NCAA Basketball 2017-18

[X-band '01]

It's early, but Northwestern up 14 midway through the first half. Would be great to play for a potential #2 ranking today if MSU falls.

Virginia has a bye this weekend, so they'll remain #1 after beating Miami on the road midweek.

[KabeX]

Virginia's toughest remaining game appears to be at Louisville. By no means am I suggesting ... wait the hell I'm not! Win today and there is a chance (so I'm saying there's a chance) for the 1st time in history X will at some point be ranked ... OK I'm not gonna jinx it. JUST WIN TODAY!!

[GIMMFD]

Northwestern laying the hammer down on Michigan State, hopefully we get a huge win at Cintas and move up to #2 in the country... damn that sounds good huh?

[xu82]

Northwestern laying the hammer down on Michigan State, hopefully we get a huge win at Cintas and move up to #2 in the country... damn that sounds good huh?

Damn you and your JINX!

:drool:

They were up 27, now it’s down to single digits.

[X-band '01]

Two of Northwestern's top players have sat out the last 4 minutes with 4 fouls apiece.

[xu82]

It sounds like a sold out HOME game for Mich St!!!

[GoMuskies]

Is Michigan State on a 28-0 run?

[X-band '01]

It was a 28-2 run; Northwestern had a 23-point lead before the carnage began.

[paulxu]

Northwestern scored 11 Points in the second half.

[paulxu]

And the Cocks are hammering Auburn. At least for one half.

[GoMuskies]

Huggy Bear just got ejected in Lawrence. Given that the FT disparity was about 30-2, he probably had a point.

[Lloyd Braun]

Baylor beats TT. That’s huge.

[Lloyd Braun]

Huggy Bear just got ejected in Lawrence. Given that the FT disparity was about 30-2, he probably had a point.

Jamie Lucky strikes again

[GoMuskies]

Wichita State's offense is so good that they scored 42 on UC in the first half. Wichita State's defense is so bad that they gave up 40 points to UC in the first half.

[Westbrook36]

Cincy's defense is nowhere as good as advertised and their offense is just as dreadful as advertised.

[GIMMFD]

Baylor beats TT. That’s huge.

Just making that win against them look even better, slowly but surely. Love it Baylor.

[bjf123]

Down go the Bearcats, 76-72.


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[GoMuskies]

Fun win for the Shockers. Gregg Marshall vs. Mick Cronin. No contest.

[Masterofreality]

“Mick Cronin expressed displeasure today with the Bearcats' senior leadership on defense. "It's really gross." Said the kids have been great but he's "beyond disappointed" with today's showing.”

On the Postgame radio show, YTG also alluded to the fact that in the first half the team had 26 deflections and only 8 in the second half and threw his team under the bus for lack of second half effort. There was no comment about his own bad offense, nor why his team is bad (263rd) in Free Throw shooting. The Borecats missed a lot of big free throws in the last two games. Remember how this board was melting down over Xavier’s FT shooting a couple of years ago. Mickey Mouse seems to get off unscathed by the black and red clad minions.

[Juice]

“Mick Cronin expressed displeasure today with the Bearcats' senior leadership on defense. "It's really gross." Said the kids have been great but he's "beyond disappointed" with today's showing.”

On the Postgame radio show, YTG also alluded to the fact that in the first half the team had 26 deflections and only 8 in the second half and threw his team under the bus for lack of second half effort. There was no comment about his own bad offense, nor why his team is bad (263rd) in Free Throw shooting. The Borecats missed a lot of big free throws in the last two games. Remember how this board was melting down over Xavier’s FT shooting a couple of years ago. Mickey Mouse seems to get off unscathed by the black and red clad minions.

Obviously the result for UC was disappointing, but I didn't find their effort or anything to be disappointing. Sometimes a good team just beats you. It doesn't have to be some catastrophe where you have to question your players' leadership every time you lose a game.

[bjf123]

Mick does seem to throw his players under the bus a lot. Then again, he learned from the best at that, Huggy Bear.


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[Masterofreality]

Obviously the result for UC was disappointing, but I didn't find their effort or anything to be disappointing. Sometimes a good team just beats you. It doesn't have to be some catastrophe where you have to question your players' leadership every time you lose a game.

Quoth Mickey Mouse: “Cronin called the Bearcats’ senior leadership on defense “gross” and the team’s overall defensive problems “mind-boggling.”

Way to trash ya boy Gary Clark, gnome

[dethwing]

Am the only one who finds it weird that the Big 10 regular season is almost over? OSU plays their last game tomorrow, and the rest of the league will be done Sunday. Tournament starts next week! I know they're doing it so they can use MSG before the Big East, but still. Isn't that freakishly early? They're going to be sitting around for weeks.

[Nigel Tufnel]

Am the only one who finds it weird that the Big 10 regular season is almost over? OSU plays their last game tomorrow, and the rest of the league will be done Sunday. Tournament starts next week! I know they're doing it so they can use MSG before the Big East, but still. Isn't that freakishly early? They're going to be sitting around for weeks.

The Big 10 is ending its season a week early so they can play the Big 10 conference tournament at MSG.

[dethwing]

Er....I just said that.

[Juice]

Er....I just said that.

So why are you confused?

[XUFan09]

So why are you confused?I think he's just emphasizing how crazy and out-of-sync this is.

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[GoMuskies]

I think he's just emphasizing how crazy and out-of-sync this is.

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It's a little odd, but essentially half of the conference tournaments start next week.

[XUFan09]

It's a little odd, but essentially half of the conference tournaments start next week.Generally low-major conferences, though, right?

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[GoMuskies]

Generally low-major conferences, though, right?

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Some mid-majors, too. The Missouri Valley will finish on Sunday right before (I assume without looking at the schedule) the Big Ten.

I don't recall any of the major conferences (from MWC, A-10, AAC, through the power leagues) ever going a week early, though. It will fun to add the Big Ten to make the "other" conference tournament weekend more star-studded.

[xu82]

I wonder which schools are currently most offended by the term “mid-major”?

[Lloyd Braun]

Alonzo Trier...ineligible. Wow.

Link (https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/ncaab/ua/2018/02/22/arizona-wildcats-allonzo-trier-ruled-ineligible-ncaa/365350002/)

[GoMuskies]

Not the greatest year for Sean Miller.

[bleedXblue]

Alonzo Trier...ineligible. Wow.

Link (https://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/ncaab/ua/2018/02/22/arizona-wildcats-allonzo-trier-ruled-ineligible-ncaa/365350002/)

this has to be a joke right?

He has something in his system for over a year? Is that even possible? Sounds like BS to me.

[xu82]

this has to be a joke right?

He has something in his system for over a year? Is that even possible? Sounds like BS to me.

My first reaction.....WTF could THAT be?

[Section 200]

I wonder which schools are currently most offended by the term “mid-major”?

UConn

[Grizzx12]

Wow is right! The kid is really good but after reading an article about it and peeking into their chat board the one thing I have not seen ANYWHERE is mention that perhaps he did something he shouldn't have? Their board apparently has a bunch of PhD's specialized in mammalian metabolic processing but jokes aside, the whole thing does seem odd but there is one sure fire way to test positive for a banned substance. And I'm no doctor, just a lowly mechanical engineer.

[bleedXblue]

apparently its the second time he's tested positive for a PED.

[GIMMFD]

Wow is right! The kid is really good but after reading an article about it and peeking into their chat board the one thing I have not seen ANYWHERE is mention that perhaps he did something he shouldn't have? Their board apparently has a bunch of PhD's specialized in mammalian metabolic processing but jokes aside, the whole thing does seem odd but there is one sure fire way to test positive for a banned substance. And I'm no doctor, just a lowly mechanical engineer.

I'm in medical school and I couldn't even tell you what could be in your system that long unless they tested a hair sample instead of pee sample. Just a really really weird story here.

[xu82]

I'm in medical school and I couldn't even tell you what could be in your system that long unless they tested a hair sample instead of pee sample. Just a really really weird story here.

I’m a little too familiar with drug tests, and he’d have to have pretty long hair! If your head hair is short, the take it from your armpit. NOT pleasant. No idea, unless it was a typo on the date.

[Lloyd Braun]

This (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/9509941/georgia-bulldogs-lineman-kolton-houston-eligible-3-year-battle) article is circulating the interwebs and message boards. Steroids can be stored in fat tissue and other tissue for a very long time, so that may complicate things.

[XUFan09]

This (http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/9509941/georgia-bulldogs-lineman-kolton-houston-eligible-3-year-battle) article is circulating the interwebs and message boards. Steroids can be stored in fat tissue and other tissue for a very long time, so that may complicate things.Yep. In Trier's case, he apparently took a PED when recovering from an injury. The NCAA agreed that he didn't know it was a PED and he would become eligible once a test found it was below a certain acceptable level. In another more recent test, it was above a certain level again. That fluctuation could easily happen from the variance in test samples or from the slow metabolism of what's stored long-term in the muscles. I just read that apparently doctors also agree that when this uptick in trace amounts happens, it doesn't convey any competitive advantage, as that time has long past. But, I don't think the NCAA really accounts for that research. Could he actually have taken PEDs since then to explain this failed test? Possibly, but I find it unlikely for two reasons:

1) He was already known by the NCAA as someone to watch out for. The risk was much higher for him than the average player.

2) It was still just trace amounts that just broke the minimum threshold. If he has been taking PEDs, the test would probably be more strongly conclusive.

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[waggy]

But first you'd have to have fat, right?

[dethwing]

Drexel breaks a Duke record that has stood since December of 1950. Comes back from down 34 (53-19) with a few minutes left in the first half to win by 2 Previous record was 32.

[GoMuskies]

Houston lost to Memphis last night?!? Oh man, that's brutal. Memphis is atrocious.

[muskiefan82]

Houston lost to Memphis last night?!? Oh man, that's brutal. Memphis is atrocious.

Houston can't be atrocious. They beat UC.

[GoMuskies]

Houston is not atrocious. But Memphis is.

[GoMuskies]

Dayton hung in there within 25 of URI. Well done Flyers!

[xu82]

Dayton hung in there within 25 of URI. Well done Flyers!

They must be so PROUD!

[GIMMFD]

Dayton hung in there within 25 of URI. Well done Flyers!

Woof, that program is really on a downward trend, especially with Archie jumping ship, could get really ugly for Dayton in the future.

[bobbiemcgee]

Dayton hung in there within 25 of URI. Well done Flyers!

On to the Gola shithole Garage.

They've signed a two game deal with the Cartoon Channel.

[xu82]

Rut row!


http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/22559284/sean-miller-arizona-christian-dawkins-discussed-payment-ensure-deandre-ayton-signing-according-fbi-investigation

[drudy23]

Rut row!


http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/22559284/sean-miller-arizona-christian-dawkins-discussed-payment-ensure-deandre-ayton-signing-according-fbi-investigation

Start the Buick

Really hope this started far after his ass left town.

[xu82]

Start the Buick

Really hope this started far after his ass left town.

I pray the exponential increase in pay led to his lack of judgement in trying to achieve. Hey, if you feel you have to cheat to earn it, just get by on being merely super rich. Lyons concerns me. He always did.

[drudy23]

Lyons concerns me. He always did.

Pretty much anyone associated with Richardson concerns me. Tu and Crawford too?

[GoMuskies]

Fuck Sean Miller.

[xumuskies08]

Jesus Christ what a fucking sports day and there weren’t even any sports


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[Muskie1000]

I’m pretty sure that’s why he left. Remember that comment about not being able to get a national championship here? Probably because he couldn’t cheat.

[MuskieXU]

People are inevitably going to be concerned that this happened at Xavier, but I just dont see it. The money is coming from shoe companies and agents, who target potential NBA kids early to sign them later. Sean never recruited an NBA level talent while he was at X. In fact the only top 100 recruits by my count were Kenny Frease, Canty, and Lyons. No agent or shoe company would funnel money to them because theres no real return on that investment. Is it possible those kids were getting impermissible benefits? Sure, anythings possible. But its not like we saw a big jump in recruiting when Sean came in. I'm not naive enough to say some level of cheating isnt possible anywhere. But if you look at the recruiting rankings the same teams are getting the NBA talent and Xavier isnt involved with those kids, so I dont have much to worry about.

[MuskieXU]

Jesus Christ what a fucking sports day and there weren’t even any sports


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Wait you didnt tune in to see Dayton get rolled by 25?

[xu82]

Pretty much anyone associated with Richardson concerns me. Tu and Crawford too?

True, I just want to stay clear of any more flack. I’m NOW glad Book followed Sean. I admit I didn’t love it at the time.

[murray87]

Wait you didnt tune in to see Dayton get rolled by 25?

Senior day can't get here soon enough!!

Maybe UD should move their hoops program to Division III to match up with their football.

[HenryMuto]

I figured I would start a thread for anyone who wanted to discuss any games today since X is off.

I will start off by saying I found it interesting on who was favored today in a couple Big East games.

Georgetown favored by 1.5 vs Providence

Saint John's favored by 2.5 vs Seton Hall

Two teams projected to be in the tournament as underdogs on the road against 2 of the bottom teams in the Big East.

That shows the depth this league has now as both Saint John's and Georgetown have come a long way from the start of the season.

[HenryMuto]

Rooting for Texas Tech today. Xavier's hold on the #3 overall seed and even a #1 seed at all not only depends on X winning but how teams like Kansas and Michigan State do. Northwestern screwed things up blowing that 27 point lead.

[GIMMFD]

Rooting for Texas Tech today. Xavier's hold on the #3 overall seed and even a #1 seed at all not only depends on X winning but how teams like Kansas and Michigan State do. Northwestern screwed things up blowing that 27 point lead.

I still think we're a bit ahead of Kansas and Michigan State for the 3 overall seed, but we just have to take care of business, and win out until the Big East Championship, and see what happens there. Granted, I don't mind Kansas and Michigan State losing more, it helps us out. But I think we're okay in terms of locking up a one seed, I for one would love to see us get 3rd overall, but 4th wouldn't be so terrible of a consolation. Just have to play good basketball, and keep gelling, and peak it out in March like we're used to seeing. That being said if Creighton, Pitt, and Texas Tech wanted to play lights out today, I wouldn't be opposed.

[HenryMuto]

Marquette seeing their NCAA hopes going up in flames at DePaul right now.

[Xville]

I mean does it really make a difference if we are a 1 or a 2? Regardless x is going to be playjng close to home and after the first round, going to have to play good teams from then on.

[HenryMuto]

Both Providence and Seton Hall games going down to the wire....exciting stuff.

[HenryMuto]

I mean does it really make a difference if we are a 1 or a 2? Regardless x is going to be playjng close to home and after the first round, going to have to play good teams from then on.

Makes a difference. 7/10 beats a 2 much more than an 8/9 beats a 1 we learned that first hand against Wisconsin. Also a 16 has never beat a 1 while a 15 has beat a 2 eight times.

Bucknell isn't a terrible team that could be a 15 seed threat this year. Their team is much better than their paper they have their top 9 guys back from a team that made the tournament last year and did well for a while. Not sure what their deal was this year losing the games they did but they have talent to beat a 2 seed.

Records seed vs seed

1 seed vs 8/9 = 135-24 (85%)

2 seed vs 7/10 = 100-49 (67%)

[Xville]

Makes a difference. 7/10 beats a 2 much more than an 8/9 beats a 1 we learned that first hand against Wisconsin. Also a 16 has never beat a 1 while a 15 has beat a 2 eight times.

Bucknell isn't a terrible team that could be a 15 seed threat this year. Their team is much better than their paper they have their top 9 guys back from a team that made the tournament last year and did well for a while. Not sure what their deal was this year losing the games they did but they have talent to beat a 2 seed.

Records seed vs seed

1 seed vs 8/9 = 135-24 (85%)

2 seed vs 7/10 = 100-49 (67%)

Meh to each their own I guess. Worrying about a 15 to me is ridiculous...going to have to beat good teams along the way and particularly this year, all I really care about is who are the other top 4 seeds in our bracket...i think that is way more important then if we are a 1 or 2.

[bjf123]

Both Providence and Seton Hall games going down to the wire....exciting stuff.

Both were one possession games with under a minute left. Love the last channel button on the remote for switching back and forth!


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[HenryMuto]

Odds of playing Saint John's in the Big East tournament just went up. Saint John's has beaten both Duke and Villanova yet they are in last place in the Big East standings. Unreal.

[Xavier]

Meh to each their own I guess. Worrying about a 15 to me is ridiculous...going to have to beat good teams along the way and particularly this year, all I really care about is who are the other top 4 seeds in our bracket...i think that is way more important then if we are a 1 or 2.

I see it both ways. I mean obviously I want a 1 seed, would be really cool to see that. But I think I want 1 seed also because the 8/9 is easier/the path to the elite 8 where we would see the other top seed. It is a year where there are a ton of teams that can pull off upsets, the likelihood is we wouldn't see the other top team in the bracket, IMO.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I mean does it really make a difference if we are a 1 or a 2? Regardless x is going to be playjng close to home and after the first round, going to have to play good teams from then on.

Yes it makes a difference.

I think 2 years ago when we were potentially looking at a 1 seed someone said something similar and I posted the winning % of a 1 seed vs a 2 seed in each round and the 1 seed was much higher, and as you would guess had better odds to reach the final 4. I am too lazy to look that up again but maybe someone else would want to.

Also as unlikely as it is a 16 has never beat a 1 seed, 15 seeds have beat 2 seeds several times.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Meh to each their own I guess. Worrying about a 15 to me is ridiculous...going to have to beat good teams along the way and particularly this year, all I really care about is who are the other top 4 seeds in our bracket...i think that is way more important then if we are a 1 or 2.

When 1 seeds are 85% and 2 seeds are 67% in their second round game it really isnt to each their own, those are facts that answer your question of does it really make a difference. Answer? Yes.

[bjf123]

DePaul knocked off Marquette today. Don’t think the BE will be getting 7 into the dance.


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[xu82]

When 1 seeds are 85% and 2 seeds are 67% in their second round game it really isnt to each their own, those are facts that answer your question of does it really make a difference. Answer? Yes.

Well done, sir! You’re not as lazy as advertised!!!

Some of that comes from the better teams being 1’s, and some from facing a weaker second opponent, but the numbers don’t lie.

[Xville]

When 1 seeds are 85% and 2 seeds are 67% in their second round game it really isnt to each their own, those are facts that answer your question of does it really make a difference. Answer? Yes.

If you are really concerned with losing in the second round I guess sure....but to me, especially this year, that's not my concern. More important to me are the other top seeds...i know the stats etc I get it..however if we are concerned with being one of those statistics in the second round, then this team isn't all that great.

[dethwing]

It isn't just the second round. 1 seeds are more likely to make elite 8, final 4s, and win championships.

[xu82]

Go Creighton!!!


Please?

[XUFan09]

If you are really concerned with losing in the second round I guess sure....but to me, especially this year, that's not my concern. More important to me are the other top seeds...i know the stats etc I get it..however if we are concerned with being one of those statistics in the second round, then this team isn't all that great.No one is "really concerned." You're exaggerating others' position. People just want to maximize win probability. It's equivalent to being up 10 points versus being up 15 points in a game with 10 minutes to go. You would feel good about your chances of winning either way, but obviously, you would rather be up 15 than up 10.

People can make arguments about matchups over seeding, and that's all well and good. But, the good and the bad matchups just as easily fall on one seed line or another, so it's not really relevant to a discussion of whether one seeding is better than another.

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[GIMMFD]

Pretty bummed about St. John's losing, there goes the dream guys. But yeah, let's not be silly, we'd much rather be a 1 seed for chances to be on our side. Plus a 1 looks a lot cooler than a 2 next to your name. "If you ain't first, you're last." - Ricky Bobby

[HenryMuto]

Creighton pulls to within 1 with 2 minutes left

[HenryMuto]

Creighton up 1 with 1:19 left (was down 8 now on 9-0 run)

Nova retakes lead by 2 with an AND 1 with 52 seconds left

[Strange Brew]

Nova gets the Duke treatment from BE refs

[HenryMuto]

Creighton hits a 3 back up 1 with 29 seconds left Nova timeout.

[bjf123]

Shouldn’t have been continuation on Brunson’s And 1. He was fouled well before the shot.


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[HenryMuto]

Wow they really let them play on that possession. That was prison ball and Creighton came up with it with 10 seconds left huge FT 1 AND 1 here.

[HenryMuto]

Oh my god are you kidding me ???????????????????????????

Up 1 miss the FT then foul them are you FN kidding me

[bjf123]

Dumb foul there


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[HenryMuto]

Overtime..........must make your FT's Creighton

[bjf123]

Well, shit. OT


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[Strange Brew]

Nova is protected by the league

[xavierj]

Wonder why Ronnie Harrell isn’t playing for Creighton today.

[HenryMuto]

Looked like a blocking foul the Nova guy jumped in front and his foot was on the line. Did the guy getting the block negate the foul on the guy jumping under him ?

[whopper]

Looked like a blocking foul the Nova guy jumped in front and his foot was on the line. Did the guy getting the block negate the foul on the guy jumping under him ?
You are correct and the fact that the announcers idd not even mention that worries me... Bridges is incredible but Foster fouled

[xu82]

GO CREIGHTON!!! OT underway.

[HenryMuto]

Nova 11/35 from 3...........16/34 vs us last game.

[HenryMuto]

Surprised they didn't call a foul on Creighton there

[HenryMuto]

That's off Nova (since they didn't call a foul)

This is where it used to be the refs wouldn't call a foul but give it to the team with the ball now they can no longer do that.

[bjf123]

At least not in the last 2 minutes.


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[HenryMuto]

Make ur FT's Creighton

[Strange Brew]

Intentional
Unless you’re Nova

Replay not kind to this crew

[HenryMuto]

Wow I am shocked they called that an F1 I mean you see players foul all the time not going for the ball under 1 minute left with it never called.

[HenryMuto]

The game clock was running with more than 1 minute left on the score IT SHOULD NOT BE SET BACK THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE STOPPED THAT

[HenryMuto]

If the basket scored is 1 minute or more it runs it doesn't stop at 1 Minute this isn't the NBA

[stammina0721]

Amazing how when a team is not playing X they can't hit 80% of their 3's

[HenryMuto]

Refs blew that they should not have stopped this game because the clock was running know your rules.

[HenryMuto]

Despite losing twice to Nova it looks like X now controls their own destiny to the conf outright championship and the #1 seed in the Big East.

[HenryMuto]

Virginia leads Pitt 30-7 at the half and Pitt is at home........they are bad but my god

Pitt leading scorer has 3 pts at the half lol

[X Factor]

Xavier wins out and the BE Title is ours!

[bjf123]

It’s not over yet.


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[whopper]

Nothing for granted and I hope Coach Mack can keep the players focused. Many 4 minute wars to go but we got what we wanted. How come Marquette and Creighton can come up with Australian centers who can make a difference? Just an observation

[HenryMuto]

It’s not over yet.


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The Fat Lady is already singing

[bjf123]

Way to go Blue Jays!


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[HenryMuto]

Very interesting now. If X wins out and wins the BE championship despite losing 2 out of 3 they could reclaim #2 overall seed maybe...............

Nova loses to 4 other BE teams but X can't beat them and they had Booth back to boot and not only can X not win X gets blown out.

Frustrating.

[Strange Brew]

Nothing for granted and I hope Coach Mack can keep the players focused. Many 4 minute wars to go but we got what we wanted. How come Marquette and Creighton can come up with Australian centers who can make a difference? Just an observation

Um, X’s Centers are pretty good I think

[bobbiemcgee]

Jays will be dancing.

[stammina0721]

Very interesting now. If X wins out and wins the BE championship despite losing 2 out of 3 they could reclaim #2 overall seed maybe...............

Nova loses to 4 other BE teams but X can't beat them and they had Booth back to boot and not only can X not win X gets blown out.

Frustrating.

That is cause of nothing more than the three ball. Being 11 for 14 at one point was just stupid

[bobbiemcgee]

That is cause of nothing more than the three ball. Being 11 for 14 at one point was just stupid

Yep. They were up 8 on the Jays late and went 0-6 or 0-7. When the 3 ain't going down, Nova is beatable as we've seen in the NCAATs, but when it is, they're NC's.

[whopper]

Um, X’s Centers are pretty good I think I love our centers and have defended Sean to my daughters who (used to ) think he was slow, bad hands, etc. but now is a world beater. We will hear from Tyrique before this is out and Karem has been a rock.. I just think it is odd (nothing wrong with it) that Epperson and the Marquette guy(not that good but played well against SH in a win) are from Australia. If you look at the handle (Whopper=billy paultz) you know that I love clunky unauthordox centers. Epperson may have just made our year

[xu82]

Yep. They were up 8 on the Jays late and went 0-6 or 0-7. When the 3 ain't going down, Nova is beatable as we've seen in the NCAATs, but when it is, they're NC's.

Live by the 3, die by the 3. Getting a BE regular season championship would be AWESOME!

[GIMMFD]

I love our centers and have defended Sean to my daughters who (used to ) think he was slow, bad hands, etc. but now is a world beater. We will hear from Tyrique before this is out and Karem has been a rock.. I just think it is odd (nothing wrong with it) that Epperson and the Marquette guy(not that good but played well against SH in a win) are from Australia. If you look at the handle (Whopper=billy paultz) you know that I love clunky unauthordox centers. Epperson may have just made our year

In the grand scheme of things I get what you're saying but I'm very happy with our centers, I think they fit what we do perfectly, since all three have pretty unique games. We don't really need any of them to be world beaters with the scoring options we possess, what we need out of them is to do exactly what they've done this season, control the paint at times, be scoring threats when Tre/JP/etc. aren't absolutely lighting it up. When we've needed them, they've stepped up. It plays well with the dynamics of our team.

[HenryMuto]

Kansas going to move ahead of X for the #3 overall seed might move to #2 over Nova as well. They now have 11 quad 1 wins and 18 quad 1/2 wins.

X has 7 quad 1 and 13 quad 1/2 wins

[stammina0721]

In my opinion, not going to happen. I think X moves to number 2 overall with Kansas at 3. If I had to guess I'd say Nova goes to 4 overall with Duke a close 5th, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Duke at 4. My best guess is this.

1. Virginia
2. Xavier
3. Kansas
4. Nova
5. Duke

[xukeith]

In my opinion, not going to happen. I think X moves to number 2 overall with Kansas at 3. If I had to guess I'd say Nova goes to 4 overall with Duke a close 5th, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Duke at 4. My best guess is this.

1. Virginia
2. Xavier
3. Kansas
4. Nova
5. Duke

I guess:
1) UVA
2) XU
3) Villanova
4) Kansas

[American X]

DePaul knocked off Marquette today. Don’t think the BE will be getting 7 into the dance.

Big East to Marquette:

https://i.imgur.com/uBy5XdE.jpg

Thanks for those upsets of Creighton, Providence and Seton Hall, jerks.

[GoMuskies]

What the hell happened to East Tennessee State? They've lost four of five now.

[X-band '01]

I'm not aware of any recent injuries - of their recent losses, 3 were at home to Furman, Wofford and Citadel. Citadel?

[paulxu]

SoCon is a little wacky this year.
At one time the Citadel was scoring more points/game than most of the country.
Wofford lost to Mercer when MaGee missed last second shot yesterday, but was a fun game to watch.
Conference only ever sends winner to the dance, but it's fun basketball to watch.
Was more fun with Davidson in it, especially when Curry came to town.

[GoMuskies]

This is a pretty cool story. Well, at least it's cool since Northwestern didn't come back to win the game!

http://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sports/college/iowa/basketball-men/2018/02/25/jordan-bohannons-intentionally-missed-free-throw-keeps-chris-street-record-books/371686002/

[Muskie1000]

Awww Duke goes down but they are better than us...

[dethwing]

This is a pretty cool story. Well, at least it's cool since Northwestern didn't come back to win the game!

http://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sports/college/iowa/basketball-men/2018/02/25/jordan-bohannons-intentionally-missed-free-throw-keeps-chris-street-record-books/371686002/

I'll preface what I'm about to say by saying that I respect Jordan for doing this. Seems like a good kid, honoring a fallen Hawkeye in his own way. Not often you see that kind of humility. I'll also say I don't know much about Chris Street. I know he made 34 FTs in a row but died in a tragic car accident before he could continue the streak. Something of an Iowa hero/legend from what I gather. Again, sounds like a good kid. I'll assume he was a consummate teammate and all that jazz.

I don't think he should have missed the FTs for 2 reasons.

1. I ask myself, what would Chris have wanted? Do I think he would want to hold on to his record? Or if he were alive today, would he applaud a future Hawkeye for doing his best and accomplishing something great? Helping his team win? Others have said "What if the game were on the line?" and people have said Jordan would have done the same thing. Obviously there's no way to know, but I'm sure Chris wouldn't have wanted it that way. No basketball player would ever say to a teammate, or from the sidelines, "Miss this, so I keep my record." That's crazy talk.

2. Having said that, is the record really -that- important to Iowa fans? It sounds like he's remember for being a good player who was tragically cut down in the prime of his life. Would he be remembered any less if he didn't hold the FT record? What if Chris didn't hold any records....would they not remember him then? Of course not. So why is it so important that he keep this record?


Again, I'm not really trying to cut anyone down, I've got nothing against Jordan or Iowa, I'm just trying to promote some discussion. Everyone seems so quick to say it was the right thing and so forth, that no one is talking about the actual decision.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I'll also say I don't know much about Chris Street.

1. I ask myself, what would Chris have wanted?

How can you ask yourself (and assume) what Chris would have wanted when you start your post admitting you dont really know anything about him?

Also at that point it isnt really about what Chris would have wanted had he been alive today. His parents were in attendance as well, it was just a symbolic gesture more than really making sure his name is still in the record books etc. I have no idea Bohannon's relationship to Street's family but he seemed to do it for them.

[GoMuskies]

Street's dad told him to go out and make 35 in a row now.

[XU 87]

This is a pretty cool story. Well, at least it's cool since Northwestern didn't come back to win the game!

http://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sports/college/iowa/basketball-men/2018/02/25/jordan-bohannons-intentionally-missed-free-throw-keeps-chris-street-record-books/371686002/

I was wondering how his teammates would have felt had they lost the game by a point.

[GoMuskies]

I was wondering how his teammates would have felt had they lost the game by a point.

They probably would have been a bit pissed...until they realized that both Iowa and Northwestern suck and the game was of absolutely zero consequence.

Seriously, though, even though this was a meaningless game, Street's record is even more meaningless. If it had cost his team a win, it would have been the wrong thing to do.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Yeah I think its easy for him to say he would have done it even in a close game but I'm not sure he actually would have. Again though I dont know this kids relationship/experience with Street's family or if he was a kid who watched Street or what.

The game wasnt that close though, and both teams stink.

[X-band '01]

What Saint Joe's is doing to Rhody right now is illegal in most parts of the world.

[GoMuskies]

What Saint Joe's is doing to Rhody right now is illegal in most parts of the world.

Sort of reminds me of LaSalle doing something similar (and similarly unexpected) to us in the Gardens.

[X-band '01]

That was an NIT-level Xavier team, though. Rhody must have had a huge hangover after winning the regular season A-10 crown.

[muskiefan82]

That was an NIT-level Xavier team, though. Rhody must have had a huge hangover after winning the regular season A-10 crown.

I bet they cut the nets down before the last game......

[bigdiggins]

I'm taking KenPom's and Sagarin's word for them not being terrible. Both rate the Cyclones ahead of Marquette.

Iowa st now last in the big 12 by 3 games. Finish @ Oklahoma so will most likely be 4-14 in conference. Maybe I'll make it to Omaha and try to get a free beer even though the bet wasn't finalized. :)

[D-West & PO-Z]

Miami with a just short of halfcourt shot at buzzer to beat UNC!

[GIMMFD]

Miami with a just short of halfcourt shot at buzzer to beat UNC!

Love it, this season really is madness, might be one of the most fun tournament's in a while. Hoping that it's good for us though.

[GoMuskies]

Iowa st now last in the big 12 by 3 games. Finish @ Oklahoma so will most likely be 4-14 in conference. Maybe I'll make it to Omaha and try to get a free beer even though the bet wasn't finalized. :)

I don't recall any of this. That was clearly some different GoMuskies.

[X-band '01]

Davidson-St. Bonaventure is off the charts. Currently in triple OT with both teams' stars fouled out (in total - 3 Davidson guys fouled out and 4 Bona guys fouled out). Peyton Aldridge had 45 for Davidson and Jaylen Adams 34 for the Bonnies.

[dethwing]

5 Guys (3 Bonnies and 2 from Davidson) hit 30+. 3 of them fouled out. According to kenpom that hasn't happened in at least 5 years.

[xu95]

What Saint Joe's is doing to Rhody right now is illegal in most parts of the world.

I was actually reminded of what we did to St. Joes in the quarters of the A-10 tourney the year they were undefeated and #1. That game was over by halftime. If I remember correctly, that was the year we went to the Final 5.

xu95

[dethwing]

Yes, that was part of the run. We were up by over 30 at one point but let up near the end and 'only' won by 20. Still the record for biggest margin over #1 team by an unranked team. We then played (I think) GW and Dayton to win the A-10 title. 4 games, 4 wins, 4 days.

As cool as that was, it's nothing compared to what Georgia did a few years later. 3 wins in a 30 hour time span. And then they got the 14 seed and lost to us in the first round.

[Juice]

I was actually reminded of what we did to St. Joes in the quarters of the A-10 tourney the year they were undefeated and #1. That game was over by halftime. If I remember correctly, that was the year we went to the Final 5.

xu95

It certainly was and we did that in Dayton in a year UD thought they were good.

[X Factor]

Dayton fans describing their season using only GIF's. :lmao:

https://twitter.com/DavidPJablonski/status/969020494048649221

[bobbiemcgee]

They got pounded by LaSuck @ the Gola garage while we are #3 and winning the BE. Talk about programs heading in different directions!

[X-band '01]

Probably good that Wisconsin won the first quarterfinal - I like their chances of springing an upset against Sparty a lot better than Maryland could.

[smileyy]

They got pounded by LaSuck @ the Gola garage while we are #3 and winning the BE. Talk about programs heading in different directions!

Dayton has a team not a program. They didn't survive losing a good coach (Archie Miller) vs. Xavier thriving with better and better coaches. Mack > Miller > Matta, IMO.

[xu95]

Dayton has a team not a program. They didn't survive losing a good coach (Archie Miller) vs. Xavier thriving with better and better coaches. Mack > Miller > Matta, IMO.

Xavier was definitely at a point for a while where if we made a bad coach hire we were screwed. Luckily we didn't and it sure makes me happy that Dayton did.

xu95

[paulxu]

USC UPState, here in beautiful Spartanburg, SC (home of the Beacon) has a new, young Chancellor (one year on the job).
Heard him speak the other day. Hard charger with a lot of that "vision" stuff.
They just fired their BB coach (one year on job, replaced a guy who had been there a long time) and fired the AD.

[GoMuskies]

Sneaky good game tonight: Western Kentucky (22-7) at Middle Tennessee (23-5 and ranked 24th). Probably a preview of next week's C-USA championship game.

[Snipe]

Can Louisville beat Virginia tonight Go?

That is part of my plan to finish the season ranked number 1

[GoMuskies]

Can Louisville beat Virginia tonight Go?

That is part of my plan to finish the season ranked number 1

Sure they can. They won't, but they can.

[GoMuskies]

Congrats to the Fighting Kelseys for winning the QF in the Big South. 4 point win over Gardner-Webb. Radford is next.

[GIMMFD]

Sure they can. They won't, but they can.

Agreed, I just don't see it happening, would love for it to happen, but just doesn't seem like it, I'm pretty happy if we end up third, but I wouldn't mind finishing 1st either.

[Xville]

I think #1 is going down tonight...dont think it would affect their #1 overall seed but maybe if they lost early in the acc tourney it would.

[BMoreX]

UVA down 8 with 8 to go...

[Snipe]

Choking. Come on

[D-West & PO-Z]

This is unreal. Wow

[Xville]

Sorry I jinxed the heck out of that one. Louisville did so many stupid things the last ten seconds. Unbelievable

[D-West & PO-Z]

Oh. My. God.

[muskiefan82]

Ouch. Poor kid who traveled on the inbounds will need counseling

[paulxu]

Incredible. Cards had the game...gave it away. Just flat out gave it away.

[BMoreX]

Incredible way to lose a game

[X Factor]

I have NEVER seen a worse choke job than the one Louisville just produced!!

Words cannot describe the level of suck that UofL just displayed.

[X Factor]

Ouch. Poor kid who traveled on the inbounds will need counseling

How about the kid that fouled Virginia on a three with UofL up 4 with 0.9 seconds left. Just let him shot a three and game over.

[Snipe]

Only sport can take the greatest achievement of a season on a proud senior night and turn it into one of the worst regular season losses in your long and storied history in .9 seconds.

People with bipolar tendencies should probably not be sports fans.

[Snipe]

Up 4, give up 5 points in .9 seconds.

Incredible

[OTRMUSKIE]

Wow!!!!!!! Padgett just lost his job most likely and Mack might have just found a new one. Did Padgett tell him to foul the shooter? What a joke.

[Snipe]

Wow!!!!!!! Padgett just lost his job most likely and Mack might have just found a new one. Did Padgett tell him to foul the shooter? What a joke.

I texted a friend that I hoped the butterfly effect of that didn't just cost us our coach.

That win would have gone a long way for him

[X Factor]

Wow!!!!!!! Padgett just lost his job most likely and Mack might have just found a new one. Did Padgett tell him to foul the shooter? What a joke.

Absolutely NO WAY Padgett told his player to foul Virginia up 4 under 5 seconds to play.

[GoMuskies]

Wow!!!!!!! Padgett just lost his job most likely and Mack might have just found a new one. Did Padgett tell him to foul the shooter? What a joke.

Padgett had zero shot of getting that job even before tonight's debacle.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Padgett had zero shot of getting that job even before tonight's debacle.

You think so? What if they made a run in the dance?

[STL_XUfan]

Sure they can. They won't, but they can.
This may go down as your most accurate prediction ever.

[OTRMUSKIE]

So if Virginia made the 3rd free throw would Louisville then be able to run the sidelines? After a made basket you’re allowed to.

[X-band '01]

Yes. Virginia committed a lane violation on the 3rd free throw - that meant that the inbounder had to be stationary. Even after the official told Louisville, they still committed a travelling violation.

[X Factor]

Kansas is currently down 17 points to Okie State, 39-22 with 3 min left in first half.

[Snipe]

MSU goes down.

Still bitter about Louisville.

Love to see Kansas go down.

[X-band '01]

Kansas is currently down 17 points to Okie State, 39-22 with 3 min left in first half.

Is it still insane to think that 9 Big 12 teams could make the NCAA field? With Alabama and Arizona State imploding, I'm beginning to think it just might happen if OK State gets a regular-season sweep of Kansas.

[GIMMFD]

Is it still insane to think that 9 Big 12 teams could make the NCAA field? With Alabama and Arizona State imploding, I'm beginning to think it just might happen if OK State gets a regular-season sweep of Kansas.

That is one damn tough conference top to bottom, both conferences (Big 12 and Big East) are blessed to have to go to battle each team, makes us a more ready team in March. I think Okie State gets in if they sweep Kansas as well. I also think Kansas could lose their first game in the Big 12 Tournament. That league is survival of the fittest for sure.

[bobbiemcgee]

Kansas goes down.

[GIMMFD]

Damnit Virginia survives again, looking at the #2 team in the country come Monday

[profson]

X would not have jumped Va had they lost.

[GoMuskies]

Just saw Tulsa up 22-0 on Temple. Ouch.

[Masterofreality]

Congratulations to the Loyola Chicago Ramblers for making the NCAA Tournament for the second time in my LUC daughter’s lifetime!!!

The last time they were in, she was 3. :lmao:

[muskiefan82]

Was that the alfredrick Hughes teams Byron used to have scoring contests with?