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GoMuskies
01-02-2018, 11:21 PM
This may finally be the year someone dethrones KU in the Big 12.

American X
01-03-2018, 07:36 AM
This may finally be the year someone dethrones KU in the Big 12.

Is it so cold because hell froze over?

X Factor
01-04-2018, 10:08 PM
Northern Iowa stinks. Can't believe they gave us a game.

waggy
01-04-2018, 10:12 PM
I think the problem is they shouldn't play X.

XUFan09
01-04-2018, 10:35 PM
I wonder if UNI's psyche has broken after a few losses in a row, or if Kenpom's preseason ranking was accurate and they just had a momentary surge above their level. They were 129 preseason, went as high as 80, and are back to 120. I just want them to be at least a Tier 2 win...

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X Factor
01-04-2018, 10:40 PM
However, Colorado is on the verge of beating ASU!

X Factor
01-04-2018, 10:54 PM
Colorado knocks off ASU in OT!

X could move to a 1 seed and inside the Top 5 in the polls with a win Saturday.

bobbiemcgee
01-04-2018, 11:50 PM
Colorado knocks off ASU in OT!

X could move to a 1 seed and inside the Top 5 in the polls with a win Saturday.

Has to be one of the greatest upsets of the season so far. Should be great for X since we handled CU.

X-band '01
01-05-2018, 12:31 AM
Per ESPN, that is the 11th time this year that an unranked team has beaten a Top 5 team.

X-band '01
01-05-2018, 12:32 AM
UC also won a crazy one in Philly. Fran Dunphy throws a water bottle on the floor in the final 2 minutes of the game and drew a T in the process.

Jacob Evans ended up hitting a game-winner with 0.4 seconds left in that one.

Titanxman04
01-05-2018, 06:56 AM
So does Colorado bearing ASU help or hurt our SOS? Or is it a wash?

Juice
01-05-2018, 08:50 AM
UC also won a crazy one in Philly. Fran Dunphy throws a water bottle on the floor in the final 2 minutes of the game and drew a T in the process.

Jacob Evans ended up hitting a game-winner with 0.4 seconds left in that one.

That game was awwwwwwwful to watch.

GoMuskies
01-05-2018, 09:10 AM
ASU is just reverting to the mean. They're better than they were supposed to be, but they're definitely not one of the 5 best teams in the country. That said, their style of play will be scary in the Tournament. They could lose to anyone and beat anyone depending on their shooting.

GoMuskies
01-05-2018, 09:22 AM
I see that SMU lost at Tulane last night. The American better be careful, or they could find themselves in two bid territory in a hurry. Particularly if UC and Wichita State dominate league play.

XUOHTX
01-05-2018, 10:20 AM
So does Colorado bearing ASU help or hurt our SOS? Or is it a wash?

Like anyone could even know that.

X-band '01
01-05-2018, 10:47 AM
I see that SMU lost at Tulane last night. The American better be careful, or they could find themselves in two bid territory in a hurry. Particularly if UC and Wichita State dominate league play.

Then again, the American has 2 well-defined patsies in East Carolina and South Florida. If everyone beats them up, they'll pad their conference records in a way they wouldn't do as easily in the Big East.

GoMuskies
01-05-2018, 10:56 AM
And they'll get killed in the RPI while doing it.

I was thinking of going to the WSU/South Florida game this Sunday just for kicks. But the cheapest seats I could find on StubHub were over $50. I'm not paying $100 (me and my son) to watch a Brian Gregory coached team lose by 40.

waggy
01-05-2018, 11:42 AM
So does Colorado bearing ASU help or hurt our SOS? Or is it a wash?


Like anyone could even know that.


Actually the RPI Forecast website breaks this down. In terms of RPI SOS Arizona State has the greater weight. The difference is so small though it is effectively a wash.

bjf123
01-05-2018, 12:53 PM
Per ESPN, that is the 11th time this year that an unranked team has beaten a Top 5 team.

Let’s hope we don’t lay an egg and become the 12th on Saturday.


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MuskieXU
01-05-2018, 01:28 PM
So does Colorado bearing ASU help or hurt our SOS? Or is it a wash?

Helps. The committee sorts wins and losses into tiers. Any top 50 loss on a neutral court is a tier one loss, which basically means it doesn’t really hurt you. ASU losing to Colorado doesn’t change that, it’s still a tier 1 loss.

Colorado winning, however, changes that from a tier 3 win to a tier 2 win. Tier 2 wins definitely help your resume in March.

Now at the end of the day is this really moving the needle for Xavier? No, probably not. But it does help their resume a little bit.

XUFan09
01-05-2018, 01:29 PM
Let’s hope we don’t lay an egg and become the 12th on Saturday.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkSeriously. It would be a Tier 1 win, and we're in position to move up to #4, an all-time best for X.

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XUFan09
01-05-2018, 01:37 PM
Helps. The committee sorts wins and losses into tiers. Any top 50 loss on a neutral court is a tier one loss, which basically means it doesn’t really hurt you. ASU losing to Colorado doesn’t change that, it’s still a tier 1 loss.

Colorado winning, however, changes that from a tier 3 win to a tier 2 win. Tier 2 wins definitely help your resume in March.

Now at the end of the day is this really moving the needle for Xavier? No, probably not. But it does help their resume a little bit.

At home, a Tier 3 win is RPI 76-160. In that regard, Colorado's projected RPI hasn't left the Tier 3 range. They were projected 123 before and now they are projected 107 after earning an unlikely win. Sagarin gives only a 14.75% probability of them moving up into Tier 2. It could happen, but more significant would be the fact that Colorado dropping to Tier 4 is now negligible (2.38% per Sagarin).

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GoMuskies
01-05-2018, 01:39 PM
Is the Selection Committee really going to use this Tier bullshit? I already hate it.

XUFan09
01-05-2018, 02:17 PM
Is the Selection Committee really going to use this Tier bullshit? I already hate it.They've always used tiers (1-50, 51-100, etc.). For quite awhile, they've also had supplements of RPI equivalencies for home, neutral, and road games (e.g. Beating an RPI 75 team on the road is equivalent to beating an RPI 25 team at home). All that's new this year is that the team sheets they get explicitly organize these games by their equivalencies.

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paulxu
01-05-2018, 03:24 PM
Is there anywhere that one can check and see how the teams are doing in the tier system up to date?

X-band '01
01-05-2018, 04:34 PM
WarrenNolan.com - Nitty Gritty Page (http://warrennolan.com/basketball/2018/nitty-live)

Ask and you shall receive, Paul.

The right-hand columns have records for each team against the four tiers.

XUFan09
01-05-2018, 07:09 PM
Wisconsin at Rutgers...Am I that starved for basketball content on a Friday that I'm watching this? Yeesh.

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GoMuskies
01-05-2018, 07:31 PM
Wisconsin at Rutgers...Am I that starved for basketball content on a Friday that I'm watching this? Yeesh.

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I bet on it. Go Rutgers!

XUFan09
01-05-2018, 07:37 PM
I bet on it. Go Rutgers!Lol I guess it doesn't matter too much what happens tonight, as Wisconsin is unlikely to leave Tier 2. So, I can enjoy Wisconsin losing.

By the way, for those not watching, the score is 20-19 Rutgers at the last media timeout of the first half...

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GoMuskies
01-05-2018, 08:35 PM
Lol I guess it doesn't matter too much what happens tonight, as Wisconsin is unlikely to leave Tier 2. So, I can enjoy Wisconsin losing.

By the way, for those not watching, the score is 20-19 Rutgers at the last media timeout of the first half...

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I'd be okay with Wisconsin winning by, say,....2 points.

Emp
01-05-2018, 11:13 PM
I still like the eye test when I can get it. Is X really in a bracket with the teams around it in the rankings?

Oklahoma at WV will be a good look on Saturday night. I hate Higgins blah blah, but it's a good looking team with athletes and the trademark D Huggins wants to play. Yet this freshman from Oklahoma. Good look at the best on offer so far this season. Until X at Nova

Grizzx12
01-05-2018, 11:28 PM
Wisconsin at Rutgers...Am I that starved for basketball content on a Friday that I'm watching this? Yeesh.

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I am that starved. Plus, I sort of live in the middle of nowhere so the follow up was more Beam and Oakland/NKU which was much more entertaining

XUFan09
01-05-2018, 11:31 PM
I am that starved. Plus, I sort of live in the middle of nowhere so the follow up was more Beam and Oakland/NKU which was much more entertainingI turned off the Wisconsin game because cleaning the house was more palatable than that, but I forgot to turn the TV back on for the NKU game. It looks like I missed a good one.

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paulxu
01-06-2018, 02:49 PM
Arizona getting clobbered by Colorado in the 1st half.

X-band '01
01-06-2018, 03:45 PM
Arizona getting clobbered by Colorado in the 1st half.

They should just legalize it in Utah and Arizona to level the playing field in the Pac-12.

GoMuskies
01-06-2018, 10:13 PM
Almost party time in Raleigh.

paulxu
01-06-2018, 10:30 PM
Court storm?

paulxu
01-07-2018, 09:48 AM
Fascinating short clip of Miller on his Arizona team.
It almost sounds like he's lost them. Wonder what has happened in that locker room.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/21987261/arizona-wildcats-coach-sean-miller-says-reach-struggling-team

GoMuskies
01-07-2018, 10:16 AM
Fascinating short clip of Miller on his Arizona team.
It almost sounds like he's lost them. Wonder what has happened in that locker room.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/21987261/arizona-wildcats-coach-sean-miller-says-reach-struggling-team

Checks stopped after Book got arrested?

bleedXblue
01-07-2018, 10:16 AM
Fascinating short clip of Miller on his Arizona team.
It almost sounds like he's lost them. Wonder what has happened in that locker room.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/21987261/arizona-wildcats-coach-sean-miller-says-reach-struggling-team

Cue up the........"this is the reason why I left Xavier.........to play in big games, to play in Final 4's"

bleedXblue
01-07-2018, 10:18 AM
Fascinating short clip of Miller on his Arizona team.
It almost sounds like he's lost them. Wonder what has happened in that locker room.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/21987261/arizona-wildcats-coach-sean-miller-says-reach-struggling-team

Maybe take them all for a ride in the Lexus..........get out into the country.........clear their heads.......

waggy
01-07-2018, 11:11 AM
While surfing youtube a week or so ago I watched one of his press conferences preceding the ASU game. A question was asked about the rivalry, and he stated it was nothing like the bloodbath that is the crosstown.

X-band '01
01-07-2018, 11:40 AM
Fascinating short clip of Miller on his Arizona team.
It almost sounds like he's lost them. Wonder what has happened in that locker room.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/21987261/arizona-wildcats-coach-sean-miller-says-reach-struggling-team

Meh. Probably just trying to push a few buttons after the upset at Colorado. If he really can't reach his team, they should not have been able to win at Utah like they did on Thursday.

waggy
01-07-2018, 11:45 AM
Their Pomeroy defensive efficiency rank currently sits at 75. Makes me chuckle right now, but I'm sure they'll get serious on that end of the court eventually.

X Factor
01-07-2018, 06:00 PM
Michigan St. down 20 points to OSU. Second half.

I have to remind myself it's tough to win the road.

Lloyd Braun
01-07-2018, 06:23 PM
Michigan St. down 20 points to OSU. Second half.

I have to remind myself it's tough to win the road.


Hats off to Holtmann too...

Juice
01-07-2018, 07:24 PM
Their Pomeroy defensive efficiency rank currently sits at 75. Makes me chuckle right now, but I'm sure they'll get serious on that end of the court eventually.

Their problem on defense is that they play Ristic and Ayton at the same time.

Lloyd Braun
01-07-2018, 07:25 PM
Their problem on defense is that they play Ristic and Ayton at the same time.

Yes and we have people clamoring for Kanter to start ahead of Kaiser...

X Factor
01-12-2018, 12:12 AM
ASU about to drop a home game to Oregon. Sun Devils will be 1-3 in the Pac-12.

bleedXblue
01-12-2018, 07:45 AM
Yes and we have people clamoring for Kanter to start ahead of Kaiser...

well can you blame them? I mean Kaiser isnt tearing it up and Kanter is scoring at will...........pick your poison. I think ideally Gates is the guy but he seems to reverting to his old self..........

Lloyd Braun
01-12-2018, 07:53 AM
well can you blame them? I mean Kaiser isnt tearing it up and Kanter is scoring at will...........pick your poison. I think ideally Gates is the guy but he seems to reverting to his old self..........

I am not completely opposed to Kanter at the 5. But Kanter at the 4 in place of Gates? We go from bad to worse on defense. Gates will be fine... he’s not getting touches on offense largely because options 1 and 2 aren’t clicking.

X-band '01
01-12-2018, 08:03 AM
ASU about to drop a home game to Oregon. Sun Devils will be 1-3 in the Pac-12.

Arizona didn't exactly have an easy time beating Oregon State at home, either. Would it really be a shock if both Oregon schools get roadkill this weekend?

ArizonaXUGrad
01-12-2018, 12:19 PM
I was at the ASU game and I was surprised with Oregon. Pritchard their guard is neither quick or athletic. He just plays smart and got his points and limited his TOs.
ASU on the other hand had their dribble drive taken away and it disrupted their game. Oregon was good on the boards.


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Lloyd Braun
01-14-2018, 04:36 AM
So Colorado has beaten Arizona, Arizona State, and UCLA (@Pauley).

GoMuskies
01-16-2018, 07:11 PM
Is this finally the night?!?

#20 Clemson at #15 UNC

X-band '01
01-16-2018, 07:50 PM
Is this finally the night?!?

#12 Cincinnati (15) at Central Florida (19)

The night we all turn to stone? Yes.

xu82
01-16-2018, 07:55 PM
The night we all turn to stone? Yes.


I’d better drink up, this might hurt! Or were you talking about a little blue pill? Either way, I’ll have another glass...

GIMMFD
01-16-2018, 08:14 PM
So Colorado has beaten Arizona, Arizona State, and UCLA (@Pauley).

They sure do like helping our resume, go Buffs.

Xville
01-16-2018, 09:35 PM
Louisville just won at Notre dame. Maybe Padgett is the answer there, and that job won't be available this summer.

GoMuskies
01-16-2018, 09:46 PM
Louisville just won at Notre dame. Maybe Padgett is the answer there, and that job won't be available this summer.

They'd have to be insane to give Padgett that job.

GIMMFD
01-16-2018, 11:44 PM
They'd have to be insane to give Padgett that job.

Eh depends when the sanctions come down, if they do, at least they know they'll have something secure with Padgett for a few years to tide over, would show loyalty, and could be a decent hire, if they start to decline, then they could fire him for reasonable cause and get a candidate working there without sanctions aka whoever they basically want.

Side note, South Carolina beating Georgia and Kentucky back to back, a lot of parity in college ball this year.

GoMuskies
01-16-2018, 11:54 PM
Padgett has never even been a lead assistant before this year. You don't parlay his "resume" into one if the best jobs in college basketball. He's done a pretty decent job this year (particularly of late). Kevin Ollie did okay with Jim Calhoun's players, too.

They'll have a line out the door of candidates more qualified than Padgett come late March.

Xville
01-17-2018, 05:47 AM
They'd have to be insane to give Padgett that job.

If he can recruit, which I think it would be difficult for anyone right now, why Not? He has now accomplished two things Pitino couldn't...win against a ranked conference foe on the road (the Leonard hamiltons) and at Notre dame. Depends how the rest of the season plays out, but up to this point, he's done a good job in a horrible situation.

RyanblockXU
01-17-2018, 09:38 AM
Don’t ask me why but I watched the UC and UCF game last night.

What a shit show.

But one thing I wish Trevon would do that Jacob Evans seems to do, is not let his bad shooting affect other parts of his game.

Evans was 3-14 and was garbage on offense for most of the night but on defense he played like he scored 30 points. A chase down block, a basket saving steal and just overall elite effort.


When Tre is in slumps offensively, I’d like to see him try a little harder at the other things in basketball.

It’s why Evans is going to get drafted ahead of blueitt even though we’d nrver trade Tre for him

nuts4xu
01-17-2018, 10:42 AM
It’s why Evans is going to get drafted ahead of blueitt even though we’d nrver trade Tre for him

I’ll bet you a case of beer that won’t happen.

bleedXblue
01-17-2018, 11:03 AM
I’ll bet you a case of beer that won’t happen.

I don't see NBA players in either of them

Go play in Europe......

drudy23
01-17-2018, 11:31 AM
Evans is by far the superior athlete.

Tre is by far the better basketball player.

RyanblockXU
01-17-2018, 12:15 PM
I’ll bet you a case of beer that won’t happen.

I don’t want to bet against a XU player but I’ll take this bet.

Evans is 6’6 with a 40” vertical
TB is 6’5 with maybe a 30 inch vertical

Evans is an elite defender per synergy
Tb is below average or average on that end

Evans is just a jr and already on every nba draft board
TB wasn’t as a jr

Tb is shooting over 40% for the first time in the career
Evans is doing so this year and last year

Evans can play point guard and is a really good play maker and leads his team in assists
Tb can pass well but not in the same way Evans can.


I think Tb is a pretty college player and I’d draft him ahead of Evans for a college team but the reality is TB’s best position is the 4 and at the nba level he could never be a 4. He’d have to be a 2 and he isn’t athletic enough.


Evans is the protypical nba 3 & D guy. He can play the 1, 2 or 3 and guard all those positions.


I just don’t see a position for Tre in the nba.



I mean I hope I’m wrong though

RyanblockXU
01-17-2018, 12:20 PM
Evans is by far the superior athlete.

Tre is by far the better basketball player.

That’s a bold statement.

Basketball is a 2 way game and more than just scoring. I don’t think Tre does anything better other than scoring.


I’ll go with Tre is a better scorer and alpha. That’s true.

But better basketball player Is a huge stretch and very few numbers would support that

XUFan09
01-17-2018, 05:45 PM
That’s a bold statement.

Basketball is a 2 way game and more than just scoring. I don’t think Tre does anything better other than scoring.


I’ll go with Tre is a better scorer and alpha. That’s true.

But better basketball player Is a huge stretch and very few numbers would support thatTrevon is a good system defender, and anyway, individual offense matters A LOT more than individual defense. Let's also not act like Evans is on his way to one day winning NBA Defensive Player of the Year.

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GIMMFD
01-17-2018, 06:12 PM
Padgett has never even been a lead assistant before this year. You don't parlay his "resume" into one if the best jobs in college basketball. He's done a pretty decent job this year (particularly of late). Kevin Ollie did okay with Jim Calhoun's players, too.

They'll have a line out the door of candidates more qualified than Padgett come late March.

I was arguing for arguing sake of course, but I mean Kevin Ollie also parlayed that year to a contract, granted you're kind of insane to fire a NC coach, and that's a completely different situation. I figured a lot of coaches would be a bit hesitant if they know they're going to have limited scholarships, and post-season bans. That's a pretty hard situation to sell, even looking at mercenary one and done recruits, they still want exposure and to be seen, and March Madness is a huge part of that.

RyanblockXU
01-18-2018, 11:36 AM
Trevon is a good system defender, and anyway, individual offense matters A LOT more than individual defense. Let's also not act like Evans is on his way to one day winning NBA Defensive Player of the Year.

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Sure. but he has a role in the NBA as a 3 & D guy. Its a hugely valuable role off the bench for winning teams.


The NBA doesn't play a zone that can hide Tre on defense. He will have to guard a SG or SF that is most likely uber athletic and much quicker than him.


Evans gets the opposing teams best defender, Tre does as well.

But on defense, They put Evans on the best player and they put TB on the worst or try to hide him in the zone.


Again, I'll take Tre all damn day when it comes to college basketball but in the NBA and in a league where fit is so important, I personally would choose Evans to fill that role.


Lets be 100% clear, neither are super stars or starters or even 25 minute a game guys in the NBA, so knowing that, you have to pick the one who fills the best role.

NBA draft boards all agree with me for the most part as well.

XUFan09
01-18-2018, 11:41 AM
Sure. but he has a role in the NBA as a 3 & D guy. Its a hugely valuable role off the bench for winning teams.


The NBA doesn't play a zone that can hide Tre on defense. He will have to guard a SG or SF that is most likely uber athletic and much quicker than him.


Evans gets the opposing teams best defender, Tre does as well.

But on defense, They put Evans on the best player and they put TB on the worst or try to hide him in the zone.


Again, I'll take Tre all damn day when it comes to college basketball but in the NBA and in a league where fit is so important, I personally would choose Evans to fill that role.


Lets be 100% clear, neither are super stars or starters or even 25 minute a game guys in the NBA, so knowing that, you have to pick the one who fills the best role.

NBA draft boards all agree with me for the most part as well.My bad, I missed the post that this was about the NBA potential. Yeah, Evans has a more defined role in the NBA than Bluiett. I could still see Bluiett's draft chances being higher, though, because Evans needs to be more assertive and that's a harder trait to develop than some others.

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ArizonaXUGrad
01-18-2018, 12:11 PM
Style and talent of a players and ceiling matter in the NBA draft but so does motor on the court. A Frank Mason on the Kings still surprises me. Small but quick and can shoot a bit.


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RyanblockXU
01-18-2018, 04:20 PM
Style and talent of a players and ceiling matter in the NBA draft but so does motor on the court. A Frank Mason on the Kings still surprises me. Small but quick and can shoot a bit.


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I’m a Xavier fan . But I’m also a huge college basketball fan and watch a ton of games.

Not having a motor is not the way to describe Jacob Evans. He is 2nd on UC In blocked shots and had an insane chase down block in the UCF.


You can’t be a great defender and have a low motor.

And again, we’re talking nba. Evans nor TB will be stars. So not being a ball hog on offense is going to be what most teams are asking from it’s role player.


Any way, the point of this post is, I wish Tre found a way to play really hard even when his shots don’t fall

bleedXblue
01-18-2018, 04:40 PM
I’m a Xavier fan . But I’m also a huge college basketball fan and watch a ton of games.

Not having a motor is not the way to describe Jacob Evans. He is 2nd on UC In blocked shots and had an insane chase down block in the UCF.


You can’t be a great defender and have a low motor.

And again, we’re talking nba. Evans nor TB will be stars. So not being a ball hog on offense is going to be what most teams are asking from it’s role player.


Any way, the point of this post is, I wish Tre found a way to play really hard even when his shots don’t fall

Yeah its kind of hard to complain about a 2,000+ point scorer, but Tre has always been a bit of a prima donna. Hes not scrappy like JP and lets his play (good or bad) affect him at times more than it should

Grizzx12
01-18-2018, 10:30 PM
Random game to watch but I love NCAA basketball and saw Michigan was at Nebraska. Wow has Nebraska played some intense defense!! Mostly man but they don't bite on pump fakes or leave shooters on drives and are really doing a great job stripping the ball when Michigan gets into traffic. Michigan seems lost and are forcing shots down 28-45 with 12 min left. If we could match this intensity on defense we'd be AP top 5

GoMuskies
01-18-2018, 10:31 PM
St. Johns beat Nebraska by about 50.

Juice
01-18-2018, 11:55 PM
I’m a Xavier fan . But I’m also a huge college basketball fan and watch a ton of games.

Not having a motor is not the way to describe Jacob Evans. He is 2nd on UC In blocked shots and had an insane chase down block in the UCF.


You can’t be a great defender and have a low motor.

And again, we’re talking nba. Evans nor TB will be stars. So not being a ball hog on offense is going to be what most teams are asking from it’s role player.


Any way, the point of this post is, I wish Tre found a way to play really hard even when his shots don’t fall

I think a better way to describe him would be that he isn't assertive enough sometimes on the offensive end.

X-band '01
01-19-2018, 12:06 AM
St. Johns beat Nebraska by about 50.

That was also a healthy St. John's team back in November. Nebraska's done all their damage at home.

Masterofreality
01-19-2018, 12:32 PM
I think a better way to describe him would be that he isn't assertive enough sometimes on the offensive end.

Maybe it's just that the troll who "coaches" him is a lousy motivator who has no clue on to how to get the most out of his guys? Prolly

X-band '01
01-20-2018, 11:10 AM
The government shutdown has necessitated Air Force to cancel all their interscholastic sporting events until the shutdown is resolved. They'll try to make them up if it's a short shutdown, but is not guaranteed to happen if this shutdown drags on for a couple of weeks.

Navy will play their home game against Boston U today; no word yet on whether Army would play Lehigh at home.

GoMuskies
01-20-2018, 11:15 AM
That's not great for the recruiting pitch of academy coaches.

X-band '01
01-20-2018, 11:18 AM
I don't think Patriot League coaches really use that against Army and Navy, but Air Force has always been difficult since they actually play in a major conference in the Mountain West.

Gary Parrish also wrote about the Air Force job a few years ago as well: (https://t.co/Su5V4Mg2t1)

X Factor
01-20-2018, 02:08 PM
Wichita State loses again, 59-73 at Houston.

GoMuskies
01-20-2018, 03:41 PM
Wichita State loses again, 59-73 at Houston.

SMU was unconscious against them Wednesday night. Today they just played like shit.

Lloyd Braun
01-20-2018, 08:02 PM
Would be nice if Baylor can hang on here...

GoMuskies
01-20-2018, 08:04 PM
Would be nice if Baylor can hang on here...

Would be nice on several fronts.

Lloyd Braun
01-20-2018, 08:07 PM
Refs not doing Baylor any favors that’s for sure.

Lloyd Braun
01-20-2018, 08:15 PM
Reminder not to pick Baylor to advance in tournament if they make it.

GoMuskies
01-20-2018, 08:16 PM
Well that sucked. KU is definitely not scaring anyone this year, though.

paulxu
01-20-2018, 10:06 PM
Went to Wofford game tonight.
Great games because the teams are generally matched up, and play with a lot of intensity.
They were playing Chattanooga.
Imagine my surprise when Makinde London went into the game.

GoMuskies
01-20-2018, 10:45 PM
Kentucky loses two in a row? What a wonderful day!

bjf123
01-21-2018, 09:34 AM
Imagine my surprise when Makinde London went into the game.

How’d he do?


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X-band '01
01-21-2018, 10:08 AM
Good news was that he scored 20 points and 3 rebounds in 26 minutes - he had missed the previous 3 games because of an ankle injury.

Bad news is that Chattanooga is way down this year - they're 4-14 against D-I opponents and 0-7 in the SoCon.

paulxu
01-21-2018, 06:49 PM
He looked smooth, especially coming off injury.
Could have probably used X's conditioning program to put on 20 lbs to be more effective.
Hell, I forget why he even left.

Grizzx12
01-23-2018, 09:14 PM
Has anyone seen Virginia play this year? I can't imagine it's the most exciting style to watch but I need to catch one and see what the hell they do. Held Clemson who averages 77 a game to 36 points and only 13 in the final 26.5 minutes?

GIMMFD
01-23-2018, 10:29 PM
Has anyone seen Virginia play this year? I can't imagine it's the most exciting style to watch but I need to catch one and see what the hell they do. Held Clemson who averages 77 a game to 36 points and only 13 in the final 26.5 minutes?

I watched them play WVU, they're the typical Virginia team that clamps down defensively and take long possession times which plays into things. They don't really have a bonafide super star, and if they get down some, they're going to be in trouble due to offensive woes.

Nigel Tufnel
01-25-2018, 08:47 PM
Watching the 2nd half of this Purdue/Mich game. My goodness. Both teams shooting around 70% in 2nd half. Purdue has some dude that looks like a 10 foot Ivan Drago. I may have to look at putting $10 on Purdue to win the tourney. They are stacked.

paulxu
01-25-2018, 08:59 PM
They're #2 in KenPom behind Nova for a reason.

Nigel Tufnel
01-25-2018, 09:22 PM
They're #2 in KenPom behind Nova for a reason.

How does KenPom explain how they lost to Tennessee and Western Kentucky back to back? Wow.

Watching Colorado/Arizona. Arizona has a bunch of monsters and 3 point shooters. Looking at their players...have no idea how they have lost 4 games. They lost to Colorado on the road and are currently tied at half with Colorado at home. Crazy. Didn't X beat Colorado within an inch of their lives?

paulxu
01-25-2018, 09:43 PM
I don't know how they lost those games. One by 3 pts, one by 4.

But they turned around the next game and beat Arizona by 25.

X Factor
01-25-2018, 10:49 PM
Just started watch Cal vs UCLA and I hear Gus Johnson and Bill Rafferty calling the game.

MauriceX
01-25-2018, 11:42 PM
Has anyone seen Virginia play this year? I can't imagine it's the most exciting style to watch but I need to catch one and see what the hell they do. Held Clemson who averages 77 a game to 36 points and only 13 in the final 26.5 minutes?

Crazy stats about the amazingness of UVA's defense: (Using Kenpom's defensive efficiency rankings)

The difference between the best defense in the country (UVA - 81.5) and the tenth best defense (Purdue - 91.5) is 10 points per 100 possessions. That is the same separation between the 10th best defense (Purdue) and the 120th best defense (LSU - 101.5).

They are also currently the best defense ever in the Kenpom era, beating out the Memphis team from 2009 by 2.7 points per 100 possessions. (84.2)

MauriceX
01-25-2018, 11:49 PM
Crazy stats about the amazingness of UVA's defense: (Using Kenpom's defensive efficiency rankings)

The difference between the best defense in the country (UVA - 81.5) and the tenth best defense (Purdue - 91.5) is 10 points per 100 possessions. That is the same separation between the 10th best defense (Purdue) and the 120th best defense (LSU - 101.5).

They are also currently the best defense ever in the Kenpom era, beating out the Memphis team from 2009 by 2.7 points per 100 possessions. (84.2)

Unrelated but I still found it interesting - this year UC has the 4th best defense ever in the Kenpom era, at 84.6 points per 100 possessions.

(1st - 2017 UVA, 2nd - 2009 Memphis, 3rd - 2015 Kentucky, 4th 2017 UC)

It's probably a little better than it should be because of their easier schedule, but hey, we can say we put up 89 points against the one of the best defenses of the past 16 years.

X-band '01
01-26-2018, 12:04 AM
I don't know how they lost those games. One by 3 pts, one by 4.

But they turned around the next game and beat Arizona by 25.

Atlantis was Bizarro World for Arizona and Purdue this year. I can't explain it.

ArizonaXUGrad
01-26-2018, 12:25 AM
Atlantis was Bizarro World for Arizona and Purdue this year. I can't explain it.

Rawle Alkins was hurt. He is their best defender on a team of crappy defenders. When he returned they turned a corner. ASU lost again at home to Utah. They have issues when their 3s don’t fall.


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bobbiemcgee
01-26-2018, 12:39 AM
OSU loses at home to Penn State in classic fashion.

GIMMFD
01-26-2018, 12:54 AM
OSU loses at home to Penn State in classic fashion.

Something about Ohio State losing really brings me joy, maybe it was having to deal with their college football fans for 4 years at X, but I can just genuinely say I've never really liked them much.

Juice
01-26-2018, 07:11 AM
Good showing in the American last night with SMU losing to UConn and USF beating Tulane.

And ASU lost again.

paulxu
01-26-2018, 08:09 AM
Something about Ohio State losing really brings me joy, maybe it was having to deal with their college football fans for 4 years at X, but I can just genuinely say I've never really liked them much.

I see some things haven't changed in the last 50 years.

X-band '01
01-26-2018, 08:09 AM
Uh Oh, UConn (http://m.ctpost.com/sports/jeffjacobs/article/Jeff-Jacobs-NCAA-investigating-UConn-men-12526964.php?utm_campaign=twitter-mobile&utm_source=CMS%20Sharing%20Button&utm_medium=social)

Part of me wants to think UConn is hoping they get busted so they have a valid excuse to clean house.

Lamont Sanford
01-26-2018, 08:09 AM
Something about Ohio State losing really brings me joy, maybe it was having to deal with their college football fans for 4 years at X, but I can just genuinely say I've never really liked them much.

+1. Dick Nose Liar.

UCGRAD4X
01-26-2018, 09:42 AM
+1. Dick Nose Liar.

+2.

Oh how I hate,
Ohio State!
(author unknown - but I'm sure he was very intelligent and one heck of a poet)

Unfortunately, both my god-daughter and the son of one of my best friend went there. Which, I guess is not too surprising since so many here do.

And, I thought it was Beak Nosed Liar. Either way works for me.

ArizonaXUGrad
01-26-2018, 11:13 AM
Asu is really crapping the bed right now. Those guards just want to chuck threes and jumpers. They actually out rebounded Utah and still lost. If the away doesn’t go their way they are in even worse shape.
Colorado at home isn’t a gimme right now also.


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Emp
01-26-2018, 11:15 AM
OSU loses at home to Penn State in classic fashion.

Attended this game. It's why I love college basketball. A really well played game, bang bang ending. What is amazing is all the empty seats. OSU is playing attractive winning basketball. Couldn't even sell out for Michigan State, maybe 12-13K for this game. Has CBB attendance peaked?

X-band '01
01-26-2018, 11:29 AM
Asu is really crapping the bed right now. Those guards just want to chuck threes and jumpers. They actually out rebounded Utah and still lost. If the away doesn’t go their way they are in even worse shape.
Colorado at home isn’t a gimme right now also.


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They had a 3-point lead late in regulation and chose not to foul Utah. Needless to say, they got burned.

But if you want to see an even more spectacular late-game meltdown, Google Mike Davis and Texas Southern. They had a 3-point lead in similar fashion, but they fouled an Arkansas-Pine Bluff player in the process. Mike Davis got a technical for arguing the foul and Texas Southern ended up losing by 2 at home.

GoMuskies
01-26-2018, 01:58 PM
Tom Izzo won't last the season at Michigan State. Maybe not even the weekend.

http://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/22214566/pattern-denial-inaction-information-suppression-michigan-state-goes-larry-nassar-case-espn


Even if Izzo survives, which I doubt in this climate, Dantonio is gone. Should be packing yesterday.

bobbiemcgee
01-26-2018, 02:02 PM
And ASU lost again.

Maybe they'll finally fall out of the Top 25 with a 3-5 conf. mark.

XUFan09
01-26-2018, 02:58 PM
Maybe they'll finally fall out of the Top 25 with a 3-5 conf. mark.And some people were all uppity because Kenpom ranked them in the teens and twenties lol.

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Xville
01-26-2018, 03:08 PM
Tom Izzo won't last the season at Michigan State. Maybe not even the weekend.

http://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/22214566/pattern-denial-inaction-information-suppression-michigan-state-goes-larry-nassar-case-espn


Even if Izzo survives, which I doubt in this climate, Dantonio is gone. Should be packing yesterday.

And he shouldn't survive...actually thought Izzo was one of the good ones, but now I'm just going to assume that all coaches are complete dirtbags at this level until proven otherwise.

XU3232
01-26-2018, 03:49 PM
Izzo will survive this.

GIMMFD
01-26-2018, 05:36 PM
I would not want to be any way affiliated with Michigan State right now, they basically said hold my beer to Louisville.

GoMuskies
01-26-2018, 05:44 PM
Michigan State plays at home tonight.....Awkward!

X-band '01
01-26-2018, 06:25 PM
Reading that Michigan State students are going to be wearing teal in solidarity with the Nassar survivors:

IZZONE for Awareness and Healing (https://www.gofundme.com/izzone-for-awareness-and-healing)

This was also set up before the OTL report that ESPN put on their webpage.

X-man
01-27-2018, 04:49 PM
Watching the end of the UVa-Duke game reminds me again how much I hate Grayson Allen and Coach K. They did their best to steal the game from the Wahoos. Fortunately the refs weren't buying it...for once.

paulxu
01-27-2018, 05:33 PM
I'd like to play Duke just to watch both of them start crying when JP got within 20 feet.

xavierj
01-28-2018, 11:53 AM
ETSU has now won 14 of 15 and 11 straight since Xavier, after winning at Wofford by 13 last night. Now in top 60 of both RPI and Kenpom.

X-band '01
01-28-2018, 12:21 PM
Their toughest games remaining are at UNC-Greensboro and home games against Wofford and Furman. Win those three and they're likely running the table in the SoCon.

Masterofreality
01-28-2018, 03:32 PM
ETSU has now won 14 of 15 and 11 straight since Xavier, after winning at Wofford by 13 last night. Now in top 60 of both RPI and Kenpom.

ETSU is really good. They're gonna knock somebody off in the Dance.

That win just looks better and better.

Masterofreality
01-28-2018, 03:37 PM
By the way. The A10 has a LOT of Tom Gola Garage/ Carnesecca Arena-esque buildings.

GIMMFD
01-28-2018, 05:08 PM
ETSU is really good. They're gonna knock somebody off in the Dance.

That win just looks better and better.

Anything to help the resume and get our seeding as high as possible.

X-band '01
01-30-2018, 01:34 PM
I'm hearing that the Pac-12 will join the B1G, ACC and SEC as far as a 20-game conference schedule for next season.

muskiefan82
01-30-2018, 01:48 PM
I'm hearing that the Pac-12 will join the B1G, ACC and SEC as far as a 20-game conference schedule for next season.

They REALLY want to avoid those non-conference matchups as much as possible, don't they?

Lloyd Braun
01-30-2018, 11:11 PM
Baylor crapped the bed. Missed front end of 1-and-1 down a point with 4 seconds left.

Lloyd Braun
01-30-2018, 11:13 PM
Vanderbilt loose ball foul 70 feet from basket (with 2 pt lead) with 2 seconds left at UK. Now OT. ugh.

X-band '01
01-30-2018, 11:23 PM
#AnchorFrown

X-band '01
01-31-2018, 07:36 PM
Houston 33, Cincinnati 15 at the 7-minute mark in the 1st half. UC hasn't been down this much since,

You know.

muskiefan82
01-31-2018, 07:38 PM
Houston 33, Cincinnati 15 at the 7-minute mark in the 1st half. UC hasn't been down this much since,

You know.

They're getting run off their, I mean nku's, court.

I take it back. They have decided to show up

paulxu
02-01-2018, 09:42 AM
State schools apparently have a lot of extra cash lying around:


Hurley now will receive a raise of $700,000 to $2.1 million this July and a signing bonus of $700,000 within 45 days of the contract's approval by the Arizona Board of Regents. He will receive raises of $100,000 in 2019 and 2020 and $200,000 in 2021.

Hurley also will get a $1 million retention bonus on Jan. 1, 2022.

Hurley is in his third season with the Sun Devils, compiling a 46-40 record.

This season, Arizona State is 16-5 but only 4-5 in the Pac-12, which is eighth place.

2 year losing record before this year, still not above .500 in conference play, and you get this. Are they afraid someone wants him?

GIMMFD
02-01-2018, 03:41 PM
State schools apparently have a lot of extra cash lying around:



2 year losing record before this year, still not above .500 in conference play, and you get this. Are they afraid someone wants him?

I think after how bad they botched the football hiring with Herm Edwards, they decided Hurley may be pretty damn good and decided not to screw that up.. only logical viewpoint I see here.

paulxu
02-01-2018, 09:38 PM
Jeff Borzello ESPN Staff Writer

Wichita State is still the only top-25 team without an RPI Group 1 win.

X-band '01
02-02-2018, 12:16 AM
They won't be Top 25 much longer if they keep losing games like this.

bleedXblue
02-02-2018, 08:14 AM
I think after how bad they botched the football hiring with Herm Edwards, they decided Hurley may be pretty damn good and decided not to screw that up.. only logical viewpoint I see here.

Hurley is not sticking around at ASU. He's an east coast guy. He'll be back at UCONN, UL or any other number of good jobs that are going to open up in the next 2-3 years.

GIMMFD
02-02-2018, 03:29 PM
Hurley is not sticking around at ASU. He's an east coast guy. He'll be back at UCONN, UL or any other number of good jobs that are going to open up in the next 2-3 years.

Eh I didn't really think he'd be there very long either, but it is a good step to a resume builder. I think ASU wanted to show he's valued, that way he only jumps to a higher tier job, rather than taking a lateral step?

Masterofreality
02-02-2018, 09:05 PM
State schools apparently have a lot of extra cash lying around:



2 year losing record before this year, still not above .500 in conference play, and you get this. Are they afraid someone wants him?

And they have fallen off the table since New Years. As we have said many times on this Board, don't bet on teams that rely on 3 point shooting later in the season. Are you listening Marquette?

XUFan09
02-02-2018, 11:15 PM
And they have fallen off the table since New Years. As we have said many times on this Board, don't bet on teams that rely on 3 point shooting later in the season. Are you listening Marquette?Well, there hasn't really been much of a drop in offensive efficiency for either ASU or Marquette. Their defenses just suck.

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Juice
02-02-2018, 11:55 PM
Well, there hasn't really been much of a drop in offensive efficiency for either ASU or Marquette. Their defenses just suck.

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Villanova is also slightly behind Marquette in % of points scored from behind the arc.

X-band '01
02-03-2018, 12:50 PM
Kansas has such a domination over the Big 12 that they're practically giving a game away at home to help Oklahoma State make the NCAA field.

X-band '01
02-03-2018, 02:13 PM
Kansas goes down at home to Oklahoma State. A Xavier win tonight would put them no worse than #5 next week.

GIMMFD
02-03-2018, 02:25 PM
Kansas goes down at home to Oklahoma State. A Xavier win tonight would put them no worse than #5 next week.

St. John's up 3 with 20 seconds left on Duke... could be 4th..

bjf123
02-03-2018, 02:27 PM
Way to go Johnnies!


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GIMMFD
02-03-2018, 02:28 PM
Way to go Johnnies!


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As Pat McAfee would say, GOOD FOR THE BRAND

Juice
02-03-2018, 03:34 PM
Kansas goes down at home to Oklahoma State. A Xavier win tonight would put them no worse than #5 next week.

Kansas is behind us in the polls. Now the Duke loss matters...

GoMuskies
02-03-2018, 03:39 PM
Kansas is behind us in the polls. Now the Duke loss matters...

Ah yes, forgot we still need Michigan State to lose, but I feel like they may get an in-season death penalty, so they may not matter.

X-band '01
02-03-2018, 03:43 PM
Indiana in Assembly Hall isn't a picnic, though.

Unless they're playing in-state mid majors.

murray87
02-03-2018, 03:44 PM
Hurley is not sticking around at ASU. He's an east coast guy. He'll be back at UCONN, UL or any other number of good jobs that are going to open up in the next 2-3 years.

Yes, Bobby Hurley is the guy for the Louisville job whenever it becomes available!

xu82
02-03-2018, 03:52 PM
Yes, Bobby Hurley is the guy for the Louisville job whenever it becomes available!

I vote YES, for various reasons. OK, it’s ONE reason.

Juice
02-03-2018, 04:11 PM
Yes, Bobby Hurley is the guy for the Louisville job whenever it becomes available!

I saw someone mention Kevin Willard because he was an assistant there from 2001 to 2007.

GoMuskies
02-03-2018, 04:13 PM
I saw someone mention Kevin Willard because he was an assistant there from 2001 to 2007.

Pitino guys aren't getting that job. Louisville just shitcanned Tom Jurich's kid yesterday. They're cleaning house.

Xville
02-03-2018, 04:56 PM
Duke and kentucky lost on the same day! Oh happy day! Couldn't have happened to two more obnoxious programs

GoMuskies
02-03-2018, 05:35 PM
Duke and kentucky lost on the same day! Oh happy day! Couldn't have happened to two more obnoxious programs

Don't forget KU. Also obnoxious and also lost.

GIMMFD
02-03-2018, 08:47 PM
Don't forget KU. Also obnoxious and also lost.

And we won, what a great day. Wish Rutgers would have pulled it out, but rooting for Indiana to somehow clip Michigan State tonight.

bobbiemcgee
02-03-2018, 11:21 PM
How 'bout dem flyers....

https://twitter.com/DavidPJablonski/status/959902947424526344

GoMuskies
02-04-2018, 12:36 AM
Arizona loses on a last second 3. Darn.

Masterofreality
02-04-2018, 05:21 PM
The only thing that could have made yesterday any more perfect would have been......you know. #ALosingLeprechaun

xudash
02-04-2018, 05:56 PM
How 'bout dem flyers....

https://twitter.com/DavidPJablonski/status/959902947424526344

Nothing personal against Anthony Grant, but I hope he makes UD fans long for the days of Gregory. But of course, you know, because of their fan support and that 1969 arena, they'll still go into full VD DELUSION mode and believe they're a hoops force that deserves to be on top.

They're problem is that they can barely top a program like LossSalle.

GIMMFD
02-05-2018, 11:24 PM
WVU holds off Oklahoma tonight, also, I get Trae Young is really really good, but anybody else getting sick of ESPN's love fest with him?? Is it necessary to have his stat line on television THE ENTIRE GAME??

powerofX
02-05-2018, 11:47 PM
WVU holds off Oklahoma tonight, also, I get Trae Young is really really good, but anybody else getting sick of ESPN's love fest with him?? Is it necessary to have his stat line on television THE ENTIRE GAME??

Yes! So sick of it. His stat line had 0 assists up until 2 mins left. Also, there is now a half assed article that reads like a tweet that says he was sick. Guess it was an illness that targeted passing but not shooting.

Michigan Muskie
02-06-2018, 07:33 AM
WVU holds off Oklahoma tonight, also, I get Trae Young is really really good, but anybody else getting sick of ESPN's love fest with him?? Is it necessary to have his stat line on television THE ENTIRE GAME??

Are you suggesting that ESPN would unnecessarily sensationalize sports? Of all the nerve.

Cheesehead
02-06-2018, 01:20 PM
ESPN should really take him out to dinner and get his some flowers and a box of chocolates. Just be honest about it.

GoMuskies
02-06-2018, 01:24 PM
I'll be honest about it...the only reason I'm ever watching a fucking Oklahoma game is to see what crazy ass things Trae Young is going to do. So I'm fine with their coverage. I wouldn't mind it being MORE over the top really.

GoMuskies
02-06-2018, 01:41 PM
As Louisville's season slides further into disaster (4 of last 5 were losses and their last five are vs. UNC, @Duke, @VPI, vs. UVA, @ NC State), their fans are more and more turning their attention to Chris Mack, so there will be more of that to look forward to. In our favor, there' s ton of upheaval at the UofL these days, with a currently incredibly unpopular interim President having hired a complete novice interim AD (giving him the 8th largest salary of any AD in the country) to name a complete novice interim basketball coach. Last week, the interim AD (who played baseball at hated rival UK) fired the old AD's son (who was an All-American baseball player at Louisville) and two other "loyalists" to the old AD. Now it turns out that the UofL Board of Trustees screwed up the formalities of how to run Board meetings under Kentucky law, including in meetings related to the fate of Tom Jurich (the AD) and Rick Pitino, making the mess even messier. The best news for us is that very little of this mess can get cleaned up in the next two months, so whoever the new Louisville coach is going to be will have to decide that $4 million a year makes it worth walking into a situation with an interim AD, an interim President, no recruiting class, a pissed off fan base (who is, for the first time in about 50 years, not showing up for home basketball games) and serious NCAA sanctions a looming near-certainty.

Have fun with that.

paulxu
02-06-2018, 02:38 PM
I'll be honest about it...the only reason I'm ever watching a fucking Oklahoma game is to see what crazy ass things Trae Young is going to do. So I'm fine with their coverage. I wouldn't mind it being MORE over the top really.

He is currently leading the nation in both PPG and APG.
I don't believe any player in history has ever finished the season leading those 2 categories.
So, there is that.

X-band '01
02-06-2018, 02:57 PM
I'll be honest about it...the only reason I'm ever watching a fucking Oklahoma game is to see what crazy ass things Trae Young is going to do. So I'm fine with their coverage. I wouldn't mind it being MORE over the top really.

I agree. The Trae Young coverage saved us from Duke-UNC overkill for almost a week.

smileyy
02-06-2018, 03:12 PM
That's got to really suck for the city of Louisville paying off the KFC Yum! arena. I'm sure they were counting on bankrolling a successful team instead of a garbage fire. That was such an awful deal for the city.

GoMuskies
02-06-2018, 09:11 PM
So Kentucky lost to Tennessee at home today. At this point, it's not outside the realm of possibility that Louisville and Kentucky could face off in the NIT.

GIMMFD
02-06-2018, 10:00 PM
So Kentucky lost to Tennessee at home today. At this point, it's not outside the realm of possibility that Louisville and Kentucky could face off in the NIT.

You don't think the committee will take Kentucky just because of their name do you? I mean they're still flirting top 25, I agree they have work to do and need to piece it together quickly, but I see your point, no really impressive wins since the WVU win doesn't look as pretty now, lost both to Tennessee, lost to UCLA, lost to Kansas, Missouri, South Carolina and Florida...

bigdiggins
02-06-2018, 10:57 PM
I would bet you a beer they don't make the NIT this year, but I assume being in Wichita you don't make it to the cintas for many games?

Iowa st. in last place in the Big 12 through 10 games. 12-10 overall.

xavierj
02-06-2018, 11:25 PM
You don't think the committee will take Kentucky just because of their name do you? I mean they're still flirting top 25, I agree they have work to do and need to piece it together quickly, but I see your point, no really impressive wins since the WVU win doesn't look as pretty now, lost both to Tennessee, lost to UCLA, lost to Kansas, Missouri, South Carolina and Florida...

Kentucky is 6-5 in the SEC. They now go to A&M and Auburn and still play at Arkansas, and Florida with Home games with Missouri and Alabama. They might end up with a losing conference record. Top that with Cal not getting the best players for next year, and most of his guys wanting to bolt to the NBA, KY fans must be thrilled.

GoMuskies
02-07-2018, 12:04 AM
Random: only 6 of the 14 teams in the A-10 have winning records.

GIMMFD
02-07-2018, 12:42 AM
Kentucky is 6-5 in the SEC. They now go to A&M and Auburn and still play at Arkansas, and Florida with Home games with Missouri and Alabama. They might end up with a losing conference record. Top that with Cal not getting the best players for next year, and most of his guys wanting to bolt to the NBA, KY fans must be thrilled.

Ahhh, I didn't know the tail end of the schedule was that bad, but Cal is revered as a God there, really think a couple down seasons will put him in jeopardy?? I personally don't think Cal is that amazing at putting it all together, UK should have more National Championships with the talent he gets, but he sure as hell knows how to develop them for the NBA, really interesting to think about.

GoMuskies
02-07-2018, 10:45 PM
Hated Buckeyes about to help us out.

GoMuskies
02-07-2018, 10:47 PM
Ohio is the epicenter of college basketball this year.

#3 With a win Saturday?

D-West & PO-Z
02-07-2018, 10:53 PM
Ohio is the epicenter of college basketball this year.

#3 With a win Saturday?

Do you think we will jump Nova? I wouldnt be shocked if we do or dont.

Glad PurDont went down. They were overrated given their resume.

GoMuskies
02-07-2018, 10:56 PM
Seems like it would be very, very close. Xavier would certainly have earned it with wins in Indy and Omaha!

GoMuskies
02-07-2018, 11:21 PM
3 top 10 teams losing at home on the same night is kinda nutso.

XUFan09
02-08-2018, 12:38 AM
I just wish there was a way that both Purdue and Michigan State could lose on Saturday.

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X Factor
02-09-2018, 01:08 AM
Arizona loses at home to UCLA. :pointandlaugh:

GoMuskies
02-10-2018, 07:08 PM
Watched a bit of the Wichita State/UConn first half. Wichita State is definitely playing much better, which is nice since most of us here want them to go to NKU and thrash the Bearcats next weekend. But my God is UConn awful. Ollie really shouldn't be allowed on the plane after the game. That first half was a complete embarrassment for them.

xavierj
02-10-2018, 07:45 PM
Watched a bit of the Wichita State/UConn first half. Wichita State is definitely playing much better, which is nice since most of us here want them to go to NKU and thrash the Bearcats next weekend. But my God is UConn awful. Ollie really shouldn't be allowed on the plane after the game. That first half was a complete embarrassment for them.

Does Wichita have to beat UC at least once to be safe? They have beat absolutely no one this year. Best wins. Neutral by 6 over Marquette and at home vs Houston. 4-3 in last 7 with a loss at home to SMU and at Temple.

usfldan
02-10-2018, 07:51 PM
Let's Go Gobblers!

Nigel Tufnel
02-10-2018, 08:05 PM
Let's Go Gobblers!

Why didn't they foul???? Had 2 fouls to give and UVA gets an open 16 footer to tie the game....

GoMuskies
02-10-2018, 08:09 PM
Does Wichita have to beat UC at least once to be safe? They have beat absolutely no one this year. Best wins. Neutral by 6 over Marquette and at home vs Houston. 4-3 in last 7 with a loss at home to SMU and at Temple.

Nah, just better not lose any others.

GoMuskies
02-10-2018, 10:03 PM
Here is a perfect illustration of what has become of UConn: https://mobile.twitter.com/DanielVConnolly/status/962475511632093184/photo/1

GIMMFD
02-11-2018, 01:46 PM
Here is a perfect illustration of what has become of UConn: https://mobile.twitter.com/DanielVConnolly/status/962475511632093184/photo/1

Christ... Calhoun is probably on the verge of a stroke seeing wtf Ollie has done to that program.

GoMuskies
02-11-2018, 05:16 PM
UC is murdering SMU on the road. That's pretty impressive.

bleedXblue
02-11-2018, 05:17 PM
UC is murdering SMU on the road. That's pretty impressive.

Are you serious?

OTRMUSKIE
02-11-2018, 05:18 PM
So SMU is playing without their top 3 players. Thy have 7 scholarship players. UC is going to lose as soon as they play one good team. Their best win is Buffalo. I know that’s not the players fault but UC isn’t the 6th best team in the country.

xavierj
02-11-2018, 05:25 PM
Yes SMU is decimated. Down to basically 5 guys. Missing around 44 pts, 13 rebounds and 8 assists front the lineup. Would be like playing St John’s without Ponds, Clark and Simon.

OTRMUSKIE
02-11-2018, 05:33 PM
Or Xavier without Trey, jp and Q. SMU has 6 available players. UC should not move up. They just said UC was the 6th best team to win the NC. They didn’t have X at all.

bleedXblue
02-11-2018, 05:45 PM
Or Xavier without Trey, jp and Q. SMU has 6 available players. UC should not move up. They just said UC was the 6th best team to win the NC. They didn’t have X at all.

Thats idiotic whoever said that......just plain f'ing stupid

GoMuskies
02-11-2018, 05:48 PM
I didn't know SMU was missing that much. They're essentially Marquette, and if we were doing this to Marquette on the road I'd be plenty impressed. But obviously that's a healthy SMU.

XUFan09
02-11-2018, 05:58 PM
I didn't know SMU was missing that much. They're essentially Marquette, and if we were doing this to Marquette on the road I'd be plenty impressed. But obviously that's a healthy SMU.It's really too bad for UC, because I think they would have beat a healthy SMU too.

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GoMuskies
02-11-2018, 06:00 PM
They were only 8 point favorites. So still a pretty impressive result.

xu82
02-11-2018, 06:10 PM
They were only 8 point favorites. So still a pretty impressive result.

I checked in with about 9 minutes left and SMU had 29 points. Short handed or not, THAT catches your eye.

GoMuskies
02-11-2018, 06:14 PM
I checked in with about 9 minutes left and SMU had 29 points. Short handed or not, THAT catches your eye.

Clearly, but that has been happening quite a bit with UC lately. The teams they're playing aren't THAT bad. They obviously play really good defense.

bleedXblue
02-11-2018, 06:19 PM
UC has played one tourney team in the last 16 games. Whether they are really good or not is still up for debate.......

GoMuskies
02-11-2018, 06:26 PM
I don't think that's up for debate. How good they are certainly is, though.

RyanblockXU
02-11-2018, 07:08 PM
So SMU is playing without their top 3 players. Thy have 7 scholarship players. UC is going to lose as soon as they play one good team. Their best win is Buffalo. I know that’s not the players fault but UC isn’t the 6th best team in the country.

Oh come on. This is ridiculous.

Buffalo is their best win according to the RPI.

But kenpom is a far better measure of how good a team is and they have 8 wins better than the buffalo win.

Either way, I’m not concerned with them and I have no idea why so many xu fans are. We are better then them but both are having elite seasons. Both are somewhat flawed on one side of the ball and both have talented teams.

I think if we played UC today on a neutral floor, it would a much different game than it was at Cintas. They can’t handle Cintas and not many teams can. But make no mistake UC is good.

Just watch them defend a few possessions. If you’re a coach, and you want to show your team what defending the ball on a string looks like, then UC is the perfect example of it. I watched the smu game and the defensive rotations were near perfect.

All thst said, they are elite defensively and we are elite offensively. In any other year I’d say both UC and XU are not title contenders bc of how bad each is on one side of the ball but this year is different and very team teams aren’t flawed some where so both are legit contenders in my book.

Masterofreality
02-11-2018, 07:21 PM
UC is murdering SMU on the road. That's pretty impressive.

Or not at all. 18 ppg SMU Player Shake Milton was in street clothes. SMU is a dumpster fire.

X-band '01
02-11-2018, 08:06 PM
Next week is their real litmus test. They go to Houston on Thursday night (albeit at Texas Southern's arena) and host Wichita on Sunday.

OTRMUSKIE
02-11-2018, 08:24 PM
Houston could beat them but I doubt UC loses to the shockers at home. UC is ranked 130 in fg percentage. I just don’t think their defense will allow them to win when they finally play a tournament team away from home.

RyanblockXU
02-11-2018, 09:07 PM
Or not at all. 18 ppg SMU Player Shake Milton was in street clothes. SMU is a dumpster fire.

UC did beat a completely healthy smu team earlier this season by 20 points.

UC wasn’t losing this game no matter who played.


Houston will be a big test for them. They are a legit team with some big wins.

xu82
02-11-2018, 09:08 PM
Clearly, but that has been happening quite a bit with UC lately. The teams they're playing aren't THAT bad. They obviously play really good defense.

That was my point. The “but” makes it sound like we’re on opposite sides here, but that is some stiff defense.

OTRMUSKIE
02-11-2018, 10:36 PM
I guess one AP voter releases his picks already. Thank God they don’t let the polls decide. Because I think we all know UC is more like top 15.
Dachille has MSU #1 UC #2 X #3

Xavier
02-12-2018, 05:34 PM
Problem is with UC schedule it is just tough to tell. I think they are anywhere from 5-15.

X-band '01
02-12-2018, 11:41 PM
Baylor is suddenly looking like a bigger win by the day. They outlasted Texas in double OT at Austin.

GIMMFD
02-12-2018, 11:50 PM
Baylor is suddenly looking like a bigger win by the day. They outlasted Texas in double OT at Austin.

Love that they're taking care of business, didn't know how good it would look there for a bit, but after Kansas and Texas, they're pulling their weight and helping us out in locking down that final 1 seed. Just up to us to take care of business and clip these 2 more important games.

GoMuskies
02-13-2018, 10:48 PM
So do the Pitinos get to start hanging out together again after this season? Jr's Minnesota squad is rotten. Maybe the two of them could team up with Lane Kiffin and turn Florida Atlantic into a national power. (And Jr. at FAU would be, in miniature scale, similar to Sr. coaching at Louisville after coaching at Kentucky).

Juice
02-14-2018, 01:29 PM
So do the Pitinos get to start hanging out together again after this season? Jr's Minnesota squad is rotten. Maybe the two of them could team up with Lane Kiffin and turn Florida Atlantic into a national power. (And Jr. at FAU would be, in miniature scale, similar to Sr. coaching at Louisville after coaching at Kentucky).

I love how two of ESPN's darlings from last year that they wanted to be awesome this year with Northwestern and Minnesota both suck.

Xville
02-14-2018, 09:01 PM
Duke just won a game....probably will move up 10 spots in the rankings on account of it

GoMuskies
02-14-2018, 10:21 PM
Duke just won a game....probably will move up 10 spots in the rankings on account of it

They beat the team that just beat UVA after all. Big jump is totally justified.

GoMuskies
02-15-2018, 08:52 AM
4 weeks to March Madness!!!

STL_XUfan
02-15-2018, 09:42 AM
They beat the team that just beat UVA after all. Big jump is totally justified.
They fell into a classic trap by beating VT. Everyone knows that if you want to move up in the rankings it is best to lose to VT at home.

dethwing
02-15-2018, 12:24 PM
Ah but I think that trick only works if it was your second total loss (Fewest in the country) after a 15 game win streak and 8 Quadrant 1 wins.

But by all means, I would love to see Duke try that strategy. :)

GoMuskies
02-15-2018, 08:52 PM
Wisconsin beating Purdue would be NICE.

muskiefan82
02-15-2018, 08:57 PM
Penn St. is also whooping OSU right now too

Lloyd Braun
02-15-2018, 08:58 PM
Rooting for Houston too.

muskiefan82
02-15-2018, 09:01 PM
Wisky beats Purdue. OSU getting thumped at the half. Uc on the ropes.

GoMuskies
02-15-2018, 09:06 PM
UC will be the #2 seed in the AAC Tournament.

Grizzx12
02-15-2018, 09:14 PM
My wife walks in mid 2nd half and takes one look at the TV and goes "well that guy's man bun is stupid but we dont like Cincinnati in this house so Ill root for the red team"

Lloyd Braun
02-15-2018, 09:20 PM
From Jeff Borzello: “Ironically, Cincinnati's loss to Houston also finally gives Cincinnati its first win over a likely NCAA Tournament team.”

OTRMUSKIE
02-15-2018, 09:22 PM
UC was about to lose. Their offense is awful. My guess is when they play the shockers they lose both games. UC has now lost to the 3 best teams they have played. Not one of their wins comes against tournament locks although Houston is prob a lock now. Uc may drop to a 4/5 if they were to lose 3 more which I expect they will.

Lloyd Braun
02-15-2018, 09:48 PM
UC was about to lose. Their offense is awful. My guess is when they play the shockers they lose both games. UC has now lost to the 3 best teams they have played. Not one of their wins comes against tournament locks although Houston is prob a lock now. Uc may drop to a 4/5 if they were to lose 3 more which I expect they will.

I’m not really sure how they were on the 2 seed line to begin... the field must be so weak. That’s the only possibility. I suppose Buffalo is a tournament team because they are winning their respective conference ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Masterofreality
02-15-2018, 10:30 PM
It’s 10:30pm on February 15, 2018...
And uc still SucKS.
Even more so after that trash game in Houston.

bobbiemcgee
02-15-2018, 11:00 PM
12 min w/o a fg.

xu82
02-15-2018, 11:09 PM
12 min w/o a fg.

And I am guessing that was NOT during half time....

I can’t imagine how awful that must be to watch!

GIMMFD
02-15-2018, 11:54 PM
And I am guessing that was NOT during half time....

I can’t imagine how awful that must be to watch!

Don't tell UC fans that, they think they'd take Xavier now that they've had "time to grow and gel"

xudash
02-15-2018, 11:56 PM
It’s 10:30pm on February 15, 2018...
And uc still SucKS.
Even more so after that trash game in Houston.

And I watched them lose in Dana's.

xu82
02-16-2018, 12:02 AM
And I watched them lose in Dana's.

That’s like a double bonus for you! Congrats!

X-band '01
02-16-2018, 12:11 AM
Mario Mercurio tweeted out tonight that Houston's student section had a JP Macura fathead on display for UC tonight.

I for one applaud the Houston students if that really happened.

xu82
02-16-2018, 12:14 AM
Mario Mercurio tweeted out tonight that Houston's student section had a JP Macura fathead on display for UC tonight.

I for one applaud the Houston students if that really happened.

I’d love to buy that guy a beer!!!

bjf123
02-16-2018, 01:04 PM
Mario Mercurio tweeted out tonight that Houston's student section had a JP Macura fathead on display for UC tonight.

I for one applaud the Houston students if that really happened.

Public reps for the Houston student section!


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ArizonaXUGrad
02-16-2018, 01:54 PM
Epic troll with a fathead of another college player.


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GIMMFD
02-16-2018, 04:29 PM
Epic troll with a fathead of another college player.


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My favorite response to that tweet was somebody saying "Did Mick Cronin try to fight it??"

X-band '01
02-16-2018, 04:31 PM
It also told him to F off three times.

Lloyd Braun
02-16-2018, 04:32 PM
I watched the entire game and didn’t see it... granted the student section was not in the typical spot, but I have yet to see this confirmed. Anyone have a pic? It would be brilliant if true.

GIMMFD
02-16-2018, 07:23 PM
I watched the entire game and didn’t see it... granted the student section was not in the typical spot, but I have yet to see this confirmed. Anyone have a pic? It would be brilliant if true.

Haven't seen it in the twitter-sphere, but if I come across it will be sure to post it. Highly doubt a google search would result in anything either.

Lloyd Braun
02-17-2018, 02:31 PM
Northwestern pumped up early to try and knock off Sparty...