Other Big East Games of Note 2017-2018

[XUFan09]

The fact that St. Johns just beat Dook helps. People underrated Nova from time to time. The public tends to overvalue Dook.Yeah, that's good for Nova but bad for us. The Duke loss gave Xavier some separation in competition for seeding, but now it doesn't look as bad.

"Oh, SJU was just playing well above their level st that time."

It's minor but the margins between the top few teams on the S-curve tend to be small.

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[ballyhoohoo]

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[GoMuskies]

St. Johns is now KenPom #75.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Let’s not go crazy here... this loss might cost a Nova a 1 seed as their margin of error is smaller. Good for us but I doubt anyone is looking at the SJ win as “quality”.

Top 100. I think they are mid 80's in RPI right now but that was before this win. Not a fantastic win but a top 75 win on road is probably tier 2 win no?

[D-West & PO-Z]

If Xavier wins Saturday they should move to #3 with Purdue and Michigan State playing Saturday.

I'm not sure we jump Nova. They have one less loss and we were blown out by them. Maybe but I wouldnt be surprised if we dont.

[D-West & PO-Z]

St. Johns is now KenPom #75.

Didnt see this before I posted about RPI, good stuff.

[GoMuskies]

St. Johns could win out, no? 7-11 good enough for an at-large? Under these circumstances, I'm thinking yes.

[D-West & PO-Z]

St. Johns could win out, no? 7-11 good enough for an at-large? Under these circumstances, I'm thinking yes.

I think they would need a pretty deep BE run too to have a chance. Havent looked who they have left on schedule thought.

[GoMuskies]

Marquette twice, DePaul, Seton Hall and Butler at home and @ Provi to finish. Why not?

[D-West & PO-Z]

Marquette twice, DePaul, Seton Hall and Butler at home and @ Provi to finish. Why not?

The 7-11 is a pretty big eye sore for selection committee but who knows. There probably isnt another team in the country with a pair of wins as good as St. Johns. Still think they'd have to win 3 in Big East tourney on top of it.

[GoMuskies]

Their RPI is already 69. With six more wins...man, I think they'd be awfully tough to leave out with even one Big East Tournament win.

Xavier is #2 in the RPI now.

[paulxu]

Duke and Nova have one Group 2 loss. Strange days.

[American X]

Marquette to Big East:

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[muskiefan82]

So, Xavier is currently in 1st place, Creighton is in 3rd, and Butler is in 5th. I'm thinking the Big East made excellent choices on additions to the Big East a few years ago. Well done, Big East, and thank you.

[smileyy]

I'm not sure we jump Nova. They have one less loss and we were blown out by them. Maybe but I wouldnt be surprised if we dont.

Nova is putting up historic efficiency margins. From a strict quality-of-wins point-of-view, Nova > Xavier (as much as I hate to say that)

[xudash]

So, Xavier is currently in 1st place, Creighton is in 3rd, and Butler is in 5th. I'm thinking the Big East made excellent choices on additions to the Big East a few years ago. Well done, Big East, and thank you.

Now isn't that interesting.

I'd say they got it right.

[Lloyd Braun]

Today’s games should be entertaining

Butler @ Villanova (-10) 12:00; Fox
Marquette @ St. John’s (Pk) 12:00
Xavier @ Creighton (-1.5) 2:30; Fox
Seton Hall @ Georgetown (+5) 4:00; CBSSN
DePaul @ Providence (-9) 4:00

[Xuperman]

Sweep for the home teams? Nah, one team will get a roadkill....:yahoo:

[bleedXblue]

Today’s games should be entertaining

Butler @ Villanova (-10) 12:00; Fox
Marquette @ St. John’s (Pk) 12:00
Xavier @ Creighton (-1.5) 2:30; Fox
Seton Hall @ Georgetown (+5) 4:00; CBSSN
DePaul @ Providence (-9) 4:00

Nova is very thin right now without Paschal. Brunson looked very tired vs St Johns. They are playing a bunch of frosh in addition to Spellman (who's not really a frosh). Should be an interesting game.

[X-band '01]

Marquette really needs to capitalize on the momentum they got winning at Seton Hall. They have the unenviable task of playing the Johnnies twice in the next 2 weeks.

[GoMuskies]

I'm still Team St. Johns is Winning Out

[bjf123]

I’m so glad we don’t play St. John’s again and don’t want to see them in the BE tournament.


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[XUFan09]

I’m so glad we don’t play St. John’s again and don’t want to see them in the BE tournament.


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[GoMuskies]

Agree that there are matchup issues, but St. Johns is a lot more than a team with nothing to lose. That's a good team riding a star who is on fire.

[GoMuskies]

St. Johns, Georgetown and DePaul have decided to begin an assault on the Big East's at-large hopes (and seeding).

[Grizzx12]

What in the hell has gotten into Depaul? Just saw that score at half

[GoMuskies]

After today's results, it's hard to imagine Xavier as worse than the #2 seed in NYC.

[bjf123]

Georgetown takes down Seton Hall.


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[paulxu]

So Georgetown, DePaul and St Johns all will today.

In the Big 12, unranked Baylor beat #10 Kansas, unranked Iowa St. beat #17 Oklahoma, and unranked Oklahoma St beat #19 West Virginia.

[Xuperman]

Is it possible that the Friars end up being the worst team in the BEast when all is said and done?

[X-band '01]

Not a chance. They're still in 4th at the moment at 7-5. Marquette is a team I think can fall below either Georgetown, DePaul or the Johnnies.

[GoMuskies]

Marquette has to play St. Johns twice. Easily could be two losses.

[X-band '01]

One of those losses was today.

[GoMuskies]

Oh, yeah. I'm getting old.

[xudash]

Oh, yeah. I'm getting old.

You getting old means me getting dead.

So, please slow down with that.

[Xuperman]

Not a chance. They're still in 4th at the moment at 7-5. Marquette is a team I think can fall below either Georgetown, DePaul or the Johnnies.

Look at their last 6.....do they win any of them? At 7-11, it might not be the worst record but that would be ugly. I agree with MU tanking also.

[Grizzx12]

So since Ponds went 0-12 from the field with 2 points @Futler he's gone for 31, 33, 26, and 44. Anyone think if he keeps it up he jumps into the draft? Dude is playing out of his mind the past few weeks and I am not one to assess pro potential/if it's the right time to make a move.

[gladdenguy]

So since Ponds went 0-12 from the field with 2 points @Futler he's gone for 31, 33, 26, and 44. Anyone think if he keeps it up he jumps into the draft? Dude is playing out of his mind the past few weeks and I am not one to assess pro potential/if it's the right time to make a move.

He gone

[XUFan09]

So since Ponds went 0-12 from the field with 2 points @Futler he's gone for 31, 33, 26, and 44. Anyone think if he keeps it up he jumps into the draft? Dude is playing out of his mind the past few weeks and I am not one to assess pro potential/if it's the right time to make a move.

A few games doesn't make a player leap into the draft from out of nowhere, especially when his listed height of 6'1" is highly questionable. Ponds' Kenpom Offensive Rating only just reached the D1 average after this span of games. He isn't getting drafted, but if can be setting up a really good junior season right now.

[American X]

Two games tonight:

Tuesday, February 13, 2018

Georgetown Generic Mascots @ Butler Generic Mascots
6:30 PM EST
CBSSN

Bemidji State @ Creighton (Huh?)
8:00 PM EST
FS2

[muskiefan82]

Two games tonight:

Tuesday, February 13, 2018

Georgetown Generic Mascots @ Butler Generic Mascots
6:30 PM EST
CBSSN

Bemidji State @ Creighton (Huh?)
8:00 PM EST
FS2

Creighton scheduled what is essentially an exhibition during their week off to stay semi-fresh.

[X-band '01]

Creighton actually does a charity game once a year about this time, but I don't know why they insist it be a non-DI team, though.

[GoMuskies]

Creighton actually does a charity game once a year about this time, but I don't know why they insist it be a non-DI team, though.

Dollar beer night?

[X-band '01]

Butler is in deep doo doo at home against Georgetown.

[GoMuskies]

I know it's early, but Creighton should go ahead and wake up against their D II opponent.

[D-West & PO-Z]

well a 6-0 run in about 26 secs has butler down only 3 now.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Down 3 and Butler has a horrible possession. No one touches it but Baldwin who dribbles around loses his dribble then takes a very deep three and misses bad. Gotta get the ball to Martin there. Butler goes down to Georgetown at home. That is a bad loss.

[X-band '01]

Georgetown now a half game behind Marquette in the standings. It'll be the second time they'll have a week off before their upcoming game with Xavier.

[RyanblockXU]

Yikes.


Seriously, if the rest of the country weren't so bad, the Big east would be in pretty big danger of only getting 3-4 bids. Butler is now 17-10, Providence is 16-9, and Seton Hall is 17-8. At some point all those losses have to mean something, and While butler does have some great wins, they are far from a lock and can still blow it. Same for SHU and Providence. If Georgetown and St Johns stay hot, its Bad news for the middle of the league

[GoMuskies]

Is there anyone in the league other than DePaul who has no shot at MSG in three weeks?

[xavierj]

Yikes.


Seriously, if the rest of the country weren't so bad, the Big east would be in pretty big danger of only getting 3-4 bids. Butler is now 17-10, Providence is 16-9, and Seton Hall is 17-8. At some point all those losses have to mean something, and While butler does have some great wins, they are far from a lock and can still blow it. Same for SHU and Providence. If Georgetown and St Johns stay hot, its Bad news for the middle of the league

Don’t pay attention to records. People know how tough it is to win in this conference. Seton Hall has a win at Louisville and over Texas Tech by 10, who might win the Big 12. St. John’s beat Duke and crushed Nebraska by 20, who some think might get in. Plus other teams and other conferences are losing as well. Oklahoma, Texas A&M and KY all have losing conference records.

[X-band '01]

Is there anyone in the league other than DePaul who has no shot at MSG in three weeks?

Probably Marquette. Even they found a way to win at Seton Hall last week, though.

[xu82]

Don’t pay attention to records. People know how tough it is to win in this conference. Seton Hall has a win at Louisville and over Texas Tech by 10, who might win the Big 12. St. John’s beat Duke and crushed Nebraska by 20, who some think might get in.

YES, it’s hard to win on the road, or even at home in the Big East. We’ve performed well against the rest of the country. I will not be ashamed. If anything, I’m even MORE proud of the Xavier record this year. Stealing a couple road games and mostly holding serve at home is generally a good season.

[RyanblockXU]

Don’t pay attention to records. People know how tough it is to win in this conference. Seton Hall has a win at Louisville and over Texas Tech by 10, who might win the Big 12. St. John’s beat Duke and crushed Nebraska by 20, who some think might get in.

that doesn't matter though, at some point, the losses start to pile up and You'll see these teams slipping to the bubble if they keep losing to Depaul, Gtown and St Johns.

Last year, so many BE teams got in because of the collapse of XU and Creighton. But this year, the top 2 teams aren't dropping games and Xavier or Nova, may have to lay an egg or two if they want to get more teams in.

if we beat SHU, they will be on a 4 game losing streak and trending way way down. Providence didn't do anything in the non conference and is operating on Razor thin margins, it can't lose any more games it shouldn't and while Butler has a bunch of great wins, their resume isn't a lock by any means.

I mean the big east is tough; but it only has 2 great teams and the rest are decent but not great and are pretty flawed.

[xavierj]

that doesn't matter though, at some point, the losses start to pile up and You'll see these teams slipping to the bubble if they keep losing to Depaul, Gtown and St Johns.

Last year, so many BE teams got in because of the collapse of XU and Creighton. But this year, the top 2 teams aren't dropping games and Xavier or Nova, may have to lay an egg or two if they want to get more teams in.

if we beat SHU, they will be on a 4 game losing streak and trending way way down. Providence didn't do anything in the non conference and is operating on Razor thin margins, it can't lose any more games it shouldn't and while Butler has a bunch of great wins, their resume isn't a lock by any means.

I mean the big east is tough; but it only has 2 great teams and the rest are decent but not great and are pretty flawed.

Maybe Xavier and Nova are that good. St. John’s showed they can play with anyone.

[D-West & PO-Z]

that doesn't matter though, at some point, the losses start to pile up and You'll see these teams slipping to the bubble if they keep losing to Depaul, Gtown and St Johns.

Last year, so many BE teams got in because of the collapse of XU and Creighton. But this year, the top 2 teams aren't dropping games and Xavier or Nova, may have to lay an egg or two if they want to get more teams in.

if we beat SHU, they will be on a 4 game losing streak and trending way way down. Providence didn't do anything in the non conference and is operating on Razor thin margins, it can't lose any more games it shouldn't and while Butler has a bunch of great wins, their resume isn't a lock by any means.

I mean the big east is tough; but it only has 2 great teams and the rest are decent but not great and are pretty flawed.

I wouldnt be too worried.

Again people usually tend to forget just how bad the bubble is every year.

For example USC is the last team in in Lunardi's latest bracket. They have ZERO top 25 wins and two top 50 wins (Middle Tennessee and #49 NM State). They also have a loss to #208 Princeton.

Providence meanwhile has two top 25 wins and 4 top 50 wins. They do have two 150+ losses.

Seton Hall has 2 top 25 wins and 5 top 50 wins. 1 150+ loss.

Butler has 2 top 20 wins, no 150+ losses.

Creighton has one top 25 and three top 50 wins. Worst loss is to #53.

The BE will be just fine come tourney time.

[X-band '01]

As for the Big East tournament, the powers that be are secretly hoping that Georgetown and St. John's face each other in Round 1. Very dangerous to have 2 live wires active for the conference tournament.

[GIMMFD]

As for the Big East tournament, the powers that be are secretly hoping that Georgetown and St. John's face each other in Round 1. Very dangerous to have 2 live wires active for the conference tournament.

That would ultimately be the best case scenario for everybody (*cough* us and Nova *cough*) involved, but at the end of the day, we have to go out there and take care of business no matter how hot a team is to be considered the #4 team in the country. I trust Mack, I trust our depth, I trust our guys. We can get it done.

[X-band '01]

It's also hurting teams like Marquette (who's getting further away from the NCAAs by the day) as well as Butler and Providence who haven't salted away bids yet. We'll see how Providence in particular reacts after getting their pants pulled down at home against DePaul.

[X Factor]

Providence up 7 on Nova with 3:30 left!

[Xville]

Come on Nova...dont take the shine off the game saturday!

[bjf123]

Too many upsets in the BE lately has me concerned about tonight.


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[letskeepitreal]

Nova going down to Providence! Brunson fouls out.

[paulxu]

Maybe we should wear pink shoes.

[X Factor]

Come on Nova...dont take the shine off the game saturday!

Nova losing helps Xavier win a BE title. Beat them Saturday and Xavier is in GREAT shape on winning the Big East.

[Xville]

Well i guess the good news in nova losing tonight is if x wins two this week, they essentially clinch the big east.

[Xville]

Nova losing helps Xavier win a BE title. Beat them Saturday and Xavier is in GREAT shape on winning the Big East.

Yeah I just mentioned the same thing but from a national perspective it would have been nice to have nova win tonight.

[xavierj]

Come on Nova...dont take the shine off the game saturday!

I don’t think it does. Nova will be desperate and both teams will still be fighting for a championship and trying to keep the #1 seed alive. Will be intense regardless. Nova will be desperate as well.

[HenryMuto]

Providence trying their best to blow it

[HenryMuto]

Providence trying super hard to blow it

[Xville]

I don’t think it does. Nova will be desperate and both teams will still be fighting for a championship and trying to keep the #1 seed alive. Will be intense regardless. Nova will be desperate as well.

From a big East perspective it doesn't but from a national perspective I think it certainly does.

[Xville]

Not over yet though.

[HenryMuto]

Providence was up 69-62 with ball and 1:06 left.............

It's now Providence 73-69 with 29 seconds left and Nova ball but Nova missed a 3 giving Providence back the ball.

[Xville]

19 turnovers tonight for nova. Very un-nova like.

[HenryMuto]

Providence gives life another missed FT and Nova scores to cut lead to 74-71 with 14 seconds left.

[XUFan09]

Jesus Christ, clock operators.

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[Xville]

Big win for Providence...two wins this week and the big east is essentially ours

[HenryMuto]

Court storming.........Win tonight and win on Saturday and all but lock up the league championship being 2 up in the loss column with 3 games left.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Yeah I just mentioned the same thing but from a national perspective it would have been nice to have nova win tonight.

At least it will still be 3 v 4.

[Lloyd Braun]

I'm still Team St. Johns is Winning Out

Getting closer...

[GoMuskies]

Getting closer...

I still believe. They're going to be a nightmare first round opponent for us in MSG. Just glad they'll only have a 12 hour turnaround.

[Lloyd Braun]

I still believe. They're going to be a nightmare first round opponent for us in MSG. Just glad they'll only have a 12 hour turnaround.

If they win out they won’t be the opponent, right?

[GoMuskies]

If they win out they won’t be the opponent, right?

They need some help to get all the way to 7th.

[xavierj]

They need some help to get all the way to 7th.

If they won out they would pass up Marquette, as they would have beaten them twice. Marquette still has two games against Creighton and at Georgetown. But I doubt St Johns will win out.

[GoMuskies]

They need Marquette to lose two more in addition to St. Johns beating them. No guarantees that would happen. I'd much rather have the winner of Marquette/Georgetown than St. Johns/Georgetown.

[X-band '01]

Marquette actually came from 15 points down to win at Creighton last night. It was expensive on multiple fronts - not only does it ding Creighton's profile, but Markus Howard left the game with a hip injury. It's not clear yet how long he could be out of action.

[Lloyd Braun]

Marquette actually came from 15 points down to win at Creighton last night. It was expensive on multiple fronts - not only does it ding Creighton's profile, but Markus Howard left the game with a hip injury. It's not clear yet how long he could be out of action.

He landed on his back/pelvis and was taken to the hospital. That usually means a fracture was seen on X-ray or he has neurological symptoms (numbness in leg), which would be very bad news for him and Marquette. Hopefully it’s nothing serious and he comes back for them.

[Cheesehead]

He landed on his back/pelvis and was taken to the hospital. That usually means a fracture was seen on X-ray or he has neurological symptoms (numbness in leg), which would be very bad news for him and Marquette. Hopefully it’s nothing serious and he comes back for them.

Right hip contusion, status is day to day for next game.

[Lloyd Braun]

Right hip contusion, status is day to day for next game.

So he was taken to the hospital for a hip contusion? Most teams are very careful with disclosing injuries and I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s something else going on. Hopefully they were just being over cautious because he was in a lot of pain.

[American X]

Wednesday, February 21, 2018
Musketeers @ Hoyas
6:30 PM
Capital One Arena, Washington
FS1

Pirates @ Friars
6:30 PM <small data-bind="text: TimeZoneAbbr" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 9.6px; line-height: inherit; color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8);">EST</small>
Dunkin' Donuts Center, Providence
FSN

Red Storm @ Golden Eagles
8:30 PM <small data-bind="text: TimeZoneAbbr" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 9.6px; line-height: inherit; color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8);">EST</small>
BMO Harris Bradley Center, Milwaukee
FSN

Blue Demons @ Wildcats
8:30 PM <small data-bind="text: TimeZoneAbbr" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-size: 9.6px; line-height: inherit; color: rgba(0, 0, 0, 0.8);">EST</small>
FS1

[Cheesehead]

So he was taken to the hospital for a hip contusion? Most teams are very careful with disclosing injuries and I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s something else going on. Hopefully they were just being over cautious because he was in a lot of pain.

Ok, well Google it then for yourself.

[Lloyd Braun]

Ok, well Google it then for yourself.

I wasn’t questioning the press release itself, just questioning its transparency.

[Lloyd Braun]

Seton hall- Providence getting postponed due to court malfunction.

[bobbiemcgee]

Seton hall- Providence getting postponed due to court malfunction.

I would prefer a cheerleader malfunction.

[mid major]

Anyone else on this board glad hockey is not played at the Cintas.

[Lloyd Braun]

They’re playing the game tomorrow at alumni hall which is where the women’s team play. Only faculty and students will be allowed to attend. So does that mean they refund tickets for everyone else? That’s a bad situation

[Cheesehead]

St John's returns to its former ways and looked lethargic against Marquette tonight and Marquette was without Markus Howard.

[bobbiemcgee]

Seton hall- Providence getting postponed due to court malfunction.

They should have called it before Desi got hurt. Sucks for the Hall.

[GoMuskies]

Go Nova! I don't want either of us to lose until Saturday night in MSG.

[Grizzx12]

If it's any consolation for what he did to X a few games ago, Bridges is doing it again to Seton Hall. Dude is good

[Xuperman]

If it's any consolation for what he did to X a few games ago, Bridges is doing it again to Seton Hall. Dude is good

Could Bridges, Brunson AND SPELLMAN all leave for NBA $$$?

[GoMuskies]

Villanova doesn't play offense like this against us.

[Xuperman]

Go Nova! I don't want either of us to lose until Saturday night in MSG.

Hell no....Go HALL!! I want NO CHANCE at a shared title with those arrogant a-holes.This game is a WAR!!!

[Xuperman]

No Ponds tonight for the Johnnies?

[drudy23]

Would be cool for them to learn Nova loses during their banquet tonight. Somebody film that.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Villanova doesn't play offense like this against us.

46 points? Have they been ice cold?

[drudy23]

Brunson is a baller.

[paulxu]

The Hall let this one slip away.
(actually, Nova is just taking it back)

[GoMuskies]

46 points? Have they been ice cold?

6 of 29 from 3.

[paulxu]

Hall has a chance to get this.

[GIMMFD]

Hall has a chance to get this.

Even if Nova wins, can they PLEASE FOR ONCE shoot like that against us?? Like what the hell. This is getting comical at this point.

[paulxu]

Missed the FT to win. OT

[GoMuskies]

6 of 30

[GoMuskies]

6 of 31

[GoMuskies]

I think we can take an 8 for 36 shooting Nova.

[D-West & PO-Z]

6 of 29 from 3.

Must be nice.

[X Factor]

I think we can take an 8 for 36 shooting Nova.

Unbelievable. Nova could play blindfolded against X and make 10 threes on probably 25 attempts.

[GetUp5]

Wow. Butler sucks. Pretty pathetic they couldn't beat St. John's without Shamorie Ponds. The Butler Way.

[Xuperman]

The Pirates got screwed. Looked like a clean steal off Brunson on that last inbound play. Anyone else sick of hearing Wright being called GQJay?

[Xville]

Wow. Butler sucks. Pretty pathetic they couldn't beat St. John's without Shamorie Ponds. The Butler Way.

Not thrilled with the idea that X may be matched up with St John's in the qtr final now due to this win.

[KabeX]

Was just thinking the same thing. Well they'll surely be jacked for it. Not sure that would cost us a #1 but I wouldn't want to find out.

[AviatorX]

Does St. John's have the tie break over DePaul? I know they split.

I'm confident X can beat St. John's again. Plus we don't really know the deal with Ponds yet, correct?

EDIT: Yes, they have it because both went/hopefully will go in Depaul's case 0-2 against 1st place Xavier but SJU has the win over 2nd place Nova. Basically, if I'm reading things right (big if), if X wins Sat, they'll play the winner of Georgetown/SJU no matter what.

For anyone who wants to try to decipher the middle of the bracket: http://bball.notnothing.net/bigeast.php?sport=mbb

[Xuperman]

Butler fans in total meltdown.....if you want to be thoroughly humored, go to the ButlerHoops forum

[xudash]

Butler fans in total meltdown.....if you want to be thoroughly humored, go to the ButlerHoops forum

Little Brother v2.

It gets better: VD lost to LossSalle tonight.

If I wake up tomorrow to read that UC is on probation for football and basketball and multiple police horses are in the vet hospital, I'll assume I bought it tonight and went to heaven.

[XUFan09]

The Pirates got screwed. Looked like a clean steal off Brunson on that last inbound play. Anyone else sick of hearing Wright being called GQJay?On the replay, he clearly pulled Brunson in the other direction before grabbing the ball. It was a good call. I just wish Carrington could have hit both free theows at the end of regulation.

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[Lloyd Braun]

Does St. John's have the tie break over DePaul? I know they split.

I'm confident X can beat St. John's again. Plus we don't really know the deal with Ponds yet, correct?

EDIT: Yes, they have it because both went/hopefully will go in Depaul's case 0-2 against 1st place Xavier but SJU has the win over 2nd place Nova. Basically, if I'm reading things right (big if), if X wins Sat, they'll play the winner of Georgetown/SJU no matter what.

For anyone who wants to try to decipher the middle of the bracket: http://bball.notnothing.net/bigeast.php?sport=mbb

You are reading it correctly.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Wait Butler lost last night? They were up like 5 with 30 secs left when I saw last. What happened?

[bjf123]

Double OT, and St. John’s without Ponds.


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[xu koop scoop]

Double OT, and St. John’s without Ponds.


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What happened to Ponds?

[GIMMFD]

Double OT, and St. John’s without Ponds.


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Butler very may well still be winless in the Big East Tournament after this year..

[bobbiemcgee]

Rowsey is unconscious.

[bjf123]

Just might have gotten Marquette into the dance. They need to win at least one at MSG.


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[X Factor]

I think Creighton losing puts them on our side of the bracket as the 4 seed. Looks like X, assuming we beat St. John's or Georgetown, will play the winner of Providence vs Creighton.

If Butler wins tonight at Seton Hall, then Butler will be the 4 seed and Creighton the 5 seed, and X will play the winner of that game.

[X-band '01]

Just might have gotten Marquette into the dance. They need to win at least one at MSG.


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I think Marquette would be a 7, but it won't be solidified until Butler-Seton Hall goes final. They definitely need to beat DePaul - I don't think they'd be punished just for a loss against Villanova in the quarters.

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This is the Big East bracket if Seton Hall beats Butler:

FIRST ROUND (Wednesday)
Game 1: (8) Georgetown vs. (9) St. John's
Game 2: (7) Marquette vs. (10) DePaul

QUARTERFINAL ROUND (Thursday)
Game 3: (1) Xavier vs. Georgetown/St. John's
Game 4: (4) Creighton vs. (5) Providence
Game 5: (2) Villanova vs. Marquette/DePaul
Game 6: (3) Seton Hall vs. (6) Butler

In this scenario, Seton Hall, Creighton and Providence are all tied at 10-8 in conference play. Seton Hall would get the #3 seed by virtue of a 3-1 record within the group. Creighton was 2-2 against the group and Providence was 1-3 against the group. Butler and Marquette would both be 9-9 in the conference, but Butler would be #6 with a season sweep of Marquette.

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This is the Big East bracket if Butler beats Seton Hall:

FIRST ROUND (Wednesday)
Game 1: (8) Georgetown vs. (9) St. John's
Game 2: (7) Seton Hall vs. (10) DePaul

QUARTERFINAL ROUND (Thursday)
Game 3: (1) Xavier vs. Georgetown/St. John's
Game 4: (4) Butler vs. (5) Creighton
Game 5: (2) Villanova vs. Seton Hall/DePaul
Game 6: (3) Providence vs. (6) Marquette

In this scenario, Providence, Creighton and Butler are all tied at 10-8 in conference play. All three teams went 2-2 against each other. Providence would be #3 by virtue of their win against Xavier, and Butler would be #4 by virtue of their season sweep against Marquette. Creighton ultimately gets the #5 spot. Seton Hall and Marquette would both be 9-9 in the conference, but Marquette would be #6 with a season sweep of Seton Hall.

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No pressure on Seton Hall tonight. It’s only the difference between a 3 and a 7 seed.


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