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X-band '01
03-22-2018, 04:12 PM
Don't think any new home-and-home series have been announced, but this is what should be on the table for next season's schedule:
Home game vs. Non-bracketed opponent (part of the Maui Invitational)
Home game vs. TBD Big Ten (part of the Gavitt Games)
3 games - Maui Invitational
Road game at Utah (completes a home-and-home started in 2016-17)
Road game at Cincinnati (Crosstown Shootout)
This would leave room for a maximum of 7 more games to be scheduled for next year. The Skip Prosser Classic will resume at Wake Forest for the 2019-20 season under the current scheduling arrangement between both schools.
dubbledxu
03-22-2018, 04:14 PM
We need UD back on the schedule.
dethwing
03-22-2018, 04:17 PM
Damn, the 2018 Maui Invitational looks freaking -Stacked-. Arizona, Duke, Gonzaga, Auburn, Xavier....
GoMuskies
03-22-2018, 04:30 PM
How about Wichita State? They're rebuilding too!
xudash
03-22-2018, 05:14 PM
We need UD back on the schedule.
If they pay us $250k for the privilege of playing in the Cintas Center, then fine.
No, make it $500k.
SemajParlor
03-22-2018, 08:24 PM
Louisville could be fun.
KabeX
03-23-2018, 12:05 AM
Don't think any new home-and-home series have been announced, but this is what should be on the table for next season's schedule:
Home game vs. Non-bracketed opponent (part of the Maui Invitational)
Home game vs. TBD Big Ten (part of the Gavitt Games)
3 games - Maui Invitational
Road game at Utah (completes a home-and-home started in 2016-17)
Road game at Cincinnati (Crosstown Shootout)
This would leave room for a maximum of 7 more games to be scheduled for next year. The Skip Prosser Classic will resume at Wake Forest for the 2019-20 season under the current scheduling arrangement between both schools.
Didn't the Utah return game get bought out?
Muskie
03-23-2018, 01:47 PM
We need UD back on the schedule.
As long as GC is AD, that's not happening.
X-band '01
03-23-2018, 02:30 PM
Didn't the Utah return game get bought out?
Can't remember if it was bought out or merely postponed. The series originally started because Xavier had a home game in the Gavitt series yanked a couple of years ago.
paulxu
03-23-2018, 03:13 PM
We need UD back on the schedule.
We may need a new coach, and a lot of other things. This is not one of them.
dubbledxu
03-23-2018, 04:20 PM
As long as GC is AD, that's not happening.
Yes, and its a damn shame. Even if their program is reeling.
XMuskieFTW
03-29-2018, 02:59 PM
Yea the Utah game was bought out. Let's hope Mario sticks around, because we have a ton of games to fill.
Masterofreality
03-29-2018, 04:06 PM
Isn't the Skip Prosser Classic back on this year?
Edit. No. Not until 2019-2020.
BandDad
03-29-2018, 05:00 PM
To fill in the gap, Xavier has contracted with Patrick Ewing to prepare our out of conference schedule for next year!
xubrew
04-06-2018, 11:06 AM
Yes, and its a damn shame. Even if their program is reeling.
There is a team in Dayton that isn't reeling. Wright State won 26 games after an 0-3 start and has six of their top seven players back.
throwbackmuskie
04-06-2018, 11:56 AM
I say put Wright State on the schedule just to needle Dayton.
xubrew
04-06-2018, 12:45 PM
I say put Wright State on the schedule just to needle Dayton.
Needling Dayton may be a bonus, but Wright State is looking like they'll be the better team next year. Perhaps for the next two or three years.
Muskie1000
04-09-2018, 07:22 AM
Yes, and its a damn shame. Even if their program is reeling.
Why is this a shame? What would playing them bring to the table? First they would never agree unless we did a Home and away with them. The last place I ever want to play is there. Secondly they are average at best so we are expected to win. A loss would be a bad loss in a lesser conference. I would much rather we play a middle of the road say SEC team than a Dayton.
Xavier
04-09-2018, 09:32 AM
I’m not disagreeing with you but That’s the exact argument UC had for a long time.
xubrew
04-09-2018, 10:28 AM
Wright State is available. A 26 win team that made the NCAA Tournament, beat every team in their league, beat all but one of them away from home, and returns six of their top seven players.
GoMuskies
04-09-2018, 11:04 AM
Wright State is available. A 26 win team that made the NCAA Tournament, beat every team in their league, beat all but one of them away from home, and returns six of their top seven players.
Sounds like a team that we might want to avoid this year!
MADXSTER
04-11-2018, 11:10 AM
Wright State is available. A 26 win team that made the NCAA Tournament, beat every team in their league, beat all but one of them away from home, and returns six of their top seven players.
I'm with Brew on this
Masterofreality
04-11-2018, 12:14 PM
All I can share right now is that there are quote: "A lot of moving parts". Hang on.....
MADXSTER
04-11-2018, 12:44 PM
I wouldn't mind playing Ball State. James Whitford has been the coach there for a while. Would be a good travel game for them since they are only about 2 hours away.
xubrew
04-11-2018, 12:56 PM
I wouldn't mind playing Ball State. James Whitford has been the coach there for a while. Would be a good travel game for them since they are only about 2 hours away.
Same conference, but Buffalo should also be good again if they can hold on to everyone. They lose Wes Clark, but they return pretty much everyone else. They could potentially be even better next year than they were this past year, and they were pretty damn good this past year.
Lloyd Braun
04-11-2018, 01:12 PM
Does Stanford have an opening?
webxu
04-11-2018, 01:22 PM
Remember when Stanford was a dominant team.. seems like a million years ago.
XMuskieFTW
04-11-2018, 04:23 PM
So we have 4 games with the Maui tourney, home Gavitt, and road UC. That leaves 7 games to fill. My guess is two High major H/Hs(one on the road, one at home) and 5 additional buy games. Maui is stacked, it's a bit of a transition year, and the Wake series starts back up in 19-20, so I think we replace Baylor, Colorado, and UNI with the 2 H/Hs and a buy game.
GoMuskies
04-11-2018, 04:33 PM
So we have 4 games with the Maui tourney, home Gavitt, and road UC.
That's actually 5 games, because we'll get three in Maui. But those five games only count as 3.
xubrew
04-11-2018, 05:03 PM
That's actually 5 games, because we'll get three in Maui. But those five games only count as 3.
I think he meant four Maui games, making that six games total. Maui plays "Mainland Games" now with four teams each playing two of the eight teams teams, and then playing a four team/two game tournament against each other. So, there will be what amounts to being a buy game as the fourth game. X will play 31 total games.
To get hyper-technical over something that really doesn't matter, the rule with exempt tournaments is that you get 27 games in addition to the exempt tournament, and you can play up to four games in an exempt tournament.
So, that's why the Maui does the mainland games now. What some teams in other tournaments like to do is exactly what we did with Northern Iowa, and that's schedule a fourth non-bracketed game against one of the other teams so they can play a total of 31. We could have done back in 2015-2016 in the year we were in the Old Spice in Orlando, but opted not to.
GIMMFD
04-11-2018, 06:34 PM
So we have 4 games with the Maui tourney, home Gavitt, and road UC. That leaves 7 games to fill. My guess is two High major H/Hs(one on the road, one at home) and 5 additional buy games. Maui is stacked, it's a bit of a transition year, and the Wake series starts back up in 19-20, so I think we replace Baylor, Colorado, and UNI with the 2 H/Hs and a buy game.
Wonder what conference we'd go after for a high major game, I wouldn't be opposed to scheduling a Big 12 team again, someone like Texas Tech would be pretty fun as Chris Beard is improving that program immensely, and wouldn't be a bad H/H, another fun one for me would be West Virginia, but lord knows how you guys feel about Huggins.
XUOHTX
04-12-2018, 08:49 AM
I may be biased but I would like to see a home and home with any of these teams:
TCU
SMU
UT Arlington
UNT
muskiefan82
04-12-2018, 08:55 AM
It felt odd last year without an SEC team on the schedule. I think we need to schedule an SEC team we haven't played recently. Maybe a USC or Vandy
GoMuskies
04-12-2018, 09:06 AM
I may be biased but I would like to see a home and home with any of these teams:
TCU
SMU
UT Arlington
UNT
I prefer Wichita State, KU, K-State, Tulsa, Oklahoma, Oral Roberts or Oklahoma State....but I could live with UNT!
muskiefan82
04-12-2018, 09:23 AM
Whatever happened to Oklahoma City? Did they move down?
GoMuskies
04-12-2018, 09:33 AM
I think they're NAIA.
Muskie
04-12-2018, 10:14 AM
Wonder if we will add someone like UGA, South Carolina, or Minnesota based on the recruiting zones of the new assistants. I can feel Paulxu popping the bourbon now if we get a game in South Carolina.
94GRAD
04-12-2018, 10:38 AM
Wonder if we will add someone like UGA, South Carolina, or Minnesota based on the recruiting zones of the new assistants. I can feel Paulxu popping the bourbon now if we get a game in South Carolina.
He's going to go broke with all the bourbon he owes when everyone visits!
Muskie
04-12-2018, 10:51 AM
He's going to go broke with all the bourbon he owes when everyone visits!
I can confirm that he bought two rounds of drinks when he and I met in Greenville.
SemajParlor
04-12-2018, 10:59 AM
I may be biased but I would like to see a home and home with any of these teams:
TCU
SMU
UT Arlington
UNT
Can't believe UTA didn't make the tournament. I circled them as a sleeper at the beginning of last year. Good team.
Masterofreality
04-12-2018, 11:03 AM
I think they're NAIA.
What? Abe Lemmons couldn't maintain the program?
Aside: Xavier's first ever broadcasted game on ESPN was in 1982 vs Oklahoma City from the Schmidthouse.
xubrew
04-12-2018, 11:05 AM
Can't believe UTA didn't make the tournament. I circled them as a sleeper at the beginning of last year. Good team.
I can't believe they fired their coach.
GoMuskies
04-12-2018, 11:07 AM
What? Abe Lemmons couldn't maintain the program?
Aside: Xavier's first ever broadcasted game on ESPN was in 1982 vs Oklahoma City from the Schmidthouse.
In Oklahoma City's final two games this season, they beat Xavier and lost to Georgetown. Tough schedule!
http://www.ocusports.com/schedule.aspx?path=mbball&
paulxu
04-12-2018, 11:44 AM
A game with the Cocks in Columbia would be great!
That would be a great win for me to celebrate for long after. (take away the Wofford sting)
I'll buy the bourbon for any of you jackwads that make the trip down South.
Went to an X game in Athens a few years ago; it's not much further than Columbia.
Muskie
04-12-2018, 11:48 AM
A game with the Cocks in Columbia would be great!
That would be a great win for me to celebrate for long after. (take away the Wofford sting)
I'll buy the bourbon for any of you jackwads that make the trip down South.
Went to an X game in Athens a few years ago; it's not much further than Columbia.
If It's on a weekend, I would be there.
xudash
04-12-2018, 12:01 PM
A game with the Cocks in Columbia would be great!
That would be a great win for me to celebrate for long after. (take away the Wofford sting)
I'll buy the bourbon for any of you jackwads that make the trip down South.
Went to an X game in Athens a few years ago; it's not much further than Columbia.
Since you just called me a "jackwad", since bourbon is involved, and since Columbia is just about 5 hours UP the road, I might be showing up at your doorstep, or whichever bar in town you want us to congregate in.
paulxu
04-12-2018, 12:40 PM
Excellent! Come on down...or in your case, being in Florida, come on up !
I think he meant four Maui games, making that six games total. Maui plays "Mainland Games" now with four teams each playing two of the eight teams teams, and then playing a four team/two game tournament against each other. So, there will be what amounts to being a buy game as the fourth game. X will play 31 total games.
To get hyper-technical over something that really doesn't matter, the rule with exempt tournaments is that you get 27 games in addition to the exempt tournament, and you can play up to four games in an exempt tournament.
So, that's why the Maui does the mainland games now. What some teams in other tournaments like to do is exactly what we did with Northern Iowa, and that's schedule a fourth non-bracketed game against one of the other teams so they can play a total of 31. We could have done back in 2015-2016 in the year we were in the Old Spice in Orlando, but opted not to.
This year is the first year that Chaminade will actually not be playing any games in the Maui Tourney. The write up did say that they will play some of the teams on the mainland. I wonder who those teams are? I hope Xavier isn't scheduling a game against a D2 team.
xu95
Wonder if we will add someone like UGA, South Carolina, or Minnesota based on the recruiting zones of the new assistants. I can feel Paulxu popping the bourbon now if we get a game in South Carolina.
I would be surprised if Minnesota or Georgia scheduled a game with us since we just stole an assistant coach from them. Plus Crean is a d-bag.
xu95
94GRAD
04-12-2018, 02:56 PM
I would be surprised if Minnesota or Georgia scheduled a game with us since we just stole an assistant coach from them. Plus Crean is a d-bag.
xu95
No way they schedule a game against X knowing those assistant coaches could bring local recruits to the game.
Muskie
04-12-2018, 03:37 PM
No way they schedule a game against X knowing those assistant coaches could bring local recruits to the game.
Which is why I wonder if South Carolina is an opportunity.
xubrew
04-12-2018, 04:00 PM
This year is the first year that Chaminade will actually not be playing any games in the Maui Tourney. The write up did say that they will play some of the teams on the mainland. I wonder who those teams are? I hope Xavier isn't scheduling a game against a D2 team.
xu95
I believe they're still trying to get two other teams. Last I saw they were offering $170k. That would include everything. Being on the ass kicking end (most likely) of two buy games, and then the four team/two game tournament after that.
Lloyd Braun
04-12-2018, 04:39 PM
Does anyone have a link to the site some schools use to request schedule partners? Kind of like a craigslist site for basketball operations staffs ...
Muskie
04-12-2018, 04:46 PM
Does anyone have a link to the site some schools use to request schedule partners? Kind of like a craigslist site for basketball operations staffs ...
It's no longer open to the public. Which is a SHAME.
Snipe
04-12-2018, 05:17 PM
Giving a 2 for 1 to Wright State and playing in Dayton and not playing the Flyers would be fun. Would like to do a 2 for 1 with NKU too.
I would like to play Loyola of Chicago. I think you could introduce Sister Jean at the Cintas and people would applaud.
Ohio States coach said that he was open to playing us at some point. It would be great to get that on the schedule.
Be nice to feast on some more SEC teams. Tennessee or Florida would be my faves, we have played them both before.
St Marys needs some teams to play given the snub. Nevada seems to have a nice program. Always would like another Gonzaga series.
I don't know why we can't have a homecoming game with Huggy Bear and West Virginia. That would be a big game on the home schedule. Seems like it should be doable.
paulxu
04-12-2018, 06:54 PM
For some reason, if I work at it long enough, I can get signed into the Basketball Travelers site.
I see no request for Xavier at this point for any games. Lots of mid majors trying to get stuff.
Someone mentioned (brew?) the whole deal about the Maui games.
Here's what Arizona is looking for:
Arizona and San Diego State are looking for a team interested in participating in the Maui Mainland MTE event for 2018-19. The team would play a game at both Arizona and SDSU (at SDSU on 11/11 and at Arizona on either 11/8 or 11/14) and then play in a 4-team tournament at Evansville on 11/17 & 11/18 (UNC Ashville is in the field). Please email if you have an interest
Here's what Gonzaga is looking for:
Gonzaga and Iowa State are looking for a team interested in participating in the Maui Mainland MTE event for 2018-19. The team would play a game at Gonzaga (November 9) and at Iowa State (November 12) and then play in a 4-team tournament at Evansville on 11/17 & 11/18 (UNC Asheville is in the field). Please contact if interested.
The only power schools looking for a H/H that I see are:
Oklahoma State to start in Stillwater on 12/9
Illinois to start in Champaign on 12/15
USC to start in LA on 11/30
Didn't go back to postings before 1/1/2018
XU 87
04-12-2018, 06:56 PM
What? Abe Lemmons couldn't maintain the program?
Aside: Xavier's first ever broadcasted game on ESPN was in 1982 vs Oklahoma City from the Schmidthouse.
I was at that game. X was up early and then lost.
QueensbridgeMF
04-12-2018, 07:18 PM
My parents just moved to So Carolina, that would be a great excuse to head south in December if they scheduled USC. 2 hr drive to Columbia but that's ok.
XU '11
04-13-2018, 09:52 AM
This year is the first year that Chaminade will actually not be playing any games in the Maui Tourney. The write up did say that they will play some of the teams on the mainland. I wonder who those teams are? I hope Xavier isn't scheduling a game against a D2 team.
xu95
Since Chaminade is D2, that game wouldn't go into X's RPI. That would be much better than getting stuck with a bad team that also drags down our RPI.
Since Chaminade is D2, that game wouldn't go into X's RPI. That would be much better than getting stuck with a bad team that also drags down our RPI.
Understood, but I still hope we don't schedule a D2 team for a regular season game.
xu95
XMuskieFTW
04-13-2018, 04:37 PM
We aren't playing Chaminade.
Does anyone have a link to the site some schools use to request schedule partners? Kind of like a craigslist site for basketball operations staffs ...
Does that site have a tab you can click on to request your recruiting hookers?
SM#24
04-13-2018, 05:56 PM
I thought I saw somewhere that we play Evansville at home as the 4th Maui game.
xufan02
04-14-2018, 10:23 AM
I thought I saw somewhere that we play Evansville at home as the 4th Maui game.
This is correct.
I thought I saw somewhere that we play Evansville at home as the 4th Maui game.
Hey, we can call it, " Both places are better off without Mack Nite " Bobble heads of Mack in a red and black suit with a hooker and a suitcase full of cash.
D-West & PO-Z
04-14-2018, 06:18 PM
Damn, I knew it was expensive to fly to Hawaii but just looked it up and right now the cheapest flight I found was just over $2,000. Thats at first glance didnt do a lot of digging or thinking how to connect where to make cheaper.
SM#24
04-15-2018, 08:49 AM
Damn, I knew it was expensive to fly to Hawaii but just looked it up and right now the cheapest flight I found was just over $2,000. Thats at first glance didnt do a lot of digging or thinking how to connect where to make cheaper.
It’s much cheaper (but still expensive) if you fly on Mon-Th
D-West & PO-Z
04-15-2018, 02:23 PM
It’s much cheaper (but still expensive) if you fly on Mon-Th
Which is tough to do since games start Monday.
Not sure I'm going to be able to swing it but will keep looking into it.
Olsingledigit
04-15-2018, 04:15 PM
Which is tough to do since games start Monday.
Not sure I'm going to be able to swing it but will keep looking into it.
I gave up on it long ago. I simply cannot afford to spend that much on that trip and it is a bad time for me to be gone from home anyway.
Lloyd Braun
04-19-2018, 11:47 AM
Shootout will be Dec 8th.
X-band '01
04-19-2018, 01:07 PM
Interesting - Cincinnati normally tries to play their home game in the Shootout during conference season.
Interesting - Cincinnati normally tries to play their home game in the Shootout during conference season.
I don't think they really have much say in it. I'm sure ESPN told them when the game would be.
xu95
smileyy
04-19-2018, 07:49 PM
Hey, we can call it, " Both places are better off without Mack Nite " Bobble heads of Mack in a red and black suit with a hooker and a suitcase full of cash.
Public reps
XMuskieFTW
04-21-2018, 02:14 PM
X Oakland December 1st. They lose almost everyone from last year. Probably a mid pack horizon league team.
XUOWNSUC
04-25-2018, 11:06 AM
Per the Enquirer (did you know they won a Pulitzer Prize? :rolleyes:) Xavier will play the Ohio University Bobcats next year.
GIMMFD
04-25-2018, 11:13 AM
Hmm hopefully it's not too late in the game to announce a big match-up, it can't hurt to battle test your team. Wonder if Ohio State is on the radar for Mario...
muskiefan82
04-25-2018, 11:20 AM
Well, they do have a home Gavitt game coming........
RetireFiftyTu
04-25-2018, 11:47 AM
X's up to the minute non-con schedule
-Home Gavitt Game (we think, second week of season)
-Maui Invitational (3 games, loaded field this year including Arizona, Gonzaga, and Duke, Nov 19-21)
-Home vs. Oakland (Sat, December 1)
-At UC (Sat, December 8)
-Home vs. Evansville (date unknown, non-bracketed Maui game)
-Home vs. Ohio U (date unknown)
Looking at 2 more buy games and probably 3 high major games
XMuskieFTW
04-25-2018, 11:49 AM
X's up to the minute non-con schedule
-Home Gavitt Game (we think, second week of season)
-Maui Invitational (3 games, loaded field this year including Arizona, Gonzaga, and Duke, Nov 19-21)
-Home vs. Oakland (Sat, December 1)
-At UC (Sat, December 8)
-Home vs. Evansville (date unknown, non-bracketed Maui game)
-Home vs. Ohio U (date unknown)
Looking at 2 more buy games and probably 3 high major games
I'd be shocked if we do 3 HM games. With gavitt and how stacked Maui is I have to imagine we'll only do two. Especially because wake starts back up next year.
XU 87
04-25-2018, 11:55 AM
-Home vs. Evansville (date unknown, non-bracketed Maui game)
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For those who were around for the MCC days, who would have thought that one day Evansville would be an XU buy game?
birdman71
04-25-2018, 12:14 PM
Not me 87. And certainly not Parrish Casebier.
I remember when UE games were always sellouts and the Aces were the badasses of the MCC. But then, X got rolling, and UE went steadily downhill. Time flies when you're a Musketeer.
GoMuskies
04-25-2018, 03:31 PM
There was no way the magic of Jim Crews could last forever.
Honestly, it's like Jim Crews forgot how to coach the minute Xavier left for the A-10. He was 169-98 as a coach pre-Xavier to the A-10. He was 263-306 after. And that includes a 55-14 stretch at SLU before he was able to destroy what Majerus had built.
bourbonman
04-25-2018, 03:35 PM
X's up to the minute non-con schedule
-Home Gavitt Game (we think, second week of season)
-Maui Invitational (3 games, loaded field this year including Arizona, Gonzaga, and Duke, Nov 19-21)
-Home vs. Oakland (Sat, December 1)
-At UC (Sat, December 8)
-Home vs. Evansville (date unknown, non-bracketed Maui game)
-Home vs. Ohio U (date unknown)
Looking at 2 more buy games and probably 3 high major games
So I mentioned this to a couple of folks I was sitting with at the BET> I wish Xavier could get a high major game at a neutral site in a huge arena early in the year. I have to believe this experience would help them in the tourney(s) just being in that environment and playing in that setting with the depth perception behind the baskets being so vast. Thoughts?
GoMuskies
04-25-2018, 03:44 PM
So I mentioned this to a couple of folks I was sitting with at the BET> I wish Xavier could get a high major game at a neutral site in a huge arena early in the year. I have to believe this experience would help them in the tourney(s) just being in that environment and playing in that setting with the depth perception behind the baskets being so vast. Thoughts?
There was this game a number of years ago in New Jersey that I left at halftime. We don't like to talk about it.
So I mentioned this to a couple of folks I was sitting with at the BET> I wish Xavier could get a high major game at a neutral site in a huge arena early in the year. I have to believe this experience would help them in the tourney(s) just being in that environment and playing in that setting with the depth perception behind the baskets being so vast. Thoughts?
Those are almost always made for tv matches. Even with all of our success, we just don't have the juice to swing one of those.
GIMMFD
04-26-2018, 10:19 AM
Those are almost always made for tv matches. Even with all of our success, we just don't have the juice to swing one of those.
What about like one of the army hanger games, last season was WVU/Texas A&M, which obviously much bigger public schools, but it's not like the WVU fan base is that HUGE, just a good team. Maybe not this year, but I could see us getting one of those type of match ups in the future.
Masterofreality
04-26-2018, 10:22 AM
What about like one of the army hanger games, last season was WVU/Texas A&M, which obviously much bigger public schools, but it's not like the WVU fan base is that HUGE, just a good team. Maybe not this year, but I could see us getting one of those type of match ups in the future.
Those games are traditionally a mess. Bad venue, bad courts that risk injury and bad travel required. Another ESPN braincramp that sucks. No thank you.
xubrew
04-26-2018, 10:41 AM
What about like one of the army hanger games, last season was WVU/Texas A&M, which obviously much bigger public schools, but it's not like the WVU fan base is that HUGE, just a good team. Maybe not this year, but I could see us getting one of those type of match ups in the future.
That was part of the Armed Forces Classic, and it's already been scheduled for next year. Arkansas will play Texas. I don't think the Armed Forces Classic games have been a mess at all. The one at Pearl Harbor two years ago was awesome with Kansas v Indiana and Arizona v Michigan State both going into overtime on opening night. I don't know if Xavier will ever play in one because it would mean not playing at the Cintas Center on opening night, but of all the early season "classics" that we see, this is one of the better ones. It's generally one of the only decent games on opening night. But to MOR's point, a lot of the other similar types of games are kind of crappy.
xubrew
04-26-2018, 10:52 AM
But to get back to your overall point, it feels more and more like power programs schedule home buy games, exempt tournament games, neutral floor showcase games that are put together by third parties, and that's it. The only time you see them play road games if it is, again, scheduled by a third party like the Big Ten/ACC Challenge or something like that. I don't think Kentucky has played a home and home outside of Louisville, which is practically scheduled by a third party, in over five years. The team they played was North Carolina, and it was part of a home and home where it led into the Army v Navy football game both years, and was basically scheduled for that purpose.
No one plays anyone just to play them anymore. Except for maybe Virginia and North Carolina. Even when Kansas played at Nebraska, it was still a home and home that had a corporate sponsor behind it, so there was this additional infusion of revenue attached to playing the game. I think Kansas only typically plays one true OOC road game a year. Duke doesn't play any outside of the Big Ten/ACC Challenge, and playing Saint John's at MSG where they have a big ticket allotment doesn't really count.
Masterofreality
04-28-2018, 01:53 PM
Ohio U on the schedule at Cintas this year.
xubrew
05-02-2018, 08:30 AM
Wright State is available.
Cheesehead
05-03-2018, 01:42 PM
Wonder if we could ever get a home and away with the Zags?
XMuskieFTW
05-03-2018, 01:50 PM
Wonder if we could ever get a home and away with the Zags?
Doubt we would this year since they're in Maui and we already have a 4th game, but I'd love to see that H/H come back.
X-band '01
05-03-2018, 04:39 PM
Too bad we had the rotten luck of the post-brawl fallout when they came to Cintas.
XMuskieFTW
05-09-2018, 04:23 PM
Evansville at X Saturday November 10th. No opening week Friday night game this year. Guessing we'll open on Tuesday the 6th.
http://www.tristatehomepage.com/sports/ue-basketball-team-releases-non-conference-schedule/1169779945
Jesuit4Life
05-14-2018, 11:18 PM
Wisconsin is the home Gavitt game, according to Rothstein.
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/996217279418220544
Here are the full matchups from him:
Michigan at Villanova
Wisconsin at Xavier
Georgetown at Illinois
Ohio State at Creighton
St. John’s at Rutgers
Seton Hall at Nebraska
Marquette at Indiana
Penn State at DePaul
Providence and Butler are two Big East teams not involved in the 2018 Gavitt Games, while Michigan State, Iowa, Purdue, Maryland, Northwestern, and Minnesota are the six Big Ten teams that will not participate.
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D-West & PO-Z
05-15-2018, 12:12 AM
Wisconsin is the home Gavitt game, according to Rothstein.
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/996217279418220544
Here are the full matchups from him:
Michigan at Villanova
Wisconsin at Xavier
Georgetown at Illinois
Ohio State at Creighton
St. John’s at Rutgers
Seton Hall at Nebraska
Marquette at Indiana
Penn State at DePaul
Providence and Butler are two Big East teams not involved in the 2018 Gavitt Games, while Michigan State, Iowa, Purdue, Maryland, Northwestern, and Minnesota are the six Big Ten teams that will not participate.
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Finally a home game, guess that was coming though. Would have liked to see some variety in who we play though. Wisconsin back to back years in Gavitt games and obviously we've played them several times before.
GIMMFD
05-15-2018, 01:13 AM
Finally a home game, guess that was coming though. Would have liked to see some variety in who we play though. Wisconsin back to back years in Gavitt games and obviously we've played them several times before.
Yeah was really hoping for Michigan State, that would have been an awesome match-up. Hopefully we can get them before the Gavitt series ends, when does it end again??
xubrew
05-15-2018, 08:20 AM
I was hoping for someone other than Wisconsin. Nothing against Wiscy. I'm just kinda ready to try something else off of the Big Ten's menu.
Has any other BE team had a worse Gavitt deal than us? How many f*cking times do we have to play Wisc and their boring ass style of play ? Or get left off the schedule altogether.
bjf123
05-15-2018, 12:55 PM
Rodney understands. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180515/cab885736c202882646bdab41a9f96d9.jpg
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Cheesehead
05-15-2018, 01:03 PM
Has any other BE team had a worse Gavitt deal than us? How many f*cking times do we have to play Wisc and their boring ass style of play ? Or get left off the schedule altogether.
As a Cheesehead, I totally agree. Why on Earth would they pair Xavier against Wisconsin... AGAIN!!!?
muskiefan82
05-15-2018, 01:59 PM
Has any other BE team had a worse Gavitt deal than us? How many f*cking times do we have to play Wisc and their boring ass style of play ? Or get left off the schedule altogether.
As long as X avoids Rutgers and Penn State, I will live with it.
xudash
05-15-2018, 02:18 PM
As a Cheesehead, I totally agree. Why on Earth would they pair Xavier against Wisconsin... AGAIN!!!?
Perhaps the TV people want to stage a scene involving 10,500 Gator Chomps from the Xavier fan base towards the Whisky bench. Perhaps that would be considered a little dated by then.
X-band '01
05-15-2018, 03:14 PM
Perhaps the TV people want to stage a scene involving 10,500 Gator Chomps from the Xavier fan base towards the Whisky bench. Perhaps that would be considered a little dated by then.
We already know any UW fans who attend will be doing the Tomahawk Chop - so shouldn't we really make Florida-FSU the bonus Gavitt Game?
muskiefan82
05-15-2018, 03:16 PM
We already know any UW fans who attend will be doing the Tomahawk Chop - so shouldn't we really make Florida-FSU the bonus Gavitt Game?
That would actually be a little funny. I would actually appreciate the humor of that. I do wonder what Steve Stricker would think, though. I want to avoid getting his blood pressure up. He seems very easily rattled.
webxu
05-16-2018, 08:07 AM
Would be nice if they mad them sort of rivalry games.. Wisc- Marq, X-OSU, Butler-IU, Etc.. things would be way more interesting
xubrew
05-16-2018, 08:27 AM
Would be nice if they mad them sort of rivalry games.. Wisc- Marq, X-OSU, Butler-IU, Etc.. things would be way more interesting
Maryland v Georgetown.
BMoreX
05-17-2018, 12:52 PM
@JonRothstein
Sources: Missouri, Xavier to start home-and-home series next season in Columbia.
ChicagoX
05-17-2018, 12:52 PM
Jon Rothstein tweeted that Xavier and Missouri will start a home-and-home next year on Columbia.
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/997155856021164032
BMoreX
05-17-2018, 12:54 PM
Shannon just tweeted that the full noncon schedule will be released today.
Xville
05-17-2018, 12:55 PM
Jon Rothstein tweeted that Xavier and Missouri will start a home-and-home next year on Columbia.
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/997155856021164032
Good option. Missouri is probably a bubble team next year, but 2019 they are trending toward a top 5 seed.
GoMuskies
05-17-2018, 12:57 PM
Jon Rothstein tweeted that Xavier and Missouri will start a home-and-home next year on Columbia.
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/997155856021164032
Sweet. Quite driveable for this guy assuming it's a weekend game.
Xtemporaneous
05-17-2018, 01:08 PM
Here's the whole schedule:
2018-19 Xavier Men’s Basketball Non-Conference Schedule
Thursday, Nov. 1 - Exhibition opponent TBD
Tuesday, Nov. 6 - IUPUI
Saturday, Nov. 10 - Evansville
Tuesday, Nov. 13 - Wisconsin (Gavitt Tipoff Games)
Monday, Nov. 19 - Maui Jim Maui Invitational
Tuesday, Nov. 20 - Maui Jim Maui Invitational
Wednesday, Nov. 21 - Maui Jim Maui Invitational
Wednesday, Nov. 28 - Miami (Ohio)
Saturday, Dec. 1 - Oakland
Wednesday, Dec. 5 - Ohio
Saturday, Dec. 8 - at Cincinnati
Saturday, Dec. 15 - Eastern Kentucky
Tuesday, Dec. 18 - at Missouri
Friday, Dec. 21 -Detroit Mercy
94GRAD
05-17-2018, 01:33 PM
Sweet. Quite driveable for this guy assuming it's a weekend game.
Tuesday Dec 18th.
SM#24
05-17-2018, 01:53 PM
Not sure I'm digging 7 buy games. But we do get old MCC rivals Detroit & Evansville, so there's that.
Looks like we were unsuccessful getting a high major home/home starting at Cintas unless this was the plan all along.
I guess it's a positive from a resume building standpoint that we have 6 high level games and only one at home.
MKE_Muskie2021
05-17-2018, 02:41 PM
Schedule is just laughing at those who want to see X-UD to play. While I do like bringing in regional rivals in Ohio and Miami, UD should be a must add on the schedule. UD should be scheduled opposite Cincinnati so each year Cintas gets a big rivalry.
Xville
05-17-2018, 02:47 PM
Schedule is just laughing at those who want to see X-UD to play. While I do like bringing in regional rivals in Ohio and Miami, UD should be a must add on the schedule. UD should be scheduled opposite Cincinnati so each year Cintas gets a big rivalry.
A "must add" for what? Dayton would benefit greatly just by scheduling xavier and I'd rather not do anything to benefit that cesspool of a fanbase. F dayton
scoscox
05-17-2018, 02:50 PM
Heartily agree with xville
drudy23
05-17-2018, 03:16 PM
I don't understand not wanting to play Dayton. It was a GREAT rivalry.
We all hate UC. Would it still be fun to hate them if we didn't play them?
There's no fun in enjoying their misery if we're completely out of the loop.
Play the game.
XUMIOH12
05-17-2018, 04:44 PM
Not sure I'm digging 7 buy games. But we do get old MCC rivals Detroit & Evansville, so there's that.
Looks like we were unsuccessful getting a high major home/home starting at Cintas unless this was the plan all along.
I guess it's a positive from a resume building standpoint that we have 6 high level games and only one at home.
I'm good with all those buy games this season. We have a lot of new pieces and a new coaching staff. The 3 Maui games plus Wisconsin, Missouri, Cincinnati will provide plenty of OOC sos.
xubrew
05-17-2018, 04:46 PM
Wright State was available.
XU 87
05-17-2018, 05:14 PM
Here's the whole schedule:
2018-19 Xavier Men’s Basketball Non-Conference Schedule
Thursday, Nov. 1 - Exhibition opponent TBD
Tuesday, Nov. 6 - IUPUI
Saturday, Nov. 10 - Evansville
Tuesday, Nov. 13 - Wisconsin (Gavitt Tipoff Games)
Monday, Nov. 19 - Maui Jim Maui Invitational
Tuesday, Nov. 20 - Maui Jim Maui Invitational
Wednesday, Nov. 21 - Maui Jim Maui Invitational
Wednesday, Nov. 28 - Miami (Ohio)
Saturday, Dec. 1 - Oakland
Wednesday, Dec. 5 - Ohio
Saturday, Dec. 8 - at Cincinnati
Saturday, Dec. 15 - Eastern Kentucky
Tuesday, Dec. 18 - at Missouri
Friday, Dec. 21 -Detroit Mercy
So X opens with IUPUI? I wonder if former UD recruit Stephen Thomas is still on that team? (Some of the long timers on this board may get this joke).
GIMMFD
05-17-2018, 05:38 PM
Not terrible, a stacked Maui field will be the brutal part of the non-conference, decent resume builder, and enough to keep us tested going into Big East play. I like it.
I hope we stomp Evansville, aka Chris Mack's alma mater.
UCGRAD4X
05-17-2018, 09:45 PM
I don't understand not wanting to play Dayton. It was a GREAT rivalry.
We all hate UC. Would it still be fun to hate them if we didn't play them?
There's no fun in enjoying their misery if we're completely out of the loop.
Play the game.
The exhibition game is still TBD.
D-West & PO-Z
05-17-2018, 09:53 PM
I'm good with all those buy games this season. We have a lot of new pieces and a new coaching staff. The 3 Maui games plus Wisconsin, Missouri, Cincinnati will provide plenty of OOC sos.
Yeah and Maui is STACKED.
D-West & PO-Z
05-17-2018, 09:56 PM
Not terrible, a stacked Maui field will be the brutal part of the non-conference, decent resume builder, and enough to keep us tested going into Big East play. I like it.
Didnt see this before my post, funny we used same adjective but that field really is stacked. Kinda bummed we are playing in a tourney that good in a year with so many new faces and unknowns.
XUBison
05-17-2018, 10:03 PM
I hope we stomp Evansville, aka Chris Mack's alma mater.
This is awesome. LOL.
muskiefan82
05-17-2018, 10:49 PM
[QUOTE=D-West & PO-Z;624847]Didnt see this before my post, funny we used same adjective but that field really is stacked. Kinda bummed we are playing in a tourney that good in a year with so many new faces and unknowns.[/QUOT
This is why X will win. They will sneak up on them.
paulxu
05-18-2018, 07:45 AM
This seems really early for the full non-con schedule to come together.
Then again, I've been drinking.
sirthought
05-20-2018, 05:22 PM
The team is less experienced, I know, but this schedule is the opposite of impressive. To put all their eggs in with the Maui tourney is not what the program should be aspiring to. No reason to buy a home ticket except for maybe Wisconsin.
I'd hope what they go towards is tough competition from multiple conferences every year. Preferably one match up scheduled from the other big six conferences, outside of any tournament. That can be tough, I know, but should be possible most years. Focus on schools, at least, from with the top 16 RPI conferences.
No need to play TWO MAC and THREE Horizon schools in the same year. One from each is great, but let's try to matchup with programs towards the top of last year's standings. Would love to see games with Wright State and NKU instead of IUPUI, Detroit or even Evansville. Between leagues like Southern, Patriot, Ohio Valley, CUSA, A10, etc. there has to be teams that were towards the top of the standings that would at least draw more interest of a competitive game.
I wouldn't complain if they played Dayton, but really see no reason to play them ever again, unless it's in a tournament. Certainly not every year. It was a tired matchup for years and just no longer fun. Can't see that changing soon unless they elevate their program. I think it would be great to have at least one team from A10 each year, but not the same team.
letskeepitreal
05-20-2018, 10:52 PM
It does seem that other than the Maui tournament, that the schedule is easier than it’s been historically.
Xavier
05-20-2018, 11:31 PM
I agree (even though I think Xavier schedules too much for numbers game and less about high quality teams) and in most cases wouldn’t love it but I think it will be important for Steele to have some ease ones this year
GoMuskies
05-20-2018, 11:36 PM
I think the schedule is pretty solid. @Mizzou and @Cincy with Wisky at home to go along with likely 3 really tough games in Maui (0-3 is not even close to out of the question)? I really wouldn't want a more difficult schedule with this year's roster.
WCWIII
05-21-2018, 07:59 AM
I certainly trust Mario. The last three years: 1 and 2 seeds, and importantly a tourney invite with a 9-9 League record. I don't think we'll be competing for a top 5 RPI this year, but hopefully the schedule (with the Maui tourney) will support our results as defending Big East champs in the league and we will enjoy postseason success. Would anyone be shocked if Travis brings us to a Sweet 16 or beyond - what a great program we have!
What about the schedule in terms of entertainment value?
Last year's OOC set up quite well for this out-of-towner. UC, Baylor, and Colorado were games of interest and two of those were on a Saturday (also away games at Wisconsin and at UNI were drive-able). I also made the exhibition and the Hampton game. Initial thoughts on the schedule are that maybe I take an extra day off and make an extra long weekend for both Evansville and Wisconsin. The @UC game is certainly more intriguing than the rest of the home schedule. I'll certainly try to make one or two more, but not sure. I'm not complaining, just sayin'.
scoscox
05-23-2018, 12:50 PM
I think you guys are underselling the Maui Tournament. In most exempt tournaments, you typically get 1 high major, and it's not always a marquee game. The Maui will guarantee 3 marquee, high-major games on top of Wisconsin, UC, and Missouri. The schedule will be plenty tough.
sirthought
05-23-2018, 09:58 PM
Is it a question of whether the schedule is adequately tough for a resume alone? Or is there no need to give fans a reason to want to see the team play a competitive game at home?
Jeez, I want to support a team, but by this point we know they could be scheduling more competitive games and fill the stands. The machine is likely selling enough season tickets that they aren't worried. But as a fan who wants to enjoy action on home court, this schedule is snoozer.
Yep, that tournament will be a challenge. It's not at Cintas.
But I agree, between the tournament, UC, WI, and MO they have the right number of majors to give them a resume.
scoscox
05-23-2018, 11:32 PM
Is it a question of whether the schedule is adequately tough for a resume alone? Or is there no need to give fans a reason to want to see the team play a competitive game at home?
Jeez, I want to support a team, but by this point we know they could be scheduling more competitive games and fill the stands. The machine is likely selling enough season tickets that they aren't worried. But as a fan who wants to enjoy action on home court, this schedule is snoozer.
Yep, that tournament will be a challenge. It's not at Cintas.
But I agree, between the tournament, UC, WI, and MO they have the right number of majors to give them a resume.
We will still have wisconsin at home and the shootout and missouri happen to be away. Besides you'll still get to see them play the defending national champs, along with marquette, gtown, butler, creighton, etc. Just consider that 5 years ago, you'd see maybe two high majors a year and then fordham, st bonaventure, and umass. I'm willing to give them a pass on squeezing in another high major non-conference home game to an already loaded schedule.
Xavier
05-24-2018, 10:02 AM
I think you guys are underselling the Maui Tournament. In most exempt tournaments, you typically get 1 high major, and it's not always a marquee game. The Maui will guarantee 3 marquee, high-major games on top of Wisconsin, UC, and Missouri. The schedule will be plenty tough.
It will? They aren't guaranteed to play one of Gonzaga/Arizona/Duke, right? I'd be surprised if they are matched with any of them to start the tournament. IF X doesn't win the first game, it isn't out of the question they don't play any of those teams. As I said earlier, the schedule is set up for Travis to succeed and I don't think thats a bad idea.
GoMuskies
05-24-2018, 10:06 AM
Auburn is a marquee game if we play them this year. Moreso than Arizona.
Xavier
05-24-2018, 11:25 AM
Fair point, my main point was I don't love relying on any early season tournament to provide the big match ups the schedule needs. Never know how it will break. It is a lot better to get these high marque games on the schedule instead of relying on the tournaments. I would be curious to see how many elite 8 teams Xavier has played pre-tournament outside of Nova since joining the Big East.
XMuskieFTW
05-24-2018, 12:25 PM
Even if we play San Diego State, Illinois, and Iowa State in Maui, there's probably 2 quad 1 games in there and no quad 3 or 4. I wonder if they'll match up the teams playing a common 4th opponent/geographically. That would put us with Illinois first round likely playing Duke/Auburn next round.
GIMMFD
05-24-2018, 02:20 PM
Auburn is a marquee game if we play them this year. Moreso than Arizona.
There's a high chance all four of Auburn's guy's that declared for the draft come back, so yeah that'd be something to keep an eye on. But even then we're going to play AT LEAST one pretty good team in Maui, win or lose. I'm just hoping we don't come back from Maui 0-3, though our early season tournaments have been going a bit better as of late (barring the Arizona State loss, which they just shot lights out), so I could see us going 2-1/1-2 for sure, and who knows Duke will be young and might not be gelled by then, that would be a fun match-up for me, just to see where we stand against a team that can recruit 3 out of the top 10 players nationally.
muskiefan82
05-24-2018, 03:07 PM
I hate Duke. Except maybe when they play Louisville this year....then I might be conflicted.....maybe.....
GIMMFD
05-24-2018, 06:13 PM
I hate Duke. Except maybe when they play Louisville this year....then I might be conflicted.....maybe.....
Haha I don't think anybody here really loves em, but you gotta respect the status of a program like that, and what it would mean to win a game like that. It's a good litmus test, really show's how much we've grown just to get to Maui, but to be competitive in it?? Now that would be something great.
Haha I don't think anybody here really loves em, but you gotta respect the status of a program like that, and what it would mean to win a game like that. It's a good litmus test, really show's how much we've grown just to get to Maui, but to be competitive in it?? Now that would be something great.
St. John's really took the luster off of beating Duke for me.
GoMuskies
05-25-2018, 09:25 AM
St. John's really took the luster off of beating Duke for me.
Did St. John's also take the luster off of winning at Villanova for you?
i will be in Maui this year. I honestly don't care who we play. They are all good teams.
xu95
Lloyd Braun
06-14-2018, 04:01 PM
“The Maui Invitational (Nov. 19-21) is back to being the best tournament of the non-conference with Arizona, Auburn, Duke, Gonzaga, Illinois, Iowa State, San Diego State and Xavier. There is no longer a spot in the main field for Chaminade. Here is how I would seed the field: 1. Gonzaga; 2. Duke; 3. Auburn; 4. Iowa State; 5. San Diego State; 6. Xavier; 7. Illinois; 8. Arizona. Wow. Think about this field for a second. In a given year these could be the top eight seeds in a regional. Gonzaga was my top pick for the pre-season Power 36. Duke will get plenty of love for being a top choice. But they still should be 1-2 in some order and be set up on opposite brackets for a possible Maui final.”
From Katz (https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2018-06-14/10-non-conference-basketball-tournaments-could-be-key-come)
Do they seed the field like he is doing here? Interesting.
I do think they seed teams (kind of). I don't think they go from 1 to 8, but I do believe they think about potential matchups when they decide which bracket, whose playing who, etc.
xu95
Lloyd Braun
07-24-2018, 03:31 PM
Auburn is a marquee game if we play them this year. Moreso than Arizona.
Boom
Also of note is more word of Big East-Big 12 challenge starting 2019.
paulxu
07-24-2018, 03:50 PM
Boom
Also of note is more word of Big East-Big 12 challenge starting 2019.
That would be a 3 year overlap with the Gavitt games. Nice.
Even better, everyone could play, every year.
GIMMFD
07-24-2018, 08:48 PM
That would be a 3 year overlap with the Gavitt games. Nice.
Even better, everyone could play, every year.
It's going to really hurt my soul when we draw WVU in that.
webxu
07-26-2018, 08:31 AM
Rock Chalk at the 'Tas.. that's what im talking about! Lets GO X
bobbiemcgee
09-11-2018, 04:39 PM
Just made my reservations for the "Golden" Reunion (class of '68) festivities @ X on Nov. 9/11. Staying at the new Hilton on Dana, hopefully not to far from DG. Hoping we pummel the Aces. On another note of interest, if you're ever planning a trip to Colorado, I got a nonstop RT to Cincy for $72 bucks. Assuming it works the other way on Allegiant as well. The fees included were $57.00! Wow.
noteggs
09-11-2018, 05:54 PM
Just made my reservations for the "Golden" Reunion (class of '68) festivities @ X on Nov. 9/11. Staying at the new Hilton on Dana, hopefully not to far from DG. Hoping we pummel the Aces. On another note of interest, if you're ever planning a trip to Colorado, I got a nonstop RT to Cincy for $72 bucks. Assuming it works the other way on Allegiant as well. The fees included were $57.00! Wow.
Good news you’re only two blocks from Dana’s. 50 years, that’s amazing...congrats on that!
bjf123
09-11-2018, 07:20 PM
On another note of interest, if you're ever planning a trip to Colorado, I got a nonstop RT to Cincy for $72 bucks. Assuming it works the other way on Allegiant as well. The fees included were $57.00! Wow.
I’d be surprised if it works the other way. We’ve got friends in Panama City Beach, FL. They can get under $100 tickets to Cincinnati all the time and keep telling me we should fly down to see them. The flights from here to there are always $200 - $300. That stinks.
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Roadlife
09-11-2018, 08:43 PM
[QUOTE=bjf123;628674]I’d be surprised if it works the other way. We’ve got friends in Panama City Beach, FL. They can get under $100 tickets to Cincinnati all the time and keep telling me we should fly down to see them. The flights from here to there are always $200 - $300. That stinks.
The airlines call that a GOTCHA!
Just made my reservations for the "Golden" Reunion (class of '68) festivities @ X on Nov. 9/11. Staying at the new Hilton on Dana, hopefully not to far from DG. Hoping we pummel the Aces. On another note of interest, if you're ever planning a trip to Colorado, I got a nonstop RT to Cincy for $72 bucks. Assuming it works the other way on Allegiant as well. The fees included were $57.00! Wow.
That’ll be pretty special.
Hope you have a great time at the reunion and get to witness a beautiful start to the new X season... where Travis showcases his mad skills as a head coach, proving he knows how to get the most out of his players.
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