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GoMuskies
01-18-2018, 09:39 AM
Xavier is not winning a Big East championship this year. Villanova is just too damned good.

However, if we ARE going to win a Big East championiship this year, we MUST win at Seton Hall. MUST. Really, we just have to win up there in any event, because I'm sick of losing to them. They kind of own us in the league, and I don't like it. Kevin Willard can eat a bag of dicks.

bleedXblue
01-18-2018, 10:06 AM
Xavier is not winning a Big East championship this year. Villanova is just too damned good.

However, if we ARE going to win a Big East championiship this year, we MUST win at Seton Hall. MUST. Really, we just have to win up there in any event, because I'm sick of losing to them. They kind of own us in the league, and I don't like it. Kevin Willard can eat a bag of dicks.

I was thinking about this last night. If we are going to send any message whatsoever to Villanova, we MUST win on Saturday.

Emp
01-19-2018, 11:33 PM
Send a message to Nova? Just win the rematch.

This would be our best road win of the year and put us back in contention for a 2 seed.

bleedXblue
01-20-2018, 08:46 AM
Send a message to Nova? Just win the rematch.

This would be our best road win of the year and put us back in contention for a 2 seed.

Winning the rematch only against Nova and losing another 3,4, or 5 games does nothing for winning the BE........Nova is only going to lose 1 or 2 more games maybe 3 at most.......

The message sent in winning today would be............we aren't going away.

XUOHTX
01-20-2018, 09:42 AM
We're not ready to win this league. We're better than most teams but not by enough. Until we stop playing down to lesser teams, we're not ready. And I believe that's coaching.

Lloyd Braun
01-20-2018, 09:48 AM
We're not ready to win this league. We're better than most teams but not by enough. Until we stop playing down to lesser teams, we're not ready. And I believe that's coaching.

Fire Mack!

X-band '01
01-20-2018, 10:36 AM
We're not ready to win this league. We're better than most teams but not by enough. Until we stop playing down to lesser teams, we're not ready. And I believe that's coaching.

Seton Hall is certainly not a lesser team.

xdude
01-20-2018, 10:44 AM
Our RPI is #5. Seaton Hall is #13. Would be a great win, would not be a devastating loss.

bleedXblue
01-20-2018, 11:32 AM
We're not ready to win this league. We're better than most teams but not by enough. Until we stop playing down to lesser teams, we're not ready. And I believe that's coaching.

Yeah.......

Some people seem to completely ignore the fact that other teams have good players AND good coaches too.

This isnt the MCC or A-10 anymore.......

Geesh

XUOHTX
01-20-2018, 11:32 AM
Seton Hall is certainly not a lesser team.

I'm not talking about SH. I'm taking about the other teams that have given us trouble. When you are elite that doesn't happen as often. I think this has been a problem for years. I would love to see us get over that hump. Mack is great but this is the one issue is like to see him figure out.

XUOHTX
01-20-2018, 11:35 AM
Yeah.......

Some people seem to completely ignore the fact that other teams have good players AND good coaches too.

This isnt the MCC or A-10 anymore.......

Geesh

I know there will always be tight games and lesser teams can get hot. Look, it's a great time to be a Xavier fan when you can complain about how we win. I'm just waiting for that last step that we need to take to be consistent BE champions.

XUOHTX
01-20-2018, 11:36 AM
Fire Mack!

I love Mack.

XUFan09
01-20-2018, 11:46 AM
I'm not talking about SH. I'm taking about the other teams that have given us trouble. When you are elite that doesn't happen as often. I think this has been a problem for years. I would love to see us get over that hump. Mack is great but this is the one issue is like to see him figure out.It wouldn't surprise me if it changes when Trevon and J.P. graduate. They lead the team in a laidback, highly confident manner. Myles Davis and Edmond Sumner were also like that.
This attitude allows them to not panic so they can make comebacks. It allows them to rebound from losses as if nothing happened. But it also leads to them playing really loose versus inferior opponents and to them getting lackadaisical with leads.

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Snipe
01-20-2018, 11:50 AM
Xavier is not winning a Big East championship this year. Villanova is just too damned good.

However, if we ARE going to win a Big East championiship this year, we MUST win at Seton Hall. MUST. Really, we just have to win up there in any event, because I'm sick of losing to them. They kind of own us in the league, and I don't like it. Kevin Willard can eat a bag of dicks.

Conference Champions & League Record
2013-14 Nova 16-2
2014-15 Nova 16-2
2015-16 Nova 16-2
2016-17 Nova 15-3

I think we have a shot of winning the Big East if we win all of our games except maybe one more, but only if the one we lose is not losing to Nova.

Budgeting Losses

Another way to look at todays game against Seton Hall is that it can take away the sting of the Providence loss and make us whole.

Here is my reasoning:

I want to win the Big East Conference. To do that I think we need a minimum of 15 wins and a maximum of 3 losses. So that is my initial budget. Looking at our toughest 3 games in conference, I budgeted losses for @Nova, @Seton Hall, and @Creighton. (You can argue Nova at home is tougher that @Creighton, but you can't win the conference getting swept by Nova).

So with the Providence loss it took us over budget in a bad way, because that needed to be a win. But if you look at it that way, this game today @Seton Hall is a budgeted loss, and winning this one gets us back on budget and in contention for a Big East Title.

We can win this game. It would be a great win, the best of the season. It is going to right the ship and rocket us back into the top 10 and in contention for the Title.

TODAY WE RIDE!

American X
01-20-2018, 11:50 AM
But it also leads to them playing really loose versus inferior opponents and to them getting lackadaisical with leads.


And this is what has me holding my breath we are going to drop games we are not supposed to.

XUFan09
01-20-2018, 11:52 AM
And this is what has me holding my breath we are going to drop games we are not supposed to.Oh yeah, I get it. But you kind of take it with the positives.

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Snipe
01-20-2018, 11:54 AM
And I think it goes without saying, but to clarify I am on board with the assessment that Kevin Willard can eat a bag of dicks. While he is at it he can Smell The Glove.

Snipe
01-20-2018, 12:02 PM
Plus it is always nice to say that WE control our own destiny. A win today puts us one half game out of first with Nova playing us at home, and we control our own destiny. A loss today and we do not control our own destiny. And winning @Seton Hall will give us the confidence that we can win anywhere on the road in the Big East.

GIMMFD
01-20-2018, 01:42 PM
Plus it is always nice to say that WE control our own destiny. A win today puts us one half game out of first with Nova playing us at home, and we control our own destiny. A loss today and we do not control our own destiny. And winning @Seton Hall will give us the confidence that we can win anywhere on the road in the Big East.

I like the let's control our destiny part, it's a big match-up with conference implications, I hope the guys are ready to go, and play with the same intensity as we started out against UC, Baylor, and Colorado.

xukeith
01-20-2018, 02:14 PM
Villanova, XU, Seton Hall and Creighton are all undefeated at home this year.
Something has to crack.

GoMuskies
01-20-2018, 05:16 PM
We've got a fantastic opportunity to win the next three and get to 9-2. That would have us right in the hunt for a championship with 7 games to play...

paulxu
01-20-2018, 05:27 PM
Villanova, XU, Seton Hall and Creighton are all undefeated at home this year.
Something has to crack.

Something just did.


While he is at it he can Smell The Glove.

GIMMFD
01-20-2018, 05:34 PM
We've got a fantastic opportunity to win the next three and get to 9-2. That would have us right in the hunt for a championship with 7 games to play...

That would be my wet dream, if we somehow pull off wins @Butler and @Creighton as well, we have a really good shot at winning the Big East.

stammina0721
01-20-2018, 10:09 PM
We can't beat nova in this league. Even if we beat nova at our place there is no way we run the table the rest of the way. That is what it will take to win the conference and it's just not going to happen.

letskeepitreal
01-20-2018, 11:56 PM
Just got to play our game. I thought this would have been the hardest one of this, Butler or Creighton on the Road but we did this. I think we’ve got a good chance of going 13-5 or 14-4 in conference and I don’t think that’s going to do it but what really matters I think is the best seeding we can get in the tournament.

Snipe
01-21-2018, 12:02 AM
We can't beat nova in this league. Even if we beat nova at our place there is no way we run the table the rest of the way. That is what it will take to win the conference and it's just not going to happen.

We can beat Nova in this league.

Nova has played 4 away games in conference play.

DePaul - Win
Butler - Loss
Georgetown - Win
St. Johns - Win

So in summary, Nova has gotten wins at the 3 weakest teams in the conference on the road, and the only tourney contender that they have played on the road in Big East play is Butler. They lost to Butler.

The still have road games against:

1/28 Marquette
2/14 Providence
2/17 Xavier
2/24 Creighton
2/28 Seton Hall

We are 2-2 on the road.

Wins at Marquette and Seton Hall, two fine teams.

Losses at Providence and Villanova.

Unlike Nova, we still play the bottom three teams, SJU, Georgetown & DePaul on the road.

Our road schedule:

1/30 St Johns
2/6 Butler
2/10 Creighton
2/21 Georgetown
3/3 DePaul

We can win this league. We are having a fantastic year. Our RPI is 4 and our SOS is 5. We are 18-3 and 6-2 in conference play. I expected us to contend for the title, and at half a game out of first we are doing just that.

What's more is that we are back on budget. I expected us to be 6-2 right now even as I imagined we would contend for the title. If anything, we are in a bit better shape because I would have had Nova at 6-0 right now instead of 5-1. We have played two more league games than they have and have one more win. So in a sense we are ahead of schedule from my projections and right where we want to be.

This is a tough league, and even coming in second place is gonna be a battle. It will be a battle all the way down to seventh in my opinion. You look at Nova's road schedule left and they have to run the gauntlet.

Nova is still the favorite, and we still control our own destiny. We have a better road schedule.

We also have to beat Nova at home. No way around that if we want the title. 2/17 is gonna be a big one.

Snipe
01-21-2018, 12:07 AM
To put it another way, Nova still plays 5 tournament contenders on the road. We play just 2.

Nova has a fantastic team. It won't be easy. I don't want it to be easy. We can do this.

We win the Big East and we will be in contention for a #1 seed.

That said, we have our hands full with Marquette coming up on Wednesday. I really like that Marquette team and I was damn glad to get out of Milwaukee with a W. They are dangerous.

letskeepitreal
01-21-2018, 12:08 AM
Yup, we need to protect our turf vs Nova to even be in the conversation of a league title.

LA Muskie
01-21-2018, 02:42 AM
We're not ready to win this league. We're better than most teams but not by enough. Until we stop playing down to lesser teams, we're not ready. And I believe that's coaching.

You need help. Or sarcasm font. (And I sincerely hope it’s the latter.)


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LA Muskie
01-21-2018, 02:45 AM
I'm not talking about SH. I'm taking about the other teams that have given us trouble. When you are elite that doesn't happen as often. I think this has been a problem for years. I would love to see us get over that hump. Mack is great but this is the one issue is like to see him figure out.

Kentucky lost — at home — to unranked Florida today. FIRE CALIPARI!!!

Villanova got boat-raced at Butler. FIRE JAY WRIGHT!!!

stammina0721
01-21-2018, 04:06 AM
We can beat Nova in this league.

Nova has played 4 away games in conference play.

DePaul - Win
Butler - Loss
Georgetown - Win
St. Johns - Win

So in summary, Nova has gotten wins at the 3 weakest teams in the conference on the road, and the only tourney contender that they have played on the road in Big East play is Butler. They lost to Butler.

The still have road games against:

1/28 Marquette
2/14 Providence
2/17 Xavier
2/24 Creighton
2/28 Seton Hall

We are 2-2 on the road.

Wins at Marquette and Seton Hall, two fine teams.

Losses at Providence and Villanova.

Unlike Nova, we still play the bottom three teams, SJU, Georgetown & DePaul on the road.

Our road schedule:

1/30 St Johns
2/6 Butler
2/10 Creighton
2/21 Georgetown
3/3 DePaul

We can win this league. We are having a fantastic year. Our RPI is 4 and our SOS is 5. We are 18-3 and 6-2 in conference play. I expected us to contend for the title, and at half a game out of first we are doing just that.

What's more is that we are back on budget. I expected us to be 6-2 right now even as I imagined we would contend for the title. If anything, we are in a bit better shape because I would have had Nova at 6-0 right now instead of 5-1. We have played two more league games than they have and have one more win. So in a sense we are ahead of schedule from my projections and right where we want to be.

This is a tough league, and even coming in second place is gonna be a battle. It will be a battle all the way down to seventh in my opinion. You look at Nova's road schedule left and they have to run the gauntlet.

Nova is still the favorite, and we still control our own destiny. We have a better road schedule.

We also have to beat Nova at home. No way around that if we want the title. 2/17 is gonna be a big one.

Providence is the difference. I am assuming a loss at Butler. Given that we are one full game behind cause they won't lay an egg at providence like we did. We beat providence 9 out of 10 games there. This team is outright better than them. That loss wrapped up the conference title for Nova. I would never say that in other seasons so early but Nova is just that good. Can't slip up like that and think your gonna overtake a team as good as Nova. Just gonna be happy with 2nd place which may even be good enough for a one seed depending on how things play out

Masterofreality
01-21-2018, 07:37 AM
We're not ready to win this league. We're better than most teams but not by enough. Until we stop playing down to lesser teams, we're not ready. And I believe that's coaching.

This is the worst post EVER on this or any previous board.

Coaching.....coaching....coaching. Don't you ever get tired of being a nattering nabobs of negativism? Must be exhausting, right?

(Note: This badly coached team is now 18-3)

Masterofreality
01-21-2018, 07:41 AM
I'm not talking about SH. I'm taking about the other teams that have given us trouble. When you are elite that doesn't happen as often. I think this has been a problem for years. I would love to see us get over that hump. Mack is great but this is the one issue is like to see him figure out.

*Checks Top 25 Basketball records*
*Sees NO undefeated teams*
*Rechecks records*
*Sees no teams that have NOT lost to an unranked team*

*Concludes that you are a cretin.*

X-band '01
01-21-2018, 07:48 AM
Providence is the difference. I am assuming a loss at Butler. Given that we are one full game behind cause they won't lay an egg at providence like we did. We beat providence 9 out of 10 games there. This team is outright better than them. That loss wrapped up the conference title for Nova. I would never say that in other seasons so early but Nova is just that good. Can't slip up like that and think your gonna overtake a team as good as Nova. Just gonna be happy with 2nd place which may even be good enough for a one seed depending on how things play out

Could not disagree more. #1, Xavier has only won once in 5 tries up in Providence. That has always been a tough place to play, and if they can just get 1 or 2 road wins of note in the league, they'll be dancing as well.

#2 - Matchups seem to dictate a lot how Butler plays, home or away. They've beaten Nova 3 straight times, yet struggle like hell to beat teams like Xavier and Seton Hall. All 3 games against Butler were 50/50 games last season. Creighton is the tougher road game remaining for this team.

#3 - Defend home court and this team has a real shot at a share of the Big East title at a minimum. Will be curious to see how much energy gets expended in that game given that there will be a weekend bye after the game. Marquette is coming off of a bye themselves, but that's just luck of the draw when it comes to scheduling.

Masterofreality
01-21-2018, 08:16 AM
To put it another way, Nova still plays 5 tournament contenders on the road. We play just 2.

Nova has a fantastic team. It won't be easy. I don't want it to be easy. We can do this.

We win the Big East and we will be in contention for a #1 seed.

That said, we have our hands full with Marquette coming up on Wednesday. I really like that Marquette team and I was damn glad to get out of Milwaukee with a W. They are dangerous.

All I know is this.

Guys like Snipe, American X, Go Muskies, XBand, Nuts, the Coz (Fred Garvin, whatever), Muskie, XU87, Xeus, XU82, LA Muskie, PMThor, I and many others have been pushing our fingers on keyboards on Xavier message boards for over 20 years. We have been Die Hard Musketeer fans through thick and thin through (some) the MCC, the A10 and now this incredible league that we dreamed about forming back as far as the last century. Now we are here, have a legitimate shot at winning a regular season Championship in one of the Top 3 leagues in the Country, have a shot at winning a Tournament championship in the same league and have a Legitimate shot at, not just getting to a Final 4, but winning the whole Damn thing.

The Dream is REAL. We have the most tough minded, talented and deep team we have ever had at Xavier. We have a home grown coach who has been through all the wars and developed into an elite leader and we have an assistant staff that is way above competent.

Other than two years ago, we've never been near here before. But, now THIS YEAR, we're just where we dreamed to be when Dr. Bill Dailey saved the athletic program from Mulligans' Murder attempt in 1979. It's now been a Forty year climb to here, and like Father Hoff displayed with his glider shaped hand, the trajectory is still up.

Enjoy the ride, this team and our earned enhanced position in the CBB world. Let's get it!!

paulxu
01-21-2018, 08:52 AM
These things....are exactly like the others:

https://twt-thumbs.washtimes.com/media/image/2017/10/31/xavier_basketball_preview_81988_c0-170-4079-2548_s885x516.jpg?24559ccb8d9060880ff9f7cdc38c3ca1 08c4af0b

https://i1.wp.com/www.cincinnativseveryone.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Screen-Shot-2018-01-07-at-10.29.15-AM.png

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Georgetown+v+Xavier+YV4Y59ZFgmvx.jpg

XUOHTX
01-21-2018, 09:49 AM
You need help. Or sarcasm font. (And I sincerely hope it’s the latter.)


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You're saying this doesn't happen? Mack literally said we had an intensity problem after our back to back losses. That includes Providence and the team we're trying to displace.

Yesterday at SH was the intensity we need every game.

94GRAD
01-21-2018, 09:53 AM
Providence is the difference. I am assuming a loss at Butler. Given that we are one full game behind cause they won't lay an egg at providence like we did. We beat providence 9 out of 10 games there. This team is outright better than them. That loss wrapped up the conference title for Nova. I would never say that in other seasons so early but Nova is just that good. Can't slip up like that and think your gonna overtake a team as good as Nova. Just gonna be happy with 2nd place which may even be good enough for a one seed depending on how things play out

You know we are 1-5 at Providence since joining the Big East right?

XUOHTX
01-21-2018, 09:58 AM
This is the worst post EVER on this or any previous board.

Coaching.....coaching....coaching. Don't you ever get tired of being a nattering nabobs of negativism? Must be exhausting, right?

(Note: This badly coached team is now 18-3)

I'm definitely not perpetually negative. I like to think I'm realistic and level headed. I'm also responding to Mack's own words. I didn't say Mack couldn't do it or wouldn't. I'm saying I agree with our coach. It's an issue that needs to be fixed.

In the A10 we could rely on superior talent. We can't do that now and to be a consistent BE champion there is a hump we need to get over.

UCGRAD4X
01-21-2018, 10:14 AM
These things....are exactly like the others:

https://twt-thumbs.washtimes.com/media/image/2017/10/31/xavier_basketball_preview_81988_c0-170-4079-2548_s885x516.jpg?24559ccb8d9060880ff9f7cdc38c3ca1 08c4af0b

https://i1.wp.com/www.cincinnativseveryone.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Screen-Shot-2018-01-07-at-10.29.15-AM.png

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Georgetown+v+Xavier+YV4Y59ZFgmvx.jpg

Reps for the pics (damn 'the MAN').

XUOHTX
01-21-2018, 10:19 AM
*Checks Top 25 Basketball records*
*Sees NO undefeated teams*
*Rechecks records*
*Sees no teams that have NOT lost to an unranked team*

*Concludes that you are a cretin.*

We don't have to go undefeated and every team drops a bad game.

Identifying the one issue I believe we need to overcome makes me a cretin?

American X
01-21-2018, 10:24 AM
Play nice. XUOHTX is a longtime poster and true Xavier fan. He is just talking about an legitimate issue we have seen repeatedly with this team. No need for name calling.

But let's just agree to celebrate the huge win at Seton Hall and go ahead and win the Big East anyway.

X-band '01
01-21-2018, 10:27 AM
These things....are exactly like the others:

https://twt-thumbs.washtimes.com/media/image/2017/10/31/xavier_basketball_preview_81988_c0-170-4079-2548_s885x516.jpg?24559ccb8d9060880ff9f7cdc38c3ca1 08c4af0b

https://i1.wp.com/www.cincinnativseveryone.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Screen-Shot-2018-01-07-at-10.29.15-AM.png

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Georgetown+v+Xavier+YV4Y59ZFgmvx.jpg

No Coach, I told Cronin to brush his teeth.

xu82
01-21-2018, 10:28 AM
play nice. Xuohtx is a longtime poster and true xavier fan. He is just talking about an legitimate issue we have seen repeatedly with this team. No need for name calling.

but let's just agree to celebrate the huge win at seton hall and go ahead and win the big east anyway.


yay!

XUOHTX
01-21-2018, 10:29 AM
Play nice. XUOHTX is a longtime poster and true Xavier fan. He is just talking about an legitimate issue we have seen repeatedly with this team. No need for name calling.

But let's just agree to celebrate the huge win at Seton Hall and go ahead and win the Big East anyway.

Thanks X.

I knew it wouldn't be a popular opinion (especially after a huge W @SH) but that's why we have a discussion board.

waggy
01-21-2018, 11:15 AM
Providence had some problems in the non-con, but they are playing well now.

Olsingledigit
01-21-2018, 11:37 AM
All I know is this.

Guys like Snipe, American X, Go Muskies, XBand, Nuts, the Coz (Fred Garvin, whatever), Muskie, XU87, Xeus, XU82, LA Muskie, PMThor, I and many others have been pushing our fingers on keyboards on Xavier message boards for over 20 years. We have been Die Hard Musketeer fans through thick and thin through (some) the MCC, the A10 and now this incredible league that we dreamed about forming back as far as the last century. Now we are here, have a legitimate shot at winning a regular season Championship in one of the Top 3 leagues in the Country, have a shot at winning a Tournament championship in the same league and have a Legitimate shot at, not just getting to a Final 4, but winning the whole Damn thing.

The Dream is REAL. We have the most tough minded, talented and deep team we have ever had at Xavier. We have a home grown coach who has been through all the wars and developed into an elite leader and we have an assistant staff that is way above competent.

Other than two years ago, we've never been near here before. But, now THIS YEAR, we're just where we dreamed to be when Dr. Bill Dailey saved the athletic program from Mulligans' Murder attempt in 1979. It's now been a Forty year climb to here, and like Father Hoff displayed with his glider shaped hand, the trajectory is still up.

Enjoy the ride, this team and our earned enhanced position in the CBB world. Let's get it!!

Amen, MOR! I have been right there with you and the others - season ticket holder since 1983 and on the message board when it evolved. Seeing X in the FF would be a life long dream.

XUFan09
01-21-2018, 01:33 PM
Providence had some problems in the non-con, but they are playing well now.Yup. They had guys out with injury or playing injured for a number of games.

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xudash
01-21-2018, 02:06 PM
All I know is this.

Guys like Snipe, American X, Go Muskies, XBand, Nuts, the Coz (Fred Garvin, whatever), Muskie, XU87, Xeus, XU82, LA Muskie, PMThor, I and many others have been pushing our fingers on keyboards on Xavier message boards for over 20 years. We have been Die Hard Musketeer fans through thick and thin through (some) the MCC, the A10 and now this incredible league that we dreamed about forming back as far as the last century. Now we are here, have a legitimate shot at winning a regular season Championship in one of the Top 3 leagues in the Country, have a shot at winning a Tournament championship in the same league and have a Legitimate shot at, not just getting to a Final 4, but winning the whole Damn thing.

The Dream is REAL. We have the most tough minded, talented and deep team we have ever had at Xavier. We have a home grown coach who has been through all the wars and developed into an elite leader and we have an assistant staff that is way above competent.

Other than two years ago, we've never been near here before. But, now THIS YEAR, we're just where we dreamed to be when Dr. Bill Dailey saved the athletic program from Mulligans' Murder attempt in 1979. It's now been a Forty year climb to here, and like Father Hoff displayed with his glider shaped hand, the trajectory is still up.

Enjoy the ride, this team and our earned enhanced position in the CBB world. Let's get it!!

Post of the decade.

Joepalooka
01-21-2018, 08:01 PM
Send a message to Nova? Just win the rematch.

This would be our best road win of the year and put us back in contention for a 2 seed.

well, we beat Seton Hall in a manner to say 'sorry about your home court, we've got this' so Feb 17 at Cintas might well note if Xavier merits the league championship or not. GO MUSKIES!

Joepalooka
01-21-2018, 08:06 PM
so welcome to hear an upbeat, hopeful AND truly realistic post about our Muskies' chances at a Final Four (and Championship). With AD Christopher and Coach Mack this is REAL!

mid major
01-21-2018, 08:40 PM
well, we beat Seton Hall in a manner to say 'sorry about your home court, we've got this' so Feb 17 at Cintas might well note if Xavier merits the league championship or not. GO MUSKIES!

Actually, the Nova game is Sat Feb. 18. The Hall visits the 'Tas on Wed Feb. 14. Those are two huge games.

D-West & PO-Z
01-21-2018, 08:54 PM
Actually, the Nova game is Sat Feb. 18. The Hall visits the 'Tas on Wed Feb. 14. Those are two huge games.

Feb 17th

mid major
01-21-2018, 09:20 PM
Feb 17th

I stand corrected, then. Too much Don Q rum which carried over into today.

stammina0721
01-21-2018, 09:40 PM
You know we are 1-5 at Providence since joining the Big East right?

I am referring to this year. They have absolutely zero answer inside for our bigs. They needed ungodly shooting and a stretch of making 8 straight shots and make like their first 14 free throws when they are horrible at the line to win. It was a perfect storm. If we played them 10 times in their gym we win 9 this year. We just happened to get them on the wrong day.

I think at Creighton will be easier this year. Once again they just can't match up inside. They can't beat X unless they hit 14 or more 3's. They just can't answer inside to win any other way but hitting bombs. That said we know X is gonna lose one more they shouldn't. It's just going to happen. If it does that is a wrap cause Nova isn't losing more than 3 games in conference

stammina0721
01-21-2018, 09:43 PM
On a side note dont confuse playing down with playing better athletes. Fact is Trevon is outright out matched athletically in this league. It's not lack of trying its lack of athleticism. That is why he came back for his senior season. Just don't say Mack doesn't have them ready. To me it is a testament to his ability he can take less athletic player and put him in a position to be successful. Omara is in the same boat

SemajParlor
01-21-2018, 10:24 PM
February 17th is going to be fun.

Masterofreality
01-21-2018, 11:06 PM
I'm definitely not perpetually negative. I like to think I'm realistic and level headed. I'm also responding to Mack's own words. I didn't say Mack couldn't do it or wouldn't. I'm saying I agree with our coach. It's an issue that needs to be fixed.

In the A10 we could rely on superior talent. We can't do that now and to be a consistent BE champion there is a hump we need to get over.
You said that Xavier plays down to the level of lesser teams and that was a coaching issue.
Except that Xavier doesn't and it isn't. We played a tough game against an underrated team in ETSU after exams. We had a tough game against a DePaul team when we were shooting horribly and they were shooting well. We had a tough game at Providence. A Providence team that plays well at home and will most probably be an NCAA Touranent team. The other two games we lost were to NCAA Tournament teams. Where is the "playing down"?
You weren't "agreeing" with CMack, but were jabbing him.


We don't have to go undefeated and every team drops a bad game.

Identifying the one issue I believe we need to overcome makes me a cretin?
Except that's it's NOT an issue. Xavier hasn't played well in all games, but no team does. This is why no one is undefeated.
You also said that "it's been a problem for years....when it hasn't. An obvious jab at the Coach and going on to say that "it was a hurdle that had to get over." I don't know where the hurdle is or when it's been around this year. I guess I need to be enlightened.


Play nice. XUOHTX is a longtime poster and true Xavier fan. He is just talking about an legitimate issue we have seen repeatedly with this team. No need for name calling.

But let's just agree to celebrate the huge win at Seton Hall and go ahead and win the Big East anyway.

Yep, but his bringing up something that is not an issue and blaming "coaching" is ludicrous. How much more "coaching" does Chris Mack have to do before "coaching" is no longer even thought of as an issue?

Emp
01-22-2018, 12:09 AM
When we stop getting bitch slapped by Nova? I love Mack, never hear me call for firing him. But we've had the horses to compete but haven't come close. It's fair to put that on Mack. Doesn't make him a bad coach, but hes still behind Wright.

Snipe
01-22-2018, 10:25 AM
I do want to stop getting bitch slapped by Nova, but Nova has been the best program in college basketball over the past five years. They really have it going on.

Final AP Polls:

2014 Nova #6
2015 Nova #2
2016 Nova #6
2017 Nova #1

And so far this year, 2018

2018 Nova #1

The average over that 5 year span is 3.2. No other team in college basketball has consistently ranked so high. Over a five year span, they are the strongest program in college hoops.

They have the longest active streak of being ranked in the Top 10, currently at 40 weeks. #2 on the active streak list for the AP Top 10 is Duke at 12 weeks.

I am certainly tired of losing to them. Winning this conference is not going to be easy. That is what is going to make it so special.

chico
01-22-2018, 11:14 AM
You're saying this doesn't happen? Mack literally said we had an intensity problem after our back to back losses. That includes Providence and the team we're trying to displace.

Yesterday at SH was the intensity we need every game.

Not to pile on, but you're now just trying too hard to stick with an initial premise that was off base.

So where did that intensity come from? Was with the help of the coach of was it solely the players? Because if it's from the coach, then Mack is doing his job. And if it's from the players, well maybe this isn't a coaching issue. Moreover, the intensity was there against Seton Hall - Mack found the problem, and found a way to fix it. Is that not good coaching?

Teams has low points - 99.9% of them. There are rare instances where a team can play with the utmost intensity the entire season, but those seasons are so rare they're not worth mentioning. Sure, Xavier's had times when the they've played to their competition, but they've still won. And that is the goal here after all, isn't it? Our three losses are all to teams likely to be playing in March. Providence just waxed Creighton and they're 5-2 in the conference.

So I'm really at a loss to the beef you or anyone else has at this point. We're a top 10 team, top 5 RPI, gunning for a 2 seed in the tourney, and we control our own destiny for the championship of the arguably the best college basketball conference in the country. What the hell?

Masterofreality
01-22-2018, 11:14 AM
When we stop getting bitch slapped by Nova? I love Mack, never hear me call for firing him. But we've had the horses to compete but haven't come close. It's fair to put that on Mack. Doesn't make him a bad coach, but hes still behind Wright.

When Nova stops winning National Championships? Just a thought.

XU 87
01-22-2018, 11:41 AM
All I know is that X plays Marquette on Wednesday and that means "Bad News for the Eagles".

(Chico should get that movie quote.)

xuwin
01-22-2018, 01:35 PM
When we stop getting bitch slapped by Nova? I love Mack, never hear me call for firing him. But we've had the horses to compete but haven't come close. It's fair to put that on Mack. Doesn't make him a bad coach, but hes still behind Wright.

Getting bitch slapped by Nova has more to do with talent than anything. Nova has a roster full of NBA players and Xavier probably has none plus both teams have outstanding coaches. You could probably say the major difference between the two teams is Brunson>Goodin. No knock on Goodin but Brunson is just the best.

THRILLHOUSE
01-22-2018, 01:41 PM
This is the worst post EVER on this or any previous board.



Nah. I'd still go with "X Should go Independent", "Trevon isn't athletic enough for the Big East", and "Trevon needs to be shut down for multiple weeks" as worse takes in X Message Board History. (And honorable mention to the one dude flipping out after Macura's arrest last off-season.)

Anyway, as far as this topic goes, Nova will still win the Regular Season Title. I just can't see them losing enough games to be passed. Would love to be wrong, obviously. I'd also accept us finishing 2nd and then taking them out in the Big East Championship Game.

XUOHTX
01-22-2018, 02:02 PM
You said that Xavier plays down to the level of lesser teams and that was a coaching issue.
Except that Xavier doesn't and it isn't. We played a tough game against an underrated team in ETSU after exams. We had a tough game against a DePaul team when we were shooting horribly and they were shooting well. We had a tough game at Providence. A Providence team that plays well at home and will most probably be an NCAA Touranent team. The other two games we lost were to NCAA Tournament teams. Where is the "playing down"?
You weren't "agreeing" with CMack, but were jabbing him.


Except that's it's NOT an issue. Xavier hasn't played well in all games, but no team does. This is why no one is undefeated.
You also said that "it's been a problem for years....when it hasn't. An obvious jab at the Coach and going on to say that "it was a hurdle that had to get over." I don't know where the hurdle is or when it's been around this year. I guess I need to be enlightened.



Yep, but his bringing up something that is not an issue and blaming "coaching" is ludicrous. How much more "coaching" does Chris Mack have to do before "coaching" is no longer even thought of as an issue?


Not to pile on, but you're now just trying too hard to stick with an initial premise that was off base.

So where did that intensity come from? Was with the help of the coach of was it solely the players? Because if it's from the coach, then Mack is doing his job. And if it's from the players, well maybe this isn't a coaching issue. Moreover, the intensity was there against Seton Hall - Mack found the problem, and found a way to fix it. Is that not good coaching?

Teams has low points - 99.9% of them. There are rare instances where a team can play with the utmost intensity the entire season, but those seasons are so rare they're not worth mentioning. Sure, Xavier's had times when the they've played to their competition, but they've still won. And that is the goal here after all, isn't it? Our three losses are all to teams likely to be playing in March. Providence just waxed Creighton and they're 5-2 in the conference.

So I'm really at a loss to the beef you or anyone else has at this point. We're a top 10 team, top 5 RPI, gunning for a 2 seed in the tourney, and we control our own destiny for the championship of the arguably the best college basketball conference in the country. What the hell?


I agree with a lot of what you guys are saying. For the most part we've been able to overcome any lack of intensity or playing down and come out with the W. I said before, when you can complain about how you win instead of why you lose, you are in a great place. I do believe team intensity comes down from coach motivation. I don't think Mack is a bad coach by any means. I just think that is the answer to what I see is an issue.

Winning this league with Nova playing how they are playing is incredibly difficult. You have to win the games you are supposed to and a couple you probably aren't. That means never taking a day off. If we can do that, we can win BE and beyond.

I want a BE championship, Final Four appearance, and an NCAA Championship just as much as anyone. We can go around and around on this forever. This was an issue I believe we have to overcome. We may just have to agree to disagree.

bleedXblue
01-22-2018, 04:36 PM
Getting bitch slapped by Nova has more to do with talent than anything. Nova has a roster full of NBA players and Xavier probably has none plus both teams have outstanding coaches. You could probably say the major difference between the two teams is Brunson>Goodin. No knock on Goodin but Brunson is just the best.

Nova has Bridges as a projected first rounder. Booth and Brunson are both 2nd round projections.

I see the major difference being that Wright gets the ideal kids for his style of play. They fit his system perfectly and they let very few teams take them away from that.

BandDad
01-22-2018, 05:39 PM
Folks, we are making this way more complicated than it needs to be. We win on Feb 17th and we win the Big East. Snipe is right (when's the last time that was said). Villanova has played the bottom four teams in the league away from home so far and has not played any of the top five. When they lose on the 17th, they will certainly add one or two more road losses to that listing as well, which will give them 4-5 losses. We should end up with 3-4 losses in the league tops. Nova is very shorthanded right now and that lack of depth will eventually catch up to them.

AviatorX
01-22-2018, 07:15 PM
Folks, we are making this way more complicated than it needs to be. We win on Feb 17th and we win the Big East. Snipe is right (when's the last time that was said). Villanova has played the bottom four teams in the league away from home so far and has not played any of the top five. When they lose on the 17th, they will certainly add one or two more road losses to that listing as well, which will give them 4-5 losses. We should end up with 3-4 losses in the league tops. Nova is very shorthanded right now and that lack of depth will eventually catch up to them.

Yep, let's just chalk up Nova losing as many games the rest of the season as they have in conference the past 3 seasons and we're good.

Masterofreality
01-22-2018, 07:49 PM
On a more VERY pleasant topic, while we are in the context of "Historical Fan Dreamers".

I was extremely pleased to run into the Great Xavier Bob - from Finneytown- at the Creighton game. As many of you know, Bob was a Xavier defender on all of the old WLW Sportstalk shows with Trumpy and others. When there were very few that were bold enough to call in to toot the Xavier horn in a time and place when Cincinnati was all BoreCats and BeelzeBob Thuggins, Xavier Bob was bold enough to always pump up Xavier and take the hosts to task.

Bob in recent years has had some health issues and it seemed touch and go for awhile, but Bob told me that he's feeling good and almost all the way back. He looked great.

So, give a toast to Xavier Bob. Before message boards, Bob from Finneytown was out there as a True Blue Musketeer. If you know Bob and you see him at a game, give him a glad hand too.

GIMMFD
01-22-2018, 07:50 PM
I do want to stop getting bitch slapped by Nova, but Nova has been the best program in college basketball over the past five years. They really have it going on.

Final AP Polls:

2014 Nova #6
2015 Nova #2
2016 Nova #6
2017 Nova #1

And so far this year, 2018

2018 Nova #1

The average over that 5 year span is 3.2. No other team in college basketball has consistently ranked so high. Over a five year span, they are the strongest program in college hoops.

They have the longest active streak of being ranked in the Top 10, currently at 40 weeks. #2 on the active streak list for the AP Top 10 is Duke at 12 weeks.

I am certainly tired of losing to them. Winning this conference is not going to be easy. That is what is going to make it so special.

We didn't join this conference in hopes of it being another A-10 where we just dominate, we joined a conference that we can grow as a program in with some of the big boys and see what weight class we're punching at, and so far, it's been pretty impressive. Nova is still the undisputed champion, we're still getting blown out, but we're putting ourselves in position to make a quality strike soon. We're on the cusp guys, who would have thought that 10 years ago?

xu82
01-22-2018, 07:55 PM
We didn't join this conference in hopes of it being another A-10 where we just dominate, we joined a conference that we can grow as a program in with some of the big boys and see what weight class we're punching at, and so far, it's been pretty impressive. Nova is still the undisputed champion, we're still getting blown out, but we're putting ourselves in position to make a quality strike soon. We're on the cusp guys, who would have thought that 10 years ago?

Yep. The tough play in conference is what gets you ready for March. THAT is where it counts the most!

BandDad
01-22-2018, 07:56 PM
Yep, let's just chalk up Nova losing as many games the rest of the season as they have in conference the past 3 seasons and we're good.

So far Nova has played seven road games. They have been Temple (45), St, John's (67), Connecticut (89), Georgetown (146), DePaul (179) and St. Joe's (181) and lost to Butler (26). They get to play Marquette (44), Providence (38), XU (4), Creighton (34) and Seton Hall (19).

Also for the record, Nova lost three conference games last year and two each of the two years prior. The league is much deeper this year as there are currently seven teams in the top 44 with a low of 179 and an average rank of 56. Last year there were five in the top 44 with a low of 236 and an average rank of 71. Two years ago there were four in the top 44 with a low of 245 and an average rank of 89. This is not the same Big East and Nova does not have the same incredible talent as the last couple of years. Very good but not great.

Aviator, if we use your theory I guess we don't even need to play the games and can just hand the title to Nova.

American X
01-23-2018, 08:01 AM
I'm with BandDad. He has this all figured out. We got this locked up.

Xtemporaneous
01-23-2018, 12:46 PM
While we're talking about remaining road games - Creighton has lost the big that does the most lifting for them to an ACL tear. This bodes well for the Muskies when they go to Omaha. We will CRUSH them on the boards. Now we have to be careful as they'll be flopping like freshly caught fish. Should we get beyond that, the game is in the bag.

The remaining roadie that concerns me the most is St. John's in MSG. They're becoming more and more like a caged animal with every loss they absorb. So the game I'm looking at with concern right now is on 1/30.

Also 'Nova plays at Providence tonight. That'll be must-see TV. Like the XU game, it's PC's super bowl.

I love reading this board!

X-band '01
01-23-2018, 12:53 PM
Xavier plays the Johnnies in Carnesecca Arena, not MSG.

muethibp
01-23-2018, 02:29 PM
I've been away from the board for about a week. So I've missed this thread until now. I spent a lot of time posting in the "Trevon should sit" thread (http://www.xavierhoops.com/showthread.php?32505-Serious-question/page6&highlight=muethibp) about how I am highly focused on and greatly desire to win the BE regular season title. I won't repeat it at length but will only say that the BE regular season conference is a true test of a team and program - it almost certainly anoints the best team - and would be an incredible achievement for the program. I badly want to see the team win one some days. For the reasons outlined in this post, while you'd still have to give X a modest chance at it, the SH win allowed one to dream a little. And I have and will for so long as X holds serve at home.

novachap
01-24-2018, 01:02 PM
Your chances just went up significantly... Phil Booth is out indefinitely with a broken bone in his right (shooting) hand. Thin bench, even thinner now. Hoping he is back for the tourney at this point. Gillespie just got back from his broken hand, Samuels is still out with his... and now Booth. tough luck for him having sat all of last year with his knee.

Masterofreality
01-24-2018, 01:58 PM
Your chances just went up significantly... Phil Booth is out indefinitely with a broken bone in his right (shooting) hand. Thin bench, even thinner now. Hoping he is back for the tourney at this point. Gillespie just got back from his broken hand, Samuels is still out with his... and now Booth. tough luck for him having sat all of last year with his knee.

Oh, no man! I really love me some Phil Booth even though he plays for the opposition. He's had an injury star crossed career, but man can he shoot it.

I hope he is back for the post season. You guys chances in the Dance go waaaaay up with him in there.

X-band '01
01-24-2018, 02:15 PM
In the context of this thread, Booth's injury has no impact on how Xavier plays Marquette and other Big East teams. I am sorry to hear that about him, though.

XUOHTX
03-01-2018, 08:44 AM
We did it.

Yeah, we didn't beat Nova again this year. But we beat everyone else. That is the first step. It wasn't pretty at times but Mack made adjustments, the team persevered, players improved and we won.

We are Big East Champions!

GoMuskies
03-01-2018, 08:49 AM
When I started this thread, I was a touch skeptical of our chances. Can't believe it actually happened.

muethibp
03-01-2018, 09:34 AM
I've been away from the board for about a week. So I've missed this thread until now. I spent a lot of time posting in the "Trevon should sit" thread (http://www.xavierhoops.com/showthread.php?32505-Serious-question/page6&highlight=muethibp) about how I am highly focused on and greatly desire to win the BE regular season title. I won't repeat it at length but will only say that the BE regular season conference is a true test of a team and program - it almost certainly anoints the best team - and would be an incredible achievement for the program. I badly want to see the team win one some days. For the reasons outlined in this post, while you'd still have to give X a modest chance at it, the SH win allowed one to dream a little. And I have and will for so long as X holds serve at home.

I've been talking about trying to win a regular season BE title ever since the conference change. More than people in my life cared to hear about. Very, very satisfying.

Lloyd Braun
03-01-2018, 09:44 AM
We're not ready to win this league. We're better than most teams but not by enough. Until we stop playing down to lesser teams, we're not ready. And I believe that's coaching.




We can't beat nova in this league. Even if we beat nova at our place there is no way we run the table the rest of the way. That is what it will take to win the conference and it's just not going to happen.

Two of many posts in the “Did not age well” category.

muskiefan82
03-01-2018, 10:15 AM
Remember how jealous we were when UC won the Big East? Me neither.

Muskie
03-01-2018, 10:24 AM
Remember how jealous we were when UC won the Big East? Me neither.

I didn't even remember them winning the Big East. Haven't thought much about UC since December. I'm not inundated with UC coverage like many of you are.

Muskie1000
03-01-2018, 10:30 AM
I don't think they ever did...

muskiefan82
03-01-2018, 10:33 AM
I don't think they ever did...

They did not. I forgot to use sarcasm font.

Snipe
03-01-2018, 12:02 PM
When I started this thread, I was a touch skeptical of our chances. Can't believe it actually happened.

I thought about this thread recently. That Seton Hall game was huge, just the type of game we had to win. We were not going to contend without bringing it on the road. One of the huge wins of the season. They were undefeated at home. It set the table and got us back on track.

I am so proud of these young men.

bobbiemcgee
03-01-2018, 12:28 PM
Tre's 4 pointer vs G'Town was it for me. I thought "God wants us to win the BE", then, of course, there was the "foul"....

Muskie
03-01-2018, 12:50 PM
When I was a child, living in Big Ten Country with no post season tournament, I gravitated to the Big East Tournament as a Basketball Fan. Never in my wildest dreams did I ever think my Alma mater would at least share in a Big East Conference Championship. Last night was a sports fandom Bucket List Moment for me. What a ride it has been.

Ole blue eyes
03-02-2018, 06:18 PM
I saw on Facebook today that clublevelbrands.com, a local company, has 13 men’s and 5 ladies styles of officially licensed Big East Champion merchandise available. Golf shirts, 1/4 zips, and more. Same site offers over 80 styles of regular Xavier apparel, including styles by Brooks Brothers and Vera Bradley.

X-ceptional
03-03-2018, 02:57 PM
Lots of ink spilled about the losses to Nova, and no doubt they have one hell of a team. But consider Xavier went 15-1 against Creighton, Providence, Butler, Seton Hall, Marquette, Georgetown, St. John's, and DePaul. That's insane.

Oh, and they aren't done yet.

paulxu
03-03-2018, 03:54 PM
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GIMMFD
03-03-2018, 04:35 PM
I haven't played pick the score since the Villanova loss, so I'm going to say we won the Big East because of me, you're welcome. I accept $5 on Venmo.

novachap
03-03-2018, 05:07 PM
Congrats muskies, well done.

Snipe
03-03-2018, 05:17 PM
Thanks.

It was all me.

XUGRAD80
03-03-2018, 05:29 PM
And another one (season goal) bites the dust!

Congratulations players and coaches!

xudash
03-03-2018, 05:58 PM
Little Brother v2 - the Butler rednecks are wanting to play the "class" card again over Naji's play.

Those guys are somewhere between small minded and very jealous.

bjf123
03-03-2018, 06:49 PM
Little Brother v2 - the Butler rednecks are wanting to play the "class" card again over Naji's play.

Those guys are somewhere between small minded and very jealous.

Maybe both?


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IM4X
03-03-2018, 06:50 PM
When I was a child, living in Big Ten Country with no post season tournament, I gravitated to the Big East Tournament as a Basketball Fan. Never in my wildest dreams did I ever think my Alma mater would at least share in a Big East Conference Championship. Last night was a sports fandom Bucket List Moment for me. What a ride it has been.

Like you, I followed the Big East since I was a child: A huge Pitt fan back in the day when Ewing played for Georgetown and Mullin was played for SJ. I eventually moved to NYC (after graduating from X and going to grad school).

I have not missed a BE tournament at MSG in the past 22 years. So for me too... to have X join the BE conference and then now win the regular season title is pretty special. And to be able to watch my alma mater in the BE tournament every year (with a legit chance to win it this year) makes "pretty special" feel
more like a wonderful dream come true.

I am so excited about the the BE tournament.

IM4X
03-03-2018, 06:58 PM
And yet it just doesn't matter one little bit!

What an new and amazing feeling.

It's good to be the king!!!!

Congrats to Our Xavier players and coaches.

XUFan09
03-03-2018, 07:09 PM
Congrats muskies, well done.Appreciate the congratulations. You've been a good guest contributor on this board.

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MHettel
03-03-2018, 07:14 PM
We just won the Big East.

I’m intrigued here. Nova persists.

We won the BE, but lost twice against Nova.

Some stats:
Nova wins by year in BE: 16, 16,16,15,14
XU: 9, 10, 14,9,15

Nova vs x: 9-1
X vs Nova: 1-9

XU wins of total Nova losses: 1 of 13
nova wins of XU total losses: 9 of 33

..........

Allright. Hope the boys don’t blow their load. In order to ascend to the top of the mountain, we will have to take these guys down possibly twice. I wouldn’t celebrate shit at this point. Nova owns the BE and us too. We need to take that shit at MSG and then STOMP our way to a rematch in the FF.

Do it.

xudash
03-03-2018, 07:19 PM
Congrats muskies, well done.

Thank you.

Can't begin to tell you how nice it is to be in this conference and with Nova.

xavierj
03-03-2018, 07:23 PM
We just won the Big East.

I’m intrigued here. Nova persists.

We won the BE, but lost twice against Nova.

Some stats:
Nova wins by year in BE: 16, 16,16,15,14
XU: 9, 10, 14,9,15

Nova vs x: 9-1
X vs Nova: 1-9

XU wins of total Nova losses: 1 of 13
nova wins of XU total losses: 9 of 33

..........

Allright. Hope the boys don’t blow their load. In order to ascend to the top of the mountain, we will have to take these guys down possibly twice. I wouldn’t celebrate shit at this point. Nova owns the BE and us too. We need to take that shit at MSG and then STOMP our way to a rematch in the FF.

Do it.

I am convinced that if Xavier wins it all people on here will say, but they didn’t beat Arizona State, Nova and lost to Providence. Some people just cannot enjoy anything. I am sure Nova fans are pissed about winning it all two years ago since they lost to Xavier.

MHettel
03-03-2018, 07:25 PM
I am convinced that if Xavier wins it all people on here will say, but they didn’t beat Arizona State, Nova and lost to Providence. Some people just cannot enjoy anything. I am sure Nova fans are pissed about winning it all two years ago since they lost to Xavier.

And I’m saying “stay focused and make it personal”

xavierj
03-03-2018, 07:28 PM
And I’m saying “stay focused and make it personal”

I am sure they will stay focused. It’s ok to enjoy what they have done so far and a huge accomplishment to win the big east and go 15-3 against that gauntlet. But I get what you are saying.

Masterofreality
03-03-2018, 07:40 PM
Xavier won an outright Big East reg season Championship today. Still amazing to comprehend.
What was even better though was being there in person with Board Members Muskie, Mid Major, WCW III, Pimp in the Box, and the Premier himself, American X, among many others.

Well done posse!! Well done!! See you in New York!!

Go X!!

AviatorX
03-03-2018, 07:46 PM
Xavier had a better BE record than Nova. They played identical schedules. I don’t know if some understand this indisputable fact.

STL_XUfan
03-03-2018, 07:53 PM
Xavier had a better BE record than Nova. They played identical schedules. I don’t know if some understand this indisputable fact.
Hold on, does that mean Butler has to give back their 2017 championship?

xu82
03-03-2018, 08:11 PM
Remember when Nova was an early out each March? It’s a process. I’d rather go deep in the NCAA than the BE tourney or the regular season. We did pretty well in March last year. It was a fantastic couple of weeks. Let’s do THAT again, plus, and I’ll just get over a couple losses to a bad matchup.

Nigel Tufnel
03-03-2018, 08:45 PM
We just won the Big East.

I’m intrigued here. Nova persists.

We won the BE, but lost twice against Nova.

Some stats:
Nova wins by year in BE: 16, 16,16,15,14
XU: 9, 10, 14,9,15

Nova vs x: 9-1
X vs Nova: 1-9

XU wins of total Nova losses: 1 of 13
nova wins of XU total losses: 9 of 33

..........

Allright. Hope the boys don’t blow their load. In order to ascend to the top of the mountain, we will have to take these guys down possibly twice. I wouldn’t celebrate shit at this point. Nova owns the BE and us too. We need to take that shit at MSG and then STOMP our way to a rematch in the FF.

Do it.

Just have a beer and mumble/sing some Pearl Jam, ROTC. Haha.

paulxu
03-03-2018, 08:55 PM
That certainly explains the lack of a game thread.
If I'd knownn everyone was going, I might have got off my ass in time.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrTsuvykUZk

scoscox
03-03-2018, 09:11 PM
Hot Take: Trevon Bluiett should be BE POY

paulxu
03-03-2018, 09:14 PM
We just won the Big East.


Nova owns the BE and us too.

One of these things is not like the other.

skyking
03-03-2018, 09:28 PM
The Big East has a lot of class......teams and fans.

GreatWhiteNorth
03-03-2018, 10:00 PM
Nova may own us, but we own the teams that beat Nova. X is now the new BE champ, so give it a little time, we will beat them all.

Irishjohn68
03-04-2018, 12:37 AM
Beat Nova in the BE Finals!

Irishjohn68
03-04-2018, 12:47 AM
Sure hope this is just the beginning of XU controlling the Big East.

Masterofreality
03-04-2018, 05:52 AM
That certainly explains the lack of a game thread.
If I'd knownn everyone was going, I might have got off my ass in time.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrTsuvykUZk

Welp. Next year.

EVERYBODY comes to the DePaul game. Lots of people live here and it's an easy drive from all over the Midwest.

Masterofreality
03-04-2018, 06:48 AM
From 3-23 and 5-21 under Campbell and Krajack, I'm just enjoying the ride folks.

mid major
03-04-2018, 08:09 AM
[QUOTE=Masterofreality;614687]Xavier won an outright Big East reg season Championship today. Still amazing to comprehend.
What was even better though was being there in person with Board Members Muskie, Mid Major, WCW III, Pimp in the Box, and the Premier himself, American X, among many others.

Well done posse!! Well done!! See you in New York!!


94Grad was in the house as well. It’s was great seeing MOR and meeting American X. Man, WCW lll wasn’t kidding; their bag policy sucks. Even women can’t bring their purses. Clear plastic bags only.Wtf? Still brought in my bourbon and plenty of it at that.

stammina0721
03-04-2018, 09:26 AM
Sure hope this is just the beginning of XU controlling the Big East.

I hope so. Dont like talking about next year with 9 games to go this season, but I think Naji and Scruggs will be a great duo when given the chance to really shine

UCGRAD4X
03-04-2018, 09:36 AM
Beat Nova in the BE Finals!


Beat Nova in the BE Finals!

Juice included this KENPOM odds in another thread https://twitter.com/kenpomeroy/statu...43210587660288 (https://twitter.com/kenpomeroy/status/970143210587660288)

Lists X at slightly less than 50/50 to get to the finals but 18% to win it (it - sort of - assumes Villanova to be in the finals also).

I wondered what the odds would be assuming Villy was not the final opponent.

MuskieXU
03-04-2018, 10:17 AM
Juice included this KENPOM odds in another thread https://twitter.com/kenpomeroy/statu...43210587660288 (https://twitter.com/kenpomeroy/status/970143210587660288)

Lists X at slightly less than 50/50 to get to the finals but 18% to win it (it - sort of - assumes Villanova to be in the finals also).

I wondered what the odds would be assuming Villy was not the final opponent.

Xavier would have a 57% chance of beating Butler and 60% of beating Seton Hall according to Kenpom. We have a 28% chance of beating Villanova.

letskeepitreal
03-04-2018, 10:46 AM
I think when all is said and done that Naji and Scruggs will be among the best we’ve seen. Goodin will be no slouch either.

mistabeecee41
03-04-2018, 10:49 AM
I think when all is said and done that Naji and Scruggs will be among the best we’ve seen. Goodin will be no slouch either.

Q/Paul/Naji/Gates/Jones has the potential to be the best defensive starting lineup we’ve ever had. The bench is another story, but we’ll be fine with that starting group

scoscox
03-04-2018, 11:17 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYX-NSZMqt0

xudash
03-04-2018, 12:44 PM
From 3-23 and 5-21 under Campbell and Krajack, I'm just enjoying the ride folks.

It's not always bad being older, is it?

Makes you appreciate basketball purgatory.

profson
03-04-2018, 07:32 PM
I expect Boudreaux will start most games next year.