The Season Starts Today! Trevon Is Staying!

[Snipe]

Before the clock strikes 12:00, I wanted to get it in under the radar.

The 2017 Xavier Basketball Season Started Today, when Tre took himself out of the NBA draft and declared himself the true candidate for MUSKIE OF THE AGES!

I can't tell you how many times I have flat out giggled since the first texts started pouring in.

Like manna from heaven.

This puts us in a power position for 2017. I need to start examining the schedule.

I want nothing but ridiculous expectations! This is the first moment in the rest of your Muskie lives. Years from now you might look back and say that this day was pivotal in the history of Xavier basketball

Your 2017 Xavier Basketball Season started today! And it is glorious!

[GIMMFD]

Damn Snipe, you really know how to give a good pep talk bud. This has to be the deepest team ever assembled right??? In terms of the unknown and the known, we have a top 10 class coming in who we don't really even need to rely on much, the possible Big East Player of the Year coming back, multiple guys with the skill set to improve, in a perfect world Q starts finishing more at the rim like he was beginning to come around tournament time, O'Mara plays like the monster he is when he can when he's confident and not tripping over himself, Kaiser finally shows why Mack calls him the best shooter on the team, incredible experience coming off the heels of an Elite 8 run while facing adversity and almost not making the tournament .... Dear god, I'm salivating.

[Snipe]

You are correct. It is incredible. But it isn't a pep talk. It isn't hype. It is real!

The season started today. We had plenty of ammo for sure. But getting back a potential 1st Team All American is always a good thing. He will end up in the Xavier Hall of Fame for sure. His number is already going to be retired. That is a given.

The only question left is if Trevon ends up as the Greatest Player to ever don the Blue and White. And that is what we added to our team today. And that is why the season starts today.

I will remember today (or now yesterday) for the rest of my life. It is that big. This is BIG.

God Bless That Young Man.

Big things are coming to a venue near you. Buy your tickets now.

[OTRMUSKIE]

Final four or bust. I know it's hard to get there but anything less this year will be not necessarily a disappointment but definitely a slight let down. Thanks Trey for giving men in there 30's and 40's something to talk about.

[X Factor]

Final four or bust. I know it's hard to get there but anything less this year will be not necessarily a disappointment but definitely a slight let down. Thanks Trey for giving men in there 30's and 40's something to talk about.

Only a few schools can actually call their season a disappointment if they don't make the Final Four. Xavier isn't one of them yet.

It almost takes as much luck as talent to make a Final Four. Xavier has the talent, but the NCAA tournament is a crazy beast.

[GrimeTime]

That look you get when talk of "Muskie of the Ages" is mentioned on the message boards...
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[drudy23]

That look you get when talk of "Muskie of the Ages" is mentioned on the message boards...
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If Tre leads us to a Final Four, he's in the conversation.

[KabeX]

D.F.W. and now T.F.B. Man I wish it was Nov.

[bleedXblue]

Should be Top 20 preseason and picked to finish 2nd in the BE.

Really solid core of Tre, Goodin, JP, Kaiser and Sean.

Improvement out of Tyrique and immediate contribution from Kanter would be a really solid 7.

A few of the frosh developing and helping mid to late year will make for a really promising year.

How many scholarship players do we have? I count 11.

Could we add another this summer?

[GrimeTime]

If Tre leads us to a Final Four, he's in the conversation.

I totally agree. Tre is going to be right up there with the best of the best. Pretty darn excited for this year already! =)

[nuts4xu]

How many scholarship players do we have? I count 11.

Could we add another this summer?

We currently have 12 players on scholarship:

1 Trevon Bluiett
2 JP Macura
3 Sean O'Mara
4 Kerem Kanter
5 Kaiser Gates
6 Tyrique Jones
7 Quentin Goodin
8 Elias Harden
9 Jared Ridder
10 Naji Marshall
11Kentrevious Jones
12 Paul Scruggs

We will likely save that last ship for next year. At this stage of the game, we have enough on our roster for next season. Plus, if someone is looking to transfer, we can take a flyer.

[THRILLHOUSE]

If Tre leads us to a Final Four, he's in the conversation.

Even if he doesn't, all he has to do is average a little over 15ppg to be the 2nd all time leading scorer in program history. So yeah, I think that qualifies.

[drudy23]

Even if he doesn't, all he has to do is average a little over 15ppg to be the 2nd all time leading scorer in program history. So yeah, I think that qualifies.

But I don't think he makes the rafters with just being the second leading scorer. Needs something else to go with it (POY or FF).

[MuskieXU]

I think he has a solid case to be in the rafters. On top of being the 2nd leading scorer he should have the most wins as a starter all time, and the most tourney wins all time. You also cant underestimate the fact that he played in the Big East his whole career.

[ReturnOfTheMack]

We currently have 12 players on scholarship:

1 Trevon Bluiett
2 JP Macura
3 Sean O'Mara
4 Kerem Kanter
5 Kaiser Gates
6 Tyrique Jones
7 Quentin Goodin
8 Elias Harden
9 Jared Ridder
10 Naji Marshall
11Kentrevious Jones
12 Paul Scruggs

We will likely save that last ship for next year. At this stage of the game, we have enough on our roster for next season. Plus, if someone is looking to transfer, we can take a flyer.

I have no intimate information regarding Big Kent but just reading the tea leaves, and it sounds like the odds of him being a member of this program next year are getting longer and longer.

[Ohionite_X]

A few of the frosh developing and helping mid to late year will make for a really promising year.

How many scholarship players do we have? I count 11.

Could we add another this summer?

12 Scholarship players right now with the extra scholly likely being held out for the 2018 class at this point.

I'm also under the impression that Scruggs will be an immediate contributor, as in our 3rd or 4th leading scorer all season. I'm almost positive he'll start at from day 1.

A starting lineup of Q, Scruggs, JP, Bluiett, and Tyrique has just about everything you'd want in it.

[Strange Brew]

we can take a flyer.

Ew, no thanks...

[xudash]

Only a few schools can actually call their season a disappointment if they don't make the Final Four. Xavier isn't one of them yet.

It almost takes as much luck as talent to make a Final Four. Xavier has the talent, but the NCAA tournament is a crazy beast.

This.

I have to note that it would be a deeply satisfying thing for Xavier to make the F4 next year, of all years. At least a couple of us here will be celebrating our 40th Class Reunion next year.

I've shared here before the time when Bob Staak arrived on campus and held something that probably hadn't been done at Xavier for a long time: a pep rally, which was held in the Armory. Ground floor, baby. The only way to look was up, and looking up required a boatload of hope, faith and imagination back then. Among other things, the Cintas Center at that time was a parking lot.

Give me two things to go along with an obvious third thing: no injuries and abundant team chemistry. The third thing is our coaching staff. From there, once we get there, let there be good lucked sprinkled on Xavier on the way to a NC.

[D-West & PO-Z]

But I don't think he makes the rafters with just being the second leading scorer. Needs something else to go with it (POY or FF).


I think he has a solid case to be in the rafters. On top of being the 2nd leading scorer he should have the most wins as a starter all time, and the most tourney wins all time. You also cant underestimate the fact that he played in the Big East his whole career.

Yeah I think he is pretty much a lock for the rafters barring any unforeseen circumstances. Should be a 3 time All Big East 1st teamer. Will probably end up 2nd on all time scoring. Wonder were he is on some other statistics. He was also unreal on our Elite 8 run last year.

[MuskieXU]

Yeah I think he is pretty much a lock for the rafters barring any unforeseen circumstances. Should be a 3 time All Big East 1st teamer. Will probably end up 2nd on all time scoring. Wonder were he is on some other statistics. He was also unreal on our Elite 8 run last year.

Dont think he would be in the Top 10 in Rebounds with 569 currently or assists with 219 currently. He has a chance to break the all time 3PM record of 307, as he has 214 currently and made 91 last year.

[XMuskieFTW]

D West is at 2132 points which barring injury we should see Trevon easily beat. (15.6 ppg over 35 games) 2178 would put Tre into top ten all time in scoring for players who played for a team in the Big East. (16.9 ppg over 35 games) If Tre were to averaged 18.5 ppg again over 35 games he would be at 2223 which would be good for 8th all time in the Big East. I also believe this team will play more than 35 games.

[GIMMFD]

Yeah I think he is pretty much a lock for the rafters barring any unforeseen circumstances. Should be a 3 time All Big East 1st teamer. Will probably end up 2nd on all time scoring. Wonder were he is on some other statistics. He was also unreal on our Elite 8 run last year.

I think he'll seal it if we get anything further than second round, because that would be 2 Sweet 16s, 1 Elite 8 to contribute with being the number 2 leading all time scorer in program history. I would be all for hanging 5 up there in the Cintas rafters.


EDIT: Also I think a lot of us forget, Coach Mack only needs 16 more wins to tie the winningest head coach in Xavier history which should definitely happen next season. It's going to be a memorable one.

[XMuskieFTW]

Dont think he would be in the Top 10 in Rebounds with 569 currently or assists with 219 currently. He has a chance to break the all time 3PM record of 307, as he has 214 currently and made 91 last year.

James Posey is 10th all time in rebounding at 801 and Luther Rackley is 11th at 750. Tre has a good shot at 11th. 10th would be tough to get to.

[muskienick]

Final four or bust. I know it's hard to get there but anything less this year will be not necessarily a disappointment but definitely a slight let down. Thanks Trey for giving men in there 30's and 40's something to talk about.

...and 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, and 90's. Maybe there are even a few 100+ year-olders out there planning to watch XU in the Final Four in 2018!

[AviatorX]

Yeah I think he is pretty much a lock for the rafters barring any unforeseen circumstances. Should be a 3 time All Big East 1st teamer. Will probably end up 2nd on all time scoring. Wonder were he is on some other statistics. He was also unreal on our Elite 8 run last year.

You sure he's athletic enough for the Big East though?

(Just kidding XFanKY, don't come after me.)

[nuts4xu]

I have no intimate information regarding Big Kent but just reading the tea leaves, and it sounds like the odds of him being a member of this program next year are getting longer and longer.

This has been the consensus for many months, you are correct and accurate. No argument here.

Until I hear otherwise, I will consider him a member of this recruiting class. He would be a nice player to develop in our program.

[markchal]

Give me two things to go along with an obvious third thing: no injuries and abundant team chemistry. The third thing is our coaching staff. From there, once we get there, let there be good lucked sprinkled on Xavier on the way to a NC.

While it's definitely a challenge bringing up to speed the 5 who haven't played college ball and working Kanter into the mix, you can't overestimate how important that run in March was for the returning core. The developments and confidence guys like Kaiser, O'Mara, Q and Tyrique gained in the tournament will be giving Tre and JP a much stronger supporting cast. I am so excited to watch these guys play.

[smileyy]

But I don't think he makes the rafters with just being the second leading scorer. Needs something else to go with it (POY or FF).

Somehow Larkin, Hill and Grant got up there. I don't think that bar is quite as high as you're making it out to be. 4 years, 2000 points, an S16 and an E8 is a pretty good resume.

[smileyy]

he should have the most wins as a starter all time, and the most tourney wins all time

Who is that these days? Jason Love? Dante Jackson?

Edit: Plz forgive me

[smileyy]

Due to what I'm assuming are incomplete records, http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/leaders/pts-player-career.html is missing a bunch of Byron Larkin's points :(

[MuskieXU]

Somehow Larkin, Hill and Grant got up there. I don't think that bar is quite as high as you're making it out to be. 4 years, 2000 points, an S16 and an E8 is a pretty good resume.

Sato had 4 years, 2000 points, Xaviers first Elite 8, and was a better rebounder and a better defender but I dont think he will be there. I think the bar has been raised, and continues to be raised due to Xaviers success.

[XUFan09]

Who is that these days? Jason Love? Dante Jackson?

Edit: Plz forgive me
Love. Jackson almost caught up to him, but that 2011 team lost in the first round of the conference tournament and NCAA tournament.

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[THRILLHOUSE]

This has been the consensus for many months, you are correct and accurate. No argument here.

Until I hear otherwise, I will consider him a member of this recruiting class. He would be a nice player to develop in our program.

I hope Kent makes it. Just based on his tweets he seems super eager to come to X.

[smileyy]

Love. Jackson almost caught up to him, but that 2011 team lost in the first round of the conference tournament and NCAA tournament.


I'm guessing this is based on team wins, not games played, right?

[MuskieXU]

Love. Jackson almost caught up to him, but that 2011 team lost in the first round of the conference tournament and NCAA tournament.

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I dont have the number for wins as a starter or contributor, but barring injury or suspension TB should shatter it. He has 72 wins as a starter (has started in all but 3 wins in his career). As for total wins while on the team, Love is in the lead with 108. TB would need 33 to tie that, which probably wont happen.

[smileyy]

I forgot how successful that '07-'10 run of wins was. Playing in the A-10 sure helped with that.

Over the last 3 years, X has won 24, 28 and 23 games, giving Tre 75 team wins. If anyone is going to take a run at Love, it'd be Gates with 52 through his first two seasons.

[XMuskieFTW]

I forgot how successful that '07-'10 run of wins was. Playing in the A-10 sure helped with that.

Over the last 3 years, X has won 24, 28 and 23 games, giving Tre 75 team wins. If anyone is going to take a run at Love, it'd be Gates with 52 through his first two seasons.

By my math, 75+40=115. :D

[D-West & PO-Z]

Sato had 4 years, 2000 points, Xaviers first Elite 8, and was a better rebounder and a better defender but I dont think he will be there. I think the bar has been raised, and continues to be raised due to Xaviers success.

Sato was really good and he would be, imo, the next guy considered, but he is hurt by the fact that he was never the go to guy on his team. Not any fault of his own but it was West for 3 years then Chalmers going nuts for half a year the next.

Again smileyy brought it up earlier too, the level of competition current X players are facing too is way up.

3 time all 1st team BE and 2nd all time scorer in school history would cement it for me. But we shall see.

[scoscox]

Sato was really good and he would be, imo, the next guy considered, but he is hurt by the fact that he was never the go to guy on his team. Not any fault of his own but it was West for 3 years then Chalmers going nuts for half a year the next.

Again smileyy brought it up earlier too, the level of competition current X players are facing too is way up.

3 time all 1st team BE and 2nd all time scorer in school history would cement it for me. But we shall see.

Exactly, also having the most NCAA tournament wins in school history will go a long way in making trevon's case.

[Masterofreality]

Before the clock strikes 12:00, I wanted to get it in under the radar.

The 2017 Xavier Basketball Season Started Today, when Tre took himself out of the NBA draft and declared himself the true candidate for MUSKIE OF THE AGES!

I can't tell you how many times I have flat out giggled since the first texts started pouring in.

Like manna from heaven.

This puts us in a power position for 2017. I need to start examining the schedule.

I want nothing but ridiculous expectations! This is the first moment in the rest of your Muskie lives. Years from now you might look back and say that this day was pivotal in the history of Xavier basketball

Your 2017 Xavier Basketball Season started today! And it is glorious!

Brother, line up your tavern roster now, cause Nut's Daddy will have his ass in town next year......A LOT!!!

[MADXSTER]

My wife and I are already making plans for the BE tournament. :)

[THRILLHOUSE]

NBC Sports has Tre 2nd Team AA in their most recent pre-season list:

http://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2017/05/25/nbc-sports-2017-18-college-basketball-preseason-all-american-team/

[RyanblockXU]

Rothstein had Xavier at 13th in his poll and UC at 11th.

I'm excited for next year. But also, bringing in 6 new guys is going to take some adjustment. Team Chemistry is going to be a must. Last year, the rotation quickly shortened and the team kinda rallied around not having Sumner or Myles and that smaller rotation gave them absolute great team chemistry to finish the season.

Next year, were adding in a multitude of different personalities and a lot of highly touted guys. I just hope everyone excepts their role.


I think the bright spot in all this: The Non conference should be fairly easy to get past. Baylor will be down, Utah will be way down, Wisconsin will be mediocre and Northern Iowa (assuming we still play them) will be down as well. So we have chances to get big name wins against high major teams in rebuilding years. Games like that will build chemistry.

[nuts4xu]

I think the bright spot in all this: The Non conference should be fairly easy to get past. Baylor will be down, Utah will be way down, Wisconsin will be mediocre and Northern Iowa (assuming we still play them) will be down as well. So we have chances to get big name wins against high major teams in rebuilding years. Games like that will build chemistry.

I think the game we drop to make room for Wisconsin will be the Utah game.

[Snipe]

If Tre leads us to a Final Four, he's in the conversation.

I agree, although I think it may be a short conversation.

[Snipe]

While it's definitely a challenge bringing up to speed the 5 who haven't played college ball and working Kanter into the mix, you can't overestimate how important that run in March was for the returning core. The developments and confidence guys like Kaiser, O'Mara, Q and Tyrique gained in the tournament will be giving Tre and JP a much stronger supporting cast. I am so excited to watch these guys play.

I completely agree with your take here.

[Snipe]

Sato had 4 years, 2000 points, Xaviers first Elite 8, and was a better rebounder and a better defender but I dont think he will be there. I think the bar has been raised, and continues to be raised due to Xaviers success.

You actually make a great point for Sato being in the rafters. Man that kid was good. And so many double-doubles as a shooting guard. Rebounding is a big part of our game and that kid was flat out exceptional. But then again many of the flock have been exceptional. Tu Holloway was such a baller, just a flat out baller. The list goes on. I love all those kids, but you can't put them all up there.

It should be tough to get to the rafters.

Tre isn't a lock to be in the rafters. The rafters means his number is retired and his jersey is risen up for all to see for eternity. Now when it comes to the Xavier Hall of Fame, Tre is now obviously a lock for that. Nobody is going to question that. If he is healthy

If we make the Final Four, you got some automatic rafters.

[GIMMFD]

You actually make a great point for Sato being in the rafters. Man that kid was good. And so many double-doubles as a shooting guard. Rebounding is a big part of our game and that kid was flat out exceptional. But then again many of the flock have been exceptional. Tu Holloway was such a baller, just a flat out baller. The list goes on. I love all those kids, but you can't put them all up there.

It should be tough to get to the rafters.

Tre isn't a lock to be in the rafters. The rafters means his number is retired and his jersey is risen up for all to see for eternity. Now when it comes to the Xavier Hall of Fame, Tre is now obviously a lock for that. Nobody is going to question that. If he is healthy

If we make the Final Four, you got some automatic rafters.

Yeah first Final Four in history? It would be absurd for him not to have his jersey retires if he plays a key role in that. Honestly, I think we should just sit back and enjoy the ride, let's see what happens and appreciate the last year we have with Tre, and just embrace his greatness.

[American X]

All-American. That is all.

[Snipe]

The way he played last night taking over that game is still sending shivers down my spine.

I love winning.

[mid major]

Winning isn't everything...it's the only thing.

[American X]

All American. Crosstown Shootout Champion.

[GoMuskies]

Champion of life

[American X]

All-Americans make game-winning shots.

[American X]

Legend Mode

[GIMMFD]

Legend Mode

31 on 16 shots... now that's what I call efficient.

[American X]

All-America Candidate Trevon Bluiett Is On Wooden Award Late Season Top 20 (http://goxavier.com/news/2018/2/5/mens-basketball-xavier-all-america-candidate-trevon-bluiett-named-on-wooden-award-late-season-top-20.aspx)

CINCINNATI – The Los Angeles Athletic Club announced that Xavier University senior guard Trevon Bluiett has been named on the John R. Wooden Award® presented by Wendy's® Late Season Top 20 list. Chosen by a poll of national college basketball experts, the list is comprised of 20 student-athletes who are currently the front-runners for the prestigious John R. Wooden Award and All-America Team.

[American X]

Legend Mode

All-American

[markchal]

#Retire5

[American X]

Trevon is 18 points away from David West.

[UCGRAD4X]

Love the hell out of DFW, but I hope TFB passes him early in the first half.

[GIMMFD]

Love the hell out of DFW, but I hope TFB passes him early in the first half.

I hope he passes Sato and DFW tomorrow, because that means he had a ridiculous game, and we're gonna need that.

[GIMMFD]

Love the hell out of DFW, but I hope TFB passes him early in the first half.

I hope he passes Sato and DFW tomorrow, because that means he had a ridiculous game, and we're gonna need that.

[UCGRAD4X]

I hope he passes Sato and DFW tomorrow, because that means he had a ridiculous game, and we're gonna need that.


I hope he passes Sato and DFW tomorrow, because that means he had a ridiculous game, and we're gonna need that.

I guess it bears repeating.:dizzy: