Xavier v. Marquette Game Thread (January 24, 2018)

[paulxu]

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Marquette Golden Eagles (13-4, 4-3 BE) v #8/8 Xavier University Musketeers (18-3, 6-2 BE)
Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 6:30 pm ET
Cintas Center (10,224), Cincinnati, Ohio

Notes (http://goxavier.com/documents/2018/1/22/2017_18_Xavier_Game_Notes_game_22_MARQUETTE.pdf)

Live Chat (http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=XavierHoops)


Television: FS1 with Vince Welch (play-by-play), Nick Bahe (analyst).

Radio: 55KRC-AM (and iHeartRadio), play-by-play from Joe Sunderman (`79). Analysis by Byron Larkin (`88).

[X Factor]

X -6.5. Seems low. Think Kanter could have a big game.

[X-band '01]

Sounds about right to me - Marquette is far from a gimme.

They also played Villanova tough in Philly, so they're certainly not going to come in to Cintas intimidated.

[Masterofreality]

Rowsey sucks!

[GetUp5]

We owe them a little revenge for the azz kicking they gave us at Cintas last year. That game was UGLY. We gave up 1.34 PPP.

[nuts4xu]

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[bjf123]

Rowsey sucks!

He’s their JP. You hate him when he’s on the other team, but love him when he’s on yours.


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[X-band '01]

He’s their JP. You hate him when he’s on the other team, but love him when he’s on yours.


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Bingo. I call on the Cintas Circus to not make the same mistakes that the Seton Hall students did last weekend.

[Masterofreality]

He’s their JP. You hate him when he’s on the other team, but love him when he’s on yours.


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I know. :lol:

[xumuskies08]

You could say this for every game in Cintas Center the rest of the way, but this is a must win if X is gonna have a shot at the Big East Championship.


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[Xuperman]

You could say this for every game in Cintas Center the rest of the way, but this is a must win if X is gonna have a shot at the Big East Championship

I am thinking more short term. This is the "soft portion" of our BE schedule and X must capitalize tonight and make a big move in the polls come Monday....THEN next week beat 2 bottom feeders and go where NO XAVIER team has gone before.....freakin' #1 on 2/5!!! It's time to start making history....GO X!!

[GenerationX]

I am thinking more short term. This is the "soft portion" of our BE schedule and X must capitalize tonight and make a big move in the polls come Monday....THEN next week beat 2 bottom feeders and go where NO XAVIER team has gone before.....freakin' #1 on 2/5!!! It's time to start making history....GO X!!

I love your enthusiasm, Xuperman

[Caf]

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Why is our RPI Ranking under 'Rankings' different from what it is under 'RPI Rankings Through 1/23'?

[GetUp5]

I'd quote your post but then that monster picture would post again...

I imagine the difference is that the RPI Ranking under "rankings" is a ranking from the beginning of the week. Through 1/23 is a "live" ranking.

[GIMMFD]

Let's just hope Howard doesn't shoot something ridiculous, and we come out on top. I can't watch because exam week, but I'll be frantically checking the score every 30 minutes. Pour one out in Live Chat for me <3

[letskeepitreal]

Who is going to step up the D on Rowsey and Howard? This will be a game.

[HenryMuto]

Sweep!!!!!!!!!

[smileyy]

Quentin Goodin lolwut?

[RoseyMuskie]

Goodin shot both in good rhythm.

Nice war win to start.

[xu82]

Quentin Goodin lolwut?

Go figure! If he can shoot we are REALLY dangerous!

[GreatWhiteNorth]

Q kept shooting 3 ptr to shut up some critics.

[paulxu]

They should make those little guys eat the ball if they come in the paint.

[paulxu]

...or, just let them cut through the lane unattended for layups. Whatever.

(Offense looks good though)

[UCGRAD4X]

Working tonight. Wondering who started.

[smileyy]

Working tonight. Wondering who started.

Q
JP
Tre
Naji
Kanter

[UCGRAD4X]

Q
JP
Tre
Naji
Kanter

Thanks. So is Jones still not 100%

[paulxu]

Come on JP. Pass that one to Kaiser

[whopper]

agreed, we have a big head after seton hall..this lead could be 20 but we are contesting without fouling which is good. Scruggs is a revelation. Just play solid, watch Utah Jazz films from 98 and do nothing flashy that is not needed.
By the way Howard is incredible..he can get to paint at will against good defense and his touch is ridiculous. If it is on the rim it is in.

[RoseyMuskie]

Howard missing FT, Goodin making three. Stats!

[XUFan09]

Goodin has been doing a good job most of the time versus Howard, but man, Howard is hitting some tough shots. And they keep going to him, because no one else can do anything.

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[RoseyMuskie]

War Breakout
- [ ] 11-5
- [ ] 12-10 (23-15)
- [ ] 4-2 (27-17)
- [ ] 22-14 (49-31)
- [ ] 2-2 (51-33)

[stammina0721]

So I got a really dumb question. To last second heaves before halftime always count as shots? Just curious if they always do if the result matters. Like if it is a horrible hairball do they not count a shot or does it only count if it hits the rim? Just something ive always wondered if scorers manipulate to not hurt stats

[XUFan09]

So I got a really dumb question. To last second heaves before halftime always count as shots? Just curious if they always do if the result matters. Like if it is a horrible hairball do they not count a shot or does it only count if it hits the rim? Just something ive always wondered if scorers manipulate to not hurt statsI believe they count for the college game but not the NBA.

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[Lloyd Braun]

So I got a really dumb question. To last second heaves before halftime always count as shots? Just curious if they always do if the result matters. Like if it is a horrible hairball do they not count a shot or does it only count if it hits the rim? Just something ive always wondered if scorers manipulate to not hurt stats

So they count but only if it goes in....

[AviatorX]

I believe they count for the college game but not the NBA.

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There's a pretty funny segment of NBA twitter that posts clips of guys practicing the art of holding the ball an extra tenth of a second so they don't hurt their FG percentage.

[stammina0721]

So they all count?

[XUFan09]

So they all count?90% sure. I seem to recall some people on Twitter talking about how the desperate heave not counting was something the NBA got right that the NCAA should adopt.

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[paulxu]

I guess the nets aren't load tested for 244 lbs.

[Emp]

So I got a really dumb question. To last second heaves before halftime always count as shots? Just curious if they always do if the result matters. Like if it is a horrible hairball do they not count a shot or does it only count if it hits the rim? Just something ive always wondered if scorers manipulate to not hurt stats

Back in the day of paper and pencil, we did not charge a heave as a shot.....unless....

[kellernr]

I guess the nets aren't load tested for 244 lbs.What happened? I was outside and came in and they were replacing the net

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[paulxu]

O'Mara pulled it out of the ring trying for rebound.

[Emp]

Was the delay because they didn't measles twice and cut once....the first time?

[HenryMuto]

Show no mercy leave no doubt!

[Grizzx12]

"That's what ya gotta do, at some point just hammer a guy to prove a point" is what I heard? Seriously?

[Grizzx12]

Congrats to Tre!!!!

[RoseyMuskie]

Second half wars.
* 8-8 (59-41)
* 10-6 (69-47)
* 10-9 MU (78-57)
* 7-2 MU (80-64)
* 9-6 (89-70)

[XUGRAD80]

Anytime X lays a whoopin on Marquette is special. Having Tre reach a milestone only reached 4 times before during that whoopin makes it even more special.

[GoMuskies]

Nice stress free win. Can you imagine how livid we'd be with this performance if we were Marquette fans? Brutal.

[Caveat]

Goodin being even an occasional threat from 3 would completely change the dynamic of this team.

[skyking]

If Goodin starts hitting threes on a regular basis, we can beat anyone.

[JEHARDI]

Nice stress free win. Can you imagine how livid we'd be with this performance if we were Marquette fans? Brutal.

Was thinking the same thing. We have been incredibly lucky/fortunate as alumni and fans of a program that has not only continued to get better but also consistently achieved at a high level for more than 30 years now. Yet we still have fans with no trust and faith, who pounce on a player like Scruggs,unwilling to give the kid any time to develop. Must be great to be perfect!

[drudy23]

Marquette is not good at defense.

Markus Howard is good at offense.

Tre is an all-timer.

[UCGRAD4X]

Was thinking the same thing. We have been incredibly lucky/fortunate as alumni and fans of a program that has not only continued to get better but also consistently achieved at a high level for more than 30 years now. Yet we still have fans with no trust and faith, who pounce on a player like Scruggs,unwilling to give the kid any time to develop. Must be great to be perfect!

He's developing all the time. Just not as fast as many would like. He'll get there, and more.

[xu82]

Marquette is not good at defense.

Markus Howard is good at offense.

Tre is an all-timer.

True.

True.

And TRUE!!!

[GIMMFD]

So I didn't watch, but I'm looking at the box score, and I saw Howard had 33 and I was like "DEAR GOD HOW DID WE WIN" but then I saw he put up 27 shots, and went 3-10 from 3 point land, so it makes sense. Having them shoot 26% from deep for the game is a good recipe for success. But my favorite part of the box score was seeing Q have 15, and Scruggs getting 10, with as much shit as they get, I'm glad they had good games, and hopefully it's the start of that for the rest of the season (though I highly doubt Q will shoot 3-3 from 3 ever again)

[drudy23]

Howard did have 27 shots, but he was very efficient. He did whatever he wanted in the first half. He's every bit of the stud on offense as his stats indicate. In saying that, that's how bad they are on defense. Atrocious.

[letskeepitreal]

Had to watch on delay but wow, what a win. Bluiett and Macura only scoring 20 combined and we still win big? Congrats to Kerem, Naji, Golden and Scruggs. Great performance and confidence builder.

[chico]

5 players in double figures. This may have been the best all around game X has played this year, just a thorough beatdown. I know Marquette's defense is not their strong suit by any stretch, but the stat that is the most encouraging to me - other than Goodin going 3-3 from 3's - is ZERO turnovers for Paul Scruggs in 19 minutes of play. He's really looking more comfortable and confident.

[IM4X]

So I got a really dumb question. To last second heaves before halftime always count as shots? Just curious if they always do if the result matters. Like if it is a horrible hairball do they not count a shot or does it only count if it hits the rim? Just something ive always wondered if scorers manipulate to not hurt stats

No-no... it's not a dumb question to ask if "hairballs" are not counted as a shot. But I am pretty sure the answer is no.

[IM4X]

This is the best X has played as a team maybe all year.

They all moved well and hustled for loose balls, hustled to be in position to create disruption to Marquette's offense, hustled to pick players pockets, hustled to get separation and become open, hustled to crash the boards and get rebounds. There was great chemistry, some nice passes and our young guys were particularly good tonight. This is the type of X play that could take down Villanova, even if Booth didn't get injured.

Bravo to the players and to the coaches for their tremendous effort and result!

[bobbiemcgee]

and the ft defense was good as Howard missed his 1st FT since March 4, 2017.

[xu82]

and the ft defense was good as Howard missed his 1st FT since March 4, 2017.

And then another..... we are AWESOME!

[RoseyMuskie]

Nice to see the turnovers limited tonight.

Obviously, turnovers always cause heartburn. But I feel like this season a little more so than other years. Simply because the offense is so efficient, and to see the team stop themselves when their opponent often cannot is frustrating.

Good overall team win. Congrats Tre.

[GIMMFD]

This is the best X has played as a team maybe all year.

They all moved well and hustled for loose balls, hustled to be in position to create disruption to Marquette's offense, hustled to pick players pockets, hustled to get separation and become open, hustled to crash the boards and get rebounds. There was great chemistry, some nice passes and our young guys were particularly good tonight. This is the type of X play that could take down Villanova, even if Booth didn't get injured.

Bravo to the players and to the coaches for their tremendous effort and result!

I better get a damn Honor's on this exam to have missed this, that much better than the UC game even??

[Caf]

It's hard to credit defense for a win when you put up 89, but Naji Marshall deserves a shout out for shutting down Rowsey. And kudos to Mack for going with that matchup from the start. Naji's quickness and size on the perimeter is a special combination.

[GetUp5]

I better get a damn Honor's on this exam to have missed this, that much better than the UC game even??

There was definitely a little extra pep in their step last night. I was very impressed.

[Smails]

Whenever we went one on one...we scored. It looked to me like our guards and bigs could get the ball on the rim at will with very little resistance. As offensively dynamic as Rowsey and Howard are, their lack of size and strength killed them defensively. Watching Ivan Drago try to guard our bigs in the paint looked unfair at times.

If Q can string together a couple games making a 3, the middle will really open up b/c opposing PG's have to close out instead of sagging.