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Xuperman
03-02-2018, 10:13 AM
I always look forward to the Conference awards and it is fun to make predictions. Picking ALL BIG EAST first teamers seems to be a given this year.
- BRUNSON
- BLUIETT
- MARTIN
- FOSTER
- DELGADO
- PONDS
I think they chose 6 last year. Chrabascz surprised me last year. Probably in part to the fact he was a senior. Could be done again for Rodriguez or Carrington or maybe Delgado gets edged out by Bridges? POY, duh. It's Brunson. Very hard to argue. The last 5 mins of reg and the OT at Seton Hall is a perfect example. IMO Bluiett and Foster deserve it just as much......FOY, Spellman....DPOY, Bridges. Mythical MVP, Ponds.

Lloyd Braun
03-02-2018, 10:27 AM
I could see Markus Howard getting several first team votes as well. Govan? Bridges is a beast.. this conference is loaded. The 2nd team will be stacked as well. Naji making a late push for FOY

Xuperman
03-02-2018, 10:33 AM
I would love to see Naj make a push and get it! But, he did not maintain his momentum in that direction vs PC. Do the selections come out before the tourney starts? If not he will certainly get it after he is the tournament MVP...:perfect10:

drudy23
03-02-2018, 10:52 AM
There's no reason Tre shouldn't get as much consideration as Brunson. If X wins title outright...Tre has just as many great games and clutch shots.

Xuperman
03-02-2018, 10:58 AM
Yeah, he will get plenty of consideration BUT he won't get it. The BE wants to give their top award to Brunson, so it pads his NATIONAL POY resume. All about continuing to enhance the leagues profile and brand.

Xuperman
03-02-2018, 11:08 AM
The All Big East Freshman first team will be interesting. How about

- SPELLMAN
- MARSHALL
- PICKETT
- BLAIR
- BALLOCK
- WATSON

D-West & PO-Z
03-02-2018, 11:10 AM
I wouldnt be surprised to see Delgado drop to second team this year.

It is going to be hard to keep Bridges off, but he is 6th in my mind so he may be 2nd team.

I'll say:
1st:
Brunson
Tre
Martin
Foster
Ponds
Bridges

2nd:
Howard
Delgado
Govan
Rowsey
Desi Rodriguez

Honorable Mentions: Cartwright, Carrington, Bullock

drudy23
03-02-2018, 11:13 AM
Yeah, he will get plenty of consideration BUT he won't get it. The BE wants to give their top award to Brunson, so it pads his NATIONAL POY resume. All about continuing to enhance the leagues profile and brand.

Why can't the same argument be made for Tre?

Xuperman
03-02-2018, 11:29 AM
Because no one outside Xavier Nation is touting Trevon as the National player of the year. Brunson is the favorite to win it for most everyone else.

Xuperman
03-02-2018, 11:33 AM
But hey, it's like the Kentucky Derby.....you got 20 horses in the race and every now and then a long shot wins!!!

XUFan09
03-02-2018, 01:15 PM
Yeah, he will get plenty of consideration BUT he won't get it. The BE wants to give their top award to Brunson, so it pads his NATIONAL POY resume. All about continuing to enhance the leagues profile and brand.I don't think Big East coaches are as calculating as you make them out to be, especially for an opposing player.

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Xuperman
03-02-2018, 01:21 PM
So only the 10 BE coaches vote for these awards? If so, can there be a shared POY?

THRILLHOUSE
03-02-2018, 01:25 PM
So only the 10 BE coaches vote for these awards? If so, can there be a shared POY?

Correct. Coaches do the voting and they cannot vote for their own player. Yes, there can be co-MVP's. Last time it happened was 2015 with Ryan Arcidiacono and Kris Dunn.

whopper
03-02-2018, 02:07 PM
What happened to Delgado? Looks to be injured to me, nothing like I recall. Mamu seems like a better option now when at start of year an afterthought.

Snipe
03-02-2018, 02:09 PM
I think Mack should vote for Mika’s Bridges.

Lloyd Braun
03-04-2018, 12:22 PM
This comes out today, correct?

Lloyd Braun
03-04-2018, 01:14 PM
Tre unanimous (http://www.bigeast.com/news/2018/3/4/mens-basketball-xaviers-bluiett-villanovas-brunson-butlers-martin-unanimously-named-all-big-east.aspx) first team

Lloyd Braun
03-04-2018, 01:17 PM
I wouldnt be surprised to see Delgado drop to second team this year.

It is going to be hard to keep Bridges off, but he is 6th in my mind so he may be 2nd team.

I'll say:
1st:
Brunson
Tre
Martin
Foster
Ponds
Bridges

2nd:
Howard
Delgado
Govan
Rowsey
Desi Rodriguez

Honorable Mentions: Cartwright, Carrington, Bullock

Very close.... Derrickson gets 2nd team

GIMMFD
03-04-2018, 01:20 PM
Tre unanimous (http://www.bigeast.com/news/2018/3/4/mens-basketball-xaviers-bluiett-villanovas-brunson-butlers-martin-unanimously-named-all-big-east.aspx) first team

Wouldn't expect anything less from Tre2K, also congrats to Naji for making the all Freshman Big East team.

paulxu
03-04-2018, 01:42 PM
Bluiett, a unanimous First Team selection by the league coaches, is one of only 13 players in league history to earn BIG EAST First Team honors three times.

http://goxavier.com/news/2018/3/4/mens-basketball-trevon-bluiett-named-first-team-all-big-east-conference-for-a-third-straight-year.aspx

whopper
03-04-2018, 01:56 PM
can't argue with any of it. We are the TEAM of the year..when you think of it I have read Devincenzo is now a projected first round pick and Spellman will be next year. Pascall is on the bubble too and hard to see how Booth would not be. We are doing it without a guaranteed first round pick in 2018 and I hope that Tre will prove he analysts wrong.

Xuperman
03-04-2018, 02:26 PM
The All Big East Freshman first team will be interesting. How about

- SPELLMAN
- MARSHALL
- PICKETT
- BLAIR
- BALLOCK
- WATSON

Cool, I picked the All Frosh team perfectly....:tonguewag:

AviatorX
03-04-2018, 04:34 PM
If Tre was athletic enough to play in the BE, he probably would've made 1st team all four years.

xu82
03-04-2018, 04:36 PM
JP is a lock to be First Team Thorn In Your Side! Probably Thorn of the Year, too!

XUGRAD80
03-04-2018, 04:43 PM
I’ll take Xavier’s 3-headed monster at center over any other single post player in the conference.

If Mack isn’t coach of the year there should be a congressional investigation....only 1 BE player on the 1st team, none on the 2nd or HM, and 1 player on the freshman team.....and they still win the BE regular season championship.

D-West & PO-Z
03-04-2018, 04:46 PM
If Tre was athletic enough to play in the BE, he probably would've made 1st team all four years.

We can only wish....sigh

D-West & PO-Z
03-04-2018, 04:47 PM
Very close.... Derrickson gets 2nd team

Yeah nailed first team but couple misses on second. Surprised it was Derrickson over Govan. Thomas on second team was a surprise to me as well.

GIMMFD
03-04-2018, 04:59 PM
I’ll take Xavier’s 3-headed monster at center over any other single post player in the conference.

If Mack isn’t coach of the year there should be a congressional investigation....only 1 BE player on the 1st team, none on the 2nd or HM, and 1 player on the freshman team.....and they still win the BE regular season championship.

We were supposed to be challenging for the title before the season, so no idea how much that would play into it, but I do agree, I fully believe Mack did a phenomenal job of coaching this year and deserves a BE COY award. I mean, we went 15-3 through that gauntlet?? It wasn't pretty at times, but they got the W's in the column, and that's all that matters.

xu82
03-04-2018, 05:16 PM
We were supposed to be challenging for the title before the season, so no idea how much that would play into it, but I do agree, I fully believe Mack did a phenomenal job of coaching this year and deserves a BE COY award. I mean, we went 15-3 through that gauntlet?? It wasn't pretty at times, but they got the W's in the column, and that's all that matters.

No kidding! The most amazing part of this season for me was how many times we faced some serious adversity only to make the comeback or prevail in OT. I pray that experience under pressure is helpful going though the next few weeks and beyond.

Snipe
03-04-2018, 06:01 PM
I’ll take Xavier’s 3-headed monster at center over any other single post player in the conference.

If Mack isn’t coach of the year there should be a congressional investigation....only 1 BE player on the 1st team, none on the 2nd or HM, and 1 player on the freshman team.....and they still win the BE regular season championship.

I think Mack did the best coaching job in the league but many times they don't give it to the league Champ. That isn't a bad tradition either, because Mack will be happy with the league trophy anyway.

Masterofreality
03-04-2018, 06:06 PM
Bulletin Board motivation for JP.

JTG
03-04-2018, 06:33 PM
Bulletin Board motivation for JP.

An angry JP is a ferocious JP, and a world of trouble for anyone we face.

XUFan09
03-04-2018, 09:03 PM
If Tre was athletic enough to play in the BE, he probably would've made 1st team all four years.This never gets old lol.

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XUFan09
03-04-2018, 09:10 PM
Bulletin Board motivation for JP.Definitely. I think he sacrificed an all-conference selection by taking on the role he had this year. He became more of a playmaker than a scorer, so there were games where he didn't have a clear direct impact but still influenced the game. Really, I think J.P. might be the best "hustle player" in the country. It's just a role that isn't as noteworthy when it comes to awards and accolades.

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Lloyd Braun
03-04-2018, 09:21 PM
If Tre was athletic enough to play in the BE, he probably would've made 1st team all four years.

You can forget about all-tournament team because it’s better served if they shut him down and he rests his shoulder.

GIMMFD
03-04-2018, 09:44 PM
Definitely. I think he sacrificed an all-conference selection by taking on the role he had this year. He became more of a playmaker than a scorer, so there were games where he didn't have a clear direct impact but still influenced the game. Really, I think J.P. might be the best "hustle player" in the country. It's just a role that isn't as noteworthy when it comes to awards and accolades.

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Agreed, JP works his tail off and you won't see that in the box score, but his value cannot be undermined. He brings a lot of attention, and not to mention him chirping really gets into the head of opponents. He took on the perfect role for us this year, sacrificing a bunch, and has been a helluva teammate for the process. I still think we'll have another game where JP goes off for 20+ though before it's all said and done.

muethibp
03-04-2018, 10:10 PM
A player like JP - who has a well-honed skill in aggravating other teams and players and refs and, well, everyone not on or rooting for Xavier - is always going to be way up against it when it comes to voting by other coaches who just don’t really like him.

UCGRAD4X
03-05-2018, 09:43 AM
A player like JP - who has a well-honed skill in aggravating other teams and players and refs and, well, everyone not on or rooting for Xavier - is always going to be way up against it when it comes to voting by other coaches who just don’t really like him.

This is a good point. Since Mack can't vote for his own player and other coaches won't...

Actually, I suspect most of the other coaches have a good deal of respect for JP and secretly wish he was on their team or some of his players would channel a little JP now and then (probably not the pants/fake ID thing).

Even so, they probably wouldn't vote for him anyway because...because....well, because he's our f-ing JP!

X Factor
03-05-2018, 09:57 AM
A player like JP - who has a well-honed skill in aggravating other teams and players and refs and, well, everyone not on or rooting for Xavier - is always going to be way up against it when it comes to voting by other coaches who just don’t really like him.

The same coaches voted him 6th Man of the Year his sophmore year.

The BE is full of really good players, and JP just didn't do enough this year to make 2nd team.

Xuperman
03-05-2018, 11:11 AM
The BE is full of really good players, and JP just didn't do enough this year to make 2nd team.

That's correct. Carrington is the most deserving with no accolades.

American X
03-06-2018, 08:56 AM
Is the Player of the Year awarded strictly by coaches' voting? Could the Big East share the award between Bluiett and Brunson? I understand if it goes to Brunson, but a very strong case exists for the best player on the conference champion.

Also, the idea that the Big East has Honorable Mention and it does not include J.P. Macura is comical. Are they following strict voting rules? Does the conference administration not have any authority in adjusting the lists?

xu95
03-06-2018, 09:33 AM
I believe it is strictly on coaches voting. I don't believe the conference fudges the numbers at all.

xu95

Lloyd Braun
03-07-2018, 04:37 PM
Mack COY
Brunson POY

novachap
03-07-2018, 04:56 PM
Congrats Coach Mack---- so deserved. What a great job. My favorite non-Wright coach. The best out of bounds plays in the league if not the ncaa are just part of what he brings to the table. His passion and toughness are fun to watch. Great sense of humor too. With the pic of him with Brunson and Spellman on the award stage---- thinking he had to be thinking can I get Spellman to transfer!

Irishjohn68
03-07-2018, 10:51 PM
Should have been co-players of the year. Congrats to Coach Mack.

GIMMFD
03-07-2018, 10:54 PM
Congrats Coach Mack---- so deserved. What a great job. My favorite non-Wright coach. The best out of bounds plays in the league if not the ncaa are just part of what he brings to the table. His passion and toughness are fun to watch. Great sense of humor too. With the pic of him with Brunson and Spellman on the award stage---- thinking he had to be thinking can I get Spellman to transfer!

You're a good man Novachap, appreciate the kind words, we're very blessed to have Coach Mack around, and I think he's miles better than a lot of names that get floated out consistently. He obviously loves his job, and it's been awesome to watch him grow as a coach and mentor to these guys over the years!! And congratulations to Brunson, the guy is an absolute gamer, and deserves that accolade. He's a helluva player, and I'd love to have him on X.