Early Top 4 seed reveal show 2/11/18

[OTRMUSKIE]

CBS is going to reveal the top 16 teams tomorrow at 1230. X will def be a 1. The question is what do u do with UC? Obviously it’s just for fun and this doesn’t mean anything but nonetheless I can’t wait to see what they say.

[HenryMuto]

X will be #3 overall is my guess.

I think Cincy should be a #4 seed but I feel the committee will give them a #3 seed. They have not beat anyone who is in the tournament for sure but they only have 2 losses and have all those quad 1 and 2 wins of non tourney teams.

[Xuperman]

I assume they try and simulate how the actual committee will seed 1-16 and if that is the case, UC should land around 10 and a 3 seed.

[HenryMuto]

WTF the announcer who is doing the UNLV/Wyoming game on CBS just said his 4 #1 seeds would be Virginia, Nova, Cincinnati and Purdue........

[HenryMuto]

I assume they try and simulate how the actual committee will seed 1-16 and if that is the case, UC should land around 10 and a 3 seed.

Yes they seed it as if the season had ended and where they would actually be 1-16.

Last year 15 of the 16 teams they gave a top 4 seed to held a top 4 seed in the Final bracket.

I wonder if Cincy gets a 2 seed because everyone and their brother is losing. I would give them a 4 myself but I think the committee gives them at least a 3 hope I am wrong they get a 4 which is what I believe they deserve.

[Xuperman]

That announcer must be related to stammina.

[PeteXU]

I think X will be the third one seed. As far as UC, I think they will be a 3 seed, and I think that’s fair. Their conference schedule is backloaded,so they will have an opportunity to improve what is currently a rather hallow resume. They take care of business and they easily could be a 2 seed. Stumble a couple times down the stretch and a 4 or even worse is certainly possible. But as far as the Musketeers go, it’s hard for me to see them ending up worse than a 2. Even if they went 3-3 down the stretch, they’d still finish at 25-6 with a bunch of good wins.

[xu82]

This feels like announcing the Super Bowl winner a year ago after the third quarter. Time to finish the season.....

[HenryMuto]

My Kentucky team sucks this year they will be an 8 seed and would be lucky to win 1 game in the tournament this year. That said I don't want X, Ohio State or Kentucky in the same bracket area. Final Four ok but not before.

[muskienick]

WTF the announcer who is doing the UNLV/Wyoming game on CBS just said his 4 #1 seeds would be Virginia, Nova, Cincinnati and Purdue........

And that exactly why he's doing games of an also-ran Conference instead of games in one of the top 6-7 conferences in the Country. He's got to try to justify where he is working by picking at least one team from a so-so league among the top four seeds.

[gladdenguy]

My Kentucky team sucks this year they will be an 8 seed and would be lucky to win 1 game in the tournament this year. That said I don't want X, Ohio State or Kentucky in the same bracket area. Final Four ok but not before.

Have we asked you this question.....but how can you root for Xavier AND Kentucky AND Ohio State. That is a little over the top. Were you happy when Ron Lewis hit that shot against X? I just wanna know the story behind this. Is there a distinct #1, #2, and #3? So many questions

[GoMuskies]

Henry appears to be a Wichita State guy, too.

[xu82]

Henry appears to be a Wichita State guy, too.

You mean....they all get participation trophies? How....meaningful.....

[Xavier]

Xavier will be a 1 and UC a 2/3. And if I had to put money on it I’d say X finishes as a 2 seed and UC a 3

[OTRMUSKIE]

I agree I think x ends up a 2 and UC a 3. Eventually these close games are going to bite X in the butt. I just hope it happens in the regular season.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I assume they try and simulate how the actual committee will seed 1-16 and if that is the case, UC should land around 10 and a 3 seed.

It is the actual committee releasing these seeds.

[xu82]

It is the actual committee releasing these seeds.

Which leads to the natural question......WHY?

What’s to be gained? Do they profit significantly? Don’t they make enough already?

Finish the season, THEN talk about the post-season. This old fart is not a fan of crap like this.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Which leads to the natural question......WHY?

What’s to be gained? Do they profit significantly? Don’t they make enough already?

Finish the season, THEN talk about the post-season. This old fart is not a fan of crap like this.

My guess is they are trying to go the route of the football weekly top 4 announcements for the football playoff.

Drum up interest? It must make money. More transparency? I dunno but I dont mind it.

I dont think I watched last year because we werent close to a top 4 seed. I actually forgot they were even doing it until about 2 weeks ago.

[HenryMuto]

Have we asked you this question.....but how can you root for Xavier AND Kentucky AND Ohio State. That is a little over the top. Were you happy when Ron Lewis hit that shot against X? I just wanna know the story behind this. Is there a distinct #1, #2, and #3? So many questions

Live in Northeast Ohio. My mother was born in Kentucky. I do have a #1, #2 and #3 but I don't think your going to like it.

I live and die with all 4 of my teams (except Cleveland State is no longer ever any good so not so much with them currently).

Losing each game hurts pretty bad especially when the 3 are really good teams.

I really hate when any of the teams play each other especially in the NCAA tournament.

That 2007 game was really amazing game and if the teams play each other in the tournament I will root for one of them if they are clearly a better etam because I want the team with the best chance to win the Championship to go on. If the teams are close on skill I just watch it play out. In 2012 I nearly got my dream game when Kentucky and Ohio State both made the Final Four if both had made the Championship game then that been the greatest game ever for me I would have just watched and whoever won wins the championship and I am happy either way.

So ya in 2007 I rooted for Ohio State over Xavier because I felt Ohio State had the much better shot to win the championship (they made it to the finals before losing to Florida that year). I also knew X would be bringing back a ton of talent in 2008 and Ohio State would lose all the one and doners.

Every year when the brackets come out my first thing to look for is I pray that each of the 3 teams are in different regions.

That 2011 Kentucky vs Ohio State game was the most brutal game I ever had I really didn't root that game I just let it play out and rooted for the winner.

Kentucky not so good this year. Would be rooting for X this year if any of the 3 met because X clearly has the best of the 3 teams. That said I pray it don't happen. Ohio State fans are pretty bitter at me for rooting for Kentucky and X. There are some there that won't accept me as a fan for it. Such is life.

[HenryMuto]

Henry appears to be a Wichita State guy, too.

I root for all mid majors. Now that Wichita State is no longer in a mid major conference it's a little different but still want them to beat the hell out of Cincinnati.

I don't root for anyone over Kentucky, Ohio State, Xavier or Cleveland State.

[Emp]

Geese, this is so emotional. 🙄

But I get it. Of course we all have emotional responses to our teams. There is no accounting for taste, or sports allegiances......NOR ANY NEED TO,! Hell im stuck with the Lions. But I digress.

We're fans of our teams. This is a a damn fine time to be a Xavier fan, but many fans hope for their teams not named Xavier. I can't get mad or distracted by that.

[sirthought]

Which leads to the natural question......WHY?

What’s to be gained? Do they profit significantly? Don’t they make enough already?

Finish the season, THEN talk about the post-season. This old fart is not a fan of crap like this.

I think they've been doing this for a while, no? I recall when Dustin Dow was a reporter on the X beat he got to sit in on this. It just helps generate hype for the tournament time in more markets. Not everyone follows the game like we do, so it helps to have something to point to for conversation.

[paulxu]

I root for all mid majors. Now that Wichita State is no longer in a mid major conference it's a little different but still want them to beat the hell out of Cincinnati.

Wichita State is still in a mid major conference.

[paulxu]

Also, Lunardi jumps the gun this morning with his own top 16.
Nova
Virginia
X
Purdue

After all the ESPN crap about the BE being dead, it must bother somebody to have 2 #1's from our conference. Ha!

[muskiefan82]

Wow. None of the blue bloods there. No Duke, unc, uk, Kansas, Arizona. None. Love it.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I think they've been doing this for a while, no? I recall when Dustin Dow was a reporter on the X beat he got to sit in on this. It just helps generate hype for the tournament time in more markets. Not everyone follows the game like we do, so it helps to have something to point to for conversation.

No what you are thinking of is different. What Dow did was started a while ago where basketball writers were invited in to learn the process to better understand and report it etc.

What is happening tomorrow started last year. It is the actual committee releasing what would be the actual top 4 seeds in each region right now.

EDIT: I think the writers, or at least ESPN's writers, even then went and did their own mock selection around February after, but again different than what is happening today.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Also, Lunardi jumps the gun this morning with his own top 16.
Nova
Virginia
X
Purdue

After all the ESPN crap about the BE being dead, it must bother somebody to have 2 #1's from our conference. Ha!

Yeah and he said " If the Musketeers can win their rematch with Villanova next Saturday, remaining on the top line isn't out of the question."

Like no freaking shit its not out of the question.

He predicts we end up a 2 seed, 8th on the S-curve

[JTG]

Wow. None of the blue bloods there. No Duke, unc, uk, Kansas, Arizona. None. Love it.

If this comes to pass in March I fully expect for Espn to declare this is an off year for CBB, blah blah blah,ignore the FF. Their usual Bilas, Vitale line of bullshit.

[paulxu]

If this comes to pass in March I fully expect for Espn to declare this is an off year for CBB, blah blah blah,ignore the FF. Their usual Bilas, Vitale line of bullshit.

You don't have to wait until March for it. Just watch this little video.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/22390420/all-answers-selection-sunday-month-selection-sunday

[bleedXblue]

Yeah and he said " If the Musketeers can win their rematch with Villanova next Saturday, remaining on the top line isn't out of the question."

Like no freaking shit its not out of the question.

He predicts we end up a 2 seed, 8th on the S-curve

So let me understand this ridiculous statement by Lunardi.

Nova loses to St Johns and stay a solid # 1. How if we lose to Nova would we drop out of a #1 spot?

We wont drop in the RPI much if at all.......

Geesh the stupidity some of these guys possess

[XUFan09]

I decided to do my own "quick" rundown of the top 16, just as a guess heading into this. There is so much chaos this year in basketball that seeding these teams is hard and putting them precisely on an S-curve is really difficult. I meant to have this posted more than 15 minutes before the show, but oh well, we can see how much I suck or don't suck:

1. Villanova
2. Virginia
3. Xavier
4. Purdue

5. Auburn
6. Kansas
7. Clemson
8. Texas Tech

9. UNC
10. Duke
11. Gonzaga
12. Cincinnati

13. Michigan State
14. Tennessee
15. Oklahoma
16. West Virginia

Towards the end, I was just looking through the Nitty Gritty trying to find teams because someone has to round out the top 16. Like I said, chaos.

[letskeepitreal]

Wow, you really don’t like MSU do you?

[XUFan09]

Wow, you really don’t like MSU do you?

Not really, but I could definitely see them as a 3 seed, maybe even the highest 3 seed and I wouldn't put them too much lower than where I did. Really, there is just a lot of variance in where to place them.

[STL_XUfan]

The CBS music makes me happy. That is all

[XU-PA]

The past week or so seems to have been a race out of the top 8 , rather that a race to the top. Except for X that is.

[HenryMuto]

I think 14 of the 16 teams are locks then 2 out of 4 to claim the last 2 spots between (Rhode Island Oklahoma, Arizona and West Virginia). Rhode Island has great RPI but only 6 top 100 equiv wins. Overall 1/2 is a coin flip. #3 Xavier for sure in my book. #4 overall could be 1 of several teams just depends on what the committee looks for. This is why this really helps out for March selections you will know right now how they view teams like MSU, Cincy and Ohio State instead of pure guessing in March which leads to different people having them 2-3 seeds apart. Of course that was the fun in the past and how I have done so well compared to most people and now I lose that edge though last year it sure didn't hurt me.

Ok I didn't study this much so this is much of a gut feel list.

1 seeds - Virginia, Villanova, Xavier, Purdue
2 seeds - Michigan State, Kansas, Auburn, Texas Tech
3 seeds - Clemson, Duke, Cincinnati, Tennessee
4 seeds - North Carolina, Ohio State, Arizona, Rhode Island

[GoMuskies]

The CBS music makes me happy. That is all

You could watch the American on CBS Sports Network and hear that music all season.

Yeah, totally not worth it.

[XUFan09]

I decided to do my own "quick" rundown of the top 16, just as a guess heading into this. There is so much chaos this year in basketball that seeding these teams is hard and putting them precisely on an S-curve is really difficult. I meant to have this posted more than 15 minutes before the show, but oh well, we can see how much I suck or don't suck:

1. Villanova
2. Virginia
3. Xavier
4. Purdue

5. Auburn
6. Kansas
7. Clemson
8. Texas Tech

9. UNC
10. Duke
11. Gonzaga
12. Cincinnati

13. Michigan State
14. Tennessee
15. Oklahoma
16. West Virginia

Towards the end, I was just looking through the Nitty Gritty trying to find teams because someone has to round out the top 16. Like I said, chaos.

I just realized I forgot to include Ohio State. I don't know if I would have put them in (4 seed line) or not, but I simply forgot about them.

[GoMuskies]

Kansas STILL as a #2 seed. Jesus, if they're a #2 seed I pray to God they're in our region.

[BMoreX]

Xavier is the third #1 seed, slated for Omaha, NE at the Centurylink Center.

[HenryMuto]

Well I got the top 4 in exact order the reason I had Virginia over Nova is Virginia has 4 top 10 RPI wins and Nova only had 1 I let that be the difference. Almost everyone I looked at today had Nova over Virginia. I was one of the very few that had Purdue on the 1 line I just felt after looking at the teams despite back to back losses they still had best resume and I got that right.

Cincy a 2 seed.............wtf ? Seriously come on committee they really are awarding the "quad 1/2 number wins" over the actual teams they beat another reason why Michigan State has not shown up yet.

I don't agree at all with that I think who you actually beat is more important then an RPI number.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Auburn as ur 2 seed? Dont mind that!

[XUFan09]

Duke and Cincinnati were the weird ones for me to rank. Interesting.

[sirthought]

I'm pleased so far!

[stammina0721]

Very weird having Virginia number 1 overall and Kansas as a 2

[XUFan09]

I was one of the very few that had Purdue on the 1 line I just felt after looking at the teams despite back to back losses they still had best resume and I got that right.


Bracket Matrix average seed for Purdue was 1.28, right behind Xavier (1.19). The next highest was Kansas at 1.74. So, A LOT of people had Purdue as a 1 seed.

[BMoreX]

Please let this stay.

[GoMuskies]

Do losses not matter? Kansas is not good

[stammina0721]

All I can say is I absolutely love this region. The Midwest gets Xavier into the final four as is right now

[Xville]

Geez let this happen....cakewalk to the final four.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Please let this stay.

I love our region. That would be great.

[Emp]

I'm thinking Creighton fans in Omaha may not be pulling for us so much if we end up there.

[XUFan09]

Wow, you really don’t like MSU do you?


Not really, but I could definitely see them as a 3 seed, maybe even the highest 3 seed and I wouldn't put them too much lower than where I did. Really, there is just a lot of variance in where to place them.

Looks like I wasn't far off. Just 2 spots in the S-curve.

[XU-PA]

Well, that was fun!!!
Especially loved Seth David smackdown of the other Northen Kentucky University

[Xavier]

What a bracket. Pointless, but would be absolutely perfect.

[HenryMuto]

Went 15/16 I missed the final team I did say 2 of 4 teams would via for last 2 spots got 1 right (Arizona) got 1 wrong (Had Rhode Island who I didn't feel should be a 4 but I didn't think WVU or Oklahoma should get there but I thought it was still possible)

I understand why Michigan State was so low I only pushed them up so high because I thought the committee would fall into the trap of the name and overall ranking and overall record but glad to be wrong as I really felt they didn't deserve a 2 seed based on resume.

Their resume isn't that great. Only 6 quad 1/2 wins which is the lowest of any of the 16 teams that made it.

February 11, 2018 at 9:45 AM Delete

[HenryMuto]

Bracket Matrix average seed for Purdue was 1.28, right behind Xavier (1.19). The next highest was Kansas at 1.74. So, A LOT of people had Purdue as a 1 seed.

Not sure Bracket Matrix was updated yet after Purdue loss. Either way I don't look there I look at the 4-5 sites I follow who all had someone other than Purdue.

[XUFan09]

Not sure Bracket Matrix was updated yet after Purdue loss. Either way I don't look there I look at the 4-5 sites I follow who all had someone other than Purdue.

A lot of the brackets were updated after Saturday games in anticipation of the show. Also, a good number of people were talking about them as a 1 seed still, because frankly, there's a big drop-off among 2 seeds. I guess you're looking at the wrong sites.

[HenryMuto]

What a bracket. Pointless, but would be absolutely perfect.

Well we learned a couple things. That number of road wins matter, that number of quad 1/2 wins matter regardless of the actual team you beat (Cincy #2 seed and MSU down at #3 seed).

I have always been under the belief the actual team you beat is more important then the number or RPI top 50/100 wins (quad 1/2 wins) which clearly they didn't care as much about considering Cincy #2 seed. They have 0 wins vs sure fire at large teams.

[sirthought]

I'm thinking Creighton fans in Omaha may not be pulling for us so much if we end up there.

My hope is they cheer for the Big East.

[HenryMuto]

A lot of the brackets were updated after Saturday games in anticipation of the show. Also, a good number of people were talking about them as a 1 seed still, because frankly, there's a big drop-off among 2 seeds. I guess you're looking at the wrong sites.

That surprises me because they just lost 2 in a row I thought people would drop them for that to a 2.

Well at least I didn't look at the matrix I came to that conclusion on my own.

Did well for the dry run (I got 15/16 last year as well) Just can't get all 16 again...but last year I did get all 68 right so there is that (not to mention outscoring everyone on bracket matrix for the 2nd time in 3 years 2015 and 2017).

No credit for me though I don't belong on the matrix that is fine though.

[usfldan]

The rest of the Midwest:

1-Xavier
16-Florida Gulf Coast

8-Alabama
9-Florida State

5-Rhode Island
12-Loyola (IL)

4-Oklahoma
13-Louisiana-Lafayette

6-Wichita St
11-Middle Tennessee

3-Clemson
14-Rider

7-Seton Hall
10-TCU

2-Auburn
15-Bucknell

[HenryMuto]

Actually I was right the bracket matrix last update was on 2/10 at 9:30 AM so all those #1 Purdue's you seen were because it was before MSU loss.

If they had updated before the show I bet most of them would been off Purdue

http://bracketmatrix.com/

Matrix last updated:

2/10/18 9:30 AM

[HenryMuto]

The rest of the Midwest:

1-Xavier
16-Florida Gulf Coast

8-Alabama
9-Florida State

5-Rhode Island
12-Loyola (IL)

4-Oklahoma
13-Louisiana-Lafayette

6-Wichita St
11-Middle Tennessee

3-Clemson
14-Rider

7-Seton Hall
10-TCU

2-Auburn
15-Bucknell

This is if Jerry Palm was filling out rest of bracket and well he kinda sucks at this. Consider in the last 11 years I have scored higher then Palm 9 of the 11 years and we tied once........not saying I am great as much I am saying he sucks. (though I did finish 1st in 2015 and 2017 beating all teams in the matrix in pts)

[Lloyd Braun]

Well at least I didn't look at the matrix I came to that conclusion on my own.

Did well for the dry run (I got 15/16 last year as well) Just can't get all 16 again...but last year I did get all 68 right so there is that (not to mention outscoring everyone on bracket matrix for the 2nd time in 3 years 2015 and 2017).

No credit for me though I don't belong on the matrix that is fine though.




This is if Jerry Palm was filling out rest of bracket and well he kinda sucks at this. Consider in the last 11 years I have scored higher then Palm 9 of the 11 years and we tied once........not saying I am great as much I am saying he sucks. (though I did finish 1st in 2015 and 2017 beating all teams in the matrix in pts)

Ok Mr Horn Tooter....

I wouldn’t object if you posted more on the boards of your more favorite teams (UK and tOSU). Just sayin’

[XUFan09]

Actually I was right the bracket matrix last update was on 2/10 at 9:30 AM so all those #1 Purdue's you seen were because it was before MSU loss.

If they had updated before the show I bet most of them would been off Purdue

http://bracketmatrix.com/

Matrix last updated:

2/10/18 9:30 AM

Oh, good catch. Still don't think it's that great of a call, and I'm saying that when I had them as a 1 seed too. People talk about how it's a down year for basketball in terms of elite teams, but really, the top 4 teams are a pretty standard selection of 1 seeds (a couple of elite teams and a couple strong teams after them). It's after that point that I can see an argument for a down year in basketball. Frankly, the 2 through 4 seeds just aren't as good as normal 2 through 4 seeds, in part because the three most talented teams in basketball aren't playing well. It makes the top line easy for now.

[usfldan]

https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2018-02-11/division-i-mens-basketball-committee-unveils-top-16-teams



“When the committee started our meeting on Tuesday, I think there was a general agreement on who the top three teams were, but by late Saturday night that group had grown to four,” said Rasmussen. “We initially felt Villanova was the overall top seed, but we flipped that Thursday morning after the Wildcats lost to St. John’s at home and Virginia won at Florida State. Despite UVA’s loss Saturday, we felt that based on their 13 wins in the first two quadrants, they deserved to remain on top. Villanova bounced back with a good win Saturday, so we kept them second. Purdue had two tough losses to quality teams, while Xavier picked up two good road wins to solidify the fourth No. 1 seed and ultimately leap Purdue on the seed list.”

[XUMIOH12]

Ok Mr Horn Tooter....

I wouldn’t object if you posted more on the boards of your more favorite teams (UK and tOSU). Just sayin’

he posts pretty much this same thing every year lol

[XUMIOH12]

If this was the final bracket I would be very excited. I feel like as it is now, Xavier is in the weakest region of the 4.

[novachap]

Congrats! Saturday is going to be fun... hope paschal is back, but either way should be a battle.

[sirthought]

I'm surprised you see that region as weak. I see the second game as being pretty challenging no matter which team X would face.



Also...did anyone see a Horizon team in the field? I was curious if NKU would make it in this grouping. They've been running through their conference pretty strong.

[Lloyd Braun]

Ok Mr Horn Tooter....

I wouldn’t object if you posted more on the boards of your more favorite teams (UK and tOSU). Just sayin’

Actually... I stand corrected. You do post (https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/threads/selection-feb-11th-show.257536/) in their forums just as much

[Snipe]

Any chance we get some first place votes tomorrow?

Michigan State didn't get much respect from the committee for a team that is poised to be the new #1 in the nation. Will that make voters reconsider MSU?

What is going to happen tomorrow?

I love seeing Xavier as a 1 seed, even if it isn't real.

We really need to bring it strong and beat a very good Seton Hall team on Wednesday.

[HenryMuto]

I was 19 off in total number (Lunardi was 35 off ouch)

I got 8 teams exactly right (Lunardi got 2 exactly right)

[X-band '01]

Michigan State as a team can have an argument for #1. Their paper resume doesn't have nearly as many wins (especially Quadrant 1) as other teams in the Top 16 right now.

[X-band '01]

We're also missing one other thing in the bracket reveal.

If Virginia and Cincinnati met in the South Regional Final, would anyone reach 40 points in regulation?

[HenryMuto]

Actually... I stand corrected. You do post (https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/threads/selection-feb-11th-show.257536/) in their forums just as much

I am a true fan of all 3 teams through and through. I live and die with the results of every game regular season or post season. My being a fan of all 3 doesn't take away from how much I care about each team. In college ball all 3 teams are different leagues and hardly ever play each other so I see no reason I can't root for all 3 equally as much). When they play against each other then it gets pretty rough but that hardly ever happens.

To be fair I post there a lot more then here.

Kentucky site I have over 5,000 posts
Ohio State site I have over 1,500 posts (lots of that is football as well there)
Here I have 437 posts

[bobbiemcgee]

OMAHA! OMAHA! I would love this. Honestly think it would be the next best thing to a home game for X. Maybe they could have a $1 beer night for us!

[XU 87]

If X gets a number 1 seed, I plan to go the cemetery and dig up my dad (XU 50) and let him know. I think that's legal in such circumstances, isn't it?

[GIMMFD]

OMAHA! OMAHA! I would love this. Honestly think it would be the next best thing to a home game for X. Maybe they could have a $1 beer night for us!

Honestly if we had that entire draw of a bracket I wouldn't be upset, I could see us beating Auburn and Clemson, Oklahoma is only the Trae Young show... I wouldn't be upset at all.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Ha ha yes it’s legal to dig up your dad for special occasions. As long as you re-bury him within 24 hours.

[paulxu]

Henry, did you actually attend and/or graduate from any one of those 4 schools? Just curious.

[XUFan09]

Actually... I stand corrected. You do post (https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/threads/selection-feb-11th-show.257536/) in their forums just as muchWow. Guess it's easy to do so when you copy and paste. To be fair, there may be a couple of XavierHoops/MusketeerReport crossover posters who do the same.

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[JTG]

Live in Northeast Ohio. My mother was born in Kentucky. I do have a #1, #2 and #3 but I don't think your going to like it.

I live and die with all 4 of my teams (except Cleveland State is no longer ever any good so not so much with them currently).

Losing each game hurts pretty bad especially when the 3 are really good teams.

I really hate when any of the teams play each other especially in the NCAA tournament.

That 2007 game was really amazing game and if the teams play each other in the tournament I will root for one of them if they are clearly a better etam because I want the team with the best chance to win the Championship to go on. If the teams are close on skill I just watch it play out. In 2012 I nearly got my dream game when Kentucky and Ohio State both made the Final Four if both had made the Championship game then that been the greatest game ever for me I would have just watched and whoever won wins the championship and I am happy either way.

So ya in 2007 I rooted for Ohio State over Xavier because I felt Ohio State had the much better shot to win the championship (they made it to the finals before losing to Florida that year). I also knew X would be bringing back a ton of talent in 2008 and Ohio State would lose all the one and doners.

Every year when the brackets come out my first thing to look for is I pray that each of the 3 teams are in different regions.

That 2011 Kentucky vs Ohio State game was the most brutal game I ever had I really didn't root that game I just let it play out and rooted for the winner.

Kentucky not so good this year. Would be rooting for X this year if any of the 3 met because X clearly has the best of the 3 teams. That said I pray it don't happen. Ohio State fans are pretty bitter at me for rooting for Kentucky and X. There are some there that won't accept me as a fan for it. Such is life.

I'm sorry but this just screams "participation trophy millenial". Either X is #1 on your list or forget it. No real fan has 4 favorite teams, plus all the mid majors. What's next 68 National Championship trophys? Sorry pal, take your Big Blue, Buckeye, and Shocker banners and troll somewhere else. We have plenty of 100%, bleed Xavier blue, screw everyone else fans.

[XUFan09]

I'm sorry but this just screams "participation trophy millenial". Either X is #1 on your list or forget it. No real fan has 4 favorite teams, plus all the mid majors. What's next 68 National Championship trophys? Sorry pal, take your Big Blue, Buckeye, and Shocker banners and troll somewhere else. We have plenty of 100%, bleed Xavier blue, screw everyone else fans.Lol a bit excessive.

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[JTG]

Lol a bit excessive.

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I matriculated during the Krajack/Campbell era, I've suffered enough. Live and die with X, period.

[sirthought]

I matriculated during the Krajack/Campbell era, I've suffered enough. Live and die with X, period.

Dude, variety is the spice of life. Just enjoy it for yourself and don't worry about what others enjoy.

[usfldan]

I'm surprised you see that region as weak. I see the second game as being pretty challenging no matter which team X would face.



Also...did anyone see a Horizon team in the field? I was curious if NKU would make it in this grouping. They've been running through their conference pretty strong.

They had NKU in against UC in a loser leaves Bank of Kentucky Arena match. (One part of that may be made up).

https://twitter.com/Elise_JesseWLWT/status/962746631970893824

[sirthought]

They had NKU in against UC in a loser leaves Bank of Kentucky Arena match. (One part of that may be made up).

https://twitter.com/Elise_JesseWLWT/status/962746631970893824

Wow, I did not catch that. Thanks (and LOL)

[xukeith]

Bracket Matrix average seed for Purdue was 1.28, right behind Xavier (1.19). The next highest was Kansas at 1.74. So, A LOT of people had Purdue as a 1 seed.

That does not include games after 10am yesterday. I imagine a huge shake up tomorrow in all the projected brackets.

[xu82]

Does anyone know where the teams from Nashville would be the next weekend? How does this work? I’m praying for X in Nashville then heading to Atlanta. Is that even possible? I’m hoping to get at least ONE weekend with them, but being the greedy bastard that I am, I’m hoping for both!

Anyone know?

[GoMuskies]

Does anyone know where the teams from Nashville would be the next weekend?

They could be at any of the four sites the following weekend. The first and second round sites don't feed into specific regions anymore. So the two pods in Nashville could send one team to Atlanta and one team to Omaha. Or two to Omaha. Or one East and one West.

[94GRAD]

Does anyone know where the teams from Nashville would be the next weekend? How does this work? I’m praying for X in Nashville then heading to Atlanta. Is that even possible? I’m hoping to get at least ONE weekend with them, but being the greedy bastard that I am, I’m hoping for both!

Anyone know?

For them to end up in Atlanta, They have to be a higher #1 seed than Virginia or lose a couple games and be the 2/3 seed in that region.

[Three Point Pete]

I matriculated during the Krajack/Campbell era, I've suffered enough. Live and die with X, period.

Schmidt was unbelievable. And "extreme" was not only normal, but taken for granted. I was there when we won or lost. We never missed a game.

[bobbiemcgee]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/xaviers-a-no-1-seed-because-it-might-be-the-nations-luckiest-and-most-clutch-team/

[GIMMFD]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/xaviers-a-no-1-seed-because-it-might-be-the-nations-luckiest-and-most-clutch-team/

*Cues scene to Slumdog Millionaire opening credits... D. It was written...*

[xdude]

Any chance we get some first place votes tomorrow?

Michigan State didn't get much respect from the committee for a team that is poised to be the new #1 in the nation. Will that make voters reconsider MSU?

What is going to happen tomorrow?

I love seeing Xavier as a 1 seed, even if it isn't real.

We really need to bring it strong and beat a very good Seton Hall team on Wednesday.

Our rpi is #2, Michigan State is #14. I would think that gives us a shot at the coveted #1 team in the country.

[D-West & PO-Z]

They could be at any of the four sites the following weekend. The first and second round sites don't feed into specific regions anymore. So the two pods in Nashville could send one team to Atlanta and one team to Omaha. Or two to Omaha. Or one East and one West.

Do we know which 1st/2nd round site X is likely to get? I know as a protected seed we'd get to play closest to home but it seems this year there are 3 sites all pretty equal in distance. Detroit is about 258 miles, Nashville 277 miles, and Pittsburgh 285 miles. Anyone have any idea which of those three would be most likely??

[Snipe]

Omaha is 10.5 hours by car. I want to be a 1 seed, but I wouldn't be able to make it to the game. Plus Omaha is a Sunday game, where the Atlanta regional is on Saturday and 4 hours closer.

Atlanta would be easy to win Thursday night, drive down Friday Night, game on Saturday, drive home Sunday. Omaha is impossible for that.

I want to find a way to be in the South, but I want a #1 seed for the first time too. I doubt both of those can be accommodated.

[xu82]

Number 1 seed, play in Nashville, advance to Atlanta, then win out. There! It’s decided!!!

Was that so hard?

[GoMuskies]

Do we know which 1st/2nd round site X is likely to get? I know as a protected seed we'd get to play closest to home but it seems this year there are 3 sites all pretty equal in distance. Detroit is about 258 miles, Nashville 277 miles, and Pittsburgh 285 miles. Anyone have any idea which of those three would be most likely??

I assume if Xavier is a #1 seed, the Committee would simply ask Xavier where they prefer to be. And I assume the answer would be Nashville.

Just as long as they didn't decide to make UK the 8 or 9 seed there. That would really suck (mostly for those of you who would have to endure their hordes of fans).

[xu82]

I assume if Xavier is a #1 seed, the Committee would simply ask Xavier where they prefer to be. And I assume the answer would be Nashville.

Just as long as they didn't decide to make UK the 8 or 9 seed there. That would really suck (mostly for those of you who would have to endure their hordes of fans).

I’ve been to all three cities (though it’s been a long time since Detroit, but it’s Detroit!), and as far as fan experience I’d say that’s a no-brainier. Yes, I’m biased, but Nashville has an awesome experience to offer. The others don’t attract a lot of tourists. A lot more than just the honky tonks downtown. The Gulch is walking distance from the arena if you want a cool place to escape all that. Plus it’s a college town with a ton of great areas. That offsets an extra 15 minutes in a car.

[JTG]

The bad news is the average hotel price in Nashville is over $300 a night, unless you stay way out of town.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I assume if Xavier is a #1 seed, the Committee would simply ask Xavier where they prefer to be. And I assume the answer would be Nashville.

Just as long as they didn't decide to make UK the 8 or 9 seed there. That would really suck (mostly for those of you who would have to endure their hordes of fans).

Not disagreeing but why do you think they would pick Nashville? Do you think they would think more fans would travel to games there? Or something to do with which days games would be played?

Also did someone say each sites day games are played is already decided? That would really help me decide which day to ask off work as I dont think I can swing both this year due to other days off.

[xu82]

The bad news is the average hotel price in Nashville is over $300 a night, unless you stay way out of town.

The good news is we have a 3 bedroom condo an $8 Uber ride from the arena. I did mention I have a bias!

It’s true, in town hotels are quite expensive, but going to Brentwood or other areas offers much cheaper options. It’s not THAT far. Better yet, there’’s a Hampton Inn and a few others near Vanderbilt that are reasonable and in great walkable locations to cool stuff. Again, a $5-10 Uber ride downtown. If you have an open budget, the Hermitage downtown is awesome! That’s where the wife’s bank people stay when in town. Then get a nice corporate break. All in all, still a great destination!

[xu82]

Not disagreeing but why do you think they would pick Nashville? Do you think they would think more fans would travel to games there? Or something to do with which days games would be played?

Also did someone say each sites day games are played is already decided? That would really help me decide which day to ask off work as I dont think I can swing both this year due to other days off.

I know Nashville is Friday/Sunday, 3/16 and 3/18. That makes it easier to get off than a Thursday/Saturday matchup.

[bjf123]

I’ll bet those $5 - $10 Uber rides are a lot more for the tournament.


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[xu82]

I’ll bet those $5 - $10 Uber rides are a lot more for the tournament.


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Probably, but not too bad still. There’s enough going on there that the NCAA alone won’t overwhelm them. It’s almost small potatoes for Nashville. My first trip there they had 80,000 people in town for an NRA convention. So if it’s $15, it’s still less than parking, and allows for a few beverages. The Uber coverage is better than most cities.

[paulxu]

I've got no dog except I hope they somehow pass through Atlanta.

In the old days (and I think even today) the majority of out of town X students came from Chicago, Indy, Cleveland, etc.
For that group, it would seem like Detroit would be easier, and about equidistant for Cincy folks.

[xu82]

I've got no dog except I hope they somehow pass through Atlanta.

In the old days (and I think even today) the majority of out of town X students came from Chicago, Indy, Cleveland, etc.
For that group, it would seem like Detroit would be easier, and about equidistant for Cincy folks.

That makes sense.

Atlanta is my first choice, since it means we are two wins in already. It’s a home game for me, too. But I prefer Nashville as a city and event venue. I don’t care how or where we advance as much as I just want to advance! But if it were to go through Nashville, that would be special....

[GenerationX]

The bad news is the average hotel price in Nashville is over $300 a night, unless you stay way out of town.

Try Airbnb. Normally there are less expensive options. Just make sure you choose a place with plenty of good reviews or with a superhost.

[xu82]

The bad news is the average hotel price in Nashville is over $300 a night, unless you stay way out of town.

I just looked at the Hampton Inn across from Vanderbilt. They have rooms for $269 before any points, AARP or AAA discounts or whatever you have. True, probably will bounce up when teams are announced, but it’s really a prime location. There are several others very close by which may be cheaper, but still nice. It’s WAY too far away to worry about this, but I’m praying for Nashville on several levels.

REGARDLESS, lesson learned the hard way last March.....make TWO reservations if you plan to leave if your team loses. The night before and game night. If you win you keep the next reservation. Don’t get stuck if your team losses.

[XUMIOH12]

Pittsburgh is Thursday/Saturday; Detroit and Nashville are Friday/Sunday.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I wonder if X really does get to pick given 3 sites so close? I would think Friday/Sunday would be preferred so more time for prepping for opponent. Not just the 16/15 seed we would face but also the assistants scouting the 8/9 or 7/10 seeds for the following game as well.

[GoMuskies]

Part of it is probably the puzzle of where to fit in all 16 protected seeds, too. If Xavier has three possible destinations, they may just put us in whichever one allows them to best fit all the protected seeds in preferred locations.

[waggy]

Committee chair with Andy Katz: https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2018-02-11/college-basketball-top-16-reveal-what-sundays-rankings-mean

[American X]

I'm sorry but this just screams "participation trophy millenial". Either X is #1 on your list or forget it. No real fan has 4 favorite teams, plus all the mid majors. What's next 68 National Championship trophys? Sorry pal, take your Big Blue, Buckeye, and Shocker banners and troll somewhere else. We have plenty of 100%, bleed Xavier blue, screw everyone else fans.

Pump the brakes. Everyone is welcome here, except Mick Cronin.