History is made!!!

[stammina0721]

There has to be a dedicated thread to this... UMBC has made history and it needs to be recognized.

[muskiefan82]

I would like to state that St. John's win over Duke makes a lot more sense now.

[whopper]

very true about st johns over duke. The little guard reminds me of Horshak on welcome back kotter

[HenryMuto]

UMBC lost by 44 to Albany this year.

UMBC lost like 23 straight times to Vermont before hitting a game winning 3 at the buzzer in their conf tournament to get this bid.

[Irishjohn68]

That game was the perfect storm. UMBC played the perfect game against a team that as they got farther behind and being offensively challenged was simply not going to come back. Talk about deer in the head lights. History made. One of the greatest upsets in sports history.

[XUGRAD80]

Can’t imagine that there is even one bracket that is still perfect! Congrats UMBC! And it wasn’t even close. WOW!

[Irishjohn68]

Can’t imagine that there is even one bracket that is still perfect! Congrats UMBC! And it wasn’t even close. WOW!

Dilly Dilly!

[stammina0721]

This is on the level of Miracle on Ice!

[XUBison]

Unbelievable! The tourney is the greatest event in sports, and it’s not even close.

[stammina0721]

Now the real question... Can they beat Kansas State

[X-band '01]

Anyone know if K-State remembered to bring white or gray jerseys for Sunday?

[Masterofreality]

This gives Kentucky a free ride to the Elite 8, until they run into the Loyola Ramblers!!

[KabeX]

Can’t imagine that there is even one bracket that is still perfect! Congrats UMBC! And it wasn’t even close. WOW!https://www.ncaa.com/webview/news/basketball-men/bracketiq/2018-03-16/last-perfect-bracket-busts-after-umbc-pulls-biggest-upset?param=mml_app

[stammina0721]

Unbelievable! The tourney is the greatest event in sports, and it’s not even close.

8 thumbs up to this... can't agree more

[XUBison]

This is on the level of Miracle on Ice!


Yes... Miracle on Ice. Buster Douglas. UMBC.

[X-ceptional]

https://i.imgur.com/FcdHTz1_d.jpg

[muskiefan82]

Now the real question... Can they beat Kansas State


https://www.ncaa.com/webview/news/basketball-men/bracketiq/2018-03-16/last-perfect-bracket-busts-after-umbc-pulls-biggest-upset?param=mml_app
I wonder if the ace of cakes picked umbc.

[KabeX]

I wonder if the ace of cakes picked umbc.

I must admit - I had to Google it.

[X-band '01]

Yes... Miracle on Ice. Buster Douglas. UMBC.

Will never forget the Columbus Dispatch headline of "Buster's The Champ" on that Sunday newspaper in question.

[BandAid]

I wonder if the ace of cakes picked umbc.

Isn't that Sean Miller, or am I confusing Ace of Cakes and Cake Boss?

[muskiefan82]

The ace of cakes is Duff Goldman.

[X-ceptional]

I still can't believe it... Dude was cramping up so bad he was sitting on the floor licking salt from what looked like one of those cheddar peanut butter crackers with like 8 min to go, and leads them to stretching out a 20 point margin. What the hell happened?

He threw up a three point tear drop after a whistle, and splashed it... Everything falling... Wow just wow

[X-ceptional]

This team lost by 40 or 50 to Albany earlier this year. WHAT THE HELL

[stammina0721]

This team lost by 40 or 50 to Albany earlier this year. WHAT THE HELL

They scored 39 pts in a full game. Literally less than a point a minute and beat a one seed. It is gross what we just saw

[Classof1985]

Virginia just got an old-fashioned butt-whoopin. The were dominated on the boards, allowed UMBC to shoot 54% from the field and 50% from the 3-point line. In the meantime, HooU could throw it the ocean (18% from the three-point line). Three starters essentially gave them nothing.

That's how a #1 goes down. Good for UMBC.

[Snipe]

Strange things happening in the South with UMBC and Buffalo. I hope that both of those teams win their next game and meet each other. Then one of them will be in the Elite 8 and playing for the Final Four.

Creighton has to be kicking themselves by missing such a great opportunity.

They will talk about this game every year until another 16 seed does it again, and that could be a year or two.

The 16 beating a 1 was always destiny. It was going to happen. What sped up the process is the play in games. We already had seen some very good #2 seeds. The play in games eliminate the worst 2 16 seeds, and that pushed teams that would normally have been 15 seeds into the 16 bracket. UMBC would have been a 15 seed in the old system by definition, the worst 4 16 seeds go the play in route. So no long ago this would have been a 15 over a 2 upset, not a 16. It makes a real difference. It may be awhile until we see a 16 seed win coming out of the play in games.

Which brings me to another question.

We played a team with a losing record tonight and scored 102 points. UVA played a team that won 24 games. They were the #1 of #1 seeds, and we were the 4th of #1 seeds. Nobody has raised the question yet, because nobody thought it would ever make a difference, but how come Kansas gets Penn and Virginia gets UMBC. They would have both been 15 seeds in the old system. Now if Virginia comes out now and says they were screwed by the selection committee, they would be called out for vaginal pain violations. But I can say it, Virginia was screwed by the selection committee.

What a game for the ages.

UC has to be chomping at the bit.

[GIMMFD]

My first reaction to this is just to think of the last 15 years of sports that I've been alive for and can remember vividly, and I'm going out on a limb here, but I believe we are in the best era of sports currently. Think of all the athletes around in every single sport for the last 15 years, and tell me there isn't one per sport that can be argued as the greatest ever. Tom Brady, LeBron James, Tiger Woods, Michael Phelps, Messi, etc. We are truly blessed with what is going on in the sports world currently, and I think that speaks volumes for itself. Don't want to take anything away from UMBC, congratulations Receivers, you truly earned it by playing one helluva game, but man. This is an awesome time to be alive.

[XUBison]

Strange things happening in the South with UMBC and Buffalo. I hope that both of those teams win their next game and meet each other. Then one of them will be in the Elite 8 and playing for the Final Four.

Creighton has to be kicking themselves by missing such a great opportunity.

They will talk about this game every year until another 16 seed does it again, and that could be a year or two.

The 16 beating a 1 was always destiny. It was going to happen. What sped up the process is the play in games. We already had seen some very good #2 seeds. The play in games eliminate the worst 2 16 seeds, and that pushed teams that would normally have been 15 seeds into the 16 bracket. UMBC would have been a 15 seed in the old system by definition, the worst 4 16 seeds go the play in route. So no long ago this would have been a 15 over a 2 upset, not a 16. It makes a real difference. It may be awhile until we see a 16 seed win coming out of the play in games.

Which brings me to another question.

We played a team with a losing record tonight and scored 102 points. UVA played a team that won 24 games. They were the #1 of #1 seeds, and we were the 4th of #1 seeds. Nobody has raised the question yet, because nobody thought it would ever make a difference, but how come Kansas gets Penn and Virginia gets UMBC. They would have both been 15 seeds in the old system. Now if Virginia comes out now and says they were screwed by the selection committee, they would be called out for vaginal pain violations. But I can say it, Virginia was screwed by the selection committee.

What a game for the ages.

UC has to be chomping at the bit.


No argument with your assessment, except that UVA was not screwed. They should have crushed UMBC, whether they were a 16 or a 15. UVA was the #1 overall team for a reason, and they got whipped... by UMBC. There’s no asterisk on this.

[sirthought]

*champing at the bit.

[paulxu]

UMBC = App State.

[Xuperman]

Yes, stunning upset!! The NCAA Tourney is the most exciting sporting event going but it is a "one and done" format with too many teams. That said, it is flawed and open to crowning a "National Champion" that is not the BEST TEAM in the country. UK or UC will make the F4. And if they should win it all, would anyone, other than their fan base, recognize either as the best team nationally? Of course not, they would simply be winners of a tournament.

[JEHARDI]

Yes, stunning upset!! The NCAA Tourney is the most exciting sporting event going but it is a "one and done" format with too many teams. That said, it is flawed and open to crowning a "National Champion" that is not the BEST TEAM in the country. UK or UC will make the F4. And if they should win it all, would anyone, other than their fan base, recognize either as the best team nationally? Of course not, they would simply be winners of a tournament.

I would not be surprised to see Nevada take out UC.

[xubrew]

Strange things happening in the South with UMBC and Buffalo. I hope that both of those teams win their next game and meet each other. Then one of them will be in the Elite 8 and playing for the Final Four.

Creighton has to be kicking themselves by missing such a great opportunity.

They will talk about this game every year until another 16 seed does it again, and that could be a year or two.

The 16 beating a 1 was always destiny. It was going to happen. What sped up the process is the play in games. We already had seen some very good #2 seeds. The play in games eliminate the worst 2 16 seeds, and that pushed teams that would normally have been 15 seeds into the 16 bracket. UMBC would have been a 15 seed in the old system by definition, the worst 4 16 seeds go the play in route. So no long ago this would have been a 15 over a 2 upset, not a 16. It makes a real difference. It may be awhile until we see a 16 seed win coming out of the play in games.

Which brings me to another question.

We played a team with a losing record tonight and scored 102 points. UVA played a team that won 24 games. They were the #1 of #1 seeds, and we were the 4th of #1 seeds. Nobody has raised the question yet, because nobody thought it would ever make a difference, but how come Kansas gets Penn and Virginia gets UMBC. They would have both been 15 seeds in the old system. Now if Virginia comes out now and says they were screwed by the selection committee, they would be called out for vaginal pain violations. But I can say it, Virginia was screwed by the selection committee.

What a game for the ages.

UC has to be chomping at the bit.

This isn’t gonna sound fair, but the answer is travel. One of the 16 v 16 games has to be on Wednesday, and I think they just wanted to put the winner of that game into the closest Friday spot that was available. In looking how they’ve done it in the past they’ve never seemed to favor the overall #1.

[bjf123]

This gives Kentucky a free ride to the Elite 8, until they run into the Loyola Ramblers!!

And possibly UC to the Final Four. Of course, they do have to get past Nevada first, and then Kentucky.


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[xavierj]

And possibly UC to the Final Four. Of course, they do have to get past Nevada first, and then Kentucky.


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I think UC will also have to play Tennessee. They are no slouch.

[xuwin]

This isn’t gonna sound fair, but the answer is travel. One of the 16 v 16 games has to be on Wednesday, and I think they just wanted to put the winner of that game into the closest Friday spot that was available. In looking how they’ve done it in the past they’ve never seemed to favor the overall #1.

Virginia created their own path because they had their choice of regions and they picked the one that included UMBC.

[Xavier]

As cool as it was to see- All I could think about was how it makes UC run that much easier. They have to be feeling great today.

[X-band '01]

Virginia created their own path because they had their choice of regions and they picked the one that included UMBC.

UMBC's inclusion in the South was just a coincidence. They always start from the top on down on rhe seed list - hence the South Region for Virginia. If you were to seed the 16s solely by geography, they would have sent UMBC to Pittsburgh and Penn to Charlotte (and then sent Radford to Wichita and Texas Southern to Nashville). Instead, they sent Radford on a short trip to Pittsburgh for a Thursday opener and Texas Southern did go to Nashville for the Friday opener.

[X-band '01]

I think UC will also have to play Tennessee. They are no slouch.


As cool as it was to see- All I could think about was how it makes UC run that much easier. They have to be feeling great today.

In some ways, yes. But a potential regional final in Cat-lanta that involves either UC-UK or Tennessee-UK is going to be off the charts.

[xu koop scoop]

University Maryland Baltimore County. Is that correct. Kudos to them and more kudos. They have now won 25 games this year. They just SLAMMED the #1 team in the country by 20 Pts. I-ve been ill & barely struggled thru XU game before quickly heading to bed. There was nothing left to watch anyhow.
UMBC deserves their 2 days of fame before getting beat Sunday. They already deserve a spot in College Basketball Hall of Fame. How about UK getting an easy ride right now

[xu koop scoop]

Since University Maryland Baltimore Co just achieved something that MAY happen again - at least once every 150 games or so - I thought they deserved their own thread. The fact they beat a #1 seed by a resounding 20 pts reminds me of nothing I've seen.
I woke up at noon today to see this headline. I've bee ill, waiting for surgery & saw no reason to stay up past our game.
UMBC has now won 25 games & at least has a chance to beat Kansas St before seeing Kentucky. Oh! That's right UK has to get past
Buffalo. UK fans have to be jumping at their road to Elite 8 now. In the South Bracket you have #16, #13 & #11 Loyola advancing.
When I saw headlines today, I was expecting to hear about a buzzer beater with the crowd going wild. UMBC throws a 20 Pt beatdown
on a #1 who doesn't even deserve their name mentioned right now. Wonder if any Top 10 or Top 25 wants to schedule UMBC now.
Again, University Maryland Baltimore Co deserves their own thread. Anybody who takes down a #1 seed would deserve it.

[XUBison]

Yes, stunning upset!! The NCAA Tourney is the most exciting sporting event going but it is a "one and done" format with too many teams. That said, it is flawed and open to crowning a "National Champion" that is not the BEST TEAM in the country. UK or UC will make the F4. And if they should win it all, would anyone, other than their fan base, recognize either as the best team nationally? Of course not, they would simply be winners of a tournament.


It is your thinking that is flawed, because your premise is all wrong. It has never been about who’s the best, it is about who wins. That’s what competition is and why it is so great. It doesn’t matter who you THINK is the best, period. Sixty-eight programs of all types and sizes compete with each other, and the win or go home format means they all have a real chance to win and advance. This is exactly why the NCAA Tournament is the most perfect sporting event in existence.

[stammina0721]

Yes, stunning upset!! The NCAA Tourney is the most exciting sporting event going but it is a "one and done" format with too many teams. That said, it is flawed and open to crowning a "National Champion" that is not the BEST TEAM in the country. UK or UC will make the F4. And if they should win it all, would anyone, other than their fan base, recognize either as the best team nationally? Of course not, they would simply be winners of a tournament.

I couldn't disagree more. The NCAA tournament is the ultimate grind in its own way. Yes, it is a one and done tournament where the best team does not always win, however, it really exposes teams and challenges them in ways series format dont.

Take Virginia. They got crushed in what some, including myself, call one of the greatest upsets in sports history. However, I think it is now safe to say they would not have gotten much further. That's what makes the tournament great. You can't hide.

You need to have the ability to meet any matchup challenge you face. One day you may need to hit 12 threes and another you may need to win by keeping a team off the glass all game. Virginia couldn't meet the challenge. Their offensive deficiencies just couldn't be overcome.

By the time you get to the finish line only four teams are left. Those four teams usually have the personnel to survive the grind and play any necessary style to survive and advance. By the time it is all said and done I think we do truly get the nation's best team and true national champion

[D-West & PO-Z]

https://i.imgur.com/FcdHTz1_d.jpg

When my friend sent me this last night I literally laughed out loud.

[sirthought]

Take Virginia. They got crushed in what some, including myself, call one of the greatest upsets in sports history. However, I think it is now safe to say they would not have gotten much further. That's what makes the tournament great. You can't hide.

Come on...you're saying that compared to their regular season dominance, this one game shows they would have struggled to advance in any case? I agree that any team can lose on any given day, but this team certainly had a formula for winning against some great programs this year. That's not showing it was "safe to say they would not have gotten much further."

[GIMMFD]

Eh, you can't really say how far Virginia was going to go, how many nights will they shoot 18% from the 3, they were short Hunter, which seemed to be a major problem, and once UMBC pulled out into a big lead and had to force Virginia to play quicker they were out of their comfort zone. Basketball is a game of runs, that's why Mack's war analogy is so damn great, win the wars, win the game. Take things small chunks at a time, after Virginia dug themselves into a hole, they couldn't recover.

I will also say Tony Bennett was very classy in his post game interview, he could have made a bunch of excuses, but instead complimented UMBC and tried to remind people this won't define UVA. Sure, they will be a walking meme until they do some March damage, but at the end of the day, his team was beaten by a hungier UMBC team, that basically became the perfect storm. It's very hard to beat anybody that shoots 54% from the field, and 50% from the three point line, there's a lot of parity in college basketball as talent is spread out more than say football, and also with college basketball one damn good player makes a whole helluva lot more impact than in football.

Also, favorite tweet of the night. "Worst loss for Virginia since they lost half of their state in 1863." West Virginia, Best Virginia.

[xu koop scoop]

Swore I started this earlier. Kudos to UMBC on historic win. Not only a win, BUT BLOWING OUT #1 TEAM IN COUNTRY.
Kentucky is probably salivating game vs Kansas St or UMBC. Oh - They have to beat Buffalo 1st.
Again, Kudos to UNIVERSITY MARYLAND BALTIMOR COUNTY whose game got no mention on Countdown to Tipoff on CBS between 230 and 245 this afternoon.

[xu koop scoop]

Just making sure not getting removed. Buff 56 KY 63 at moment. Go little guys.

[BandAid]

There's a thread called "History is Made" discussing UMBC's win. One of the mods may have merged your thread with that one.

[xu82]

There's a thread called "History is Made" discussing UMBC's win. One of the mods may have merged your thread with that one.

I left the arena early to go watch that at a restaurant bar. I met a nice guy and his (very nice but very drunk) wife who was watching it intently. He would turn around to the rest of the people there and marvel “how do these people have no idea that history is being made here????” We had a dandy time! I slept in today...

[stammina0721]

Come on...you're saying that compared to their regular season dominance, this one game shows they would have struggled to advance in any case? I agree that any team can lose on any given day, but this team certainly had a formula for winning against some great programs this year. That's not showing it was "safe to say they would not have gotten much further."

All im really saying is that when you have only one style of play then in this tournament you will face your kryptonite at some point. The teams that advance and go far are the teams that can play multiple styles and adjust. Virginia just can't do that with how they play

[HenryMuto]

South has been blown up

#1 Virginia GONE
#3 Tennessee GONE
#4 Arizona GONE

Now just need Nevada to beat Cincinnati

[HenryMuto]

This gives Kentucky a free ride to the Elite 8, until they run into the Loyola Ramblers!!

I hope your a profit and we see Kentucky vs Loyola for the Final 4.

[HenryMuto]

Yes, stunning upset!! The NCAA Tourney is the most exciting sporting event going but it is a "one and done" format with too many teams. That said, it is flawed and open to crowning a "National Champion" that is not the BEST TEAM in the country. UK or UC will make the F4. And if they should win it all, would anyone, other than their fan base, recognize either as the best team nationally? Of course not, they would simply be winners of a tournament.

It make up for the times Kentucky was #1 overall seed and didn't win it or the time Kentucky went 38-0 and didn't win it to win it in a year like this when Kentucky was no where near the best team.

Would prefer a Kentucky vs Xavier National Championship game but hopefully both teams make the Final 4 somehow.

[paulxu]

I met a nice guy and his (very nice but very drunk) wife who was watching it intently.

That was Greg Marshall and his wife.

[Xuperman]

It is your thinking that is flawed, because your premise is all wrong. It has never been about who’s the best, it is about who wins. That’s what competition is and why it is so great. It doesn’t matter who you THINK is the best, period. Sixty-eight programs of all types and sizes compete with each other, and the win or go home format means they all have a real chance to win and advance

My thinking is crystal clear and my premise is spot on.....ALWAYS FOLLOW THE MONEY! The NCAA tourney has become a made for TV fund raiser and simply an over blown beauty pageant. HOWEVER, the format gets it right more times than not, and I DO LOVE IT!!

[Grizzx12]

A little late to this thread but was too drunk to find pants last night much less type. But this whole thing with UMBC is more than incredible and being a Binghamton alum I follow the AEast as well as X/Big East!!! UMBC were picked to finish 3rd in the conference, finished 8th in the conference in rebounding and their OOC conference wins were pitiful. Outside of N. Kentucky the best win was maybe Nichols St? Vermont has basically been steamrolling everyone else in the conference the past few years and just UMBC winning in Burlington was a massive upset albeit on a Lyles three at the buzzer if that surprises anyone. They had a really quiet year in conference and personally I didnt think they'd win a conference tourney game so my mind is totally blown because if there's one team that historically probably shouldn't have blown out a #1 overall seed it's UMBC. Although I say that and have to admit Lyles has been really good and received zero recognition for it in the conference awards and such.

Since I get to post about the AEast here and am feeling sentimental, if anyone is bored and wants a good read check out the Binghamton basketball scandal. Still havent really recovered from that whole mess in 2006 but at the same time I'm surprised we werent kicked out of D1. That team was the only time the program made the dance and had everything. Players fleeing the country, black mailing the school, UNC style fake classes, robbing Walmart of rubbers, etc.......

[Mel Cooley XU'81]

Retrievers?

Shouldn't UMBC's nickname be the Cords?

[XUBison]

My thinking is crystal clear and my premise is spot on.....ALWAYS FOLLOW THE MONEY! The NCAA tourney has become a made for TV fund raiser and simply an over blown beauty pageant. HOWEVER, the format gets it right more times than not, and I DO LOVE IT!!

I’m sorry, but no. Your assertion was that the tourney is flawed because it doesn’t always crown the best team, and this premise is wrong. The NCAA has never claimed that its trying to crown the best team, it simply crowns the winner. Given this, it cannot be flawed by failing to accomplish something it isn’t designed to accomplish, i.e. crowning the best team. It is a simple fact that you’re premise is wrong, not my opinion. Can you follow that? The remainder of your assertions are rendered meaningless since they are built off your false premise. Correct your premise, then you can see if your critique holds water. Otherwise you’re only spouting off with drivel.

[UCGRAD4X]

South has been blown up

#1 Virginia GONE
#3 Tennessee GONE
#4 Arizona GONE

Now just need Nevada to beat Cincinnati

Ask and ye shall receive.

And to stick with the OP - history is made when Nevada achieves the biggest second half comeback in NCAA tournament history!