Way Too Early 2017-18 Rankings

[GoMuskies]

Here's the thread for these as they start to appear. #19 according to TSN, but this ranking seems to rely on Trevon returning. 4 Big East teams ranked (usual suspects Xavier, Villanova, Butler and Creighton)

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/news/college-basketball-top-25-rankings-2017-2018-kentucky-duke-arizona-kansas-north-carolina-recruiting/2cyez9sq8mei1u5gnhxmbgnfi

[xukeith]

Here's the thread for these as they start to appear. #19 according to TSN, but this ranking seems to rely on Trevon returning. 4 Big East teams ranked (usual suspects Xavier, Villanova, Butler and Creighton)

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/news/college-basketball-top-25-rankings-2017-2018-kentucky-duke-arizona-kansas-north-carolina-recruiting/2cyez9sq8mei1u5gnhxmbgnfi

Article quote X as signing four 4 star recruits despit only 2 are 4 stars.
Interesting.

[XUFan09]

Depends on which recruiting rankings you use.

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[bleedXblue]

Article quote X as signing four 4 star recruits despit only 2 are 4 stars.
Interesting.

I've seen Scruggs, Marshall and Harden all listed as a 4 star.......

[xubrew]

It's NEVER too early!!!

[XfansinKy]

I don't know how or if I can start threads. Is Ewing going to Georgetown old news?

[GoMuskies]

I don't know how or if I can start threads. Is Ewing going to Georgetown old news?

Very

[xu82]

It's NEVER too early!!!

That's NOT what she said. (According to reports I have heard.)

[GIMMFD]

Here's the thread for these as they start to appear. #19 according to TSN, but this ranking seems to rely on Trevon returning. 4 Big East teams ranked (usual suspects Xavier, Villanova, Butler and Creighton)

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/news/college-basketball-top-25-rankings-2017-2018-kentucky-duke-arizona-kansas-north-carolina-recruiting/2cyez9sq8mei1u5gnhxmbgnfi

Time to sneak up on them again.

[xu82]

Time to sneak up on them again.

I love being that sneaky bastard!

[GIMMFD]

I love being that sneaky bastard!

This really explains why you were asking for the STD medicine in the other thread...

[xu82]

This really explains why you were asking for the STD medicine in the other thread...

I was just questioning your spelling. It looked like an Eastern European tennis player. My wife of 32 years sleeps beside me on the couch, so I doubt I'll ever need an RX for your scrabble winner.

[GIMMFD]

i was just questioning your spelling. It looked like an eastern european tennis player. My wife of 32 years sleeps beside me on the couch, so i doubt i'll ever need an rx for your scrabble winner.

onomatopoeia

[gladdenguy]

http://www.foxsports.com/college-basketball/gallery/college-basketball-rankings-2018-way-too-early-top-25-040417

[gladdenguy]

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/19047845/college-basketball-way-too-early-top-25-rankings-2017-18

[GoMuskies]

Arizona is an interesting case. I've see two rankings with Arizona #1, and two with Arizona outside the top ten. I assume that this reflects different thoughts on who will be staying and who will be leaving early.

[GetUp5]

Arizona is an interesting case. I've see two rankings with Arizona #1, and two with Arizona outside the top ten. I assume that this reflects different thoughts on who will be staying and who will be leaving early.

Bingo. I understand WHY these polls are published, but it's truly impossible to do right now. They ranked UVA in the teens and they literally return like 4 players.

[xubrew]

That's NOT what she said. (According to reports I have heard.)

Well that's HER problem! I'm happy with the outcome either way.

[bleedXblue]

UC is going to be a hell of a lot better than #24. They lost an above average PG and a lousy shooting guard. They have a solid transfer PG coming in and a ton of talent returning. I see another 30 win season for them.

[GoMuskies]

I saw them #14 in two polls.

[X-man]

Here's USAToday's ranking...the Muskies are 6th. Link: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2017/04/04/college-basketball-early-preseason-2017-18-top-25-march-madness/99893982/

[GoMuskies]

Here's USAToday's ranking...the Muskies are 6th. Link: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2017/04/04/college-basketball-early-preseason-2017-18-top-25-march-madness/99893982/

This one is definitely the outlier. Not just for Xavier, but for a number of teams. I like the enthusiasm, though!

[GoMuskies]

Here's CBS. They don't love us as much (#25), BUT they have Trevon listed as "Expected to Return". True or not, I just like seeing it in print!

http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/after-uncs-national-championship-heres-an-early-look-at-next-seasons-top-25-and-1/

[Muskie]

6 is way too high in my opinion.

[kellernr]

UC is going to be a hell of a lot better than #24. They lost an above average PG and a lousy shooting guard. They have a solid transfer PG coming in and a ton of talent returning. I see another 30 win season for them.

Their transfer PG is unproven against actual competition. He padded his stats taking basically every shot for his crappy school against crappy opponents. If you look at the very few OOC games he played against bigger schools he was basically invisible. Troy was a pretty good PG in regards to assist/TO ratio and managing the game. The new guy looks like he turns the ball over a lot more than Troy ever did.

[X-man]

6 is way too high in my opinion.

I agree, BTW. But just reporting what's out there to this thread.

[xufan2434]

Their transfer PG is unproven against actual competition. He padded his stats taking basically every shot for his crappy school against crappy opponents. If you look at the very few OOC games he played against bigger schools he was basically invisible. Troy was a pretty good PG in regards to assist/TO ratio and managing the game. The new guy looks like he turns the ball over a lot more than Troy ever did.

While that may be true, I don't think that outweighs the improvements of Cumberland, Evans, Washington, Clark, etc. If Tre comes back, next year could arguably be one of the best shootouts ever. I wouldn't say best talent on the floor during a shootout ever, but it would be at the top in terms of where both teams are collectively ranked

[blueblob06]

Here's USAToday's ranking...the Muskies are 6th. Link: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaab/2017/04/04/college-basketball-early-preseason-2017-18-top-25-march-madness/99893982/

Interesting that our top-10 recruiting class is only graded a "B+". Louisville's top 10 class is rated an "A". Scout has us #8, Lville #10. Rivals has X #9, Lville #7.

Doesn't really matter but found it funny that at top-10 recruiting class doesn't earn an "A" rating.

[SemajParlor]

Here's CBS. They don't love us as much (#25), BUT they have Trevon listed as "Expected to Return". True or not, I just like seeing it in print!

http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/after-uncs-national-championship-heres-an-early-look-at-next-seasons-top-25-and-1/

I can't tell if my pessimism is taking over or if these national writers are just not following what's going on. I hate that my projection of 2% chance he returns has rose to 5% chance he returns over the course of a week.

[Ohionite_X]

The main takeaway from all of these polls is that there are no consensus top teams. Some teams who are top 5 in one poll aren't even top 10 in others. Each poll has a different number 1. Indicates to me that the field will be wide open next season especially if the freshman class ends up being a little weaker than normal as is being predicted.

The stars are aligning, we just need Tre to come back..

[XUMIOH12]

Interesting that our top-10 recruiting class is only graded a "B+". Louisville's top 10 class is rated an "A". Scout has us #8, Lville #10. Rivals has X #9, Lville #7.

Doesn't really matter but found it funny that at top-10 recruiting class doesn't earn an "A" rating.

That's because it is USA Today just giving a subjective grade to the teams' recruiting classes, they aren't basing it off of any other class rankings. Louisville has a 5* and three 4*s. If you were to just take a glance at Xavier's recruiting class on rivals you would see two 4*s and three 3*s, which probably warrants a B+ grade. But that is just by taking a quick look to write an article.

[THRILLHOUSE]

UC is going to be a hell of a lot better than #24. They lost an above average PG and a lousy shooting guard. They have a solid transfer PG coming in and a ton of talent returning. I see another 30 win season for them.

And another 2nd round loss out West. (But I do agree uc should be pretty good next year.)

[GoMuskies]

Jon Wilner has us as part of "Others Considered". In other words, he expects us to sneak up on people.

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/04/03/college-hotline-ridiculously-early-top-25-for-the-2017-18-basketball-season-louisville-is-no-1-for-now/

[bleedXblue]

Their transfer PG is unproven against actual competition. He padded his stats taking basically every shot for his crappy school against crappy opponents. If you look at the very few OOC games he played against bigger schools he was basically invisible. Troy was a pretty good PG in regards to assist/TO ratio and managing the game. The new guy looks like he turns the ball over a lot more than Troy ever did.

Good/bad or just plain average PG, they will be damn good next year.

[GoMuskies]

Good/bad or just plain average PG, they will be damn good next year.

Luckily, Mick Cronin will still coach them. That certainly limits their ceiling.

[GIMMFD]

Jon Wilner has us as part of "Others Considered". In other words, he expects us to sneak up on people.

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/04/03/college-hotline-ridiculously-early-top-25-for-the-2017-18-basketball-season-louisville-is-no-1-for-now/

Just by reading that statement, I'm going to say his poll is garbage, and he knows nothing.

[X-man]

Jon Wilner has us as part of "Others Considered". In other words, he expects us to sneak up on people.

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/04/03/college-hotline-ridiculously-early-top-25-for-the-2017-18-basketball-season-louisville-is-no-1-for-now/

Wilner is an idiot. He consistently ranks as one of the worst pollsters in the Poll Tracker ratings every week.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Luckily, Mick Cronin will still coach them. That certainly limits their ceiling.

AKA the ceiling is not the roof.

[xu82]

Luckily, Mick Cronin will still coach them. That certainly limits their ceiling.


I hope they are good enough to be a high quality win for us next year.

[Muskie]

X is at 80/1 Odds to win the Championship next year.

[xu82]

X is at 80/1 Odds to win the Championship next year.

I have no context here....what were we last year? Any idea? What would a UNC or Kentucky be?

[GoMuskies]

We were 500-1 in March during the Big East Tournament.

[xu82]

We were 500-1 in March during the Big East Tournament.

WOW, ok, that tells me something.

[gladdenguy]

Wilner is an idiot. He consistently ranks as one of the worst pollsters in the Poll Tracker ratings every week.

I don't know much about him, but yes, from looking at his poll, he looks to be an idiot.

[94GRAD]

We were 30-1 last year after the Championship game.

[MarvAlbert]

I have no context here....what were we last year? Any idea? What would a UNC or Kentucky be?

I know we were 75-1 on Bovada after making the sweet 16...put $3 on us, Michigan (cuz of the streak/plane and all) and UNC...turned a $6 profit!

[xu82]

I know we were 75-1 on Bovada after making the sweet 16...put $3 on us, Michigan (cuz of the streak/plane and all) and UNC...turned a $6 profit!

You're rich!

We were 75-1 after making Sweet 16, and 80-1 against the entire field? That seems a bit odd.

[blueblob06]

You're rich!

We were 75-1 after making Sweet 16, and 80-1 against the entire field? That seems a bit odd.

I think that was because when it was down to 16, our path had to go through Arizona and Gonzaga (both had very good odds versus the field to win it all) and had to do with the remaining strong teams in the field (i.e. UNC, Kansas, Oregon, etc.).

[GIMMFD]

I'll tell you something, those Vegas odds makers are geniuses, they calculate their lines out almost perfectly in order to make sure they don't lose big