Gonzaga to the Big East?

[OTRMUSKIE]

Not sure if this was brought up but according to Doug Gottlieb Gonzaga is in talks with the mountain west and the Big East for basketball only. I think it makes 100% sense for the Zags to join the Big East in Men’s basketball only. I mean the rest of the teams just have to travel to Spokane once a year. If Gonzaga is okay with doing all the traveling then I say bring them in!!!! This conference will be #1/2 almost every year if we brought them in and they continued to be successfull.

[xu82]

I’m not anti-Gonzaga by any means, but I love our current status and a neat home and away format.

[GIMMFD]

Yeah I love the process of playing everybody home and away, but Gonzaga would definitely add strength and power to the conference, the monster would just get that much stronger. What we would need however would be a second team to join with so we could keep things balanced. It would make it a lot easier for scheduling and formatting, but even if it's the Zags alone, I'm all for it.

[smileyy]

Sounds like the MWC is far more likely for Gonzaga.

[OTRMUSKIE]

You would still have a round robin. You would just do 20 conf games.

[BMoreX]

FWIW, there’s no such thing as basketball only according to NCAA.

Gonzaga would have to join the Big East in all sports.

[Xville]

They fit the profile and the league could go to 20 league games. I think I have heard a lot of conferences are starting to go that route anyways. That would be a ton of travel for them, but I guess let them worry about that.

[MuskieXU]

I would love to add Gonzaga. Go to 20 games, which seems to be the way things are headed. Everyone says itd be too tough with the travel but Hawaii is in a league with California teams and they make it work, so the BE could definitely make it work

[xu82]

Stay well, Mark Few!


I may sound negative, but that’s not the case. I just like where we are today.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Did they change the rule on this. I know Temple played football only in the big east

[xavierj]

FWIW, there’s no such thing as basketball only according to NCAA.

Gonzaga would have to join the Big East in all sports.

Navy plays football in the American but not other sports. Notre Dame is not in a football conference but plays all other sports in the ACC.

[bleedXblue]

No way they join the Big East..........just doesn't make logistical sense. They're likely using the BE to leverage the MWC.

[BMoreX]

Navy plays football in the American but not other sports. Notre Dame is not in a football conference but plays all other sports in the ACC.

Because football is a caveat.

Whatever conference your basketball teams are in is your “home” conference. Basketball only doesn’t exist per NCAA bylaws.

[MHettel]

I’ve long held the view that Gonzaga is the last remaining brand out there to be eventually gobbled up by a power conference. To get them, the BE would have to add several team to bridge the gap across the country. It’s unreasonable for the zags to make 10 cross country trips each season. St. Mary’s fits the profile, and is seemingly ready to move up too. BE would need to expand to 16 teams to get this done. 2 divisions of 8. Have to add SLU, UD, Zags, st Mary’s, and 2 others. Richmond, Seattle u (all the resources but none of the success), and maybe Detroit mercy or some similar school to get it done.

I know a lot of these teams are not ready for the move from a resource perspective, but the association with the BE would immediately change their access to resources.

All in all, a giant stretch. As much as I’d like to see Gonzaga be part of the BE, the distance just cant be bridged...

[bleedXblue]

I’ve long held the view that Gonzaga is the last remaining brand out there to be eventually gobbled up by a power conference. To get them, the BE would have to add several team to bridge the gap across the country. It’s unreasonable for the zags to make 10 cross country trips each season. St. Mary’s fits the profile, and is seemingly ready to move up too. BE would need to expand to 16 teams to get this done. 2 divisions of 8. Have to add SLU, UD, Zags, st Mary’s, and 2 others. Richmond, Seattle u (all the resources but none of the success), and maybe Detroit mercy or some similar school to get it done.

I know a lot of these teams are not ready for the move from a resource perspective, but the association with the BE would immediately change their access to resources.

All in all, a giant stretch. As much as I’d like to see Gonzaga be part of the BE, the distance just cant be bridged...

That would be a horrible move. Add a bunch of average to below average programs to gain one good one. NFW

[XUFan09]

It's also based off an outdated idea of travel partners. You go on the road to play one team on a Thursday and then you swing over to another nearby team and play them on Saturday (or a Friday/Sunday setup, but you get the idea). It made sense then. Now, teams almost always go home between games, so there's no need for it.

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[xavierj]

No thanks on adding more than 1 team. Why water it down? Only way Gonzaga would work is a few three game road trips. At DePaul, Butler, Xavier, Thursday, Saturday, Monday for example. Gonzaga can add value but Dayton and Saint Louis would not. Why add teams that would add recruiting battles with the other teams and why would you want to add more money sharing?

[Muskie]

I’m not interested in Gonzaga. Why mess with a good thing right now?


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[JTG]

I’ve long held the view that Gonzaga is the last remaining brand out there to be eventually gobbled up by a power conference. To get them, the BE would have to add several team to bridge the gap across the country. It’s unreasonable for the zags to make 10 cross country trips each season. St. Mary’s fits the profile, and is seemingly ready to move up too. BE would need to expand to 16 teams to get this done. 2 divisions of 8. Have to add SLU, UD, Zags, st Mary’s, and 2 others. Richmond, Seattle u (all the resources but none of the success), and maybe Detroit mercy or some similar school to get it done.

I know a lot of these teams are not ready for the move from a resource perspective, but the association with the BE would immediately change their access to resources.

All in all, a giant stretch. As much as I’d like to see Gonzaga be part of the BE, the distance just cant be bridged...

Sorry, now you are talking absolute nonsense. Talk about ruining a good thing by adding lots of garbage. No, just, no.

[Xville]

No thanks on adding more than 1 team. Why water it down? Only way Gonzaga would work is a few three game road trips. At DePaul, Butler, Xavier, Thursday, Saturday, Monday for example. Gonzaga can add value but Dayton and Saint Louis would not. Why add teams that would add recruiting battles with the other teams and why would you want to add more money sharing?

How would adding Gonzaga water it down? They are a great program and have much of the same views as others in the conference. Also, it could open up a lot more recruiting to the western side of the country for other programs in the conference.

[waggy]

I think adding Gonzaga is a horrible idea.

[Juice]

Adding Gonzaga in a vacuum is a good idea. Adding Gonzaga with all the other complications that go along with it (travel, increasing the conf. schedule to 20 games to keep home and away, costs, etc.) is a bad idea.

[bjf123]

Adding Gonzaga in a vacuum is a good idea. Adding Gonzaga with all the other complications that go along with it (travel, increasing the conf. schedule to 20 games to keep home and away, costs, etc.) is a bad idea.

This. Plus, it’s the Big EAST. A school from Washington State does not belong in Big East for any reason. If we’re going to add a school, bring in UConn, though I don’t know what they do about football.

I also think Rutgers, Maryland, and Nebraska don’t belong in the Big 10, Texas A&M doesn’t belong in the SEC, etc.


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[MHettel]

Sorry, now you are talking absolute nonsense. Talk about ruining a good thing by adding lots of garbage. No, just, no.

Was there a point in my post where I expressed any favor at all for this? I didn’t give my opinion or view about the scenario. But you “disagree” with me.

We can’t just “add Gonzaga to the Big East.” In order to achieve the one thing you want, you would also have to accept that you would also have to add a handful of teams that you wouldn’t want. For that reason, the upside of adding the Zags is fully diluted by the related adds of other teams that would not by themselves get much (if any) consideration to join.

[xu95]

This. Plus, it’s the Big EAST. A school from Washington State does not belong in Big East for any reason. If we’re going to add a school, bring in UConn, though I don’t know what they do about football.

I also think Rutgers, Maryland, and Nebraska don’t belong in the Big 10, Texas A&M doesn’t belong in the SEC, etc.


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UCONN would be a horrible choice. Thomas More could beat them right now.

[drudy23]

Gonzaga is a great add; however, I just can't see them traveling all the way across the country to play games in every sport. That would get old real quick.

[xeus]

UCONN would be a horrible choice. Thomas More could beat them right now.

That's funny. When a UC friend told me this weekend that the Big East is a "shell of its former self" I replied, "Yeah, it really sucks without UConn."

[Michigan Muskie]

That's funny. When a UC friend told me this weekend that the Big East is a "shell of its former self" I replied, "Yeah, it really sucks without UConn."

This league is nothing without Pitt.

[bjf123]

UCONN would be a horrible choice. Thomas More could beat them right now.

Agreed. Right now, they do suck. Long term, I don’t expect that to continue.


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[nuts4xu]

If the Big East expands it will add one school, and one school only. The current programs favor the true round robin format and you can’t have more than 20 conference games in a season. I don’t think Gonzaga makes sense for a lot of reasons, and don’t see them joining the big east.

[Xavier]

I really like the round robin format but I wouldn’t let that get in the way of expanding to good programs. Even 20 conference games seems like a lot and logistically it doesn’t make sense but I’d love to snag Gonzaga.

[JTG]

Tv would make no sense either. Their weeknight away games would start at 3 or 5pm
Conversely their home games would start at 9pm or midnight in the east...it just doesn't work

[sirthought]

Gonzaga would be a poor choice for all the reasons mentioned. Travel, TV time slots, ending a system of games that works great now.

Big East has a super collection of school programs. The level of competition has been really strong and attractive to high school athletes. They have a wonderful media contract that is growing in demand each season. Gonzaga is a quality program, but I see no reason to mess with what they have.

[OTRMUSKIE]

It’s only an issue for Gonzaga. Who cares if it cause games to be on at 3:30 their time. If they want to do the traveling I say bring them on. Men’s basketball only which I guess isn’t allowed?

[XUFan09]

It’s only an issue for Gonzaga. Who cares if it cause games to be on at 3:30 their time. If they want to do the traveling I say bring them on. Men’s basketball only which I guess isn’t allowed?Correct. All other sports would also have to travel. That's really the problem; the travel for the basketball team wouldn't be ideal, but the travel for all other sports would be miserable.

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[xeus]

It’s only an issue for Gonzaga. Who cares if it cause games to be on at 3:30 their time.

The advertisers care. No sense adding a media market if no one there is watching the games.

[MHettel]

The advertisers care. No sense adding a media market if no one there is watching the games.

Spokane isn’t much of a media market. It’s not really a sports town, in fact.

If you add Gonzaga, it’s not to attract viewers in Spokane. It’s to attract the general bball fan to watch a team with some name recognition

[Xavier]

Tv would make no sense either. Their weeknight away games would start at 3 or 5pm
Conversely their home games would start at 9pm or midnight in the east...it just doesn't work

Didn't even think about that. Wouldn't work at all unless you brought in more teams closer to them. Not worth it. Wouldn't mind adding them to the non conference schedule though.

[Cheesehead]

The school and program are a good fit. The geography, not so much. The travel costs for the non-revenue sports would be sky high. End of debate.

[xeus]

Spokane isn’t much of a media market. It’s not really a sports town, in fact.

If you add Gonzaga, it’s not to attract viewers in Spokane. It’s to attract the general bball fan to watch a team with some name recognition

Regardless of whether they are viewers in Spokane or "general bball fan to watch a team with some name recognition" they ain't tuning in during Ellen.

[GoMuskies]

Gonzaga could play all of their games at 9 Eastern. 6pm local time games aren't unusual outside of the Eastern time zone. I think that is the least of the issues.

[bleedXblue]

delete this thread and move on, this isn't happening

[JTG]

delete this thread and move on, this isn't happening

This

[XU 87]

BE would need to expand to 16 teams to get this done. 2 divisions of 8. Have to add SLU, UD, Zags, st Mary’s, and 2 others. Richmond, Seattle u (all the resources but none of the success), and maybe Detroit mercy or some similar school to get it done.



I think I can say with 100% confidence that the BE is not looking to expand to include schools such as Detroit Mercy and Seattle.

[OTRMUSKIE]

It makes sense if they can do basketball only otherwise you’re correct.

[xu82]

In order to consider entry, we need to know that we come out with a win if we meet them in the west in the next few weeks.

Yeah, I’m not above that kind of thing. :)

[JTG]

Two things I hope to never hear again, Let's get Gonzaga in the Big East and We're wearing the running man uniforms.

[Muskie]

Two things I hope to never hear again, Let's get Gonzaga in the Big East and We're wearing the running man uniforms.

What about Chris Mack coaching Gonzaga in the Big East while wearing a running man throwback?


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[JTG]

Those things are cursed, 2 losses and an overtime win, that save a favorable call from a ref we should have lost. Burn em. And for God's sake don't wear em in the tournament.