Indiana Recruit claims he was forced out

[Muskie]

Link (http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/indiana/hoosier-insider/2017/08/21/iu-basketball-transfer-grant-gelon-i-wanted-stay/587950001/)

Gelon, who appeared in 12 games for the Hoosiers as a freshman last winter, transferred to State Fair Community College in Missouri this summer. But Gelon told IndyStar he feels he was forced out of the IU program, and is disappointed with the way coach Archie Miller handled his situation.
“At the beginning, they brought me in, sat me down. It wasn’t even really at the end of the (spring semester),” Gelon said. “I had five or six workouts with (IU’s new coaching staff). I’m thinking everything’s all right. We’re talking about summer plans.”
Instead, Gelon said the staff told him he would not find playing time in Bloomington, and that he should consider transfer options.

[GoMuskies]

I don't see what's wrong with that.

[AviatorX]

IU also offered to honor his scholarship and let him remain as a full-time student.

Look where he wound up.

Gelon would probably captain the Crean All-Reach Team and that's saying something when you look at some of the "projects" he took on over the years.

[muskiefan82]

IU also offered to honor his scholarship and let him remain as a full-time student.

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They actually have no choice. It's Indiana law.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Yeah, even the way Gelon put it I don't see much of an issue here. This stuff happens all the time. Did he expect to just 'get' PT next year?

[muskiefan82]

My understanding is that he could have stayed and been a part of the team, but the coach said you probably won't play at all.

[GoMuskies]

My understanding is that he could have stayed and been a part of the team, but the coach said you probably won't play at all.

That sounds a lot like what my high school coach said to me (minus the "you can be a part of the team" part).

[Muskie]

My understanding is that he could have stayed and been a part of the team, but the coach said you probably won't play at all. No. they wanted his scholarship spot. He would not have been on the team.

[xu82]

This happens so much I'm surprised it doesn't get out in the open more. I mean, we all know it happens but guys just rarely talk about it.

[ammtd34]

People get cut all the time.

[D-West & PO-Z]

People get cut all the time.

True but its too bad the student athletes cant do the same thing without being forced to sit out a year. And on top of that being restricted on where they can go.

[XU 87]

I have no problem with telling a player, "You're never going to play here. You really need to consider transferring."

I do have a problem with, "You're never going to play here. We're not renewing your scholarship."

That said, I'm probably splitting hairs with the difference between the two scenarios. The end result is still the same- the player transfers.

[Mrs. Garrett]

I have no problem with forcing a player out. I do feel like when the transfer is because of the coach, the player should not have to sit out.

I feel like when kids transfer, it's always spun as the kid was unhappy.

[bleedXblue]

Kids aren't going to stick around when they're being told that they wont be playing. Its a very "polite" way of telling a player they aren't part of the future. Mostly happens to the younger kids who may have been a reach or a last minute recruit. I have no issue with it at all.

[xeus]

It's tough. It reminds me of some tough calls I've had to make as a moderator.

Sometimes I have to say to a poster, "Look kid, you can keep posting, but nobody likes you, and I'm probably going to delete a lot of your posts." It's the toughest job a moderator has. In many ways it is easier, and more humane, to simply ban them.

[LA Muskie]

The transfer rule sucks for precisely this reason. But if it didn't exist, coaches would be poaching players left and right. It's really a no-win situation.

[D-West & PO-Z]

The transfer rule sucks for precisely this reason. But if it didn't exist, coaches would be poaching players left and right. It's really a no-win situation.

I think you would get some of that but not nearly the level of transferring and poaching that coaches and schools would want you to believe. Just another way for them to justify having all the control while the players have almost none.

[LA Muskie]

I think you would get some of that but not nearly the level of transferring and poaching that coaches and schools would want you to believe. Just another way for them to justify having all the control while the players have almost none.
I don't know. If players could transfer without sitting I think there would be a lot of shenanigans going on behind the scenes. I do, however, think that players should be released without restriction and without having to sit out a year if their head coach leaves.

[xeus]

The transfer rule sucks for precisely this reason. But if it didn't exist, coaches would be poaching players left and right. It's really a no-win situation.

Fortunately, posters who are"discouraged" from participating in the xavierhoops.com forum are eligible to transfer to musketeermadness.com without having to sit out a year, similar to a transfer to a junior college.