Matta Thread (Mack Not Going, but needs help selling house)

[Muskie]

Matta and the AD will have a press conference today at 2p.


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[JTG]

Umm...uh oh

[GoMuskies]

He's retiring at the end of the '17-'18 season.

[casualfan]

It's to announce he is retiring at the end of the upcoming season.

[GuyFawkes38]

Well, this gives us time to prepare.

[GoMuskies]

Well, this gives us time to prepare.

For what? All the mouthbreathing OSU fans that will surely flood our board soon?

[AviatorX]

That is going to be a SERIOUS rebuild assuming the recruiting nosedive up north only worsens from this.

[GoMuskies]

It's to announce he is retiring at the end of the upcoming season.

Some might say that Matta simply waited a few years after he stopped working to announce his retirement.

[GIMMFD]

Retiring at 50? Not too bad, had some successful seasons, Ohio State has been trending downward lately, I'm sure he has made plenty of money to just relax for the next bit of his life. I don't blame him.

[GoMuskies]

I don't blame him.

I guess we should have put "retired" in quotes. He's being retired by OSU.

[GuyFawkes38]

For what? All the mouthbreathing OSU fans that will surely flood our board soon?

Ha! I was think about some fundraising.

Archie would have been a perfect fit.

[GIMMFD]

I guess we should have put "retired" in quotes. He's being retired by OSU.

Lol well yeah, but I mean I'm sure he's gonna take a few years off before he decides to get back into coaching, so even a small psuedo retirement would be nice to reset, and try to figure out where things went wrong.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Anyone know the status of his health? Last I heard he was still in excruciating pain on the sidelines. Maybe we wont see him back in coaching?

[throwbackmuskie]

It's to announce he is retiring at the end of the upcoming season.

What are you doing posting? You are gone, you lost your bet. See ya

[JTG]

Isn't this going to be extremely awkward for a coaching search? Unless they are doing like Purdue did when Keady was retiring and they announced Painter would succeed him in a year .

[murray87]

Mick Cronin to OSU!

[casualfan]

Isn't this going to be extremely awkward for a coaching search? Unless they are doing like Purdue did when Keady was retiring and they announced Painter would succeed him in a year .

I don't know about the coaching search, but their 2018 recruiting is going to be a mess.

They're going to have a staff full of lame ducks out on the road all this year trying to keep things afloat in what is a hugely important class for the butt-guys.

[Muskie]

Surely they have to announce a coach in waiting? He's the all time winning OSU basketball coach but his health has been declining. I can't believe they wouldn't have someone lined up?

[JTG]

I don't know about the coaching search, but their 2018 recruiting is going to be a mess.

They're going to have a staff full of lame ducks out on the road all this year trying to keep things afloat in what is a hugely important class for the butt-guys.

Maybe the replacement is on the staff. Or its someone they are announcing today, that is joining the staff.

[Muskie]

Here's a recent article on potential replacements. (Link (http://www.landgrantholyland.com/2017/3/28/15088632/ohio-state-basketball-thad-matta-possible-coaching-candidates))

[GoMuskies]

From that list, it would have to be Jent as coach in waiting. But they've not had enough success the last few years to merit a coach in waiting from the current staff.

[Muskie]

From that list, it would have to be Jent as coach in waiting. But they've not had enough success the last few years to merit a coach in waiting from the current staff. Maybe they could get Mike Hopkins. He's good at waiting.

[throwbackmuskie]

Jent will be the hire if they are announcing this as Matta's last year.

[Muskie]

I would think so. Here is the last three coaches in Columbus:



Coach
Years
Conference


Randy Ayers
1990–1997
64–80


Jim O'Brien
1998–2004
*61–52


Thad Matta
2005–present
132–60

[94GRAD]

No longer head coach!

[casualfan]

Wow, he's done immediately.

I'll be curious to see if they hire an interim for a year or try to replace him before this next season.

[throwbackmuskie]

Wow, he's done immediately.

I'll be curious to see if they hire an interim for a year or try to replace him before this next season.

Again why are you here? you lost your bet you made

[mistabeecee41]

enough about Thad. Let's talk about Kaleb Wesson for a second.

There was mutual interest.
Top 100 recruit.
From Ohio.
We have a scholarship open.
Our incoming big is rumored to some eligibility issues.

[XU 87]

I would think so. Here is the last three coaches in Columbus:



Coach
Years
Conference


Randy Ayers
1990–1997
64–80


Jim O'Brien
1998–2004
*61–52


Thad Matta
2005–present
132–60



I think Matta has been the most successful OSU coach since the Fred Taylor era of the late 50's and early 60's.

[Lamont Sanford]

Looks like I picked a bad season to not get tickets with a seat license. It's all my fault.

Mea culpa.

[GIMMFD]

Wow, he's done immediately.

I'll be curious to see if they hire an interim for a year or try to replace him before this next season.

This is pretty late in the game to announce that, man. Wasn't expecting him to be out immediately, wonder who they go after now.

[casualfan]

This is pretty late in the game to announce that, man. Wasn't expecting him to be out immediately, wonder who they go after now.

Thus far most speculation has been on the usual suspects from the area.

Holtmann, Cronin and of course Mack are the three thrown around the most.

I have seen Pete Thamel, Evan Daniels and Corey Evans all mention those three.

[GoMuskies]

I can't imagine any of those guys screwing their employers by taking that job now. Ohio State is going to have to pay a ridiculous amount of money if they want that kind of candidate.

[Masterofreality]

Anyone know the status of his health? Last I heard he was still in excruciating pain on the sidelines. Maybe we wont see him back in coaching?

The most excruciating pain on the sidelines has been experienced by the fans in the fat cat seats that have been forced to watch the garbage that Beaknose has thrown out there the last few years.

No sympathy. Toucan sabotaged his own program by overly recruiting the one and dones, then ignoring his other players so much that quality guys like Walter Offut transferred. All this led to a sub par Academic Progress Rating and a subsequent loss of schollys and reputation.

Good riddance Proboscis. The Mike DeCoursey article about how Chris Mack is the perfect replacement will be published in 3........2.........1....... That while his favorite coach, who he LOVES to promote, Little Mickey, is never mentioned.

[GIMMFD]

Thus far most speculation has been on the usual suspects from the area.

Holtmann, Cronin and of course Mack are the three thrown around the most.

I have seen Pete Thamel, Evan Daniels and Corey Evans all mention those three.

I really don't see Mack leaving for Ohio State, not with what we have on our roster, plus he would set the record for winningest Xavier coach in history this year, Holtmann and Cronin are wild cards to me, I'm not terribly sure if they'd jump on it either, but I wouldn't be shocked. Maybe they go with the interim approach for a year since it's already June.

[xavierj]

Ha! I was think about some fundraising.

Archie would have been a perfect fit.

Archie much better off at Indiana.

[Masterofreality]

I can't imagine any of those guys screwing their employers by taking that job now. Ohio State is going to have to pay a ridiculous amount of money if they want that kind of candidate.

Meanwhile the Pat Kelsey decision to trash the UMass job looks curiouser and curiouser. :rolleyes:

[GoMuskies]

Meanwhile the Pat Kelsey decision to trash the UMass job looks curiouser and curiouser. :rolleyes:

Still don't see how Kelsey can leave Winthrop before the end of next season, but he's at least given himself a BIT of daylight from that fiasco.

[SemajParlor]

Haven't had a chance to really follow closely... did they provide reasoning? I know he's been there 13 years but June is odd timing.

[Blue Blooded-05]

Thus far most speculation has been on the usual suspects from the area.

Holtmann, Cronin and of course Mack are the three thrown around the most.

I have seen Pete Thamel, Evan Daniels and Corey Evans all mention those three.

Columbus sports personality Clay Hall tweeted out his wish list: b Stevens, t Bennett, j wright, s miller and b Donovan.

Surprised he didn't throw Popovich on there

[GIMMFD]

Columbus sports personality Clay Hall tweeted out his wish list: b Stevens, t Bennett, j wright, s miller and b Donovan.

Surprised he didn't throw Popovich on there

Is he high????

[Masterofreality]

Columbus sports personality Clay Hall tweeted out his wish list: b Stevens, t Bennett, j wright, s miller and b Donovan.

Surprised he didn't throw Popovich on there

Gawd, Luckeye honks aren't too full of themselves are they?

[bleedXblue]

OSU should have done this back in March/April. Unless they already have someone lined up.........really bad execution on their part unless Matta just cant do it anymore b/c of his back issues and he decided it was time.

[casualfan]

I can't imagine any of those guys screwing their employers by taking that job now. Ohio State is going to have to pay a ridiculous amount of money if they want that kind of candidate.

I mean, it's exactly what Thad did to us back in 2004. He didn't start at OSU until early July.

[GoMuskies]

True, but that was a different Xavier, and he'd only been here three years. None of Butler, Xavier or UC are where Xavier was back in '04 when Thad took the OSU job.

[bleedXblue]

Columbus sports personality Clay Hall tweeted out his wish list: b Stevens, t Bennett, j wright, s miller and b Donovan.

Surprised he didn't throw Popovich on there

Delusional idiot.

[casualfan]

True, but that was a different Xavier, and he'd only been here three years. None of Butler, Xavier or UC are where Xavier was back in '04 when Thad took the OSU job.

True, but I'm not sure that makes much of a difference. OSU will still be offering to more than double any of those coaches salaries.

[markchal]

Why are people throwing Sean Miller on these lists that Mack and Cronin are tied to? Is OSU really a better job than Arizona?

[xavierj]

True, but I'm not sure that makes much of a difference. OSU will still be offering to more than double any of those coaches salaries.

When you make a ton of money, money isn't everything.

[AviatorX]

Why are people throwing Sean Miller on these lists that Mack and Cronin are tied to? Is OSU really a better job than Arizona?

There's always this idea (no idea if it's rooted in anything accurate) that Sean wants back to the Midwest/East Coast.

[xavierj]

Why are people throwing Sean Miller on these lists that Mack and Cronin are tied to? Is OSU really a better job than Arizona?

Or Xavier? And Mack is not tied to it other than lazy media guys mentioning him, and will not be their next coach.

[markchal]

I also don't get the Brad Stevens or Billy Donovan mentions...why on earth would either of them leave for OSU?

[bleedXblue]

When you make a ton of money, money isn't everything.

This will be a very good litmus test I think. I agree and Chris appears to be very happy at X and has the program just humming along.

[casualfan]

When you make a ton of money, money isn't everything.

And yet coaches making a ton of money jump ship for more every year.

[XU 87]

Why are people throwing Sean Miller on these lists that Mack and Cronin are tied to? Is OSU really a better job than Arizona?

The rumor is that Miller was very interested in the Maryland job a few years back and then dropped out after interviewing with the Maryland AD. The additional rumor is that the AD was wearing shorts and a t-shirt after a workout when he interviewed Miller. As a result, Miller thought the AD was a buffoon and dropped out of the running.

[MuskieXU]

Money isnt everything. It may not even be the most important thing. But regardless of how much you make, money will always be very important and a big raise will always be very tempting. To think or pretend otherwise never made sense to me.

[SemajParlor]

It better take a heck of a lot to leave what Mack has going for him right now. He's up there with the big guys as most secure job with real chances at success. All is well in Xavier Land for him.

[XU 87]

So this is being reported that Matta was fired, but Matta attended the press conference, mentioned that it's possible that he would get back into coaching, and will supposedly assist in the job search to find his replacement. Kind of odd.

Matta also mentioned that he needs to get healthy again. Why wouldn't they just say he is retiring, but would still be paid to "consult"? As I'm typing this, maybe Matta had to be "fired" to keep getting paid since he has three years left on his contract. But the press conference seems like this was mutual- they didn't want Matta anymore but Matta didn't want to coach anymore (at this time).

[mistabeecee41]

I also don't get the Brad Stevens or Billy Donovan mentions...why on earth would either of them leave for OSU?

tweetman trillballins started a running "brad stevens is on the hotseat" thing a while ago. it's spread to the point where anytime any kind of basketball related job opens up, twitter goes crazy making brad stevens jokes.

[SemajParlor]

Matta also mentioned that he needs to get healthy again. Why wouldn't they just say he is retiring, but would still be paid to "consult"? As I'm typing this, maybe Matta had to be "fired" to keep getting paid since he has three years left on his contract. But the press conference seems like this was mutual- they didn't want Matta anymore but Matta didn't want to coach anymore (at this time).

The whole thing is a little bizarre. Hopefully he's healthy.

[xubrew]

Here's a recent article on potential replacements. (Link (http://www.landgrantholyland.com/2017/3/28/15088632/ohio-state-basketball-thad-matta-possible-coaching-candidates))

That's an interesting list of candidates. Where is he getting that from?? I don't think it's any of them. At the very least I don't think that is who they will initially target.


OSU should have done this back in March/April. Unless they already have someone lined up.........really bad execution on their part unless Matta just cant do it anymore b/c of his back issues and he decided it was time.

Perhaps. But, if they know who they want and know they can get them, then the execution of it is fine. I don't think Ohio State's athletic department would have made this move unless they felt they knew exactly what was going to happen next. I don't like them, but I also don't find them to be stupid.

[xeus]

The rumor is that Miller was very interested in the Maryland job a few years back and then dropped out after interviewing with the Maryland AD. The additional rumor is that the AD was wearing shorts and a t-shirt after a workout when he interviewed Miller. As a result, Miller thought the AD was a buffoon and dropped out of the running.

That can go both ways. I recall when I interviewed with XU87 to be a law clerk, I was hired specifically because I wore authentic Nike game shorts and a Fuck UD tshirt. He didn't even ask me about my grades.

[xubrew]

Apparently Ohio State is not forming a search committee or hiring any consulting firms. Whoever it is, (Donovan?) they already know who it is.

[MuskieXU]

Apparently Ohio State is not forming a search committee or hiring any consulting firms. Whoever it is, (Donovan?) they already know who it is.

Where are you seeing this?

[Muskie]

Apparently Ohio State is not forming a search committee or hiring any consulting firms. Whoever it is, (Donovan?) they already know who it is.

Mike Brown?

[casualfan]

Mike Brown?

If Gene Smith was concerned enough about recruiting results to run Matta off would he really hire a guy that has never recruited before?

[xubrew]

Where are you seeing this?

It's just what I'm hearing. It's nothing I can officially cite because, like I said, it's just what I'm hearing. Take that for what you think it's worth.

Donovan is a guess. I was pretty sure that he was someone that they had wanted for a while, and the timing of this would suggest that they were able to work something out that they really liked. Perhaps it's him. Donovan is also friends with Urban Meyer and Thad Matta, FWIW. I don't know anything about the NBA piece of it though. Maybe he likes it there and has no intention of leaving.

[casualfan]

Where are you seeing this?

It has been reported by numerous outlets:

Todd Jones‏ @Todd_Jones 1h1 hour ago
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Told that Ohio State won't hire a search firm to look for coach to replace Thad Matta

[Muskie]

If Gene Smith was concerned enough about recruiting results to run Matta off would he really hire a guy that has never recruited before?

You missed the sarcasm. Also, are you going to show your face in this thread again? (Link (http://www.xavierhoops.com/showthread.php?28194-Good-Article-By-Doc/page8))

[THRILLHOUSE]

It's just what I'm hearing. It's nothing I can officially cite because, like I said, it's just what I'm hearing. Take that for what you think it's worth.

Donovan is a guess. I was pretty sure that he was someone that they had wanted for a while, and the timing of this would suggest that they were able to work something out that they really liked. Perhaps it's him. Donovan is also friends with Urban Meyer and Thad Matta, FWIW. I don't know anything about the NBA piece of it though. Maybe he likes it there and has no intention of leaving.

Donovan is making 7 million a year. Unless he just isn't happy in OKC, I can't imagine him voluntarily leaving that job.

[Muskie]

Donovan is making 7 million a year. Unless he just isn't happy in OKC, I can't imagine him voluntarily leaving that job.

Maybe he get's out while the getting is good? Besides Russell W, what else is left?

[The Coz]

So this is being reported that Matta was fired, but Matta attended the press conference, mentioned that it's possible that he would get back into coaching, and will supposedly assist in the job search to find his replacement. Kind of odd.

Matta also mentioned that he needs to get healthy again. Why wouldn't they just say he is retiring, but would still be paid to "consult"? As I'm typing this, maybe Matta had to be "fired" to keep getting paid since he has three years left on his contract. But the press conference seems like this was mutual- they didn't want Matta anymore but Matta didn't want to coach anymore (at this time).

OSU was attempting Most Awkward Presser ever. They are currently in third place, just behind Sean and his weird exit press conference....first place belongs to Kathy Griffin,

[THRILLHOUSE]

Maybe he get's out while the getting is good? Besides Russell W, what else is left?

Even if there's a day where Russ isn't enough to get them to the playoffs each year and he gets fired, he'd still be able to get any college job he wants.

[Olsingledigit]

Is he high????

Just thinking high.

[dnnrobert]

Donovan is making 7 million a year. Unless he just isn't happy in OKC, I can't imagine him voluntarily leaving that job.

That's in line with what Pitino and Calipari make. If OSU thinks Donovan is worth being one of the 3 highest-paid coaches in college basketball (which isn't outlandish for a guy of his pedigree) and OSU can afford it (I'm sure they can), then money won't be an issue.

[casualfan]

FWIW Chris' buddy Goodman is predicting he gets and takes it.

My guess is he's helping his buddy get a raise.

[throwbackmuskie]

FWIW Chris' buddy Goodman is predicting he gets and takes it.

My guess is he's helping his buddy get a raise.

No one is or should believe anything you post since you are not a man of your word.



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[xufan2434]

Maybe he get's out while the getting is good? Besides Russell W, what else is left?

Semaj..

Kidding. I honestly wouldn't be all that surprised if Donovan left for a college job, rather that's OSU or not. He seemed every bit as stressed and frustrated with the all the drama surrounding OKC this year. Gotta suck when you take that job thinking you have KD and Russ for years to come. Idk how Donovan feels personally, but from the outside I thought he was one of those guys who really enjoys coaching younger guys and being able to help them grow. He always liked coaching Team USA too.

Not saying he's going to do any of that, just wouldn't shock me. Brad Stevens on the other hand though, think he likes his position a lot more. Don't see him leaving

[AviatorX]

FWIW Chris' buddy Goodman is predicting he gets and takes it.

My guess is he's helping his buddy get a raise.

Thing is it's painfully obvious this kinda stuff isn't necessary to get Mack a raise. Xavier should be going to where they can at this point.

[casualfan]

Thing is it's painfully obvious this kinda stuff isn't necessary to get Mack a raise. Xavier should be going to where they can at this point.

I agree I just don't see chris taking it and I'm not sure what other reason Goodman would have for posting it.

[AviatorX]

I agree I just don't see chris taking it and I'm not sure what other reason Goodman would have for posting it.

Totally fair. Figured based on your past posts that we were in the same camp should have phrased it better.

[MADXSTER]

Top Replacements

Lavar Ball - coaches AAU
Mick Cronin - coaches AAU
Charles Barkley - he knows Patrick Ewing
Jay Bilas - God will ask for his advice
Allie LaForce - WINNER
Tom Crean - wouldn't that be something!!
Jay Wright - he would do it

[throwbackmuskie]

You missed the sarcasm. Also, are you going to show your face in this thread again? (Link (http://www.xavierhoops.com/showthread.php?28194-Good-Article-By-Doc/page8))

He won't. Should be banned


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[LA Muskie]

Maybe he get's out while the getting is good? Besides Russell W, what else is left?

By my count, $7mm would still be left.


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[JTG]

No one is going to win NBA WEST besides Golden State for a long time. And Donovan and Urban are buddies

[LA Muskie]

If THE Ohio State University matched Donovan's OKC salary he would make more than Urban Meyer. Which, practically speaking, means Meyer would need a significant raise too. OSU easily could be looking at going from $9mm/yr in combined football/bball HC comp to about $18mm while paying out Matta's contract. For those playing along, that's double the combined line item -- nearly $30mm more over 3 yrs. That ain't chump change.


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[xu82]

Top Replacements

Lavar Ball - coaches AAU
Mick Cronin - coaches AAU
Charles Barkley - he knows Patrick Ewing
Jay Bilas - God will ask for his advice
Allie LaForce - WINNER
Tom Crean - wouldn't that be something!!
Jay Wright - he would do it

Thanks, that made me laugh!


(NOT Jay Wright!)

[GIMMFD]

Semaj..

Kidding. I honestly wouldn't be all that surprised if Donovan left for a college job, rather that's OSU or not. He seemed every bit as stressed and frustrated with the all the drama surrounding OKC this year. Gotta suck when you take that job thinking you have KD and Russ for years to come. Idk how Donovan feels personally, but from the outside I thought he was one of those guys who really enjoys coaching younger guys and being able to help them grow. He always liked coaching Team USA too.

Not saying he's going to do any of that, just wouldn't shock me. Brad Stevens on the other hand though, think he likes his position a lot more. Don't see him leaving

Stevens would be insane to leave an Eastern Conference final team, with the number 1 pick coming up in the draft. He has a chance to make Boston special here in a few years especially as LeBron continues to age. He's getting paid very well, and is known as one of the top NBA coaches right now, people love his inbound plays. I don't see him leaving.

[LA Muskie]

Yeah, Stevens ain't going anywhere. Except to the NBA Finals within the next few years.


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[bobbiemcgee]

Let's face it. Mack could get any College Basketball Head Coaching job in the country when a opportunity arises. The OSU AD had some curious timing with this move. Late chances for recruits, transfers all gone. He should fire himself.

[GuyFawkes38]

Ugh. I have a bad feeling about this.

I think there's a 60-40 chance Mack is offered the job. If offered, I think there's an 80-20 chance Mack takes it (3 months earlier, perhaps a 95-5 chance he takes it).

I don't quite understand it, but OSU is a coveted job (even better than the IU job). Add to that, X is not paying Mack relatively much. And Mack has sent some quiet signals that he'd be interested in other jobs.

This just sucks that it's so late in the process. I thought we dodged all the bullets this year.

[throwbackmuskie]

Mack is not leaving


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[ArizonaXUGrad]

Mack is not leaving


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With Bluiett returning and this class, I just can't see him leaving. In two-three years, Louisville opens up then all bets are off.

[GuyFawkes38]

With Bluiett returning and this class, I just can't see him leaving. In two-three years, Louisville opens up then all bets are off.

Yeah, that's a good point. There's a lot to be excited about next year. Would be an optically bad move to bolt on Bluiett.

[throwbackmuskie]

I think you all are worried way to much about a Louisville opening


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[AviatorX]

I think you all are worried way to much about a Louisville opening


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So your position is Mack would only go to like Duke, UK, and Kansas? Can't imagine where else if Louisville isn't on that list.

[throwbackmuskie]

I don't see him leaving period. I think he wants and knows he can and is building something really special here


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[xeus]

I would be shocked if Chris would be interested in this job. Of course, I'm also shocked that the streetcar needs additional investment and ridership numbers are down, so maybe I'm just a naive dude.

[AviatorX]

I think the reality is if OSU offers Mack 3.5-4 million (same neighborhood as Archie's deal at IU with a bit of an upward adjustment for timing) it's going to be extremely tough to turn down, as that much money should be.

[paulxu]

Our coaches have a history (unfortunately) of going to an Elite 8, and then on to a bigger program.
I hope Chris Mack doesn't, but actually would be surprised if he doesn't. It's the nature of a competitor to want to be challenged on a larger stage, against (assumed to be) stronger competition.
OSU and Louisville are about the same distance away. Can't see that would matter.
Looking out for his family will be job #1.
Personally I think he would be a great fit for Duke, but that's probably pipe dreaming. I'd like him to go there and beat on UNC.

It will be hard to keep him. Looking at track records, there are occasional one-offs like Marshal and Smart making a FF.
But keeping that consistently is a challenge. Even Marshall in 10 years only has 2 Sweet 16's. Smart has 1. Mack has 4 in 8 years.

Would love to have him here forever like a Few. We might really be special then. Don't think it'll happen.
Just hope he's got someone in the wings to keep it going.

[X-band '01]

Maybe they could get Mike Hopkins. He's good at waiting.

Even as Washington's new head coach, he'll still be waiting for a plum job.

[bobbiemcgee]

I would be shocked if Chris would be interested in this job. Of course, I'm also shocked that the streetcar needs additional investment and ridership numbers are down, so maybe I'm just a naive dude.

+1 for the streetcar reference.

[Xavier]

I think you all are worried way to much about a Louisville opening


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Disagree. Louisville is a top 10 place to coach. With the facilities, it could be a top 5 job. Add the huge pay increase and being his wife's hometown (I think) and when Louisville opens our only chance is if he isn't offered

[LA Muskie]

I think the reality is if OSU offers Mack 3.5-4 million (same neighborhood as Archie's deal at IU with a bit of an upward adjustment for timing) it's going to be extremely tough to turn down, as that much money should be.
I'm not saying he won't consider OSU (he almost certainly will), but if that were truly the case Chris Mack would be the head coach at IU right now.

[xavierj]

Disagree. Louisville is a top 10 place to coach. With the facilities, it could be a top 5 job. Add the huge pay increase and being his wife's hometown (I think) and when Louisville opens our only chance is if he isn't offered

I think he meant that job will not be open anytime soon. Cannot imagine it opening in the next 5 years. Untouchable quick Rick weathered the storm and landed a top 3 recruiting class this year. The hookers are in his trunk and is no longer a story.

[xavierj]

Our coaches have a history (unfortunately) of going to an Elite 8, and then on to a bigger program.
I hope Chris Mack doesn't, but actually would be surprised if he doesn't. It's the nature of a competitor to want to be challenged on a larger stage, against (assumed to be) stronger competition.
OSU and Louisville are about the same distance away. Can't see that would matter.
Looking out for his family will be job #1.
Personally I think he would be a great fit for Duke, but that's probably pipe dreaming. I'd like him to go there and beat on UNC.

It will be hard to keep him. Looking at track records, there are occasional one-offs like Marshal and Smart making a FF.
But keeping that consistently is a challenge. Even Marshall in 10 years only has 2 Sweet 16's. Smart has 1. Mack has 4 in 8 years.

Would love to have him here forever like a Few. We might really be special then. Don't think it'll happen.
Just hope he's got someone in the wings to keep it going.

You do realize Xavier is already in a better conference than Ohio State, right? Only difference is money. Everything else Xavier trumps. Ohio State basketball is a complete dumpster fire right now and Ohio state fans could care less. If this was football they would be going crazy. They are only concerned with 8/31. right now. Ohio State may be the worst basketball team in the Big 10 next year.

[X-band '01]

Nah, they still have Nebraska in the B1G.

Sorry Brew.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I'm not saying he won't consider OSU (he almost certainly will), but if that were truly the case Chris Mack would be the head coach at IU right now.

Goodman referenced him being passed over for Archie for the IU job in his article predicting Mack is offered and takes the OSU job. I thought that was interesting especially considering the overall feeling is Goodman purposely says things to make Mack look good.

[Nigel Tufnel]

He won't. Should be banned


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Public reps for your persistence. If you look at his/her back and forth with Go, you can tell he/she is giddy at the thought of Mack leaving.

Reminds me of this UC fan's post on their board today....


Post: #17RE: OT: Ohio state head coach Thad Matta to retire after '17-'18 season
Personal opinion warning here...

It's not like we're going to capitalize on this when it comes to recruiting. Mick isn't going to start outrecruiting OSU, despite us being the historically better program. Best case scenario is that OSU hires Mack and Xavier finally hires a dud, and we become the uncontested #2 profile program in Ohio, with a shot at #1 depending on the Mack/OSU fit. Worst case scenario is that OSU makes a home run hire of someone else, and we then drop to a distant #3 in coaching ability AND recruiting within the state. IMO, we are currently #3 in recruiting behind Xavier and OSU, but #2 in coaching behind Xavier. I realize that OSU's 2017 class is ranked lower than ours on 247, but they also brought in half as many players... Their average rating was almost 91 compared to our 87.

I'm not going to consider the notion of OSU hiring Cronin, because... well... he doesn't "seem like their type."

All just my opinion.

[casualfan]

Goodman referenced him being passed over for Archie for the IU job in his article predicting Mack is offered and takes the OSU job. I thought that was interesting especially considering the overall feeling is Goodman purposely says things to make Mack look good.

FWIW Goodman also just updated his search article and changed his pick from Chris to Holtmann.

[GIMMFD]

Public reps for your persistence. If you look at his/her back and forth with Go, you can tell he/she is giddy at the thought of Mack leaving.

Reminds me of this UC fan's post on their board today....


Post: #17RE: OT: Ohio state head coach Thad Matta to retire after '17-'18 season
Personal opinion warning here...

It's not like we're going to capitalize on this when it comes to recruiting. Mick isn't going to start outrecruiting OSU, despite us being the historically better program. Best case scenario is that OSU hires Mack and Xavier finally hires a dud, and we become the uncontested #2 profile program in Ohio, with a shot at #1 depending on the Mack/OSU fit. Worst case scenario is that OSU makes a home run hire of someone else, and we then drop to a distant #3 in coaching ability AND recruiting within the state. IMO, we are currently #3 in recruiting behind Xavier and OSU, but #2 in coaching behind Xavier. I realize that OSU's 2017 class is ranked lower than ours on 247, but they also brought in half as many players... Their average rating was almost 91 compared to our 87.

I'm not going to consider the notion of OSU hiring Cronin, because... well... he doesn't "seem like their type."

All just my opinion.

A rational UC fan??? I'll be damned.

[xavierj]

FWIW Goodman also just updated his search article and changed his pick from Chris to Holtmann.

I think Chris was too busy vacationing in the Turks & Caicos to have time to entertain Ohio State.

[throwbackmuskie]

FWIW Goodman also just updated his search article and changed his pick from Chris to Holtmann.

FWIW you need to stop posting since you lost the bet you created.


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[vee4xu]

Two things. First, living in Cbus, I'll tell you that OSU men's basketball is a MESS! Going to take several years to put the pieces back together. Money can only do so much. Second, I had firsthand knowledge that X at very high levels was and remains livid about how Thad left, especially relating to Fr. Hoff. Mack can end up at a bunch of places someday, but as an alum and former team captain going to OSU would be a personal affront to his alma mater. Besides with his new philanthropic effort and two kids entrenched in school tough to imagine OSU being that dream job that takes him from X.

[LA Muskie]

Goodman referenced him being passed over for Archie for the IU job in his article predicting Mack is offered and takes the OSU job. I thought that was interesting especially considering the overall feeling is Goodman purposely says things to make Mack look good.

I didn't re-up on ESPN Insider so I haven't seen the article. If he said that, there has to be a Chris Mack-related reason he did so. Because Mack absolutely, positively was the party who (through back channels) said thanks but no thanks.

[LA Muskie]

Two things. First, living in Cbus, I'll tell you that OSU men's basketball is a MESS! Going to take several years to put the pieces back together. Money can only do so much. Second, I had firsthand knowledge that X at very high levels was and remains livid about how Thad left, especially relating to Fr. Hoff. Mack can end up at a bunch of places someday, but as an alum and former team captain going to OSU would be a personal affront to his alma mater. Besides with his new philanthropic effort and two kids entrenched in school tough to imagine OSU being that dream job that takes him from X.
I agree with all of this except the bold part. Chris would be missed -- and every effort would be made to retain him. But so long as he doesn't t leave the way Matta left (something he would never do) -- whether to OSU or elsewhere -- Chris is and always will be a beloved Muskie.

That said, and while OSU would obviously have him at or near the top of their list (depending on how realistic that list is), I don't think Mack takes the job.

[bobbiemcgee]

I didn't re-up on ESPN Insider so I haven't seen the article. If he said that, there has to be a Chris Mack-related reason he did so. Because Mack absolutely, positively was the party who (through back channels) said thanks but no thanks.

Save your money, It's free on ABC News:

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/thad-matta-buckeyes/story?id=47850850


and I doubt he got passed over by the Hoosiers.

[paulxu]

11hJeff Goodman
Would Chris Mack leave for Ohio State?

The Xavier head coach -- with three Elite Eights and three Sweet 16s in eight years -- would be a "home run hire" up the road in Columbus.

It seems I slept through a couple of E8's in the last 8 years.

[BandAid]

It seems I slept through a couple of E8's in the last 8 years.

You missed out. They were glorious. We beat duke, Kentucky, and North Carolina to get to them.

[xujeffjeff]

House is listed...
https://www.sibcycline.com/Listing/NKY/505445/2483-Legends-Way-Crestview-Hills-KY-41017

[atljar]

house is listed...
https://www.sibcycline.com/listing/nky/505445/2483-legends-way-crestview-hills-ky-41017


fml

[MuskieXU]

I didn't re-up on ESPN Insider so I haven't seen the article. If he said that, there has to be a Chris Mack-related reason he did so. Because Mack absolutely, positively was the party who (through back channels) said thanks but no thanks.

I'm not going to get into this from a rumor standpoint, because frankly I have no idea. But from a common sense standpoint, you would absolutely have to think IU reached out to Mack before Miller for these reasons:

In 8 years at Xavier, Chris Mack's average ranking via Kenpom is 38.5 which frankly is low due to circumstances outside his control. He has had 3 Top 25 teams and 5 top 30 teams. In 6 years at UD Archie's average Kenpom ranking was 53. He has had 0 Top 25 teams and 1 top 40 team (ranked 39.)

CM has made the tournament 7 times in 8 years. He is 10-7 with 4 S16s and 1 E8. Archie has made the tournament 4 times in 6 years. He has one E8.

In 8 years Chris Mack has landed 11 Top 100 recruits and 15 4 star recruits. In 6 years Archie has landed 0 T 100 and 1 4 star recruit. Yes, Xavier is in the BE now, but Mack still landed a bunch of T100 recruits while in the A10.

So CM has been better in the regular season, better in the postseason, and better at recruiting. I get that Archie is younger and has a more famous last name, but Mack has been the better coach in every way thus far. So if you're asking me, yes IU reached out, yes CM said no thanks, and no OSU is not a better job than IU.

[ReturnOfTheMack]

fml

Relax. He's already closing on another house in the same area in NKY.

[atljar]

Relax. He's already closing on another house in the same area in NKY.
Thats re-assuring. Im having flashbacks of tracking a planes tailnumber fly from Lunken to AZ

[Muskie]

fml

He just bought a house in NKY. Hence why this one is for sale.

[xu82]

The indoor pool was a nice touch.

[MuskieXU]

Man, if thats the house he's getting rid of I'd love to see what he's moving in to.

[Caf]

House is listed...
https://www.sibcycline.com/Listing/NKY/505445/2483-Legends-Way-Crestview-Hills-KY-41017

It's way too early for this kind of scare.

[BMoreX]

Damn. How do you upgrade from that house?

[STL_XUfan]

Relax. He's already closing on another house in the same area in NKY.

Changing jobs right before a closing can really throw a wrench into your financing approval. He should probably stay at his current job for the next 2-45 years just to be safe.

[Roadlife]

Man, if thats the house he's getting rid of I'd love to see what he's moving in to.
Look at it again with a dust cloth in your hand. :whack:

[bobbiemcgee]

Never heard of 4.1 baths. What is the .1, an empty gatorade bottle?

[xeus]

Never heard of 4.1 baths. What is the .1, an empty gatorade bottle?

4 full baths, 1 half bath

[GoMuskies]

4 full baths, 1 half bath

I would expect that to be shown as 4.5 baths.

[murray87]

The man cave is sweet! And an indoor pool and Ms. Pacman!

[Muskie]

Never heard of 4.1 baths. What is the .1, an empty gatorade bottle?
I think it means it has 4 full baths and has been plumbed for a 5th bath that is not finished. That's what my MLS sheet state and I have a .1.

[xeus]

I would expect that to be shown as 4.5 baths.

No. Wrong. This has been covered. 4.5 would be 4 full, 5 half.

[GoMuskies]

No. Wrong. This has been covered. 4.5 would be 4 full, 5 half.

Nice try.

[xeus]

I think it means it has 4 full baths and has been plumbed for a 5th bath that is not finished. That's what my MLS sheet states.

Which is an MLS violation, not surprising for this particular realtor. You don't list a bathroom that isn't there.

[Muskie]

Which is an MLS violation, not surprising for this particular realtor. You don't list a bathroom that isn't there.

I mean it's there. It's just not usable. But I defer to the King of Cincinnati/NKY Real Estate.

[LA Muskie]

I'm not going to get into this from a rumor standpoint, because frankly I have no idea. But from a common sense standpoint, you would absolutely have to think IU reached out to Mack before Miller for these reasons:

In 8 years at Xavier, Chris Mack's average ranking via Kenpom is 38.5 which frankly is low due to circumstances outside his control. He has had 3 Top 25 teams and 5 top 30 teams. In 6 years at UD Archie's average Kenpom ranking was 53. He has had 0 Top 25 teams and 1 top 40 team (ranked 39.)

CM has made the tournament 7 times in 8 years. He is 10-7 with 4 S16s and 1 E8. Archie has made the tournament 4 times in 6 years. He has one E8.

In 8 years Chris Mack has landed 11 Top 100 recruits and 15 4 star recruits. In 6 years Archie has landed 0 T 100 and 1 4 star recruit. Yes, Xavier is in the BE now, but Mack still landed a bunch of T100 recruits while in the A10.

So CM has been better in the regular season, better in the postseason, and better at recruiting. I get that Archie is younger and has a more famous last name, but Mack has been the better coach in every way thus far. So if you're asking me, yes IU reached out, yes CM said no thanks, and no OSU is not a better job than IU.

They reached out to Mack first. He didn't give it much thought and demurred through his people. The fact that we were still playing played a significant role -- Mack has a laser focus, and his attention was 100% on the tourney.


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[Roadlife]

Maybe Thad will buy it so this thread can get back on track.

[paulxu]

This has become a theme of summer.
Major college has opening for basketball coach.
Mack's name immediately surfaces, and everyone (pundits included) starts to weigh in on what will happen.
Occasionally a trick play gets thrown into the mix (like a house sale).
Nerves are frayed for a few days/weeks.
The college picks someone else. Everyone proclaims to have seen that pick coming.
Mack remains at X...with an increased contract (Pay the Man!).

Here's hoping we're in a rinse and repeat cycle; not a new load of wash.

[bobbiemcgee]

2188

.1

[GIMMFD]

Man that is an awesome house, listed at $1.3mil? I thought it would be even more than that, love the lockers for his kids too, great touch.

[xudash]

This has become a theme of summer.
Major college has opening for basketball coach.
Mack's name immediately surfaces, and everyone (pundits included) starts to weigh in on what will happen.
Occasionally a trick play gets thrown into the mix (like a house sale).
Nerves are frayed for a few days/weeks.
The college picks someone else. Everyone proclaims to have seen that pick coming.
Mack remains at X...with an increased contract (Pay the Man!).

Here's hoping we're in a rinse and repeat cycle; not a new load of wash.

Well done Paul.

[casualfan]

NM

[muskienick]

NM

NM = No More?

[casualfan]

NM = No More?

It initially said we would be a losing a coach not named Mack.

Then the person texted back and said not to put it out there yet.

FWIW the post was referring to Googins.

[nuts4xu]

It initially said we would be a losing a coach not named Mack.

Then the person texted back and said not to put it out there yet.

FWIW the post was referring to Googins.

I thought you lost a bet forfeiting your posting privileges? Are you ignoring the bet completely?

Welcher

[throwbackmuskie]

It initially said we would be a losing a coach not named Mack.

Then the person texted back and said not to put it out there yet.

FWIW the post was referring to Googins.


His comment was to the fact that you lost a bet, there for "no more posts from you" as you created and lost the bet.

[GetUp5]

Don't want to go through 16 pages of the thread, but have we discussed Chris Mack putting his house on the market yesterday? Coincidence?

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Don't want to go through 16 pages of the thread, but have we discussed Chris Mack putting his house on the market yesterday? Coincidence?

Read the thread, or maybe the last 5 pages or so.

[Muskie]

Don't want to go through 16 pages of the thread, but have we discussed Chris Mack putting his house on the market yesterday? Coincidence? Yes. He put that house on the market because he just closed on a home in Northern Kentucky. Tom Crean's house is also for sale in Bloomington. There's your Real Estate catch up.

[GoMuskies]

Don't want to go through 16 pages of the thread, but have we discussed Chris Mack putting his house on the market yesterday? Coincidence?

He bought another one.

[GetUp5]

Yes. He put that house on the market because he just closed on a home in Northern Kentucky. Tom Crean's house is also for sale in Bloomington. There's your Real Estate catch up.

Thank you. Need to fend off the UC Trolls at work. Much appreciated.

[THRILLHOUSE]

Read the thread, or maybe the last 5 pages or so.

or change your settings so more replies display per page, then there aren't so many pages per thread.

[X-ceptional]

I'd feel more comfortable if Mack just kept both houses in the area.

[GoMuskies]

I'd feel more comfortable if Mack just kept both houses in the area.

I think that would be terrible for us. Then he'd NEED a big raise.

[X-ceptional]

I think that would be terrible for us. Then he'd NEED a big raise.

I assumed he would rent the second one to Huggins when he comes back to UC to replace Cronin when he takes the job aOSU. Ah, perfection.

[GoMuskies]

I assumed he would rent the second one to Huggins when he comes back to UC to replace Cronin when he takes the job aOSU. Ah, perfection.

Don't let that white trash Huggins ruin that beautiful home!!!!!

[Lloyd Braun]

Anyone have Holtmanns salary handy?

[LA Muskie]

Anyone have Holtmanns salary handy?
I've heard rumors of it being between $1.5-$2mm, but I have no personal knowledge. And the internets appear to be in the dark too.

[Muskie]

Butler Messageboard say between 1.5-2m. He just signed an extension through 2025 a month or so ago.

[casualfan]

Brian Snow‏ @BSnowScout 6m6 minutes ago
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Going forward it sounds like Chris Mack, Archie Miller, and Sean Miller can be removed from any Ohio St coaching speculation

[GoMuskies]

Brian Snow‏ @BSnowScout 6m6 minutes ago
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Going forward it sounds like Chris Mack, Archie Miller, and Sean Miller can be removed from any Ohio St coaching speculation

Was someone including Archie? Now THAT would be insanity.

[LA Muskie]

Was someone including Archie? Now THAT would be insanity.
Jeff Goodman's article suggested that given Archie's well-known affinity for the school and his relationship with Matta, OSU should at least inquire even if the odds were particularly low.

[GIMMFD]

Don't let that white trash Huggins ruin that beautiful home!!!!!

Trust me Huggy isn't leaving WVU any time soon, he gets to do banquets with his good friend Dana Holgorsen and they just end up getting obliterated, but it's fine because everyone loves them. Huggins would be a fool to leave WVU for UC. Not to mention he was born in Morgantown, and played at WVU.

[LA Muskie]

Trust me Huggy isn't leaving WVU any time soon, he gets to do banquets with his good friend Dana Holgorsen and they just end up getting obliterated, but it's fine because everyone loves them. Huggins would be a fool to leave WVU for UC. Not to mention he was born in Morgantown, and played at WVU.
I can't fathom any scenario in which Huggins voluntarily leaves WVU to return to UC. But I have seen reports that Huggins has expressed interest in the OSU job. I have no idea how accurate they are, but they are out there.

[paulxu]

Is this the Fire Chris Mack thread? I'm lost...

[Muskie]

Scott Drew's name has popped up.

[Blue Blooded-05]

2189

https://mobile.twitter.com/BSnowScout/status/872227282936635393

Edit: Sorry... didn't see that was posted earlier

[X-ceptional]

Is this the Fire Chris Mack thread? I'm lost...

Wait, are there threads that AREN'T Fire Chris Mack threads?

#FireChrisMack

[MuskieXU]

Brian Snow‏ @BSnowScout 6m6 minutes ago
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Going forward it sounds like Chris Mack, Archie Miller, and Sean Miller can be removed from any Ohio St coaching speculation

Does anyone have any additional information here? Seems like a pretty big tweet to fire as a one off.

[Juice]

https://theringer.com/thad-matta-ohio-state-buckeyes-basketball-760ee88f5b2

[D-West & PO-Z]

I think that would be terrible for us. Then he'd NEED a big raise.

He could probably be comfortable with two 1+million dollar homes right?

[SemajParlor]

Lol at Archie Miller leaving Indiana for Ohio St

[paulxu]

What a great way to get a raise; have the rumor mill kick into gear, and get more bucks.
Glad we stopped Arizona this year.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/19567414/dr-robert-robbins-university-arizona-says-ohio-state-buckeyes-hire-sean-miller-my-dead-body

[Muskie]

I'd sure like OSU to get this wrapped up.

[Muskie]

The folks over at the Butler Board have latched on to Mack's house being for sale. They think that's a sign that he's taking the job. Someone pointed out that he "allegedly" bought another house. However, the house in question can't be the replacement house because it is a "downgrade".

I realize that Mack takes a ton of money and takes the scrutiny that comes with it, but some of this seems over the top. I haven't considered where Mack lives or what kind of house he has (I just assumed it was Nice).

[casualfan]

I'd sure like OSU to get this wrapped up.

I would be shocked if it isn't Holtmann at this point.

From what i have heard they started at the top of their list and have been working their way down.

I haven't specifically heard whether they reached out to Chris or not (I assume they have), but Snow is pretty well plugged in and he sayd Mack is not an option.

[throwbackmuskie]

I would be shocked if it isn't Holtmann at this point.

From what i have heard they started at the top of their list and have been working their way down.

I haven't specifically heard whether they reached out to Chris or not (I assume they have), but Snow is pretty well plugged in and he sayd Mack is not an option.

I guess you haven't heard that you lost the beat you made....MODS I am petitioning action to be taken and CF be banned since he isn't man enough to do it on his own.

[GetUp5]

The folks over at the Butler Board have latched on to Mack's house being for sale. They think that's a sign that he's taking the job. Someone pointed out that he "allegedly" bought another house. However, the house in question can't be the replacement house because it is a "downgrade".

I realize that Mack takes a ton of money and takes the scrutiny that comes with it, but some of this seems over the top. I haven't considered where Mack lives or what kind of house he has (I just assumed it was Nice).

To be honest, looking at the auditor's website, that move doesn't make sense. Could the other house be a house he bought for his parents? Christie's parents? Why on earth would Chris Mack downgrade that much?

I GUARANTEE you Chris Mack is not moving from a $1.3M house to a $300k house.

[chico]

I can't fathom any scenario in which Huggins voluntarily leaves WVU to return to UC. But I have seen reports that Huggins has expressed interest in the OSU job. I have no idea how accurate they are, but they are out there.

I've heard this too. It is crazy but it also is Bob Huggins and the man has no integrity. Here's an article form Columbus actually mentioning him as a potential replacement for some reason.

http://www.dispatch.com/sports/20170606/ohio-state-mens-basketball--who-will-replace-thad-matta

[MuskieXU]

To be honest, looking at the auditor's website, that move doesn't make sense. Could the other house be a house he bought for his parents? Christie's parents? Why on earth would Chris Mack downgrade that much?

I GUARANTEE you Chris Mack is not moving from a $1.3M house to a $300k house.

That was the house Mack lived in when he was an assistant coach.

[Muskie]

From the Butler Board:


Well, a small private jet flew from Covington (very close to Crestview Hills) to Ohio State last night. So that's something. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N34DZ/history/20170606/2100Z/KCVG/KOSU
When I ran a search for that route, I found no other recent flights, suggesting this isn't a regular route. But I admittedly am not very familiar with operating this website.

OTOH, a small private jet flew from Indy International to Ohio State Monday night.
_________

[casualfan]

From the Butler Board:


Well, a small private jet flew from Covington (very close to Crestview Hills) to Ohio State last night. So that's something. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N34DZ/history/20170606/2100Z/KCVG/KOSU
When I ran a search for that route, I found no other recent flights, suggesting this isn't a regular route. But I admittedly am not very familiar with operating this website.

OTOH, a small private jet flew from Indy International to Ohio State Monday night.
_________



Have they been able to nail down who owns the jet from the tail number yet?

EDIT: NVM. It's owned by a Columbus company called 'DLZ Aircraft Inc'

[ReturnOfTheMack]

From the Butler Board:


Well, a small private jet flew from Covington (very close to Crestview Hills) to Ohio State last night. So that's something. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N34DZ/history/20170606/2100Z/KCVG/KOSU
When I ran a search for that route, I found no other recent flights, suggesting this isn't a regular route. But I admittedly am not very familiar with operating this website.

OTOH, a small private jet flew from Indy International to Ohio State Monday night.
_________



Well unless Chris Mack has the unique ability to defy physics and be present in two places at once; he wasn't on that plane. He's currently on vacation with his family in the Caribbean.

[ammtd34]

From the Butler Board:


Well, a small private jet flew from Covington (very close to Crestview Hills) to Ohio State last night. So that's something. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N34DZ/history/20170606/2100Z/KCVG/KOSU
When I ran a search for that route, I found no other recent flights, suggesting this isn't a regular route. But I admittedly am not very familiar with operating this website.

OTOH, a small private jet flew from Indy International to Ohio State Monday night.
_________



Could be a rich parent meeting their kid for dinner. I would imagine there are flights every day from both Covington and Indianapolis to Ohio State. It's one of the biggest universities in the world. They don't all have to do with the basketball coach.

Actually, it would seem odd to me that Chris Mack flew back from Turks and Caicos to Kentucky, then got on another plane to go to Columbus.

[Muskie]

Well unless Chris Mack has the unique ability to defy physics and be present in two places at once; he wasn't on that plane. He's currently on vacation with his family in the Caribbean.

I didn't have the heart to tell them he's in the Turks and Caicos.

[SemajParlor]

I realize that Mack takes a ton of money and takes the scrutiny that comes with it, but some of this seems over the top. I haven't considered where Mack lives or what kind of house he has (I just assumed it was Nice).

Yeah, it's really creepy.

[bleedXblue]

Well unless Chris Mack has the unique ability to defy physics and be present in two places at once; he wasn't on that plane. He's currently on vacation with his family in the Caribbean.

Just curious in how you know he's still there and isn't back in town already?

[throwbackmuskie]

Have they been able to nail down who owns the jet from the tail number yet?

EDIT: NVM. It's owned by a Columbus company called 'DLZ Aircraft Inc'

How can we nail down a tail number when we can't nail you down for still posting when you lost the bet you created


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[Muskie]

Just curious in how you know he's still there and isn't back in town already? As of yesterday afternoon he was tweeting from there. I mean, I'm not camped out down there, so I guess it's possible he's back?

[Muskie]

Chris Jent will interview today. (Link (http://www.dispatch.com/sports/20170607/ohio-state-mens-basketball-chris-jent-to-discuss-coaching-job-with-gene-smith-today))

[AviatorX]

Well unless Chris Mack has the unique ability to defy physics and be present in two places at once; he wasn't on that plane. He's currently on vacation with his family in the Caribbean.

This stuff is super overblown, too. While everyone was monitoring Bloomington's airport Archie was out in San Jose watching Sean lose to Xavier and accepting the IU job.

[throwbackmuskie]

Chris Jent will interview today. (Link (http://www.dispatch.com/sports/20170607/ohio-state-mens-basketball-chris-jent-to-discuss-coaching-job-with-gene-smith-today))

I think he will be the man for a year as a trail.


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[casualfan]

This stuff is super overblown, too. While everyone was monitoring Bloomington's airport Archie was out in San Jose watching Sean lose to Xavier and accepting the IU job.

Agreed. There are some jobs guys want to interview on campus for so they can get the lay of the land and check out the facilities.

That is not necessary for jobs like IU and OSU.

Holtmann is still my guess, but I'm continuing to hear a lot of Shaka Smart chatter.

[MuskieXU]

I think he will be the man for a year as a trail.


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Assuming they miss on the big names, that may be their best option. A year from now they would have a much better chance at getting one of their top guys.

[AviatorX]

Assuming they miss on the big names, that may be their best option. A year from now they would have a much better chance at getting one of their top guys.

If this isn't the year at Arizona, I could definitely see Sean jumping at OSU in a year.

[casualfan]

Chris Jent will interview today. (Link (http://www.dispatch.com/sports/20170607/ohio-state-mens-basketball-chris-jent-to-discuss-coaching-job-with-gene-smith-today))

That article claims players have been told they will have a coach by the end of the week.

[GoMuskies]

If this isn't the year at Arizona, I could definitely see Sean jumping at OSU in a year.

Ditto Marshall from Wichita (particularly it it IS his year at WSU).

[throwbackmuskie]

Agreed. There are some jobs guys want to interview on campus for so they can get the lay of the land and check out the facilities.

That is not necessary for jobs like IU and OSU.

Holtmann is still my guess, but I'm continuing to hear a lot of Shaka Smart chatter.

The real question is why are you continuing to post?

[throwbackmuskie]

Assuming they miss on the big names, that may be their best option. A year from now they would have a much better chance at getting one of their top guys.

I think they swung and missed on a few, Mack, the Miller boys. Dude from Butler could be it, but I think they have a better chance waiting a year.

[D-West & PO-Z]

The real question is why are you continuing to post?

This is classic, please do this forever.

[throwbackmuskie]

Personal opinion here, no self respecting coach who has a solid program running should leave at this point. But that is my opinion. O$U will throw lots of dollars at someone to come clean up their mess. They messed up not doing this earlier and getting Archie.

[GoMuskies]

Personal opinion here, no self respecting coach who has a solid program running should leave at this point.

I completely agree. There's a right way and a wrong way to leave a program. Leaving now is 100% the wrong way. We sometimes irrationally hate coaches for leaving, but leaving now is cause for rational hatred (I'm looking at you Beaknose!).

[X-ceptional]

There's a right way and a wrong way to leave a program.

Just like there is a right way and a wrong way to leave a message board... am I right, Throwback?

[STL_XUfan]

From the Butler Board:


Well, a small private jet flew from Covington (very close to Crestview Hills) to Ohio State last night. So that's something. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N34DZ/history/20170606/2100Z/KCVG/KOSU
When I ran a search for that route, I found no other recent flights, suggesting this isn't a regular route. But I admittedly am not very familiar with operating this website.

OTOH, a small private jet flew from Indy International to Ohio State Monday night.
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YESSSS!!!! It just isn't a coaching search until I start seeing links to flight aware.

[GoMuskies]

Just like there is a right way and a wrong way to leave a message board... am I right, Throwback?

I thought Obama had left office? How is he still holding me down? So the reps are public.

[Nigel Tufnel]

This is classic, please do this forever.

Agreed.

[spursy]

This is classic, please do this forever.

Really? Because I think it's one of the most annoying things I've seen on this board. And this board has seen some shit.

[X-ceptional]

YESSSS!!!! It just isn't a coaching search until I start seeing links to flight aware.

Well here you go, OSU to OSU this morning. I'd like to think they flew Jent around with an aviation student or something to make the process seem more "real."

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N717TH

[xubrew]

Personal opinion here, no self respecting coach who has a solid program running should leave at this point. But that is my opinion. O$U will throw lots of dollars at someone to come clean up their mess. They messed up not doing this earlier and getting Archie.

Chris Holtmann left Gardner Webb in June, where he turned them around from a 5 win team to a 20+ win team in three years, to become the ASSISTANT coach at Butler. It's a move that still strikes me as nuts. I know he became the head coach, but unless he knew that was going to happen, then it made absolutely no sense.

He's a good guy, but he has left one coaching job for another in the month of June. So, there's that. It's POSSIBLE that he stepped into a situation where he knew his boss was going to get nudged out the door.

I don't know if it's him or not, but it might be.

[GoMuskies]

Really? Because I think it's one of the most annoying things I've seen on this board. And this board has seen some shit.

https://media4.giphy.com/media/GtB8bJ7Oypody/200.webp#0-grid1

[SemajParlor]

The real question is why are you continuing to post?

what's the backstory here again?

[X-ceptional]

what's the backstory here again?

Casualfan makes bet Mack would be gone by now.
Mack's still here.
Casualfan's still here.

Find out more: http://www.xavierhoops.com/showthread.php?28194-Good-Article-By-Doc&p=592969&viewfull=1#post592969

[D-West & PO-Z]

Just like there is a right way and a wrong way to leave a message board... am I right, Throwback?

HAHA, classic

[casualfan]

I don't have access to Scout, but I've heard Snow is reporting Hoiberg is the leader and it may be announced within the next 24-36 hours.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Really? Because I think it's one of the most annoying things I've seen on this board. And this board has seen some shit.

Blame casualfan then who made a stupid bet and is not only not paying up but is completely and totally ignoring the entire thing.

I actually wouldnt expect the guy to really stop posting but at least own up, say you're a moron who made a stupid bet and move on.

Keep it up throwback.

[GIMMFD]

I don't have access to Scout, but I've heard Snow is reporting Hoiberg is the leader and it may be announced within the next 24-36 hours.

Huh Fred Hoiberg? That'd be interesting, he had some good success at Iowa State, didn't make much in the tournament, the Bulls were a different story, though they were a play-off team. I'm sure he'd real in some nice money. Plus, Columbus > Ames in a heart beat.

[xeus]

I don't have access to Scout, but I've heard Snow is reporting Hoiberg is the leader and it may be announced within the next 24-36 hours.

I have received several requests to ban you to force you to pay up on your bet.

[SemajParlor]

Casualfan makes bet Mack would be gone by now.
Mack's still here.
Casualfan's still here.

Find out more: http://www.xavierhoops.com/showthread.php?28194-Good-Article-By-Doc&p=592969&viewfull=1#post592969

Oh no.

[throwbackmuskie]

The funny thing is, some other poster brought the thread back to life, I forgot about it, like a normal person would after three years. But yeah real shady to not say "yes I was a moron and wrong, can I please still post even though it was my idea to make this bet"

[casualfan]

The funny thing is, some other poster brought the thread back to life, I forgot about it, like a normal person would after three years. But yeah real shady to not say "yes I was a moron and wrong, can I please still post even though it was my idea to make this bet"

Get over yourself dude. It's a message board. Not that serious.

[XU 87]

Get over yourself dude. It's a message board. Not that serious.

True, but maybe you should watch what you write and not be so sure of your predictions next time.

[GoMuskies]

Get over yourself dude. It's a message board. Not that serious.

This has me leaning towards hoping for ban.

[Caf]

This has me leaning towards hoping for ban.

Please make it happen Muskie. This is not the Xavier way.

[throwbackmuskie]

Mack is classic "My timing for this house sale, well :no: But we are moving to NKY. Love Xavier! Now, about that house we have to sell... any takers?"

[Muskie]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/871901818934177793/YXZqai25_normal.jpgChris Mack
✔@CoachChrisMack (https://twitter.com/CoachChrisMack)

My timing for this house sale, well https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f633.png. But we are moving to NKY. Love Xavier! Now, about that house we have to sell... any takers?
1:13 PM - 7 Jun 2017 (https://twitter.com/CoachChrisMack/status/872501787110117376)



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[throwbackmuskie]

Get over yourself dude. It's a message board. Not that serious.

I am not the one who ran my mouth off and suggested a ban bet...

[X-ceptional]

I am not the one who ran my mouth off and suggested a ban bet...

Throwback, message boards are serious enough that threat of never being able to post again is worthy of staking a bet. However, they are not serious enough to follow through upon losing such a bet.

[Nigel Tufnel]

This has me leaning towards hoping for ban.

I'm with you here. Still convinced he/she is a UC troll. But for him/her to have an attitude when called out. I'd be fine if the mods chose to give him/her the axe. Like how politically correct I am?

[throwbackmuskie]

Throwback, message boards are serious enough that threat of never being able to post again is worthy of staking a bet. However, they are not serious enough to follow through upon losing such a bet.

He created the bet, and like I said, someone else pulled up the thread, I forgot about it. It is really funny he doesn't even acknowledge the bet he created.

[throwbackmuskie]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/871901818934177793/YXZqai25_normal.jpgChris Mack
✔@CoachChrisMack (https://twitter.com/CoachChrisMack)

My timing for this house sale, well https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f633.png. But we are moving to NKY. Love Xavier! Now, about that house we have to sell... any takers?
1:13 PM - 7 Jun 2017 (https://twitter.com/CoachChrisMack/status/872501787110117376)



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I think I have it all figured out now. Brannen to O$U and Mack to NKU?

[X-ceptional]

He created the bet, and like I said, someone else pulled up the thread, I forgot about it. It is really funny he doesn't even acknowledge the bet he created.

Yep, I love it. At a minimum, I think it's only fair that he's banned until such time Mack is no longer the Sedler Family Men's Head Basketball Coach.

[X-ceptional]

Also, I'll say I think this thread has turned out just about as good as it could have.

[throwbackmuskie]

So how about a public shaming that involves a few things, The great users will get to pick his new user name, new avatar and signature if he wants to keep posting here/

[SM#24]

Please make it happen Muskie. This is not the Xavier way.
That's because CF is not a Xavier person

[SM#24]

I'm with you here. Still convinced he/she is a UC troll. But for him/her to have an attitude when called out. I'd be fine if the mods chose to give him/her the axe. Like how politically correct I am?
Ding, ding, ding

Also, you're not completely politically correct...I didn't see a gender neutral option.

[GIMMFD]

So how about a public shaming that involves a few things, The great users will get to pick his new user name, new avatar and signature if he wants to keep posting here/

His signature should be this clip on a 24/7 loop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2cXQbPMHvE

[SiberianSpecialForces]

I had to dig up my account just to post at how freaking lame this whole "bet" thing is from all ends, and this board would be much better off if the mods put an end to it. Of course, I understand that I have no say in this as a lurker.

Glad that Chris Mack is likely not going to OSU. I always thought that OSU would be a weird fit for him. He may not have undying loyalty to Xavier and eventually take another job, but it would seem weird to me that he would potentially ruin his legacy to Xavier fans if went to OSU after Matta, especially with this timing.

[Muskie]

Glad that Chris Mack is likely not going to OSU. I always thought that OSU would be a weird fit for him. He may not have undying loyalty to Xavier and eventually take another job, but it would seem weird to me that he would potentially ruin his legacy to Xavier fans if went to OSU after Matta, especially with this timing.

Agree. This team has the potential for a special season ahead as a team and individually. Glad he appears to be sticking around.

[X-ceptional]

I had to dig up my account just to post at how freaking lame this whole "bet" thing is from all ends, and this board would be much better off if the mods put an end to it. Of course, I understand that I have no say in this as a lurker.

Glad that Chris Mack is likely not going to OSU. I always thought that OSU would be a weird fit for him. He may not have undying loyalty to Xavier and eventually take another job, but it would seem weird to me that he would potentially ruin his legacy to Xavier fans if went to OSU after Matta, especially with this timing.

Damn, I thought "SiberianSpecialForces" was going to be an alt account here to raid on CasualFan a la "ThePiper" showing up and demanding payment. Personally, I think the whole thing is funny and at a minimum something else for me to do instead of work. It's the offseason, after all!

[GIMMFD]

Damn, I thought "SiberianSpecialForces" was going to be an alt account here to raid on CasualFan a la "ThePiper" showing up and demanding payment. Personally, I think the whole thing is funny and at a minimum something else for me to do instead of work. It's the offseason, after all!

Amen, I'm grateful for the bits of humor I get as we close into the dead zone time of sports.

[chico]

I'm guessing about the only job Mack would leave for is Louisville, seeing as his wife is form there (and it being a top tier job and all). I am not willing to bet on it, though.

[Nigel Tufnel]

Ding, ding, ding

Also, you're not completely politically correct...I didn't see a gender neutral option.

Haha. I'm too old for that. Should have added Xe or Ze.

I wouldn't care as much about any of this if the guy/girl/xe/ze just admitted to being a UC fan and participated on the board like XUBrew does on the UD board. All the devil's advocate/negative stuff as a perceived X fan is old.

[GuyFawkes38]

Ugh. Here we go again:
https://twitter.com/moegger1530/status/872539754004393984

[throwbackmuskie]

Stoops for Matta, should have just traded.

[Blue Blooded-05]

I wouldn't care as much about any of this if the guy/girl/xe/ze just admitted to being a UC fan and participated on the board like XUBrew does on the UD board. All the devil's advocate/negative stuff as a perceived X fan is old.

I remember in the early days of internet message boards... I'm pretty sure it was after the 2004 A10 Tournament... when I had the fantastic (drunk) idea to register on udpride and pretend to be one of them and start a post with the whole "we should just admit to ourselves that we can't beat these guys" bit.

By this point in my life, I had already learned the important life lesson that drunk $#!+ talking was a bad idea. But this... this wasn't in person... this was over the internet... and they'll think I'm one of them. They'll never know! This was gonna be hilarious!!

Because I am an idiot, I registered under the name Flierfan05 instead of Flyerfan05. Cover = blown. Needless to say, they jumped all over me (and rightfully so).

In the end, instead of having a laugh at their expense, I managed to give them all a laugh at my expense. Which, in fairness, they really needed at that time. In a general sense, this is what every message board troll has become. Trolling on an opponent's message board is like riding a moped... you might think you're the one having fun, but the people that are really having fun are all the people watching you make a fool of yourself.