what makes Xavier successful. It's why we don't need to hire outside experience. Snow tweeted this and I love it: "Since 1979 Xavier has hired SIX head coaches. Their combined division I win total as head coaches before being hired by Xavier is 41." Xavier made Mack who he is, not the other way around. I'm sure he regrets that he wasn't able to get it done here. Now we'll move onto someone who can.

[dubbledxu]

Wouldn’t that be tampering, unless it was done with the approval of X?


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Not if they just met with his agent and not him, which has been discussed previously. The team knew.

[JTG]

Wouldn’t that be tampering, unless it was done with the approval of X?


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I'm 1000% certain X would not give approval for that. Nut it's probably impossible to prove. Probably all done thru Mack's agent.

[drudy23]

With the rate of offers sent out today, it's obvious Mack's been working the Louisville angle for some time.

The X admin, certainly the staff, and probably the players knew about this for weeks likely. I can't see how they couldn't.

I'm sure Mack and Christopher talk most days...I'm sure it came up once or twice in conversation.

[dubbledxu]

The players knew in NYC

[Backyard Champ]

The players knew in NYC

It's possible. But also seemed like they weren't happy today, so maybe they didn't believe it.

[Masterofreality]

I suppose I’m like a lot of you. Other than family, friends, and career Xavier basketball is the most important thing in my life. It’s my passion and hobby.

And as with any breakup, broken friendship, or career setback I’m going to be hurt and I’m going to be angry. I don’t think I need to be rational, nor do I care to be.

So here’s my “memoriam” - screw Chris Mack. If you’re not with us you’re against us. There will never be a “welcome home” from me. No thanks for the memories.

Next man up. And as always, let’s go X.

This. Period.

[coasterville95]

That would explain our March.

Recall we were doing great until halftime of the Providence game. Then we fell apart. Maybe that’s when word got to the team. And the team decided to quit on Mack

Face we didn’t look that great in round 1 of the ncaa. Probably more the other team sucking than us

[novachap]

Uhhh ya think? We just lost the guy who was supposed to be our Jay Wright and now I got a blessed Nova fan telling me it's gonna be alright? We've had 3 coaches in his tenure. Apologies to NovaChap. Nothing personal, just basketball.

Here's my memoriam to Mack: he was our stepping stone. Our tradition, our passionate fanbase, our awesome arena and the schools focus on basketball are what makes Xavier successful. It's why we don't need to hire outside experience. Snow tweeted this and I love it: "Since 1979 Xavier has hired SIX head coaches. Their combined division I win total as head coaches before being hired by Xavier is 41." Xavier made Mack who he is, not the other way around. I'm sure he regrets that he wasn't able to get it done here. Now we'll move onto someone who can.

Its cool CAF, i get it.

[LadyMuskie]

If it's true that this was going on during the season, then Mack should be forbidden from ever stepping foot on campus again. It's just sickening.

[XU_Lou]

NOVACHAP you're alright, and as far as I'm concerned you're welcome here. Since joining the BE I've grown to like and respect Villanova, to the point where they might be my second favorite team now. Yes, nerves are extremely raw right now, including mine.

[Masterofreality]

Its cool CAF, i get it.

Go get that next National Championship Nova!! ^

[xu82]

NOVACHAP you're alright, and as far as I'm concerned you're welcome here. Since joining the BE I've grown to like and respect Villanova, to the point where they might be my second favorite team now. Yes, nerves are extremely raw right now, including mine.

If we make a bad hire and become DePaul, I’ll cheer for Nova as I always do during the tournament. I thought Mack might be our Jay Wright, but he wasn’t the coach or the man I had hoped he was. Enjoy Hooker University. Oh....and the extra millions.

[Masterofreality]

Let me just say that on this solemn occasion, in memoriam....

......Fuck Chris Mack.

[Masterofreality]

If we make a bad hire and become DePaul, I’ll cheer for Nova as I always do during the tournament. I thought Mack might be our Jay Wright, but he wasn’t the coach or the man I had hoped he was. Enjoy Hooker University. Oh....and the extra million

Fixed that for you. ( sssssssssss)

[Dmartin]

Good riddance, Mack was a good coach and he helped build a good program but this year and two years ago both had disappointing endings. I believe probably three or four Big East coaches would have been as or more successful than Mack with the talent we had. Then theirs the Coaching Job shopping Mack does almost every year at the end of the season. So who wants to come to X or play your hardest when you know the head coach was just shopping for anther job?

Steve Lavin could have gotten us to an Elite 8 this year or a final 4!

[LadyMuskie]

Let me just say that on this solemn occasion, in memoriam....

......Fuck Chris Mack.

This is the MOR we all know and love!

[XUWahoo]

Am an X and UVa grad here, follow both teams (yeah, I know, the Hoos made NCAAT history this year in the absolute WORST way), and UVa beat Louisville three times last season, the second time being that game at the KFC Yum! Center in which the Hoos came through with the buzzer-beater after being down 4 points and 0.9 seconds left which must have really ticked them off, especially when U of L led the entire game. With Mack defecting to U of L, I now have an even greater incentive to dislike the Criminal Cards when they play UVa.

BTW, besides attending U of L sports, the Derby, and the Slugger Museum and pigging out on KFC, really what else is there to do in Louisville?

[OTRMUSKIE]

I hope this works for you. I found this never before seen footage of what looks like Mack and UofL AD Vince doing something very odd. https://twitter.com/kpjohns75/status/978821644096598017?s=12

[OTRMUSKIE]

And this one
https://twitter.com/kpjohns75/status/978822803976835078?s=21

[XUBison]

I never liked the guy. The brawl was his fault, and he killed Tu’s career. He also made Dez rape that girl. And worst of all, he can’t coach a lick of defense. Only a matter of time before he‘s caught banging a waitress on a tabletop at a local Skanksville eatery, no doubt.

[X-ceptional]

I really fucking hate the offseason.

[X Factor]

https://twitter.com/FredCowgillWLKY/status/978794417380380672

Can't stand his face.

[chico]

It's like he nailed his alma mater in the head with a basketball.

[Caf]

Am an X and UVa grad here, follow both teams (yeah, I know, the Hoos made NCAAT history this year in the absolute WORST way), and UVa beat Louisville three times last season, the second time being that game at the KFC Yum! Center in which the Hoos came through with the buzzer-beater after being down 4 points and 0.9 seconds left which must have really ticked them off, especially when U of L led the entire game. With Mack defecting to U of L, I now have an even greater incentive to dislike the Criminal Cards when they play UVa.

BTW, besides attending U of L sports, the Derby, and the Slugger Museum and pigging out on KFC, really what else is there to do in Louisville?

Man you must need a hug


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[trunnxx]

Mack is a soft ass bitch and our program and players have gotten softer since Miller left. I long for the days of defending the 3 and also dealing with ball pressure and not non-chalantly passing the ball 27 feet from the basket (while a Nova player picks it off for an uncontested layup).

Goodbye and good riddance softie. You talk a good game but can't outcoach Leonard Hamilton when it mattered most... thanks for sticking with the 1-3-1 too long in your pathetic last game. Not bitter.


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[bleedXblue]

Mack is a soft ass bitch and our program and players have gotten softer since Miller left. I long for the days of defending the 3 and also dealing with ball pressure and not non-chalantly passing the ball 27 feet from the basket (while a Nova player picks it off for an uncontested layup).

Goodbye and good riddance softie. You talk a good game but can't outcoach Leonard Hamilton when it mattered most... thanks for sticking with the 1-3-1 too long in your pathetic last game. Not bitter.


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Exactly. Haven't seen many posts about Mack sticking in that ridiculous 1-3-1 and letting FSU back in the game. Horrible coaching in his last game.

[XUGRAD80]

People, you need to get over the anger. It’s not doing anybody any good and it’s not going to change a thing. This has been rumored ever since Pitino left, so it shouldn’t have come as any surprise to anyone. If a coach leaving his job at the school you root for, and going to a different school, is the worst thing that happens to you this week.....consider yourself a very blessed person. If it’s not the worst thing that happens to you this week....then why are you even angry about it?

[LadyMuskie]

People, you need to get over the anger. It’s not doing anybody any good and it’s not going to change a thing. This has been rumored ever since Pitino left, so it shouldn’t have come as any surprise to anyone. If a coach leaving his job at the school you root for, and going to a different school, is the worst thing that happens to you this week.....consider yourself a very blessed person. If it’s not the worst thing that happens to you this week....then why are you even angry about it?

And people will get over it. You don't get to tell people how to grieve or move on. How many more of these are you going to post? It hasn't even been 24 hours. Maybe you should move on from worrying if people have moved on.

[throwbackmuskie]

Welp, I was wrong. More disappointed than anything else. Based on the info I knew and people I know, I expected him to stay till retirement or being terminated.

On to the next coach, wish him the best, but I always say, Xavier Makes coaches, coaches don't make Xavier.

[Lamont Sanford]

This thread has truly been cathartic to me as I deal with my anger/grief/denial. Thanks for all the good laughs!

In the infamous words of tHuggyyBear..."fuck 'em, really fuck 'em."

[XUBison]

People, you need to get over the anger. It’s not doing anybody any good and it’s not going to change a thing. This has been rumored ever since Pitino left, so it shouldn’t have come as any surprise to anyone. If a coach leaving his job at the school you root for, and going to a different school, is the worst thing that happens to you this week.....consider yourself a very blessed person. If it’s not the worst thing that happens to you this week....then why are you even angry about it?

Hi. I’m wondering if you could help me with a quick survey?

1. Are you a Xavier fan who insisted Chris Mack would never leave X? Y/N

2. Do you believe all former and current Xavier coaches are above reproach, and so should never receive criticism? Y/N

3. Are you, or have you ever been, a frequent contributor to MusketeerMadness? Y/N

Thank you in advance. Our research is designed to create a psychological profile of sanctimonious assholes. Your contribution will be invaluable.

[Muskie]

Hi. I’m wondering if you could help me with a quick survey?

1. Are you a Xavier fan who insisted Chris Mack would never leave X? No

2. Do you believe all former and current Xavier coaches are above reproach, and so should never receive criticism? No
3. Are you, or have you ever been, a frequent contributor to MusketeerMadness? Yes

Thank you in advance. Our research is designed to create a psychological profile of sanctimonious assholes. Your contribution will be invaluable.

What's my psychological profile?

[trunnxx]

Hi. I’m wondering if you could help me with a quick survey?

1. Are you a Xavier fan who insisted Chris Mack would never leave X? Y/N

2. Do you believe all former and current Xavier coaches are above reproach, and so should never receive criticism? Y/N

3. Are you, or have you ever been, a frequent contributor to MusketeerMadness? Y/N

Thank you in advance. Our research is designed to create a psychological profile of sanctimonious assholes. Your contribution will be invaluable.

A sanctimoniously assholish comment calling out sanctimonious assholes. It's like we are in the middle of Inception. Steele will be hired and the question about the top spinning or stopping will remain.

In all seriousness... Fuck Mack.


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[American X]

It ain't cool being no Judas during Holy Week.

[XUBison]

What's my psychological profile?

Fascinating... You are what we call a “one-thirder”. Very rare.

[XUBison]

A sanctimoniously assholish comment calling out sanctimonious assholes. It's like we are in the middle of Inception. Steele will be hired and the question about the top spinning or stopping will remain.

In all seriousness... Fuck Mack.


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Are you questioning the objectivity of my research?

[Muskie in dayton]

Thanks for all you did for X, Chris.

Having said that, good luck at your new dysfunctional Government school. Karma will present itself when VD beats Louisville while their ingrate fans dream up new names to call your wife. Oh and when you pronounce “Louisville”, make sure you say it like you have a cock in your mouth, like the locals do.

Forward we go... on to the next level!

[Muskie]

Yeah, not true... been on here a number of times and congratulated you guys on tourney wins, OOC wins, winning the big east as well talking hoops strategy with some of the other folks. Your fans are incredibly passionate and I have a tremendous amount of respect for X's program. but, hey, believe what you want.

Novachap is good people. It's just been a rough 14 days.

[jhelmes37]

I never liked the guy. The brawl was his fault, and he killed Tu’s career. He also made Dez rape that girl. And worst of all, he can’t coach a lick of defense. Only a matter of time before he‘s caught banging a waitress on a tabletop at a local Skanksville eatery, no doubt.

So wrong, but hilarious..............

[GoMuskies]

Oh and when you pronounce “Louisville”, make sure you say it like you have a cock in your mouth, like the locals do.


You know that he's been living with Christi for a while now, right?

[Muskie]

Where was all this anger and spitefulness when Matta, Miller, Gillen, Prosser left?
Oh yeahhh
There was the angst and bitterness.
Chill.
X will be fine. Still love me Coach Miller. At least he left with a press conference and tears on how awesome X was to him.

You remember those events differently than I do...

[jhelmes37]

How about this hot take?

Chris Mack is a cuck.

It's not about the money.

It's about bending over and letting Christi ram it home.

(If this is too over the top, well.........sorry, not sorry, I guess. I'm grieving here, and we all grieve differently.)

[jhelmes37]

You remember those events differently than I do...

Matta? You mean "old beaknose"?

Miller? You mean "the desert raccoon"?

We were in our infancy for Gillen and Prosser, and message boards/social media weren't around yet, so I'm sure we would have had some nice, insulting nicknames for them, too.

We've never just been "chill" when a coach leaves.............

[American X]

Where was all this anger and spitefulness when Matta, Miller, Gillen, Prosser left?


You remember those events differently than I do...

This is how I remember the sentiment when Matta and Miller left:


https://youtu.be/mCjBspxuUmU?t=6

[GoMuskies]

We were chill when Prosser left. Because 95% of people were thrilled he left. It was the perfect parting. We loved the guy and were thrilled to see him go, generally.

[Irishjohn68]

I hope like heck Louisville gets the death penalty!

[XUBison]

I can’t wait 24 months from now to see video footage of Mack running down a corridor at the Yum-Yum Center with reporters chasing after him, Billy Gillespie style. Hope he trips.

[fm0623]

Am I missing something?

Full disclosure. I'm a Nova fan. But like all Big Easters I root for all the teams in the conference. It's been great to see the rise of Xavier.

So I honestly don't get it. Why would someone choose Louisville over Xavier? There is literally nothing better about Louisville, not the city, not the school, not the program. I guess they pay more money. That's all I can come up with.

Honestly, I don't think Mack was a particularly good coach. Xavier has recruited really well under him. Lots of talent. But he doesn't seem to be some brilliant tactician or an innovator.

My hope is that this doesn't lead to transfers. I think you have a lot of great building blocks in place. I honestly think if this Steele is as good as people say, your program can take a step forward from this move, not a step backwards.

Good luck.

[Xville]

Am I missing something?

Full disclosure. I'm a Nova fan. But like all Big Easters I root for all the teams in the conference. It's been great to see the rise of Xavier.

So I honestly don't get it. Why would someone choose Louisville over Xavier? There is literally nothing better about Louisville, not the city, not the school, not the program. I guess they pay more money. That's all I can come up with.

Honestly, I don't think Mack was a particularly good coach. Xavier has recruited really well under him. Lots of talent. But he doesn't seem to be some brilliant tactician or an innovator.

My hope is that this doesn't lead to transfers. I think you have a lot of great building blocks in place. I honestly think if this Steele is as good as people say, your program can take a step forward from this move, not a step backwards.

Good luck.

1. Top ten Program and chance to coach against the bluest of the blue bloods every year in KY, Duke and UNC
2. Best college facilities in America
3. One of the best fanbases in America...fill a 22k arena
4. lots of money

I agree though regarding Mack. Think he was a good, not great coach. I think he is 50-50 on surviving at Louisville.

[Lloyd Braun]

The “best facilities” argument is overblown by a lot. Have you been inside Cintas? As in deep inside Cintas? Underground in Cintas? The place is beautifull and to say he left in part due to better facilities is a giant reach.

[drudy23]

Mack was the best tactical X and O coach they've ever had on the offensive end. Hand's down.

Defense...there have been better. I'd rather have an offensive minded coach any day of the week.

Overall, probably a toss up between him and Miller.

[SemajParlor]

Louisville doesn't have pro sports, the city is irrelevant outside of the first Saturday in May. Let them have their our facilities are so superior argument.

[GoMuskies]

Louisville doesn't have pro sports, the city is irrelevant outside of the first Saturday in May. Let them have their our facilities are so superior argument.

I love the hate offs between mid-sized midwestern cities.

[SemajParlor]

I love the hate offs between mid-sized midwestern cities.

Don't live in either. Might as well lob missiles from afar.

[dubbledxu]

I’ll be pretty disappointed if Mack doesn’t come out to his opening presser like this

https://youtu.be/mff3w2o-A7c

[Muskie in dayton]

You know that he's been living with Christi for a while now, right?
LOL! How quickly we turn. Maybe X and VD fans will join as one. I just threw up in my mouth.

[JTG]

So wrong, but hilarious..............

The brawl was his fault, the rest of it, no. Those guys should have been on the bench at that point of the game.

[_LH]

The brawl was his fault, the rest of it, no. Those guys should have been on the bench at that point of the game.

The brawl was Yancy Gates's fault. Mack should have had the starters on the bench at that time though but Mack is not to blame for Yancy raising the stakes once the scuffle started.

[D-West & PO-Z]

The brawl was his fault, the rest of it, no. Those guys should have been on the bench at that point of the game.

That is not where I find fault with Mack in that situation.

The fault was Mack and anyone else who had the power to realize and not send those guys out for media interviews. That was so stupid.

[_LH]

That is not where I find fault with Mack in that situation.

The fault was Mack and anyone else who had the power to realize and not send those guys out for media interviews. That was so stupid.

Agreed.

[Xville]

The “best facilities” argument is overblown by a lot. Have you been inside Cintas? As in deep inside Cintas? Underground in Cintas? The place is beautifull and to say he left in part due to better facilities is a giant reach.

Sorry but seriously? Have you ever been to the Yum Center? Take Cintas and double it. Im sorry but this is ridiculous. Cintas is nice, very nice, but Yum is what most NBA teams would consider an upgrade to their own facilities.

[Xville]

Louisville doesn't have pro sports, the city is irrelevant outside of the first Saturday in May. Let them have their our facilities are so superior argument.

Because Cincinnati is a mecca...i mean come on...people dogging on Louisville when Xavier is in Cincinnati is ridiculous. If you want to compare Louisville to Chicago or any city in the eastern or western part of the US I absolutely agree, but when is the city of Cincinnati ever relevant? Give me a break.

[SemajParlor]

It's not really people. It was me, and it was a joke. Lighten up with the Louisville love we get it

[OTRMUSKIE]

I am not sure why everybody is still upset. Mack wasn’t that great of a coach. He probably knew that and because he loved
Xavier so much he decided to leave it in better hands. That’s what I believe. Mack
Wanted a challenge. Losing to Nova and choking in the dance gets old. He needs to feel alive again.

[OTRMUSKIE]

I like Louisville a lot but I wouldn’t compare it to Cincy. Louisville, Toledo, Akron, Dayton are on the same scale.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

People need to understand that he is an adult with a family and a career and he made his choice. I respect that.

Time for X to move on just as he is. I agree though, a great coach would not have come out in that FSU game and crapped the bed.


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[Lamont Sanford]

Does anyone know if CM had a buyout clause in his contract? Is X gonna get anything from UofL?

OTR is absolutely killing it! Keep it up!

[MHettel]

Free KFC?

[GoMuskies]

Free KFC?

That includes Taco Bell and Long John Silver, too!

[Lloyd Braun]

Sorry but seriously? Have you ever been to the Yum Center? Take Cintas and double it. Im sorry but this is ridiculous. Cintas is nice, very nice, but Yum is what most NBA teams would consider an upgrade to their own facilities.

Yes I am aware it’s double in size but that’s not the point. I doubt CM favored the facilities more than the salary and “prestige” upgrade that’s all.

[birdman71]

All this he's a traitor! He's not such a great coach! We didn't do well under him!, etc. I don't get it.
Leaving for a job that doubles your salary is what most of these posters would do in their own jobs at his age, experience and family status. Good for us who would have stayed, but don't blame him for not.
He is an outstanding coach. We won the regular season of a top conference this year and have been consistently competitive in conferences and post season.
I also don't get that he's not good enough for us because he has kept us waiting for an NC under his watch for a whole 9 years! I crave one, but look at the list of winners over the last 50 years and ask yourselves if we should really DEMAND one.
Do you think Louisville doesn't know what it's doing? They have decided he is a top coach and I am guessing they vetted him for professionalism and coaching cleanliness. At this point they have to change their stripes.
Don't underestimate the lure of a better chance of an NC at L'ville. Top performers are driven, competitive and aggressive.
In 9 years, he has not embarrassed Xavier, the Big East or college basketball.
I thank him for his years as a player, an alum, an assistant and a head coach.
If you don't believe me check Macura's tweet.
Let's quit obsessing over his exit, thank him, wish him success and move on to an even better program.

[Dmartin]

One of the ESPNU guys mentioned when he heard Mack was interviewing with Louisville how fickle college coaches are, then posed the question "If Xavier had went to another Elite 8 or Final Four would he be interviewing? Probably not.

Another question comes to mind, how much money do you need? That question is personal but almost everyone can live well on say 200,000. He was making 10 times that!

[boozehound]

All this he's a traitor! He's not such a great coach! We didn't do well under him!, etc. I don't get it.
Leaving for a job that doubles your salary is what most of these posters would do in their own jobs at his age, experience and family status. Good for us who would have stayed, but don't blame him for not.
He is an outstanding coach. We won the regular season of a top conference this year and have been consistently competitive in conferences and post season.

This is largely accurate, but there have been ups and downs. Not extreme ups and downs, but ups and downs. Many have called for his head at various times, so it's not like the entire fan base accepted his greatness without question over the years.


I also don't get that he's not good enough for us because he has kept us waiting for an NC under his watch for a whole 9 years! I crave one, but look at the list of winners over the last 50 years and ask yourselves if we should really DEMAND one.

I agree. Our expectations are at (many) time unrealistic.


Do you think Louisville doesn't know what it's doing? They have decided he is a top coach and I am guessing they vetted him for professionalism and coaching cleanliness. At this point they have to change their stripes.

I don't know why we would assume that Louisville knows what they are doing or that they have vetted him for cleanliness. They seem like kind of a shit show at the moment, to be honest. Although I do think he is a clean coach, and a good coach. Just maybe not a great coach.


Don't underestimate the lure of a better chance of an NC at L'ville. Top performers are driven, competitive and aggressive.
In 9 years, he has not embarrassed Xavier, the Big East or college basketball.
I thank him for his years as a player, an alum, an assistant and a head coach.
If you don't believe me check Macura's tweet.
Let's quit obsessing over his exit, thank him, wish him success and move on to an even better program.

I would agree with some of this, but I'm not sure that JP Macura sending out a tweet really means anything to me. JP is a graduating Senior. Q, Naji, etc. probably have different feelings about Coach Mack right now based in their situations.

[Xville]

Yes I am aware it’s double in size but that’s not the point. I doubt CM favored the facilities more than the salary and “prestige” upgrade that’s all.

Facilities are kind of a big deal to recruits....(insert hooker joke here) so im sure the fact that Louisville has the best facilities around played a part.

Of course salary is a component, but if that was that high on the list for Mack, he would have left for Ohio State, Indiana or the other numerous job opportunities that were presented to him.

[Xville]

All this he's a traitor! He's not such a great coach! We didn't do well under him!, etc. I don't get it.
Leaving for a job that doubles your salary is what most of these posters would do in their own jobs at his age, experience and family status. Good for us who would have stayed, but don't blame him for not.
He is an outstanding coach. We won the regular season of a top conference this year and have been consistently competitive in conferences and post season.
I also don't get that he's not good enough for us because he has kept us waiting for an NC under his watch for a whole 9 years! I crave one, but look at the list of winners over the last 50 years and ask yourselves if we should really DEMAND one.
Do you think Louisville doesn't know what it's doing? They have decided he is a top coach and I am guessing they vetted him for professionalism and coaching cleanliness. At this point they have to change their stripes.
Don't underestimate the lure of a better chance of an NC at L'ville. Top performers are driven, competitive and aggressive.
In 9 years, he has not embarrassed Xavier, the Big East or college basketball.
I thank him for his years as a player, an alum, an assistant and a head coach.
If you don't believe me check Macura's tweet.
Let's quit obsessing over his exit, thank him, wish him success and move on to an even better program.

you sure about that one? How about his part in our favorite news conference.

[paulxu]

I would agree with some of this, but I'm not sure that JP Macura sending out a tweet really means anything to me. JP is a graduating Senior. Q, Naji, etc. probably have different feelings about Coach Mack right now based in their situations.


Quentin Goodin
‏ @quentingoodin
20h20 hours ago

Thank You @CoachChrisMack .
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[jhelmes37]

That question is personal but almost everyone can live well on say 200,000. He was making 10 times that!

I have a good buddy who is a UL fan and we were talking about that last night.

He says: "Dude, it's hard to turn down a few million."

I said: "Yeah, but X offered him 3. That's a crazy sum of money. If he truly loved x like he said, he would have stayed."

Friend: "Cash talks, man."

Me: "Dude, 3 million is $250,000............PER MONTH. Per freaking MONTH. Your paychecks will read $250,000.00."

It's just an insane amount of money, even if it's not 4-5..........

[Drew]

I have a good buddy who is a UL fan and we were talking about that last night.

He says: "Dude, it's hard to turn down a few million."

I said: "Yeah, but X offered him 3. That's a crazy sum of money. If he truly loved x like he said, he would have stayed."

Friend: "Cash talks, man."

Me: "Dude, 3 million is $250,000............PER MONTH. Per freaking MONTH. Your paychecks will read $250,000.00."

It's just an insane amount of money, even if it's not 4-5..........

Jesus, I have never thought about it like that. Absolutely disgusting.

[dubbledxu]

Money means different things to everyone. This is generational money we are talking, his kids and grand kids will be set. Not to mention the impact that money could have on causes close to him and his family. I dont begrudge anyone over money, ever. Its the "want to make a FF," "I need a new challenge", etc that I dont buy.

And yes, Im surprised hes "only" getting 1M more than supposedly we offered. But $1M over 7 years plus likely higher incentives, adds up.

[Drew]

Money means different things to everyone. This is generational money we are talking, his kids and grand kids will be set. Not to mention the impact that money could have on causes close to him and his family.


What is that supposed to mean? Do the rest of us not making 7 figures not want our kids and their kids to be set? 7 figures is just a ridiculous amount of money to be coaching a basketball team. I don't know how it can be spun any other way.

[drudy23]

Money doesn't equal happiness, but it does allow freedom, and freedom is what we're all looking for. Now he's even more free than he was before.

[jhelmes37]

Money doesn't equal happiness, but it does allow freedom, and freedom is what we're all looking for. Now he's even more free than he was before.

I mean........I agree with you. That's exactly how I view money.

But to think he would be "shackled" by $3 million is a bit misguided, no?

[xudash]

Money means different things to everyone. This is generational money we are talking, his kids and grand kids will be set. Not to mention the impact that money could have on causes close to him and his family. I dont begrudge anyone over money, ever. Its the "want to make a FF," "I need a new challenge", etc that I dont buy.

And yes, Im surprised hes "only" getting 1M more than supposedly we offered. But $1M over 7 years plus likely higher incentives, adds up.

Well, as an aside, only if they're smart and responsible. If that becomes problematic, they had better consider trust funds.

[dubbledxu]

What is that supposed to mean? Do the rest of us not making 7 figures not want our kids and their kids to be set? 7 figures is just a ridiculous amount of money to be coaching a basketball team. I don't know how it can be spun any other way.

50K seems like alot of money to someone making 25K, but not someone making 250K. The head coach does far more than "coach a basketball team." IF the schools offer 7 figures to them, should they turn it down and take 50K?


Someone making 30K as a teacher can say that "we" shouldnt make 100K to work IT/finance/etc.

[paulxu]

Perspective: my buddy in Cinti is an insurance agent and had Andrew Norwell insured. He was with the Panthers last year making something like $500K/yr.

He just signed for $13 million/year with Jacksonville. ($15 M signing bonus/$30 M of deal guaranteed) 5 year deal, $66.5 M total)

He's one guard, on one of 32 pro teams. I went into the wrong business. Should have been an agent.

[XUBison]

Ugh... Are we going to have page after page again going back and forth on the value of money? This analogy vs that analogy, blah blah blah. Money is awesome. I want lots of it. Good for you if you don’t, but I don’t care. More please.

[BCole4Life]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-coaching-carousel-louisville-hires-xaviers-chris-mack-pitt-plucks-jeff-capel-from-duke/

"The worst kept secret in college basketball went official on Tuesday when word came out that Mack agreed to terms with the Cardinals."

Don't you all feel like dopes for speculating if he would or wouldn't leave for the last 10 days? I certainly do.

This was going to happen before the season started, and all but signed during the BE tourney.

[JTG]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-coaching-carousel-louisville-hires-xaviers-chris-mack-pitt-plucks-jeff-capel-from-duke/

"The worst kept secret in college basketball went official on Tuesday when word came out that Mack agreed to terms with the Cardinals."

Don't you all feel like dopes for speculating if he would or wouldn't leave for the last 10 days? I certainly do.

This was going to happen before the season started, and all but signed during the BE tourney.

This whole saga has kind of been like traveling in first class on the Titanic..."Wow what a wonderful ship, too bad the sonofabitch is gonna sink ".

[whopper]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/college-basketball-coaching-carousel-louisville-hires-xaviers-chris-mack-pitt-plucks-jeff-capel-from-duke/

"The worst kept secret in college basketball went official on Tuesday when word came out that Mack agreed to terms with the Cardinals."

Don't you all feel like dopes for speculating if he would or wouldn't leave for the last 10 days? I certainly do.

This was going to happen before the season started, and all but signed during the BE tourney.

Good luck to him..I just wonder what would have happened if we held on the 11 pt lead at the 9 min mark against FSU, beat Tillie less Gonzaga, and squeaked by Michigan. As stupid as this seems (and I know it is stupid) would this have happened anyway? Damn and I am on my way from Conn to Cincinnati for Easter(visiting my 2 daughters) and I dreamed of watching final 4 game on Jumbrotron at Cintas. What a world, I was even getting attached to Evan Bordeaux and calling him a Andrew Charbarz like player. I need to get a life

[MITTENMUSKIE16]

Mack supposedly said in his presser that he "reached out to Pitino... twice. He's been great."

...

[GoMuskies]

Mack supposedly said in his presser that he "reached out to Pitino... twice

Careful when reaching out to Pitino twice. That's probably enough to get him off.

[Xavier]

I think Mack really wanted to put his final stamp on Xavier by bringing first final four. I guess if he won a NC it would be tough to leave but wouldn’t surprise me either. I think Mack has known for awhile he was leaving after this year (and no, I don’t think it affected his coaching one bit)

[Blue Blooded-05]

Careful when reaching out to Pitino twice. That's probably enough to get him off.

The man won’t let me rep you. But thanks for the laugh.

[XUBison]

Chris also said at his presser that, in order to fully embrace the UL culture, he’s officially changing his last name to Mackitino.

[paulxu]

Watched a little of the press conference.
All I could think about was the video last week of him and Christi and always wearing blue shirts...never white.

[Lloyd Braun]

Watched a little of the press conference.
All I could think about was the video last week of him and Christi and always wearing blue shirts...never white.

Haha I had the same thought. Seeing his family in red/Black was nightmarish. Literally ANY OTHER color scheme would be ok.

[HenryMuto]

Sad

[jhelmes37]

I have almost reached acceptance.

Watching the family in all that red shit was tough to stomach.

That's the worst part - the whole "shaking hands and kissing babies" song and dance routine.

"Blah, blah, blah, this is the greatest place ever, blah, blah, blah."

When he said "the only way I'll leave Louisville is to retire or be fired", I nearly threw up.

Bye, bye, and good riddance.

[xudash]

Imagine that it's 2025.

Xavier has since won a NC.

Mack accomplished whatever he accomplished at a tainted school, but retired from coaching to get into broadcasting, joining FoxSports.

He lands a broadcasting assignment at the Cintas Center for Xavier versus Georgetown in a Top 5 match-up to kick off the Big East season that winter. In effect, he is Gillen.2: a former Xavier coach who left for another school who went on to a broadcast career. The difference here is that Gillen left appropriately. Whatever.

Now, what kind of reception does he receive in the Cintas Center for that game?

[D-West & PO-Z]

Imagine that it's 2025.

Xavier has since won a NC.

Mack accomplished whatever he accomplished at a tainted school, but retired from coaching to get into broadcasting, joining FoxSports.

He lands a broadcasting assignment at the Cintas Center for Xavier versus Georgetown in a Top 5 match-up to kick off the Big East season that winter. In effect, he is Gillen.2: a former Xavier coach who left for another school who went on to a broadcast career. The difference here is that Gillen left appropriately. Whatever.

Now, what kind of reception does he receive in the Cintas Center for that game?

IF we've won a NC? A standing O.

If we've struggled since his leaving, mixed at best.

[Caveat]

IF we've won a NC? A standing O.

If we've struggled since his leaving, mixed at best.

If we've won a NC? Outright indifference.

If we've struggled? Booed out of the building.

Mack turned his back on *his* school over a pay raise from $3M to $4M. There's no coming back from that, IMO.

[UCGRAD4X]

I'm not sure I will ever EVER cheer for him or Lewdville...EVER!


I have almost reached acceptance.

Watching the family in all that red shit was tough to stomach.

That's the worst part - the whole "shaking hands and kissing babies" song and dance routine.

"Blah, blah, blah, this is the greatest place ever, blah, blah, blah."

When he said "the only way I'll leave Louisville is to retire or be fired", I nearly threw up.

Bye, bye, and good riddance.

Cudos to you for getting there without professional help (I assume).

As for me, I am no where close.

I am still utterly bewildered why Chris Mack, of all people/coaches, this Cincinnati born bred and raised, Xavier guy all the way (so we/I presumed) would leave a program with, clearly, an upward trajectory, for Lewdville (expletives and disparagement previously espoused).

I really and truly just don't get it.

Retire as a god at Xavier or walk in the shadow of Denny Crum and the most recent administration's dumpster fire, subsequent penalty and recruiting nightmares (and, to a lesser degree perhaps, competing with the football program).

I don't believe it was the $$$$ - although I'm sure it was a sweetener.

Honestly, I really am bitter and bewildered.

I know I/we don't really deserve an explanation from Mack, he's a professional and it is his business and his prerogative to move on without our approval.

Then again, in essence, we pay (paid) a good deal of his salary.

I WANT ANSWERS!!!!

As I said, I haven't necessarily accepted it, but it is time to move on....I think.

[Cheesehead]

Mack supposedly said in his presser that he "reached out to Pitino... twice. He's been great."

...

That's true. I watched the presser.

[OTRMUSKIE]

The guy couldn’t get the recruits he wanted here. He saw Louisville as a challenge. To be able to coach against UK, DUKE, UNC every year was probably exciting as hell. Seriously it’s time to get over Mack, he did is a huge favor and honestly he needed to go. The guy wasn’t that great of a coach. I’m telling you right now that Travis is going to be fantastic and he won’t be here long.

[JTG]

I’m telling you right now that Travis is going to be fantastic and he won’t be here long.
This really isn't the week to be using this phraseology. He may be here for some time. He stuck around as Mack's assistant for 9 years.

[Masterofreality]

Mack supposedly said in his presser that he "reached out to Pitino... twice. He's been great."

...

Well, when you lie down with pigs, you get slopped. Hopefully Mack's career will drown in it.

[dubbledxu]

The guy couldn’t get the recruits he wanted here. He saw Louisville as a challenge. To be able to coach against UK, DUKE, UNC every year was probably exciting as hell. Seriously it’s time to get over Mack, he did is a huge favor and honestly he needed to go. The guy wasn’t that great of a coach. I’m telling you right now that Travis is going to be fantastic and he won’t be here long.

I agree with this, but he had enough of a challenge in keeping it within 20 against Villanova. 1-10 in his career? He was far from running out of things to accomplish here.

[BandAid]

The guy couldn’t get the recruits he wanted here. He saw Louisville as a challenge. To be able to coach against UK, DUKE, UNC every year was probably exciting as hell. Seriously it’s time to get over Mack, he did is a huge favor and honestly he needed to go. The guy wasn’t that great of a coach. I’m telling you right now that Travis is going to be fantastic and he won’t be here long.

I disagree with this statement. Nearly all the guys he's offered since being at Louisville were the same kids he was targeting at X. And if he lands more than one of them, I'll be impressed.

[BandAid]

In related news, I've decided to boycott Pizza Hut, Taco Bell, and KFC. I haven't eaten at a Pizza Hut or KFC in years, but now I have a reason not to. Taco Bell might be a challenge. I'll just have to make sure to eat before one in the morning from now on.

[Backyard Champ]

Comes down to this: I want Mack to do well, just not better than Xavier. I want him to beat UK every year.

Strangely though, if Miller is coaching against Mack, I'd cheer for Miller to win. Not sure why I feel that way, probably because Mack is so close while Miller is across the country. Well, also because Miller and Mack left under different circumstances. Miller leaving is far more understandable than Mack.

[Caveat]

Comes down to this: I want Mack to do well, just not better than Xavier. I want him to beat UK every year.

Strangely though, if Miller is coaching against Mack, I'd cheer for Miller to win. Not sure why I feel that way, probably because Mack is so close while Miller is across the country. Well, also because Miller and Mack left under different circumstances. Miller leaving is far more understandable than Mack.

Honestly? I'm petty, and I hope for the same thing for ever coach that leaves Xavier: I want him to spend sleepless nights regretting the decision to leave.

[GoMuskies]

Honestly? I'm petty, and I hope for the same thing for ever coach that leaves Xavier: I want him to spend sleepless nights regretting the decision to leave.

Agree. Except for Skip Prosser. I always wanted him to do well, because he was a great dude....and because I wanted him to leave.

[IM4X]

Couldn't believe in his Introduction speech how Mack went off on how great of a coach Pitino is yet made Crum (who was a legend there for so many years) look foolish.... actually bragging about how when he was an assistant under Prosser at X... he gave Skip the brilliant idea that allowed them to beat a Louisville team back when Crum was the HC.

Way to make yourself look superior at the expense of a legend at your new school. I mean Crum was nice enough to show up to see you introduced as Louisville's next head coach and your only way to return your respect is to make yourself look better than him. What a classless act Chris... shows your true colors.

More than a handful of times during his speech, Mack made comments or gave responses that just helped remind me how arrogant and egocentric a person he really is. Until you've gotten a national championship or at least made it to the final four coach... you ought to remain humble... Look at Wright, someone who is so much more accomplished than you and he is still 10 times more respectful and modest.

By the way what was with that story about his dad grabbing him after the soccer game when he was a kid for kicking the ball like a brat... His dad was like "come on, we're out of here... instead of making him stand in line and shake hands... what kind of great lesson is that... no wonder he acts the way he does.

I hope we find a coach capable of improvimg upon Mack's accomplishments at X, I feel certain we will find someone with more class and selflessness.

[BCole4Life]

Couldn't believe in his Introduction speech how Mack went off on how great of a coach Pitino is yet made Crum (who was a legend there for so many years) look foolish.... actually bragging about how when he was an assistant under Prosser at X... he gave Skip the brilliant idea that allowed them to beat a Louisville team back when Crum was the HC.

Way to make yourself look superior at the expense of a legend at your new school. I mean Crum was nice enough to show up to see you introduced as Louisville's next head coach and your only way to return your respect is to make yourself look better than him. What a classless act Chris... shows your true colors.

More than a handful of times during his speech, Mack made comments or gave responses that just helped remind me how arrogant and egocentric a person he really is. Until you've gotten a national championship or at least made it to the final four coach... you ought to remain humble... Look at Wright, someone who is so much more accomplished than you and he is still 10 times more respectful and modest.

By the way what was with that story about his dad grabbing him after the soccer game when he was a kid for kicking the ball like a brat... His dad was like "come on, we're out of here... instead of making him stand in line and shake hands... what kind of great lesson is that... no wonder he acts the way he does.

I hope we find a coach capable of improvimg upon Mack's accomplishments at X, I feel certain we will find someone with more class and selflessness.


Wow you are really grasping at straws here and just bitter.

The Alaska Shootout story was fun and a relateable way into building a connection with fans and the audience. That's public speaking 101.

And pointing to his father's approach to parenting 40 or so years ago as a potential reason why hes got an ego... please.

[xnatic03]

Wow you are really grasping at straws here and just bitter.

The Alaska Shootout story was fun and a relateable way into building a connection with fans and the audience. That's public speaking 101.

And pointing to his father's approach to parenting 40 or so years ago as a potential reason why hes got an ego... please.

Agreed BCole.

[GoMuskies]

Wow you are really grasping at straws here and just bitter.

The Alaska Shootout story was fun and a relateable way into building a connection with fans and the audience. That's public speaking 101.

And pointing to his father's approach to parenting 40 or so years ago as a potential reason why hes got an ego... please.

Why didn't Mack give Skip a secret the next night that would have prevented Kansas from beating us by 40?

[D-West & PO-Z]

Couldn't believe in his Introduction speech how Mack went off on how great of a coach Pitino is yet made Crum (who was a legend there for so many years) look foolish.... actually bragging about how when he was an assistant under Prosser at X... he gave Skip the brilliant idea that allowed them to beat a Louisville team back when Crum was the HC.

Way to make yourself look superior at the expense of a legend at your new school. I mean Crum was nice enough to show up to see you introduced as Louisville's next head coach and your only way to return your respect is to make yourself look better than him. What a classless act Chris... shows your true colors.

More than a handful of times during his speech, Mack made comments or gave responses that just helped remind me how arrogant and egocentric a person he really is. Until you've gotten a national championship or at least made it to the final four coach... you ought to remain humble... Look at Wright, someone who is so much more accomplished than you and he is still 10 times more respectful and modest.

By the way what was with that story about his dad grabbing him after the soccer game when he was a kid for kicking the ball like a brat... His dad was like "come on, we're out of here... instead of making him stand in line and shake hands... what kind of great lesson is that... no wonder he acts the way he does.

I hope we find a coach capable of improvimg upon Mack's accomplishments at X, I feel certain we will find someone with more class and selflessness.

I'm as mad as anyone about him leaving and I do not wish Louisville success. However this is just grasping at straws like the other poster said. I watched that press conference (dont know why) and did not think Mack was being classless or superior at all. The story was funny and Mack is a fairly self deprecating guy. He specifically mentioned how his dad taught him to stand in line and shake hands and be a good sport.

[dubbledxu]

I wish Mack limited success, the kind where he gets owned by the upper tier and beats the lower tier teams he plays. It will get him a few million in the bank and his career will be no more advanced than it is now.

[Xville]

I wish Mack limited success, the kind where he gets owned by the upper tier and beats the lower tier teams he plays. It will get him a few million in the bank and his career will be no more advanced than it is now.

So basically what he was at xavier? People here are ecstatic about him right now....I think they are in for a rude awakening when he gets owned against coach k, williams, boeheim, bennett and all the other great coaches in that league. Big east is a good league but it doesn't touch the knowledge the coaches have in the upper tier of the acc.

[dubbledxu]

So basically what he was at xavier? People here are ecstatic about him right now....I think they are in for a rude awakening when he gets owned against coach k, williams, boeheim, bennett and all the other great coaches in that league. Big east is a good league but it doesn't touch the knowledge the coaches have in the upper tier of the acc.

Yes, but he’d be unemployed and hoping for a job like XU again. The natives will not tolerate anything close to the 1-10 record he had vs wright. Hell, they’ll be calling for his head if he starts off 0-2 against Cal and UK

[Nigel Tufnel]

I'm as mad as anyone about him leaving and I do not wish Louisville success. However this is just grasping at straws like the other poster said. I watched that press conference (dont know why) and did not think Mack was being classless or superior at all. The story was funny and Mack is a fairly self deprecating guy. He specifically mentioned how his dad taught him to stand in line and shake hands and be a good sport.

That last comment was the first shot across the bow. That was 100% Mack poking the bear.

[JTG]

Honestly? I'm petty, and I hope for the same thing for ever coach that leaves Xavier: I want him to spend sleepless nights regretting the decision to leave.

You mean like Sean Miller for the past 6 months ?

[Masterofreality]

Honestly? I'm petty, and I hope for the same thing for ever coach that leaves Xavier: I want him to spend sleepless nights regretting the decision to leave.


Agree. Except for Skip Prosser. I always wanted him to do well, because he was a great dude....and because I wanted him to leave.

Both of these. And they ARE like the other.

[IM4X]

Wow you are really grasping at straws here and just bitter.

The Alaska Shootout story was fun and a relateable way into building a connection with fans and the audience. That's public speaking 101.

And pointing to his father's approach to parenting 40 or so years ago as a potential reason why hes got an ego... please.

No... I am am not just bitter. You sound like a Louisville fan or maybe a protective relative of Mack's... and that's fine if you are.

Look... He had his moments where he handle questions well and connected in a humorous way. I am also aware he thanked people at X for giving him an opportunity to be HC. I want to try to be fair about that. I don't have any ill will towards the guy... just saying he had a handful of moments where he came across a little full of himself.

[GoMuskies]

Crum seems to like him....but Crum was going to like pretty much ANYONE after that last guy.

[IM4X]

I'm as mad as anyone about him leaving and I do not wish Louisville success. However this is just grasping at straws like the other poster said. I watched that press conference (dont know why) and did not think Mack was being classless or superior at all. The story was funny and Mack is a fairly self deprecating guy. He specifically mentioned how his dad taught him to stand in line and shake hands and be a good sport.

Not sure why you did not see what I saw... that's okay.

Again, I think he handled responses well and he did have a few humorous moments, but he certainly also had moments where he was trying to pump himself up unnecessarily. Not sure how you missed them.

Also... I got to say I honestly don't see Mack as all that self deprecating.

[BCole4Life]

nah. im friggen pissed. ive been moping and reading this message board and twitter for WAYYYYY too long the last week as a place to cope and bitch about being the little guy getting left behind yet again.

been questioning my priorities in life based on how upset this has made me (an adult), but i also and not going to be unrealistic and twist everything into a negative at an introductory press conference meant to spark blind optimism and connection with a new community.

[Emp]

At long last, it's clear there is not even a vestige of decency. Left on this board. Mack has spent half his life at Xavier. He was The Man in the Arena, while posters here snipped, griped, cat called and demeaned him. And now his wife, his kids? Really?

This board is full of hateful, nasty sentiment toward a man....a Xavier grad, Xavier's greatest winner, because he doesn't want to give Xavier his entire life.

There is no satisfying "Xavier Nation." There isn't a gracious, thankful bone in our entitled bodies. Every nuance is given a negative spin.

I can't read this litany of tantrums any more. We cannibalize and devour every single cformer coach, even one of our own. I can't hang with this horseshit any more.

All you cruel girls at the Neg Rep table, go ahead. Work it out on my rep. Your bent and crippled psyches will feel better. Then you can whisper and gossip in your little secret room and decide who else you're going after. I'll be gone looking for a place where there is some semblance of happiness and self respect left in this beautiful World that is college basketball.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

I agree, thank him for his time and we move on. This hateful crap serves no purpose other than to vent disappointment. Better to just accept it and cheer the next coach up.


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[LadyMuskie]

At long last, it's clear there is not even a vestige of decency. Left on this board. Mack has spent half his life at Xavier. He was The Man in the Arena, while posters here snipped, griped, cat called and demeaned him. And now his wife, his kids? Really?

This board is full of hateful, nasty sentiment toward a man....a Xavier grad, Xavier's greatest winner, because he doesn't want to give Xavier his entire life.

There is no satisfying "Xavier Nation." There isn't a gracious, thankful bone in our entitled bodies. Every nuance is given a negative spin.

I can't read this litany of tantrums any more. We cannibalize and devour every single cformer coach, even one of our own. I can't hang with this horseshit any more.

All you cruel girls at the Neg Rep table, go ahead. Work it out on my rep. Your bent and crippled psyches will feel better. Then you can whisper and gossip in your little secret room and decide who else you're going after. I'll be gone looking for a place where there is some semblance of happiness and self respect left in this beautiful World that is college basketball.

These are my favorite kinds of posts. You're fanning wrong! You're being nasty you (insert name calling here.) You're all a bunch of (insert more name calling here.)

No one is forcing you to read anything. If you think any other fan base is any better, then you're nuts. Really, if you think any other place on the internet is any better, then you're nuts.

As for Mack being one of us, he left us. He chose over us and is now at his dream job. He is not one of us. He is one of them. He didn't want to play at Evansville, and probably didn't want to play at X either, but we were the only school to offer him. Now he's finally where he wants to be . . . his wife's hometown. How full circle it supposedly is!