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mistabeecee41
08-18-2017, 05:58 PM
Got one! 6'11 Jake Walter commits

GoMuskies
08-18-2017, 06:13 PM
Hmm, his offer sheet (at least according to Scout) is not very impressive. Doesn't mean he can't play, though.

X-ceptional
08-18-2017, 06:23 PM
Well, he's tall.

bobbiemcgee
08-18-2017, 06:27 PM
Well, he's tall.

Mack must see something. He loves the big boys.

LA Muskie
08-18-2017, 07:14 PM
Walter is a project and is destined to be a role player (at best) for at least the first couple years. But every team needs those, and Mack likes what he offers. Glad to see a new Muskie born!

xu82
08-18-2017, 07:34 PM
I'll trust our staff! That's the first piece of the puzzle. Let the commits roll in!

drudy23
08-18-2017, 07:47 PM
I believe this is former Bengal, Joe Walter's son. He's from Cov Cath, right?

LA Muskie
08-18-2017, 08:35 PM
I believe this is former Bengal, Joe Walter's son. He's from Cov Cath, right?
Correct.

X Factor
08-18-2017, 08:59 PM
I trust Mack and his staff, but he kinda looks like a another really big kid with zero lift. Sounds like he's young for his class though, and he's improving quickly, so hopefully he continues to improve and can make an impact at some point.

SlimKibbles
08-18-2017, 10:24 PM
Go Colonels! X hasn't had a kid from my alma mater on the team since, I believe, Matt Kennedy(?) 20+ years ago? I think he was a walk-on.

Harryfe
08-18-2017, 11:44 PM
Gene Keady once said a college coach could not see a 7 footer walk down the sidewalk without offering him a scholarship:biggrin:

xufan02
08-19-2017, 08:04 AM
We needed a big with Sean and Kerem graduating at the end of the year. On paper Tyrique will be our lone big on the roster next year. This pick-up indicates that Kentravious is not coming to Xavier. The staff would not have taken two big back to the basket centers.

I like the pick-up. Walter is young, has legit size, and has been progressing really well over the last 3-4 months.

mistabeecee41
08-20-2017, 11:59 AM
We needed a big with Sean and Kerem graduating at the end of the year. On paper Tyrique will be our lone big on the roster next year. This pick-up indicates that Kentravious is not coming to Xavier. The staff would not have taken two big back to the basket centers.

I like the pick-up. Walter is young, has legit size, and has been progressing really well over the last 3-4 months.

We're still going to need to pickup another legit big to backup Tyrique next year. Walter is a long, long, long ways away. If we're expecting minutes out of him next year, we're in big trouble.

I know highlight videos are just highlight videos, but this kid is RAW. Big Kent also appeared to be very raw, but had a polish to him. Walter doesn't appear to have that yet.

sirthought
08-20-2017, 04:22 PM
For his size it looks like he moves really well. Knowing how his father played in the NFL, I bet this kid will have great work ethic.

A center doesn't need to be the best scorer right away. He just needs to learn where to be to rebound and make a pass for the best play.

I still think Jones will make it through. And while someone here said you don't take a back-to-the-basket player like this two years in a row, I'd say the fact that Walter is a local kid—and who his parents are—sort of throws any strategy like that out the window. You pick up good locals with pro athlete genes when you can.

But yeah, we probably still need to be recruiting bigs, as Walter will only do so much early on. Maybe he'll surprise everyone as a frosh!

drudy23
08-20-2017, 06:56 PM
For his size it looks like he moves really well. Knowing how his father played in the NFL, I bet this kid will have great work ethic.

A center doesn't need to be the best scorer right away. He just needs to learn where to be to rebound and make a pass for the best play.

I still think Jones will make it through. And while someone here said you don't take a back-to-the-basket player like this two years in a row, I'd say the fact that Walter is a local kid—and who his parents are—sort of throws any strategy like that out the window. You pick up good locals with pro athlete genes when you can.

But yeah, we probably still need to be recruiting bigs, as Walter will only do so much early on. Maybe he'll surprise everyone as a frosh!

Agreed...he may be a project, but he's not a risky one. Going to be a hard worker, will improve his game, and grades/eligibility won't be a concern.

xufan02
08-20-2017, 08:31 PM
We're still going to need to pickup another legit big to backup Tyrique next year. Walter is a long, long, long ways away. If we're expecting minutes out of him next year, we're in big trouble.

I know highlight videos are just highlight videos, but this kid is RAW. Big Kent also appeared to be very raw, but had a polish to him. Walter doesn't appear to have that yet.

Jake is a long term piece, but they are still looking for immediate help. They have had some recent unofficals with some bigs, and have a few officials coming up with Colin Castleton, Shaq Carter, Jermaine Harris.

Snipe
08-20-2017, 08:55 PM
I am a fan of Joe Walter.

If he can use that body to box out and rebound he can have a very successful career at Xavier. Rebounding is one aspect of the game that doesn't get that much talk compared to others, but we are at or near the league leaders in rebound differential every year. I would guess as much as any other factor it is the secret to our success.

You guys need to do more for the lazy guys like me and provide some linkage. I expect first class service around here. Throw the Snipe a bone!

LA Muskie
08-21-2017, 02:26 AM
For his size it looks like he moves really well. Knowing how his father played in the NFL, I bet this kid will have great work ethic.

A center doesn't need to be the best scorer right away. He just needs to learn where to be to rebound and make a pass for the best play.

I still think Jones will make it through. And while someone here said you don't take a back-to-the-basket player like this two years in a row, I'd say the fact that Walter is a local kid—and who his parents are—sort of throws any strategy like that out the window. You pick up good locals with pro athlete genes when you can.

But yeah, we probably still need to be recruiting bigs, as Walter will only do so much early on. Maybe he'll surprise everyone as a frosh!

I wouldn't expect Walter to put up much by way of numbers for at least 3 yrs. And, sadly, I wouldn't expect KJ to even make it to campus.


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X-ceptional
08-21-2017, 10:02 AM
You guys need to do more for the lazy guys like me and provide some linkage. I expect first class service around here. Throw the Snipe a bone!

I was thinking the same thing, Snipe. Not much out there, so I did some (very minimal) digging. This is what's readily available:

Scout Profile: Jake Walter, Covington Catholic, Center (BK) (http://www.scout.com/Player/Jake-Walter-94634)... not much there

Kysports.TV gives Walter a generous 7'1" measurement in the title here (http://kysports.tv/hoops/2017/02/jake-walter-71-250-lbs-center-covington-catholic-hs-2016/), but there's a video embedded showing some of his CovCath highlights.

Here's a video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Dx7dmVPOPI) from last year with Indiana Elite... his clips start around 0:50.

Lastly, he leads off in this video from a few months ago:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HoAOBgkM-vU

muskiefan82
08-21-2017, 10:37 AM
I don't think I ever saw him jump off of one foot. Dude can eat space though. That's a big guy for being that tall

94GRAD
08-21-2017, 12:12 PM
Go Colonels! X hasn't had a kid from my alma mater on the team since, I believe, Matt Kennedy(?) 20+ years ago? I think he was a walk-on.

So close, it was John Kennedy.

XU 87
08-21-2017, 12:32 PM
As noted above, I think it's fair to say that he's going to be a project and not expected to do too much his first few years. That said, Mack and staff have a good track record when it comes to evaluating talent of players not heavily recruited by other major programs.

I know I was scratching my head a bit when they gave Stainbrook an offer, and a little but less with O'Mara. Same thing with James Farr.

GIMMFD
08-21-2017, 02:57 PM
As noted above, I think it's fair to say that he's going to be a project and not expected to do too much his first few years. That said, Mack and staff have a good track record when it comes to evaluating talent of players not heavily recruited by other major programs.

I know I was scratching my head a bit when they gave Stainbrook an offer, and a little but less with O'Mara. Same thing with James Farr.

Bingo. They've figured out ways to utilize their big men, and even if they aren't the most talented in the world at the time of commitment, they find ways to develop them and help them contribute into solid players. I have full faith in Mack and company, we got the first commit of the class, and that's the positive step here.

xukeith
08-19-2019, 07:57 PM
I know he was caught and arranged in court December of 2017, whatever happened to him?

I was curious and searched but there is no news. Anyone here know if he is serving time or let go with probation?

Juice
08-19-2019, 08:47 PM
I know he was caught and arranged in court December of 2017, whatever happened to him?

I was curious and searched but there is no news. Anyone here know if he is serving time or let go with probation?

WALTER, JACOB M (D)
• BOONE : 19-CR-00028
COMMONWEALTH VS. WALTER, JACOB M
W / M
Next PRETRIAL CONFERENCE is scheduled for 08/21/2019 at 09:00 AM in room 4A

BigMoeMusketeer
08-20-2019, 04:10 PM
WALTER, JACOB M (D)
• BOONE : 19-CR-00028
COMMONWEALTH VS. WALTER, JACOB M
W / M
Next PRETRIAL CONFERENCE is scheduled for 08/21/2019 at 09:00 AM in room 4A

I will be shocked if he gets convicted.

scoscox
08-20-2019, 04:21 PM
why?

94GRAD
08-20-2019, 04:42 PM
I will be shocked if he gets convicted.

He is going to jail for a long, long time!!!

BigMoeMusketeer
08-20-2019, 04:43 PM
He is going to jail for a long, long time!!!

We'll see.

bleedXblue
08-20-2019, 09:17 PM
We'll see.

I could see a plea deal that gets him 2-3 years in jail............but I see no way of him avoiding some kind of time in the penitentiary.

94GRAD
08-20-2019, 09:45 PM
I will be shocked if he gets convicted.


I could see a plea deal that gets him 2-3 years in jail............but I see no way of him avoiding some kind of time in the penitentiary.

You realize he's been accused of a 2nd rape while he was out on bond correct?

bleedXblue
08-20-2019, 10:12 PM
You realize he's been accused of a 2nd rape while he was out on bond correct?

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/local/northern-ky/2018/12/11/former-covcath-player-xavier-commit-charged-rape-sodomy/2283381002/

My understanding was the original incident was when he was a minor and that situation was dealt with outside of the courts. Are you saying there was another incident AFTER the one in the link above?

94GRAD
08-21-2019, 03:35 AM
Yes

nuts4xu
08-21-2019, 06:43 AM
My understanding was the original incident was when he was a minor and that situation was dealt with outside of the courts. Are you saying there was another incident AFTER the one in the link above?

https://media1.tenor.com/images/80ad87633e83ed66baf78d6608626b26/tenor.gif?itemid=5183687

bleedXblue
08-21-2019, 09:44 AM
yes

holy..........

muskiefan82
08-21-2019, 10:14 AM
2342

Xavier went completely NEO on this one. Thank goodness!

XU 87
08-21-2019, 10:20 AM
You realize he's been accused of a 2nd rape while he was out on bond correct?

While it's true he was charged with a second rape, he wasn't out on bond at the time. Per the article, the first charge, which was a juvenile charge, was dismissed. If the story I heard is true, the juvenile charge should have been dismissed.

bleedXblue
08-21-2019, 10:52 AM
While it's true he was charged with a second rape, he wasn't out on bond at the time. Per the article, the first charge, which was a juvenile charge, was dismissed. If the story I heard is true, the juvenile charge should have been dismissed.

Yeah I would think that if he had a 3rd issue or incident AFTER the one he is currently being charged for, we would have heard about that already. That would have been massive news around the tri-state.......

XU 87
08-21-2019, 11:57 AM
Yeah I would think that if he had a 3rd issue or incident AFTER the one he is currently being charged for, we would have heard about that already. That would have been massive news around the tri-state.......

And the Enquirer would have had one more chance to somehow turn the Walter story into "Xavier has had other incidents in the past - Trevon Bluiett was cited for possession of marijuana in Indianapolis in 2017."

bleedXblue
08-21-2019, 01:00 PM
And the Enquirer would have had one more chance to somehow turn the Walter story into "Xavier has had other incidents in the past - Trevon Bluiett was cited for possession of marijuana in Indianapolis in 2017."

Yep that article was the reason why I cancelled my subscription finally.....

XU 87
08-21-2019, 01:05 PM
Yep that article was the reason why I cancelled my subscription finally.....

It's a terrible newspaper. Unfortunately, it's the only one in town.

I am hoping that since Gannett got sold, the Enquirer will stop using the Gannett/USA Today model of "reporting" news and actually start providing us with real news.

jhelmes37
08-21-2019, 03:37 PM
It's a terrible newspaper. Unfortunately, it's the only one in town.

I am hoping that since Gannett got sold, the Enquirer will stop using the Gannett/USA Today model of "reporting" news and actually start providing us with real news.

As a guy who grew up in Cincy and lives in Michigan, I like to stay up on Cincy news. Lots of friends and family there.

Their newspaper is dreadful.

And the whole "ok, you have had your 10 free stories, now you have to subscribe" model is pure horseshit.

Seriously pathetic.

XUOWNSUC
08-21-2019, 04:56 PM
As a guy who grew up in Cincy and lives in Michigan, I like to stay up on Cincy news. Lots of friends and family there.

Their newspaper is dreadful.

And the whole "ok, you have had your 10 free stories, now you have to subscribe" model is pure horseshit.

Seriously pathetic.

Clear your browser history and cookies and your 10 free stories will start over. That's what I do.

atljar
08-21-2019, 05:05 PM
Clear your browser history and cookies and your 10 free stories will start over. That's what I do.

Just browse in incognito mode and then you dont even have to clear the cache/cookies

Juice
08-21-2019, 08:22 PM
Clear your browser history and cookies and your 10 free stories will start over. That's what I do.

They've changed their set up in the last few weeks though. Some articles cannot be accessed unless you are a subscriber, regardless if you have free articles or not.

UCGRAD4X
08-22-2019, 09:45 AM
What's the point? Why do we even need the 'newspaper'? Don't subscribe, don't read. It's been dead anyway since....forever. RIP

bleedXblue
08-22-2019, 10:36 AM
back to the topic at hand...........I'm calling out those that claim he had a THIRD incident..........is this all rumor or does anyone have any factual information?

Xuperman
08-22-2019, 07:48 PM
Why is this still a Xavier BASKETBALL topic? Mods should move this toxic subject to another place on the site. It would be nice if the POSITIVE vibes going on in "MENS BASKETBALL" can avoid being polluted. This is not BASKETBALL news.....it's only for people interested in local criminal justice system stories.

xu82
08-22-2019, 08:48 PM
Why is this still a Xavier BASKETBALL topic? Mods should move this toxic subject to another place on the site. It would be nice if the POSITIVE vibes going on in "MENS BASKETBALL" can avoid being polluted. This is not BASKETBALL news.....it's only for people interested in local criminal justice system stories.

Yeah, I get it, but maybe relax a bit. You know what it is. Maybe just don’t click on it? Or maybe that’s just me. I appreciate what we have here, no complaints from me unless it’s more egregious than digging up an old thread and not moving it elsewhere ASAP.

Xuperman
08-22-2019, 10:06 PM
No problem with the Walter situation as a point of discussion, but hard to argue it doesn't belong in another forum. His relativity to the Xavier BASKETBALL program is long gone, in fact, barely ever existed. There's a lot of excitement surrounding team 98 and I'm guessing some casual fans and even other BE folks will be perusing this site. It's unfortunate that this thread is at the top of our Men's Basketball forum.

nuts4xu
08-23-2019, 06:32 AM
Why is this still a Xavier BASKETBALL topic? Mods should move this toxic subject to another place on the site. It would be nice if the POSITIVE vibes going on in "MENS BASKETBALL" can avoid being polluted. This is not BASKETBALL news.....it's only for people interested in local criminal justice system stories.

https://media1.tenor.com/images/e50ecc0f13aa3c1759a0503853e2ca65/tenor.gif?itemid=5789201

Roadlife
08-23-2019, 08:53 AM
I agree with Xuperman. To continually rake this kid through the muck is beneath the values of any Christian let alone a Xavier fan;

fellahmuskie
08-23-2019, 09:08 AM
No problem with the Walter situation as a point of discussion, but hard to argue it doesn't belong in another forum. His relativity to the Xavier BASKETBALL program is long gone, in fact, barely ever existed. There's a lot of excitement surrounding team 98 and I'm guessing some casual fans and even other BE folks will be perusing this site. It's unfortunate that this thread is at the top of our Men's Basketball forum.


I agree with Xuperman. To continually rake this kid through the muck is beneath the values of any Christian let alone a Xavier fan;

I think this thread is the least of Jake's worries.

GoMuskies
08-23-2019, 09:15 AM
If you're finding posts on this board by going to specific forums, you're doing it wrong.

Roadlife
08-23-2019, 12:14 PM
I think this thread is the least of Jake's worries.

Then why, in the name of God exacerbate those problems?

XU 87
08-23-2019, 12:22 PM
Then why, in the name of God exacerbate those problems?

Please stop with the pontificating. If you don't like a thread, don't read it.

On top of that, this story is public- it was covered by the newspaper, and on more than one occasion.

Xuperman
08-23-2019, 05:16 PM
If you're finding posts on this board by going to specific forums, you're doing it wrong.

BUT, This is far and away the most visited forum on the site....especially for casual fans and visitors looking for some insight on the upcoming MENS BASKETBALL season. Of which this has NOTHING to do with.

Move this freak show to the "Musketeer News and Headlines" forum where it can die a slow death.

JTG
08-23-2019, 06:22 PM
BUT, This is far and away the most visited forum on the site....especially for casual fans and visitors looking for some insight on the upcoming MENS BASKETBALL season. Of which this has NOTHING to do with.

Move this freak show to the "Musketeer News and Headlines" forum where it can die a slow death.

Ditto, let it go. The guy never spent a day on the X campus.

xu82
08-23-2019, 11:52 PM
I think we should keep arguing it, so it stays right up at the top.

OR, we could move on and it would disappear.

waggy
08-24-2019, 12:11 AM
Meh, move it to the lounge.

Muskie in dayton
08-24-2019, 12:19 AM
This is great. Can we dig up some old threads on Lloyd Price and Andre Smith too?

smileyy
08-24-2019, 01:18 PM
Did someone in this thread really just throw a pity party for a rapist?

GoMuskies
08-24-2019, 01:21 PM
Alleged

bobbiemcgee
08-24-2019, 02:18 PM
He never attended X. We needed a big man. He was offered. Got in trouble. Offer rescinded. Next.