Who do we want as our Head Coach next year?

[OTRMUSKIE]

Well might as well start having fun with this. Even if Mack stays it’s always fun to speculate. But with that said here is who I want.

1. Mack (I want stability and he gives us that, plus he really is a good coach)

2. Sean Miller ( IMO the best coach ever at X. I think he would stay for a very long time)

3. Travis Steele (He is young and he would keep the current players I believe)

4. Luke Murray (Same as Steele plus his Dad is funny)

5. Pat Kelsey (He has proven to be a good coach and maybe he would stay forever)

6. Mark Schmidt (you can only weld so long in ORLEAN)

7. Loyola/Nevada Head coach

8. Thad Matta (only 50 and the guy did make it to the final 4 twice?)

9. Brian Gregory/Jim O’Brien ( those guys suck but keep getting jobs so let’s keep the tradition alive)

10.Rick Pitino( nothing would say F you to Louisville then to get this guy)

[GoMuskies]

My thoughts on your list.



1. Mack YES!!!!!!

2. Sean Miller YES!!!

3. Travis Steele Yes

4. Luke Murray No

5. Pat Kelsey NO!!!!!!!!!!!

6. Mark Schmidt No

7. Loyola/Nevada Head coach YES!

8. Thad Matta No

9. Brian Gregory/Jim O’Brien LOL

10.Rick Pitino NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

[dubbledxu]

Well might as well start having fun with this. Even if Mack stays it’s always fun to speculate. But with that said here is who I want.

1. Mack (I want stability and he gives us that, plus he really is a good coach)

2. Sean Miller ( IMO the best coach ever at X. I think he would stay for a very long time)

3. Travis Steele (He is young and he would keep the current players I believe)

4. Luke Murray (Same as Steele plus his Dad is funny)

5. Pat Kelsey (He has proven to be a good coach and maybe he would stay forever)

6. Mark Schmidt (you can only weld so long in ORLEAN)

7. Loyola/Nevada Head coach

8. Thad Matta (only 50 and the guy did make it to the final 4 twice?)

9. Brian Gregory/Jim O’Brien ( those guys suck but keep getting jobs so let’s keep the tradition alive)

10.Rick Pitino( nothing would say F you to Louisville then to get this guy)


I'd agree on 1-3 but put Matta #4. 9 and 10 made me laugh, might as well throw Cronin and Huggins in there at 11 and 12

[SemajParlor]

Why does Brian Gregory at Dayton feel like 20 years ago?

[xavierdude]

Big 'ol Nope to Nevada head coach. Guy was a mess. He would get on my nerves. Can't believe he didn't get T'ed up more often in Nashville.

Pat Kelsey? Nah. Too many question marks with his ability to mentally stay in it.

[BandAid]

1. Mack: Yes

2. Sean Miller: If he's clean.

3. Travis Steele: Sure

4. Luke Murray: Probs not

5. Pat Kelsey: Probs not

6. Mark Schmidt: Naw

7. Loyola/Nevada Head coach: Sure

8. Thad Matta: Naw

9. Brian Gregory/Jim O’Brien: Nope

10.Rick Pitino: I wouldn't watch a game as long a he's coach

11. John Brannen: Intrigued

[OTRMUSKIE]

No way you can move Matta to 4. He screwed us over pretty badly but I will forgive him if he still has that umbrella he was hiding under as he was on his way to take the OSU job. Pitino would really help with business at planned parenthood not to mention how many lucky young ladies finally get to have sex with a geriatric in a white suit.

[OTRMUSKIE]

John Brannon is an excellent choice but I think you have to go with an X guy first. Plus he looks like Gabe from “The Office” and I hated Gabe

[SemajParlor]

Outside of course Mack , I go to #2 which maybe not as ridiculous as some may think (?), and 3. Would rather have Steele take it if there's not a slam dunk elite coach popping out of nowhere. Couple of more Final 4 less seasons for Coach Cal and maybe Steele can take that job in 2022. FML.

[smileyy]

Travis Steele.

[GoMuskies]

If Miller is cleared and really IS available, would you prefer Steele over Miller?

[OTRMUSKIE]

From what I have heard in the vine, it sounds like Miller is definitely in-play. But yes I think you have to go with one of the top 3 and I think that’s who it will
Be. Although are you guys sure you don’t want The Prince?

[Xavier]

Outside of course Mack , I go to #2 which maybe not as ridiculous as some may think (?), and 3. Would rather have Steele take it if there's not a slam dunk elite coach popping out of nowhere. Couple of more Final 4 less seasons for Coach Cal and maybe Steele can take that job in 2022. FML.

Am I reading this right? You think Kentucky would offer Steele?

[SemajParlor]

I was just joking. Trying to make light of a pretty bad week for Xavier basketball.

[drudy23]

1. Brad Stevens (yeah, I know it's not gonna happen but it's my list)
2. Jay Wright
3. Sean Miller (I honestly don't think they'd pull the trigger on this)
4. CJ Anderson - haha

[SemajParlor]

Xavier rallying behind Sean Miller in a tournament game to take down the villain Chris Mack is something so unbelievably ridiculous we have no choice but to be for it.

[AviatorX]

I was just joking. Trying to make light of a pretty bad week for Xavier basketball.

Haha I'm with you.

Kinda like the old "you think Arizona wants Sean Miller?!" joke in 2005 or the "lol Chris Mack to Louisville?" line in 2009.

[Get Real]

I would submit-with the exception of Mack- that none of those on the aforementioned list would be viable candidates. Miller seems to have weathered the storm- for now, Steele; well there is a reason he has been turned down for numerous HC jobs, while the rest simply are not plausible. I expect Christopher to launch a nationwide search; hopefully with his own committee. Being an "X guy" should have little value in searching for a new HC. Xavier is likely to look at people like Gregg Marshall et. al. This hire-if Mack does leave- will be the most important decision since 1978 when they bought in Staak to build the program. I don't believe the Christopher will take long to name a HC as the program is now highly valued amongst D-1 coaches. Of course, this is all moot if Mack decides to stay.

[GoMuskies]

Xavier is likely to look at people like Gregg Marshall et. al. T

Xavier can't afford Gregg Marshall.

On Steele, I saw on Twitter that he was offered the Middle Tennessee job and turned it down.

[Xville]

If Miller is clear, id want him above all else. I think he's the best coach Xavier has ever had, and I feel for some reason, that he may regret his decision to leave. I don't have any evidence to back that up, just perception.

I think the guy would be beyond motivated to make a final four and make up for the way he left. Maybe this is all just bs and I'm being a hopeless romantic.

[IM4X]

From what I have heard in the vine, it sounds like Miller is definitely in-play. But yes I think you have to go with one of the top 3 and I think that’s who it will
Be. Although are you guys sure you don’t want The Prince?


Okay so people are hearing Miller is in-play for the X Job if he should leave and I hear people say Miller is in-play for the Pitt job...

what the heck am I missing... is there word that Arizona may fire him (between the wife tap stuff and his inability to reach the final 4).

And why do X fans want to take someone back who chose to leave saying the opportunity was better somewhere else... and by the way he already admitted that HE couldn't get X to the final 4... so if I am x I am saying "Thanks for the interest Sean... we'll be sure to keep you it resume on file should we ever be looking for someone just like you."

[SemajParlor]

and I feel for some reason, that he may regret his decision to leave. I don't have any evidence to back that up, just perception.

Might have something to do with him and his staff being wire tapped by the FBI.

[AviatorX]

Okay so people are hearing Miller is in-play for the X Job if he should leave and I hear people say Miller is in-play for the Pitt job...

what the heck am I missing... is there word that Arizona may fire him (between the wife tap stuff and his inability to reach the final 4).

And why do X fans want to take someone back who chose to leave saying the opportunity was better somewhere else... and by the way he already admitted that HE couldn't get X to the final 4... Thanks but no thanks to Sean.

Because he is one of the best coaches in college basketball.

[dubbledxu]

I want the best leader for our program moving forward, I’d gladly swallow my emotions and bitterness if Miller/Matta were to be that leader.

[Xavier]

Because he is one of the best coaches in college basketball.

Yep. That simple—and I’d imagine he would be as close to a “lifer” at Xavier as we can find. (Leaving for high profile job and wants to come back.)

Now- the obvious concern is what can come with the FBI investigation. Bottom line, no one will know what penalties Sean could be facing by the time X would have to hire him. It’s a risk, and I’d be ok with taking it I think.

[xudash]

Xavier rallying behind Sean Miller in a tournament game to take down the villain Chris Mack is something so unbelievably ridiculous we have no choice but to be for it.

If Sean Miller becomes our coach again, the richness of the narrative, beginning with the day of the announcement, will be something to behold.

The PR value to Xavier will be enormous.

Oh, and the VD idiots will freak out and, of course, yelp about Xavier hiring a corrupt coach and selling our soul.

[IM4X]

Because he is one of the best coaches in college basketball.

So what... so is Pitino... so do you want to put him in the mix too?

I don't know about you but I think of integrity and class when I think of my Xavier. If we loss that... it becomes one slippery slope that leads to... well Louisville.

[dubbledxu]

Miller earns 2.6M (plus incentives) per year at UA

[xudash]

Might have something to do with him and his staff being wire tapped by the FBI.

And because he was our coach at a time when our program was part of the A-10 and not the Big East. Obviously, things have dramatically changed.

( responded to the wrong post somehow. I meant to respond to the comment about why we would want him back after he had stated that he cannot get us to a Final Four).

[XUBison]

How could X possibly have enough time to properly vet Miller? Screw it, let’s roll the dice!

If not Miller, I want Porter Moser. I was honestly intrigued with him prior to the E8 run, not for X, but in general. Bringing Loyola from the depths is no joke. And no to assistants.

[XUOWNSUC]

I say hire Miller, Matta, AND Steele. It's time for the Super Team to assemble and deliver a National Championship to Xavier.

They can fight over who gets what title. Or maybe they can all be "Tri-Head Coach".

Get it done Christopher!




Fun Fact: Louisville has never beaten Xavier since I have been alive (X is 3-0).

[Xville]

Yep eff it...let's roll the dice and hope Miller is free and clear.

[BandAid]

Ridiculously Bold Prediction: Miller will be the next head coach of Xavier. Three years from now, Mack will be Associate Head Coach again. Also, I will be married to Margot Robbie at that time.

[LadyMuskie]

I say hire Miller, Matta, AND Steele. It's time for the Super Team to assemble and deliver a National Championship to Xavier.

They can fight over who gets what title. Or maybe they can all be "Tri-Head Coach".

Get it done Christopher!




Fun Fact: Louisville has never beaten Xavier since I have been alive (X is 3-0).

Let's build on this. Why stop at 3? And why have 3 separate people? Let's build a Frankencoach, where we combine all the best parts of available coaches as well as dead coaches, because the sky is the limit. We'll be unstoppable!! Unless, of course, there's fire. No more pyrotechnics before games!

[xudash]

Let's build on this. Why stop at 3? And why have 3 separate people? Let's build a Frankencoach, where we combine all the best parts of available coaches as well as dead coaches, because the sky is the limit. We'll be unstoppable!! Unless, of course, there's fire. No more pyrotechnics before games!

Who shall be named Frank Xavier.

[OTRMUSKIE]

2270

There you go bois!!!! That’s Miller and Beak nose morphed into super coach

[double00]

Hiring Miller would make the recruiting battles between Indiana and XU more interesting.

[XUBison]

Here’s my take on Steele... Xavier Has built a premiere program, and it can’t afford to let another guy learn on the job. I realize this has worked out before, but if it doesn’t work out this time, it will set X back for a long time. Simply saying he should get the job because it’s worked before is nonsense. There are only two objective reasons to consider him. Continuity being one, and the other being the implied seal of approval he gets by being Mack’s top guy. All of you asserting he should be the guy have nothing else to offer but hearsay, because you all fit into one of four categories:

1. You are fan rubes like me, who know nothing about Steele except that he’s the top assistant at X. In another thread, one poster admitted he just learned that Steele is a white guy, and another admitted he thought Sean Miller was someone else until he was introduced as the X head coach. Both very funny and honest concessions that made me lol, by the way, and I can’t say I knew any better.

2. You are a booster who rubs elbows with coaches, players, and admin at the occasional banquet, so you think those people are your good buddies, and that this somehow means you actually know something, but you don’t.

3. You work with the basketball program in some capacity, and you admire Steele as a co-worker or even a friend. Of course you would push for him.

4. You are a personal family Member or friend of Steele’s, so again, of course he’s your guy.

In any of these cases, your opinion of Steele is hollow or biased. This goes for Murray or anyone else on staff. If the admin decides Steele is the guy, then so be it, and I’ll trust that it will work out for the best. That said, I’ll have a hard time believing they go this route for any reason other than the discount it will provide.

[OTRMUSKIE]

I say Steele then.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Plus we could say he has Steele balls. Or he is made of Steele. Or Steele magnolias. I think that’s the reason I like him.

[smileyy]

If the admin decides Steele is the guy, then so be it, and I’ll trust that it will work out for the best. That said, I’ll have a hard time believing they go this route for any reason other than the discount it will provide.

I disagree. I think Xavier has built a process of constantly finding and grooming the next head coach (the guy in the Associate Head Coach position). That's been Miller and Mack in the past, and now Travis Steele. I think the administration trusts the process and I trust the administration. They've been right for over 30 years now.

[AviatorX]

Here’s my take on Steele... Xavier Has built a premiere program, and it can’t afford to let another guy learn on the job. I realize this has worked out before, but if it doesn’t work out this time, it will set X back for a long time. Simply saying he should get the job because it’s worked before is nonsense. There are only two objective reasons to consider him. Continuity being one, and the other being the implied seal of approval he gets by being Mack’s top guy. All of you asserting he should be the guy have nothing else to offer but hearsay, because you all fit into one of four categories:

1. You are fan rubes like me, who know nothing about Steele except that he’s the top assistant at X. In another thread, one poster admitted he just learned that Steele is a white guy, and another admitted he thought Sean Miller was someone else until he was introduced as the X head coach. Both very funny and honest concessions that made me lol, by the way, and I can’t say I knew any better.

2. You are a booster who rubs elbows with coaches, players, and admin at the occasional banquet, so you think those people are your good buddies, and that this somehow means you actually know something, but you don’t.

3. You work with the basketball program in some capacity, and you admire Steele as a co-worker or even a friend. Of course you would push for him.

4. You are a personal family Member or friend of Steele’s, so again, of course he’s your guy.

In any of these cases, your opinion of Steele is hollow or biased. This goes for Murray or anyone else on staff. If the admin decides Steele is the guy, then so be it, and I’ll trust that it will work out for the best. That said, I’ll have a hard time believing they go this route for any reason other than the discount it will provide.

Who are some good outside candidates?

[XUBison]

I say Steele then.

Okay, I’m sold.

[JTG]

Okay so people are hearing Miller is in-play for the X Job if he should leave and I hear people say Miller is in-play for the Pitt job...

what the heck am I missing... is there word that Arizona may fire him (between the wife tap stuff and his inability to reach the final 4).

And why do X fans want to take someone back who chose to leave saying the opportunity was better somewhere else."
That's because the opportunity was better at As. We were still in the A10, and no one had a clue the Big East was going to blow up. It's a different ballgame now. In fact, I think Miller regrets leaving for a myriad of reasons. I think X would be too nervous to hire Miller with all the ?? surrounding him. He IS a damn good coach, though.

[XUBison]

Who are some good outside candidates?

I’m big on Porter Moser, or what about Ben Jacobson from UNI? I think the opening would create major interest, especially if X is willing to put up $2M-$3M. Look, if no good outside candidates emerge, and if the admin thinks as highly of Steele as it is believed they do, then they should go with Steele. I just think there will be no shortage of good candidates if the money is there, maybe even including some names that would surprise. I think the fact we’re even half-heartedly talking about Matta or Miller returning gives you some indication.

[AviatorX]

I’m big on Porter Moser, or what about Ben Jacobson from UNI? I think the opening would create major interest, especially if X is willing to put up $2M-$3M. Look, if no good outside candidates emerge, and if the admin thinks as highly of Steele as it is believed they do, then they should go with Steele. I just think there will be no shortage of good candidates if the money is there, maybe even including some names that would surprise. I think the fact we’re even half-heartedly talking about Matta or Miller returning gives you some indication.

Yikes on those first two names. Noooooooo thanks.

[X Factor]

Who are some good outside candidates?

If X goes outside the program then I would look at Eric Musselman at Nevada (I mentioned him from the start) or Scott Drew at Baylor.

[Muskie]

Shut the front door. Scott Drew?


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[D-West & PO-Z]

If Miller is cleared and really IS available, would you prefer Steele over Miller?

Yes.

Is there any way he would be cleared that soon though? Probably not.

[Caveat]

I have a hard time believing Miller would come back.

Also, the reason you go with Steele is so you don’t lose a full recruiting class and/or see your underclassmen transfer away. That’s a major worry with going outside the program, especially to get a guy at a smaller program that will bring in exactly zero Big East caliber recruiting connections.

[X Factor]

Shut the front door. Scott Drew?


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Why? He's taken Baylor to 2 Elite Eights and 2 Sweet Sixteens. Baylor, a school that prior to Drew getting there, had only been the to the NCAA tournament 4 times in the history of the school!!

He's a midwest guy, graduated from Butler, and coached at Valpo.

I don't know what you have against him, but the dude can recruit and coach.

[AviatorX]

Why? He's taken Baylor to 2 Elite Eights and 2 Sweet Sixteens. Baylor, a school that prior to Drew getting there, had only been the to the NCAA tournament 4 times in the history of the school!!

He's a midwest guy, graduated from Butler, and coached at Valpo.

I don't know what you have against him, but the dude can recruit and coach.

I agree. Scott Drew is the first outside the box name that has any intrigue for me. I think he can coach. Not sure he'd be interested though.

I guess I could talk myself into Musselman.

[Muskie]

Didnt Scott Drew get busted for recruiting violations a few years back? Maybe I’m misremembering.


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[SemajParlor]

Didnt Scott Drew get busted for recruiting violations a few years back? Maybe I’m misremembering.


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No I think you're just remembering that he's a terrible coach.

[XUGRAD80]

Drew has been at Baylor for 15 years and makes 2.8 million per year. Took over a program that was in total shambles and certainly didn’t have a real history of being any type of basketball power. He has been very successful. Xavier would definitely have to pay up to get him to move and I’m not sure a 200K raise would do it alone. Having some ties to the Midwest, especially Indiana, might be enough incentive, but it’s easy to get used to those mild Texas winters.

[Backyard Champ]

If Mack is gone:

Dream world: Miller. If Miller came back, I think X doesn't miss a beat. I'd be extremely excited.

Next best: I'm going Steele.

[XUGRAD80]

Didnt Scott Drew get busted for recruiting violations a few years back? Maybe I’m misremembering.


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Possibly you are remembering that the FOOTBALL team at Baylor has had all kinds of scandals and problems?

[bleedXblue]

If Mack is gone:

Dream world: Miller. If Miller came back, I think X doesn't miss a beat. I'd be extremely excited.

Next best: I'm going Steele.

Yeah, odds of Miller coming back are about 1/1000.

[Muskie]

Possibly you are remembering that the FOOTBALL team at Baylor has had all kinds of scandals and problems?

Could have sworn he committed some recruiting violations similar to Kelvin Sampson. Maybe I’m wrong.


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[GIMMFD]

Possibly you are remembering that the FOOTBALL team at Baylor has had all kinds of scandals and problems?

Yeah that football program is a dumpster fire, but Scott Drew is intriguing, he's definitely brought a generally bad Baylor team some good success, they're recruiting at a high level and I think he's a DECENT coach. I just don't know, I think Steele being groomed to be the guy is an important thing, I'm sure he's ready after what? 4 years as Associate Head Coach, I'd love to keep our current guys on the roster, I'm really loving Naji, Scruggs, etc. in X uniforms and think they will be SCARY in a couple of years. I really hope that whatever happens, we stay on the right track into making a splash in the Big East, don't think I could handle us falling down to the level of St. John's and Georgetown right now.

[SemajParlor]

Muskie is correct. He definitely caught up in a recruiting scandal.

[XUGRAD80]

Muskie is correct. He definitely caught up in a recruiting scandal.

Yes...most of it revolves around hundreds and hundreds of extra phone calls. Result was loss of two scholarships and limiting of coaches recruiting.

Xavier needs to stay away IMO.

[XUGRAD80]

There are going to be A LOT of people interested in the job when it opens up, and I wouldn’t be surprised if there are some well known names cropping up. Just don’t make a hire because of the name....like Tubberville at UC. Don’t want someone that is looking for a path into retirement, but want someone that is still in persuit of greatness.

[usfldan]

This is from 2012:

https://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/10/sports/ncaabasketball/ncaa-report-lists-major-violations-for-baylor-basketball.html

[XUBison]

Yes...most of it revolves around hundreds and hundreds of extra phone calls. Result was loss of two scholarships and limiting of coaches recruiting.

Xavier needs to stay away IMO.

So, would you be in favor of bringing Miller back?

[Nigel Tufnel]

I’m conflicted. 99/100, I would just say Steele and the discussion would be over. But this Miller angle is interesting. I’m actually not sure I care about the bad PR or baggage with Miller. He’s a great coach. UC and UD fans already think X cheats. Just peruse their message boards. Everyone thinks UK, UNC, Kansas, Duke, Ville and MSU cheats. What’s actually come of that?

[XUBison]

How about Andy Enfield, Bobby Hurley, Chris Beard, or Frank Martin? I’d take Martin in a heartbeat.

[throwbackmuskie]

How about Andy Enfield, Bobby Hurley, Chris Beard, or Frank Martin? I’d take Martin in a heartbeat.

First, I still don't think Mack is leaving.

Second a big F NO to Martin. Total douche, can't recruit and not even worth a phone call.

[AviatorX]

First, I still don't think Mack is leaving.

Second a big F NO to Martin. Total douche, can't recruit and not even worth a phone call.

Any reason aside from blind optimism?

[D-West & PO-Z]

Yeah, odds of Miller coming back are about 1/1000.

So you're saying there's a chance?????

[drudy23]

Call me crazy (or stupid), but I don't think he's leaving either.

What we haven't heard AT ALL are the things X is doing to try to retain him. There's no way they're sitting around and twiddling their thumbs. He has too much respect for the school, his city, his alma mater, his assistants (whose lives would be uprooted as well) and everything they've done for him, not to entertain X's offer. The ties are too deep for him just to leave without listening to what X has to offer.

I don't think this is an easy decision at all for Mack. His girls are at an age where they are involved in a ton of things, he's the main man at X and has everything he needs, he's elevated the recruiting profile, and I think he wants more than anything to prove X can get to the top of the mountain. And...he wants to continue to own UC and Cronin in every way possible.

The money is too much not to listen to Louisville, but I just don't see him as the type to bolt for cash. He has alot vested in a really, really good program. He might leave, but it will be a very, very hard decision for him.

[throwbackmuskie]

Any reason aside from blind optimism?

Not blind optimism


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[D-West & PO-Z]

Not blind optimism


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He means more like any actual inside info, not the usual his hometown, alma mater, friends/family stuff here.

[JEHARDI]

Call me crazy (or stupid), but I don't think he's leaving either.

What we haven't heard AT ALL are the things X is doing to try to retain him. There's no way they're sitting around and twiddling their thumbs. He has too much respect for the school, his city, his alma mater, his assistants (whose lives would be uprooted as well) and everything they've done for him, not to entertain X's offer. The ties are too deep for him just to leave without listening to what X has to offer.

I don't think this is an easy decision at all for Mack. His girls are at an age where they are involved in a ton of things, he's the main man at X and has everything he needs, he's elevated the recruiting profile, and I think he wants more than anything to prove X can get to the top of the mountain. And...he wants to continue to own UC and Cronin in every way possible.

The money is too much not to listen to Louisville, but I just don't see him as the type to bolt for cash. He has alot vested in a really, really good program. He might leave, but it will be a very, very hard decision for him.

Well said. Being pursued raises his and Xavier's profile as well.

[throwbackmuskie]

He means more like any actual inside info, not the usual his hometown, alma mater, friends/family stuff here.

I know, not going to comment further for various reasons.


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[BandAid]

I know, not going to comment further for various reasons.

Throwbackmuskie is Mack. Mack is throwbackmuskie. Confirmed.

[throwbackmuskie]

Throwbackmuskie is Mack. Mack is throwbackmuskie. Confirmed.

On a serious note, didn’t Mack actually post here once?





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[drudy23]

He's lying in his Louisville hotel bed reading this right now.

Hi Coach. Stay with us.

[dubbledxu]

On a serious note, didn’t Mack actually post here once?





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He did, a rallying call a few years back. It was awesome.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Throwbackmuskie is Mack. Mack is throwbackmuskie. Confirmed.

HA, I thought this exact same thing!

[Backyard Champ]

He did, a rallying call a few years back. It was awesome.

Sometimes I think about that and think how far we've come. I could be off (probably am)

He did that for a huge home game, against Richmond. I think they were ranked between 20-25. Think about that for just a minute. And then think that posters are pissed that he let us down after he got us to a 2 seed, elite 8, then a 1 seed in three straight years. Mack has been huge for the program.

[throwbackmuskie]

Last thing I will say on this, I will be surprised if he leaves. IF he does, I am sure he has his reasons and it has really tore him up.


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[drudy23]

Sometimes I think about that and think how far we've come. I could be off (probably am)

He did that for a huge home game, against Richmond. I think they were ranked between 20-25. Think about that for just a minute. And then think that posters are pissed that he let us down after he got us to a 2 seed, elite 8, then a 1 seed in three straight years. Mack has been huge for the program.

More surprising...he posted here or Richmond was a top 25 team?

[waggy]

If it comes down to recruiting prowess, I just don't get it I guess. Recruits commit to coaches.

My belief. Just stay the course. It'll happen.

[AviatorX]

Last thing I will say on this, I will be surprised if he leaves. IF he does, I am sure he has his reasons and it has really tore him up.


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Hope you're right, but you're basically on an island on this one.

[GoMuskies]

More surprising...he posted here or Richmond was a top 25 team?

Richmond was awesome for a fleeting minute. That guard who got A-10 POY over Crawford (Anderson?) was the truth.

[dubbledxu]

Richmond was awesome for a fleeting minute. That guard who got A-10 POY over Crawford (Anderson?) was the truth.

Kevin Anderson, he was the real deal, dude could play. Never made the league, but I think he played overseas.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Just leave Mack. You have already decided to F the Fan base. X has made you a millionaire and right now you are saying it’s not good enough. Please just go away because you are becoming a bigger cancer then any coach that has ever left X. If you really choose Louisville over X because of money then I hope you get a ball thrown in your face. Bring back the Buick, he is a real Musketeer. Even at this point if Mack were to stay how much of this leverage BS can we take?

[waggy]

Just leave Mack. You have already decided to F the Fan base. X has made you a millionaire and right now you are saying it’s not good enough. Please just go away because you are becoming a bigger cancer then any coach that has ever left X. If you really choose Louisville over X because of money then I hope you get a ball thrown in your face. Bring back the Buick, he is a real Musketeer. Even at this point if Mack were to stay how much of this leverage BS can we take?


Maybe you should leave instead.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Maybe you should leave instead.

K

[American X]

How about Frank Martin? I’d take Martin in a heartbeat.

Big risk. You can sign him to a long-term contract, but have no idea when he has to return to his home planet.

[XUGRAD80]

So, would you be in favor of bringing Miller back?

No....and I have always thought that he was an excellent coach.

[XUBison]

First, I still don't think Mack is leaving.

Second a big F NO to Martin. Total douche, can't recruit and not even worth a phone call.

A douche? I’ve heard that a lot about Louisville’s new coach. And I guess I’ll take a guy who gets his terrible recruits to the F4.

[Xavier]

Please, no Frank Martin. Did he get fired at Kansas State or leave on his own? Can’t remember.

* he left on his own. My mistake

[throwbackmuskie]

A douche? I’ve heard that a lot about Louisville’s new coach. And I guess I’ll take a guy who gets his terrible recruits to the F4.

Pay attention to what is going on, Martin had two really good players last year, one who was suspended part of the year and the second who is part of the FBI stuff. He can’t keep players at SC, tons of players suspended or transfer out, do you really want that at Xavier? He has only taken SC to the NCAAs once.


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[throwbackmuskie]

Please, no Frank Martin. Did he get fired at Kansas State or leave on his own? Can’t remember.

* he left on his own. My mistake

He was going to be forced out


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[xavierj]

Pitino said the other day he is clean of any wrong doing and wants back in....

[bleedXblue]

Pitino said the other day he is clean of any wrong doing and wants back in....

that's funny

[GoMuskies]

Pitino said the other day he is clean of any wrong doing and wants back in....


I think Pitino would be an excellent hire for FAU. Lane Kiffin + Rick Pitino would equal some excitement for that program.

[xu koop scoop]

I say Steele then.

I have no problem with Steele. Who is coach of Loyola and how long has he been around?

[bleedXblue]

I have no problem with Steele. Who is coach of Loyola and how long has he been around?

you don't hire flash in the pans.......the guy barely has a winning record there

[throwbackmuskie]

If Mack leaves it will be Steele


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[XUBison]

you don't hire flash in the pans.......the guy barely has a winning record there

It’s Loyola for F’s sake... the fact Moser has them in the E8 is bonkers. And if he’s a flash in the pan, what is Steele? Oh, that’s right. He has no track record as a head coach, so who knows?

[Caveat]

It’s Loyola for F’s sake... the fact Moser has them in the E8 is bonkers. And if he’s a flash in the pan, what is Steele? Oh, that’s right. He has no track record as a head coach, so who knows?

How’s Shaka Smart doing down at Texas?

[OTRMUSKIE]

Shaka made the dance this year. He is a good coach butIm thinking it’s tough to win at Texas.

[smileyy]

He has no track record as a head coach, so who knows?

Just like these guys named Mack and Miller when they took the job.

[XUBison]

Just like these guys named Mack and Miller when they took the job.

Wow. Why does that mean Steele can do the job? This has become a pretty big job for someone with no experience.

[smileyy]

Wow. Why does that mean Steele can do the job? This has become a pretty big job for someone with no experience.

Because Mack and AD named him Associate Head Coach 3 years ago. If they didn't think he could handle the job at Xavier, he'd never have gotten that promotion. Remember that's the position that both Miller and Mack held before becoming head coach.

[XUBison]

How’s Shaka Smart doing down at Texas?

I see. So a proven track record is a negative on a resume. Got it.

[xudash]

Cake and eat it, too?

Sean at $2mm during an interim clearing period.

Raise Steele to $600k and name him Associate HC.

Move forward.

We're all just spitballing here.....

[GoMuskies]

I can't imagine Steele at Xavier if he doesn't get the head job. Have to think he'll go be head coach somewhere else or follow Mack to Louisville.

[Xavier]

Agreeed. As mentioned before I think Steele is safe bet, Miller is in the conversation and so is Howard.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Steele is going to be the next head coach. He is very young is from Indiana and went to Butler. I believe his wife is from Cincinnati. He is the perfect candidate. I guess when Archie gets fired at Indiana Steele will go there. I have a good feeling about Steele. I feel like he could be the Brad Stevens at X. I say let’s do it! Bring the man of Steele to us!!!

[OTRMUSKIE]

Agreeed. As mentioned before I think Steele is safe bet, Miller is in the conversation and so is Howard.

Who is howard?

[Xville]

Steele is going to be the next head coach. He is very young is from Indiana and went to Butler. I believe his wife is from Cincinnati. He is the perfect candidate. I guess when Archie gets fired at Indiana Steele will go there. I have a good feeling about Steele. I feel like he could be the Brad Stevens at X. I say let’s do it! Bring the man of Steele to us!!!

Doesn't get me excited but that's just because I have no idea what kind of head coasch he will be. Maybe he will be the best one we have ever had....

[xudash]

I can't imagine Steele at Xavier if he doesn't get the head job. Have to think he'll go be head coach somewhere else or follow Mack to Louisville.

Well, that is the idea behind the pay increase to $600,000. It's kind of an inverted arms race: go heavy towards the main assistant coach. Can UL match that kind of money for Steele as an assistant?

Bid him up and make UL pay if he's going to follow Mack. I know it also has to work for Sean, but Sean will see the benefit of his talent and the continuity he brings.

Not sure where he would go as a HC. Can't solve for that one.

[xudash]

Okay, how did we come to think that Miller is even a bonafide option?

https://247sports.com/college/arizona/Board/102969/Contents/-Sean-Miller-shuts-down-Pitt-rumors--116529269

And that brings a question: does UL have to pay Xavier a buyout for Mack.

[Caveat]

I see. So a proven track record is a negative on a resume. Got it.

Not at all.

The point is that college coaching is an inexact science. Guys who thrive at the lower level sometimes succeed when they move up. Other times, they fail — for any number of reasons. Sometimes the things they do that allow them success in lower levels simply don’t work as the caliber of player increases. Sometimes they struggle to recruit those upper level players. Sometimes the pressure gets too big — it’s one thing to dominate in a small conference and win some games in March when no one sees you coming. It’s another thing to consistently win against programs like Duke, Kansas, UNC, Villanova, etc.

[Caveat]

Okay, how did we come to think that Miller is even a bonafide option?

https://247sports.com/college/arizona/Board/102969/Contents/-Sean-Miller-shuts-down-Pitt-rumors--116529269

And that brings a question: does UL have to pay Xavier a buyout for Mack.

I haven’t seen a thing, beyond idle speculation on here, that suggests Miller is even remotely credible as a candidate.

[GIMMFD]

Shaka made the dance this year. He is a good coach butIm thinking it’s tough to win at Texas.

I don't know why it would be tough to win at Texas though, you have the highest athletic budget in the country, resources that blow almost every other school out of the water, yeah you compete with football, but there's good talent around for the pickings. They've had some decent guys like DJ Augustine, and Kevin Durant come through, I know the Big 12 is a great conference, but I feel like Texas sets themselves up to do well there, I mean Rick Barnes won 400 games there..

[boozehound]

The fact that Steele just turned down a pretty good mid major HC job strongly suggests that (1) Mack is gone and (2) Steele will be the guy, or at least he feels highly confident of that fact.

[bleedXblue]

The fact that Steele just turned down a pretty good mid major HC job strongly suggests that (1) Mack is gone and (2) Steele will be the guy, or at least he feels highly confident of that fact.

For the record that was reported via twitter.....

[Xville]

#bringmillerback

[OTRMUSKIE]

#bringmillerback

[OTRMUSKIE]

Props to Xville for getting this started. I want to go one step further so the world can see we want our BUICK BACK!!!
https://media-oregonlive-com.cdn.ampproject.org/i/media.oregonlive.com/ducks_impact/photo/ax103-0adf-9-1jpg-1b243bb419a564ce.jpg

[ArizonaXUGrad]

No on Miller, I know a recruitment that involved Book and Miller and we don’t want him back ever. Trust me!


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[bleedXblue]

Nice to think that Miller would even think about coming back..........

That would require X to take a huge gamble and that isn't happening.

The clear front runner is Steele. His job to lose if Mack is dumb enough to take this job.

[OTRMUSKIE]

#dontbringmillerback

[GoMuskies]

Sounds good if Mack really goes.

[boozehound]

I’m sure he has a massive buyout, right?

Not that any of this is serious or likely anyways...

[paulxu]

#bringmillerback


#dontbringmillerback

Hah!

[Lloyd Braun]

Travis Steele is more than ready. Oh, and #dontbringmillerback. Re-treads don’t work, ever.

[XUOWNSUC]

I'm Team Steele.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Travis Steele is more than ready. Oh, and #dontbringmillerback. Re-treads don’t work, ever.

Eh, depends on the reason. Fired from other schools retreads usually dont work (see Leitao, Dave) but Miller would be a completely different type of retread. If it was possible (which I doubt it is) I'd be all for it.

[GoMuskies]

Homer Drew was a fantastic retread!

[Lloyd Braun]

Eh, depends on the reason. Fired from other schools retreads usually dont work (see Leitao, Dave) but Miller would be a completely different type of retread. If it was possible (which I doubt it is) I'd be all for it.

Example of it working out?

[Lloyd Braun]

Homer Drew was a fantastic retread!

He was never really gone though was he? More of a pit stop than re-tread IMO

[D-West & PO-Z]

Example of it working out?

You cant give an example that would be similar to Sean coming back that didnt work out. Miller left and has been a fantastic coach with tremendous success. He wouldnt come back as a another schools castoff because it didnt work out.

[GoMuskies]

He was never really gone though was he? More of a pit stop than re-tread IMO

He retired. Came back when Scott Drew left.

[Lloyd Braun]

You cant give an example that would be similar to Sean coming back that didnt work out. Miller left and has been a fantastic coach with tremendous success. He wouldnt come back as a another schools castoff because it didnt work out.

Can’t think of one as it would be a very unique situation, and a bit awkward. He’s a very good coach but ask Arizona fans how thy think he has performed.
Just can’t get the Buick quote out of my head for better or worse.

[Lloyd Braun]

He retired. Came back when Scott Drew left.

Wasn’t it only one year, and he was still with the school in a position of authority? Regardless I would agree Homer Drew is a great retread!

[smileyy]

Just can’t get the Buick quote out of my head for better or worse.

Right? He'd eating a lot of ($#@ to come back here after that comment.

[Xville]

I'm in...Don't think there is a chance in tell of it actually happening, but a man can dream.

[GoMuskies]

I thought Scott was at Valpo a few years. Didn't realize it was just one.

Ok, Bill Snyder!

[OTRMUSKIE]

Xavier athletics just liked my #bring back Miller tweet. Does that mean he is coming back!!! ????

[GoMuskies]

Who's Murray State's coach? He should get a look (if we're looking).

[D-West & PO-Z]

Xavier athletics just liked my #bring back Miller tweet. Does that mean he is coming back!!! ????

What is your twitter handle?

[dubbledxu]

I’m sure he has a massive buyout, right?

Not that any of this is serious or likely anyways...

I’m sure UA would agree to a settlement of some sort. Their fan base isn’t sold on Miller and obv neither is their administration. Or they wouldn’t have asked him to step away like they did.

[dubbledxu]

I’d rather have a re-tread HC that would appreciate the job than a first time HC who would use us as a stepping stone (like they all have so far).

[gladdenguy]

And why do X fans want to take someone back who chose to leave saying the opportunity was better somewhere else... and by the way he already admitted that HE couldn't get X to the final 4... so if I am x I am saying "Thanks for the interest Sean... we'll be sure to keep you it resume on file should we ever be looking for someone just like you."

I think Sean has realized a LOT in 10 years since leaving X. Lets not forget the way he’s spoke about Xavier in a very positive manner the last couple years.

Another big difference is Sean wasn’t offered 3 million, Sean was not in the Big East, and Sean is not from Cincinnati. Mack leaving makes me much more angry and I have tons of respect for Sean telling Mack to stay at X.

After Mack leaves he will be my most hated Xavier coach and it’s not even close.

[dubbledxu]

Right? He'd eating a lot of ($#@ to come back here after that comment.

We’d all eat crow and do it with a smile if it meant he’s the best man to lead our program/university. One could argue the MBB coach is more powerful than Fr Graham

[Caveat]

It’s a fun thought, but 0.0% chance.

[Caveat]

I’d rather have a re-tread HC that would appreciate the job than a first time HC who would use us as a stepping stone (like they all have so far).

I want whoever is going to bring us a final four.

Where he goes after that is his business.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Xavier athletics just liked my #bring back Miller tweet. Does that mean he is coming back!!! ????

NVM, think I found it but doesn't appear they liked your tweet.

[MuskieFan5]

I’m sure he has a massive buyout, right?

Not that any of this is serious or likely anyways...

I read somewhere that his buyout is only 500k if he goes to another school. I'm sure it's very unlikely, but he would definitely be my top choice if Mack's gone and he's interested in coming back.

[AviatorX]

I want whoever is going to bring us a final four.

Where he goes after that is his business.

Totally agree. You always want the guy who is wanted by other schools. Otherwise you hire Anthony Grant.

No idea if he can ever replicate it again...but Porter Moser's offense is beautiful this tournament, although pretty meh on KenPom.

[Billy]

Y'all know what a show-cause penalty is, right?

[OTRMUSKIE]

What is your twitter handle?

@kpjohns75

[Emp]

Y'all know what a show-cause penalty is, right?

No AD can sanely consider Mack with the FBI investigation hanging over him. It appears to me he was libeled and there is no tape, but proving a negative is a major obstacle to that is not going to be resolved quickly or easily. .

No chance.

[dubbledxu]

Everyone is involved in this FBI ordeal, to think it’s only a few program/coaches is naive.

[bjf123]

What is your twitter handle?

Just search Twitter for #bringbackmiller. It’s only there once that I’ve found.


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[stammina0721]

I’d rather have a re-tread HC that would appreciate the job than a first time HC who would use us as a stepping stone (like they all have so far).

This is a great point.... Rick Pitino fits the bill. Lol

[STL_XUfan]

Y'all know what a show-cause penalty is, right?

We would just need to show cause of why we need to hire him. Well it is cause we want wins. That should be good enough right?

[OTRMUSKIE]

Bring back Miller is everywhere. Pitt started one too!!

[muskienick]

Maybe you should leave instead.

+

[XUGRAD80]

Porter Moser, who was also a HC at Arkansas-Little Rock and Illinois State, has now taken Loyola to the final 4. He would have to be under consideration for almost any job in the country, based not only on what he has down in the tourney but also on his whole career body of work.

[Yolo18]

Please, Porter Moser would be a great, great hire.
What a classy dude.

[xavierj]

Porter Moser, who was also a HC at Arkansas-Little Rock and Illinois State, has now taken Loyola to the final 4. He would have to be under consideration for almost any job in the country, based not only on what he has down in the tourney but also on his whole career body of work.

I agree. Wasn’t sold on him and thought it was a fluke but his kids are the real deal. No gimmick and no luck. Just well prepared. Would be hard to get him I think, has a lot coming back, from Chicago, but it’s always hard to repeat super success. I would be OK with him. He obviously can coach fundamentals. His team did exactly opposite of X after a missed three. They actually get back and stop the ball. I would be ok with him. He also mentioned Loyola as a Jesuit school as one reason he took the job. Loyola was really bad when he took over.

[drudy23]

And another school gets to the F4 before us...sigh (yeah, I know it's their second time).

[Caveat]

And another school gets to the F4 before us...sigh (yeah, I know it's their second time).

I had to turn it off. It was just frustrating to sit and wonder when it will be our turn.

[xavierj]

And another school gets to the F4 before us...sigh (yeah, I know it's their second time).

Apparently our coach was meeting with Louisville at Christmas after blowing the ASU game. Maybe if he wasn’t so focused on Louisville, we could have advanced.

[BandAid]

Beware of recency bias

[drudy23]

Apparently our coach was meeting with Louisville at Christmas after blowing the ASU game. Maybe if he wasn’t so focused on Louisville, we could have advanced.

Really?

[Xville]

Apparently our coach was meeting with Louisville at Christmas after blowing the ASU game. Maybe if he wasn’t so focused on Louisville, we could have advanced.

Where did you see that? That's tampering if true. I would seriously hope Mack wouldn't be that much of a d bag but who knows.

[paulxu]

For the record, I have no problem with our next coach doing the same thing over 9 years that Mack has...and maybe sneak a FF in to boot.

[xavierj]

Really?

I have heard some rumblings of that. I know he flew to Louisville from Vegas after that tournament to spend time with his wife’s family.

[paulxu]

Apparently our coach was meeting with Louisville at Christmas after blowing the ASU game. Maybe if he wasn’t so focused on Louisville, we could have advanced.

Don't post something like that without backup.

[Xville]

He's had a really mediocre career since this year, nice story and hope they win the whole effing thing but I'll pass

[xavierj]

Don't post something like that without backup.

It’s a message board. We all speak of rumors. I heard that and passed along. I think it’s obvious the communication didn’t just start.

[joe titan]

Beware of recency bias

He's had a really mediocre career since this year, nice story and hope they win the whole effing thing but I'll pass

Plus it's not coincidental that Creighton & then Wichita St leave MVC leading to LUC rise. Transfers are great but recruiting is not yet really on his resume, though Kruitig resembles Jason Love.

[BandAid]

He did turn around UALR and Loyola. But, he hasn't reached a sustained level of success at either of those schools to which we are accustomed. His time at Illinois State was "meh." I do think he is a fine coach worthy of consideration at X. I'm just concerned whenever someone becomes a "hot commodity."

[Caveat]

Nah.

[Strange Brew]

Beware of recency bias

What’s that? Haha

[jamal4xu]

So he can leave for Creighton when there is an opening there

[XUBison]

Well, excuse the shit out of him for taking a few years to build GD Loyola into a Final 4 team. This would be a terrific hire.

[XUGRAD80]

It’s a message board. We all speak of rumors. I heard that and passed along. I think it’s obvious the communication didn’t just start.

No we all DON’T speak of rumors. And when we do “speak of rumors” we identify them as such.....at least those us with some idea of proper behavior.

Message board or not, it doesn’t really matter.

[XUOWNSUC]

No.

Steele please!

[GoMuskies]

Mack. Feeling better. This is happening.

[LadyMuskie]

Um, have you all not been listening to Sr. "I-Was-Jealous-of-Rose-Ann" Jean? The reason the Ramblers are winning is because of God. Yeah, apparently the Big Guy Upstairs has moved on from his roles in the music and film industries, which left this gaping hole in his schedule. So, . . .college basketball. I say, we cut out the middle man and just hire God.

I know what you're thinking. But, LM, how will we get in touch, who's his agent, and aren't you afraid of lightning? Wasn't Jay -Z getting into sports "agenting?" Think about it. He's illuminati, he and Beyonce are connected to the music and film industry where God was previously raining down his glory, and we're losing Bill Murray so we need a new celeb fan. If HOVA can't get us connected we have GladdenGuy's good buddy Fr. Mike Graham fire up the Jesuit Batphone, so to speak, and find out from Francis how we make this happen. If God be for us, who be against us?

[xu82]

Mack. Feeling better. This is happening.



Please!!!!!

[Xville]

Mack. Feeling better. This is happening.

Huh?

[GoMuskies]

Huh?

I'm feeling Mack staying.

[waggy]

No way. Skanksville is too awesome.

[XUBison]

No.

Steele please!

okay, so why?

[Xville]

I'm feeling Mack staying.

I'd be absolutely floored but hell anything is possible....might be a loyola-fsu final four game for fuck sake

[xavierj]

No we all DON’T speak of rumors. And when we do “speak of rumors” we identify them as such.....at least those us with some idea of proper behavior.

Message board or not, it doesn’t really matter.

I said apparently, not a fact. It’s a rumor I heard if that makes it better.

[xu82]

I’m not worrying about the NEXT guy until we’ve lost OUR guy. I pray he plays this like a mofo, sets his family up, and stays here for a long, long time. IF that doesn’t happen, I’ll wonder about the next guy. Glass half full talking!

[mistabeecee41]

okay, so why?

His teams have finished in the top 4 of the conference standings once in his 15 year coaching career.

Sure, the guy has rebuilt losers which I give him tons of credit for. Taking on one of the most consistent teams in college basketball while trying to get them over the hump when the roster isn’t in tremendous shape? Different story

[D-West & PO-Z]

No AD can sanely consider Mack with the FBI investigation hanging over him. It appears to me he was libeled and there is no tape, but proving a negative is a major obstacle to that is not going to be resolved quickly or easily. .

No chance.

Good then Louisville wont hire him right!? Yay!

[D-West & PO-Z]

Just search Twitter for #bringbackmiller. It’s only there once that I’ve found.


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Yeah I did that after I asked that. I didnt see XU athletics like that tweet.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Moser has become a much better coach after his stop as an assistant under Majerus at SLU before taking the Loyola job.

Not saying I want him but I'd think he'd be at least worth an interview by X.

[XUBison]

His teams have finished in the top 4 of the conference standings once in his 15 year coaching career.

Sure, the guy has rebuilt losers which I give him tons of credit for. Taking on one of the most consistent teams in college basketball while trying to get them over the hump when the roster isn’t in tremendous shape? Different story

Wouldn’t he bring instant credibility, especially with the players? “I’ve been where you want to b. I know what it takes to get there.” We haven’t had a coach who could say that.

[SM#24]

I get it, he’s the hot item. But let’s not fall to the error of recency. He’s been a D1 head coach for 14 years and this is the first year he’s finished above 5th in his conference (Sun Belt, Horizon, MVC). I’d rather see a sustained run at Loyola before considering him. His team loses an awful lot after this season.
I actually like him and root for him, but I’d rather go with Travis.

[xukeith]

My all time favorite coach but no chance in H-E- double hockey sticks it will happen.

[stammina0721]

Wouldn’t he bring instant credibility, especially with the players? “I’ve been where you want to b. I know what it takes to get there.” We haven’t had a coach who could say that.

Can we please not forget the highest seed he beat to get there was a 5 seed? Now I still can't hate cause we couldn't even beat a nine seed but let's not act like he exactly had a gauntlet to get through

[stammina0721]

I dont know why the hub ub any more. X will be fine with or without Mack. Each coach we have lost has led to a better one. That is a trend I like

[XUGRAD80]

I dont know why the hub ub any more. X will be fine with or without Mack. Each coach we have lost has led to a better one. That is a trend I like

There is no guarantee of that continuing.....”past performance is no guarantee of future results”. Look no further than across town at UC football. They had a string of good hires, then the one big “name” they brought in has set that program back years. Mainly because of his recruiting ineptitude and his inability to interact with the fan base. We KNOW what we have with Mack. The unknown is a little bit scary to most fans.

[XUGRAD80]

Schools with openings will be TALKING with him, at the very least. SOMEONE is going to be offering him a new job. To just look at the statistics and nothing else is not doing due diligence. Hiring someone just because of recent success is no better than not talking with someone because of problems years in the past. This year may be simply a lot of things falling into place all in the right order, at the right time, for the Ramblers. Or it may be the result of a lot of early planning and building that is just now blooming. Gotta TALK with the man at the very least.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Can we please not forget the highest seed he beat to get there was a 5 seed? Now I still can't hate cause we couldn't even beat a nine seed but let's not act like he exactly had a gauntlet to get through

Moser? They beat 3 seed Tennessee.

[xavierj]

I get it, he’s the hot item. But let’s not fall to the error of recency. He’s been a D1 head coach for 14 years and this is the first year he’s finished above 5th in his conference (Sun Belt, Horizon, MVC). I’d rather see a sustained run at Loyola before considering him. His team loses an awful lot after this season.
I actually like him and root for him, but I’d rather go with Travis.

Actually Loyola returns a lot from this team. Believe they only lose a couple of guards. Big guy is just a freshman.

[xuwin]

Well might as well start having fun with this. Even if Mack stays it’s always fun to speculate. But with that said here is who I want.

1. Mack (I want stability and he gives us that, plus he really is a good coach)

2. Sean Miller ( IMO the best coach ever at X. I think he would stay for a very long time)

3. Travis Steele (He is young and he would keep the current players I believe)

4. Luke Murray (Same as Steele plus his Dad is funny)

5. Pat Kelsey (He has proven to be a good coach and maybe he would stay forever)

6. Mark Schmidt (you can only weld so long in ORLEAN)

7. Loyola/Nevada Head coach

8. Thad Matta (only 50 and the guy did make it to the final 4 twice?)

9. Brian Gregory/Jim O’Brien ( those guys suck but keep getting jobs so let’s keep the tradition alive)

10.Rick Pitino( nothing would say F you to Louisville then to get this guy)


You forgot Mick.

[bjf123]

You forgot Mick.

I just threw up in my mouth a little.


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[stammina0721]

Moser? They beat 3 seed Tennessee.

I stand corrected I completely forgot about that game. Thank you for setting me straight

[stammina0721]

There is no guarantee of that continuing.....”past performance is no guarantee of future results”. Look no further than across town at UC football. They had a string of good hires, then the one big “name” they brought in has set that program back years. Mainly because of his recruiting ineptitude and his inability to interact with the fan base. We KNOW what we have with Mack. The unknown is a little bit scary to most fans.

That just is not a winners mentality. I could counter your argument very easily by staying in the same Cincinnati town and say look no further than the Cincinnati Bengals. Mike Brown is staying with "what he knows" he has in Marvin Lewis. However, we all know as fans that him coming back already dooms this upcoming season. So I guess I am not sure what your point is here if it can be countered by a team in the same city.

[XUGRAD80]

That just is not a winners mentality. I could counter your argument very easily by staying in the same Cincinnati town and say look no further than the Cincinnati Bengals. Mike Brown is staying with "what he knows" he has in Marvin Lewis. However, we all know as fans that him coming back already dooms this upcoming season. So I guess I am not sure what your point is here if it can be countered by a team in the same city.

Oh boy, “not a winners mentality”? You didn’t just go there, did you? You...”everyone goes for the money, everyone”? Please tell me just what you know about a “winners mentality” when it comes to NCAA athletics. Please tell me what your expereince is in that regard is. We will compare anytime you want.

Child Please

[Masterofreality]

If not CMack, I vote Travis.

-Fantastic Recruiter
-Players Like him
-Offensive guru
-Local Cincy wife
-Not Xavier raised, but Xavier cultured
-Youthful energy.

Keep Travis and get a former D1 Coach in here that can help- a guy like Jim Whitsell.
Remember that neither Sean Miller nor CMack were previous D1 coaches. I think that those moves worked out OK.

[Masterofreality]

Schools with openings will be TALKING with him, at the very least. SOMEONE is going to be offering him a new job. To just look at the statistics and nothing else is not doing due diligence. Hiring someone just because of recent success is no better than not talking with someone because of problems years in the past. This year may be simply a lot of things falling into place all in the right order, at the right time, for the Ramblers. Or it may be the result of a lot of early planning and building that is just now blooming. Gotta TALK with the man at the very least.
True


Actually Loyola returns a lot from this team. Believe they only lose a couple of guards. Big guy is just a freshman.
And True as well. Add to this is the only real thing Loyola lacked in the past was a legit post presence. Sean O'Mara was down to Xavier and Loyola, and luckily chose Xavier. If Sean would have gone with Loyola, along with Milton Doyle, they may have done what they're doing now much earlier.

[Olsingledigit]

You forgot Mick.

Well I did get a kick out of this list, but mostly unrealistic. What makes you think Sean is leaving Arizona? What makes you think we could pay him enough? What makes you think he wouldn’t leave again for more pay? What makes you think he isn’t too tainted with Book’s actions?

[xudash]

If not CMack, I vote Travis.

-Fantastic Recruiter
-Players Like him
-Offensive guru
-Local Cincy wife
-Not Xavier raised, but Xavier cultured
-Youthful energy.

Keep Travis and get a former D1 Coach in here that can help- a guy like Jim Whitsell.
Remember that neither Sean Miller nor CMack were previous D1 coaches. I think that those moves worked out OK.

I'm with you all the way.

Xavier has demonstrated "forever" that we can go "next man up" from our own coaching tree.

He has all the key attributes for success and he is young and hungry.

Now, with all that noted, make it UNAUTOMATIC for Murray to follow Mack.

If we won't be paying Mack $3mm, pay the existing assistants. Keep the rest of the staff intact, or at least try to do that.

[GIMMFD]

I'm with you all the way.

Xavier has demonstrated "forever" that we can go "next man up" from our own coaching tree.

He has all the key attributes for success and he is young and hungry.

Now, with all that noted, make it UNAUTOMATIC for Murray to follow Mack.

If we won't be paying Mack $3mm, pay the existing assistants. Keep the rest of the staff intact, or at least try to do that.

Agreed, move Murray up to Associate Head Coach, heard nothing but good things, Steele would probably help keep the guys that he's recruited on roster, and bring stability. Steele I think would stay for a little bit as well, he'd be an interesting hire, it's worked out in the past time after time again, if it isn't broke, don't fix it, right?

[GreatWhiteNorth]

Steele has shown that he can recruit but can he coach and develop players?

[xu82]

I want next years coach to be last years coach.

[bjf123]

While I like how we’ve been able to promote from within for awhile, we can’t bat 1.000 forever doing that. At some point, we’ll make a bad hire that way. Maybe Steele is the next Miller or Mack. Maybe not. We’re not in the A-10 any more facing that level of competition. I think we have to look at someone who’s been successful at a major D-1 level program.


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[Masterofreality]

Schools with openings will be TALKING with him, at the very least. SOMEONE is going to be offering him a new job. To just look at the statistics and nothing else is not doing due diligence. Hiring someone just because of recent success is no better than not talking with someone because of problems years in the past. This year may be simply a lot of things falling into place all in the right order, at the right time, for the Ramblers. Or it may be the result of a lot of early planning and building that is just now blooming. Gotta TALK with the man at the very least.


While I like how we’ve been able to promote from within for awhile, we can’t bat 1.000 forever doing that. At some point, we’ll make a bad hire that way. Maybe Steele is the next Miller or Mack. Maybe not. We’re not in the A-10 any more facing that level of competition. I think we have to look at someone who’s been successful at a major D-1 level program.


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A LOT of people didn't like the CMack hire.

[sirthought]

I'm thinking Moser > Steele. Even with the consistency for the program.

The way that Loyola team plays both sides of the ball impresses the hell out of me. He just hasn't been at a school that can attract as high caliber players as a Big East school.




You guys who say shit like I'm "hearing" this or that, if you can't say who you've heard it from, then keep your mouth closed about it. It adds nothing of substance and is a waste of time.

[Backyard Champ]

I'm thinking Moser > Steele. Even with the consistency for the program.

The way that Loyola team plays both sides of the ball impresses the hell out of me. He just hasn't been at a school that can attract as high caliber players as a Big East school.




You guys who say shit like I'm "hearing" this or that, if you can't say who you've heard it from, then keep your mouth closed about it. It adds nothing of substance and is a waste of time.

Before this year, did you have any idea who he was? It's been a nice run, but they needed a miracle shot to advance in the first round.

[GoMuskies]

I'm all for reading the "I'm hearing..." stuff. Keeps the whole thing interesting. So if you think you've got something, please, do share.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Hell no on porter hell no. The guy caught lighting that’s all he did. He has failed everywhere he has been with the exception of two seasons. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porter_Moser

[GIMMFD]

Steele has shown that he can recruit but can he coach and develop players?

Well I don't know the answer to that 100%, but he has been on a staff that's developed the hell out of some talent the last few years, a lot of guys have become great players, I'm sure some of that knowledge has to be passed down to Steele if it's Mack. In game coaching is a whole different ball game though, I'm sure there will be growing pains, not like Chris Mack didn't go through his fair share when he was learning on the job. I'd like to think Steele has learned a lot as associate head coach and is more than ready to take over a program, he's young and it would be his first job, he won't be perfect, but I think he is a good fit. I do also agree we should have a long interview process and really see who's interested and what they're thinking about the job offer, I trust Christopher to make a good hire, and hopefully continue the success of Xavier basketball.

[XUOWNSUC]

Hell no on porter hell no. The guy caught lighting that’s all he did. He has failed everywhere he has been with the exception of two seasons. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porter_Moser

Exactly. He is the very definition of lightning caught in a bottle. He has never finished better than FIFTH in his conference before this year. That is 14 seasons as a head coach with only one season better than fifth in his conference.

Moser = HELL NO

[Masterofreality]

Hell no on porter hell no. The guy caught lighting that’s all he did. He has failed everywhere he has been with the exception of two seasons. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porter_Moser

That was BM.......Before Majerus. Moser's a Creighton guy.

[stammina0721]

I want next years coach to be last years coach.

Not gonna happen. I like Mack but not taking the next step to get a final four in 9 years is not progress in my book. I'm totally fine letting him flame out in the elite 8 every year at Louisville.

Not a knock on Mack but the more I think about him leaving the more comfortable I am with it. Next man up

[XUBison]

While I like how we’ve been able to promote from within for awhile, we can’t bat 1.000 forever doing that. At some point, we’ll make a bad hire that way. Maybe Steele is the next Miller or Mack. Maybe not. We’re not in the A-10 any more facing that level of competition. I think we have to look at someone who’s been successful at a major D-1 level program.


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Exactly right. Thank you.

[XUBison]

Steele has shown that he can recruit but can he coach and develop players?

Or handle everything else that goes along with running your own team, let alone an elite major program? We have no idea. No one does, not even Steele.

[dubbledxu]

If not CMack, I vote Travis.

Remember that neither Sean Miller nor CMack were previous D1 coaches. I think that those moves worked out OK.


I'm with you all the way.

Xavier has demonstrated "forever" that we can go "next man up" from our own coaching tree.

He has all the key attributes for success and he is young and hungry.

Now, with all that noted, make it UNAUTOMATIC for Murray to follow Mack.

If we won't be paying Mack $3mm, pay the existing assistants. Keep the rest of the staff intact, or at least try to do that.

MUCH easier to do in the A10 than in the Big East. Much more pressure in BE.


I want next years coach to be last years coach.

agreed


Or handle everything else that goes along with running your own team, let alone an elite major program? We have no idea. No one does, not even Steele.

Alot will depend on the team he has his first 2 years too. Do the current players stay and help with the transition, or will he have a bunch of new faces and have to establish a culture.

[XUBison]

Hell no on porter hell no. The guy caught lighting that’s all he did. He has failed everywhere he has been with the exception of two seasons. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porter_Moser

I’ll happily take some of that lightning. I don’t know how you could have watched them in the tourney and still think that. It‘s obvious how well coached they are.

[GreatWhiteNorth]

Or, hire a proven coach from a major program and hope he brings with him a couple of new players for 2018 while not losing any of ours.

[Masterofreality]

Or, hire a proven coach from a major program and hope he brings with him a couple of new players for 2018 while not losing any of ours.

"......who's not happy and all the supporters and admins want him gone despite him being recently successful, does not have any scandal attached to him and he'll move for 2.0 mil/year."

Keep dreaming.

[Xavier]

Or, hire a proven coach from a major program and hope he brings with him a couple of new players for 2018 while not losing any of ours.

Like who? The only major d1 coach I’ve seen suggested is Miller.

[GoMuskies]

We could have stolen Darren Horn from South Carolina last time. That would have been...something.

[XUBison]

Like who? The only major d1 coach I’ve seen suggested is Miller.

Chris Beard, Bobby Hurley, Andy Enfield, Frank Martin...

[GoMuskies]

Chris Beard, Bobby Hurley, Andy Enfield, Frank Martin...

Beard, yes. The others? Yuck.

[stammina0721]

I'm still for Rick Pitino. I say him cause he feels slighted and in all honesty I dont think he had anything to do with the mess. I think it was all assistants. Big time D1 coach, gives us a suit to match Jay Wright and because he is older I could see him staying longer than a young guy looking to make a bigger jump. I know it is not a popular idea im just saying I'm cool with it. I do understand if others are not though

[GoMuskies]

Between hiring Pitino and burning down the University and salting the earth, I choose....burning down the University and salting the earth.

[dubbledxu]

I’m surprised we haven’t seen any media names thrown into the mix. Lavin, Greenberg, etc. or even a Jeff Capel / johnny Dawkins type. I hope it doesn’t come to them, but crazier things have happened.

[stammina0721]

Between hiring Pitino and burning down the University and salting the earth, I choose....burning down the University and salting the earth.

Trust me I understand. I'm cool with taking slick Rick though

[94GRAD]

I’m surprised we haven’t seen any media names thrown into the mix. Lavin, Greenberg, etc. or even a Jeff Capel / johnny Dawkins type. I hope it doesn’t come to them, but crazier things have happened.

Probably because there isn't a job opening at Xavier!

[XUBison]

Beard, yes. The others? Yuck.

Fair enough, but they’re examples of high profile “power” conf coaches that could be interested in bolting from places where it’s tough to win for a better opportunity at X. Beard is intriguing. Enfield is a dud. I think Bobby Hurley might be a good coach, but not sure why he chose ASU. Martin is a damn good coach with an E8 and an F4 at 2 different schools respectively.

[Ole blue eyes]

Just curious. I’ve heard several people say they trust Greg C to make the right choice. Does he have a history of hiring men’s B.B. coaches? If not, can someone explain this confidence?

[letskeepitreal]

Can’t imagine Beard leaving the Big 12. I think Enfield was a flash in the pan. Don’t know Hurley’s defensive philosophy and I don’t think we can compete in the Big East without good D. I kind of like Martin but can we attract him away from the SEC? What about Buffalo’s coach or Musselman of Nevada? Don’t know whether Moser of Loyola is ready or is he just lucky?