Trevon and the Draft (STAYING AT X)

[smileyy]

It's honestly criminal that Dudley only shot 88 if he was shooting them at that clip in college.

Right? I'm sure they would have been capable of getting him more good 3-point attempts if they prioritized them.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

That would strike me as naive on Tre's part. You may be right, but I would be surprised if that was the case.

He could have gotten even a second round guarantee and told not to do anymore workouts. This happens, my co-worker's nephew is in the draft process right now and may/may not get picked in the second round.

[sirthought]

Dudley is 6'7" but here's the main difference between him and Bluiett.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJo9aDjEZDs

[D-West & PO-Z]

Right? I'm sure they would have been capable of getting him more good 3-point attempts if they prioritized them.

Well he was ACC POY so he was definitely a priority but apparently not 3 point shooting wise.

[casualfan]

He's coming back. HUGE NEWS

[MarkGormley]

Per Rothstein

https://twitter.com/jonrothstein/status/867154720221270016

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[sirthought]

He's back! (http://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/2017/5/23/15676244/nba-draft-2017-trevon-bluiett-xavier-musketeers-senior-season?utm_campaign=bigeastcoastbias&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter)

[X-Men]

He's back! (http://www.bigeastcoastbias.com/2017/5/23/15676244/nba-draft-2017-trevon-bluiett-xavier-musketeers-senior-season?utm_campaign=bigeastcoastbias&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter)

Yes!!! Final Four baby!

[THRILLHOUSE]

sorry to buzzkill, but Rick says not so fast:

@musketeerreport
Per very good sources at Xavier, Trevon Bluiett's decision has not been made yet. Or if it has, Xavier has not been made aware of it.

[THRILLHOUSE]

But now chris mack has tweeted a smiley face

https://twitter.com/CoachChrisMack/status/867157631756111876

[casualfan]

sorry to buzzkill, but Rick says not so fast:

@musketeerreport
Per very good sources at Xavier, Trevon Bluiett's decision has not been made yet. Or if it has, Xavier has not been made aware of it.

Mack just all but confirmed it.

[xeus]

sorry to buzzkill, but Rick says not so fast:

@musketeerreport
Per very good sources at Xavier, Trevon Bluiett's decision has not been made yet. Or if it has, Xavier has not been made aware of it.

Of course Rick says that. He was scooped and wants to keep the ball in the air.

[THRILLHOUSE]

Mack just all but confirmed it.

Yeah. And his buddy Goodman officially confirmed:

Xavier coach Chris Mack told ESPN that Trevon Bluiett is withdrawing from draft and returning to school. http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0658811375061046677-4 …

[casualfan]

Of course Rick says that. He was scooped and wants to keep the ball in the air.

scooped by Rothstein no less.

[THRILLHOUSE]

and Tre officially confirms:

https://twitter.com/TrevonBluiett/status/867158689077186561

[xufan2434]

Letsssss goooooooooooooooo

[BMoreX]

Lets gooooooooooo

[markchal]

I know we have a 28 page thread of the will he/won't he, but now that he's confirmed for Team96, time to turn the discussion to what this team will be capable of and where Tre might finish among the great careers we've seen.

[sirthought]

I know we have a 28 page thread of the will he/won't he, but now that he's confirmed for Team96, time to turn the discussion to what this team will be capable of and where Tre might finish among the great careers we've seen.

I'd say he'll end up top three in school history. This season has the chance to be something really special.

[THRILLHOUSE]

I know we have a 28 page thread of the will he/won't he,

Only 7 pages if y'all would just go to your settings and change the amount of replies that appear on a page.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Legend! We will be watching the next player to have their jersey retired.

I think he will end up 2nd on all time scoring list.

[SemajParlor]

I know we have a 28 page thread of the will he/won't he, but now that he's confirmed for Team96, time to turn the discussion to what this team will be capable of and where Tre might finish among the great careers we've seen.

Considering I couldn't be more wrong in my previous predictions about this and look like a fool - I second this motion. What a day for Xavier Basketball!

[xufan2434]

Big East is going to be an absolute DOG FIGHT next year

[smileyy]

Legend! We will be watching the next player to have their jersey retired.

I think he will end of 2nd on all time scoring list.

If he scores as many points as he did last year, he'll pass David West's 2132.

And if he averages 31ppg across 36 games, he'll pass Larkin. So, um, Byron's safe.

[BMoreX]

I guess putting on my 2010 X shirt after getting home from work tonight was good luck!

[XfansinKy]

Final 4 or bust

[Masterofreality]

Ohhhhh...........Hell...........YEAH!!

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Wow, I am happily surprised. Next year is going to be fun, is it November yet?

[X Factor]

AWESOME!! Next year is going to be fun boys!! Were you there, did you hear?

[D-West & PO-Z]

AWESOME!! Next year is going to be fun boys!! Were you there, did you hear?

I was. And I did!

[Xville]

Awesome news...expectations just sky rocketed for next year. Final four or bust

[GIMMFD]

Shit yourselves Big East opponents, it's on. Let's RIDEEEE

[AviatorX]

Of course Rick says that. He was scooped and wants to keep the ball in the air.

Your disdain for Rick is a nice addition to this thread. If you follow him on Twitter for 5 mins it's pretty obvious he doesn't take himself seriously enough to do something like that because he was scooped.

[coasterville95]

This is surely a "Were you there?, Did You Hear?" Caliber moment in the programs history.

Come on November, let's get this thing started.

Brick wall to run through?

All giddy with excitement now.

[sirthought]

nah

[GIMMFD]

This is surely a "Were you there?, Did You Hear?" Caliber moment in the programs history.

Come on November, let's get this thing started.

Brick wall to run through?

All giddy with excitement now.

Seriously, I'm ready for basketball season to start now, Trevon and JP have some unfinished business, I'm so damn giddy with excitement. Great to have Tre as our Senior Leader

[kellernr]

Big East is going to be an absolute DOG FIGHT next year
Yeah it will. It's going to be a fun season. Is it November yet?

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[kellernr]

I guess putting on my 2010 X shirt after getting home from work tonight was good luck!
I wore my X golf shirt to work today hoping he would announce his return.

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[Burkitt's07]

I decided to celebrate by finally joining this board! Welcome back Tre! It's a great day to be a Xavier fan! I select tomorrow and may now have to upgrade.

[mid major]

I wore my X hat to the Cincinnati Zoo today so I'll take partial credit for Tre's decision to return to our fine institution for his senior year.

[xufan2434]

Seriously, I'm ready for basketball season to start now, Trevon and JP have some unfinished business, I'm so damn giddy with excitement. Great to have Tre as our Senior Leader

Whole team was really clicking in March last year, but you could really tell once they got in the tournament Tre and JP were on another level together and knew they had to lead it. Remember saying after the Zaga game it was gonna be sad not to see them play together again. Now X's arguably best recruiting class (at the time) gets to lead as seniors as the new best in school history comes in. Really something special for the program

[Snipe]

WOO HOO!

Who is getting drunk tonight!

Drinks are on me!

Stop the Final Four talk. I wanna win it all. Cut down the nets!

Trevon with a magical season could go down as the Greatest Muskie to ever don the Blue and White.

[GreatWhiteNorth]

HE'LL BE BACK!
What fantastic news. This team is going to be loaded. We can stop worrying about not having enough scorers. Thanks, Tre.

[JTG]

HE'LL BE BACK!
What fantastic news. This team is going to be loaded. We can stop worrying about not having enough scorers. Thanks, Tre.

Now we just have to worry about having enough basketballs for all the talent. But that's a great problem to have.

[xeus]

Your disdain for Rick is a nice addition to this thread. If you follow him on Twitter for 5 mins it's pretty obvious he doesn't take himself seriously enough to do something like that because he was scooped.

Thanks for your feedback.

[xeus]

I wore my X hat to the Cincinnati Zoo today so I'll take partial credit for Tre's decision to return to our fine institution for his senior year.

I heard (reputable source) that he returned to X in honor of Harambe.

[AviatorX]

Thanks for your feedback.

No problem! Please continue doing your thing.

[X Factor]

Starting lineup?

PG - Goodin
SG - Scruggs
SF - JP
PF - Trevon
C - O'Mara

or

PG - Goodin
SG - JP
SF - Tre
PF - Kaiser
C - Tyrique

[AviatorX]

Starting lineup?

PG - Goodin
SG - Scruggs
SF - JP
PF - Trevon
C - O'Mara

or

PG - Goodin
SG - JP
SF - Tre
PF - Kaiser
C - Tyrique

Salivating at the thought of Q and Scruggs collapsing the defense and kicking it out to Tre and JP. Kaiser and Marshall will offer huge flexibility off the bench. No idea who will start between Tyrique and O'Mara, have to imagine Mack will ride the hot hand like he did last season with Kanter also in the mix. Haven't even touched on a bucket getter in Harden or a sharpshooting Ridder. Wow.

Edit: I really can't wait to see the leap Q makes. If he starts getting those layups to go down he is going to really open things up. Not to mention his defensive potential.

[Juice]

Starting lineup?

PG - Goodin
SG - Scruggs
SF - JP
PF - Trevon
C - O'Mara

or

PG - Goodin
SG - JP
SF - Tre
PF - Kaiser
C - Tyrique

Team A but with O'Mara/Tyrique at center.

[xeus]

Not sure Scruggs will start early. I see something closer to Option B, at least into December.

[Snipe]

Is it Beer Thirty? Somebody want to challenge me to a shot of cheap rum?

I like the thought of starting Tyrique and letting him mature on the court and learn to keep the fouls down. He is still going to be an underclassman and a bit raw, but I loved what I saw of him last year.

Goodin
JP
Tre
Tyrique
Irish

I would love to start out games trying to work the ball inside with some post men. We don't have to stay in the lineup a majority of the time. Also puts three four year seniors on the court at the tip.

We have some talent, so I expect Mack to have a number of lineups.

Give me a lineup when we want to go small.

Give me a lineup when we want to half court trap.

Give me a lineup when we want to full court press.

And somebody drink with me. I am thirsty.

[Strange Brew]

In the wise words of Mersh (Jake Busey), "Haha, marvelous".

[TUclutch]

Your disdain for Rick is a nice addition to this thread. If you follow him on Twitter for 5 mins it's pretty obvious he doesn't take himself seriously enough to do something like that because he was scooped.

Wrong. Rick is a baby about a lot of things. I know several people who have been blocked by him for virtually no reason.

[waggy]

Tre looked good in workouts. I think he's a NBA 1st rounder next year.

[muskiefan82]

If he scores as many points as he did last year, he'll pass David West's 2132.

And if he averages 31ppg across 36 games, he'll pass Larkin. So, um, Byron's safe.

How many does he need over 40 games?

[mid major]

https://youtu.be/pqE66RltUaQ

[GIMMFD]

How many does he need over 40 games?

27.9ppg... BUT if he gets to that 40th, and wins that 40th, his steel balls with the addition of his wingman JP Macura will be #1 in my heart and eyes forever. Regardless of where he shows up on that damn scoring list.

[drudy23]

Now we just have to worry about having enough basketballs for all the talent. But that's a great problem to have.

Not really...this is Tre's team. I think he realized late last year that he WANTS the ball in his hands in crunch time. Multiple offensive weapons around him AND a guy that can be an assassin at crunch time. That's ideal.

[ammtd34]

Rick and Snow have known plenty of things before they were announced - namely Paul Scruggs coming to Xavier - that they aren't ever going to announce themselves. They'd lose credibility with recruits and their Xavier sources.

When they get "scooped," it's often something that they had to sit on.

[xukeith]

Of course Rick says that. He was scooped and wants to keep the ball in the air.

For some unknown reason Musketeer Report banned me from reading his tweets. I take it as a badge of honor.

[xukeith]

HE'LL BE BACK!
What fantastic news. This team is going to be loaded. We can stop worrying about not having enough scorers. Thanks, Tre.

David West's senior season (15-1 in A10) was amazing.

[paulxu]

I have dreams about this group with Sumner. Man.

[Xville]

David West's senior season (15-1 in A10) was amazing.

If next year ends the same way that wests senior year did, it will be a complete failure in my opinion.

[GIMMFD]

Not really...this is Tre's team. I think he realized late last year that he WANTS the ball in his hands in crunch time. Multiple offensive weapons around him AND a guy that can be an assassin at crunch time. That's ideal.

His tournament performance was damn impressive, throughout all of the games he consistently took big shots, and made big plays. You're born with the killer instinct, and I think you're right, I think Trevon realized he has the killer instinct.

[SemajParlor]

I have dreams about this group with Sumner. Man.

Well as much as we love Ed, I'm looking forward to Q and Scruggs.

[paulxu]

Agree.

[smileyy]

If next year ends the same way that wests senior year did, it will be a complete failure in my opinion.

Enjoy the ride.

[Ohionite_X]

Well as much as we love Ed, I'm looking forward to Q and Scruggs.

Completely agree. Ed was an incredible play maker and scorer but Q and Scruggs are more in the traditional PG mold. These guys both have elite level court awareness and assisting abilities which I think will result in a smoother offensive flow than when Ed was running the team. Not to mention their defensive abilities.

[smileyy]

I'm sure Q can dunk on a UC (not-actually-a-)chump too.

Q at the point and Ed playing more off the ball would have been something to see.

[mistabeecee41]

Tre looked good in workouts. I think he's a NBA 1st rounder next year.

it's pretty simple. If Tre can become more consistent and turn himself from a great shooter into an elite shooter - he has a chance. 37% isn't going to blow anybody away. If he can get that into the 40-45% range, he has a shot. 1st round? I doubt it. 2nd round? Sure.

Teams know what Tre is at this point. If a team is going to use a draft pick on a guy that they value as a shooter, he better be an elite one. Here are some "senior shooters" who got drafted mainly because to their shooting potential.

Korver : 48%
Steve Novak : 47%
McBuckets : 45%
McCollum : 51%
Jake Layman : 41%
Pat Cannaughton : 42%
John Jenkins : 44%
Joe Harris : 40%

[smileyy]

I'd be curious to know how many of Tre's 3's were assisted, and how many were off the dribble. The more of the former he gets (and I'm guessing its quite a few), the higher % he's going to shoot.

For example, Tu's 3P% was suppressed due to the number of 3's he took off the dribble, making him look like a "worse" skilled shooter than he actually was.

[GIMMFD]

I'd be curious to know how many of Tre's 3's were assisted, and how many were off the dribble. The more of the former he gets (and I'm guessing its quite a few), the higher % he's going to shoot.

For example, Tu's 3P% was suppressed due to the number of 3's he took off the dribble, making him look like a "worse" skilled shooter than he actually was.

True, but I also would assume that scouts that come to games would factor this into their report when giving it to their organization, and if not that's just silly. Tre definitely shoots a ton off the dribble, but he's very crafty in creating his shot like that so it works for him.

[Muskeagle]

it's pretty simple. If Tre can become more consistent and turn himself from a great shooter into an elite shooter - he has a chance. 37% isn't going to blow anybody away. If he can get that into the 40-45% range, he has a shot. 1st round? I doubt it. 2nd round? Sure.

Teams know what Tre is at this point. If a team is going to use a draft pick on a guy that they value as a shooter, he better be an elite one. Here are some "senior shooters" who got drafted mainly because to their shooting potential.

Korver : 48%
Steve Novak : 47%
McBuckets : 45%
McCollum : 51%
Jake Layman : 41%
Pat Cannaughton : 42%
John Jenkins : 44%
Joe Harris : 40%

51%? Day-um!

[drudy23]

Most of Tre's 3's are off the pass...most of his 2's are off the dribble.

[THRILLHOUSE]

it's pretty simple. If Tre can become more consistent and turn himself from a great shooter into an elite shooter - he has a chance. 37% isn't going to blow anybody away. If he can get that into the 40-45% range, he has a shot. 1st round? I doubt it. 2nd round? Sure.

Teams know what Tre is at this point. If a team is going to use a draft pick on a guy that they value as a shooter, he better be an elite one. Here are some "senior shooters" who got drafted mainly because to their shooting potential.

Korver : 48%
Steve Novak : 47%
McBuckets : 45%
McCollum : 51%
Jake Layman : 41%
Pat Cannaughton : 42%
John Jenkins : 44%
Joe Harris : 40%

How dare you not list the man, the myth, the legend - JARED DUDLEY

[xufan2434]

51%? Day-um!

McCollum put up stupid numbers that year. 51% is absurd. I don't care who it's against

[Ohionite_X]

McCollum put up stupid numbers that year. 51% is absurd. I don't care who it's against

Didn't he get hurt and only play like 10 games his senior year? That's still a nice clip in a 10 game span though..

Also, 0-6 from 3pt range against Xavier as a junior!

[X-Fan]

Trevon comes in at 17 in this list of Top 25 players next year: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/19445380/grayson-allen-again-leads-list-top-25-players-college-basketball

[paulxu]

More from the archives of great editing:


16hJohn Gasaway
College basketball's top 25 players for 2017-18

Xavier fans hope to see Trevon Bluiett's talents throughout a full season after he was sidelined last January with a torn ACL.

[GIMMFD]

Trevon comes in at 17 in this list of Top 25 players next year: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/19445380/grayson-allen-again-leads-list-top-25-players-college-basketball

Honestly 17 isn't bad at all, typical Grayson Allen is first, over under on how many games before we get the first "controversial" Allen moment?

[SemajParlor]

Grayson Allen being 1 is criminal.

[xukeith]

Honestly 17 isn't bad at all, typical Grayson Allen is first, over under on how many games before we get the first "controversial" Allen moment?

Three Duke players in Top 20.

[xu82]

Grayson Allen being 1 is criminal.

I'd be pissed if my team took that nut case #1.

[Wheelhouse]

McCollum put up stupid numbers that year. 51% is absurd. I don't care who it's against

Lehigh's finest!

[DWXU23]

Those types of lists are obviously very difficult but that list is especially terrible. Happ, Colson, and Brunson over Bridges seems crazy.

[X-ceptional]

Rothstein Files | Trevon Bluiett in line to be next year’s Josh Hart (https://www.fanragsports.com/cbb/rothstein-files-trevon-bluiett-line-next-years-josh-hart/amp/)


Twelve months ago Hart opted to return to Villanova instead of leaving school early for the NBA Draft. Now Bluiett is doing the exact same thing for Xavier.

Like Hart, Bluiett is expected to be the Big East Preseason Player of the Year entering next season, returning to a team that has several key pieces back from last season’s squad that reached the Elite Eight and lost to Gonzaga.

The 6-6 wing averaged 18.5 points and 5.7 rebounds last season as a junior, all while making 91 shots from long distance. Bluiett also scored 25 points in the Musketeers’ Sweet 16 upset of Arizona.

It will be interesting to see if Chris Mack uses the Indianapolis native as a skilled four-man rather than a traditional small forward, given Bluiett’s ability to create mismatches on offense.

If he mans the “four,” Xavier will need another perimeter player, potentially either Paul Scruggs or Naji Marshall (both top-100 freshmen) to be consistent enough to earn regular minutes alongside veterans Quentin Goodin and J.P. Macura.

[xufan2434]

Those lists are always hard to make, especially because 5-20 could be argued back and forth all day.

But having Kelan Martin over Trevon at this point is mind blowing to me. Kelan has shown he can be great.. but he also been benched numerous times. I don't think consistently he's been close to Tre. And not to mention the performance Tre put on in March, including a game winner over Butler.

I've thought about the Josh Hart comparison before when coming back. Think Tre could be that for X. He'll be the leader from Day 1 along with JP. Was really cool to see him embrace that role after Ed went down and want the ball down the stretch. That experience is going to be huge heading into a senior year

[THRILLHOUSE]

But having Kelan Martin over Trevon at this point is mind blowing to me. Kelan has shown he can be great.. but he also been benched numerous times. I don't think consistently he's been close to Tre. And not to mention the performance Tre put on in March, including a game winner over Butler.



Martin over Bluiett and Delgado is absolutely stupid. Along with Grayson being #1. (I certainly don't think Grayson is a bad player, but best in the nation? Child please. ESPN definitely click baiting with that pick.)

[MuskieXU]

I dont think Grayson at #1 is an indefensible pick. He's probably one of 5-6 players who have an argument to be there. He had a bad year in 2016 but a lot of that was attributable to being forced to play the point. Now that Duke has a pure PG he should get closer to his 2015 numbers which were as good as anyone in the nation.

I definitely wouldnt put Shamet, Duval, Martin, or any freshman over TB though. Bluiett willed his team to an elite 8 last season, putting freshman above him is totally discounting the experience that comes with 3 years of college play.

[GoMuskies]

Shamet's a stud....but so is everyone on the list. I think it's pretty difficult to differentiate most of the guys on the list after the first 5 or so. They're all damn good.

[Muskeagle]

Rothstein Files | Trevon Bluiett in line to be next year’s Josh Hart (https://www.fanragsports.com/cbb/rothstein-files-trevon-bluiett-line-next-years-josh-hart/amp/)

I don't know. Does Trevon even have the talent to play at the big east level?

[bleedXblue]

Grayson Allen being 1 is criminal.

exactly....nice player, but the best in the nation. NFW !

[GIMMFD]

I don't know. Does Trevon even have the talent to play at the big east level?

No, he's not athletic enough.

[bobandtim]

Sure glad he plays for Xavier.....Trevon would start on every team in the Big East....great college player!!

[GreatWhiteNorth]

Just look at his stats and experience.......any D1 team would love to have him in its starting lineup.

[MuskieXU]

Sure glad he plays for Xavier.....Trevon would start on every team in the Big East....great college player!!

Sean Kilpatrick disagrees.

[Muskie]

Sean Kilpatrick disagrees.

Who?

[ammtd34]

Who?

Yeah, I don't even know who that is.

[atljar]

Yeah, I don't even know who that is.

Never heard of him either

[JTG]

Sean Kilpatrick disagrees.

Always obsession with that team across town. Who cares what they think.

[GIMMFD]

Sean Kilpatrick disagrees.

Who's that guy???

[stammina0721]

Sean Kilpatrick disagrees.

Why do we care what a Scottish guy thinks lol

[STL_XUfan]

Yeah, I don't even know who that is.

Google doesn't even know who he is

http://spillanewebdesign.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/kilpatrick.jpg