Trevon and JP's climb up the all time scoring chart

[XMuskieFTW]

Figured it would be fun to follow Tre and JP climb up Xavier's all time scoring chart. Tre should finish second. If JP finishes with the same amount of points as last year, he would finish in 15th at 1600 total points. Two top 15 scorers all time as seniors on the same team? We're in for a special season.

1 - BYRON LARKIN, 2,696
2 – TREVON BLUIETT, 2,261
3 - DAVID WEST, 2,132
4 - ROMAIN SATO, 2,005
5 - TYRONE HILL, 2,003
6 - LENNY BROWN, 1,885
7 – TU HOLLOWAY, 1,811
8 - ANTHONY HICKS, 1,805
9 - JAMIE GLADDEN, 1,780
10 - STEVE THOMAS, 1,722
11 - BRIAN GRANT, 1,719
12 - NICK DANIELS, 1,690
13 - BOB QUICK, 1,636
14 - STANLEY BURRELL, 1,612
15 - STAN KIMBROUGH, 1,596
16 - DARNELL WILLIAMS, 1,572
17 - LIONEL CHALMERS, 1,556
18 - GARY LUMPKIN, 1,507
19– JP MACURA, 1,491
20 - JAMES POSEY, 1,455
21 - JUSTIN DOELLMAN, 1,402
22 - JEFF JENKINS, 1,384
23 - JOE VIVIANO, 1,338
24 - JAMAL WALKER, 1,333
25 - JACK THOBE, 1,296
26 - DEREK STRONG,1,291
27 - DAVE PIONTEK, 1,287
28 - JERRY HELMERS, 1,275
29 - JOSH DUNCAN, 1,210
30 – MARK LYONS, 1,198
30 - JUSTIN CAGE, 1,181
32 - MICHAEL DAVENPORT, 1,172
33 - HANK STEIN, 1,144
34 – MAURICE MCAFEE, 1,142
35 - DEXTER BAILEY, 1,139
36 - GENE SMITH, 1,109
36 - RICHIE HARRIS, 1,109
38 - B.J. RAYMOND, 1,104
39 - KEVIN FREY, 1,102
40 - HUCK BUDDE, 1,096
40- DERRICK BROWN, 1,096
42 – KENNY FREASE, 1,094
43 - BILL KIRVIN, 1,088
44 - JIM BOOTHE, 1,085
45 - BOB PELKINGTON, 1,075
46 - JOE GEIGER, 1,073
46 - AARON WILLIAMS, 1,073
48 - VICTOR FLEMING, 1,059
49 - GARY MASSA, 1,049
50 - MIKE PLUNKETT, 1,043
51 - MICHAEL HAWKINS, 1,029
52 - T.J. JOHNSON, 1,021
53 – SEMAJ CHRISTON, 1,016

Updated through 11/5/2019

[UCGRAD4X]

Didn't the article in the Xavier Nation publication say something about the two of them being on the verge of becoming the most prolific scoring duo in Xavier history?

If so, that begs the question, which duo would they be surpassing?

[Muskie]

West and Sato overlapped didn't they? Or do they have to have played together the same 4 years to qualify?

[MuskieXU]

West and Sato overlapped didn't they? Or do they have to have played together the same 4 years to qualify?

Gotta be Sato and Chalmers for most points as a duo while playing together.

Someone can fact check me here, but I believe Larkin and Kimbrough scored the most in a single season as a duo with 1303. JP and Trevon could break that this year as well.

[UCGRAD4X]

West and Sato overlapped didn't they? Or do they have to have played together the same 4 years to qualify?

My guess is that they didn't necessarily need to play together for four years (although I imagine that would help and make sense...but we never let that stop us before), but they would need to have been playing on the team at the same time - for however many year - for their points to count in this particular category.

[Bill Kirvin]

My guess is that they didn't necessarily need to play together for four years (although I imagine that would help and make sense...but we never let that stop us before), but they would need to have been playing on the team at the same time - for however many year - for their points to count in this particular category.

Just for the record-I checked this out on career scoring duo average-Jack Thobe and myself(Bill Kirvin) we averaged combined 15.5 over the 3 years we wewe together (1959-1962). With that, I rest my case-

[UCGRAD4X]

Just for the record-I checked this out on career scoring duo average-Jack Thobe and myself(Bill Kirvin) we averaged combined 15.5 over the 3 years we wewe together (1959-1962). With that, I rest my case-

Ok, asked and answered!

[xu82]

I don’t know why, but I’m surprised to see Tyrone Hill at #4. I didn’t think he was that kind of scorer.

[smileyy]

Tyrone Hill was a double double machine ever since he stepped on the court as a freshman. Those points (and I think ~20ppg as a senior) add up.

[waggy]

Tyrone probably hasn't gotten the recognition he deserves for what a great player he was for X. Hill had a huge part in elevating the X program as a player.

[bleedXblue]

Trevon could end up at #2. Thats pretty incredible

[kmcrawfo]

Trevon could end up at #2. Thats pretty incredible

Or... Trevon just has to average about 35 pts per game to be number 1 all time.... pretty amazing career Byron had.

[kmcrawfo]

Or... Trevon just has to average about 35 pts per game to be number 1 all time.... pretty amazing career Byron had.

Wouldn't it be something to see trevon have a buddy hield type year and become a lottery pick

[bleedXblue]

Or... Trevon just has to average about 35 pts per game to be number 1 all time.... pretty amazing career Byron had.

without the 3 pt shot as well

[joe titan]

Tyrone Hill was a double double machine ever since he stepped on the court as a freshman. Those points (and I think ~20ppg as a senior) add up.

Well not quite; as Fr & Soph T-bone was not much but as Jr & Sr his scoring was circa 20 ppg.

[Muskeagle]

Or... Trevon just has to average about 35 pts per game to be number 1 all time.... pretty amazing career Byron had.

Not to mention that by the first week of January, Trevon will equal Byron in the number of games played.

[UCGRAD4X]

Si, I resubmit the question: who is the scoring duo Blueitt and Macura are in danger of surpassing?

I suppose a bit of research could be done....if any body had the time... which I do not.

[Muskeagle]

Si, I resubmit the question: who is the scoring duo Blueitt and Macura are in danger of surpassing?

I suppose a bit of research could be done....if any body had the time... which I do not.

On the little preseason show one of the local channels did, they stated that B/M would likely pass Sato/Chalmers as the highest scoring duo from the same class. Perusing the list, this seems certain to be the current leading pair.

[Xuperman]

So the duo must be from the same class? OR just to have played together at least 1 year? Huge difference. If the question is clarified, the answer is much easier to answer. Here is a side question that needs to be pondered.....can Kaiser Gates make the 1000 pt club? :wink:

[XMuskieFTW]

So the duo must be from the same class? OR just to have played together at least 1 year? Huge difference. If the question is clarified, the answer is much easier to answer. Here is a side question that needs to be pondered.....can Kaiser Gates make the 1000 pt club? :wink:

This one will be interesting to watch. He needs to score about 10 a game for the rest of his career to make it. Let's all hope he does.

[GIMMFD]

This one will be interesting to watch. He needs to score about 10 a game for the rest of his career to make it. Let's all hope he does.

I wouldn't be surprised to see him put up 10 a game for the rest of his career, I think he has the weapons to be a decent enough scorer, hopefully has some confidence in his shot, and has matured during the off-season. I'd love to see him have a Farr like jump this year!!

[Bill Kirvin]

Again--Thobe and I did not play 4 years. Freshmen had to play on Freshmen team. Our 3 year average combined 15.5 pts per game. Realize in our time no 3 pt shot, no shot clock and only 25-26 games per year. Both Jack and I could bury shots from outside. Dare say what our averages and total pts. would of been-

Again..I rest my case -

[xu82]

Tyrone Hill was a double double machine ever since he stepped on the court as a freshman. Those points (and I think ~20ppg as a senior) add up.

I guess that says something about how times have changed. I was no longer in Cincinnati and I’d check out USA Today to catch scores or catch a sentence or two about my teams. NOW? You can watch every game and get all the info you want on-line and we never get confused with Xavier from New Orleans in a box score!

Back then it was easy to miss out on a lot of things.

[Smooth]

So the duo must be from the same class? OR just to have played together at least 1 year? Huge difference. If the question is clarified, the answer is much easier to answer. Here is a side question that needs to be pondered.....can Kaiser Gates make the 1000 pt club? :wink:

Yes, they must be from the same class. Larkin and Hill played together and would be the leaders for players of different classes who played together. B&M will not be close to their total.

[UCGRAD4X]

I'm pretty sure the point total is for the time they played together, points scored while on the team at the same time. Only those points that they made while on the team together count.

I hope I made my point :lmao:

[XMuskieFTW]

Tre up a spot to 14 and JP up a spot to 47 tonight.

[Snipe]

34 - DEXTER BAILEY, 1,139

I want to give a shout out to Dexter Bailey.

Nobody on this board ever talks about Dexter Bailey. I feel that he is unloved. I want to give him some love.

If anyone has some Dexter Bailey stories, let the love flow.

It is an injustice that he is so ignored. DEX! DEX! DEX!

[Snipe]

DEXTER BAILEY ’84

An impact player during his Musketeer days, Dexter Bailey is now making another kind of impact—helping match workers with companies that need their services. And the journey has taken some unexpected turns. A high school star in suburban Cincinnati, Bailey arrived at the University in 1980 during a rebuilding period. “The first year we didn’t win many games,” he recalls. “The second year I think we won only eight. My junior year we turned it around and went to the NCAA Tournament.”

A small forward, Bailey scored 1,139 points at Xavier and was drafted by the Denver Nuggets of the NBA. But he didn’t make the team and, after a period of reflection, decided to join former teammate Jeff Jenkins playing in South America. For the next 11 seasons, he played for Sunchales in Santa Fe, Argentina. During the off-seasons, he played in Chile.

But by the mid-1990s Bailey was looking for a career change. He started working for a staffing franchise, moving up through the ranks and eventually becoming president. He and his wife now have four offices in Greater Cincinnati and are in the process of breaking away to start their own company, ASD Staffing.

“I embrace the future,” Bailey says. “It’s exciting. We provide jobs for the community and help companies get their products out.”

[Snipe]

3 - ROMAIN SATO, 2,005

Amazing to look at this list.

As a senior, Romain Sato averaged 8 rebounds a game. You look at the points presented above with respect, and you should. But Jesus Christ, that man got 8 rebounds a game playing at the 2 guard. The kid was off the hook. One of the most underrated Muskies of all time. He scored, he rebounded, he did everything but make my bed. And he could probably do that better than I could, because everything he did was top notch. Brought us to our first ELITE EIGHT.

What an amazing man. Not as good as DEX mind you, but Sato was incredible.

[Snipe]

7 - ANTHONY HICKS, 1,805

ANTHONY HICKS ('83) --- 1988 Inductee --- First student-athlete ever selected in first year of eligibility; lettered four years in basketball. Three-time Team MVP. Member of the Xavier 1,000-Point Club.

One local paper wrote that, "As Hicks goes, so goes Xavier." And Hicks led Xavier basketball back to respectability.

During Hicks' time as a Musketeer, Xavier reached numerous milestones. XU captured its first conference title ever (1981) and its first conference tournament title ever (1983). XU reached the 20-win plateau (22-8 in 1983) for the first time since 1957, reached non-conference post-season tournament play (1983) for the first time since 1963, and reached the NCAA Tournament (1983) for the first time since 1961.

Hicks finished his career as Xavier's all-time leading scorer with 1,805 career points, he currently ranks seventh. Hicks ranks second all-time for career steals (226) and stands eighth on the XU all-time assist chart (466).

The Hicks' stat report bears repeating. He led XU in scoring three seasons: 16.7 (1981), 20.4 (1982), and 14.9 (1983). He led XU in assists three seasons: 109 (1981), 121 (1982), and 121 (1983). And he led XU in steals all four seasons: 54 (1980), 58 (1981), 60 (1982), and 54 (1983).

[nuts4xu]

Again--Thobe and I did not play 4 years. Freshmen had to play on Freshmen team. Our 3 year average combined 15.5 pts per game. Realize in our time no 3 pt shot, no shot clock and only 25-26 games per year. Both Jack and I could bury shots from outside. Dare say what our averages and total pts. would of been-

Again..I rest my case -

Have you compared your 15.5 per game to other scoring duos that have come through Xavier...or are you resting your case on your belief you were the best? I’d be surprised if this is the best of all time. With all due respect to you and Jack, of course.

I will look into this when I have time, but it’s tough to believe we didn’t have a duo that averaged more than 15.5 in the years since Bill hung up his Chuck Taylor’s.

[DexterBailey84]

DEXTER BAILEY ’84


love me some DB!

[UCGRAD4X]

3 - ROMAIN SATO, 2,005

Amazing to look at this list.

As a senior, Romain Sato averaged 8 rebounds a game. You look at the points presented above with respect, and you should. But Jesus Christ, that man got 8 rebounds a game playing at the 2 guard. The kid was off the hook. One of the most underrated Muskies of all time. He scored, he rebounded, he did everything but make my bed. And he could probably do that better than I could, because everything he did was top notch. Brought us to our first ELITE EIGHT.

What an amazing man. Not as good as DEX mind you, but Sato was incredible.

Romain Sato will always be one of my favorite players ever. Great ball player and a real class act on and off the court.

[Xuperman]

Brown and Lumpkin played all four years together and totaled 3392 pts. More than West and Sato who only played 3 years together, as did Sato and Chalmers.

[joe titan]

Brown and Lumpkin played all four years together and totaled 3392 pts. More than West and Sato who only played 3 years together, as did Sato and Chalmers.

Gary Lumpkin may be the most surprising name on the list; and when you throw in James Posey & 3 years' of Darnell Williams there is major production.

[X Factor]

3 - ROMAIN SATO, 2,005

Amazing to look at this list.

As a senior, Romain Sato averaged 8 rebounds a game. You look at the points presented above with respect, and you should. But Jesus Christ, that man got 8 rebounds a game playing at the 2 guard. The kid was off the hook. One of the most underrated Muskies of all time. He scored, he rebounded, he did everything but make my bed. And he could probably do that better than I could, because everything he did was top notch. Brought us to our first ELITE EIGHT.

What an amazing man. Not as good as DEX mind you, but Sato was incredible.

Probably my favorite player ever.

I think he deserves to have his number retired. He's 3rd all-time in scoring and 8th all-time in rebounding. Pretty sure he holds the record for most three pointers too.

He was 6'3 1/2 and was one of the best rebounder ever to play at X. He led X to first Elite Eight ever. He defended the opponent's best player night in and night out.

He was a true warrior. Retire #10!!

[Xuperman]

I have tried to find 2 players that can top Brown/Lumpkin's 3392, with no success. So Tre/JP look good to surpass that......Go X!!

[Muskie]

Gary Lumpkin may be the most surprising name on the list; and when you throw in James Posey & 3 years' of Darnell Williams there is major production.

And relatively little Tournament success to show for it. But what a team they were to watch. Loved taking the bus over to the Gardens to watch those guys.


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[Lloyd Braun]

I have tried to find 2 players that can top Brown/Lumpkin's 3392, with no success. So Tre/JP look good to surpass that......Go X!!

It’s on the game day guide Chris Mack tweeted (https://twitter.com/coachchrismack/status/928977998312812546) out.

Sato/Chalmers- 3561
Brown/Lumpkin- 3392
Larkin/Campbell- 3058
Holloway/Frease- 2936
Gladden/Williams- 2853
Burrell/Duncan- 2822

[kmcrawfo]

Have you compared your 15.5 per game to other scoring duos that have come through Xavier...or are you resting your case on your belief you were the best? I’d be surprised if this is the best of all time. With all due respect to you and Jack, of course.

I will look into this when I have time, but it’s tough to believe we didn’t have a duo that averaged more than 15.5 in the years since Bill hung up his Chuck Taylor’s.

How about we use the comparison of our 2nd and 3rd scorer of all time (Sato and West) who overlapped for 3 years. During those 3 years Sato and West combined for 3442 points over 194 games.

That is a 17.74 pts/game average.

I don't see how any other tandem has a higher 3 year scoring average than that in our history since Sato/West are 2nd/3rd all time in points and happen to be together 3 or their 4 years.

This all comparing apples and oranges, though. The article is only talking about players that played together for 4 years, so the Sato/West and Bill/Jack examples while both impressive just don't apply.

[American X]

Savor every second of watching these two play. This is going to be a special year.

[xu82]

Savor every second of watching these two play. This is going to be a special year.

I’ll be savoring every second of last night’s game again! I don’t care who they were playing...that was awesome!

[mid major]

Wow, I would've thought Josh Duncan had more than 1,210 points. I guess he scored half of those against WVU in the regional semi's in 2008.

[XMuskieFTW]

Bluiett now up to 9th all time and JP up to 32nd all time. JP is on pace to finish around the 15-17 range. Trevon is on pace this season to pass Sato for 3rd the 8th conference game of the season, at Seton Hall on 1/20 and pass DWest for 2nd all time the 14th conference game at home against Seton Hall on 2/14. If Bluiett keeps up his PPG and Xavier were to play 8 post season games, Bluiett would be on pace to finish with 2,415 points and actually be closer to Byron than he is to DWest.

[SemajParlor]

Trevon is on that elite level where you don't think twice about him going for 28 on 14 shots in the biggest of game in the country. What a smooth 28. He looks amazing this year.

[xukeith]

8 post season games. Oh now we can ask to expand field of NCAA Tourney to 256 teams. Then there would be 8 post season games for Bluiett to reach final championship game.

[XU88]

Pretty sure XUMuskieFTW was including the Big East Tournament in those 8 post season games.

[GoMuskies]

We should purposely play our way into 7th in the Big East and then the NCAA Tournament plan-in game so that Trevon can have 11 post-season games!

[sirthought]

We should purposely play our way into 7th in the Big East and then the NCAA Tournament plan-in game so that Trevon can have 11 post-season games!

Quick call the athletic department with your suggestion!

[xeus]

We should purposely play our way into 7th in the Big East and then the NCAA Tournament plan-in game so that Trevon can have 11 post-season games!

I'll pass on the game in Dayton. Tre will just have to work harder.

[GIMMFD]

Trevon is on that elite level where you don't think twice about him going for 28 on 14 shots in the biggest of game in the country. What a smooth 28. He looks amazing this year.

I agree completely, I didn't even realize Tre finished up with 28, I thought he had 22 or so, he scores incredibly efficient, and has really been lights out to start the season. We should sit back and enjoy the ride, we watched this guy blossom the last 4 years, and he's sure as hell rewarded us with some special moments.

[xuwin]

Being a great free throw shooter with the ball in his hands every time the opposing team has to take fouls helps the stats tremendously.

[XMuskieFTW]

8 post season games. Oh now we can ask to expand field of NCAA Tourney to 256 teams. Then there would be 8 post season games for Bluiett to reach final championship game.

:rolleyes:

[XMuskieFTW]

Figured it would be fun to follow Tre and JP climb up Xavier's all time scoring chart. Tre should finish second. If JP finishes with the same amount of points as last year, he would finish in 15th at 1600 total points. Two top 15 scorers all time as seniors on the same team? We're in for a special season.

1 - BYRON LARKIN, 2,696
2 - DAVID WEST, 2,132
3 - ROMAIN SATO, 2,005
4 - TYRONE HILL, 2,003
5 – TREVON BLUIETT, 1,972
6 - LENNY BROWN, 1,885
7 – TU HOLLOWAY, 1,811
8 - ANTHONY HICKS, 1,805
9 - JAMIE GLADDEN, 1,780
10 - STEVE THOMAS, 1,722
11 - BRIAN GRANT, 1,719
12 - NICK DANIELS, 1,690
13 - BOB QUICK, 1,636
14 - STANLEY BURRELL, 1,612
15 - STAN KIMBROUGH, 1,596
16 - DARNELL WILLIAMS, 1,572
17 - LIONEL CHALMERS, 1,556
18 - GARY LUMPKIN, 1,507
19 - JAMES POSEY, 1,455
20 - JUSTIN DOELLMAN, 1,402
21 - JEFF JENKINS, 1,384
22 - JOE VIVIANO, 1,338
23 - JAMAL WALKER, 1,333
24 - JACK THOBE, 1,296
25– JP MACURA, 1,294
26 - DEREK STRONG,1,291
27 - DAVE PIONTEK, 1,287
28 - JERRY HELMERS, 1,275
29 - JOSH DUNCAN, 1,210
30 – MARK LYONS, 1,198
30 - JUSTIN CAGE, 1,181
32 - MICHAEL DAVENPORT, 1,172
33 - HANK STEIN, 1,144
34 – MAURICE MCAFEE, 1,142
35 - DEXTER BAILEY, 1,139
36 - GENE SMITH, 1,109
36 - RICHIE HARRIS, 1,109
38 - B.J. RAYMOND, 1,104
39 - KEVIN FREY, 1,102
40 - HUCK BUDDE, 1,096
40- DERRICK BROWN, 1,096
42 – KENNY FREASE, 1,094
43 - BILL KIRVIN, 1,088
44 - JIM BOOTHE, 1,085
45 - BOB PELKINGTON, 1,075
46 - JOE GEIGER, 1,073
46 - AARON WILLIAMS, 1,073
48 - VICTOR FLEMING, 1,059
49 - GARY MASSA, 1,049
50 - MIKE PLUNKETT, 1,043
51 - MICHAEL HAWKINS, 1,029
52 - T.J. JOHNSON, 1,021
53 – SEMAJ CHRISTON, 1,016

Updated through St John's 1/17

Bluiett now 28 points from the 2000 mark. Would love to see him get there on Saturday. JP also moved into the top 25 last night.

[Muskie]

Bluiett now 28 points from the 2000 mark. Would love to see him get there on Saturday. JP also moved into the top 25 last night.

After Seton Hall

Trevon is 160 points away from being even with West. With 11 Big East Games remaining he would need to average 14.5 points. His ascent to #2 is inevitable (as this doesn't include the Big East Tourney or NCAA Tourney).

Trevon is 724 points behind Byron. Even if played an additional 8 tournament games averaging 20 points, he would still be 400 points or so behind.

[Cheesehead]

looking at this list, there's is no way anyone surpasses Byron.

[XUFan09]

looking at this list, there's is no way anyone surpasses Byron.It would probably take the shot clock being reduced to 24 seconds and X having a four-year go-to scorer. Even then, it wouldn't be a guarantee. If you had a guy like J.P. Macura next to you, you're still probably not getting enough shots.

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[XMuskieFTW]

looking at this list, there's is no way anyone surpasses Byron.

Only chance is if Brayden Mack lives up to his genealogy(on his mother's side mostly) and pulls a Doug Mcdermott to stay 4 years to play for his dad.

[IM4X]

ItÂ’s on the game day guide Chris Mack tweeted (https://twitter.com/coachchrismack/status/928977998312812546) out.

Sato/Chalmers- 3561
Brown/Lumpkin- 3392
Larkin/Campbell- 3058
Holloway/Frease- 2936
Gladden/Williams- 2853
Burrell/Duncan- 2822

I looked up the point averages from players on previous rosters. It would seem that there are duo's (not listed) who have more points than some of the above duos. Hill/Strong would seem to be above these guys (just for the 3 years they were on the floor together).

Heck, even Larkin and Hill's 3 years that overlapped or possibly even Stan the man and Larkin's years overlapping.

Does anyone know if I am wrong about this?

Do the players have to play 4 years together to qualify for this list, or is it just total number of points that any two players collectively scored while playing on the floor together at X?

[Muskie]

I looked up the point averages from players on previous rosters. It would seem that there are duo's (not listed) who have more points than some of the above duos. Hill/Strong would seem to be above these guys (just for the 3 years they were on the floor together).

Heck, even Larkin and Hill's 3 years that overlapped or possibly even Stan the man and Larkin's years overlapping.

Does anyone know if I am wrong about this?

Do the players have to play 4 years together to qualify for this list, or is it just total number of points that any two players collectively scored while playing on the floor together at X?

My guess is that is it 4 year teammates?

[GIMMFD]

Boy I'd love for him to cook Seton Hall for 28 and get to 2,000 points. What he's done has been incredible, I see no way of getting first, but second is pretty damn special. 5 should hang in the rafters after it's all said and done.

[Muskie]

Maybe it's because I was in School for part of the West era, but I have mixed emotions about Trevon taking #2. I'm not saying Trevon's not worthy. You just don't like to see your favorite player's surpassed sometimes.

[GoMuskies]

Maybe it's because I was in School for part of the West era, but I have mixed emotions about Trevon taking #2. I'm not saying Trevon's not worthy. You just don't like to see your favorite player's surpassed sometimes.

I feel kind of the same about him passing Sato,honestly. I really like Trevon, but it's hard to top Sato. I mean, does Trevon have a nesting doll?

[Muskie]

I feel kind of the same about him passing Sato,honestly. I really like Trevon, but it's hard to top Sato. I mean, does Trevon have a nesting doll?

Haha... I have the nesting doll on my shelf here at work. (Along with a signed baseball of the Big East Championship Squad, a basketball signed by Team 95, and a piece of the Cintas Floor.

[Lloyd Braun]

My guess is that is it 4 year teammates?

Correct.

[Lloyd Braun]

It’s on the game day guide Chris Mack tweeted (https://twitter.com/coachchrismack/status/928977998312812546) out.

Sato/Chalmers- 3561
Brown/Lumpkin- 3392
Larkin/Campbell- 3058
Holloway/Frease- 2936
Gladden/Williams- 2853
Burrell/Duncan- 2822

Currently Tre/JP at 3266.

If they continue their current scoring averages they will move to #1 on the list on Feb 28 vs Providence....Senior Night.

[Steve A]

It’s on the game day guide Chris Mack tweeted (https://twitter.com/coachchrismack/status/928977998312812546) out.

Sato/Chalmers- 3561
Brown/Lumpkin- 3392
Larkin/Campbell- 3058
Holloway/Frease- 2936
Gladden/Williams- 2853
Burrell/Duncan- 2822

I have to say I find Dexter Campbell being on this list to be amusing since Byron obviously did 90% of the work. It's similar to the fact that the most home runs in MLB history by a brother combination is Hank and Tommy Aaron and the 4th most hits by a father/son combination is Pete Rose and Pete Rose, Jr.

[xu koop scoop]

It’s on the game day guide Chris Mack tweeted (https://twitter.com/coachchrismack/status/928977998312812546) out.

Sato/Chalmers- 3561
Brown/Lumpkin- 3392
Larkin/Campbell- 3058
Holloway/Frease- 2936
Gladden/Williams- 2853
Burrell/Duncan- 2822

Nobody's mentioning Tyrone Hill & Derrick Strong at 3294. They were Seniors together & Strong only got to play 3 seasons. Still my favorite duo as they led XU past GTown when they had Motumbo & Mourning - who GTown called the Twin Towers. We also called Hill & Strong Twin Towers. That game got us to our 1st Sweet 16 - even though Hill fouled out with about 4 minutes to go. Freshman Aaron Williams spelled Hill & put in the game winner.

[xu koop scoop]

Forget the Duos for a moment. I'd like to give it up for Byron Larkin at 2,696. He got us a big win vs #3 seed Missouri in the NCAA & we might have beat Kansas in the NCAA his Senior year, but I believe he went out before halftime with an injury. He did this without a 3 pt shot. He's also been a great announcer on the radio for umpteen years. I started going to games at the Gardens just to see Larkin.

[vee4xu]

For those of us who watched woeful basketball between 1967 and 1980, we have no such angst regarding crawling over players we know on the list, except Nick Daniels, or whatever his new name is these days. Tre's already blown by him, so score away Tre!

[bleedXblue]

I feel kind of the same about him passing Sato,honestly. I really like Trevon, but it's hard to top Sato. I mean, does Trevon have a nesting doll?

Sato will always be my all time favorite player. 2,000 points and 892 rebounds. Just sick for a SG.

[X-band '01]

Forget the Duos for a moment. I'd like to give it up for Byron Larkin at 2,696. He got us a big win vs #3 seed Missouri in the NCAA & we might have beat Kansas in the NCAA his Senior year, but I believe he went out before halftime with an injury. He did this without a 3 pt shot. He's also been a great announcer on the radio for umpteen years. I started going to games at the Gardens just to see Larkin.

His first two seasons did not have the 3-point shot, but his final 2 seasons did. Even if the 3-point shot were not in play, he would still have 2,645 points.

And as a minor correction, Missouri was a 4 seed that year in the Midwest regional.

[Xavier]

I am really looking forward to SR night with these two. What a career so far.....just stinks the SR night game starts at 6:30. Can't imagine the crowd will be too big for the SR night stuff pregame with a start time like that.

[nuts4xu]

Nobody's mentioning Tyrone Hill & Derrick Strong at 3294. They were Seniors together & Strong only got to play 3 seasons.

Those 2 didn't play 4 full seasons together, while the above list is detailing duos that played together all 4 years.

[Cheesehead]

Sato will always be my all time favorite player. 2,000 points and 892 rebounds. Just sick for a SG.

should have his number retired, IMO

[gladdenguy]

Can we get an update? I don't know if I can go on with my Friday without one.

[XMuskieFTW]

Can we get an update? I don't know if I can go on with my Friday without one.

Ask and you shall receive! Tre on pace to finish 2nd with 2340 and JP on pace to finish 16th with 1562 once we win the BE tourney and national championship.

[xu koop scoop]

Sato is about to be passed & want to express a memory of him & Skip Prosser. As a Senior in High School Sato was playing at Wyoming High School. Three of us who were Season Tix holders went to that game & sat midcourt just to watch Sato. Skip shows up around tip time & sits directly in front of us. He turns around & says "I've seen you guys before - especially you" - pointing at me. I used to dress as Cat in the Hat & show up for the Monday Radio Show during season & ask Skip rhyming questions. Used to see Skip at Hap's Pub & he would sing Irish tunes out back. Sato threw down several dunks vs Wyoming that day & Wyoming had one big guy that did OK guarding Sato. Sadly, Skip has passed on & so has my friend Milan who was at that High School game with me.
God Bless my buddies in XU Heaven.

[gladdenguy]

Ask and you shall receive! Tre on pace to finish 2nd with 2340 and JP on pace to finish 16th with 1562 once we win the BE tourney and national championship.

Thank you. I'm able to go on with my day.

[UCGRAD4X]

Sato is about to be passed & want to express a memory of him & Skip Prosser. As a Senior in High School Sato was playing at Wyoming High School. Three of us who were Season Tix holders went to that game & sat midcourt just to watch Sato. Skip shows up around tip time & sits directly in front of us. He turns around & says "I've seen you guys before - especially you" - pointing at me. I used to dress as Cat in the Hat & show up for the Monday Radio Show during season & ask Skip rhyming questions. Used to see Skip at Hap's Pub & he would sing Irish tunes out back. Sato threw down several dunks vs Wyoming that day & Wyoming had one big guy that did OK guarding Sato. Sadly, Skip has passed on & so has my friend Milan who was at that High School game with me.
God Bless my buddies in XU Heaven.

So, you're saying there is no one to verify your claims.

All kidding aside, any anecdote about Skip is worth hearing, not matter how well corroborated...or not :).

Thanks

[GIMMFD]

Ask and you shall receive! Tre on pace to finish 2nd with 2340 and JP on pace to finish 16th with 1562 once we win the BE tourney and national championship.

Holy crap, 340 more points if we make it all the way to both championships??? That's insane..

[American X]

Xavier Nation Magazine Feature: The Power of Two (http://goxavier.com/news/2017/12/18/featured-xavier-nation-magazine-feature-the-power-of-two.aspx)

J.P. Macura and Trevon Bluiett sit down to talk to Xavier Nation Magazine about, what else? Each other.

One half of what could be the most prolific scoring duo in Xavier men's basketball history is needling the other half. Because that is what they do: Score lots of points and needle each other. We sat down and asked this dynamic duo to tell us about each other.

[xu koop scoop]

So, you're saying there is no one to verify your claims.

All kidding aside, any anecdote about Skip is worth hearing, not matter how well corroborated...or not :).

Thanks

There were 2 friends with me at that Sato High School Game. 1 deceased, the other very much alive and living in Kenwood. So, I do have a witness to verify this nice Skip story.

[xu koop scoop]

Steve Thomas deserves to have number retired & wish school would consider it. Another, pre 1980, who deserve more recognition would be Bob Pelkington who led country in rebounding twice.

[xeus]

Steve Thomas deserves to have number retired & wish school would consider it. Another, pre 1980, who deserve more recognition would be Bob Pelkington who led country in rebounding twice.

If we retire #10, I hope it would be for Romain Sato, or, perhaps, both Romain and Steve.

[bjf123]

If we retire #10, I hope it would be for Romain Sato, or, perhaps, both Romain and Steve.

My vote would be for Steve, but I’m old enough to have seen him play.


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[Emp]

Steve Thomas deserves to have number retired & wish school would consider it. Another, pre 1980, who deserve more recognition would be Bob Pelkington who led country in rebounding twice.

Faulty memory. Once, not twice.

And the way he won as a senior........well, lets just say its like sausage, you dont wanna see how it is done.

And there is no way he should have his number retired. The career leading rebounder in front of him is in another class, by himself, and his number is retired for a reason.

[X Factor]

Sato will always be my all time favorite player. 2,000 points and 892 rebounds. Just sick for a SG.

Agree, and the defense he played as well. He always drew the opponent's best offensive player. He was a warrior.

Had a 19 point, 15 rebound game as a sophomore in a win at UD. Beast for a 6'3 SG.

[SemajParlor]

Xavier Nation Magazine Feature: The Power of Two (http://goxavier.com/news/2017/12/18/featured-xavier-nation-magazine-feature-the-power-of-two.aspx)

This article made look up Kenny Frease career. He had 1100 points and over 700 rebounds. Added 15 minutes a game to 2 S16's teams and played a significant starting role in a Third S16 run. Dare I say King Kenny had a slightly underrated career?

[Cincypunk.org]

This article made look up Kenny Frease career. He had 1100 points and over 700 rebounds. Added 15 minutes a game to 2 S16's teams and played a significant starting role in a Third S16 run. Dare I say King Kenny had a slightly underrated career?

He definitely did! People on this board loved to hate on King Kenny too.

[XUFan09]

He definitely did! People on this board loved to hate on King Kenny too.
This article made look up Kenny Frease career. He had 1100 points and over 700 rebounds. Added 15 minutes a game to 2 S16's teams and played a significant starting role in a Third S16 run. Dare I say King Kenny had a slightly underrated career?Yup. And it was because people didn't understand what to expect from a center ranked around 50. So many fans' expectations seem to reflect a top 10 center instead, which was just unrealistic.

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[mid major]

So my basic math, which I didn't learn from Father Isenecker(aka Easy Ike) in the friendly confines of Alter Hall, has Tre with 2014 total points and JP with 1339. Last night Bluiett passed David West and Tea time Hill whilst JP overtook Jumping Jamal and the legendary Joe Viviano. If someone has different numbers please correct me.

[powerofX]

So my basic math, which I didn't learn from Father Isenecker(aka Easy Ike) in the friendly confines of Alter Hall, has Tre with 2014 total points and JP with 1339. Last night Bluiett passed David West and Tea time Hill whilst JP overtook Jumping Jamal and the legendary Joe Viviano. If someone has different numbers please correct me.

Not disputing numbers but tre did not pass west. He’s number two all time...tre will get there soon. He passed t time and “speaks six languages” Romain sato

[mid major]

[QUOTE=powerofX;609129]Not disputing numbers but tre did not pass west. He’s number two all time...tre will get there soon. He passed t time and “speaks six languages” Romain sato[/QUOTE

Thanks for the correction. I guess Sato never picked up a 7th language. Spanish would've been ideal as he played for six years in the Liga Endesa. Doellman did pick up Spanish as he played his entire career in Spain.

[xu82]

So my basic math, which I didn't learn from Father Isenecker(aka Easy Ike) in the friendly confines of Alter Hall, has Tre with 2014 total points and JP with 1339. Last night Bluiett passed David West and Tea time Hill whilst JP overtook Jumping Jamal and the legendary Joe Viviano. If someone has different numbers please correct me.

Easy Ike! My favorite!

I took calculus from Doc Webb, and I got what I think was the only D of my life. I was pissed! I thought a D was misleading because it implied I learned something, which I certainly did not! The only thing I knew was how to find the classroom, which was knowledge I wish I’d never had.

Enter Easy Ike! I took the class over, giggling at the thought that I was cheating in some way, until I realized this was pretty much the same stuff, except he was trying to teach, and he actually could. The Dean of any department seems to like to make too much of their specialty.

[Lloyd Braun]

Update:

Sato/Chalmers- 3561
Bluiett/Macura- 3489
Brown/Lumpkin- 3392
Larkin/Campbell- 3058
Holloway/Frease- 2936
Gladden/Williams- 2853
Burrell/Duncan- 2822

Still on pace for Senior Night to be the game they move to 1st.

[XMuskieFTW]

Would be awesome to see Tre pass DWest for points and Sato for 3s during the Villanova game.

[GoMuskies]

If Trevon scores 37 points ever game the rest of the way and we play 40 games, he'll finish a mere 101 points short of Byron Larkin.

[Muskeagle]

If Trevon scores 37 points ever game the rest of the way and we play 40 games, he'll finish a mere 101 points short of Byron Larkin.

More importantly, if he scores 37 points on 12 shots a game, every game from now until the end of the year, we will win a National Championship.

[Muskie]

He definitely did! People on this board loved to hate on King Kenny too.
Kenny was a victim of his own recruiting hype. He was a good player. But could never meet the hype.

[XUFan09]

Kenny was a victim of his own recruiting hype. He was a good player. But could never meet the hype.And to complement that, he was a victim of Xavier fans' misunderstanding of his ranking. He was ranked on the back end of the top 50 as a center. That projects a good player who will immediately contribute (which he did), not a conference POY candidate.

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[waggy]

Kenny did not have good hands.

[Muskie]

Xavier senior Trevon Bluiett (http://goxavier.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=4238) is sixth in the BIG EAST in scoring at 19.6 ppg. following his 37-point game on Wed. Bluiett has scored 2,114 points, good for third place on XU's all-time scoring list, and has scored 1,021 career points in BIG EAST play.

[Snipe]

he definitely did! People on this board loved to hate on king kenny too.

King Kenny!!!

[stammina0721]

Kenny did not have good hands.

But I think we can all agree in his last tournament King Kenny played like the best center in college basketball. He was really good

[Lloyd Braun]

If my math is correct:

Sato/Chalmers- 3561
Bluiett/Macura- 3551

[xu koop scoop]

If Tre scores 2 pts per game for the rest of this Season / Post Season & we win them all I would be happy. I wonder how many Pts Tre averages at Cintas vs away or neutral games. Betting JP averages more in road/neutral games than at home. Who leads our team in Career Pts in NCAA Tourney Games? Who is the Best Tandem in Career Pts in NCAA Tourney?

[XUFan09]

If my math is correct:

Sato/Chalmers- 3561
Bluiett/Macura- 3551

Are we really going to see Trevon and J.P. become the all-time scoring duo in school history? Because that's just awesome.

[Lloyd Braun]

Are we really going to see Trevon and J.P. become the all-time scoring duo in school history? Because that's just awesome.

On senior night.... chills.

[XUFan09]

On senior night.... chills.Oh yeah, I meant to add that! It was key to how cool this is.

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[muskiefan82]

This was all part of Trevon's plan. He knew where they stood points wise so when he saw Macura was going to score 20 or so points at Georgetown and that the others were playing well, he missed most of this shots so they could set the record in front of all of us at the Cintas. Just like he waited to get 2000 at the Cintas. He saw JP was on fire at Seton Hall (27 points) so he backed off and only scored 15 so he could get the 2000th point at home.

I see what you are doing Trevon. I appreciate it. Well done sir.

(and no, I'm not serious)

[GIMMFD]

Oh yeah, I meant to add that! It was key to how cool this is.

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Ended up working out just perfectly with Tre going anemic at Georgetown.

[Lloyd Braun]

Congrats to Tre and JP.

[GIMMFD]

Congrats to Tre and JP.

Now the only order of business left is Tre hitting 1 three against DePaul and beating Sato's record. What a freaking career for these guys, deserve this to the moon and back.

[Snipe]

That worked out perfectly for senior night. Storybook stuff.

Still ticked that JP fouled out and didn't get the proper curtain call. Prolly the only thing that really ticked me off all night.

[paulxu]

If you have no seniors (Kentucky), do you have a "freshman" night for the one-and-dones?