Sean Miller Article

[Cincypunk.org]

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/21827775/arizona-went-title-contender-fbi-scandal-title-contender-again-uncertainty-looms

Man, screw Sean Miller.

"If you'd asked me how often I think about [the Final Four] ... every 15 minutes," Miller said then. "And I'm not gonna run from that. That's why I left Xavier nine years ago. That's why you come to a place like Arizona."

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[Cincypunk.org]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRJ20B-XJuA

[gladdenguy]

I'm glad he left. We have a better coach now.

[markchal]

Now that we've seen the benefits of being in the Big East, I can certainly understand more wanting to leave an A10 school for a much bigger program in a bigger conference. I understand why people were mad when Thad left, because it was a little underhanded, but I have no problem with Sean and think he played a much bigger role in our program's success than his predecessor.

[UCGRAD4X]

How can he still be spewing that crap after getting out-coached by Mack?

What a twat!

I'm sure at the time he really believed that - bad enough and he deserved the ridicule he has received here at Buick Central. But Dude, dial it down a bit till you actually beat Xavier or advance in the tournament past them....and without having to pay your players!

Better yet, just shut up about it already!

[GIMMFD]

I'm glad he left. We have a better coach now.

This x10000. Let him talk, his guy was the one gobbled up in the money scam allegations, while we've been clean. With all the talent he has, it's a damn shame he hasn't reached a Final 4 yet, plus those 3 games in a row they lost? Mack coached circles around him in the Elite 8, and anybody with a pair of eyes could have seen that.

[xufan2020]

I’m sure he meant in the context of Xavier being in the A10 at the time. I’m one of Miller’s biggest apologists because I think what he did for Xavier was vital. He and Mack are friends and I wish him success... but still want to get to the final four/win national championship before him.

[bleedXblue]

Asshole. What a dick. We just beat you and are ranked in the Top 10.

STFU.

He does know we helped him get where he is? Does he realize how insulting this is?

[GoMuskies]

I hope Sean Miller never makes it to the Final Four and Amy divorces him for taking her out to that hellhole.

OK, I don't really hope for the second part, but definitely the first part. Even AFTER we've made it, I hope he still doesn't make it. Unless Arizona fires him and he decides to become an assistant to Mack at Xavier.

[American X]

It is a message board, so rant away, but I think we made our peace with all things Sean Miller after the Elite Eight game. He was total class after that game.

If you want to have animosity toward him, go for it, but at this point I do not think it is warranted. Eight years later, our program is in a better place and with a better coach. Sean Miller was a pillar in getting Xavier here and should be given his due.

[GoMuskies]

should be given his due.

A beat-up Lexus?

[bleedXblue]

It is a message board, so rant away, but I think we made our peace with all things Sean Miller after the Elite Eight game. He was total class after that game.

If you want to have animosity toward him, go for it, but at this point I do not think it is warranted. Eight years later, our program is in a better place and with a better coach. Sean Miller was a pillar in getting Xavier here and should be given his due.

He should know better....no excuses. I give him no pass at all for this idiotic comment.

[UCGRAD4X]

He should know better....no excuses. I give him no pass at all for this idiotic comment.

Agreed. I can almost dismiss the past discretion (A10 and all - but the comment has definitely not born any fruit for him or Arizona - on the contrary - so, HA!), and I agree he was a class act after the beatdown, but why revisit this after all that?

Why?

[xumuskies08]

Saying you wanted to leave for a bigger conference and more money? Perfectly fine. That’s your prerogative.

Saying you wanted to leave because you didn’t think that program could get to the Final 4, and specifically saying just months after that program beat you in the tournament? Gross.


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[markchal]

Isn't this a pretty small part of a bigger Arizona story? It's not like he did some huge interview trashing us. Also, if we were in the BE, would he have left? Maybe still, maybe not. But the Xavier that beat him last year is a much stronger program than the one he left.

[Lloyd Braun]

I have no beef with Sean leaving. Where do you think he has a better chance to reach the FF? I love X but it’s a no-brainer. Blue chip 5-Star guys give you a better chance to make a FF. He would not be getting those guys at X and that’s the reality.

[drudy23]

Basically, he was saying "I'm going to take the easier route"...in reality, I'm not so sure it's any easier for a program like AZ to get there than it is for Xavier. I'm not saying Xavier is the better job, but the difference in programs isn't nearly as drastic anymore.

Or he could have said "I want more money". Fine.

[UCGRAD4X]

I have no beef with Sean leaving. Where do you think he has a better chance to reach the FF? I love X but it’s a no-brainer. Blue chip 5-Star guys give you a better chance to make a FF. He would not be getting those guys at X and that’s the reality.

First, I don't think that is necessarily true, particularly if those guys don't stick around, effect limited cohesiveness and 'team chemistry' (particularly with the circumstances under which they were recruited/signed). A slight advantage, even more, under the right circumstances, probably true.

The point is, that has not been the result, up to this point, and not likely to be with the turmoil, sanctions and defections, and the 'Power of X' right now. Down the road....we shall see.

And I don't have much of a beef with him saying it back when he left (mostly it just hurt my feelings - boo-hoo :sad:)

The other point is, he should just STFU about it.

That is all.

[Xavier]

At the time, Arizona certainly had an easier route than Xavier. (He has been to 3 elite 8's with them so far). That is obvious. Had X been in the Big East, I don't think Sean would have left. As for Mack vs Miller? I think they are about the same.

[GIMMFD]

At the time, Arizona certainly had an easier route than Xavier. (He has been to 3 elite 8's with them so far). That is obvious. Had X been in the Big East, I don't think Sean would have left. As for Mack vs Miller? I think they are about the same.

Really?? I think Mack is a much better in game coach, over the last couple season at least. I mean, he coached a beauty vs UC, punishing them in the beginning for that lead, coached a great game against Baylor, out coached Miller in the Elite 8, and probably has the best in-bounds plays in the country. Don't get me wrong, I don't think Miller is bad, I think he should be utilizing his talent better, I don't see how out of any of those recruiting classes he hasn't found a way to make a Final 4, but I just think we have the better coach personally.

[Cheesehead]

I don't really care about Sean Miller anymore. I have moved on.

Zip'em up

[UCGRAD4X]

I don't really care about Sean Miller anymore. I have moved on.

Zip'em up

And I think he should too.

[bleedXblue]

And I think he should too.

9 years later.....unreal that he's that f'ing stupid

[UCGRAD4X]

9 years later.....unreal that he's that f'ing stupid

f'ing stupid and just plain wrong

[throwbackmuskie]

He had to use a cheater and still can't get to the final four.

[Xavier]

Really?? I think Mack is a much better in game coach, over the last couple season at least. I mean, he coached a beauty vs UC, punishing them in the beginning for that lead, coached a great game against Baylor, out coached Miller in the Elite 8, and probably has the best in-bounds plays in the country. Don't get me wrong, I don't think Miller is bad, I think he should be utilizing his talent better, I don't see how out of any of those recruiting classes he hasn't found a way to make a Final 4, but I just think we have the better coach personally.

That’s fair. And you’re probably right. I think Miller is a great defensive coach and Mack is unreal at developing plays on offense. And Mack has shown he has been great at developing game plans. Injury issues aside, The team struggled a lot last year. Certainly had work to do late in the season to make the tournament. Miller has put together great seasons and top seeds at Arizona. I think they are pretty close if there was a top 25 coach list with both in the top 15 for sure.

[IM4X]

"That's why I left Xavier nine years ago. That's why you come to a place like Arizona."

How's that working out for you Sean. It's worked out pretty- pretty good for X.

Surprised he wasn't reminded that X is currently ranked above his Arizona team.

[Nigel Tufnel]

Man...I just don't get the outrage. This doesn't even register to me. But....to those of you upset about this...fair enough.

[bleedXblue]

Man...I just don't get the outrage. This doesn't even register to me. But....to those of you upset about this...fair enough.

Outrage? No

befuddlement? disrespect? yes, no one likes to be disrespected

We just sent him home and are a top 10 team

[Caf]

We can all acknowledge that at Xavier in the A10 his odds of getting to a Final Four were lower than at Arizona right? It took a lot of luck plus recruiting classes lining up and panning out just right to get a real shot. He now has the talent to make it pretty much every year. His failure to do so is on him though.

You can't say enough about what a difference being in a power conference makes. We are a prime example of it. It's hard to remember but not long ago it used to be exciting to just be ranked.

[Nigel Tufnel]

Outrage? No

befuddlement? disrespect? yes, no one likes to be disrespected

We just sent him home and are a top 10 team

Fair enough...guess I can't feel disrespected if I'm indifferent about a comment made about a decision made 9 years ago.

And I don't think Miller's intent was to disrespect X.

Personally, I guess I just don't care. To each his own.

[Masterofreality]

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/21827775/arizona-went-title-contender-fbi-scandal-title-contender-again-uncertainty-looms

Man, screw Sean Miller.

"If you'd asked me how often I think about [the Final Four] ... every 15 minutes," Miller said then. "And I'm not gonna run from that. That's why I left Xavier nine years ago. That's why you come to a place like Arizona."

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He can't run from the FBI, or his garbage out of bounds plays either.

[Backyard Champ]

I don't get the anger over a comment we all would say is accurate. It's easier to get to the final four at a program like Arizona than what he had here at Xavier. People can't possibly disagree with that assesment.

I'll never understand the part of our fan base who feel like we are constantly being disrespected.

[THRILLHOUSE]

https://m.popkey.co/b12fb4/e059o.gif

[Masterofreality]

I hope Sean Miller never makes it to the Final Four and Amy divorces him for taking her out to that hellhole.

OK, I don't really hope for the second part, but definitely the first part. Even AFTER we've made it, I hope he still doesn't make it. Unless Arizona fires him and he decides to become an assistant to Mack at Xavier.

Public reps

[Masterofreality]

I don't get the anger over a comment we all would say is accurate. It's easier to get to the final four at a program like Arizona than what he had here at Xavier. People can't possibly disagree with that assesment.

I'll never understand the part of our fan base who feel like we are constantly being disrespected.

Guy just left us in the dust for...desert dust.
His wife was crying because she didn't want to leave, but he did anyway.
We have a better coach now, and in a better league.
Screw him.

[Masterofreality]

I have no beef with Sean leaving. Where do you think he has a better chance to reach the FF? I love X but it’s a no-brainer. Blue chip 5-Star guys give you a better chance to make a FF. He would not be getting those guys at X and that’s the reality.

Yeah. Blue Chip 5 star guys who were paid to go to that hell.
And, yeah, if Book was shelling out caish to a kid, he damn well would be coming to Xavier, but Thank Gawd, we don't do that.

#APayersProgram

[xu82]

I love where we are right now and I love our coach. Things worked out for the best. No whining for me. He made his bed.... I was glad to see him show some class last March.

[bleedXblue]

I don't get the anger over a comment we all would say is accurate. It's easier to get to the final four at a program like Arizona than what he had here at Xavier. People can't possibly disagree with that assesment.

I'll never understand the part of our fan base who feel like we are constantly being disrespected.

Constantly disrespected? I don't see it here on this board.......from time to time things come up......

I can disagree with Miller trying make that point in 2017, 9 years after he left Xavier. The context is one that very few would relate to the past and most would read as a comment pertaining to the "now".

I bet 80% of college basketball fans today couldn't tell you the league we were in prior to the Big East.

Step away from being a Xavier fan and read that article as a fan of any other program.

I have no issue with Sean, the fact he left and am very happy with Coach Mack.

I think Miller needs to start coming up with some newer material and excuses why he cant get to Final 4.

[XUBison]

Anyone else think Sean’s comments are funny? I believe most agree Sean genuinely didn’t want to leave X, and although there are obviously plenty of factors that make UA especially attractive, maybe UA’s supposedly greater F4 likelihood really was the driving force behind his decision to leave X. Now he watches X becoming a legitimate perennial F4 contender, while he has become known as the coach who can’t deliver, and is even under major scrutiny for a crazy-ass, FBI-serious recruiting scandal. Have you ever heard of someone experiencing buyer’s remorse 9 years after buying their Lexus? Hilarious!

[xu82]

I would say 99% of his leaving came down to money. I can’t fully blame him, but be careful with how you explain it going forward.

[xudash]

I would say 99% of his leaving came down to money. I can’t fully blame him, but be careful with how you explain it going forward.

Exactly. The "Lexus/Buick" thing was his undoing with many Xavier fans.

I didn't appreciate that, but I like that he contributed to Xavier's legacy. I remember the picture of Chris, Sister Rose and Sean talking together before the game in which they beat us. Good friends, catching up.

We were stuck in the A10. He did leave for the money and for the "power" conference.

We made out beyond fine. And we're a very different program now.

The guy laid some of the bricks that brought us to our present place, then he left, making a stupid comment while going out the door.

[xu82]

Exactly. The "Lexus/Buick" thing was his undoing with many Xavier fans.

I didn't appreciate that, but I like that he contributed to Xavier's legacy. I remember the picture of Chris, Sister Rose and Sean talking together before the game in which they beat us. Good friends, catching up.

We were stuck in the A10. He did leave for the money and for the "power" conference.

We made out beyond fine. And we're a very different program now.

The guy laid some of the bricks that brought us to our present place, then he left, making a stupid comment while going out the door.

I’m grateful, with no regrets. We are moving forward and the future is bright.