Seat Selection Emails

[bjf123]

The market is not necessarily speaking. Nobody came to me and said, "Here's what you have to pay for those seats if you want to keep them." I didn't even have a chance to keep my old seats.

They did to someone I know. The amount was $25K. He laughed. He picked early enough that while he didn't keep his seats, he was able to get something pretty close.


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[XU 87]

Then you didn't ask, because they would have given you that number.

Maybe so, but that wasn't how it was explained to me at the info meeting I went to. And I raised this specific point.

[X-man]

The market is not necessarily speaking. Nobody came to me and said, "Here's what you have to pay for those seats if you want to keep them." I didn't even have a chance to keep my old seats.

I suspect if you still had season tickets, and lost the seats you've had for years, or lost seats where you've been sitting with friends or family for years, you would have a bit of a different attitude about this. It's much easier to have your opinion when events don't affect you.

Totally agree. Easy to claim people protest too much when you aren't in the game yourself.

[72Muskie]

I hesitate to state the obvious but I will. The priority seating is based on Musketeer Points. Musketeer Points are awarded for things like longevity as a season ticket holder, number of degrees, purchasing Women's tickets, etc., including AFO donations (I'm sure that someone on this board knows all the details). Assuming that those other factors are now behind us, you could have "bought" all the points you wanted at, check my math on this, $33.33 per point. But if the people ahead of you also "buy" the same number of points, they are still ahead of you. Giving $25K doesn't guarantee anything but it certainly improves your odds (an additional 750 points).

I'm confused as to why this is so hard to understand.

[Masterofreality]

I'm not a season ticket holder, but was in the 90s.

I don't get the beefs here. A good buddy is a Miami grad, has had season tickets since 1988. My friend goes to a LOT of sporting events. "Best sports ticket value in town over the last 25 years. Not even close ".

Most of us believe that. The fact is loyal Xavier fans have been getting great basketball, coaches and now an arena at a great price. The market speaks

That our alma mater can sell seats and raise revenue -- for whatever educational purpose it sees fit -- bothers me not at all. In fact it encourages me. Xavier has been on the edge from time to time. Apparently we aren't super rich AND/or generous alums, the endowment just recently moved out of the nonexistent category. By all means, please Xavier, reap financial support from a great program with good student athletes in a great arena.

If generosity to (especially non basketball) Xavier is reciprocated with choice seats, BRAVO!.

The bruised sense of entitlement to the same seats in perpetuity on account of loyalty is........greatly X-aggerated? You'll really derive less pleasure in a new seat with gulp new, possibly perilously unknown seat neighbors? This is the gist of the thread.

Some do protest too much.

Very well said, Emp!
For a private school like Xavier, Success comes at a price.

[bleedXblue]

I'm not a season ticket holder, but was in the 90s.

I don't get the beefs here. A good buddy is a Miami grad, has had season tickets since 1988. My friend goes to a LOT of sporting events. "Best sports ticket value in town over the last 25 years. Not even close ".

Most of us believe that. The fact is loyal Xavier fans have been getting great basketball, coaches and now an arena at a great price. The market speaks

That our alma mater can sell seats and raise revenue -- for whatever educational purpose it sees fit -- bothers me not at all. In fact it encourages me. Xavier has been on the edge from time to time. Apparently we aren't super rich AND/or generous alums, the endowment just recently moved out of the nonexistent category. By all means, please Xavier, reap financial support from a great program with good student athletes in a great arena.

If generosity to (especially non basketball) Xavier is reciprocated with choice seats, BRAVO!.

The bruised sense of entitlement to the same seats in perpetuity on account of loyalty is........greatly X-aggerated? You'll really derive less pleasure in a new seat with gulp new, possibly perilously unknown seat neighbors? This is the gist of the thread.

Some do protest too much.

Very well said!!

[bleedXblue]

Very well said, Emp!
For a private school like Xavier, Success comes at a price.

And you can sit in the upper section for $200.00 a ticket per year. No seat license. That's insanely cheap for sure a good product.

[xeus]

I'm not a season ticket holder, but was in the 90s.

Oh, well, by all means please let us know what you think as a non-season ticket holder who is not affected.


I don't get the beefs here.

Clearly. Do you think that is because you aren't a season ticket holder, and are not affected?


"Best sports ticket value in town over the last 25 years. Not even close "... The fact is loyal Xavier fans have been getting great basketball, coaches and now an arena at a great price.

No one is complaining about a lack of value. I think we all feel it's a fantastic value.


That our alma mater can sell seats and raise revenue -- for whatever educational purpose it sees fit -- bothers me not at all. In fact it encourages me. Xavier has been on the edge from time to time. Apparently we aren't super rich AND/or generous alums, the endowment just recently moved out of the nonexistent category. By all means, please Xavier, reap financial support from a great program with good student athletes in a great arena.

I don't think anyone is complaining about the University generating revenue. See, that's the danger when you jump in to "explain" something that you are not involved with. You completely miss the point. And frankly, I have better seats and I am paying less. I'd have happily paid a bit more, and will funnel that "saved" money to AFO.


The bruised sense of entitlement to the same seats in perpetuity on account of loyalty is........greatly X-aggerated? You'll really derive less pleasure in a new seat with gulp new, possibly perilously unknown seat neighbors? This is the gist of the thread.

Again, missing the point. Most folks who were negatively impacted by this process are concerned with the actual seat selection process, including how points were determined, and whether that was equitable. I think the overall return on this process, for the University, does not warrant completely re-seating the entire arena simply to widen a handful of seats. I have never, in almost 20 years on Xavier message boards, heard complaints about the width of the seats.

[bjf123]

Well, I'm in. I was able to stay in the same section, but I'm at the other end of the row and four rows further back. Could have been better. Could have been worse.


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[nuts4xu]

My dad and I picked our and I'm happy with the process. We are in our same section, a few rows back on an aisle with people we know around us. We could have had seats within one row of our original tickets had we wanted to stay in that price range. The lady we worked with said they could have done the same thing with 90% of the people who have selected so far.

[coasterville95]

I think that generally is how this is playing out.

Sure, some seats were lost, but wasn't their a net gain in total seating with the addition of the overlook. The overlook seems to scream "corporate seats" - I mean you can give a client seats, parking, buffet and beer. That's a classy perk to help seal a deal. Perhaps some people that held the front seats that are being widened moved up there. And for most of us it will play out as simply redrawing our old seats or having to move a row back or something.

[nuts4xu]

I think that generally is how this is playing out.

Sure, some seats were lost, but wasn't their a net gain in total seating with the addition of the overlook. The overlook seems to scream "corporate seats" - I mean you can give a client seats, parking, buffet and beer. That's a classy perk to help seal a deal. Perhaps some people that held the front seats that are being widened moved up there. And for most of us it will play out as simply redrawing our old seats or having to move a row back or something.

I think the net gain is 120 or so seats, if I remember correctly. I was told they will lose roughly 100 or so seats in the process, with a net gain of 120 seats.

[XMuskieFTW]

I think the net gain is 120 or so seats, if I remember correctly. I was told they will lose roughly 100 or so seats in the process, with a net gain of 120 seats.

That initial estimate was incorrect. They announced a week or two ago that capacity actually dropped 26 seats to 10,224.

[coasterville95]

That initial estimate was incorrect. They announced a week or two ago that capacity actually dropped 26 seats to 10,224.

But, wasn't the addition of the Norwood Café bar, effectively taking rows away from Section 215 a late change to the renovation. Perhaps taking a row or two out of 215 caused the drop from +120 to -26.

When you look at the detail seating charts they put out daily, at least it looks like 215 is now smaller than its counterpart 216.

[xeus]

But, wasn't the addition of the Norwood Café bar, effectively taking rows away from Section 215 a late change to the renovation. Perhaps taking a row or two out of 215 caused the drop from +120 to -26.

When you look at the detail seating charts they put out daily, at least it looks like 215 is now smaller than its counterpart 216.

That wasn't a late change, just recently announced.

[chico]

Oh, well, by all means please let us know what you think as a non-season ticket holder who is not affected.



Clearly. Do you think that is because you aren't a season ticket holder, and are not affected?



No one is complaining about a lack of value. I think we all feel it's a fantastic value.



I don't think anyone is complaining about the University generating revenue. See, that's the danger when you jump in to "explain" something that you are not involved with. You completely miss the point. And frankly, I have better seats and I am paying less. I'd have happily paid a bit more, and will funnel that "saved" money to AFO.



Again, missing the point. Most folks who were negatively impacted by this process are concerned with the actual seat selection process, including how points were determined, and whether that was equitable. I think the overall return on this process, for the University, does not warrant completely re-seating the entire arena simply to widen a handful of seats. I have never, in almost 20 years on Xavier message boards, heard complaints about the width of the seats.

Can someone show me a post where emp isn't talking down to us?

I mean he's 100 miles away, hasn't been involved in any of the selection process, doesn't have any tickets, hasn't spent the last 15 years getting to know the people around him and forming friendships with those people, but yet he's the freaking authority on how we are just a bunch of entitled, selfish fools who should be happy we even are allowed to purchase tickets at all. Does it get any more arrogant?

[BENWAR]

Can someone show me a post where emp isn't talking down to us?

I mean he's 100 miles away, hasn't been involved in any of the selection process, doesn't have any tickets, hasn't spent the last 15 years getting to know the people around him and forming friendships with those people, but yet he's the freaking authority on how we are just a bunch of entitled, selfish fools who should be happy we even are allowed to purchase tickets at all. Does it get any more arrogant?

So true!

[Emp]

Can someone show me a post where emp isn't talking down to us?

I mean he's 100 miles away, hasn't been involved in any of the selection process, doesn't have any tickets, hasn't spent the last 15 years getting to know the people around him and forming friendships with those people, but yet he's the freaking authority on how we are just a bunch of entitled, selfish fools who should be happy we even are allowed to purchase tickets at all. Does it get any more arrogant?

Can any one show me a post where Chico doesn't have an ax to grind with me?

I love having some one "following" my every post, but someone seriously needs to get a life.

I'll buy you a beer in your new seat location (you do have season tix?) just to hear you out on why you're obsessing.

[bleedXblue]

At this point, the ship has sailed and as the say....it is what it is.

It looks and sounds as though many, many season ticket holders either got their original seats or seats very close to where they were sitting last year. I'm sure there are and will be some exceptions.....

With every process like this there will be those that have little issue and others who just can't let it go. Human nature.

[X-man]

Picked my seats at 9:05 this morning. As of the end of the day yesterday, my 3 seats in Row I (Section 104) were available and my plan was to select them. But when we said we wanted those, we discovered that one of the 5 groups that selected ahead of us this morning had grabbed them. Totally sucks. But we did find 3 seats in Row J of Section 105 (behind the bench) that were available. Unlike my tickets in 104, they are not on the aisle. But they are only 2 seats in from the aisle between 105 and 107, so they are arguably better seats than my 104 seats were. I won't see the bench the way I did in 104, but according to the guy helping with the selection, I will be hearing the bench. He warned us that we will occasionally be hearing some salty language. I'm OK with that.

[bjf123]

I think you'll love your new seats. I was in 105 row L until those went away early in the process. They're great seats for watching the game, but you rarely hear anything from the bench, other than the occasional fuck when a player is walking to his seat and is mad about something.


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[coasterville95]

Congrats X-Man. Sounds like you came out of this ok.

[deepX]

X-Man. Glad to hear you got some good seats. Another friend was planning to pick those three 104, row I, isle seats, but they were gone when he selected at 8:30 this morning.
-deepX

[xeus]

Xman, I'm in 105 Row I. Keep it down back there.

[X-man]

Xman, I'm in 105 Row I. Keep it down back there.

I'll try to avoid spilling my beer.

[X-man]

Congrats X-Man. Sounds like you came out of this ok.

I did, but frankly I would have loved to have kept my seats in 104. Been there for 17 years.

[Muskie]

I don't go till Thursday at 11.

[coasterville95]

Well, thanks for not swiping my seats to stay in 104.

104 and 103 are starting to fill

Monday morning for me. Right now I am pacing the floor each day to look at the update.

It sounds like most are getting through this fine, but I worry easy.

It looks like sales in the overlook and Joseph club mini suites have stalled.

[paulxu]

Xman, I'm in 105 Row I. Keep it down back there.

Down in front.

[Muskie]

Coaster how many seats are you looking to get?

[SM#24]

I may go upper deck sidelines, 209-214. Anything to avoid in the first 2-3 rows, namely sight line issues ?

[Frambo]

I don't go till Thursday at 11.

I'm not till the 26th....officially screwed

[Muskie]

I'm not till the 26th....officially screwed Keep in mind anywhere you see 3 seats, you have to either buy one, or all three. You can't buy 2 and leave a single. That screwed me up this morning when I line jumped. I'm now part of the problem.

The ticket guy was nice, and even took some of my criticism.

[GrimeTime]

I'm honestly shocked that at this point in the game there are still 500+ lower bowl sideline seats (secs 105-114) plus a few hundred lower bowl end zone seats (secs 101-104).

[GrimeTime]

Keep in mind anywhere you see 3 seats, you have to either buy one, or all three.

Oh, that sucks! I didn't realize that. Interesting...

edit: At quick glance, that seems to be over 50 of the remaining 500 seats in the lower bowl sideline areas.

[CSS85]

Keep in mind anywhere you see 3 seats, you have to either buy one, or all three. You can't buy 2 and leave a single. That screwed me up this morning when I line jumped. I'm now part of the problem.

The ticket guy was nice, and even took some of my criticism.

That 3 seat thing allowed me to move waaayyyy down close, so I'm really happy with it. Works both ways as my previous 4 seats, which were still pretty good, were available for someone else to move closer.

[Muskie]

That 3 seat thing allowed me to move waaayyyy down close, so I'm really happy with it. Works both ways as my previous 4 seats, which were still pretty good, were available for someone else to move closer.

I get it. I've tried to remain sympathetic/empathetic throughout this whole thing to people getting seats.

[Retire33]

I'm not till the 26th....officially screwed

Feel your pain! I go next Thursday as well

[coasterville95]

So are people opting to do this online or go to Cintas. I have the time blocked off the work calendar to go to Cintas.

Any benefit to one over the other?

[bjf123]

So are people opting to do this online or go to Cintas. I have the time blocked off the work calendar to go to Cintas.

Any benefit to one over the other?

If you go to Cintas, with the construction going on, you can't go out to the actual seats. Probably easier to do it over the phone. That's what I did and the guy I spoke with, Eric, was very helpful.


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[nuts4xu]

If you go to Cintas, with the construction going on, you can't go out to the actual seats. Probably easier to do it over the phone.


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This is not accurate especially if you are choosing from the remaining seats. I went in person on Monday and the place was still set up for graduation. All the seats from last season (except the students' section) remain in place. Some of the "bones" of the new areas are there, but wide spread changes will begin in June. The Cintas hosts HS graduations through the first part of June, and they couldn't tell these schools to find new places....or they risk losing their business.

Personally, since I was changing seats, I was glad to see it live. My new seats have different sight lines, and I'm a lot more confident we made a good choice. Nothing wrong with either method, but you can see the viewpoints of your prospective seats.

[xualum73]

Agree with NUTS. I also drove down to Cintas on Monday. A staff member with an IPAD showed us available seats which we tried in multiple sections: 103, 105, 107, 109, 211 and 213. It was most helpful to see the different sight lines of each section. They also, showed us the location of the new "Woods" Bar at the top of 215. Going on Monday to see the actual seat locations helped make selecting the seats online on Tuesday much easier.

[blueblob06]

So are people opting to do this online or go to Cintas. I have the time blocked off the work calendar to go to Cintas.

Any benefit to one over the other?

I did it online today. It was super easy. Really wanted to snag some seats in the The Lookout balcony...(handful of seats are still available)...but too rich for me right now.

[coasterville95]

Somebody was asking about upper deck obstructions - there is the television box in front of 212 and 206, not sure if that's an issue to those around it.

[coasterville95]

I looked at the lookout. Too huge a jump from premium 2 donation. Maybe somebody that had premium i or club could more easily justify it.

The current duffs buffet is $14 a game and included one drink. So i bumped that up to $21 a game and came to about $360 net worth of the food add on, then added a bit more since you would presumeably have access to the food till at least halftime. So say $400-$450 per seat benefit. With a $1,500 per seat uptick, the math doesn't work for me.

[bjf123]

This is not accurate especially if you are choosing from the remaining seats. I went in person on Monday and the place was still set up for graduation. All the seats from last season (except the students' section) remain in place. Some of the "bones" of the new areas are there, but wide spread changes will begin in June. The Cintas hosts HS graduations through the first part of June, and they couldn't tell these schools to find new places....or they risk losing their business.

Personally, since I was changing seats, I was glad to see it live. My new seats have different sight lines, and I'm a lot more confident we made a good choice. Nothing wrong with either method, but you can see the viewpoints of your prospective seats.

I stand corrected. I thought I read something in the information from X that it wouldn't be possible to go out to any of the seats. Glad it worked out for you.


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[cheeba]

Interesting thing about upper level.

I went to tour multiple seat locations before the selection process officially began and was torn between lower and upper bowl. Had been in 102 and the salesperson was saying that he thought first row upper bowl was the way to go if he were selecting seats. He stated that since Cintas opened, only 4 total row a seats in the 200 level ever became available.

[muskienick]

Somebody was asking about upper deck obstructions - there is the television box in front of 212 and 206, not sure if that's an issue to those around it.

In inquired about the possibility of obstructions from cameras and their operators if choosing seats immediately behind them in Section 212. They said there could be some blockage of action on the floor in the rows immediately behind Rows 1 and 2 (where the cameras are located). It was for this reason that I chose seats in Rows 5 and 6 immediately lined up with the center line on the floor. I think they will work out well for us.

[WCWIII]

Keep in mind anywhere you see 3 seats, you have to either buy one, or all three.

My time is Friday in the late afternoon (4:26). I haven't decided whether to buy 1 seat at the orange / green level or 2 at the yellow / upper deck. I see some very nice combinations of 3 available down low ... like Sec 104 row 2. I also have enjoyed being close to visitors bench ... you see so much Xavier coverage, it's nice to get to know our Big East competitors up close in Sec 113. I'm inclined to pick up one singles of these 3-somes if possible ... this frees a pair that is down low.

I don't know if these 3-somes will be available when I pick. Ideally, someone I know (or from this board) would pick up the other two. As I come in from Chicago ... I know I won't make all the mid-week games (unless it's vs Villanova again). It would be nice to trade a bunch of my games for a few opportunities to have 2 seats to take my father to an occasional game. Send me a PM if some coordination might interest you. I'll post Friday where I selected. I've seen a few seats look gone, only to re-appear. It might be possible to move your seats slightly even if you've already picked?? I plan to do it all online unless someone says it really helps to speak with a live person.

[Tardy Turtle]

Got my old seats.

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[coasterville95]

I've officially been ousted from my seats.

Back to the drawing board.

[X-man]

I've officially been ousted from my seats.

Back to the drawing board.

I saw that your seats were taken today, but I was hoping that they were taken by you. Hopefully you will find a reasonable substitute available when you pick.

[coasterville95]

Yeah, I'm going in over the weekend to remove that private Listermann beer tap that was stealthy installed in back of that seat.

[bleedXblue]

Yeah, I'm going in over the weekend to remove that private Listermann beer tap that was stealthy installed in back of that seat.

now that's a damn good idea!

[D-West & PO-Z]

Anyone have any experience with the sightline from down low in section 103? My initial thoughts are I wouldnt like it that I would prefer to be higher from that angle but interested if anyone has experienced it.

Also is there a virtual seat view online?

[kmcrawfo]

Anyone have any experience with the sightline from down low in section 103? My initial thoughts are I wouldnt like it that I would prefer to be higher from that angle but interested if anyone has experienced it.

Also is there a virtual seat view online?

While I personally love the corner view of the court and it is my first choice seating location, I wouldn't recommend the first few rows in 103. The team and staff are standing frequently, if not most of the game, and in my experience will obscure your view. I have first row seats in section 104 , which are great and don't have the same problem. 103 is great section as long as you are high enough to be above the standing team/staff.

[D-West & PO-Z]

While I personally love the corner view of the court and it is my first choice seating location, I wouldn't recommend the first few rows in 103. The team and staff are standing frequently, if not most of the game, and in my experience will obscure your view. I have first row seats in section 104 , which are great and don't have the same problem. 103 is great section as long as you are high enough to be above the standing team/staff.

Thank you!

[xeus]

Also is there a virtual seat view online?

http://www.experiencecintascenter.com/current-availability/

[D-West & PO-Z]

http://www.experiencecintascenter.com/current-availability/

D'oh, thanks, I totally missed that.

[Muskie]

D'oh, thanks, I totally missed that.

I'm in row q now. From the photos I was provided. Sight lines look good.


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[D-West & PO-Z]

I'm in row q now. From the photos I was provided. Sight lines look good.


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In 103?

[Muskie]

Yes sir


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[xeus]

Anyone have any experience with the sightline from down low in section 103? My initial thoughts are I wouldnt like it that I would prefer to be higher from that angle but interested if anyone has experienced it.

Also is there a virtual seat view online?


My seats used to be Row J in 103, on the aisle across from 105. Great seats and great view. I've moved over to 105 on the same aisle, but would have been perfectly happy staying in 103. KCraw is right about not going too low. I'd stay away from the first 5 rows.

[X-man]

Anyone have any experience with the sightline from down low in section 103? My initial thoughts are I wouldnt like it that I would prefer to be higher from that angle but interested if anyone has experienced it.

Also is there a virtual seat view online?

I was Section 104 in Row I. It is comparable in terms of sightlines to Section 103. Views were great, and I would have taken my seats this time had they been available. I agree with others; don't get seats in the first 5 rows, particularly near the bench were players might be standing periodically. And frankly, I think courtside seats would be horrible for viewing (though great for being so close). Down at floor level, you quickly realize (1) how tall the players are, and (2) how hard it must be as PG to see what is going on through all the bodies. I know people love those seats, and of course our play-by-play guys are sitting there, but it would not work for me.

[kmcrawfo]

I'm in row q now. From the photos I was provided. Sight lines look good.


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Those will be great seats. I sat in almost the exact same location a few years ago and really liked them. Hopefully, you can join me for a few games next year as well.

K

[Muskie]

Those will be great seats. I sat in almost the exact same location a few years ago and really liked them. Hopefully, you can join me for a few games next year as well.

K Looking forward to it.

[bjf123]

My seats used to be Row J in 103, on the aisle across from 105. Great seats and great view. I've moved over to 105 on the same aisle, but would have been perfectly happy staying in 103. KCraw is right about not going too low. I'd stay away from the first 5 rows.

Glad to hear it's a good view. I was 105 on the aisle with 107, but lost those in the shuffle. I'm still in 105, but now on the aisle with 103. I'm wondering how much I'll need to turn in my seat to see the action at the other end of the floor.


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[xeus]

Glad to hear it's a good view. I was 105 on the aisle with 107, but lost those in the shuffle. I'm still in 105, but now on the aisle with 103. I'm wondering how much I'll need to turn in my seat to see the action at the other end of the floor.


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We had that option but preferred the aisle w 103. 103-105 is also the aisle where you'll see recruits, former players, etc making their way down to their seats. What row are you?

[XU 87]

While I had to get new seats, I still ended up with decent seats.

That said, I still think this seat selection process sucked.

(I just wanted to bitch about this one last time.)

[X-man]

Glad to hear it's a good view. I was 105 on the aisle with 107, but lost those in the shuffle. I'm still in 105, but now on the aisle with 103. I'm wondering how much I'll need to turn in my seat to see the action at the other end of the floor.


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I am two seats off the aisle between 105 and 107, in Row J of 105. Hopefully these seats are as good as the GREAT seats I used to have on the aisle in 104, Row I.

[WCWIII]

Look forward to seeing some posters this coming year. Ended up with Sec 102, Row 3, center aisle.

And by "posters," I mean our big men slamming 'em down over opponents ... not necessarily any of you guys.


My time is Friday in the late afternoon (4:26). I haven't decided whether to buy 1 seat at the orange / green level or 2 at the yellow / upper deck. I see some very nice combinations of 3 available down low ... like Sec 104 row 2. I also have enjoyed being close to visitors bench ... you see so much Xavier coverage, it's nice to get to know our Big East competitors up close in Sec 113. I'm inclined to pick up one singles of these 3-somes if possible ... this frees a pair that is down low.

I don't know if these 3-somes will be available when I pick. Ideally, someone I know (or from this board) would pick up the other two. As I come in from Chicago ... I know I won't make all the mid-week games (unless it's vs Villanova again). It would be nice to trade a bunch of my games for a few opportunities to have 2 seats to take my father to an occasional game. Send me a PM if some coordination might interest you. I'll post Friday where I selected. I've seen a few seats look gone, only to re-appear. It might be possible to move your seats slightly even if you've already picked?? I plan to do it all online unless someone says it really helps to speak with a live person.

[xeus]

Ended up with Sec 102, Row 3, center aisle.

Nice seat. This also means you are responsible for booing the refs when they exit the tunnel at halftime.

[coasterville95]

I keep hitting refresh waiting for this update. Things should really be solidified by them. If X-Man chose at 9:05 and was 6th on his day that means I am as most 5th on 5/22. (We have determined there are no picks during the weekend right?).

[kmcrawfo]

I am happy that it seems like pretty much all of us are finding seats that we are content with. Thankfully, I haven't seen anyone who has not renewed yet due to this process. I am excited to be at the games next year cheering the team on with all my fellow X fans

[Section 200]

Top row of the upper deck has filled up fast. Maybe the price is too high for 215 and 216 since no one seems to want to be in those sections.

[coasterville95]

Looks like il still be in 104 somewhere. Unless things go real sideways with the first few picks Monday. So at least similar seats.

[bjf123]

We had that option but preferred the aisle w 103. 103-105 is also the aisle where you'll see recruits, former players, etc making their way down to their seats. What row are you?

Row P. I was row L when I was on the aisle between 105 and 107. X-man is just in front of there now.


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[Muskie]

Top row of the upper deck has filled up fast. Maybe the price is too high for 215 and 216 since no one seems to want to be in those sections.

Nobody wants to be sitting in front of the bar area?


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[D-West & PO-Z]

Thanks for the input all.

I was trying to find out some info for my parents who purchased 4 tickets today.

I couldnt swing getting season tickets again this year with a 1 year old at home but hope to be going with my parents from time to time.

They got 4 in 105 row R on the 103 aisle side.

[X-man]

Looks like il still be in 104 somewhere. Unless things go real sideways with the first few picks Monday. So at least similar seats.

Looks like you have very similar seats available. Good luck on Monday!

[Muskie]

Thanks for the input all.

I was trying to find out some info for my parents who purchased 4 tickets today.

I couldnt swing getting season tickets again this year with a 1 year old at home but hope to be going with my parents from time to time.

They got 4 in 105 row R on the 103 aisle side.

I believe they will be right across the aisle from me.


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[xeus]

Muskie, when are we launching the interactive xavierhoops Cintas seating chart? Where the hell is svoboda?

[X-band '01]

Forgot about good ol' Svobot. I miss the days when he would personally welcome all the new posters on here.

[bjf123]

I believe they will be right across the aisle from me.


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And 2 rows behind me.


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[xeus]

I believe they will be right across the aisle from me.


And 2 rows behind me.


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[Muskie]

Muskie, when are we launching the interactive xavierhoops Cintas seating chart? Where the hell is svoboda?

Haha. I'll get Jason right on that.


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[WCWIII]

Nice seat (102 row 3). This also means you are responsible for booing the refs when they exit the tunnel at halftime.

I'm already thinking about how to lead the league in first half free throw defense!

[coasterville95]

That's the initiative.

And yes, people sitting by that tunnel have a reputation to uphold when it comes to ref hospitality.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I believe they will be right across the aisle from me.


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Nice. I should be at a lot of games with them we'll have to connect at some point.

[coasterville95]

Put me in the same section within a row club.

Seats. Selected.

[Muskie]

Put me in the same section within a row club.

Seats. Selected.

Where did you end up?

[paulxu]

What's "within a row club?"

[94GRAD]

What's "within a row club?"

Within a row of his previous seats?

[GrimeTime]

GrimeTime on the clock, and BOOM! Last row, baby! Last. Row.

Seriously. 212 Row N. If you are going to be up high, might as well have the last row. You can stand up whenever you want, and you are the closest person to the beer cart. :munch:

Front Row! (https://youtu.be/DPh4iF76LbU?t=15s)

[coasterville95]

Are you related to Bob Eucker?

Although I can see the advantages you mentioned.

Sorry for the confusion. Im still in section 104, I was right on the center aisle of 104, now closer to the 104/106 aisle. Still back of the section.

[paulxu]

If you are going to be up high, might as well have the last row.

...bonus....Snipe will be standing right behind you.

Also, Jerry Richardson (Panthers' owner) gave money to build new arena on Wofford campus. Small (maybe 3500) but will be absolutely state of the art comfortable. Use to have season tickets, 4 rows off the floor, right at mid court. Great games for small college ball. Curry came when Davidison was in SoCon.

They of course will re-seat everyone going from old arena to new arena. Was talking to my friend who has tickets, at lunch today. Somehow Wofford knows season ticket holders who are groups of people that have sat together for years. Seriously we're probably only talking about 1-200 people total. But...those groups are getting first crack at selecting groups of seats so they can stay together. Then come other season ticket holders, probably based on levels of giving. He doesn't know how they are doing it, but they are. Thought about you guys and some of the comments here.

[94GRAD]

...bonus....Snipe will be standing right behind you.

Also, Jerry Richardson (Panthers' owner) gave money to build new arena on Wofford campus. Small (maybe 3500) but will be absolutely state of the art comfortable. Use to have season tickets, 4 rows off the floor, right at mid court. Great games for small college ball. Curry came when Davidison was in SoCon.

They of course will re-seat everyone going from old arena to new arena. Was talking to my friend who has tickets, at lunch today. Somehow Wofford knows season ticket holders who are groups of people that have sat together for years. Seriously we're probably only talking about 1-200 people total. But...those groups are getting first crack at selecting groups of seats so they can stay together. Then come other season ticket holders, probably based on levels of giving. He doesn't know how they are doing it, but they are. Thought about you guys and some of the comments here.

Paul, your troll game is 100% fire!!!

[nuts4xu]

Are you related to Bob Eucker?

Although I can see the advantages you mentioned.

Sorry for the confusion. Im still in section 104, I was right on the center aisle of 104, now closer to the 104/106 aisle. Still back of the section.

You are in my section, but will be seated MUCH closer to Gladdenguy. He is on the same aisle, in the same general area as the seats you mention above.

So you have that going for you....which is NICE!!!

[paulxu]

but will be seated MUCH closer to Gladdenguy.

Who is easy to recognize. He's the guy with the sign that says "the End is Near."

[bigdiggins]

Front row of upper deck sold out except 216 which is empty. Are the recent grads that obnoxious to be in front of?

[coasterville95]

It looks like lower deck sales are actually starting to stall out and people are starting to go for the centers in the upper deck.

I also haven't yet heard of anybody getting royally shafted in this despite all our worrying, moaning, griping and whining.

The most drastic move might be x-man from 104 to 105 and he seems to be looking forward to it.

The man that helped me said that most people are getting reseated within a row of what they had, and that the first couple days some big money donors made some big time seat improvements

[D-West & PO-Z]

It looks like lower deck sales are actually starting to stall out and people are starting to go for the centers in the upper deck.

I also haven't yet heard of anybody getting royally shafted in this despite all our worrying, moaning, griping and whining.

The most drastic move might be x-man from 104 to 105 and he seems to be looking forward to it.

The man that helped me said that most people are getting reseated within a row of what they had, and that the first couple days some big money donors made some big time seat improvements

I know a couple people who are on complete opposite sides of the arena. One for sure who is due to all but 15 seats in his old section being taken before he selected. Some of it is preferential to aisle seats and other such things too though for some.

[Burkitt's07]

It looks like lower deck sales are actually starting to stall out and people are starting to go for the centers in the upper deck.

I also haven't yet heard of anybody getting royally shafted in this despite all our worrying, moaning, griping and whining.

The most drastic move might be x-man from 104 to 105 and he seems to be looking forward to it.

The man that helped me said that most people are getting reseated within a row of what they had, and that the first couple days some big money donors made some big time seat improvements

I had seats in the 1st row of the upper deck. In my opinion the seats are better than many seats in the lower deck, as you have no obstruction and a ledge to place your beverage. Sadly, my seats have been selected.

[coasterville95]

Is there anything on that ledge to prevent a beer from going over in the heat of the action of an exciting play?

The back row of the lower bowl has a nice area in back of your seat to store any bags during the game.

I hear the cost of seats just went up. Something about Tre returning. :).

[GrimeTime]

The back row of the lower bowl has a nice area in back of your seat to store any bags during the game.

If it's anything like the last row of the upper deck, it's awesome. We stand half the game, there's room for your coats, purses, umbrellas, whatever behind you on a ledge. Nobody spilling their beer down your back or getting your belongings drenched on the floor.

And as previously mentioned - closest to the beer cart! =)

Glad I got my pick in before the Tre announcement! Ha!

[Muskie]

It looks like lower deck sales are actually starting to stall out and people are starting to go for the centers in the upper deck.

I also haven't yet heard of anybody getting royally shafted in this despite all our worrying, moaning, griping and whining.

The most drastic move might be x-man from 104 to 105 and he seems to be looking forward to it.

The man that helped me said that most people are getting reseated within a row of what they had, and that the first couple days some big money donors made some big time seat improvements

Don't accept some people's silence on the matter that they are happy with the outcome. I just promised once I picked that I wasn't saying anymore.

[Lamont Sanford]

FYI...thanks to all you whine-n-cheese 1%ers, I actually moved down a couple rows in Section 212. Still ain't paying no freakin seat license either!

#Team96 #SeatLicensesCanSuckIt

[bourbonman]

Our group of six selected today in same section and row, simply moved toward mid court by two seats each. Whew!

[Masterofreality]

All of you who say #SeatLicensesCanSuckIt can also thank us Seat License contributors for A) Helping to pay to keep our coach, B) Helping to pay for a consistent Top 25 basketball program that helps fund other successful sports like Soccer and Baseball. C) Contributing to a program that helps to lure students to fill the seats in the classrooms that pay tuitions to help keep the entire school vibrant.

But You're welcome.....to contribute whenever the hell you feel like it.

[gladdenguy]

FYI...thanks to all you whine-n-cheese 1%ers, I actually moved down a couple rows in Section 212. Still ain't paying no freakin seat license either!

#Team96 #SeatLicensesCanSuckIt

Cheap ass. I'm glad to support Coach Mack and my favorite sports team.

[Olsingledigit]

All of you who say #SeatLicensesCanSuckIt can also thank us Seat License contributors for A) Helping to pay to keep our coach, B) Helping to pay for a consistent Top 25 basketball program that helps fund other successful sports like Soccer and Baseball. C) Contributing to a program that helps to lure students to fill the seats in the classrooms that pay tuitions to help keep the entire school vibrant.

But You're welcome.....to contribute whenever the hell you feel like it.

Amen MOR

[SkyWalker]

All of you who say #SeatLicensesCanSuckIt can also thank us Seat License contributors for A) Helping to pay to keep our coach, B) Helping to pay for a consistent Top 25 basketball program that helps fund other successful sports like Soccer and Baseball. C) Contributing to a program that helps to lure students to fill the seats in the classrooms that pay tuitions to help keep the entire school vibrant.

But You're welcome.....to contribute whenever the hell you feel like it.

Ditto.

[GrimeTime]

The Xavier donors are certainly appreciated! Sometimes people forget (or never knew) how it used to be.

I had to talk my mom off the ledge this week, because the parking went up to $250. Being on a fixed retirement income, she's very sensitive to increases. From her perspective, she's been coming forever - Schmidt FH then The Gardens. Then her seat had a license when she moved to Cintas. She couldn't swing it and moved up.

I had to remind her that for $425 we're watching a Top-25 team often playing against Top-25 teams, we're not worried every minute about our coach leaving, players aren't slipping on the floor from condensation from the ice beneath it, and we're not playing the Evansville Purple Aces for the league championship of the MCC.

After that I got a "Yeah, that's all true. Plus, they have the golf cart that will take me out to my car." =)

[coasterville95]

Hold it - parking is now $250?? I thought it was included in my seat donation.

[nuts4xu]

Hold it - parking is now $250?? I thought it was included in my seat donation.

The parking location is determined by your AFO points (donations) which includes your annual seat donation.

You will definitely have parking as you always have, at no additional cost. The process has changed a bit. I think it's weird they don't use your Musketeer points like they dis for seat selections, but the way it was explained to me, it sounds like most people will have parking equal (or similar) to where you parked last season.

I am not sure what Grimetime means when he says the parking "parking went up to 250".

[chico]

Since parking now depends on how much you give each year and not where you sit, my guess is that in order to get the same parking he had to pony up more money since his seat donation doesn't get him to the level of parking he had in the past.

[xu82]

Since parking now depends on how much you give each year and not where you sit, my guess is that in order to get the same parking he had to pony up more money since his seat donation doesn't get him to the level of parking he had in the past.

Dana's is the place to park. I often go to the game as well.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Barring difficulty walking, I am not sure why anyone would want to park in those lots. Always seems like its a mess to get out of compared to my free side street parking.

[bigdiggins]

Barring difficulty walking, I am not sure why anyone would want to park in those lots. Always seems like its a mess to get out of compared to my free side street parking.
The golf carts do pickups from the lots up by Listerman's as well

[coasterville95]

Perfect for your pre game or post game craft beer needs!

[GrimeTime]

Since parking now depends on how much you give each year and not where you sit, my guess is that in order to get the same parking he had to pony up more money since his seat donation doesn't get him to the level of parking he had in the past.

Yep - that's correct. Sorry, I wasn't clear on that! It was always free near Captain D's at Montgomery Road. Last year it became a pay lot and was about $100? $125? This year $250.

I typically park over by Listermann's or down by the O'Connor Center. Either way, there's a place to stop for beer en route to the game! Mom needs to park closer - or more to the point - somewhere with fewer elevation changes, so she's in the Captain D's lot, and paid the $250 this season.

[drudy23]

We don't have season tickets anymore. How did the seat selection go overall?

A royal cluster, or did it go pretty smooth?

[muskiefan82]

I have only one problem with seats. You can't pass them down. My stepfather, who has been going to X games since the 50's and taking me since the beginning of the bright times in 1982, finally gave up his season tickets because he just can't make it anymore. I offered to take them over, but X would not allow that. I could have continued to have them come to him and then pay for them, but eventually that would end as well so they are gone. Loved those seats. So, I decided to buy my own and I am still waiting. I have no idea what or where I'll end up, but I'll be there.

[Burkitt's07]

I had 2 seats in the 1st row of the upper deck and loved the seats. I've been a season ticket holder since the Gardens, but I guess others surpassed my number of points either by having more seats or donating more because my seats were gone earlier this week when it was my turn to pick. I didn't feel like spending more money for worse seats, so we moved up to the 5th row where there is no license. They somehow partially counted last year's seat license to this year so I only had to pay an additional $100 for a parking pass. The staff was very nice and helpful.

[bleedXblue]

I was ok with my $100 donation to AFO for the parking pass near Captain D's. We used it maybe 5-6 times last year. You can park for free at Danas or near Listerman's and be basically the same distance away. I don't see many people spending the $250.00 honestly. Pretty hefty upcharge......

[coasterville95]

Did not realize you can't transfer seats to another party.

Or was it a matter of you have to select using your Muskie point total and not his.

[muskiefan82]

Did not realize you can't transfer seats to another party.

Or was it a matter of you have to select using your Muskie point total and not his.

That was it. The seats were based on his total and that can't be transferred. It would be awesome if they would allow family transfers to let families keep the same seats forever, but oh well.

[xu82]

I have only one problem with seats. You can't pass them down. My stepfather, who has been going to X games since the 50's and taking me since the beginning of the bright times in 1982, finally gave up his season tickets because he just can't make it anymore. I offered to take them over, but X would not allow that. I could have continued to have them come to him and then pay for them, but eventually that would end as well so they are gone. Loved those seats. So, I decided to buy my own and I am still waiting. I have no idea what or where I'll end up, but I'll be there.

I'm often told things look up when I leave a room.

So, was this the nightmare some feared? Or more of a non-event? (You should know I'm too lazy to read hundreds of posts, just curious about the recap.)

[bleedXblue]

I'm often told things look up when I leave a room.

So, was this the nightmare some feared? Or more of a non-event? (You should know I'm too lazy to read hundreds of posts, just curious about the recap.)

Some have been impacted more than others.

In the grand scheme of things, how bad is your life if you had to move a few rows from where your original seats were and you are really upset about things?

My group of (12-14) picks next Thursday. We may need to move around a little to accommodate things. No big deal. We have a great program, great arena, 30+ years of ridiculously good success. We have many, many things to be really thankful for. We will all show up like we always do, drink a few beers and enjoy the time together watching our Muskies.....even if they view has changed a little bit.

[coasterville95]

Recap - lots of people (me being one of the worst) whined, worried, complained. Etc

From what I have seen here and heard - the majority are coming out of this with similar thought maybe not the same seats as their had.

A few have had to make moves. Nobody has come here and told a real horror story yet (say like getting shafted from lower bowl side to upper bowl corner)

[xu82]

I'd be upset if I lost an aisle seat, but I'm odd that way. And I'd just get over it and work to get back. It is important to keep things in perspective.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I could be wrong but by the looks of it so far doesnt look like they are losing too many (if any with new season ticket holders) season ticket holders as a result of all this.

[Olsingledigit]

I have only one problem with seats. You can't pass them down. My stepfather, who has been going to X games since the 50's and taking me since the beginning of the bright times in 1982, finally gave up his season tickets because he just can't make it anymore. I offered to take them over, but X would not allow that. I could have continued to have them come to him and then pay for them, but eventually that would end as well so they are gone. Loved those seats. So, I decided to buy my own and I am still waiting. I have no idea what or where I'll end up, but I'll be there.

Everyone had tomre-select this year anyway so it really wasn't a case of not letting you take them over.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Everyone had tomre-select this year anyway so it really wasn't a case of not letting you take them over.

Well it was in the sense that he couldnt take over his "account" not necessarily his tickets. It is the account with the points that cant be passed along, thus assuring him he would have no shot at the seats as he had to get in line at the end with no points.

I get what he is saying, it would be nice if accounts could be passed on to a family member but I guess I could see reasons for not doing this? It was obviously different this year because in another year he probably could have got those seats starting his own account because there wouldnt be a huge line of people in front of him.

[bjf123]

I could be wrong but by the looks of it so far doesnt look like they are losing too many (if any with new season ticket holders) season ticket holders as a result of all this.

I only know of one who didn't renew. By the time his number came up, there were no seats available anywhere near the seats he'd had. Based on the number of other people I know with season tickets, that's a 33.3% non renewal rate, which doesn't mean diddly squat.


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[nuts4xu]

I have only one problem with seats. You can't pass them down. My stepfather, who has been going to X games since the 50's and taking me since the beginning of the bright times in 1982, finally gave up his season tickets because he just can't make it anymore. I offered to take them over, but X would not allow that. I could have continued to have them come to him and then pay for them, but eventually that would end as well so they are gone. Loved those seats. So, I decided to buy my own and I am still waiting. I have no idea what or where I'll end up, but I'll be there.

Did your step father give up his seats this offseason? This year is different because they are re-seating the entire season ticket base. If your step father picked out seats this season, my guess is you would have had no issue transferring the seats to your name next season.

My dad has had tickets for over 35 years, so he had a lot of points giving him a great selection time when the Cintas Center opened. At one point the 2 seats next to us became available, and I called the ticket office, and was allowed to purchase those seats as a first time season ticket holder. A few years after that, I started traveling like a mad man, and had to give up my 2 seats. I mentioned to Gladdenguy I was giving mine up, he called the ticket office, and allowed to buy my seats as a first time season ticket holder.

The point system only matters when the entire arena is moving seats. Other years, they will sell any seat, in any location, to anyone who wants them. Xavier isn't going to advertise this work-around, as it could muddy the process.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Did your step father give up his seats this offseason? This year is different because they are re-seating the entire season ticket base. If your step father picked out seats this season, my guess is you would have had no issue transferring the seats to your name next season.

My dad has had tickets for over 35 years, so he had a lot of points giving him a great selection time when the Cintas Center opened. At one point the 2 seats next to us became available, and I called the ticket office, and was allowed to purchase those seats as a first time season ticket holder. A few years after that, I started traveling like a mad man, and had to give up my 2 seats. I mentioned to Gladdenguy I was giving mine up, he called the ticket office, and allowed to buy my seats as a first time season ticket holder.

The point system only matters when the entire arena is moving seats. Other years, they will sell any seat, in any location, to anyone who wants them. Xavier isn't going to advertise this work-around, as it could muddy the process.

Yeah all true and good point. This year was unique. Any other year when seats come open anyone can purchase.

But I still could see the benefit and why someone would want to be able to pass their "account" or points with their seats to family.

[Muskie]

I have no confirmation of this but I suspect we will be doing this sort of reseating as a somewhat regular occurrence. Say every 5-7 years.


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[D-West & PO-Z]

I have no confirmation of this but I suspect we will be doing this sort of reseating as a somewhat regular occurrence. Say every 5-7 years.


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Becuase more upgrades affecting seating or strictly as a way to get more money?

[paulxu]

Becuase more upgrades affecting seating or strictly as a way to get more money?

Hopefully to improve sight lines to our multiple FF banners.

[Muskie]

Becuase more upgrades affecting seating or strictly as a way to get more money?

They've had quite an influx of donations. If they can get everyone to keep up their points more religiously, it's more money in the door. Just my two cents.


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[D-West & PO-Z]

Hopefully to improve sight lines to our multiple FF banners.

Ah yes that will be very necessary, good point.

[X-man]

[QUOTE=Muskie;593427]I have no confirmation of this but I suspect we will be doing this sort of reseating as a somewhat regular occurrence. Say every 5-7 years.

I met with the AD, Greg Christopher, over a year ago to discuss the reseating issue. Greg was very gracious, and came to my office to listen to me vent about how unhappy many of us were and how needlessly disruptive the plan was to long-time groups of friends. Greg's explanation made no sense, but one thing he did stress repeatedly was that this was for all intents and purposes a one time event. In other words, we don't need to fear this happening again any time soon. By doing so, he made clear that there are no long term plans to make this a regular event.

[Masterofreality]

I guess I'm still surprised that the seating capacity went DOWN.

[coasterville95]

mode = evil imp

But X-Man, remember the first rule. Follow the money.

If, as Muskie either hinted or even outright stated, this seat redraw caused a massive spike in donations. I'd call it either scared money "if I don't up my donations I'm going to be screwed" or opportunistic money "Hey, maybe if i up my giving those lower level center line tickets can be mine".

They may have gone into this only planning on doing this whole thing once, justified by changes to the arena seating map. But if the donation spike was high enough I could see somebody thinking "hey, look we just made an extra two million in that seat selection". Let's do that again in 5 years.

[Masterofreality]

I guess I'm still surprised that the seating capacity went DOWN.

According to XMUSKIEFTW's post a couple of weeks ago:

"That initial estimate was incorrect. They announced a week or two ago that capacity actually dropped 26 seats to 10,224."

See this bothers me a bit because not only did the seating capacity drop, but with the overlook, won't that take away some standing room ticket sales opportunity? So, have we seen the largest crowds that the building will hold and sacrificed numbers for more dollars because of the increase in premium seats?

If so, I sure hope the dollars are worth it. I'd like to see the math though.

[paulxu]

I was in the Center a few months ago. Wondered around the empty building, down on the court, etc.
Can't really identify with a lot of what you guys are talking about, as I've never had season tickets.

But if they only lost 26 seats, it would almost seem like everyone could have stayed in the same place.
Unless they raised the number of premium seats or something. But they didn't change the upper/lower decks. They're still where they were, and should seat about the same number (less 26).

Maybe I'll have a drink at Dana's next time and BJ can explain it to me.

[xumuskies08]

I was in the Center a few months ago. Wondered around the empty building, down on the court, etc.
Can't really identify with a lot of what you guys are talking about, as I've never had season tickets.

But if they only lost 26 seats, it would almost seem like everyone could have stayed in the same place.
Unless they raised the number of premium seats or something. But they didn't change the upper/lower decks. They're still where they were, and should seat about the same number (less 26).

Maybe I'll have a drink at Dana's next time and BJ can explain it to me.

Total capacity is 26 down, but the lower deck capacity is down probably close to 200 thanks to the widened seats along the sidelines. It all has a domino effect.

[bobandtim]

Agree that this re-seating should not happen again for many years, if ever, and new required seat donation levels should not change for many years. I do think the process though has been handled fairly and professionally. In addition to some added revenue, I think the appearance of Cintas from a TV perspective was a big issue with seats above students, remodeled Joseph Lounge, Frontline seats and added Floor seats will all look great on TV. The current capacity issue of Joseph Lounge also needed to be addressed with the addition of other lounge areas in Cintas Center. Have a great holiday weekend....go Xavier!!

[paulxu]

Total capacity is 26 down, but the lower deck capacity is down probably close to 200 thanks to the widened seats along the sidelines. It all has a domino effect.

How did they squeeze the 174 seats into the upper deck? Are they behind the Woody's bar? Did they put in all new seats 1/4" narrower?

[D-West & PO-Z]

How did they squeeze the 174 seats into the upper deck? Are they behind the Woody's bar? Did they put in all new seats 1/4" narrower?

Well I am guessing the majority are those lookout seats where there used to be none in the one endzone area.

[X-man]

I don't think that the reseat brought in a lot of new money by people trying to move up in the pts. standings in order to get better seats. I base this on the fact that (1) I didn't pony up anything additional myself, and (2) my standing, as given by my selection number, never changed. That would seem to suggest that nobody leapfrogged me during the 1+ year people had to give more money. If I am right, it also reduces any incentive to repeat this noxious exercise in the future.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I don't think that the reseat brought in a lot of new money by people trying to move up in the pts. standings in order to get better seats. I base this on the fact that (1) I didn't pony up anything additional myself, and (2) my standing, as given by my selection number, never changed. That would seem to suggest that nobody leapfrogged me during the 1+ year people had to give more money. If I am right, it also reduces any incentive to repeat this noxious exercise in the future.

I am guessing you were pretty high up anyway? IF there was leapfrogging a lot of it may have been further down the list. I have no idea. Hopefully this doesnt become anything that happens every so many years but if they did make a lot of money off of it I am sure this wont be the last time.

On a completely side note I was reading you signature at the bottom of your post and thought it funny as that season was a total waste as we not only didnt make the ncaa tourney, we lost in the first round of A10 tourney and made no post season tourney. Luckily I had forgotten that season enough to have to look it up.

[Masterofreality]

I don't think that the reseat brought in a lot of new money by people trying to move up in the pts. standings in order to get better seats. I base this on the fact that (1) I didn't pony up anything additional myself, and (2) my standing, as given by my selection number, never changed. That would seem to suggest that nobody leapfrogged me during the 1+ year people had to give more money. If I am right, it also reduces any incentive to repeat this noxious exercise in the future.

Frontline seats and added floor seats will more than make up for the 26 seat loss. Don't really know about ant Joseph Club additions.

Would still like to see the math. Will probably corner Greg in a conversation at the Steak Fry.

[xeus]

Frontline seats and added floor seats will more than make up for the 26 seat loss. Don't really know about ant Joseph Club additions.

Would still like to see the math. Will probably corner Greg in a conversation at the Steak Fry.

I believe the number of seats w Joseph Club access decreased.

[kmcrawfo]

I believe the number of seats w Joseph Club access decreased.

, I think it was cut by a large margin. Now only front line and courtside seats have access, I think.

New club in the student athlete center for those who were previously allowed in Joseph lounge. I believe This is where Joe and Byron will do their pregame show live.

[X-man]

I am guessing you were pretty high up anyway? IF there was leapfrogging a lot of it may have been further down the list. I have no idea. Hopefully this doesnt become anything that happens every so many years but if they did make a lot of money off of it I am sure this wont be the last time.

On a completely side note I was reading you signature at the bottom of your post and thought it funny as that season was a total waste as we not only didnt make the ncaa tourney, we lost in the first round of A10 tourney and made no post season tourney. Luckily I had forgotten that season enough to have to look it up.

Not so high. I picked on Tuesday morning of week 3. My number was something like 931, but it never changed. Regarding my sig, I guess I should change it. But I liked the sentiment expressed even though you are right about that being the worst season of Mack's tenure.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Not so high. I picked on Tuesday morning of week 3. My number was something like 931, but it never changed. Regarding my sig, I guess I should change it. But I liked the sentiment expressed even though you are right about that being the worst season of Mack's tenure.

I wasnt suggesting you change it, I like sentiment as well, just thought it funny the ESPN props right before the worst season in our current coaches tenure.

[72Muskie]

I was told that the issue with Joseph Club access was that in the old configuration the first 14 rows in sections 107 through 112 had access. That's about 1,200 seats! But the Joseph Club, by fire code, was limited to something like 250 people. Hence a problem! I know that many times I saw people turned away until others left. That happened to me more than once.

Under the new configuration fewer than 600 seats have access to the Joseph and some of those have other options as well.

I think that the Tradition Club will be very nice and does have it's own bathrooms. Now that's a plus for beer drinkers!

[xumuskies08]

Well I am guessing the majority are those lookout seats where there used to be none in the one endzone area.

Exactly. Plus they lost 2 or 3 rows of seats (probably like 75 seats) in front of The Norwood Café area behind 215. I feel like that was the difference from the original estimate of adding about 100 seats to losing 26.

[Muskie]

I don't think that the reseat brought in a lot of new money by people trying to move up in the pts. standings in order to get better seats. I base this on the fact that (1) I didn't pony up anything additional myself, and (2) my standing, as given by my selection number, never changed. That would seem to suggest that nobody leapfrogged me during the 1+ year people had to give more money. If I am right, it also reduces any incentive to repeat this noxious exercise in the future.

I was asked not to share the amount. But it was significant.


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[xualum73]

Here's one possible explanation for the loss of 26 seats. A quick check of the new online Cintas seating chart shows 162 new Lookout seats, 40 new Courtside baseline seats and 48 new Living Room/Joseph Club seats for a total of 250 new seats. It also shows the loss of four rows with a total of 96 seats in section 215 for the new Woods Bar. That leaves a net gain of 154 seats. When you factor in the loss of 180 seats for the new wider front line lower bowl seats the net loss is 26 seats.

[paulxu]

So what you're saying is that all of this hullabaloo is the responsibility of a bunch of fat asses(with money) who sit in the front line lower bowl seats, and needed "wider" seats?

[X-man]

So what you're saying is that all of this hullabaloo is the responsibility of a bunch of fat asses(with money) who sit in the front line lower bowl seats, and needed "wider" seats?

That is absolutely the only reason why any reseating was needed...to accommodate those displaced from the first 7 rows of 101-106 and 113/114, plus those who were in those rows but didn't want to pay double the seat premium. Why that required a reseating of every premium paying season ticket holder is a complete mystery, unless the real reason was money. Thankfully the money motive appears to have failed to be realized, so I don't see this abomination being repeated for a LONG time.

[paulxu]

I got the fat ass. It's the $ part that's a problem.

[D-West & PO-Z]

I was asked not to share the amount. But it was significant.


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Thankfully the money motive appears to have failed to be realized, so I don't see this abomination being repeated for a LONG time.

Two very different opinions on the monetary outcome of this reseating process.

Knowing nothing I would tend to think its closer to the significant money made than the no/minimal money made.

[X-man]

Two very different opinions on the monetary outcome of this reseating process.

Knowing nothing I would tend to think its closer to the significant money made than the no/minimal money made.

If so, it had to involve only the people ranked above me (I was #931, I think, in the queue) because my queue number never changed. Had people ranked below me engaged in increasing donations, they would have jumped me in the queue. The other possibility, of course, is that people added money by increasing their seat premiums and going to more expensive seats. That would require others going to less expensive seats though, so I can't see that as a way to increase overall donations.

[Masterofreality]

So what you're saying is that all of this hullabaloo is the responsibility of a bunch of fat asses(with money) who sit in the front line lower bowl seats, and needed "wider" seats?


I got the fat ass. It's the $ part that's a problem.

Orrrrrrrrrr, they could be "fat cats" that are more than willing to spend some of their significant jack to help the program and pay to keep a damn good coach at a private school with limited resources.

One or the other.........

[paulxu]

Orrrrrrrrrr, they could be "fat cats" that are more than willing to spend some of their significant jack to help the program and pay to keep a damn good coach at a private school with limited resources.

I was being facetious with my comments. I'd sure hope the reason you note is the real one. If I was a betting man I'd go with your take.

[danaandvictory]

The actual seat selection process was pretty simple. Went over to Cintas with my dad, we spent 15-20 minutes walking around to various seat locations and options, and the folks in the ticket office got us signed up right at the time. The selection suite they have set up is pretty cool as well.

[XU 87]

Have I mentioned that I didn't like the seat selection process? Anyone? Anyone?

[Fireball]

Well, I lost my seats, but I got comparable ones. Same row, same section, still on the aisle, but on the other aisle of the section. I even bought an extra seat. So, I can't really complain.

That being said, the representative from the athletics office CALLED ME just after my selection time hit to see if I had any questions and to help choose my seats if I was ready. That was something I thought was impressive.

[Section 200]

I am not a fan of the process, but think we should reseat every other year. I was 1 day away from getting the seats I want, so if we have to move, we should do this frequently. I think in the past some folks were able to "jump the queue" by having friends in good places or being in the right place at the right time. Instead of that bs, just reseat every other year.

[xeus]

I am not a fan of the process, but think we should reseat every other year. I was 1 day away from getting the seats I want, so if we have to move, we should do this frequently. I think in the past some folks were able to "jump the queue" by having friends in good places or being in the right place at the right time. Instead of that bs, just reseat every other year.

Why on earth would you want to reseat every other year?

[muskienick]

Why on earth would you want to reseat every other year?

I agree, xeus! As nice and accommodating as the people working for XU in this process have been, I cannot imagine them wanting to be involved in such a thing on a frequent basis. I say, wait another 16-17 years and if there is a reason to do so, then do it.

[coasterville95]

Sounds like section 200 is having bitter grapes. They found out their donation levels don't warrant the seats they had, and wants a do-over.

[LA Muskie]

I am not a fan of the process, but think we should reseat every other year. I was 1 day away from getting the seats I want, so if we have to move, we should do this frequently. I think in the past some folks were able to "jump the queue" by having friends in good places or being in the right place at the right time. Instead of that bs, just reseat every other year.
For my Clippers tickets we have the option to re-seat every year. But you're never at risk of losing your own seats (they are automatically held for you unless you choose others). I like that system, because it gives me the chance to move (within the queue) if I want. But I'm not at risk of losing the seats I have.

[xeus]

For my Clippers tickets we have the option to re-seat every year. But you're never at risk of losing your own seats (they are automatically held for you unless you choose others). I like that system, because it gives me the chance to move (within the queue) if I want. But I'm not at risk of losing the seats I have.

The same goes at Xavier. You can move your seats if there are seats available. All you have to do is call the ticket office and ask what else is open. In fact they remind season ticket holders of this option at the end of every season.

[Section 200]

The same goes at Xavier. You can move your seats if there are seats available. All you have to do is call the ticket office and ask what else is open. In fact they remind season ticket holders of this option at the end of every season.

I think they have played favorites in the past. If we reseat each year, that is the fairest answer. I always asked about moving up, but was always told the seats were full. Then new folks would be in the seats - this happened 2x in the last 4 years. My assumption is that the ticket office just takes care of their friends. If there is a formal reseat, then we all have the same chance to change and they can raise more cash.

[Section 200]

Sounds like section 200 is having bitter grapes. They found out their donation levels don't warrant the seats they had, and wants a do-over.

False. I improved my position in the reseat, but want to improve a bit more. Since I was 1 day away, I figure I donate just about enough.

[xeus]

I think they have played favorites in the past. If we reseat each year, that is the fairest answer. I always asked about moving up, but was always told the seats were full. Then new folks would be in the seats - this happened 2x in the last 4 years. My assumption is that the ticket office just takes care of their friends. If there is a formal reseat, then we all have the same chance to change and they can raise more cash.

Season ticket holders are able to transfer their tickets to other people. Just because you see new people in particular seats doesn't mean Brett Sanders in the ticket office is playing favorites. I'm actually surprised you even suggested that. I moved my seats a few years ago simply by going down to Cintas at my assigned time and selecting better seats. Nothing sneaky or suspicious about it.

If you aren't happy with your seats, that's unfortunate, but forcing everyone else to reseat every year isn't the "fairest answer" to your issue. I also admit to being completely confused by your logic, specifically this gem: "I am not a fan of the process, but think we should reseat every other year. I was 1 day away from getting the seats I want, so if we have to move, we should do this frequently."

[Section 200]

Season ticket holders are able to transfer their tickets to other people. Just because you see new people in particular seats doesn't mean Brett Sanders in the ticket office is playing favorites. I'm actually surprised you even suggested that. I moved my seats a few years ago simply by going down to Cintas at my assigned time and selecting better seats. Nothing sneaky or suspicious about it.

If you aren't happy with your seats, that's unfortunate, but forcing everyone else to reseat every year isn't the "fairest answer" to your issue. I also admit to being completely confused by your logic, specifically this gem: "I am not a fan of the process, but think we should reseat every other year. I was 1 day away from getting the seats I want, so if we have to move, we should do this frequently."

My logic is that people move away, have kids, retire to Florida, etc and that be reseating each year we all can improve our position without only a privileged few benefiting. And no these weren't kids taking over dad's seats or anything like that.

[WCWIII]

Let's see if this works. Here's the day-by-day seating chart so far (link pdf file (https://www.dropbox.com/s/wn0c74f3j2yeoju/CintasFillingUp.pdf?dl=0)). Fun to flip forward / backward in full screen one page at a time.

I'll try to update it weekly. 6/2

[Muskie]

False. I improved my position in the reseat, but want to improve a bit more. Since I was 1 day away, I figure I donate just about enough. If you call on the very first day season tickets are available for purchase, you should have plenty of opportunity. I have done so, and been able to move into any price point I wanted in years past. Maybe that will change going forward, but I don't think they've played favorites. Though I guess it is possible.

[Muskie]

As an aside, when does the current re-seating end?

[coasterville95]

Better yet, indicate your seat improvement preference on your renewal form. I did that when I wanted to relocate from 208 to 104. They called me to setup an appointment to explore options.

[Frambo]

As an aside, when does the current re-seating end?

I was told June 16

[danaandvictory]

If you call on the very first day season tickets are available for purchase, you should have plenty of opportunity. I have done so, and been able to move into any price point I wanted in years past. Maybe that will change going forward, but I don't think they've played favorites. Though I guess it is possible.

We wanted to go from 4-6 seats due to family relocating to the area, but were told we could not do so, which is fine. But the ticket rep said the new prospective ST holders should call and put down a deposit ASAP as they will get first dibs when STs go on general sale after the reseat process.

[coasterville95]

Well, that was a nice surprise. I just received a thank you card for renewing my tickets. And they enclosed a $25. All for one shop gift card. Nice bonus.

Since this thread has gone quiet I guess everybody here that wants to participate has chosen thus lost interest in what is left?

[bjf123]

Well, that was a nice surprise. I just received a thank you card for renewing my tickets. And they enclosed a $25. All for one shop gift card. Nice bonus.

Since this thread has gone quiet I guess everybody here that wants to participate has chosen thus lost interest in what is left?

Yep. Got the same thing in yesterday's mail. Guess my wife and I will be heading to the All for One shop soon.

I was looking at the available seats last night. The lower bowl is almost full. Most of the open seats are in the sections behind and across from the visitors bench. Got a few sets of three open seats in the center sections. Guess those will likely stay open.


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[Muskie]

I just saw some people complaining about losing their seats on FB. Realized this was still going on. What a ride the last few weeks have been.

[X-man]

I just saw some people complaining about losing their seats on FB. Realized this was still going on. What a ride the last few weeks have been.

I think I saw that the seat selection process continues until next Friday. I visited Cintas yesterday, and they are really kicking the renovation process into gear now that graduation season is over. While there I saw one person involved in seat selection near the Joseph Club. I also went up to the top of section 215 to see where the Woods bar is located. It looks like it will be a very cool place with two levels of standing room, unlike D'Artagnan's Deck where there is only one level.

[muskiefan82]

What seats are left still?

[GrimeTime]

What seats are left still?

http://www.experiencecintascenter.com/current-availability/

...or was that sarcasm that I'm not catching? =)

[muskiefan82]

http://www.experiencecintascenter.com/current-availability/

...or was that sarcasm that I'm not catching? =)

No sarcasm. Thank you for the link.

[WCWIII]

What seats are left still?


Let's see if this works. Here's the day-by-day seating chart so far (link pdf file (https://www.dropbox.com/s/wn0c74f3j2yeoju/CintasFillingUp.pdf?dl=0)). Fun to flip forward / backward in full screen one page at a time.

I'll try to update it weekly. 6/16 done.

[surfxu]

I've always been kind of curious how many season ticket holders there are so I just checked the map and with 3 days left until seats open up to new season ticket holders it looks like the lower bowl is 99% full and the upper level appears to be about 60-70% full. At the end of the day, with new season ticket holders and 6 pack deals the Cintas may be standing room only for every game. Pretty impressive.

[X-man]

I've always been kind of curious how many season ticket holders there are so I just checked the map and with 3 days left until seats open up to new season ticket holders it looks like the lower bowl is 99% full and the upper level appears to be about 60-70% full. At the end of the day, with new season ticket holders and 6 pack deals the Cintas may be standing room only for every game. Pretty impressive.

I am told that season ticket sales are up. There are less than 200 seats left in the lower bowl, and the upper bowl is at least 40% full. The season ticket base was around 7K seats (plus student seating, around 1K) last season so if season ticket sales are up, there will be less than 2K seats available to purchase after the end of this week.

[bjf123]

Anyone know when the seat selection process ends and non season ticket holders can start? Gotta be getting close.


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[94GRAD]

Anyone know when the seat selection process ends and non season ticket holders can start? Gotta be getting close.


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Last day is this Friday

[94GRAD]

Here is what's left with two days to go.

http://www.goxavier.com/documents/2017/6/14/XAVIER_MUSKETEERS_MEN_S_BASKETBALL_6_14_2017_hi_re s.pdf

[coasterville95]

The final chart is up if it truly ends today. And to think even if I chose last I could still have gotten two in 104.

The curious side of me wonders, you know how there is always somebody who must be living in a cave and finally shows up after the deadline begging for an extension. I wonder if anybody will suddenly be shocked and upset when they find out they slept this process. Then again, Xavier was good about communication so the system may have sent overdue reminders.

[xeus]

The final chart is up if it truly ends today. And to think even if I chose last I could still have gotten two in 104.

The curious side of me wonders, you know how there is always somebody who must be living in a cave and finally shows up after the deadline begging for an extension. I wonder if anybody will suddenly be shocked and upset when they find out they slept this process. Then again, Xavier was good about communication so the system may have sent overdue reminders.

There is no need to beg for an extension. All available seats are up for sale.

[bjf123]

If I counted correctly, there are 109 open seats in the lower bowl. That's close, if nothing else. Lots of spaces with 3 together, Those will be tough to sell as season tickets since they won't let you leave a single seat.


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[X-man]

It actually looks like about 200 seats are left in the lower bowl, along with about half the upper bowl. So I am guessing that at present, there are about 8K seats dedicated to students and season ticket holders. That's a pretty strong base to work from.

[surfxu]

The final chart is up if it truly ends today. And to think even if I chose last I could still have gotten two in 104.

The curious side of me wonders, you know how there is always somebody who must be living in a cave and finally shows up after the deadline begging for an extension. I wonder if anybody will suddenly be shocked and upset when they find out they slept this process. Then again, Xavier was good about communication so the system may have sent overdue reminders.

In talking with some people in the ticket office they told me there was no way you could very long past your selection time without notification that your time to select is available. Basically he said that they have a vigorous calling campaign that "boarders on harassment" tongue in cheek, if you go past your time after a couple of days... so if you had a mid to high point level and missed your time then there's no doubt they let you know about it many times by now.

Personally, I thought the process went very smooth... and we did it with a group of about 14 people and we all stayed in the same seats or within a couple of seat of where we were... granted we're in the end zone... but still, all went better than expected, especially, considering the size of our group.

[muskiefan82]

I have been going to games with my stepfather since 1982. He decided this year not to renew (difficulty getting up and down stairs, etc.) I decided after the deadline to place my deposit so I had to wait until today to purchase my own season tickets. I am very happy with what I purchased and the process was incredibly easy. Looking forward to taking my kids to games now and raising them up as diehard X fans no matter where they end up going to college.

[coasterville95]

Welcome to the club. Enjoy the ride.

Yeah, it sounds like for all the worrying and grooming and fear and all that, that in the end this seemed to go well. Most people got what they wanted or similar. Communication was great with the nightly updates, instruction book, reminders.

[xeus]

Yeah, it sounds like for all the worrying and grooming and fear and all that, that in the end this seemed to go well. Most people got what they wanted or similar.


Yes, we get it, that's like 4th time you've said that.

I assure you there are plenty who are not pleased with how the whole thing went, irrespective of their new seats.

[bjf123]

Yes, we get it, that's like 4th time you've said that.

I assure you there are plenty who are not pleased with how the whole thing went, irrespective of their new seats.

Yep. The process itself was fine, but I'm not pleased with how things went simply because of the seats I ended up with. I prefer the seats I had, but might feel differently once the games start and I watch a few games from the new location.

There's one area where I think the university will disappointed. It looks like there are still a number of Joseph Club and Overlook seats unsold. That's a lot of money left on the table.


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[WCWIII]

Got my seat selection time for WBB season tickets today. I'm day two at 11:10 AM July 11. I've had Sec 110, Row A, half court line ... just behind the announcers. I'll refrain from complaining that I might lose those seats. Tickets are $60 (sit anywhere else), $80 Rows A-G, $120 courtside. Especially if you have a daughter/wife/younger child, consider supporting WBB.

On the men's tickets ... it was interesting that the middle/end of the selection process, people were looking more for value than best available. The Joseph Club should sell ... it should be attractive to businesses who can't commit to a suite. Tough for many individuals to lay down 4x that seat licence. The Lookouts will either become more or less attractive depending on the quality of the hospitality. I don't know where guests of the university will sit - many games have events behind the curtains. A seat with hospitality is pretty welcoming.

[xeus]

For all season ticket holders who received the $25 coupon at the All For One shop, they expire Tuesday, August 1. I'm heading to campus now to use mine. Hoping they have rolled out a new line of sweater vests.

[X-band '01]

For all season ticket holders who received the $25 coupon at the All For One shop, they expire Tuesday, August 1. I'm heading to campus now to use mine. Hoping they have rolled out a new line of UD diplomas.

Fixed that for you.

[xeus]

Fixed that for you.

I don't get it.

Anyway, no sweater vests, but I picked up a shirt. Almost went with the Yeti single can cooler, but my wife thinks I already have enough stuff to keep my beer cold.

[Juice]

I don't get it.

Anyway, no sweater vests, but I picked up a shirt. Almost went with the Yeti single can cooler, but my wife thinks I already have enough stuff to keep my beer cold.

Blackburn Review calls the older, white members of their fan base the "sweater vests."

[Wheelhouse]

Blackburn Review calls the older, white members of their fan base the "sweater vests."

I love me some Blackburn Review (the Twitter account, not the UD sportshoops blog).

[94GRAD]

I love me some Blackburn Review (the Twitter account, not the UD sportshoops blog).

One of the best follows in the business! And he loves to acknowledge us Evil Overlords!

[blueblob06]

For all season ticket holders who received the $25 coupon at the All For One shop, they expire Tuesday, August 1. I'm heading to campus now to use mine. Hoping they have rolled out a new line of sweater vests.

Thanks for the reminder! Not loving that the All For One Shop hours are 9-5 during summer!

[Muskie]

It's been a little bit over a year since the great re-seating. I still don't understand a system that happened to create an opportunity for me to give less money to the university than I was previously paying them for tickets. But I suppose the answer is someone else stepped up to fill that gap. How is everyone liking the seats one year post "re-seating".

[bigdiggins]

It's been a little bit over a year since the great re-seating. I still don't understand a system that happened to create an opportunity for me to give less money to the university than I was previously paying them for tickets. But I suppose the answer is someone else stepped up to fill that gap. How is everyone liking the seats one year post "re-seating".

Same seats, but worse seat neighbors last season. Kept my same seats again, we'll see if the neighbor situation improves.

[chico]

Same seats, but worse seat neighbors last season. Kept my same seats again, we'll see if the neighbor situation improves.

Pretty much the same situation. Bummer that most the folks who I got to know are sitting elsewhere.

[XU 87]

It's been a little bit over a year since the great re-seating. I still don't understand a system that happened to create an opportunity for me to give less money to the university than I was previously paying them for tickets. But I suppose the answer is someone else stepped up to fill that gap. How is everyone liking the seats one year post "re-seating".

I have to admit- I was pissed about the entire situation, but I like my new seats and I like the people around me. So it worked out for me, although I do miss the people that used to sit around me for the previous 17 years or so.

[STL_XUfan]

It allowed me to move downstairs with our group, so I am still good with it.

[bjf123]

Different seats that I actually like a little better. Don’t care for most of the seat neighbors. They’re not into the game nearly as much as the people I’d been around for years at my previous seats.


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[Fireball]

I'm not horribly upset by it, but I'm bummed that I lost my seats and all the people I sat with for years. New seats are OK, but I prefer to old ones.

It did allow me to add a seat so I can bring both my daughters to games instead of just one, so that's a positive.

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[cheeba]

Weren’t there some issues with the seats above and behind the student section area? I believe there were complaints last season that the spectators had trouble seeing due to the rows not being high enough or something along those lines.

[WCWIII]

I have to admit- I was pissed about the entire situation, but I like my new seats and I like the people around me. So it worked out for me, although I do miss the people that used to sit around me for the previous 17 years or so.

Happened to be re-watching last year's shootout and there is XU87 right above Coach Mack's head looking as feisty as ever (XU87 or Mack?).

I had a weird, but fun, combination last year and now settled for two seats on the aisle in Sec 107 second to last row U. Only thing thing that would make me upset would be if the the people in last row ... row V, ever complained about my standing too much.

[bjf123]

Weren’t there some issues with the seats above and behind the student section area? I believe there were complaints last season that the spectators had trouble seeing due to the rows not being high enough or something along those lines.

Yes. People sitting there couldn’t see the the action right under the basket and along the baseline. I asked about it this year and they said done adjustments had been made to correct that. Not sure what they could have done.


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[nuts4xu]

I like my seats. I am in the same section, on an aisle, closer to the beer booth/bathroom with a great view from section 104.

My seat neighbors could be improved, especially the cranky old man who works for Xavier. He didn't like the fact people around him were standing, and would often scold people. That is, until I had a "chat" with him...and he dropped the "do you know who I am" line on me. Of course I didn't, and still don't give any shits who he is, or what department he heads at Xavier. If he doesn't like people standing at a basketball game (at appropriate times, of course) then he can eat a bag of dicks!

My guess is he has changed seats this year. We will find out tomorrow night....I can't wait!!!

[Lamont Sanford]

I like my seats. I am in the same section, on an aisle, closer to the beer booth/bathroom with a great view from section 104.

My seat neighbors could be improved, especially the cranky old man who works for Xavier. He didn't like the fact people around him were standing, and would often scold people. That is, until I had a "chat" with him...and he dropped the "do you know who I am" line on me. Of course I didn't, and still don't give any shits who he is, or what department he heads at Xavier. If he doesn't like people standing at a basketball game (at appropriate times, of course) then he can eat a bag of dicks!

My guess is he has changed seats this year. We will find out tomorrow night....I can't wait!!!

Attaboy nuts! Sticking it to the 1%ers in the lower bowl! RESIST!!!

[Olsingledigit]

We. Are essentially where we have always been. Liked it before and like it now. Neighbors are fine and the nasty wine and cheese Jebbie is nowhere in sight.