Jared Ridder to transfer?

[BMoreX]

BarstoolReags‏ @BarstoolReags 1m1 minute ago

Source: Freshman Jared Ridder is expected to announce his decision to transfer from Xavier.




Odd timing, to say the least.

[drudy23]

WTF man? Recruiting continues to take a kick to the nuts.

[THRILLHOUSE]

Just mentioned this on the Ridder recruitment post, but I see he doesn't mention X at all on his Twitter profile anymore either. So it certainly looks like he's leaving. Very odd timing. Is he homesick? Not liking it at X in his first month at school? Welp, sucks, but good luck to the kid.

[xufan2434]

Looks to be true. He arrived early and was just with the guys in NY. Hope everything is alright

[XU3232]

Crazy past few weeks to say the least..

[Juice]

Maybe recruits will see we have more playing time to offer now?

[GreatWhiteNorth]

Down to 10 players now........not counting Big Ken.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Huge bummer here, kid is a great shooter. If true, I hope there is something awesome about 2018 recruiting on the horizon.

[xu82]

Maybe recruits will see we have more playing time to offer now?

I love the optimism! (And pray there's something to it...)

[GIMMFD]

First and foremost, I want to say I wish Ridder well and hope there's no underlying issues or problems, and he's okay. Secondly, I really liked when the biggest news we had was Trevon coming back, *sigh* oh well, next man up I guess. Unfortunate losing a shooter, we're gonna need one with Macura and Tre leaving after this year. Hopefully as mentioned above that it opens up a 2018 prospect.

[THRILLHOUSE]

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[X Factor]

Unbelievable. What the heck is going on?

[Masterofreality]

One of the weirdest things I've ever seen.

[GreatWhiteNorth]

Any idea as to where he is transferring to? I hope it is worth it for him because now he has to sit a year.

[Juice]

Any idea as to where he is transferring to? I hope it is worth it for him because now he has to sit a year.

Word is somewhere close to home.

[SlimKibbles]

Word is somewhere close to home.

Missouri State is closest, right? Or maybe Cuonzo Martin will get him. I wish the kid all the best wherever he ends up.

[xu82]

Seems odd for sure, and I have no idea what happened, but I'll wish him all the best.

[Masterofreality]

Sounds like small-town / big city homesickness-culture shock.

[xeus]

Good riddance. Kid clearly doesn't have what it takes to be a champion.

[Muskie in dayton]

One of the weirdest things I've ever seen.

The reality is that a lot of college freshmen get homesick. It sucks but it's not weird.

[throwbackmuskie]

Good riddance. Kid clearly doesn't have what it takes to be a champion.

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[mistabeecee41]

Don't feel like this is a huge loss, though it does compound the pain from all of the '18 strikeouts
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[Emp]

Completely unnecessary


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What he said. I'm disappointed, too, but piling on an 18 year old with no info is bull.

[xeus]

Completely unnecessary


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Oh I'm sorry - would a post about how I wish this prick "all the best" and a " bright future" sound better to you? Please. He clearly doesn't belong here, so I'm glad he's leaving now. We're on to bigger and better things without him and his conflicted self.

[throwbackmuskie]

Oh I'm sorry - would a post about how I wish this prick "all the best" and a " bright future" sound better to you? Please. He clearly doesn't belong here, so I'm glad he's leaving now. We're on to bigger and better things without him and his conflicted self.

Unless you know the whole story, which I highly doubt you do, there is absolutely no reason to be a prick


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[Woodburn]

Oh I'm sorry - would a post about how I wish this prick "all the best" and a " bright future" sound better to you? Please. He clearly doesn't belong here, so I'm glad he's leaving now. We're on to bigger and better things without him and his conflicted self.Yep. It would. And you're a presumably grown man calling an 18 year old kid a "prick". Fuck off.

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[GIMMFD]

I can definitely see where Ridder is coming from, I was insanely home-sick for the first couple weeks at X when I got there fresh from West Virginia, I was pretty damn close to transferring to WVU after a semester, but things eventually got better. Some people have different mentalities and wants, you gotta respect their wishes. I mean how many of us really had it all figured out at 18?

[nuts4xu]

Oh I'm sorry - would a post about how I wish this prick "all the best" and a " bright future" sound better to you? Please. He clearly doesn't belong here, so I'm glad he's leaving now. We're on to bigger and better things without him and his conflicted self.

I love when Xeus brings the heat. He just said what many of us were thinking anyway.

[Woodburn]

Guys hiding behind an online username trashing an 18 year old with a real name.

"Bringing the heat." Sorry but this is clownish.

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[XUGRAD80]

I expect better from Xavier people, then again who,knows if these are really Xavier people anyway? Wonder how they would feel if it was a kid from the area that had gone to OSU, Uk, or Duke but decided to leave there after a month and return home? Bet they wouldn't be calling him names then. There'd probably be heaping praise on him for getting out of there as soon as he could and for making a wise decision. Give it a rest guys. Your immaturity and lack of compassion is nauseating. The only thing stronger than the contempt I feel for posts like those is the pity I feel for those that make them.

[UCGRAD4X]

I agree with the idea that if he is not truly and wholeheartedly committed to the program and is going to carry this conflicted mentality into the season and have it affect is game and the continuity of the team, it certainly best for everybody concerned, including Jared Ridder, that he go home.

It sucks!

I think "Swish" could have been a great benefit to Xavier, but only if his heart was in it. Best of luck to him.

Now, go out and find someone who can light em up from deep and wants to remain a Musketeer through the rigor and sometimes heartache that comes with being part of a big-time program like X.

[bobandtim]

I expect better from Xavier people, then again who,knows if these are really Xavier people anyway? Wonder how they would feel if it was a kid from the area that had gone to OSU, Uk, or Duke but decided to leave there after a month and return home? Bet they wouldn't be calling him names then. There'd probably be heaping praise on him for getting out of there as soon as he could and for making a wise decision. Give it a rest guys. Your immaturity and lack of compassion is nauseating. The only thing stronger than the contempt I feel for posts like those is the pity I feel for those that make them.

I think the young man made a well informed and well thought out decision. He talked to his family,our coaches and others. He arrived early and worked hard from what has been said about him. Lets support the decision he has made...lets
move on to another great recruit....and hope he and Xavier have a great year.....go Xavier....go Jared!!

[Roadlife]

Sounds like small-town / big city homesickness-culture shock.

Springfield is the third-largest city in the state of Missouri and the county seat of Greene County. As of the 2010 census, its population was 159,498. As of 2016, the Census Bureau estimated its population at 167,319


I posted the above before I had completely read the thread.
I'd like to add that Zeus is entirely out of line with his remarks, especially as an "official" of this forum.

[bleedXblue]

I remember seeing a lot of social media stuff with Ridder and a girlfriend. If I had to guess, this is likely a big reason why.

[letskeepitreal]

Cincinnati is not that big a city so I would be surprised if that is the reason. More likely homesick, kid didn't like X or saw something re: competition re: playing time. Hard to be "the man" in high school and find out that you're not all that.

[X-man]

I am sorry to see him go. I had this theory that he, of all our new recruits this season, was going to be the big surprise.

[X Factor]

Another reason why we need to bring in another really good recruiting class for 2018. You never know who's gonna transfer or what's going to happen in the offseason.

One subpar recruiting class can have a big impact.

[Roadlife]

I remember seeing a lot of social media stuff with Ridder and a girlfriend. If I had to guess, this is likely a big reason why.
Many reasons recruits choose a school. Hormones are often overlooked.
Ain't love grand? :jawdrop2:

[MHettel]

Good riddance. weak minded. Homesick. Really?

We have a finite number of scholarships. He accepts one, then quits because he's homesick. Thanks for leaving us high and dry, loser. Go back home to mommy.

[OH.X.MI]

BarstoolReags‏ @BarstoolReags 1m1 minute ago

Source: Freshman Jared Ridder is expected to announce his decision to transfer from Xavier.

Odd timing, to say the least.

Barstool Sports with the scoop!!

[xeus]

Wow, what a bunch of babies. Look, this kid isn't a 12 year old little girl gymnast. He's an 18 year old young man who has been highly recruited by schools across the country. He knows exactly what he signed up for. He had many excellent options, hours of wooing, advice, and consideration. And he chose Xavier, temporarily.
Meanwhile, Xavier chases kids around the country, selling the excellence of the school and the program. We are lucky enough to have a young man commit to X, a way of life, a group of teammates, and we justifiably depend on that young man's commitment. But then he decides to quit? To leave? That he's "homesick" or that some other commitment has suddenly become more important?
I'm sorry, but I don't applaud that behavior. This kid left a program and a group of other young men high and dry. One of you told me to "fuck off" - which is exactly what Ridder said to Xavier, and Trevon Blueitt, and Chris Mack.
I'm not happy about it, and I think this kid owes Xavier an apology. he doesn't owe ME anything, but he owes Chris Mack and every coach and team member a personal, heartfelt apology. Pretty sure that ain't happening based on what I've seen of this kid's character so far.
For entertainment purposes only, here are some of my favorite sanctimonious comments:



Completely unnecessary

It's 90 degrees today. And yet there are snowflakes everywhere.


Fuck off.

Geez, that's a little strong isn't it Mrs Ridder? Check yourself counselor.


Guys hiding behind an online username trashing an 18 year old with a real name.

Feel free to post your real name fruitcake.


I expect better from Xavier people, then again who,knows if these are really Xavier people anyway?

Good point - it could be that I've been a moderator here for almost ten years despite being a huge Dayton fan.


The only thing stronger than the contempt I feel for posts like those is the pity I feel for those that make them.

Aww. That's touching. The depth of your sensitivity is impressive. I'll be sure to turn in my reflection paper.


I'd like to add that Zeus is entirely out of line with his remarks, especially as an "official" of this forum.

ENTIRELY out of line, or just a little? Grow up Roadlife.


Coddle this defenseless innocent little boy all you want, but he fucked over a lot of people. Would be funny to see what some of you people would think if X told Ridder that they had changed their minds and revoked his scholarship.

[GoMuskies]

I wish Ridder the exact amount of luck I wish other non-Xavier players.

[AviatorX]

Wow, what a bunch of babies. Look, this kid isn't a 12 year old little girl gymnast. He's an 18 year old young man who has been highly recruited by schools across the country. He knows exactly what he signed up for. He had many excellent options, hours of wooing, advice, and consideration. And he chose Xavier, temporarily.
Meanwhile, Xavier chases kids around the country, selling the excellence of the school and the program. We are lucky enough to have a young man commit to X, a way of life, a group of teammates, and we justifiably depend on that young man's commitment. But then he decides to quit? To leave? That he's "homesick" or that some other commitment has suddenly become more important?
I'm sorry, but I don't applaud that behavior. This kid left a program and a group of other young men high and dry. One of you told me to "fuck off" - which is exactly what Ridder said to Xavier, and Trevon Blueitt, and Chris Mack.
I'm not happy about it, and I think this kid owes Xavier an apology. he doesn't owe ME anything, but he owes Chris Mack and every coach and team member a personal, heartfelt apology. Pretty sure that ain't happening based on what I've seen of this kid's character so far.
For entertainment purposes only, here are some of my favorite sanctimonious comments:




It's 90 degrees today. And yet there are snowflakes everywhere.



Geez, that's a little strong isn't it Mrs Ridder? Check yourself counselor.



Feel free to post your real name fruitcake.



Good point - it could be that I've been a moderator here for almost ten years despite being a huge Dayton fan.



Aww. That's touching. The depth of your sensitivity is impressive. I'll be sure to turn in my reflection paper.



ENTIRELY out of line, or just a little? Grow up Roadlife.


Coddle this defenseless innocent little boy all you want, but he fucked over a lot of people. Would be funny to see what some of you people would think if X told Ridder that they had changed their minds and revoked his scholarship.

Lol.

[bleedXblue]

I will say, that only giving this a month or so of school and not sticking it out for at least a year is very strange. Borderline soft and weak.

[throwbackmuskie]

Wow, what a bunch of babies. Look, this kid isn't a 12 year old little girl gymnast. He's an 18 year old young man who has been highly recruited by schools across the country. He knows exactly what he signed up for. He had many excellent options, hours of wooing, advice, and consideration. And he chose Xavier, temporarily.
Meanwhile, Xavier chases kids around the country, selling the excellence of the school and the program. We are lucky enough to have a young man commit to X, a way of life, a group of teammates, and we justifiably depend on that young man's commitment. But then he decides to quit? To leave? That he's "homesick" or that some other commitment has suddenly become more important?
I'm sorry, but I don't applaud that behavior. This kid left a program and a group of other young men high and dry. One of you told me to "fuck off" - which is exactly what Ridder said to Xavier, and Trevon Blueitt, and Chris Mack.
I'm not happy about it, and I think this kid owes Xavier an apology. he doesn't owe ME anything, but he owes Chris Mack and every coach and team member a personal, heartfelt apology. Pretty sure that ain't happening based on what I've seen of this kid's character so far.
For entertainment purposes only, here are some of my favorite sanctimonious comments:




It's 90 degrees today. And yet there are snowflakes everywhere.



Geez, that's a little strong isn't it Mrs Ridder? Check yourself counselor.



Feel free to post your real name fruitcake.



Good point - it could be that I've been a moderator here for almost ten years despite being a huge Dayton fan.



Aww. That's touching. The depth of your sensitivity is impressive. I'll be sure to turn in my reflection paper.



ENTIRELY out of line, or just a little? Grow up Roadlife.


Coddle this defenseless innocent little boy all you want, but he fucked over a lot of people. Would be funny to see what some of you people would think if X told Ridder that they had changed their minds and revoked his scholarship.

You are the snowflake for getting upset a 18 year old kid made a decision that effects his life. Grow the f u ck up.


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[MauriceX]

You are the snowflake for getting upset a 18 year old kid made a decision that effects his life.

I do think it is funny that you hear the people calling people "snowflakes" complaining more about things than the people they call snowflakes. And saying that Ridder needs to apologize? Seems like a pretty "snowflake" thing to ask.

Maybe we need to change the Jesuit motto to "Men and women for others, unless they do something we don't like, in which case, screw 'em"

That said, best of luck to the young man! I hope he gets whatever he was looking for by choosing to leave X. I for one am sad to see him go.

[LA Muskie]

Xeus trolled. And you all bit.

[xu82]

Xeus trolled. And you all bit.

Do you mean....he's NOT a Dayton fan?

[Muskie]

Xeus trolled. And you all bit.

I think he's doing a parody of 45.


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[Xavier]

Good riddance. Kid clearly doesn't have what it takes to be a champion.

Well, Xavier hasn't won a championship since joining the Big East....

[Emp]

Xeus trolled. And you all bit.

He trolled ......and trolled some more.....still trolling...... Please.

It's a parody? Parodies are funny and obvious. . This isn't either.

If that's supposed to be funny, gunning down a kid on a message board for a parody of some other sick retard poster, it's one gigantic crude fail.

[GIMMFD]

I don't even know what the hell is going on anymore..

[sirthought]

Cincinnati is not that big a city so I would be surprised if that is the reason. More likely homesick, kid didn't like X or saw something re: competition re: playing time. Hard to be "the man" in high school and find out that you're not all that.

Ha! I know students who couldn't handle Athens, OH because it was too many people and too much commotion for them. They had to drive home every weekend to chill the eff out. Some of these kids live very sheltered lives.

[mid major]

I will say, that only giving this a month or so of school and not sticking it out for at least a year is very strange. Borderline soft and weak.

I mean you are going to have to sit out a year anyway so why not give it a go for a semester, at least.

[bleedXblue]

I mean you are going to have to sit out a year anyway so why not give it a go for a semester, at least.

Exactly......rarely do these kinds of decisions not get second guessed for the rest of your life. Suck it up and at least give it a go a year. If you're still feeling the same way, then make the move. Leaving after less than a month of school?

[GreatWhiteNorth]

I suspect that we were not told the whole story. Besides being homesick, there might be other undisclosed reasons for his decision. Leaving school after less than a month?

[XUGRAD80]

As others have said, we don't know the whole story. There are LOTS and LOTS of reasons why he might choose to do what he did and after all, it's HIS life, not ours. Why not let him live it without all the 2nd quesssing, innuendo, and negative comments?

[GoMuskies]

Leaving school after less than a month?

It's not all that unusual. Lots of kids basically get to school and turn around and come right back home. If one of my kids wants to do that, he or she will be living in the front yard for a while.

[XU 87]

Does anyone know- is he finishing the semester or is he leaving school now?

[XUGRAD80]

My daughter went away to school and came back at the end of the 1st semester. She finished school locally and is a successful wife, mother, and manager in a financial services company. I went away to school as a recruit and transferred back to X after 1 year. Got my degree and like to think i had a successful family and wok life. She was homesick. I was recruited and then the school dropped plans for the sport I was recruited for. 2 different reasons for transferring. There are plenty more. Let's remember that Coach Mack was a transfer into X to. He gave 2 years (half a college career) to his former school, then came to X to give them what should have been his 2 most valuable years. Does anyone criticize him for not finishing his career at the 1 school? People need to stop criticizing the kid for his decision or his timing.

[Smails]

He trolled ......and trolled some more.....still trolling...... Please.

It's a parody? Parodies are funny and obvious. . This isn't either.

If that's supposed to be funny, gunning down a kid on a message board for a parody of some other sick retard poster, it's one gigantic crude fail.

'Gunning down a kid'....really? Sheesh. Also, I'm surprised that someone of your moral caliber would use the term 'retard' on a message board. What a terrible word to use from such a civilized and grounded poster. Shame.....shame....shame... It's almost as if you had some sort of unchecked emotional response and didn't think before you typed.

[cutterX]

18 yr old kid decides XU isn't for him and he moves on. Big deal. Next man up. No reason to pile on the kid because he chose to leave our beloved Muskies. It's not like he's kneeling during the anthem or anything!! Grown men bashing a kid on the internet because of it just seems pathetic to me. Isn't there a puppy somewhere you guys could find to kick?

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Good luck to him, he decided X wasn't the right place for him and honestly that's alright with me. I wish him the best like any other recruit that transfers out. That said, I hope me made an informed decision.

He came early, practiced, and knew what it was like to be away from home. It could be homesick, it could be practicing with super athletic guys like Marshall and Scruggs. Who knows?

[MHettel]

As others have said, we don't know the whole story. There are LOTS and LOTS of reasons why he might choose to do what he did and after all, it's HIS life, not ours. Why not let him live it without all the 2nd quesssing, innuendo, and negative comments?

Did you read anything that was posted? He let the team down. Ran home to the nipple. Didn't gut it out at all.

I have a word for guys like this: "quitter"

[Juice]

Did you read anything that was posted? He let the team down. Ran home to the nipple. Didn't gut it out at all.

I have a word for guys like this: "quitter"

He was barely going to play 5 minutes a game this year. How did he let anyone down?

It's just a shitty situation for him, the team, and the coaches. It doesn't need to be anything more than that.

[XMuskieFTW]

This doesn't affect the team at all in 17-18. It makes 18-19 a little more difficult(mostly due to our lack of landing recruits), but I'd also rather him decide to transfer now than next July when it would potentially put us in a bad spot for 18-19. This way, we have plenty of time to make up for his absence when we actually would have needed him.

[BandAid]

This is a bummer. Happy trails Jared. I’m sure you made an appropriate decision for yourself.

Unless there’s a girl involved. If that’s the case you better be damned sure you’re gonna marry her, because you’re making a huge life decision.

[smileyy]

I like the Banners on the Parkway take:


Word is Ridder wanted to be closer to his home in Missouri, prompting his decision to leave the program. It’s worth noting that Xavier isn’t any farther away form(sic) Missouri when it was when Ridder committed.

[GoMuskies]

That would make more sense if we were talking about someone who had been away from home before. He may have thought he could handle it, but it turns out he couldn't. Happens all the time. Disappointing (particularly the amount of time he stuck it out) but not unusual.

[bleedXblue]

I like the Banners on the Parkway take:

exactly....

You get a handful of opportunities each year to recruit kids and build your program and strategy around them. I get the fact that he's 18 and wants to go home, but disappointed he didn't stick it out longer and really give it a chance.

[GoMuskies]

Perhaps Ridder finally met Luther Smith?

Sorry, remnants from digging out a Dez Wells thread.

[XUMIOH12]

as it seemed to be expected, Ridder is heading to Missouri State

[LA Muskie]

I'm shocked at the reactions. First of all, Ridder would have been lucky to see 5 mins/game this year, and likely never would have been more than a role player. It's not like he's leaving us in the lurch.

More fundamentally, kids transfer all the time. For countless reasons. Players leave. Coaches leave. And neither of them owe us anything. This is their life. Their education. Their development. Their career. If a kid decides it's not the right situation for them, and they are willing to "pay" the consequences (a year off the court), they have every right to transfer. Just as a coach has every right to not play a kid throughout his career (or, technically, not to renew a scholarship). Or to take another job and leave all his recruits behind.

[Pault]

I'm shocked at the reactions. First of all, Ridder would have been lucky to see 5 mins/game this year, and likely never would have been more than a role player. It's not like he's leaving us in the lurch.

More fundamentally, kids transfer all the time. For countless reasons. Players leave. Coaches leave. And neither of them owe us anything. This is their life. Their education. Their development. Their career. If a kid decides it's not the right situation for them, and they are willing to "pay" the consequences (a year off the court), they have every right to transfer. Just as a coach has every right to not play a kid throughout his career (or, technically, not to renew a scholarship). Or to take another job and leave all his recruits behind.Well said, LAMuskie...I recall back in the late 60's, I was at X...didn't know anyone on campus...was homesick as hell the first semester, and considered transferring. I stuck it out, and playing on the baseball team certainly helped. After we had fall practice and some simulated games, I felt more at home as I got to know some of the guys, and the "lay of the land" in Cincy. I am glad I did "tough it out." Some kids aren't going to make that adjustment...heck, how did we get Trevon? He originally committed to UCLA, but bailed and ended up at X...this appears to be almost the same scenario, but we are the one being "jilted." Good luck Jared...we hardly knew ya, nor did you know us (Xavier).

[UCGRAD4X]

To paraphrase LA - players come and go (some earlier than others) but eventually they go. Coaches come and go, with a varying degree of fanfare and fan appreciation. Administrators and even University Presidents also eventually move on, retire, or die. The one constant is we the fan-base, the diehard followers and supporters. Admittedly some of them are fleeting or wear out their welcome, but for the most part, and especially as a part of this forum, the great majority of us are lifers. Fear not. If Swish's change of heart affects the program negatively, I don't expect it to be a great deal. Sure, he may turn out to be a superstar in Missouri, which will bring on wailing and gnashing of teeth by many here, and many threads with mixed and perhaps angry submissions. But whose to say that his attitude here would have allowed him to progress similarly. Team fit, desire, dedication, plating time, injuries, players ahead of him transferring, graduating or experiencing injury and the sheer hard work it takes to succeed and excel in the Big East are all factors that a affect student who may or may not "have his heart in it" and make it difficult to predict degree of success. Heck, even students who show all the positive attributes for success, just don't earn a great deal of PT and become an irreplaceable cog in the musketeer machine.

That being said; the coaches/recruiters and particularly Mack, have a long term plan for the recruiting and try to fit all the pieces together to complement each other, the players that are here and the philosophy and profile of the team and team in general. One of those pieces is gone and another player with similar fit may be hard to find. This is unfortunate and a likely setback of one degree or another. Only time will tell to what degree, and all the variables, known and unknown, will make it difficult to measure that with much certainty (which will not stop some on this board to claim a degree of certainty).

I resent, a bit, Jared, the and his reneging on a commitment he made, presumably with a great deal of information, consideration and thought. I like to think Mack and the team made the lay of the land as clear as possible with all the aforementioned variables. He visited campus and the city, received a top-notch tour (I assume) and got an idea of what life will be like at Xavier. A great deal more that your average student. So, yeah, as I said, I harbor a bit of anger and disappointment, because I think the team would have benefited from his presence, and anything that I perceive as affecting the team negatively, ruffles my feathers a bit.

I also reflect GOMUSKIE's sentiment that I wish him as much luck as any non-Xavier player (maybe a bit more because he must have some positive and perhaps even admirable qualities to be pursued by Mack, and I like to root for the 'good guys').

But good-byes are always inevitable. This one much sooner than expected. Se la vie. We will survive. Next man up.

[Cheesehead]

Xeus, i am worried about you. Sometimes it doesn't work out as expected. I am sure he has had many conversations with the staff. I heard he did in fact, want to be closer to home. It's disappointing but calling 18 year old names is not the Xavier way, either.

[xeus]

Xeus, i am worried about you. Sometimes it doesn't work out as expected. I am sure he has had many conversations with the staff. I heard he did in fact, want to be closer to home. It's disappointing but calling 18 year old names is not the Xavier way, either.

Thanks for your concern. I'm so sorry I called this dickhead Jarred Ridder a prick and violated the Xavier Way.
You guys who buy into this "babe in the woods" storyline are hilarious. This kid knows the game of high level NCAA hoops recruiting. I don't care if he is 18, really his age has nothing to do with it.
He quit on X. Quit on Mack, and quit on his teammates. SORRY if I'm not as sensitive or forgiving as some of you Mother Teresa types.

[bobbiemcgee]

Maybe he got a sneaker deal from KEDS?

[muskiefan82]

Maybe he got a sneaker deal from KEDS?

Stride-Rite, I heard.

[94GRAD]

Maybe he got a sneaker deal from KEDS?


Stride-Rite, I heard.

My sources are telling me KangaROOS

[smileyy]

I stand with Xeus. Or kneel. Or something. Whatever it is we're doing these days.

[BandAid]

I stand with Xeus. Or kneel. Or something. Whatever it is we're doing these days.

Squat.

Squatting is the new kneeling.

[Smails]

My sources are telling me KangaROOS

Not even close... It was British Knights

[flatspat]

My sources are telling me KangaROOS

PF Flyers for those old enough to remember or Chuck Taylor hi tops from Converse

[Emp]

PF Flyers for those old enough to remember or BLACK Chuck Taylor hi tops from Converse

Fixed it for you. When I matriculated at X, only the Celtics and the Muskies were sporting black Chucks.

[GoMuskies]

Nevermind. You guys beat me to the joke...and did it better.

[Bill Kirvin]

I played for XU 1958-1962--we played with the Chuck Taylor black Chuck's. Reason being--Ray (baldy) Baldwin, our infamous trainer supposedly got a deal on these black sneakers. At the time he tried to sell us a bill of goods that u didn't have to look up and all u had to do was look for the black sneakers as you were running down the floor.
With Baldy..I rest my case!!!

[D-West & PO-Z]

If we let the transferring of one 3 star recruit before he ever even plays a second for XU negatively affect our basketball program in any substantial way we have much bigger problems on our hands. I would think coaches are more than ready and expecting some unexpected (does that make sense?) transfers of some of the middle to lower quality players on their teams every year. This cant be a huge deal.

[XU 87]

I played for XU 1958-1962--we played with the Chuck Taylor black Chuck's. Reason being--Ray (baldy) Baldwin, our infamous trainer supposedly got a deal on these black sneakers. At the time he tried to sell us a bill of goods that u didn't have to look up and all u had to do was look for the black sneakers as you were running down the floor.
With Baldy..I rest my case!!!

How much did Converse pay your parents so you would go to XU?

[GoMuskies]

If we let the transferring of one 3 star recruit before he ever even plays a second for XU negatively affect our basketball program in any substantial way we have much bigger problems on our hands. I would think coaches are more than ready and expecting some unexpected (does that make sense?) transfers of some of the middle to lower quality players on their teams every year. This cant be a huge deal.

If we don't give a shit if he leaves, why was he offered a scholarship in the first place?

[D-West & PO-Z]

If we don't give a shit if he leaves, why was he offered a scholarship in the first place?

I'm not saying its not disappointing but some seem to think it is a huge deal and really detrimental to X basketball. I am just saying I cant imagine it is as big of a deal as some feel it is.

Guys leave all the time that X gave scholarships to that no one cares about. I guess usually after they've shown they dont have much to contribute and we havent seen what Ridder could have given us but from my understanding it wasnt going to be a ton this year which is the one year him leaving impacts the most in terms of not having any time to replace his loss.

[bleedXblue]

I'm not saying its not disappointing but some seem to think it is a huge deal and really detrimental to X basketball. I am just saying I cant imagine it is as big of a deal as some feel it is.

Guys leave all the time that X gave scholarships to that no one cares about. I guess usually after they've shown they dont have much to contribute and we havent seen what Ridder could have given us but from my understanding it wasnt going to be a ton this year which is the one year him leaving impacts the most in terms of not having any time to replace his loss.

Its the timing and way in which he left........we have lost many guys over the years.....

[D-West & PO-Z]

Its the timing and way in which he left........we have lost many guys over the years.....

Again just dont see this as a huge problem or something to be so worked up about. Definitely dont see it as something that is going to hurt XU in any significant way.

Disappointing? Sure.

[pimpinthebox]

I'll weigh in here. I'm sure the kid had good reasons and all, but I'm really not up for babying him. Probably won't call him a name publicly, but behind closed doors and with a few beers in me, that may happen. You can't ignore the fact that the kid, in some way, screwed over X, his teammates, the program, the coaching staff, etc. And don't tell me how many minutes he wasn't going to play. It's a team. Everybody has a role - whether that's on the court during games, on the practice court, in the locker room, in a social environment, whatever.

I guess where I have a problem with it is that (as some have pointed out) he really didn't give it a fair shot. I know the kid got here early and all, but come on, stick it out for a year. Isn't that where we get the term "give it the ol' college try"? The word was that the kid could absolutely shoot the lights out, but couldn't play a lick of defense. I'm sure the staff told him what he'd have to do in order to get on the court and perhaps he decided he wasn't up for it. Thanks, buddy. If I had to guess how this played out, he's been in the coaches' offices getting "counseled" and at some point Mack and the staff must've been like, "Uhhh, okay, enough with this. We don't have the time to hold your hand any longer, wished the kid some customary good luck, closed the door behind him, and started looking forward. Has to be frustrating when you think about all the time and effort that goes into recruiting a kid.

[Lamont Sanford]

Well said, pimp. Ridder was the first in this recruiting class to be on campus back in June. Dude's been here for three months. He screwed over a lot of people. I just hope he returns every last piece of X gear we gave this snowflake.

[IM4X]

Good luck to him, he decided X wasn't the right place for him and honestly that's alright with me. I wish him the best like any other recruit that transfers out. That said, I hope me made an informed decision.

He came early, practiced, and knew what it was like to be away from home. It could be homesick, it could be practicing with super athletic guys like Marshall and Scruggs. Who knows?

Yeah, it seems no one here really knows the entire story- lots of speculation - so it seems unfair for us to be so harsh.

Curious choice of words in his statement on twitter: "I have decided it is in my best interest to leave Xavier University." And then, "Ultimately I need to put my well being before anything else."

Is it possible there is something else causing him to want to transfer other than a girl or possibly him being homesick? Could he have gotten into a fight with a player or a coach and now he is left feeling like there is some issue that is going to continue if he stays at the school?

[pimpinthebox]

Yeah, it seems no one here really knows the entire story- lots of speculation - so it seems unfair for us to be so harsh.

Curious choice of words in his statement on twitter: "I have decided it is in my best interest to leave Xavier University." And then, "Ultimately I need to put my well being before anything else."

Is it possible there is something else causing him to want to transfer other than a girl or possibly him being homesick? Could he have gotten into a fight with a player or a coach and now he is left feeling like there is some issue that is going to continue if he stays at the school?

That or he's simply a milquetoast.

[xeus]

Yeah, it seems no one here really knows the entire story- lots of speculation - so it seems unfair for us to be so harsh.

Curious choice of words in his statement on twitter: "I have decided it is in my best interest to leave Xavier University." And then, "Ultimately I need to put my well being before anything else."

Is it possible there is something else causing him to want to transfer other than a girl or possibly him being homesick? Could he have gotten into a fight with a player or a coach and now he is left feeling like there is some issue that is going to continue if he stays at the school?

Yeah, it is so unfair to be harsh, but fair and responsible to randomly and recklessly speculate about what may have happened.

[MHettel]

Again just dont see this as a huge problem or something to be so worked up about. Definitely dont see it as something that is going to hurt XU in any significant way.

Disappointing? Sure.

I don't think this is really going to have any meaningful long term impact on the program. Or, short term impact for that matter.

And, I'm certainly not disappointed.

But I will call this kid a quitter, since.....well he did quit.

[94GRAD]

I don't think this is really going to have any meaningful long term impact on the program. Or, short term impact for that matter.

And, I'm certainly not disappointed.

But I will call this kid a quitter, since.....well he did quit.

This is the main reason I won't quit drinking.... I don't want to labeled a quitter!

[flatspat]

This is the main reason I won't quit drinking.... I don't want to labeled a quitter!

you are good for 9 strong innings every time out. no need for a bullpen or a closer

[Muskie]

I think we've beaten this horse to death.