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American X
01-05-2018, 08:00 AM
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#5 Xavier Musketeers (15-1, 3-0) vs. Providence Friars (10-6, 1-2)

Time: 12:00 p.m. ET

Dunkin' Donuts Center | Providence, Rhode Island

TV: FOX

Radio: 700 WLW Listen Live (https://www.iheart.com/live/700wlw-1713/?autoplay=true&pname=15400&campid=header&cid=index.html)

Live Chat (http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=XavierHoops)

Live Stats (http://www.sidearmstats.com/xavier/mbball/)
(http://www.sidearmstats.com/xavier/mbball/)

GoXavier Preview (http://goxavier.com/news/2018/1/4/mens-basketball-no-5-4-xavier-travels-to-providence-for-saturday-showdown-on-fox.aspx)

Full Game Notes (https://s3.amazonaws.com/sidearm.sites/goxavier.com/documents/2018/1/4/2017_18_Xavier_Game_Notes_game_17_at_PROVIDENCE.pd f)

Enquirer Preview (https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/xavier/2018/01/05/xavier-travels-providence-college-seeking-1st-ever-4-0-start-big-east-play/1005845001/)


*check back for more links and articles

nuts4xu
01-05-2018, 03:35 PM
X-FACTORS
• Xavier, 15-1, has won 10 straight games, the second-longest win streak under ninth-year head coach Chris Mack. XU won 12 straight to start the 2015-16 season.
• Xavier's 3-0 start in BIG EAST play equals its best-ever start, equaling the 3-0 starts of 2013-14 and 2016-17.
• Xavier was the first team in the nation to reach 15 wins. The 15-1 record equals the best start in XU history. The 2015-16 team won 16 games before its second loss.
• Xavier is No. 5 in the new AP Poll and No. 4 in the USA Today Coaches Poll.
• Xavier is No. 2 in the latest NCAA Official RPI, one of four BIG EAST schools in the top 20 and eight in the top 65.
• Xavier is third in the BIG EAST and 14th nationally in field goal percentage at .510. Sophomore forward Tyrique Jones is second in the BIG EAST at 68.6 percent.
• Xavier leads the BIG EAST and is seventh in the nation in free-throw percentage at 78.9. That number jumps to 83.6 percent for the last five minutes and 89.6 percent for the last two minutes of games. XU has six players shooting 80 percent or better.
• Xavier senior Trevon Bluiett is third in the BIG EAST in scoring at 19.8 ppg. He is fifth on XU's all-time scoring list with 1,902 points.
• Xavier senior guard J.P. Macura, who is second on the team in scoring at 13.3 ppg. (20th in the BIG EAST), is 28th on XU's all-time scoring list with 1,254 points.
• Xavier head coach Chris Mack is 201-92 in his ninth year at the helm, which ranks one win shy of Xavier's all-time wins leader Pete Gillen (202 wins from 1985-94).
• Xavier, a 2017 NCAA Elite Eight team, has made it to at least the Sweet 16 six times in the last 10 years, one of only nine schools that can say that. XU is one of only eight schools have been to at least 11 of the last 12 NCAA tournaments.
• Xavier has graduated 105 straight men's basketball seniors dating back to the 1985-86 school year.

xu koop scoop
01-05-2018, 05:43 PM
Only fitting that Coach Mack ties Pete Gillen's record of 202 wins at Providence tomorrow, after all that is the school Gillen left us for.

XU after dark
01-05-2018, 09:06 PM
X-FACTORS
• Xavier, 15-1, has won 10 straight games, the second-longest win streak under ninth-year head coach Chris Mack. XU won 12 straight to start the 2015-16 season.
• Xavier's 3-0 start in BIG EAST play equals its best-ever start, equaling the 3-0 starts of 2013-14 and 2016-17.
• Xavier was the first team in the nation to reach 15 wins. The 15-1 record equals the best start in XU history. The 2015-16 team won 16 games before its second loss.
• Xavier is No. 5 in the new AP Poll and No. 4 in the USA Today Coaches Poll.
• Xavier is No. 2 in the latest NCAA Official RPI, one of four BIG EAST schools in the top 20 and eight in the top 65.
• Xavier is third in the BIG EAST and 14th nationally in field goal percentage at .510. Sophomore forward Tyrique Jones is second in the BIG EAST at 68.6 percent.
• Xavier leads the BIG EAST and is seventh in the nation in free-throw percentage at 78.9. That number jumps to 83.6 percent for the last five minutes and 89.6 percent for the last two minutes of games. XU has six players shooting 80 percent or better.
• Xavier senior Trevon Bluiett is third in the BIG EAST in scoring at 19.8 ppg. He is fifth on XU's all-time scoring list with 1,902 points.
• Xavier senior guard J.P. Macura, who is second on the team in scoring at 13.3 ppg. (20th in the BIG EAST), is 28th on XU's all-time scoring list with 1,254 points.
• Xavier head coach Chris Mack is 201-92 in his ninth year at the helm, which ranks one win shy of Xavier's all-time wins leader Pete Gillen (202 wins from 1985-94).
• Xavier, a 2017 NCAA Elite Eight team, has made it to at least the Sweet 16 six times in the last 10 years, one of only nine schools that can say that. XU is one of only eight schools have been to at least 11 of the last 12 NCAA tournaments.
• Xavier has graduated 105 straight men's basketball seniors dating back to the 1985-86 school year.

Great recap Nuts. I'm hoping you do another one next week to update CM's new record

X Factor
01-05-2018, 09:10 PM
Early line X -4. Hmmm...

GoMuskies
01-05-2018, 09:13 PM
Early line X -4. Hmmm...

Road games are hard.

paulxu
01-05-2018, 09:33 PM
Dunkin Donuts for lunch. Yum.

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American X
01-06-2018, 07:09 AM
Providence Journal Preview (http://www.providencejournal.com/sports/20180105/xavier-at-pc-friars-trying-to-get-back-on-track--podcast)



Also in Journal, file under Bottom Stories of the Day:

Fishing Report: 2017 was a mixed bag (http://www.providencejournal.com/sports/20180105/fishing-report-2017-was-mixed-bag)

They catch False Albacore out there. There was an epic False Albacore run. The False Albacore chase peanut bunker into the bay. Cross-post to Official WTF Thread.

False Albacore - worst white point guard nickname ever.

American X
01-06-2018, 07:54 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DS1Sne3V4AEeEql.jpg

Lloyd Braun
01-06-2018, 08:38 AM
Anyone else a bit “less than confident” for this game? Noon starts on the road scare me... maybe the National TV spotlight will be an equalizer for early start...

Xuperman
01-06-2018, 09:46 AM
The key to the whole game....if Rodney Bullock plays Friars could win. He was out for the MU shootout w/ stomach flu. I have scoured the internet for status but it is like he fell off the face of the earth. No current info on him. Anyone know if he will play?

XU3232
01-06-2018, 09:51 AM
The key to the whole game....if Rodney Bullock plays Friars could win. He was out for the MU shootout w/ stomach flu. I have scoured the internet for status but it is like he fell off the face of the earth. No current info on him. Anyone know if he will play?

Bullock is definitely playing.

Xuperman
01-06-2018, 10:04 AM
I can find no mention on the Friar town hoops forum about his status. Very strange. You would think it would be the top concern for their fans. What is your source he will play?

xu koop scoop
01-06-2018, 10:25 AM
We win unless one of our players gets hurt or foul trouble for what I call the Key 3 - Q, Tre orJP.. We are at full strength. All 9 contributors seem healthy. Hope nobody had a sleepless night.

American X
01-06-2018, 11:10 AM
Anyone else a bit “less than confident” for this game? Noon starts on the road scare me... maybe the National TV spotlight will be an equalizer for early start...

Chance to move to highest ranking in program history. Chance to set up top five matchup with Villanova. Desperate PCU squad at home. Should be a breeze, right? What could possible happen to a top five team on the road?

American X
01-06-2018, 11:15 AM
Banners on the Parkway Preview (https://www.bannersontheparkway.com/2018/1/6/16856520/xavier-providence-preview-matchups-keys-to-the-game-big-east-basketball)

XU3232
01-06-2018, 11:48 AM
I can find no mention on the Friar town hoops forum about his status. Very strange. You would think it would be the top concern for their fans. What is your source he will play?

I saw it on Twitter this morning from multiple sources.. I had a feeling he would be ready to go for this game.

American X
01-06-2018, 12:02 PM
Live Stats from PCU (http://www.friars.com/gametracker/launch/gt_mbaskbl.html?event=1574444&school=prov&sport=mbaskbl&camefrom=&startschool=&).

Does not appear Xavier Live Stats is updating.

mistabeecee41
01-06-2018, 12:16 PM
Haven’t watched much of Providence this year but my first impression is they are very average. Gotta have this one.

RoseyMuskie
01-06-2018, 12:23 PM
Scruggs to the bench, please and thanks.

UCGRAD4X
01-06-2018, 12:23 PM
Gotta stop the turnovers and the three. Zone is not working. Scruggs has got to show up.

X Factor
01-06-2018, 12:23 PM
This team can't lock down on defense.

Scruggs looks bad.

UCGRAD4X
01-06-2018, 12:25 PM
shooters gotta shoot

bleedXblue
01-06-2018, 12:26 PM
Scruggs has the look of a guy who is thinking way too much and not just playing

UCGRAD4X
01-06-2018, 12:28 PM
Not asking too much

X Factor
01-06-2018, 12:29 PM
They're on pace for 55 points this half

RoseyMuskie
01-06-2018, 12:32 PM
Well that was a poor officiating sequence.

X Factor
01-06-2018, 12:32 PM
Goodin for 3!!

X Factor
01-06-2018, 12:33 PM
Why do we always turn it over a million times in the first half?

UCGRAD4X
01-06-2018, 12:34 PM
I laughed when the announcer said after the openning three pointer that immediately "Xavier is on it's heels" - after the FIRST BUCKET?

Whose laughing now?

UCGRAD4X
01-06-2018, 12:36 PM
Should we keep working inside? Bigs are not even getting to the hoop. But can hardly afford to abandon it.

paulxu
01-06-2018, 12:36 PM
Providence still believes in (and makes) mid range jumpers.

The single greatest weakness of the 2017-18 Musketeers is their own sloppy play.
Don't know why we can't correct that. It should be correctable.

This does not disparage the good defensive efforts of our opponents.
But clearly many (most?) of our TO's are from lackadaisical effort in passing, holding onto the ball, etc.

X Factor
01-06-2018, 12:39 PM
Defense sucks

UCGRAD4X
01-06-2018, 12:41 PM
8 blocks for the friars :smack:

X Factor
01-06-2018, 12:42 PM
Blowout...we have to lead the country in shot blocks against

Lloyd Braun
01-06-2018, 12:42 PM
8 blocks for the friars :smack:

Seems like every team blocks us at an incredible rate

X Factor
01-06-2018, 12:46 PM
Scruggs stinks

kellernr
01-06-2018, 12:47 PM
Scruggs is garbage

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UCGRAD4X
01-06-2018, 12:49 PM
Scruggs stinks

Putting a lot of pressure on him - they know he stinks.

X Factor
01-06-2018, 12:49 PM
Our freshman suck today

UCGRAD4X
01-06-2018, 12:51 PM
Our freshman suck today

awful shot by naji

ArizonaXUGrad
01-06-2018, 12:51 PM
Another 10 turnover half, that is a problem.


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mistabeecee41
01-06-2018, 12:54 PM
Ugh. Chris’s end of half play calling has been terrible

UCGRAD4X
01-06-2018, 12:54 PM
don't hold it - just score!!!!!!!

i hate that strategy and X sucks at it.

Mack has to do something about it.

kellernr
01-06-2018, 12:54 PM
Not sure how this freshman class was rated so high. We are going to be bad the next few seasons.

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letskeepitreal
01-06-2018, 12:54 PM
Pretty lackluster half but we’re still in the game. We gotta,open up fast in the 2nd half.

Lloyd Braun
01-06-2018, 12:54 PM
Could be worse. Not sustainable for Providence if we get any real bench play.

X Factor
01-06-2018, 12:54 PM
Typical garbage shot to an end a half

xuinmd
01-06-2018, 12:55 PM
I remember guys asking how long it would be before scrugggs became the staring point.

X Factor
01-06-2018, 12:55 PM
Not sure how this freshman class was rated so high. We are going to be bad the next few seasons.

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Without MAJOR improvement, yes.

TUclutch
01-06-2018, 12:56 PM
not sure how this freshman class was rated so high. We are going to be bad the next few seasons.

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lol

RoseyMuskie
01-06-2018, 12:56 PM
Not sure how this freshman class was rated so high. We are going to be bad the next few seasons.

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I’ll atrribute this to terrible end of half possession frustration.

But Scruggs has certainly been a disaster today. He should get no more than 4 min in the 2H, if that.

UCGRAD4X
01-06-2018, 12:57 PM
I would say we're wearing them down with our depth - but our bench is sucking it. One make by Sean one by Kanter. Did I miss any other. Naji? Scruggs?

X Factor
01-06-2018, 12:58 PM
I would say we're wearing them down with our depth - but our bench is sucking it. One make by Sean one by Kanter. Did I miss any other. Naji? Scruggs?

Naji has thrown up a couple horrendous shots and Scruggs is the HTM (Human Turnover Machine)

XUOHTX
01-06-2018, 12:58 PM
We've had too many first halves like that one. Opponent shoots a high percentage (although Providence cooled off) and we turn it over way too much.

That has to stop.

Xupergirl
01-06-2018, 01:00 PM
People on the pick a score thread are crazy saying we’ll win by 10 or even 20. This is going to be a tough game and we will win by 2 or 4, if we do win at all.

stammina0721
01-06-2018, 01:02 PM
I cant believe we are looking at college players who dont come to the pass. We only have 5 turnovers if guys are not lazy and take two steps towards a pass instead of waiting. The scouting report on X is out. Good team but no stellar athletes. Cause of this teams are playing them more tightly defensively. To counter this our passing is going to have to get much better

kellernr
01-06-2018, 01:02 PM
I remember guys asking how long it would be before scrugggs became the staring point.I remember people saying he would be here 2 years and leave for the NBA. He has a ton of potential but goes 1000mph and rushes everything.

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bleedXblue
01-06-2018, 01:02 PM
We've had too many first halves like that one. Opponent shoots a high percentage (although Providence cooled off) and we turn it over way too much.

That has to stop.

DING< DING< DING Post of the day!!!!!!!!

stammina0721
01-06-2018, 01:03 PM
People on the pick a score thread are crazy saying we’ll win by 10 or even 20. This is going to be a tough game and we will win by 2 or 4, if we do win at all.

Look at mine... I had a one point won but said very good chance at an upset. Sad thing is Providence wont finish in top half of the league

xavierj
01-06-2018, 01:03 PM
I would take Xavier in 2nd half. Amazing only down 8. Providence has 12 assists, 4 turnovers, 8 steals and 6 blocks, made 6 threes and is shooting 46%. Xavier is shooting 35%, 30% from 3 missed 4 free throws, has 5 assists, and missed several easy shots.

bleedXblue
01-06-2018, 01:03 PM
People on the pick a score thread are crazy saying we’ll win by 10 or even 20. This is going to be a tough game and we will win by 2 or 4, if we do win at all.

Great call at half time............

ArizonaXUGrad
01-06-2018, 01:04 PM
This is a tough but winnable game. People freshmen have ups and downs. You can’t make a career ruling based on a down game.


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bleedXblue
01-06-2018, 01:06 PM
This is a tough but winnable game. People freshmen have ups and downs. You can’t make a career ruling based on a down game.


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Yep......gotta take care of the ball and defend better.

stammina0721
01-06-2018, 01:06 PM
On the Big East commercial I think I see Xavier getting dunked on at least 4 times. I'd say sounds right but I think showing a team hitting a million threes sounds more right

X Factor
01-06-2018, 01:08 PM
This is a tough but winnable game. People freshmen have ups and downs. You can’t make a career ruling based on a down game.


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No but Scruggs was a Top 40 recruit. I think people, myself included, thought he would make an impact. He hasn't this year.

X Factor
01-06-2018, 01:08 PM
We need some athletic big men.

kellernr
01-06-2018, 01:09 PM
This is a tough but winnable game. People freshmen have ups and downs. You can’t make a career ruling based on a down game.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkScruggs hasn't had any ups all season. At least Marshall has shown up occasionally

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bleedXblue
01-06-2018, 01:09 PM
We need some athletic big men.

We haven't had a rim protector since.......????

paulxu
01-06-2018, 01:10 PM
And of course the half opens with a block

Lloyd Braun
01-06-2018, 01:12 PM
Q should shoot more 3s

Xupergirl
01-06-2018, 01:12 PM
We don’t have Fox to watch the game and I’m only 13 so I can’t get into a bar to watch like my dad can- I’m following the score and game statistics so far. How is this happening??

X Factor
01-06-2018, 01:12 PM
We haven't had a rim protector since.......????

David West

American X
01-06-2018, 01:12 PM
Quentin Goodin hit a second three. We are absolutely winning.

Blue Blooded-05
01-06-2018, 01:14 PM
Quentin Goodin hit a second three. We are absolutely winning.

I now expect Goodin to shoot 100% from 3 in every game for the remainder of the season.

paulxu
01-06-2018, 01:15 PM
Why Q, why take that shot?

TUclutch
01-06-2018, 01:15 PM
We need some athletic big men.

Tyrique isn't athletic? Gates? You continue to show how dumb you are

UCGRAD4X
01-06-2018, 01:16 PM
How the f*ck is that a foul!!!!????

UCGRAD4X
01-06-2018, 01:19 PM
We don’t have Fox to watch the game and I’m only 13 so I can’t get into a bar to watch like my dad can- I’m following the score and game statistics so far. How is this happening??

That's cute! How can u not have Fox? It's channel 3 on Fioptics. It's one of the local, basic channels/

xavierj
01-06-2018, 01:19 PM
We don’t have Fox to watch the game and I’m only 13 so I can’t get into a bar to watch like my dad can- I’m following the score and game statistics so far. How is this happening??

Do you have a TV? Fox is a free network channel.

TUclutch
01-06-2018, 01:19 PM
That's cute! How can u not have Fox? It's channel 3 on Fioptics. It's one of the local, basic channels/

Lol. if you have a tv you have fox

paulxu
01-06-2018, 01:20 PM
We can get this. Settle down and stop the TO's.

RoseyMuskie
01-06-2018, 01:21 PM
Nice adjustment having Macura sit at the elbow.

Xupergirl
01-06-2018, 01:22 PM
Yes I know but we don’t have cable; I’m living off sling and Netflix. I can watch most games on FS1 on sling but not on Fox.

UCGRAD4X
01-06-2018, 01:23 PM
We don’t have Fox to watch the game and I’m only 13 so I can’t get into a bar to watch like my dad can- I’m following the score and game statistics so far. How is this happening??

Thanks for checking in Xupergirl - don't be a stranger. Good to get the young perspective.

Don't take this the wrong way, But I usually ask my 13 year old to figure out these kind of problems (except my 13 year old is now 19 1/2).

TUclutch
01-06-2018, 01:23 PM
Yes I know but we don’t have cable; I’m living off sling and Netflix. I can watch most games on FS1 on sling but not on Fox.

google firstrowsports or vipbox sports

HenryMuto
01-06-2018, 01:23 PM
How is that a foul ? Absurd

UCGRAD4X
01-06-2018, 01:23 PM
What a STUPID foul on Bluitt

paulxu
01-06-2018, 01:24 PM
having them in the bonus already is not good

Lloyd Braun
01-06-2018, 01:26 PM
Nice adjustment having Macura sit at the elbow.

Yes he jacked too many threes in the first half (6?).

paulxu
01-06-2018, 01:27 PM
Chance to tie? Nope...sloppy dribble TO

Xupergirl
01-06-2018, 01:29 PM
I’m following the game through scores and statistics but also what you guys are saying- it helps me learn more about the game, terms and sport itself. Come on X let’s play some basketball��

UCGRAD4X
01-06-2018, 01:29 PM
when are the friars going to miss?

kellernr
01-06-2018, 01:30 PM
Was a 2pt game. Marshall comes in and the lead goes to 7. He looks lost out there.

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Lloyd Braun
01-06-2018, 01:30 PM
I’m following the game through scores and statistics but also what you guys are saying- it helps me learn more about the game, terms and sport itself. Come on X let’s play some basketball��

Not sure you are in the right forum to learn about the sport!

mistabeecee41
01-06-2018, 01:31 PM
Man defense has been fine - why go back to the zone that got torched in the 1H?

kellernr
01-06-2018, 01:31 PM
when are the friars going to miss?When we quit leaving them wide open.

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stammina0721
01-06-2018, 01:32 PM
I didn't know we were playing the number 1 free throw shooting team in the country. I am sick and tired of teams going well above season averages when they play X

mistabeecee41
01-06-2018, 01:32 PM
https://twitter.com/jcraw55/status/949709566014644225

Olsingledigit
01-06-2018, 01:33 PM
When we quit leaving them wide open.

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Amen to that

stammina0721
01-06-2018, 01:33 PM
Funny how these teams dont show or get up for Nova though

UCGRAD4X
01-06-2018, 01:35 PM
Quentins third - Scruggs coming back in. Gotta keep Q for late game. Home Scruggs turns it up.

xukeith
01-06-2018, 01:36 PM
Great game.
Both teams playing with great energy.

X looks good but Friars are making clutch 3's.

Why is Gates not shooting a 3?

UCGRAD4X
01-06-2018, 01:36 PM
Q third foul. Scruggs gotta turn it on. Need Q for late game.

paulxu
01-06-2018, 01:38 PM
This Providence team can flat out shoot the mid range jumper.

Xupergirl
01-06-2018, 01:38 PM
Praise Jesus I got the game on some free sports network. Is this illegal? It’s worth it. I hope they pull it together.

xukeith
01-06-2018, 01:39 PM
Mack needs to play NO freshmen in last 7 minutes of the game.

Lloyd Braun
01-06-2018, 01:39 PM
Need to get some stops. Where’s kaiser

xukeith
01-06-2018, 01:42 PM
Kanter just lost the game and Macura fouling in frustration.
Stupid.

stammina0721
01-06-2018, 01:43 PM
We just lost to the third worst team.in the conference. Providence will only win 5 games in conference this year

RoseyMuskie
01-06-2018, 01:43 PM
Get to within 3 for the last war and Moxie Macura will hit another incredible Providence road three

paulxu
01-06-2018, 01:45 PM
Hell, I ain't giving up yet.

Xupergirl
01-06-2018, 01:45 PM
Where is kaiser?? 0 points 0 assists 1 rebound???

RoseyMuskie
01-06-2018, 01:46 PM
Defensive lineup. Let’s see if it works.

paulxu
01-06-2018, 01:46 PM
What a BS call on JP

stammina0721
01-06-2018, 01:46 PM
I see an early tournament exit in our March future. If we let Providence score on 7 straight possessions how can we make key stops vs good teams

HenryMuto
01-06-2018, 01:46 PM
I would have preferred to save our road losses for places like Villanova and Butler and not lose at Providence. So hard to win on the road.

Xupergirl
01-06-2018, 01:47 PM
Why is he playing freshman??? Naji just now only scored 2 points of the whole game. Bad

HenryMuto
01-06-2018, 01:47 PM
Giving away pts at the line 3 misses by an 88% FT shooter wtf ?

xukeith
01-06-2018, 01:48 PM
Bluiett needs to make freethrows.

Horrible for a senior.
Not an NBA player being shutdown by Friars.

TUclutch
01-06-2018, 01:48 PM
Anyone gonna call out Bluiett? Hes played like shit today. Missing freethrows. not scoring in the second half

xukeith
01-06-2018, 01:48 PM
Anyone gonna call out Bluiett? Hes played like shit today. Missing freethrows. not scoring in the second half

Agree. No NBA scouts liking him. He choked 2nd half.

paulxu
01-06-2018, 01:48 PM
When's the last time Tre missed 3 Ft's in one game?

mistabeecee41
01-06-2018, 01:49 PM
Anyone gonna call out Bluiett? Hes played like shit today. Missing freethrows. not scoring in the second half

He’s played like shit for 7 games. Nobody has cared because we’ve won

RoseyMuskie
01-06-2018, 01:49 PM
Bluiett missing two front ends in a game simply cannot happen.

xukeith
01-06-2018, 01:50 PM
When's the last time Tre missed 3 Ft's in one game?

Tu Holloway would never miss cluth FTs

Xville
01-06-2018, 01:50 PM
I'm sick of blueitt disappearing for halves of games

HenryMuto
01-06-2018, 01:50 PM
Bluiett missing two front ends in a game simply cannot happen.

4 huge pts that were needed badly

xukeith
01-06-2018, 01:51 PM
Bluiett MUSt be injured or scared.

paulxu
01-06-2018, 01:52 PM
I'd much rather Tre take a 3, than drive the lane

RoseyMuskie
01-06-2018, 01:53 PM
Macura in, for the whip around baseline three. Calling my shot.

TUclutch
01-06-2018, 01:53 PM
He’s played like shit for 7 games. Nobody has cared because we’ve won

Thats not true

UCGRAD4X
01-06-2018, 01:54 PM
I'd much rather Tre take a 3, than drive the lane

tru dat

stammina0721
01-06-2018, 01:54 PM
I cant imagine any 1st team conference player being scoreless in a half. Good player but nowhere near a Wooden candidate or even 1st team all conference

paulxu
01-06-2018, 01:55 PM
Our FT defense is crappy. They're shooting 93.3%

HenryMuto
01-06-2018, 01:55 PM
Providence 14/15 from line, X 10/15 including a couple front end of 1 and 1 misses.

Providence on the year 67% FT shooting team

X on the year 79%

If both teams shot their avg at the line X would be up instead of down 6.

UCGRAD4X
01-06-2018, 01:56 PM
ooops

xukeith
01-06-2018, 01:56 PM
Overrated and can't drive the ball

paulxu
01-06-2018, 01:57 PM
Let Kaiser shoot some...just for the fun of it.

Xupergirl
01-06-2018, 01:57 PM
What is Bluiett’s problem????

HenryMuto
01-06-2018, 01:58 PM
This is not looking good a travel called on a play that could cut it to 4 and now down 9.

stammina0721
01-06-2018, 01:58 PM
Well happy about one thing... I took the 5.5 and bet providence

HenryMuto
01-06-2018, 01:59 PM
I hate Noon tip games on the road this is why.

Olsingledigit
01-06-2018, 01:59 PM
What is Bluiett’s problem????

Terrible disappointment from Tre today. Not sure what the issue is.

Lloyd Braun
01-06-2018, 01:59 PM
These refs are trash. Calling the game completely differently from first half as well.

RoseyMuskie
01-06-2018, 02:00 PM
When your star misses front ends, disappears. you don’t hit a three in the 2H, and you turn it over at a ridiculous rate, you lose.

HenryMuto
01-06-2018, 02:00 PM
Providence lost at home to Marquette this year. Lost to terrible UMASS team. This one is going to hurt.

paulxu
01-06-2018, 02:01 PM
Down by 8 with minute to go, shoot 3's

stammina0721
01-06-2018, 02:01 PM
These refs are trash. Calling the game completely differently from first half as well.

Dont blame officiating. This team is very overrated. They are more like a 15 to 20 ranking definitely not top 5

HenryMuto
01-06-2018, 02:01 PM
So much for Providence being 67% from the line they can't miss today.

RoseyMuskie
01-06-2018, 02:01 PM
When your star misses front ends, disappears. you don’t hit a three in the 2H, and you turn it over at a ridiculous rate, you lose.

I’m sorry, Goodin hit a three. Points remains

Lloyd Braun
01-06-2018, 02:01 PM
Has Kaiser scored?

xukeith
01-06-2018, 02:01 PM
X can only lose 3-4 more times for a decent seed.

Bluietts worst game and biggest choke job. Senior leadership was only done by Kanter. No clutch 3's by anyone.

Lloyd Braun
01-06-2018, 02:02 PM
Dont blame officiating. This team is very overrated. They are more like a 15 to 20 ranking definitely not top 5

Didn’t blame the refs at all. Just saying they are trash and inconsistent.

kellernr
01-06-2018, 02:02 PM
Absolute garbage today. Blueitt just stood around 90% of the game. Why drive the lane when down 10 and less than 2 minutes to go. Jp has passed up multiple wide open 3s to try his shitty little pull up floaters from the baseline and missed.

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Xupergirl
01-06-2018, 02:02 PM
Kaiser has no scored or even had a assist. They deserve to lose. They need to open their eyes and see that they can’t go in and play like that and expect to win.

kellernr
01-06-2018, 02:03 PM
X can only lose 3-4 more times for a decent seed.

Bluietts worst game and biggest choke job. Senior leadership was only done by Kanter. No clutch 3's by anyone.Got another L coming up Wednesday.

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X Factor
01-06-2018, 02:03 PM
Bad defense is a recipe for an early tourney exit. There's a reason Xavier is ranked so low by KenPom. Bad defense.

Bleuitt has been mediocre for a couple of weeks. Kaiser Gates is invisible.

bjf123
01-06-2018, 02:04 PM
Absolutely horrible game. Going to drop out of the top ten after the loss on Wednesday to Villanova.


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mistabeecee41
01-06-2018, 02:04 PM
A popular Xavier twitter account came at me when I said I don’t care what are ranking is, we’re not playing like a championship level team. Barely beating ETSU, almost blowing it at home against Marshall, struggling vs DePaul, missing FTs st the end of the Butler game, our star in a slump.

Another example today.

Xville
01-06-2018, 02:04 PM
Yep going to lose two in a row. This team has been playing way below their ability for weeks and gotten away with it. In a way I think it's good it finally caught up to them. They need to get refocused

GoMuskies
01-06-2018, 02:05 PM
Well, that was a frustrating way to spend a Saturday afternoon. Worst game of Trevon's career?

UCGRAD4X
01-06-2018, 02:05 PM
Turrible, turrible, turrible

HenryMuto
01-06-2018, 02:05 PM
Unless X can win against some really good teams on the road this is looking like a 5-6 loss regular season in the Big East.

At Nova, At Butler, At Seton Hall, at Creighton still home games against all those teams except Butler as well.

X Factor
01-06-2018, 02:05 PM
Nova is going to torch us Wednesday.

UCGRAD4X
01-06-2018, 02:06 PM
Prov light out on FF - blueitt blow another

kellernr
01-06-2018, 02:06 PM
And goodin is still trash when it comes to finishing around the rim

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X Factor
01-06-2018, 02:06 PM
Unless X can win against some really good teams on the road this is looking like a 5-6 loss regular season in the Big East.

At Nova, At Butler, At Seton Hall, at Creighton still home games against all those teams except Butler as well.

St. John's won't be easy. They could block 20 shots against us.

UCGRAD4X
01-06-2018, 02:08 PM
Hopefully a lot of this happens to OTHER teams in the conference - and the fact that it is a conference game on the road doesn't count against us too much.

xuinmd
01-06-2018, 02:09 PM
Hardin was by far our best frosh today. JP for backup point guard

xukeith
01-06-2018, 02:09 PM
We need Tu Holloway. o'Mara didn't play much in 2nd half. Best players are athletic. X will lose at Nova, at Creighton, at SJ, at Seton Hall.
No loses at home I hope.

xukeith
01-06-2018, 02:10 PM
Hardin was by far our best frosh today. JP for backup point guard

That is funny. Not looking good. Freshmen played horrible turning ball over and looking scared.

mistabeecee41
01-06-2018, 02:11 PM
Well, that was a frustrating way to spend a Saturday afternoon. Worst game of Trevon's career?

7 straight games shooting under 43%. JP is our best player and I really don't even think it's that close.

2227

UCGRAD4X
01-06-2018, 02:11 PM
How long has it been since X had a really impressive game? Cincinnati?

A top five looking game?

Jesuit4Life
01-06-2018, 02:12 PM
Just one of those afternoons. I'm not going to overreact.

Need to regroup for Wednesday.

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AviatorX
01-06-2018, 02:12 PM
7 straight games shooting under 43%. JP is our best player and I really don't even think it's that close.

2227

C'mon...

UCGRAD4X
01-06-2018, 02:12 PM
They pretty much abandoned the 3 in the second half.

Mel Cooley XU'81
01-06-2018, 02:13 PM
There's a racetrack expression for what we just witnessed: "Not Today."

BMoreX
01-06-2018, 02:13 PM
1. Defense
2. Turnovers
3. Blueitt becoming a ghost in the second half

GoMuskies
01-06-2018, 02:13 PM
Trevon really went hunting for some godawful shots. That was frustrating.

BMoreX
01-06-2018, 02:14 PM
They pretty much abandoned the 3 in the second half.

To be fair, both Jones and Kanter were abusing their frontcourt once their big got into foul trouble.

UCGRAD4X
01-06-2018, 02:14 PM
They pretty much abandoned the 3 in the second half.

Friars didn't.

GuyFawkes38
01-06-2018, 02:14 PM
A bit concerned about Bluiett. Hopefully not battling that shoulder injury.

But still, not a bad loss at all. This conference is brutal. It’s just not set up for us to get a 1 or 2 seed. But we will be just as potent in the NCAA Tourney.

Some positives. Kanter and Jones played great. Goodin made two 3’s. And no injuries.

XUBob
01-06-2018, 02:14 PM
Some of you know who I am, I used to post all the time but I thought my voice was getting old, new perspective is always good to get. Today I have to get my two cents in. Not to be a negative Nancy but I’m not surprised at all by today’s play. I wish I could put my finger on it but too often X goes on the road and looks mentally weak. I know it’s tough to play on the road but if this team is any good you have to beat teams like Providence. Ten first half turnovers is unacceptable I dont blame Chris the players have to understand what is at stake. If they think they can turn it on and off they are sadly mistaken. I like many are wondering if Scruggs will be a bust. I think we have a tendency to play too fast on the road. My biggest problem is this team not valuing each possession. I know we will bounce back too much talent not to, but, I think we are kidding ourselves if we think a long tourney run will happen this year.
I’ll continue to pull for those guys no matter what,but, today really disappointing. Thanks for letting me vent.

X Factor
01-06-2018, 02:15 PM
Kaiser 6'8 Gates doesn't do anything but stand around the 3 or line.

Trevon has been awful for a while.

Freshman haven't progressed since the beginning of the year.

Our defense is a mess.

UCGRAD4X
01-06-2018, 02:17 PM
Senior did not show up in the second half. Inexcusable and can not happen in conference play (or any other games for that matter).

Performance like that in the tourney and it is an early exit.

GoMuskies
01-06-2018, 02:17 PM
I thought Naji was generally okay. But yes, Scruggs was a mess today.

mistabeecee41
01-06-2018, 02:17 PM
A bit concerned about Bluiett. Hopefully not battling that shoulder injury.

But still, not a bad loss at all. This conference is brutal. It’s just not set up for us to get a 1 or 2 seed. But we will be just as potent in the NCAA Tourney.

Some positives. Kanter and Jones played great. Goodin made two 3’s. And no injuries.

another positive - elias harden was our 5th best player

mohr5150
01-06-2018, 02:18 PM
Our free throw shooting, their free throw shooting, turnovers, and bad defense were the keys to this game. Making a big deal about Bluiett getting shut out in the second half would take away from how they were feeding the beast in Kanter for most of the half. The problem with Kanter is that he scores, but our defense is so, so horrible when he's out there.

UCGRAD4X
01-06-2018, 02:19 PM
Some of you know who I am, I used to post all the time but I thought my voice was getting old, new perspective is always good to get. Today I have to get my two cents in. Not to be a negative Nancy but I’m not surprised at all by today’s play. I wish I could put my finger on it but too often X goes on the road and looks mentally weak. I know it’s tough to play on the road but if this team is any good you have to beat teams like Providence. Ten first half turnovers is unacceptable I dont blame Chris the players have to understand what is at stake. If they think they can turn it on and off they are sadly mistaken. I like many are wondering if Scruggs will be a bust. I think we have a tendency to play too fast on the road. My biggest problem is this team not valuing each possession. I know we will bounce back too much talent not to, but, I think we are kidding ourselves if we think a long tourney run will happen this year.
I’ll continue to pull for those guys no matter what,but, today really disappointing. Thanks for letting me vent.

Can't argue with anything here.

X Factor
01-06-2018, 02:20 PM
Time to start Goodin, JP, Tre, Kanter, and Tyrique

Xavier
01-06-2018, 02:20 PM
Kaiser 6'8 Gates doesn't do anything but stand around the 3 or line.

Trevon has been awful for a while.

Freshman haven't progressed since the beginning of the year.

Our defense is a mess.

We had 35(?) points from bigs and you want Gates going down low? Marshal has definitely looked better. Past three games tre has averaged 20 a game. Wouldn’t say that’s awful..

Defense stinks though.

Xupergirl
01-06-2018, 02:20 PM
They have been playing terribly since Cincinnati. They haven’t recognize it because they’ve been winning. Losing today will make them realize they need to step it up and play like a top 5 team. Well after today, a top 10 team.

UCGRAD4X
01-06-2018, 02:21 PM
Trevon's shoulder?

American X
01-06-2018, 02:21 PM
Xavier just refused to win this game.

Did they not see the tall guys in white jerseys directly in front of them?

X Factor
01-06-2018, 02:21 PM
Our free throw shooting, their free throw shooting, turnovers, and bad defense were the keys to this game. Making a big deal about Bluiett getting shut out in the second half would take away from how they were feeding the beast in Kanter for most of the half. The problem with Kanter is that he scores, but our defense is so, so horrible when he's out there.

Our defense is pretty bad when he's on the bench.

Xavier
01-06-2018, 02:21 PM
They have been playing terribly since Cincinnati. They haven’t recognize it because they’ve been winning. Losing today will make them realize they need to step it up and play like a top 5 team. Well after today, a top 10 team.

They will fall out of top 10. My guess is 12

X Factor
01-06-2018, 02:21 PM
Trevon's shoulder?

No.

UCGRAD4X
01-06-2018, 02:22 PM
Trevon's shoulder?

Hate to start an ugly rumor - just mentioned by post game - with huge hedging.

Xupergirl
01-06-2018, 02:22 PM
They deserve it

SkyWalker
01-06-2018, 02:24 PM
Time to start Goodin, JP, Tre, Kanter, and Tyrique

I tend to agree with this. Gates needs to refocus.

Section 200
01-06-2018, 02:24 PM
We were due for a loss. Glad it wasn't DePaul.

GreatWhiteNorth
01-06-2018, 02:24 PM
We should not be too surprised to lose to any BE team on the road this year. X did not play particularly terrible today, but definitely not good. I do not know what went wrong with our FT and 3pt shooting. We seemed to have lost confidence.

UCGRAD4X
01-06-2018, 02:24 PM
Front court did show up in the 2nd half after being blocked in the 1st - but that was all in 2nd. Not a good recipe for winning. Not on the road in league play.

Lloyd Braun
01-06-2018, 02:25 PM
Well they rebounded the ball at a nice rate and didn’t give up second chance points. Still lots of positives to come out of the game. Hard to make stops with Tre, JP and Kanter in at the same time.

UCGRAD4X
01-06-2018, 02:26 PM
I tend to agree with this. Gates needs to refocus.

If today is any indication - but does Gates defense out weigh the difference in offense?

AviatorX
01-06-2018, 02:26 PM
I know all message boards look like this after a loss, but I really think X will settle in and be fine. Realistically, they are probably going to lose @ Nova Wednesday. I'm confident that after that they'll bounce back strong and likely end up a power seed in March. Until they appear to be off that course, I'm not going to worry too much. We know X has the horses - let's hope they fit together at the right time.

No one looks particularly great in college basketball this year. MSU is the one "elite" team without a WTF loss and the Big 10 is reallllllllly bad.

X Factor
01-06-2018, 02:26 PM
Well they rebounded the ball at a nice rate and didn’t give up second chance points. Still lots of positives to come out of the game. Hard to make stops with Tre, JP and Kanter in at the same time.

I fail to see lots of positives.

GoMuskies
01-06-2018, 02:29 PM
I fail to see lots of positives.

Kanter dominated on O, Tyrique was a man among boys, JP was studly with his passing, Q hit two 3s, and Scruggs didn't turn it over EVERY time he touched the ball (just felt like it).

xavierj
01-06-2018, 02:31 PM
We should not be too surprised to lose to any BE team on the road this year. X did not play particularly terrible today, but definitely not good. I do not know what went wrong with our FT and 3pt shooting. We seemed to have lost confidence.

I thought they played bad. 81!pts allowed, 64% from line, 27% from 3, had the ball stolen 11 times, 15 turnovers and had shot blocked 9 times. Now Providence is a bad FT shooting team and went 19-20. Maybe providence played above heir head. They will go .500 in the league.

Lloyd Braun
01-06-2018, 02:31 PM
I fail to see lots of positives.

I agree, the majority of your posts are negative.

X Factor
01-06-2018, 02:32 PM
I know all message boards look like this after a loss, but I really think X will settle in and be fine. Realistically, they are probably going to lose @ Nova Wednesday. I'm confident that after that they'll bounce back strong and likely end up a power seed in March. Until they appear to be off that course, I'm not going to worry too much. We know X has the horses - let's hope they fit together at the right time.

No one looks particularly great in college basketball this year. MSU is the one "elite" team without a WTF loss and the Big 10 is reallllllllly bad.

X hasn't played well in a while though. Down 20 points to ETSU. Down 16 points DePaul. Both at home. Struggled with a bad UNI team.

Defense is porous. KenPom does not lie.

paulxu
01-06-2018, 02:32 PM
There's a racetrack expression for what we just witnessed: "Not Today."

Vegas has one too: "Thanks for playing."

X Factor
01-06-2018, 02:33 PM
Kanter dominated on O, Tyrique was a man among boys, JP was studly with his passing, Q hit two 3s, and Scruggs didn't turn it over EVERY time he touched the ball (just felt like it).

That was good strategy by PC. Let Kanter go off because Tre and JP didn't do anything in the 2nd half.

Yes, the two threes by Goodin was a positive.

X Factor
01-06-2018, 02:34 PM
I agree, the majority of your posts are negative.

I'm sure Mack was talking about all the "positives" in the locker room after the game.

AviatorX
01-06-2018, 02:36 PM
X hasn't played well in a while though. Down 20 points to ETSU. Down 16 points DePaul. Both at home. Struggled with a bad UNI team.

Defense is porous. KenPom does not lie.

Definitely don't disagree with you. I guess I'm just taking the long view on this season because I know this group is capable of having it together at the right time and they have a ton of tournament experience. Doesn't mean it has to come together though.

XU3232
01-06-2018, 02:41 PM
JP, Tre, and Kaiser were all pretty terrible. Gates: 23 min- 0 points and 1 rebound.

Now having to go to Nova is going to get worse before it gets better.

Next 2 games at home after Nova are going to be very important... still in good shape if we can get those.

THRILLHOUSE
01-06-2018, 02:45 PM
Tre started out well, but I don't think he did anything after taking that foul on his bad shoulder going to the rim. (If I remember correctly he made the shot but missed the and-1 free throw)

Hopefully his shoulder isn't more injured than we are led to believe.

Frambo
01-06-2018, 02:49 PM
JP, Tre, and Kaiser were all pretty terrible. Gates: 23 min- 0 points and 1 rebound.

time to start Kanter at the 4......see how Gates responds from the bench

Muskeagle
01-06-2018, 02:50 PM
crack....crack!!....crack!!!....crack!!!

The sound of the ankles breaking jumping off the bandwagon. Got negative in a hurry. I agree that X hasn't been firing on all cylinders lately and Tre had a terrible game. But wow...just wow. Marshall and Scruggs will be very good players at X. They will likely be 4 year players and when all is said and done you'll be happy to have them here. Not a good day, but it happens especially on the road. I don't mind the criticism of today's play--hell, they stunk it up in many ways, but I do find it disappointing to read our fans calling our players "trash." I think that is trash.

Also, the "rankings" of our freshmen were made when it was a 5 kid class including Ridder and Jones. Even so, Marshall will be special. Scruggs will be very good. The jury is out on Harden, but my guess is he will be solid if he stays in the system.

3.4 pts, 39% from floor, 30% from 3....freshman year BJ Raymond
1.9 pts, 34%, 29%, .8 TO, .8 assists....freshman Dee Davis

Marshall and Scruggs have been getting valuable time. They have ups and downs but are improving. Easier to hit the ground running when playing the wing, but the game will slow down for Scruggs.

xavierj
01-06-2018, 02:50 PM
They will fall out of top 10. My guess is 12

Seriously? Who will jump them where they fall 7 spots? Arizona getting killed by Colorado. Arizona state lost again, Kansas lost again, Texas A&M lost and either Oklahoma or West Virginia will lose. They will fall 3 spots.

Muskeagle
01-06-2018, 02:52 PM
Also...lot of "JP didn't play well," I disagree. He didn't score a lot, but he was making great decisions in the second half when Jones and Kanter were killing it low. A lot of those plays went through him.

Lloyd Braun
01-06-2018, 02:53 PM
Can’t start Kanter, we need Kaiser’s D. Offense is not a problem for this team.

XU3232
01-06-2018, 02:55 PM
time to start Kanter at the 4......see how Gates responds from the bench

I wouldn’t mind that at all. Started the year off great but has been extremely inconsistent lately.

bjf123
01-06-2018, 03:02 PM
Xavier just refused to win this game.

Did they not see the tall guys in white jerseys directly in front of them?

Clearly, they did not!


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Frambo
01-06-2018, 03:15 PM
Can’t start Kanter, we need Kaiser’s D. Offense is not a problem for this team.

We would be harder to guard and Kaiser needs a shakeup to get him playing to his potential. This game was a speed bump and we'll be ok.....but Chris needs to get gates Marshall and Scruggs playing better, which he will.

phriar10
01-06-2018, 03:19 PM
Providence lost at home to Marquette this year. Lost to terrible UMASS team. This one is going to hurt.

In fairness we did not have our leading scorer for marquette . Bullock was sick with the flu. Mass was a terrible loss no doubt.

AviatorX
01-06-2018, 03:21 PM
Seriously? Who will jump them where they fall 7 spots? Arizona getting killed by Colorado. Arizona state lost again, Kansas lost again, Texas A&M lost and either Oklahoma or West Virginia will lose. They will fall 3 spots.

Exactly. I think just as many forget that all of Xavier's opponents also feature highly recruited D1 basketball players that sometimes play better than Xavier's players, all other teams also lose some games, at least since 1976.

UCGRAD4X
01-06-2018, 03:28 PM
Tre started out well, but I don't think he did anything after taking that foul on his bad shoulder going to the rim. (If I remember correctly he made the shot but missed the and-1 free throw)

Hopefully his shoulder isn't more injured than we are led to believe.

I think I know what you mean here - but a strange thing to wish???


crack....crack!!....crack!!!....crack!!!

The sound of the ankles breaking jumping off the bandwagon. Got negative in a hurry. I agree that X hasn't been firing on all cylinders lately and Tre had a terrible game. But wow...just wow. Marshall and Scruggs will be very good players at X. They will likely be 4 year players and when all is said and done you'll be happy to have them here. Not a good day, but it happens especially on the road. I don't mind the criticism of today's play--hell, they stunk it up in many ways, but I do find it disappointing to read our fans calling our players "trash." I think that is trash.

Also, the "rankings" of our freshmen were made when it was a 5 kid class including Ridder and Jones. Even so, Marshall will be special. Scruggs will be very good. The jury is out on Harden, but my guess is he will be solid if he stays in the system.

3.4 pts, 39% from floor, 30% from 3....freshman year BJ Raymond
1.9 pts, 34%, 29%, .8 TO, .8 assists....freshman Dee Davis

Marshall and Scruggs have been getting valuable time. They have ups and downs but are improving. Easier to hit the ground running when playing the wing, but the game will slow down for Scruggs.

How many here have called them trash? They should be called out instead of making a blanket statement about 'the fans'. I think that is trash.

UCGRAD4X
01-06-2018, 03:31 PM
Exactly. I think just as many forget that all of Xavier's opponents also feature highly recruited D1 basketball players that sometimes play better than Xavier's players, all other teams also lose some games, at least since 1976.

You are right. We need to be ready to expect that every team is capable of beating us unless we bring our A game. There are good players on every team in the Big East that will go off on us unless we play with some intensity and desire from the jump.

X-band '01
01-06-2018, 03:44 PM
I just had a bad feeling towards the end of the first half where Providence went 1-for-10, yet Xavier couldn't get the game any closer than 5. Providence hits a back-breaking 3 at the end of the half to push it to an 8-point lead.

It wasn't lack of effort for losing this game - Xavier dominated the glass and 2nd chance points (namely Kanter and Jones). You just can't commit extra turnovers that become points in transition, nor can you leave points at the FT line (especially the 1-and-1s).

Sometimes you just tip your hat - Providence's only pathway to winning this one was to hit from outside as well as from midrange and the foul line. They won decisively on all 3 of those counts today.

stammina0721
01-06-2018, 04:10 PM
A lot of Xavier problems the last 8 games stem from a change in play. The season started and this team was playing more team ball. Making the extra pass and looking to set others up. The last 8 games this has changed dramatically. There seems to be guys looking to pad individual stats. I can't tell you how many turnovers stem from a guy trying to do some miracle drive through three guys or some guy jacking up a prayer 3 that has zero shot of going in and may as well count as a turnover. Get back to team ball and we will see this team click again. Stay on this course and its a 10-6 conference season and out in the 2nd round

Muskeagle
01-06-2018, 04:11 PM
I think I know what you mean here - but a strange thing to wish???



How many here have called them trash? They should be called out instead of making a blanket statement about 'the fans'. I think that is trash.

These are quotes from this thread:

Scruggs stinks (hell, you even replied to that one)

Scruggs is garbage

Scruggs hasn't had any ups all season.

There were some other borderline "our freshman suck" type lines and some frustrated Bluiett quotes about how overrated he is and how awful our team is. I know fans rant...but we are still talking about our own. I think it reflects poorly on us. Whatever, though, it's a fan board. It ain't gonna stop because I don't like it...I was just trying to point out that you these kids go hard, give a lot, put a lot on the line, and to have their own fans calling them garbage....well that just sucks. My take. You don't have to agree.

Oh...and just re-read your calling me out for my "blanket statement." No blanket statement was made. The exact quote was "I do find it disappointing to read our fans calling our players 'trash.'" The statement says "our fans calling players "trash"--which is directed to the fans WHO called them trash. It didn't say all our fans are calling them trash...i hate you all. We all read the thread. Most of the garbage talk is between pages 3-9. Go look it up. YOU responded to one of the people and quoted it....so whatever.

bleedXblue
01-06-2018, 04:23 PM
I think there are some pretty obvious trends developing for this team over the last several games.

1. Getting beat and behind in a lot of games in the 1st half. Mainly due to lazy ball handling, turnovers and porous D.
2. Tre does not seem right and has played like it the last several games. Is his shoulder hurting him more than we think?
3. Gates has not been himself since the concussion. We need him and his 3 pt shooting.
4. Not playing good team ball. Too much individual play and selfish shooting instead of running our offense and getting the best shot.

Muskeagle
01-06-2018, 04:26 PM
I think there are some pretty obvious trends developing for this team over the last several games.

1. Getting beat and behind in a lot of games in the 1st half. Mainly due to lazy ball handling, turnovers and porous D.
2. Tre does not seem right and has played like it the last several games. Is his shoulder hurting him more than we think?
3. Gates has not been himself since the concussion. We need him and his 3 pt shooting.
4. Not playing good team ball. Too much individual play and selfish shooting instead of running our offense and getting the best shot.

Good observations. Big men are getting a lot of one on one defense and generally making plays, but not getting a ton of open 3 pt. looks. Bluiett didn't have an open look all second half and couldn't create one either. None came to him out of the offense. Offense needs to run better to get looks for Gates, JP and Bluiett.

X Factor
01-06-2018, 04:40 PM
Second game in a row I believe Tre has had a jumper blocked.

I know road games are tough but I think X could put themselves in a lot better position without the stupid, careless turnovers.

Xavier
01-06-2018, 05:09 PM
Seriously? Who will jump them where they fall 7 spots? Arizona getting killed by Colorado. Arizona state lost again, Kansas lost again, Texas A&M lost and either Oklahoma or West Virginia will lose. They will fall 3 spots.

Fair point. I think with how Xavier has been playing voters haven’t liked voting them so high but they kept winning and the second they lost it would be a big drop.

bleedXblue
01-06-2018, 05:26 PM
Good observations. Big men are getting a lot of one on one defense and generally making plays, but not getting a ton of open 3 pt. looks. Bluiett didn't have an open look all second half and couldn't create one either. None came to him out of the offense. Offense needs to run better to get looks for Gates, JP and Bluiett.

They are face guarding Tre 25 feet from the basket knowing he cant blow by them. Gotta get some better flow of the offense going and free him up more. Not like this is a new thing.

Lloyd Braun
01-06-2018, 05:36 PM
We would be harder to guard and Kaiser needs a shakeup to get him playing to his potential. This game was a speed bump and we'll be ok.....but Chris needs to get gates Marshall and Scruggs playing better, which he will.

We will not be able to defend anyone without Gatesnin the starting lineup. Gates was on bullock for the majority of the time he was in. When he was out Tre was on him and got burned from what I saw. Matchups are a big thing and our offense is not the issue. Defense is porous.

THRILLHOUSE
01-06-2018, 06:06 PM
I think I know what you mean here - but a strange thing to wish???





I was just saying we know Tre's shoulder isn't 100% and X hasn't said anything to make it seem serious, so hopefully his bad game today was just a result of good Friar defense and not something more going on with Tre health wise.

xu koop scoop
01-06-2018, 06:43 PM
I thought they played bad. 81!pts allowed, 64% from line, 27% from 3, had the ball stolen 11 times, 15 turnovers and had shot blocked 9 times. Now Providence is a bad FT shooting team and went 19-20. Maybe providence played above heir head. They will go .500 in the league.

Played OK. Some Really Awesome Positives: +16 rebounding, 22 2nd chance pts for X, ZERO for P. Q hits 2 3pt shots. Jones 4-4 on FT.

bjf123
01-06-2018, 06:45 PM
Played OK. Some Really Awesome Positives: +16 rebounding, 22 2nd chance pts for X, ZERO for P. Q hits 2 3pt shots. Jones 4-4 on FT.

You’d expect to win with stats like that.


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X Factor
01-06-2018, 06:58 PM
You’d expect to win with stats like that.


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Bad defense. The 1-3-1 gives up way too many corner threes. Providence is a good 3pt shooting team.

ArizonaXUGrad
01-06-2018, 06:59 PM
Pump the brakes people, you don’t want to peak now you want to peak in March.
How many of you last year predicted an elite 8 run. This team absolutely has that ceiling again and further. They like a lot of teams have work to get there.


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Grizzx12
01-06-2018, 07:19 PM
Pump the brakes people, you don’t want to peak now you want to peak in March.
How many of you last year predicted an elite 8 run. This team absolutely has that ceiling again and further. They like a lot of teams have work to get there.


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Agree 100%!! Today was frustrating and ruined my afternoon but it was bound to happen with how we've been playing lately and we finally dug a hole that we couldn't get out of. Hopefully this will be the wake up call we need to clean up the infuriating constant turnovers, defensive lapses, and cold streaks.

The talent and depth on this team is incredible and there isn't anyone in the country we can't beat by 10+ points if we play a complete game but forcing shots in traffic, cute passes in the paint, and stretches of weak effort will ruin this season quickly. So there were positives and hopefully this will wake everyone up and we can get that elusive W in Philly. I think we will!!

xukeith
01-06-2018, 07:47 PM
What happened to Sean M.??

Match up issues?

whopper
01-06-2018, 08:14 PM
I was at game as i live in Conn and it was very cold in gym. I think O'Mara had matchup issues..the game before he played a lot more than Kanter and both are mature. I think Scruggs turnovers were due to the fact that PC sensed he would not shoot, the way we hit the offensive boards shots would be preferable. Gates was open a few times for transition 3's but JP pushed it to the middle with not great results. Blueitt is either hurt or well scouted..they seemed to face guard him. Watching Villanova v Marquette now and V looks good..

bleedXblue
01-06-2018, 11:10 PM
Bad defense. The 1-3-1 gives up way too many corner threes. Providence is a good 3pt shooting team.

You are close to intolerable sometimes........ the 1-3-1 has been VERY effective at times this year

Sometimes you just fuc*(ing lose

Bandwagon humper you are

X Factor
01-06-2018, 11:16 PM
You are close to intolerable sometimes........ the 1-3-1 has been VERY effective at times this year

Sometimes you just fuc*(ing lose

Bandwagon humper you are

Bandwagon? Lol. Overreact after a loss? Yeah, probably.

I was around on the old Roundtable. I always thought Moose was overly negative and then Mr. Neutral on Musketeer Madness.

I guess the older I get, the more negative I get. Maybe because I want X to finally get to a FF so bad.

I'm a Browns fan too. No bandwagons for the teams I cheer for.

GoMuskies
01-06-2018, 11:18 PM
You are close to intolerable sometimes........ the 1-3-1 has been VERY effective at times this year

Sometimes you just fuc*(ing lose

Bandwagon humper you are

X Factor can be overly negative, but it really felt like Providence scored 100% of the time against the zone today.