Seat Selection Emails

[Muskie]

Are starting to deliver!

[STL_XUfan]

Are starting to deliver!

Complete with your password included in an unsecured email!

[bjf123]

Complete with your password included in an unsecured email!

I've already emailed back about that. Talk about stupid.

My selection time is May 15, a little before noon.


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[nuts4xu]

May 15 at 8:30 am

[Lamont Sanford]

May 24 9:12am

[bjf123]

May 15 at 8:30 am

You're a few hours before me. DON'T TAKE MY SEATS!


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[bigdiggins]

Apparently I'm screwed based on your selection times. I'm not until the 26th @ 2pm. And the fact that it is through the ticketmaster web-site which is blocked at work should make it interesting.

[94GRAD]

5/4 at 830am. I'm taking everyone's seat!!!

[kmcrawfo]

5/4 at 830am. I'm taking everyone's seat!!!

5/1/2017 at 9:04am... my Plan is to sneak up and snag BJ'S preferred seats.

[GIMMFD]

Lmao I feel like I'm back at X signing up for classes and watching the madness ensue.

[WCWIII]

Soon to be first time MBB season ticket holder. Effective 5/19 4:26PM. Good thing I get to pick my seat an hour earlier from Chi town!

[bjf123]

I wonder how many minutes apart they're setting the times?


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[gladdenguy]

May 15th at 12:36 or 12:38....can't remember which

I'm way too excited about this

[coasterville95]

I'm Also on the screwed end. May 22 at 8:51.

I hadn't thought about it but i do feel like a frosh trying to get into a popular class. Hoping it is still available when I get to my day, then through the line snaking through Alter hall then up the secret stairs to the registrars office. Where do I get my closed course exception form!

I was reading the email at lunch, praising Xavier for the video and promise of a step by step guide and an interactive demonstration and all that. Then I saw my password staring me in the face.

Does Xavier not teach about cyber security?

Knowing I am towards the tail end of the selection. Getting nervous.

[X-man]

May 16 at 9:05. I sure hope my current seats are still there. And remember, Coasterville, that most of the people ahead of you are high rollers who will be selecting in high roller areas.

[fellahmuskie]

June 1 at 5:01. Can't wait!! Even though pickings will be slim for me, it'll be interesting to watch Cintas fill up each day during the process.

[bleedXblue]

Apparently I'm screwed based on your selection times. I'm not until the 26th @ 2pm. And the fact that it is through the ticketmaster web-site which is blocked at work should make it interesting.

I was told you could show up at Cintas and select from there?

[bleedXblue]

Soon to be first time MBB season ticket holder. Effective 5/19 4:26PM. Good thing I get to pick my seat an hour earlier from Chi town!

Just curious how you got such an early time? Are you a big donor to the AFO?

[Muskie]

Just curious how you got such an early time? Are you a big donor to the AFO? That's my guess. Donates to AFO most likely.

[Muskie]

I cannot get the videos on the Experience Cintas site to show up. Any ideas?

[nuts4xu]

Just curious how you got such an early time? Are you a big donor to the AFO?

They assigned the times based on your point total. Points are given for having season tickets, donations to the AFO, being an alum, etc. My seats are in my dads name, and he has had season tickets for 30 years. The better your seats, the more expensive they are, resulting in a higher point total. During the past few months they have had a number of information meetings for season ticket holders to attend. We were shown the process and the new wider seats.

Based on your point total, you learn the seat locations you are eligible. If you wanted better seats, they would tell you how large a donation you needed to give. So if you haven't been a long time season ticket holder, or if you haven't given much to the AFO, your seat selection time would later.

[bleedXblue]

They assigned the times based on your point total. Points are given for having season tickets, donations to the AFO, being an alum, etc. My seats are in my dads name, and he has had season tickets for 30 years. The better your seats, the more expensive they are, resulting in a higher point total. During the past few months they have had a number of information meetings for season ticket holders to attend. We were shown the process and the new wider seats.

Based on your point total, you learn the seat locations you are eligible. If you wanted better seats, they would tell you how large a donation you needed to give. So if you haven't been a long time season ticket holder, or if you haven't given much to the AFO, your seat selection time would later.

That's why I asked b/c he's not been a season ticket holder which is the easiest way to earn points outside of donations to the AFO

[94GRAD]

5/1/2017 at 9:04am... my Plan is to sneak up and snag BJ'S preferred seats.

*Puts tail between legs and slinks away

[coasterville95]

I was told you could show up at Cintas and select from there?

It said there would be representatives to help you at Cintas wether that means talking to the box office and having them do it or them showing you to a laptop to seat yourself remains to be seen.

[paulxu]

kmcrawfo...can I borrow your passcode at 9:06 on 5/1/17?

I'll only need it for a few minutes.

[Roadlife]

I was under the impression that the new wider seats were needed for the "fat" cats.

[nuts4xu]

It said there would be representatives to help you at Cintas wether that means talking to the box office and having them do it or them showing you to a laptop to seat yourself remains to be seen.

During initial seat the selection process when the Cintas center opened, you showed up at your given time (they gave times back then too) and could walk around the arena to get an idea which seats you wanted. I am not sure if the seats will be installed in time for the selection process this time around, but my hunch is they will be. You can also select your seats on line, but I am not exactly sure how that works.

[Xavier]

The new seats won't be installed by then. It won't work that way (unless you have seats that are not part of the new section) I'd imagine.

[nuts4xu]

I was under the impression that the new wider seats were needed for the "fat" cats.

New wider seats are being installed for the first several rows around the floor, and come with added cost. If you had a seat in section 104, row C, and want that same location...you will pay an extra $1000 for 2 seats. The seats will be wider to accommodate a larger ass, and the cost will be worth it for anyone currently spilling into the seat next to them.

[SM#24]

Apparently I'm screwed based on your selection times. I'm not until the 26th @ 2pm. And the fact that it is through the ticketmaster web-site which is blocked at work should make it interesting.
You could use your phone or a tablet.

[bigdiggins]

You could use your phone or a tablet.

That's my plan. I've had issues in the past though where every time you change the page it reverts to the mobile version of the site again. I'll test it after the test site is up on I think the 17th.

[Xaveriana]

5/4 at 830am. I'm taking everyone's seat!!!

Nice work, HIGH ROLLER!!! 5/4 is impressive. Not till 5/11 at 2:30 (week later).

[kmcrawfo]

kmcrawfo...can I borrow your passcode at 9:06 on 5/1/17?

I'll only need it for a few minutes.

How about I just cut and paste the email they sent me with the time/date at 900am on 5-1-17.

Doesn't it have a direct link to each person's account along with the password?

[kmcrawfo]

During initial seat the selection process when the Cintas center opened, you showed up at your given time (they gave times back then too) and could walk around the arena to get an idea which seats you wanted. I am not sure if the seats will be installed in time for the selection process this time around, but my hunch is they will be. You can also select your seats on line, but I am not exactly sure how that works.

I was hoping this would be the case this year, but apparently the place will still be relatively barren on May 1st. I wanted to see the new Living Room seats and get a feel for that view. I like the concept of having an all-inclusive (beer/food/everything) mini-suite type space, but wasn't sure how good the view would be from that location.

[xu82]

I'll just go to StubHub and pay through the nose like I always do.....

[paulxu]

How about I just cut and paste the email they sent me with the time/date at 900am on 5-1-17.

Doesn't it have a direct link to each person's account along with the password?


I was hoping this would be the case this year, but apparently the place will still be relatively barren on May 1st. I wanted to see the new Living Room seats and get a feel for that view. I like the concept of having an all-inclusive (beer/food/everything) mini-suite type space, but wasn't sure how good the view would be from that location.

That sounds like an excellent plan; except Fr. Graham and MOR are probably at 9 AM, followed no doubt by Go at 9:03.
I'll just follow along after you, if that's OK.

Are you thinking about giving up your floor seats?

[GoMuskies]

That sounds like an excellent plan; except Fr. Graham and MOR are probably at 9 AM, followed no doubt by Go at 9:03.
I'll just follow along after you, if that's OK.

Are you thinking about giving up your floor seats?

No, you misunderstood paul. The seat selection times are based on number of points, not number of posts. I have a TON of the latter. Sadly, I have NONE of the former.

[bjf123]

The new seats won't be installed by then. It won't work that way (unless you have seats that are not part of the new section) I'd imagine.

I'd like to be there to select my seats, but agree that a lot of them won't be in place. Isn't everything that retracts being replaced, along with the wider seats for the first few rows around center court? The new lookout above the student section probably won't be in place yet either. Might be easier to do it online.Since mine time is a Monday, I'll have the weekend to see what's available. I'm assuming there are no weekend times being handed out.


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[coasterville95]

If you were interested in what the living room seats are like, they have a room in Cintas with a mock up of it. With examples of each type of seating

[paulxu]

I've got a living room seat here in South Carolina.

[kmcrawfo]

That sounds like an excellent plan; except Fr. Graham and MOR are probably at 9 AM, followed no doubt by Go at 9:03.
I'll just follow along after you, if that's OK.

Are you thinking about giving up your floor seats?

Keeping the courtside seats for sure. I have 8 others though and trying to decide what is best family, friends, employees, or folks I give tickets to to enjoy the game.

Thought about getting the first row right behind some courtside seats so my family or friends can sit back to back vs. Getting 8 of the living room seats side by side and having my own mini suite, but then separated from my family when I b am on court. Really not sure what is best.

What would others do? Would people rather sit in a living room suite with free, unlimited food and drinks and tons of space or in the first row of the front line.

[muskiefan82]

Keeping the courtside seats for sure. I have 8 others though and trying to decide what is best family, friends, employees, or folks I give tickets to to enjoy the game.

Thought about getting the first row right behind some courtside seats so my family or friends can sit back to back vs. Getting 8 of the living room seats side by side and having my own mini suite, but then separated from my family when I b am on court. Really not sure what is best.

What would others do? Would people rather sit in a living room suite with free, unlimited food and drinks and tons of space or in the first row of the front line.

I think I wish I was your family

[kmcrawfo]

I think I wish I was your family

I give a lot of the seats away on this board, so in a sense all of us xavier fans are family

[Masterofreality]

5/4 at 830am. I'm taking everyone's seat!!!

May 10. 11:46am.

I'm taking the sloppy seconds left over from Mr. BarMan.

[Masterofreality]

That's my guess. Donates to AFO most likely.

This is correct.

[Masterofreality]

Soon to be first time MBB season ticket holder. Effective 5/19 4:26PM. Good thing I get to pick my seat an hour earlier from Chi town!


Just curious how you got such an early time? Are you a big donor to the AFO?

That, plus he's the smartest man....IN ANY ROOM! :biggrin:

[paulxu]

What would others do? Would people rather sit in a living room suite with free, unlimited food and drinks and tons of space or in the first row of the front line.

I'll be sitting in the (my) living room with free, unlimited food and drinks.
Take the floor seats, put friends and family right behind you. They'll enjoy the close action. It's only a couple hours.
Then they'll be back home with the rest of us watching in the (their) living rooms.

[X-band '01]

I'll just go to StubHub and pay through the nose like I always do.....

And fly on United Airlines.

[muskienick]

I was under the impression that the new wider seats were needed for the "fat" cats.

Ironically, if our group were to move from the "blue-hair" area of the Cintas, Section 110, rows R & S, up to the Tier immediately above us in Section 212, we would get the same 18"-wide seats!

[94GRAD]

Keeping the courtside seats for sure. I have 8 others though and trying to decide what is best family, friends, employees, or folks I give tickets to to enjoy the game.

Thought about getting the first row right behind some courtside seats so my family or friends can sit back to back vs. Getting 8 of the living room seats side by side and having my own mini suite, but then separated from my family when I b am on court. Really not sure what is best.

What would others do? Would people rather sit in a living room suite with free, unlimited food and drinks and tons of space or in the first row of the front line.

Personally, I think Unlimited food and drink are overrated. I think the best seats would be row 5/6 of the front line on the aisle across from the X bench(section 108 I believe). You're watching the game from a little higher of an advantage point while staying close to the court and you're on the side of the aisle where no one will be walking in your view.

[WCWIII]

Keeping the courtside seats for sure. I have 8 others though and trying to decide what is best family, friends, employees, or folks I give tickets to to enjoy the game.


If I had your problems ...

Courtside is a special experience (based on a couple WBB games). You get to hear the refs talk to players, you catch an errant pass or two, and if you're lucky, a 260 sweaty all-muscle player lands on you. First row or two has some of that. One question I have about row one is whether the media table in front will be too high especially with a wall of laptop screens ... 94Grad's optimum is probably correct for watching the game. However, rows 1 or 2 would have more of an experience aspect. Behind the bench gives you other perspectives. You can hear some of Mack's speak after a certain bad play rather than rely on lip-reading. I have doctor friend with tickets a row or two behind the visitor's bench. Great experience there as well ... we know all things Xavier it is fun to see the other team and coaches up close.

Great thing about Cintas is you can enjoy the game anywhere. I didn't think of the Living Room as a mini-suite, but that's a perfect thought. So my suggestion is a KC Living Room Suite plus 4 front rows near the aisle where you can easily visit with your family, friends, etc. At half-time, visit the other 4 up in the living room and get a snack and drink.

Others might want to be the guy behind the interviews with the announcers (please don't wave at the camera). Someone savvy will pick the row just in front of or just behind Luke Murray's guest seats. I'm sure there are other great options.

[coasterville95]

The packets are arriving in the mail. They spent a lot on full color glossy booklet that explains the online upgrade process in detail.

Packet did answer a couple more questions. The appointments span from may 1 to "late June". That would seem to put me about half way through. Starting to feel better.

It also said that you will not be able to preview the seats in the arena. However there is a room (as I mentioned earlier) with mock ups of the new premium areas and examples of the seating.

The packet also has the forms to merge accounts for seat selection (you will pick according to the latest appointment time) or to give somebody proxy rights to speak for you.

They did splash your username and password right atop the letter in the headers. And get this. "If you can't select yourself and wish to use the online method, just give your username and password to your proxy"

Oh lastly, hidden in that booklet "the online process is NOT COMPATIBLE with mobile devices!!"

[SlimKibbles]

May 22, 12:49 PM for me. After my dad passed away in 2013, I ended up switching the tickets into my name starting with the 2014-15 season. He had season tickets in his name from 1988 until the 2013-14 season. The AFO points reset when they switched over to me. I talked to XU about it but they said those were the rules. I hope I'll get to sit with the people my family has sat next to since Cintas opened. I worry everything around them will be gone.


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[Xavier]

Really wish it would have been done the same way it was when Cintas opened. If you are switching seats bc of prices or someone already snagged your seats it would be nice to go look at the view from other seats. It isn't that big of a deal, there really isn't a bad seat in Cintas but I feel like this whole thing could have been done much better (from start to finish).

[bjf123]

Oh lastly, hidden in that booklet "the online process is NOT COMPATIBLE with mobile devices!!"

That's absolutely ridiculous in today's tech environment. Couple this with both emailing in plain text and printing in the letter your user ID and password and I'm wondering where the school's IT department is. If they don't know any better, what they heck are they teaching in classes?


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[Get Real]

XU87, did you ever find out the time for EL Doctor?

[kmcrawfo]

I stopped by Cintas today and looked at a seat preview room. It was really helpful to see the differences between everything especially for my wife. Those new seats at the front line section are pretty awesome. I also like the new cup holders it looks like they are installing

[kmcrawfo]

The packets are arriving in the mail. They spent a lot on full color glossy booklet that explains the online upgrade process in detail.

Packet did answer a couple more questions. The appointments span from may 1 to "late June". That would seem to put me about half way through. Starting to feel better.

It also said that you will not be able to preview the seats in the arena. However there is a room (as I mentioned earlier) with mock ups of the new premium areas and examples of the seating.

The packet also has the forms to merge accounts for seat selection (you will pick according to the latest appointment time) or to give somebody proxy rights to speak for you.

They did splash your username and password right atop the letter in the headers. And get this. "If you can't select yourself and wish to use the online method, just give your username and password to your proxy"

Oh lastly, hidden in that booklet "the online process is NOT COMPATIBLE with mobile devices!!"

Just found the same packet at my home today. The interesting thing is that my package says my selection time is 9:54 a.m. my email says it is 9:04 a.m. I wonder is a typo or which one is accurate?

[xu82]

Just found the same packet at my home today. The interesting thing is that my package says my selection time is 9:54 a.m. my email says it is 9:04 a.m. I wonder is a typo or which one is accurate?

When in doubt, jump early! I'm quite sure you will be treated fairly.

[paulxu]

Just found the same packet at my home today. The interesting thing is that my package says my selection time is 9:54 a.m. my email says it is 9:04 a.m. I wonder is a typo or which one is accurate?

I'm guessing that's the last time you share your password with me.

[Masterofreality]

The packets are arriving in the mail. They spent a lot on full color glossy booklet that explains the online upgrade process in detail.

Packet did answer a couple more questions. The appointments span from may 1 to "late June". That would seem to put me about half way through. Starting to feel better.

It also said that you will not be able to preview the seats in the arena. However there is a room (as I mentioned earlier) with mock ups of the new premium areas and examples of the seating.

The packet also has the forms to merge accounts for seat selection (you will pick according to the latest appointment time) or to give somebody proxy rights to speak for you.

They did splash your username and password right atop the letter in the headers. And get this. "If you can't select yourself and wish to use the online method, just give your username and password to your proxy"

Oh lastly, hidden in that booklet "the online process is NOT COMPATIBLE with mobile devices!!"

I'm VERY disappointed that the booklet did NOT have a seating chart that would reflect the new configurations. I don't know if my seats are really changing or not.

[coasterville95]

I thought I saw a new seating chart someplace. Maybe the website. It's not as detailed as how many seats are in each row however

Contest to Music hall. Even thought I let my subscription lapse two or three years ago they still sent me a select your seat packet. (Music Hall is losing about 1,000 seats in the renovation). Their booklet had a detailed chart showing exactly how many seats in each row and what price zone each seat is.

[bjf123]

This web site shows the new configuration and how many seats are in each price point. It doesn't get into how many are in each numbered section or row.

http://www.experiencecintascenter.com/seat-locations/


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[kmcrawfo]

This web site shows the new configuration and how many seats are in each price point. It doesn't get into how many are in each numbered section or row.

http://www.experiencecintascenter.com/seat-locations/


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I just logged into my Musketeer account and was able to see a detailed seating chart we every single specific seating location. Very helpful....

[Masterofreality]

I just logged into my Musketeer account and was able to see a detailed seating chart we every single specific seating location. Very helpful....

Where is that Kev? I can't find it. Thanks.

[bjf123]

After logging in, there's a box on the left side of the screen showing Basketball Seat Selection and a link for Select Your Seats. From there, you can walk through the steps. I also figured out why you can't do this on a mobile device. The interactive seating chart uses Flash. Really? That will make it tough to do on a Mac, since Apple blocks Flash by default. C'mon X, you need to up your technology.

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[coasterville95]

Thanks - I just did the test drive for the process. Yeah, I am moving into Courtside for the (TEST) upgrade price of $0.00 per seat.

I also verified doing it on iOS is out. You get to the choose your seat page, then it locks up.

It's a bit clumsy but you can get row seat counts and the like using that, and get a feel for how big or small some of the areas may be. You can go all the way to "Pick Shipping Method" - there your only choice is STOP HERE. And the continue button is grayed out.

Each screen has a time limit, so no dawdling once you have picked your seats out.

[XUOWNSUC]

I just logged into my Musketeer account and was able to see a detailed seating chart we every single specific seating location. Very helpful....

How did it go today?

[Muskie]

anyone selected yet?

[XUOWNSUC]

Quick question - I thought that I read somewhere that Xavier was going to have a way where you could check every day to see what seats have been taken so far. Did anybody else hear or see anything about this? If it exists I want to check it every day (or hour). Anybody know?

[fellahmuskie]

Quick question - I thought that I read somewhere that Xavier was going to have a way where you could check every day to see what seats have been taken so far. Did anybody else hear or see anything about this? If it exists I want to check it every day (or hour). Anybody know?

I was looking for it too this morning, but couldn't find it. Maybe it will only go live tonight?

[X-man]

I was looking for it too this morning, but couldn't find it. Maybe it will only go live tonight?

The mailed packet says that it is updated at the end of each day. So the first update will be tonight.

[deepX]

Click on the link on the prior page http://www.experiencecintascenter.com/seat-locations/

then select CURRENT AVAILABILITY under SEAT SELECTION. This is scheduled to be updated at 7PM each evening.

[bjf123]

Click on the link on the prior page http://www.experiencecintascenter.com/seat-locations/

then select CURRENT AVAILABILITY under SEAT SELECTION. This is scheduled to be updated at 7PM each evening.

It shows some seats as not available right now, 2:00PM, 5/01. Some make sense, like the student section and the upper part of Section 215, which I think is set aside for the visiting team. Not sure about the ones in Sections 101, 106, 108, and 109.


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[94GRAD]

It shows some seats as not available right now, 2:00PM, 5/01. Some make sense, like the student section and the upper part of Section 215, which I think is set aside for the visiting team. Not sure about the ones in Sections 101, 106, 108, and 109.


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Those are held back by the Athletic Dept for Parents/Players/Family/Recruits

[GetUp5]

Those are held back by the Athletic Dept for Parents/Players/Family/Recruits

Yep. Especially looking at the spots blocked off. Those are definitely where those types of people have been sitting for years.

[XUOWNSUC]

The map has been updated. I'm kind of surprised about how much has been taken already.

[Muskie]

The map has been updated. I'm kind of surprised about how much has been taken already.

That's crazy. I now do have a fear that I'm going to have worse seats.


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[X-man]

That's crazy. I now do have a fear that I'm going to have worse seats.


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I already have lost my seats...on the first damn day! Thanks, Xavier Athletics.

[Muskie]

I already have lost my seats...on the first damn day! Thanks, Xavier Athletics.

When do you pick?


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[94GRAD]

Don't forget that most of the people picking this early probably had a bunch of tickets to begin with. I'm not concerned yet(emphasis on yet!).

[XUOWNSUC]

That's crazy. I now do have a fear that I'm going to have worse seats.


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Mine are still available - but barely. I too think I will end up with worse seats. I wonder how many people are buying more tickets than they had last year. You know for themselves (i.e. their buddies).

[Muskie]

Mine are still available - but barely. I too think I will end up with worse seats. I wonder how many people are buying more tickets than they had last year. You know for themselves (I.e. Their buddies).

I suspect some of that is going on. But I can't blame those people for getting in on it. I had some options but didn't pull the trigger because I thought I would be fine. Clearly I made a mistake.


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[bjf123]

That's crazy. I now do have a fear that I'm going to have worse seats.


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Me, too. I don't pick until the 15th. How much worse will determine if I renew. I'm not paying that much to sit in seats I don't like.


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[Muskie]

Me, too. I don't pick until the 15th. How much worse will determine if I renew. I'm not paying that much to sit in seats I don't like.


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I'm not till the 18th.


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[XUOWNSUC]

I think the rule is that every season ticket holder can buy up to 4 seats. If you already had more than four seats last year, you can buy up to that number.

My problem is that our youngest is going to need a ticket soon. We have four kids. We have 5 tickets currently and can only get five tickets. So no matter what, our family of six will have to be split up. Our oldest is only 12. I have no idea what we are going to do. They won't let us get a sixth ticket until after the selection process. I get why they are doing it but it sucks that we won't be able to sit as a family. It's not like we are buying them for friends like a lot of other people are.

[bigdiggins]

I'm not until the 26th. I thought I may be okay being in the second deck, but there is a lot gone after 1 day.

[94GRAD]

Remember, only 7k of the 10.5k seats are season ticket holders.

[chico]

That's a little scary seeing as they only have 70 people scheduled for each day. The other thing that worries me is that the map is not accurate because I know for certain where a friend picked his tickets and they're not showing up on the seating chart as taken.

[X-man]

When do you pick?


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Not until the 16th. I'm screwed.

[Frambo]

I'm not until the 26th. I thought I may be okay being in the second deck, but there is a lot gone after 1 day.

my day too....not liking this at all

[bjf123]

That's a little scary seeing as they only have 70 people scheduled for each day. The other thing that worries me is that the map is not accurate because I know for certain where a friend picked his tickets and they're not showing up on the seating chart as taken.

If that's true, I'd have your friend contact the ticket office to make sure he really has the tickets he thinks.


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[cheeba]

I attended a session over the summer regarding the re-seating of Cintas. I am confident the staff indicated you cannot leave a single seat open when selecting your tickets. According to the map, section 106 has a lone aisle seat. How does that happen?

[bjf123]

I attended a session over the summer regarding the re-seating of Cintas. I am confident the staff indicated you cannot leave a single seat open when selecting your tickets. According to the map, section 106 has a lone aisle seat. How does that happen?

Yep. I remember the same thing. I think it was also somewhere in the paperwork I received. While that makes sense, it's also not practical when you have rows with an odd number of seats. It's probably safe to say that the majority of season ticket holders have two seats so there are bound to be isolated seats here or there.


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[Denver Muskie]

I think the rule is that every season ticket holder can buy up to 4 seats. If you already had more than four seats last year, you can buy up to that number.

My problem is that our youngest is going to need a ticket soon. We have four kids. We have 5 tickets currently and can only get five tickets. So no matter what, our family of six will have to be split up. Our oldest is only 12. I have no idea what we are going to do. They won't let us get a sixth ticket until after the selection process. I get why they are doing it but it sucks that we won't be able to sit as a family. It's not like we are buying them for friends like a lot of other people are.

Are you saying someone with less than 4 in past years can add seats up to a max of 4 before others select?

[kmcrawfo]

I think the rule is that every season ticket holder can buy up to 4 seats. If you already had more than four seats last year, you can buy up to that number.

My problem is that our youngest is going to need a ticket soon. We have four kids. We have 5 tickets currently and can only get five tickets. So no matter what, our family of six will have to be split up. Our oldest is only 12. I have no idea what we are going to do. They won't let us get a sixth ticket until after the selection process. I get why they are doing it but it sucks that we won't be able to sit as a family. It's not like we are buying them for friends like a lot of other people are.

You should be able to buy up to 10 seats per account. The 4 seat limit only applies to courtside seats and the living room seats. For instance today I picked up 8 seats split between the courtside and first row in the lower bowl directly behind/next to us to allow my family (wife, kids, grandparents, etc) to all sit close to each other.

So, you wanting 5 seats together should be no issue as long as you aren't wanting 5 courtside or 5 living room seats.

[WCWIII]

I attended a session over the summer regarding the re-seating of Cintas. I am confident the staff indicated you cannot leave a single seat open when selecting your tickets. According to the map, section 106 has a lone aisle seat. How does that happen?

The single seat in 106 was like that the day before the selection process opened. The other seats selected nearby are likely coaches families or other athletic allocated seats.

[XUOWNSUC]

You should be able to buy up to 10 seats per account. The 4 seat limit only applies to courtside seats and the living room seats. For instance today I picked up 8 seats split between the courtside and first row in the lower bowl directly behind/next to us to allow my family (wife, kids, grandparents, etc) to all sit close to each other.

So, you wanting 5 seats together should be no issue as long as you aren't wanting 5 courtside or 5 living room seats.

That's not what I was told. I called the ticket office a week ago and they told me exactly what I wrote in this thread.

Maybe you are in a "special" category of ticket holders that have different rules? I don't know.

[XUOWNSUC]

Are you saying someone with less than 4 in past years can add seats up to a max of 4 before others select?

Yes. I know this for a fact. My dad only had 2 seats last year and he can get up to 4 this year. In other words, he can get two extra.

I had 5 last year and can only get 5 this year. I can't pick up a sixth until after the selection process. That's what they told me over the phone. So it sucks that my wife and I will have to split up (each take a couple of kids) and won't be able to sit together.

[X-man]

You should be able to buy up to 10 seats per account. The 4 seat limit only applies to courtside seats and the living room seats. For instance today I picked up 8 seats split between the courtside and first row in the lower bowl directly behind/next to us to allow my family (wife, kids, grandparents, etc) to all sit close to each other.

So, you wanting 5 seats together should be no issue as long as you aren't wanting 5 courtside or 5 living room seats.
Not true. I had a meeting with the guy overseeing the reseating process, and I was told specifically that I could purchase up to a maximum of 4 seats. I am in Section 104.

[bleedXblue]

Not true. I had a meeting with the guy overseeing the reseating process, and I was told specifically that I could purchase up to a maximum of 4 seats. I am in Section 104.

You can "group" seats together with other season tickets holders but your selection date would be determined by the person that has the latest selection date (the lowest amount of AFO point total).

[paulxu]

Keeping the courtside seats for sure. I have 8 others though and trying to decide what is best family, friends, employees, or folks I give tickets to to enjoy the game.

Thought about getting the first row right behind some courtside seats so my family or friends can sit back to back vs. Getting 8 of the living room seats side by side and having my own mini suite, but then separated from my family when I b am on court. Really not sure what is best.

What would others do? Would people rather sit in a living room suite with free, unlimited food and drinks and tons of space or in the first row of the front line.


I'll be sitting in the (my) living room with free, unlimited food and drinks.
Take the floor seats, put friends and family right behind you. They'll enjoy the close action. It's only a couple hours.
Then they'll be back home with the rest of us watching in the (their) living rooms.


For instance today I picked up 8 seats split between the courtside and first row in the lower bowl directly behind/next to us to allow my family (wife, kids, grandparents, etc) to all sit close to each other.

Well played. BTW, you gave me the wrong password.

Also, this seems like a very complicated process for renewing season tickets.

[Muskie]

You can "group" seats together with other season tickets holders but your selection date would be determined by the person that has the latest selection date (the lowest amount of AFO point total). Theoretically that's how it works.

[Muskie]

Are you saying someone with less than 4 in past years can add seats up to a max of 4 before others select? I have two seats and can purchase 4. So this appears to be correct.

[gladdenguy]

That's a little scary seeing as they only have 70 people scheduled for each day. The other thing that worries me is that the map is not accurate because I know for certain where a friend picked his tickets and they're not showing up on the seating chart as taken.

Question for you Chico. I don't know if you know the answer or not......hopefully someone on this board has the information.

Does Xavier have 70 people scheduled to select EVERY WEEKDAY??? Or is it 2 or 3 days a week?

Also for everyone. Who is scheduled for the rest of this week and next week? What are your selection days?

[Masterofreality]

Question for you Chico. I don't know if you know the answer or not......hopefully someone on this board has the information.

Does Xavier have 70 people scheduled to select EVERY WEEKDAY??? Or is it 2 or 3 days a week?

Also for everyone. Who is scheduled for the rest of this week and next week? What are your selection days?

I have next Wednesday at 11:48 am start window.

[X-man]

Question for you Chico. I don't know if you know the answer or not......hopefully someone on this board has the information.

Does Xavier have 70 people scheduled to select EVERY WEEKDAY??? Or is it 2 or 3 days a week?

Also for everyone. Who is scheduled for the rest of this week and next week? What are your selection days?

I am selecting early on May 16. My selection number is 913. If 70 selection ns are made per day, that means 13 days of selection before they get to me. So I am guessing they are doing 6 days a week (M-S).

[gladdenguy]

I am selecting early on May 16. My selection number is 913. If 70 selection ns are made per day, that means 13 days of selection before they get to me. So I am guessing they are doing 6 days a week (M-S).

So if 840 people selecting do indeed take the 4 seats that would be a maximum of 3,360 more seats that are gone by the end of May 15th.
At least 1,680 seats would be gone by the end of May 15th.

Thanks for the info X-Man.

Gives me a better perspective.

[X-man]

Wow. This sucks. So if 840 people selecting do indeed take the 4 seats that would be a maximum of 3,360 more seats that are gone by the end of May 15th.
At least 1,680 seats would be gone by the end of May 15th.

Athletics assumes that the average number of seats taken per selectee is 2.5 seats. Hopefully they are right. Under that scenario, about 2500 seats will be gone when my number comes up.

[gladdenguy]

Athletics assumes that the average number of seats taken per selectee is 2.5 seats. Hopefully they are right. Under that scenario, about 2500 seats will be gone when my number comes up.

I have taken off my "this sucks". It doesn't suck too bad. We select on the 15th so I'm right around you.

[Denver Muskie]

Yes. I know this for a fact. My dad only had 2 seats last year and he can get up to 4 this year. In other words, he can get two extra.

I had 5 last year and can only get 5 this year. I can't pick up a sixth until after the selection process. That's what they told me over the phone. So it sucks that my wife and I will have to split up (each take a couple of kids) and won't be able to sit together.
That's ridiculous. People shouldn't be able to add seats to their account before all prior season ticket holders have selected.

[xeus]

That's ridiculous. People shouldn't be able to add seats to their account before all prior season ticket holders have selected.

It might not be fair, but it's not ridiculous, at least not from a development perspective.

[bjf123]

I have taken off my "this sucks". It doesn't suck too bad. We select on the 15th so I'm right around you.

I'm also on the 15th and will be holding my breath until I either pick my seats or see them taken by someone else before then.


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[SIGNMAN]

I'm also on the 15th and will be holding my breath until I either pick my seats or see them taken by someone else before then.


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New to this site. longtime Muskie supporter and 84' grad . Picking on the 5th. Thought I would be in good shape with a large number of points and a rank of 350 worried I am not going to get close to my longtime seats. Dont think it is fair to allow more tickets than previously purchased just allows people who have never supported X to piggy back on a buddy's points, but oh well its always about the money and not about loyalty. I will check back and let you know how I fare.

[XU 87]

I just picked. My seats I have had at Cintas since it opened were gone. This sucks.

Bottom line, and as noted above, the very top donors were allowed to buy additional seats, which allowed others to piggy back off them. Is that fair? I don't know. If I were a top donor, I would have done the same thing. The question is- should the university have allowed this?

On the one hand, you should reward your top donors. On the other, people who haven't donated as much get to move to the head of the class.

[94GRAD]

I just picked. My seats I have had at Cintas since it opened were gone. This sucks.

Bottom line, and as noted above, the very top donors were allowed to buy additional seats, which allowed others to piggy back off them. Is that fair? I don't know. If I were a top donor, I would have done the same thing. The question is- should the university have allowed this?

On the one hand, you should reward your top donors. On the other, people who haven't donated as much get to move to the head of the class.

How close are you to your seats? Or did you just move to the best available?

[xeus]

Very little about this whole process has been fair.

[XU 87]

How close are you to your seats? Or did you just move to the best available?

Best available. I'm now on the other side of the arena, although I got similarly located seats as far as the general vicinity near the floor.

[chico]

Question for you Chico. I don't know if you know the answer or not......hopefully someone on this board has the information.

Does Xavier have 70 people scheduled to select EVERY WEEKDAY??? Or is it 2 or 3 days a week?

Also for everyone. Who is scheduled for the rest of this week and next week? What are your selection days?

I'm thinking it's Monday-Friday but it may be on Saturday as well, though I don't think anyone on here has said they're picking on Saturday. I'm Friday afternoon with a number in the mid-300's. Was down with the people I sit with yesterday and that's where I got the 70/day number, which fits with my time and number.

[chico]

Best available. I'm now on the other side of the arena, although I got similarly located seats as far as the general vicinity near the floor.

Welcome to the other side - that is if I'm still there as well come Friday. And if I'm still in my old seats I'll be yelling "down in front" an awful lot next year.

[Tardy Turtle]

I just picked. My seats I have had at Cintas since it opened were gone. This sucks.

I am angered by this.

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[XU 87]

Welcome to the other side - that is if I'm still there as well come Friday. And if I'm still in my old seats I'll be yelling "down in front" an awful lot next year.

If you're near us, you can join in the group hugs.

[bleedXblue]

It is going to be a very long, long month. I'm in a group with about 12-14 people that doesn't pick until June 1st. I have a feeling we are going to be screwed.

[XU 87]

It is going to be a very long, long month. I'm in a group with about 12-14 people that doesn't pick until June 1st. I have a feeling we are going to be screwed.

Based on what I saw earlier today, I think it is very unlikely that most people will have their same seats. There is going to be a domino effect.

There wasn't anything available in my section except for the last two or three rows. It's just not a good way to treat alumni and season ticket holders.

I'm just wondering if a lawsuit will be filed over this by someone who signed a contract which guaranteed them the same seats until about 2020.

[paulxu]

Do you think that season ticket holders who could add numbers to their purchase (had 4 seats, renewed them, and got 4 friends to add on for 8 seats together) are bringing in new people to the total?

Or, friends they had higher up who are now able to move down?

[XU 87]

Do you think that season ticket holders who could add numbers to their purchase (had 4 seats, renewed them, and got 4 friends to add on for 8 seats together) are bringing in new people to the total?

Or, friends they had higher up who are now able to move down?

I think it's your second paragraph.

[bleedXblue]

I think it's your second paragraph.

True, but those tickets that were $200.00 each for the whole year are now easily well over $1,000.00 per year.....if you're in the lower bowl.

Steep price increase....but I am sure some of that is happening.

[Muskie]

In another hour we will see what happened today


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[XUOWNSUC]

In another hour we will see what happened today


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It's updated now.

[XU 87]

True, but those tickets that were $200.00 each for the whole year are now easily well over $1,000.00 per year.....if you're in the lower bowl.

Steep price increase....but I am sure some of that is happening.

Based on the seats that were taken when it was my turn to pick, I think that is what's happening. There were a lot of seats taken by noon today. In my old section, there were about two rows left (the last two rows). The closest I could get to my old seats was the next section over and on the other end of the row.

[chico]

Yes. I know this for a fact. My dad only had 2 seats last year and he can get up to 4 this year. In other words, he can get two extra.

I had 5 last year and can only get 5 this year. I can't pick up a sixth until after the selection process. That's what they told me over the phone. So it sucks that my wife and I will have to split up (each take a couple of kids) and won't be able to sit together.

This is one of the problems with the whole process. If you have 2 tickets you can add 2 more, but if you have more than 4 you're precluded from adding any. I now they want to keep piggybacking to a minimum (at least that's the company line) but they are in effect penalizing those who have purchased more tickets in the past.

[bjf123]

It's updated now.

Maybe my mind is going (just ask my wife), but the number of seats taken today seems to be less than yesterday.


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[deepX]

[QUOTE=bjf123;591792]Maybe my mind is going (just ask my wife), but the number of seats taken today seems to be less than yesterday.

I agree the first day seats taken looked higher. It makes sense that people (and companies) that already had a higher than average number of seats would have had a lot of points from prior year seat gifts and would therefor be selecting very early in this process and taking a lot of seats on the first day.
Also interesting that not many Overlook and Joseph Club living room seats have been taken by those with the highest points and presumably the most money to spend on those expensive seats. Looks like they are going for the best seats to watch the game rather than those with the most included food and drinks.

deepX

[XUOWNSUC]

I agree. I think they overestimated the demand for the Overlook and Joseph living room seats. They don't appear to be selling well.

[bjf123]

I agree. I think they overestimated the demand for the Overlook and Joseph living room seats. They don't appear to be selling well.

I thought the Overlook was over priced for something brand new.


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[THill42]

I agree. I think they overestimated the demand for the Overlook and Joseph living room seats. They don't appear to be selling well.

Picked mine today and it seemed like the rep was really pushing the Overlook. Led me to assume it wasn't selling well.

[XU 87]

Maybe my mind is going (just ask my wife), but the number of seats taken today seems to be less than yesterday.


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I suspect that is because everyone who picked yesterday and some of the people this morning could buy more than the amount of their season tickets.

[XUMIOH12]

I agree. I think they overestimated the demand for the Overlook and Joseph living room seats. They don't appear to be selling well.

Eh well it's only been two days, so who knows. But, I think it would do better if it wasn't an inclusive area, because that pumped the price way up for those seats. Otherwise it probably could have been kind of a mid-level price tier between the upper and lower levels.

[XUMIOH12]

I thought the Overlook was over priced for something brand new.


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Don't know for sure, but seems kind of like it is supposed to be like club seats at the Reds. It's new, maybe they just need to do a better job of informing people about it, because its probably a great place to actually watch the game.

[chico]

I suspect that is because everyone who picked yesterday and some of the people this morning could buy more than the amount of their season tickets.

Only if you had less than 4 tickets. If you had 4 (or more) tickets you could not buy additional seats.

[bjf123]

I suspect that is because everyone who picked yesterday and some of the people this morning could buy more than the amount of their season tickets.

Yep. Was just talking to a friend of mine who picks later this week. His seats from last year are already gone. A friend of his who picks today currently has two seats, but is going to take four so they can sit together. When my friend is on the clock later this week, he's not going buy anything in his name. There's probably a lot of that going on, so activity could slow down as this progresses.

It will cost him a tax deduction this year since he won't be paying anything to X. Guess he could always reimburse his friend a little less since the friend will get a bigger tax deduction.


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[Muskie]

Eh well it's only been two days, so who knows. But, I think it would do better if it wasn't an inclusive area, because that pumped the price way up for those seats. Otherwise it probably could have been kind of a mid-level price tier between the upper and lower levels.
I was interested in it up to a certain price point (as I try to attend the pre-game at Duff's). But I think you're right. I would have rather they expanded the Joseph Club for capacity. But this living room stuff is in vogue.

I was talking to Xeus the other night. As Cintas evolves (and it will continue) I think we can look forward to another round of this at some point (10-15 down the line).

[xucub]

Last uodate of seat availabilty was at 3:18 yesterday.....anybody know why they did not do a 7:00 update? Pretty sure my seats are as good as gone.

Fr. Hoff is probably turning over in his grave as he sees this fiasco.

[cheeba]

I believe that time is referenced in Pacific Time.

Not a fan of this at all. When does the seat selection wrap up, when is the last day?

[STL_XUfan]

Fr. Hoff is probably turning over in his grave as he sees this fiasco.

If this is all it takes to get him to turn over in his grave, someone should check his coffin to make sure he hasn't corkscrewed his way out of it.

[GrimeTime]

Not a fan of this at all. When does the seat selection wrap up, when is the last day?

I know it goes at least through May 22nd! That's my day to sort through the scraps to see if there are 5 seats together anywhere.

[Muskie]

I know it goes at least through May 22nd! That's my day to sort through the scraps to see if there are 5 seats together anywhere. I believe it goes till sometime in June.

[bleedXblue]

Yeah my group goes June 1st....and all of us have been season ticket holders for 10+ years.....

Most with kids in school/college so we are not big AFO donors.....

We sit in the upper section, about 10 rows up......hope we can stay somewhat close to where we are

[Muskie]

Yeah my group goes June 1st....and all of us have been season ticket holders for 10+ years.....

Most with kids in school/college so we are not big AFO donors.....

We sit in the upper section, about 10 rows up......hope we can stay somewhat close to where we are

I imagine you'll be able to retain something similar to that.

[X-man]

I have been a season ticketholder since 1990, paying for tickets I could get for free (as a faculty member) because I wanted to support Xavier and its athletics programs. I will not be able to buy my seats in Section104, as of Day 3 in the reseating program. Lovely way to reward long-time supporters, substituting commitment and bonds with LT supporters for a money grab. Don't think at this point that I will be renewing. Might as well just get the free seats.

[bjf123]

Talking with a coworker who renewed today, he said the ticket office said that the first day, the average purchase was 6 seats. Day 2 was 4 and day 3 was a little less than 4. They expect that to keep dropping until it's averaging close to 2. There were also a handful who didn't renew on day 3.


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[Olsingledigit]

I have been a season ticketholder since 1990, paying for tickets I could get for free (as a faculty member) because I wanted to support Xavier and its athletics programs. I will not be able to buy my seats in Section104, as of Day 3 in the reseating program. Lovely way to reward long-time supporters, substituting commitment and bonds with LT supporters for a money grab. Don't think at this point that I will be renewing. Might as well just get the free seats.

In fairness, every major university does this now. Most have done it for years and years. Indiana University changes locations every year for some fans. So we are pretty lucky to have had our seats for this long without having to re-select. Fortunately for our group we were able to get seats just three rows higher than the ones we gave up. So we are in Sec 107 on the aisle behind the Xavier bench.

It's all about the money, that is true, and "what have you done for me lately".

[bjf123]

In fairness, every major university does this now. Most have done it for years and years. Indiana University changes locations every year for some fans. So we are pretty lucky to have had our seats for this long without having to re-select. Fortunately for our group we were able to get seats just three rows higher than the ones we gave up. So we are in Sec 107 on the aisle behind the Xavier bench.

It's all about the money, that is true, and "what have you done for me lately".

Mine are still open, but the seats around them are starting to go. I'm afraid they'll be gone tomorrow or Monday.


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[94GRAD]

Talking with a coworker who renewed today, he said the ticket office said that the first day, the average purchase was 6 seats. Day 2 was 4 and day 3 was a little less than 4. They expect that to keep dropping until it's averaging close to 2. There were also a handful who didn't renew on day 3.


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Is your co-worker's name Bill, Dave, or Mike?

[bjf123]

Is your co-worker's name Bill, Dave, or Mike?

Nope! Guess again.


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[94GRAD]

Trying to figure out who else I told that to today.

[94GRAD]

Nope! Guess again.


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Eric or Jim?

[Section 200]

It's odd to see 2 seats taken in Section 200 about 5 rows up. Wonder why those were selected so early?

[XMuskieFTW]

It's odd to see 2 seats taken in Section 200 about 5 rows up. Wonder why those were selected so early?

Section 200 talking about section 200 as his 200th post. Illuminati.

[bjf123]

Eric or Jim?

Then you must be Patrick?


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[xucub]

FWIW....I just selected my seats. I am in the Orange section (not sure of the exact name) but i was able to get my old seats back, so maybe things are starting to settle down a bit? I am pleased.....good luck to the rest of you alll.

[Muskie]

And on the first Friday of this extravaganza (I pick on May 18) my seats are gone.


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[XUOWNSUC]

Anybody know how parking passes will be done? Will it be based on seat location? Musketeer Points? I couldn't find much about it on the website.

[Muskie]

Numbered passes (near Cintas) or the other lots?


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[bjf123]

And my seats are gone, too. I don't pick until a week from Monday. Guess there's a chance I'll be skipping next year.

I think parking is a combination of seat level and Musketeer Points.


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[XUOWNSUC]

Numbered passes (near Cintas) or the other lots?


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Numbered

[Olsingledigit]

And my seats are gone, too. I don't pick until a week from Monday. Guess there's a chance I'll be skipping next year.

I think parking is a combination of seat level and Musketeer Points
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My understanding is parking is only points

[DART87]

Anybody know how parking passes will be done? Will it be based on seat location? Musketeer Points? I couldn't find much about it on the website.

Parking will be based on All for One points only. You earn this year's parking based on last year's giving level. Your parking for next season is based on your giving level last year. They sent out letters a month or two ago specifying your level and parking "benefit."

http://www.goxavier.com/documents/2016/9/23/BenefitsChart.pdf (http://www.goxavier.com/documents/2016/9/23/BenefitsChart.pdf)

[kmcrawfo]

And on the first Friday of this extravaganza (I pick on May 18) my seats are gone.


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come sit with my family and I in our lower bowl seats... I think we are close to where you were before and there are still six seats left in that row... You should pick up a couple.

[94GRAD]

Numbered

And I'm pretty sure they are moving away from numbered spots. It will be first come/first serve in the area your pass is good for'

[XUOWNSUC]

Parking will be based on All for One points only. You earn this year's parking based on last year's giving level. Your parking for next season is based on your giving level last year. They sent out letters a month or two ago specifying your level and parking "benefit."

http://www.goxavier.com/documents/2016/9/23/BenefitsChart.pdf (http://www.goxavier.com/documents/2016/9/23/BenefitsChart.pdf)

Thanks!

[XUOWNSUC]

And I'm pretty sure they are moving away from numbered spots. It will be first come/first serve in the area your pass is good for'

I actually think that isn't a bad idea. There are at least 4 to 5 games each year that my numbered spot is taken by someone with a different number on their parking pass.

[paulxu]

come sit with my family and I in our lower bowl seats... I think we are close to where you were before and there are still six seats left in that row... You should pick up a couple.

Do it DB. Do it!

(I'll kick in for a game when I make the trip. Maybe you could start a group of us out-of-towners who would share a seat)

[bjf123]

Parking will be based on All for One points only. You earn this year's parking based on last year's giving level. Your parking for next season is based on your giving level last year. They sent out letters a month or two ago specifying your level and parking "benefit."

http://www.goxavier.com/documents/2016/9/23/BenefitsChart.pdf (http://www.goxavier.com/documents/2016/9/23/BenefitsChart.pdf)

I don't remember getting that. I've been concerned about parking, so I think I would have remembered and kept that letter with my other Xavier ticket info. Also, I guess I'll need to change my "location" that appears under my avatar, now that my seats are gone. #$%&!

[Muskie]

I don't remember getting that. I've been concerned about parking, so I think I would have remembered and kept that letter with my other Xavier ticket info. Also, I guess I'll need to change my "location" that appears under my avatar, now that my seats are gone. #$%&!

Just let me know and I can flip it for you.


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[Olsingledigit]

I actually think that isn't a bad idea. There are at least 4 to 5 games each year that my numbered spot is taken by someone with a different number on their parking pass.

That is correct. You will have a lot designation and first come first served on the spot.

[94GRAD]

I could have picked seats Thursday at 830am but waited til this morning to pick so that our group of 14 would have a better chance of staying together. I got my exact seats and unless something strange happens, the rest of our crew will get theirs. We were VERY tempted to move to the Overlook because of the 2 drink tickets and food, but decided to stay where we are. We figured the food/drinks had a minimum value of around $360($20 per game).

[paulxu]

I got my exact seats

Does that mean the same seats as you had last year?

Also, going to go out on a limb here, and say that you probably know some place where you can get free food and drink.

[XUOWNSUC]

I could have picked seats Thursday at 830am but waited til this morning to pick so that our group of 14 would have a better chance of staying together. I got my exact seats and unless something strange happens, the rest of our crew will get theirs. We were VERY tempted to move to the Overlook because of the 2 drink tickets and food, but decided to stay where we are. We figured the food/drinks had a minimum value of around $360($20 per game).

Just curious - what section did you pick?

[94GRAD]

Just curious - what section did you pick?

111- Greenline seats

[94GRAD]

Does that mean the same seats as you had last year?

Also, going to go out on a limb here, and say that you probably know some place where you can get free food and drink.

Yup, the same seats as I've had for the last 15 years. And it's not the same when you're getting something free from someone else as opposed from yourself.

[SM#24]

Free ?

[94GRAD]

Free ?

The Overlook seats include 2 drink tickets and a buffet with your donation. So not free.

[paulxu]

Yup, the same seats as I've had for the last 15 years. And it's not the same when you're getting something free from someone else as opposed from yourself.

True.

[bjf123]

Well, there are only four seats left in my 1st choice area and 10 left in my second choice. All of them are many rows farther from the court than I was last year. There are 280+ slots before I pick next Monday. I'm not liking my odds.


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[Muskie]

Well, there are only four seats left in my 1st choice area and 10 left in my second choice. All of them are many rows farther from the court than I was last year. There are 280+ slots before I pick next Monday. I'm not liking my odds.


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[Muskie]

Well, there are only four seats left in my 1st choice area and 10 left in my second choice. All of them are many rows farther from the court than I was last year. There are 280+ slots before I pick next Monday. I'm not liking my odds.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Where do I see a count for each section. I may be paranoid at this point, but could I possibly be frozen out of the lower bowl?

[94GRAD]

Where do I see a count for each section. I may be paranoid at this point, but could I possibly be frozen out of the lower bowl?

http://www.experiencecintascenter.com/current-availability/

[94GRAD]

Well, there are only four seats left in my 1st choice area and 10 left in my second choice. All of them are many rows farther from the court than I was last year. There are 280+ slots before I pick next Monday. I'm not liking my odds.


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How long have you had your seats?

[Muskie]

How long have you had your seats?
I've been a season ticket holder since 2000. But didn't move into seats that had a donation until 2007.

[X-man]

I've been a season ticket holder since 2000. But didn't move into seats that had a donation until 2007.

I have been a donor and season ticketholder since 1990, and I don't pick until a week from today. Loyalty means nothing to our Athletics Department. It's all about the money pure and simple. I understand the importance of the financial side, but loyalty is a 2-way street.

[bjf123]

How long have you had your seats?

Something like 14 or 15 years in total. Maybe 11 or 12 in the current location. Not sure exactly.


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[nuts4xu]

I have been a donor and season ticketholder since 1990, and I don't pick until a week from today.

I believe the point system only goes back to 2000, which kinda sucks for people that have had tickets for long before the Cintas opened.

[Olsingledigit]

I believe the point system only goes back to 2000, which kinda sucks for people that have had tickets for long before the Cintas opened.

While the system started as a lead up to picking seats for the Cintas, I believe, credit (I.e. Points) were/are awarded one time (= to ten points) for season ticket holders prior to 2000.

[Olsingledigit]

I believe the point system only goes back to 2000, which kinda sucks for people that have had tickets for long before the Cintas opened.

To a point you are right. It is about the money, but loyalty counts to some degree. If you are a heavy donor and you could not get better seats because a not so heavy donor has them whom do you think they will take care of? The heavy hitters expect good seats and they will carry the day in the long run. FYI I have been a season ticket holder since 1983-84, and have had club seats since the Cintas opened. So my points and those of our group were high enough to let us pick the seats we wanted.

[muskienick]

I have been a donor and season ticketholder since 1990, and I don't pick until a week from today. Loyalty means nothing to our Athletics Department. It's all about the money pure and simple. I understand the importance of the financial side, but loyalty is a 2-way street.

I beg to differ with your assessment. I believe that loyalty means EVERYTHING to the University during this selection process. The fact that YOU are loyal (and I do not doubt that at all!) is not the point. The point is that there are some folks who, by the standards set to define "Loyalty," are even MORE loyal than you are. I have no idea how many people are scheduled to pick each day. My pick time began at 11:39 a.m. on May 2. I've been a season ticket holder since the ugly days of the late sixties and George Krajack followed by the even uglier days of Dick Campbell and a half-hearted Tay Baker. I do not believe I was credited for at least some of those years of season tickets at Schmidt Fieldhouse. But I was also there to see everything changing when Bob Staak took over and began the consistent beating of the UC Bearcats through better recruiting and a real commitment to the basketball program as evidenced by our eventual move to the MCC, Cincinnati Gardens the A-10 and finally a move back to campus and the sparkling new sense of pride, the Cintas Center, all culminating in our membership in the Big East. I am only one of perhaps 100 such people who braved it through parts of six decades as season ticket-holders and who are still excited about Muskie basketball.

I salute you, X-MAN, for your loyalty to the Muskies. But I hope you will always understand that a bunch of other folks blazed the trail for you. Now we can do it together!

[paulxu]

Nick,
Been through that time with you.
Unfortunately far away, so long time ago for season tickets.
Still my Muskies.
(since I'm remembering those days, were you in the Gardens when we snapped the 12 game streak against the bear kittens?)

[bjf123]

I beg to differ with your assessment. I believe that loyalty means EVERYTHING to the University during this selection process. The fact that YOU are loyal (and I do not doubt that at all!) is not the point. The point is that there are some folks who, by the standards set to define "Loyalty," are even MORE loyal than you are. I have no idea how many people are scheduled to pick each day.

Loyalty might mean everything, but money means more. Someone could have been a season ticket holder since the 60s with club seats now, but if someone else came in this year who had never been to a game, but donated a shitload of money, they could move ahead of the loyal, 50 year season ticket holder.

I believe 70 people pick each day. That probably works out to just under 200 tickets a day, assuming most are taking two, with a few talking three or more.


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[muskienick]

Nick,
Been through that time with you.
Unfortunately far away, so long time ago for season tickets.
Still my Muskies.
(since I'm remembering those days, were you in the Gardens when we snapped the 12 game streak against the bear kittens?)

You bet I was! I don't remember ever missing a game we played in the Gardens! But since each was more than 5 seconds ago, I don't recall many specifics of games other than Lenny Brown's shot to evoke Andy Mac's historical remark, the non-handshake after a UC qame, the breakaway by Kevin Frey, and the remarkable give-and-take of the Loyola Marymount game with Hank Gathers and Bo Kimble.

[XUOWNSUC]

You bet I was! I don't remember ever missing a game we played in the Gardens! But since each was more than 5 seconds ago, I don't recall many specifics of games other than Lenny Brown's shot to evoke Andy Mac's historical remark.

What was it like to be at the Gardens for that game?

[deepX]

What was it like to be at the Gardens for that game?

I would think, a bit lonely!

[X-man]

You bet I was! I don't remember ever missing a game we played in the Gardens! But since each was more than 5 seconds ago, I don't recall many specifics of games other than Lenny Brown's shot to evoke Andy Mac's historical remark, the non-handshake after a UC qame, the breakaway by Kevin Frey, and the remarkable give-and-take of the Loyola Marymount game with Hank Gathers and Bo Kimble.

How about the NIT quarter final game against Princeton? Or the double OT game against #1 UMass in our first season in the A10? The Gardens hosted many many memorable Muskie moments for us long-time fans. On some level, as much as I like the Cintas, I miss those "Garden nights".

[94GRAD]

You bet I was! I don't remember ever missing a game we played in the Gardens! But since each was more than 5 seconds ago, I don't recall many specifics of games other than Lenny Brown's shot to evoke Andy Mac's historical remark, the non-handshake after a UC qame, the breakaway by Kevin Frey, and the remarkable give-and-take of the Loyola Marymount game with Hank Gathers and Bo Kimble.


What was it like to be at the Gardens for that game?


The Lenny Brown game was at The Shoe.

[XUOWNSUC]

The Lenny Brown game was at The Shoe.

I know.

[paulxu]

Some of the better shootouts.

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/college/university-of-cincinnati/2015/02/13/shock-awe-and-brawls-rating-the-uc-xu-shootouts/23348699/

[Masterofreality]

Done!!
Selected. Same seats in the same great location. Happy as a Musketeer at the NCAA Tournament!
Go X!!

[muskienick]

My remembrances were ones that stuck out among all the others whether I saw them at the Gardens or elsewhere. I could really go back far and say how happy I felt as a 14 year-older and watching the Finals of the 1958 NIT or the time my Dad took me to Oxford, Ohio to watch the Muskies come from behind to beat the Redskins after a somewhat uninspiring first half when running back Bob Konkoly and his leading blockers made mincemeat of the Miami defense. I even remember feeling good about the prospects of Xavier football following the 1973 season when the Muskies ended the season by going 5-2-1 in their last 9 games under Head Coach Tom Cecchini. But, in retrospect, dropping football was the best thing for Xavier since it gave the Muskies the opportunity to concentrate on basketball, eventually leading to how far we have come to this point.

But I am old!

[bjf123]

Done!!
Selected. Same seats in the same great location. Happy as a Musketeer at the NCAA Tournament!
Go X!!

Congrats!


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[94GRAD]

The last of our group of 12 picked today, everyone got their exact same seats in section 111.

[bjf123]

The last of our group of 12 picked today, everyone got their exact same seats in section 111.

Nice! I'm down to 4 open spots in my second choice and I don't pick until Monday.


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[gladdenguy]

Nice! I'm down to 4 open spots in my second choice and I don't pick until Monday.


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You are like me. Have to get through 2 more days of updates and then I can actually see where I am headed.

[WCWIII]

Nice! I'm down to 4 open spots in my second choice and I don't pick until Monday.


You mentioned above that at some point you switched your seats. Does anyone know how the process will work next year when handfuls of tickets aren't renewed and people might be inclined to search for a better seat? If that worked for you once, it might work again (though it doesn't help this year).

Are your 4 open spots currently 2 rows of 3? It'd be a bummer if you couldn't get 2 seats as you can't leave a single. Just another worry for you.

[bjf123]

No, the 4 open spots have at least 4 contiguous seats, though I only need 2 of them. I'm not sure how the process will work for next year, but I'll be telling them when I do select my seats for this year to put me on the list of people wanting to move.


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[Muskie]

You mentioned above that at some point you switched your seats. Does anyone know how the process will work next year when handfuls of tickets aren't renewed and people might be inclined to search for a better seat? If that worked for you once, it might work again (though it doesn't help this year).

Are your 4 open spots currently 2 rows of 3? It'd be a bummer if you couldn't get 2 seats as you can't leave a single. Just another worry for you. My guess is that it will revert to the system that has been in place. Every year when you go to renew you can either renew your current seats or switch to an open seat.

[bjf123]

Has anyone here sat in Sections 113 or 114? I'm wondering how loud it might be in front of the student section, as I'm now down to only 2 possible locations in my current section before I can pick on Monday.


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[xeus]

bjf, are you trying to stay on the aisle in 105, across from 103? Those aisle seats just across in 103 are great also. Better than 113 or 114 in my opinion.

[bjf123]

bjf, are you trying to stay on the aisle in 105, across from 103? Those aisle seats just across in 103 are great also. Better than 113 or 114 in my opinion.

Yes, but I'm only interested in an aisle seat. There are precisely two of those left in 105.


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[xeus]

Yes, but I'm only interested in an aisle seat. There are precisely two of those left in 105.

Ten options in 103 on that same aisle, although four of those are in the orange. The yellow aisle options start around Row N.

[72Muskie]

I just wanted to share my experience with re-seating and say that the folks at Xavier handling this were wonderful during the process.

I have been a season ticket holder since 1985. I and two friends have had seats in Section 108, Row J since the Cintas Center opened. My Musketeer Points (566) put me around the 85th percentile. My selection time was Wednesday, May 10th, at 5:22 PM. Because I had more points than my two friends, we used my selection time. I selected three seats just three rows behind our old seats in Section 108. They put my two friends on the account so that we could each pay Xavier individually and will each get IRS deduction confirmation letters. Our per-ticket and donation total is actually $75 less per person than last year!

Alicia and all those at Xavier were very helpful, courteous and professional with all of our questions and in guiding us through the seat selection process. Bottom line: We are excited to be able to continue to cheer our Muskies from the same vantage point.

Go X!

[GrimeTime]

Looks like we have our first completely full (non-student) section: 110. 108 and 109 are right behind...

[Muskie]

I just wanted to share my experience with re-seating and say that the folks at Xavier handling this were wonderful during the process.

I have been a season ticket holder since 1985. I and two friends have had seats in Section 108, Row J since the Cintas Center opened. My Musketeer Points (566) put me around the 85th percentile. My selection time was Wednesday, May 10th, at 5:22 PM. Because I had more points than my two friends, we used my selection time. I selected three seats just three rows behind our old seats in Section 108. They put my two friends on the account so that we could each pay Xavier individually and will each get IRS deduction confirmation letters. Our per-ticket and donation total is actually $75 less per person than last year!

Alicia and all those at Xavier were very helpful, courteous and professional with all of our questions and in guiding us through the seat selection process. Bottom line: We are excited to be able to continue to cheer our Muskies from the same vantage point.

Go X! I'm happy that it's worked out for you and many others. But the process you just described is why there are many of us being shut out from certain sections.

[SM#24]

Not really. Those getting shut out is a result of people getting more and better seats than they originally had. 72Muskie's group is getting the same number of seats, and actually worse than they had.

[bjf123]

I just wanted to share my experience with re-seating and say that the folks at Xavier handling this were wonderful during the process.

I have been a season ticket holder since 1985. I and two friends have had seats in Section 108, Row J since the Cintas Center opened. My Musketeer Points (566) put me around the 85th percentile. My selection time was Wednesday, May 10th, at 5:22 PM. Because I had more points than my two friends, we used my selection time. I selected three seats just three rows behind our old seats in Section 108. They put my two friends on the account so that we could each pay Xavier individually and will each get IRS deduction confirmation letters. Our per-ticket and donation total is actually $75 less per person than last year!

Alicia and all those at Xavier were very helpful, courteous and professional with all of our questions and in guiding us through the seat selection process. Bottom line: We are excited to be able to continue to cheer our Muskies from the same vantage point.

Go X!

That goes completely against what the school said. If people wanted to sit together, the ONLY way to do it was wait until the person with the LEAST number of points was on the clock. Based on what you said, I could have gotten my tickets last week when a co-worker picked. My seats were still available at that time. If what you said is true, and I have no reason to doubt you, whoever I talk to Monday when I pick is going to get an earful, because I WILL NOT BE IN A GOOD MOOD.


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[Muskie]

Not really. Those getting shut out is a result of people getting more and better seats than they originally had. 72Muskie's group is getting the same number of seats, and actually worse than they had.

Under the system the school described you were to pick based on the lowest person in your group. That's clearly not happening. So, in effect there were people with lower point totals than my family they got to choose a seat. That's not how it was explained at the meetings when the system was announced. I also had the opportunity to piggyback off of someone here early in the process, but for various reasons I didn't pull the trigger. I'm kicking myself for that.


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[bourbonman]

That goes completely against what the school said. If people wanted to sit together, the ONLY way to do it was wait until the person with the LEAST number of points was on the clock. Based on what you said, I could have gotten my tickets last week when a co-worker picked. My seats were still available at that time. If what you said is true, and I have no reason to doubt you, whoever I talk to Monday when I pick is going to get an earful, because I WILL NOT BE IN A GOOD MOOD.


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BFJ, our group had the same understanding as you described. But we could have been added to the account of the first person BUT would have lost parking passes that each of us enjoy. So to keep those passes, we stayed on separate accounts and therefore must select on the date of the person with the latest selection date. Might be the only clarification. But I'm in your camp, NOT in a good mood about this. Not looking like we'll be able to keep our group together since we're still 12 days away. I've been through a process like this before recently and it wasn't this clunky.

[bleedXblue]

BFJ, our group had the same understanding as you described. But we could have been added to the account of the first person BUT would have lost parking passes that each of us enjoy. So to keep those passes, we stayed on separate accounts and therefore must select on the date of the person with the latest selection date. Might be the only clarification. But I'm in your camp, NOT in a good mood about this. Not looking like we'll be able to keep our group together since we're still 12 days away. I've been through a process like this before recently and it wasn't this clunky.

dont feel too bad..IM in a group of about 12 and we pick June 1st.....ouch

[coasterville95]

So the way to cheat the system is to have the person with the MOST points buy all of the seats, and the school is even splitting the check as it were.

That sounds like much better merge option than the forms they sent out advertised. "Least points".

I, with morbid curiosity download each days update and watch the yellow move closer and closer. I'm stil good for now, but 6 more updates until I am on the clock.

Aisle seats are starting to go in 104.

X-Man will probably swipe my seats ;).

[coasterville95]

Hey one silver lining if people are cheating and having a buddy buy their seats for them ahead of time....

Maybe that means there are appointments where ZERO seats are being taken.

[paulxu]

It's a plot by Woody to get everyone re-seated at the bar.

[Muskie]

Hey one silver lining if people are cheating and having a buddy buy their seats for them ahead of time....

Maybe that means there are appointments where ZERO seats are being taken.

Coaster, that's happening in some cases. I hope you have good luck in retaining your seats. Mine are gone, and I'm looking at other options.

[bleedXblue]

So the way to cheat the system is to have the person with the MOST points buy all of the seats, and the school is even splitting the check as it were.

That sounds like much better merge option than the forms they sent out advertised. "Least points".

I, with morbid curiosity download each days update and watch the yellow move closer and closer. I'm stil good for now, but 6 more updates until I am on the clock.

Aisle seats are starting to go in 104.

X-Man will probably swipe my seats ;).

its max 4 seats person season ticket holder though.....

[Muskie]

its max 4 seats person season ticket holder though.....

Yes unless you already had more than 4 seats. Then you can buy up to that amount.

[bleedXblue]

Yes unless you already had more than 4 seats. Then you can buy up to that amount.

yes but again there you really aren't having the issue of "cheating" the system going on

[Muskie]

yes but again there you really aren't having the issue of "cheating" the system going on

Unfortunately that's the not the case. I'm aware of multiple instances where people who previously had two seats, bought 4 and added someone with a lower point total. There have been specific cases where people who had 8 tickets allowed some people to join them because they were able to buy 8.

At the end of the day I'm not mad at the people that did it. I'm frustrated that the practice has cost me my seats. I'm tired of thinking about it and aware my complaints look like sour grapes. But when I put in as much free time for the University as I do (not counting this site), it's terribly frustrating. I promise once I pick seats (if I decide to get them) that I won't complain further. You guys are my venting party.

[bourbonman]

..... I promise once I pick seats (if I decide to get them) that I won't complain further. You guys are my venting party.

Ditto. I just hope I have seats with my group in an area I want to pay to watch. I just hope I'm not going to give up my seats due to poor options left. But someone will come along and replace me. AND I'll forever be supporting X, even if not in person. Go X.

[72Muskie]

So sorry if some think we cheated the system. We didn't! We just used the rules as explained to us. I could select up to four seats. I thought that was explained very clearly in the information Xavier sent. I selected three. And yes, my two friends will not be selecting seats when their turns comes up. Actually I think they are already past now. And yes, we do only get one parking pass!

[Muskie]

So sorry if some think we cheated the system. We didn't! We just used the rules as explained to us. I could select up to four seats. I thought that was explained very clearly in the information Xavier sent. I selected three. And yes, my two friends will not be selecting seats when their turns comes up. Actually I think they are already past now. And yes, we do only get one parking pass!

No worries. I'm glad you were able to renew. I don't think you cheated the system at all. It's just that some of us got very thorough explanations and the information we were given turned out not to be correct. I've got no ill will for those that did it. As I said earlier. It's just been a very frustrating process.

[bleedXblue]

Unfortunately that's the not the case. I'm aware of multiple instances where people who previously had two seats, bought 4 and added someone with a lower point total. There have been specific cases where people who had 8 tickets allowed some people to join them because they were able to buy 8.

At the end of the day I'm not mad at the people that did it. I'm frustrated that the practice has cost me my seats. I'm tired of thinking about it and aware my complaints look like sour grapes. But when I put in as much free time for the University as I do (not counting this site), it's terribly frustrating. I promise once I pick seats (if I decide to get them) that I won't complain further. You guys are my venting party.

I'm not sure I understand the bolded statement.........if you had 8 previously and renewed at that same amount.....how is that impacting anything at all?

[Muskie]

I'm not sure I understand the bolded statement.........if you had 8 previously and renewed at that same amount.....how is that impacting anything at all?

Because the person with 8 doesn't necessarily own those 8 going forward. In the case I know of, owner retained 3 for himself and bought 5 tickets for other people who were allowed to jump several days up in the process (in one case two weeks). Yes, the number of seats is the same, but the ownership of those eight seats is not.

[bjf123]

At the end of the day I'm not mad at the people that did it. I'm frustrated that the practice has cost me my seats. I'm tired of thinking about it and aware my complaints look like sour grapes. But when I put in as much free time for the University as I do (not counting this site), it's terribly frustrating. I promise once I pick seats (if I decide to get them) that I won't complain further. You guys are my venting party.

What he said, with one exception. After I pick on Monday, I still might complain further. I'm on the clock right before lunch and there are two sets of seats available in an acceptable, but still a downgraded, location. We'll see if they're still there when I pick.


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[bleedXblue]

Because the person with 8 doesn't necessarily own those 8 going forward. In the case I know of, owner retained 3 for himself and bought 5 tickets for other people who were allowed to jump several days up in the process (in one case two weeks). Yes, the number of seats is the same, but the ownership of those eight seats is not.

Yeah but he still controls those 8 seats.......he's not adding tickets thus taking away potential seats from anyone else.....

I get the guy who has 2 seats now and is adding 2 more to his total and allowing someone else to jump ahead in line.

[coasterville95]

If the guy that got 8 was clever enough to think to buy more last year (possibly even cheap seats) so that he could instantly trade them this year at a nice profit. Clever. Or if he had two other groups transfer their seats to him last year. (With the promise to transfer the title back in 18-19) also very clever forward planning

Now the person that added additional seats, that's more dubious. But I can see how it works in a cash is king environment. "Yes, I want to add 2 seats, 4 seats - but if you don't let me add now, my group will be split up. And I can't have that. Oh and recall my recent generosity.

You think any donation minded outfit is going to turn him down. Integrity be danged.

Sucks for those that play by the rules. But then, rules are for suckers right?

[Muskie]

Yeah but he still controls those 8 seats.......he's not adding tickets thus taking away potential seats from anyone else.....

I get the guy who has 2 seats now and is adding 2 more to his total and allowing someone else to jump ahead in line.

He does not control those seats going forward as the parties that actually paid for the seats can have the account transferred to themselves after one season.


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[Emp]

I'm not a season ticket holder, but was in the 90s.

I don't get the beefs here. A good buddy is a Miami grad, has had season tickets since 1988. My friend goes to a LOT of sporting events. "Best sports ticket value in town over the last 25 years. Not even close ".

Most of us believe that. The fact is loyal Xavier fans have been getting great basketball, coaches and now an arena at a great price. The market speaks

That our alma mater can sell seats and raise revenue -- for whatever educational purpose it sees fit -- bothers me not at all. In fact it encourages me. Xavier has been on the edge from time to time. Apparently we aren't super rich AND/or generous alums, the endowment just recently moved out of the nonexistent category. By all means, please Xavier, reap financial support from a great program with good student athletes in a great arena.

If generosity to (especially non basketball) Xavier is reciprocated with choice seats, BRAVO!.

The bruised sense of entitlement to the same seats in perpetuity on account of loyalty is........greatly X-aggerated? You'll really derive less pleasure in a new seat with gulp new, possibly perilously unknown seat neighbors? This is the gist of the thread.

Some do protest too much.

[bleedXblue]

He does not control those seats going forward as the parties that actually paid for the seats can have the account transferred to themselves after one season.


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But he could renew the 8 seats and leave them all with him too....how do you know its not his/her entire family that goes to the games?

I highly, highly doubt this scenario is happening very much at all....

Now the guy with 2 seats buying 2 more......im sure that has been taken advantage of......

[WCWIII]

Let's see if this works. Here's the day-by-day seating chart so far (link pdf file (https://www.dropbox.com/s/wn0c74f3j2yeoju/CintasFillingUp.pdf?dl=0)). Fun to flip forward / backward.

I'll try to update it weekly. 5/19

[72Muskie]

I think that the first seats to go in Section 108 are the coaches' families. That is where they sat for as long as I can remember. I guess they have lots of Musketeer Points :flex:

[Muskie]

But he could renew the 8 seats and leave them all with him too....how do you know its not his/her entire family that goes to the games?

I highly, highly doubt this scenario is happening very much at all....

Now the guy with 2 seats buying 2 more......im sure that has been taken advantage of......

I know the person and other persons he included in his 8. That's how I know it occurred.

At any rate, no use complaining about it anymore. I'll see if there are seats I like on Thursday. If not, I'll watch from home.


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[XU 87]

Most of us believe that. The fact is loyal Xavier fans have been getting great basketball, coaches and now an arena at a great price. The market speaks.

The bruised sense of entitlement to the same seats in perpetuity on account of loyalty is........greatly X-aggerated? You'll really derive less pleasure in a new seat with gulp new, possibly perilously unknown seat neighbors? This is the gist of the thread.

Some do protest too much.



The market is not necessarily speaking. Nobody came to me and said, "Here's what you have to pay for those seats if you want to keep them." I didn't even have a chance to keep my old seats.

I suspect if you still had season tickets, and lost the seats you've had for years, or lost seats where you've been sitting with friends or family for years, you would have a bit of a different attitude about this. It's much easier to have your opinion when events don't affect you.

[STL_XUfan]

The market is not necessarily speaking. Nobody came to me and said, "Here's what you have to pay for those seats if you want to keep them." I didn't even have a chance to keep my old seats

Then you didn't ask, because they would have given you that number.