List of Transfers Who Are Available

[Muskie]

Link (http://verbalcommits.com/transfers/2017)

If you want to look through the guys immediately available, go to the Verbal Commits link below, scroll down to the complete transfer list and then click the arrow to sort by immediately eligible. Some interesting names.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Mark Donnal from Michigan is not a bad player at all. He was most likely recruited over. Nothing on there that is overly exciting. Bhullar's brother is leaving NMSU.

[stammina0721]

With Ed gone and bringing in Scruggs I'd love to see us pursue Vance Jackson real hard

[Muskie]

Mark Donnal from Michigan is not a bad player at all. He was most likely recruited over. Nothing on there that is overly exciting. Bhullar's brother is leaving NMSU. I was going to ask about Dan Dakich's son out of Michigan, but I thought it might make MOR's head explode.

[casualfan]

With Ed gone and bringing in Scruggs I'd love to see us pursue Vance Jackson real hard

My guess is he ends up closer to home. I have no inside info there, but I follow the transfer market pretty closely every year and it seems like if guys go far away from home initially when they transfer they almost always look to get back closer to home.

[stammina0721]

Could also see us making a run at Allerik Freeman from Baylor since we recruited him in the past

[stammina0721]

My guess is he ends up closer to home. I have no inside info there, but I follow the transfer market pretty closely every year and it seems like if guys go far away from home initially when they transfer they almost always look to get back closer to home.

Your probably right

[stammina0721]

My guess is he ends up closer to home. I have no inside info there, but I follow the transfer market pretty closely every year and it seems like if guys go far away from home initially when they transfer they almost always look to get back closer to home.

Although aren't we technically closer to home for him haha

[stammina0721]

Could also see us making a run at Allerik Freeman from Baylor since we recruited him in the past

This makes sense though. He gives us the veteran 2 who has big conference experience, he knows our staff and he can advance deep in the tournament. This allows us to put Tre at the 4 if he comes back

[GoMuskies]

Malik Ellison is leaving St. John's. That's a bad deal for St. John's.

[casualfan]

This makes sense though. He gives us the veteran 2 who has big conference experience, he knows our staff and he can advance deep in the tournament. This allows us to put Tre at the 4 if he comes back

He is the dream scenario for us.

The issue is going to be that he might end up being the most sought after transfer on the market.

Not saying we have no shot, but there will be a LONG line for that one.

[casualfan]

Malik Ellison is leaving St. John's. That's a bad deal for St. John's.

The sooner they implode, Mullin gets fired, and they can hire a real coach the better.

[GoMuskies]

The sooner they implode, Mullin gets fired, and they can hire a real coach the better.

I thought they looked like they were headed in the right direction last year and Mullin might get the job done. This is not a good development for him (and them).

[casualfan]

I thought they looked like they were headed in the right direction last year and Mullin might get the job done. This is not a good development for him (and them).

With the amount of talent they have on that roster there is no excuse for being under .500 in the OOC portion of the schedule.

They play 0 defense and if it wasn't for Ponds and Lovett their offense would be a mess.

I just don't see the plan there.

[Muskie]

With the amount of talent they have on that roster there is no excuse for being under .500 in the OOC portion of the schedule.

They play 0 defense and if it wasn't for Ponds and Lovett their offense would be a mess.

I just don't see the plan there. Their offense is a mess because Ponds and Lovett just shoot whenever they feel like it, wherever they are on the court.

[casualfan]

Their offense is a mess because Ponds and Lovett just shoot whenever they feel like it, wherever they are on the court.

From everyone I have talked to that is Mullins plan.

He wants to run NBA style offense which is heavy ISO stuff.

The problem is, unless you're one of two or three schools you don't have the personnel to run that.

The only reason they score is because those two guys can make really tough shots.

[Muskie]

From everyone I have talked to that is Mullins plan.

He wants to run NBA style offense which is heavy ISO stuff.

The problem is, unless you're one of two or three schools you don't have the personnel to run that.

The only reason they score is because those two guys can make really tough shots. That could very well be. All i know is that the support for St. John's is there is they are competitive. The Gardens was rocking in the Big East Tourney when they played GTown, and the place was half full.

[casualfan]

That could very well be. All i know is that the support for St. John's is there is they are competitive. The Gardens was rocking in the Big East Tourney when they played GTown, and the place was half full.

There is a reason those guys played 32 and 33 minutes per game despite taking a bunch of awful shots.

I know they are really talented, but at some point if they're not running the offense you want you have to make them earn their PT and sit them down.

That never happened.

[AviatorX]

From everyone I have talked to that is Mullins plan.

He wants to run NBA style offense which is heavy ISO stuff.

The problem is, unless you're one of two or three schools you don't have the personnel to run that.

The only reason they score is because those two guys can make really tough shots.

He also was running NBA style defense with a heavy reliance on rim protection (they do have some guys who can do that) over help defense and clogging the lane. Didn't work out so well.

[GetUp5]

Al Freeman would be an enormous get for us.

[casualfan]

He also was running NBA style defense with a heavy reliance on rim protection (they do have some guys who can do that) over help defense and clogging the lane. Didn't work out so well.

They ran a defense? :biggrin:

[drudy23]

We are talking about Brooklyn Chris Mullin...he probably loves the way they play. That's how he played.

[casualfan]

We are talking about Brooklyn Chris Mullin...he probably loves the way they play. That's how he played.

He does love the way they play.

That's why in the post that started this convo I said the sooner they hit rock bottom and he gets fired the better.

[AviatorX]

They ran a defense? :biggrin:

Allegedly.

[waggy]

Hey Casual, really missed you during the run.

[xufan02]

Al Freeman would be an enormous get for us.

Freeman is extremely unlikely to happen. I'm not so certain Xavier is going to go after a 5th year guy, but will likely target a transfer big

[GIMMFD]

Freeman is extremely unlikely to happen. I'm not so certain Xavier is going to go after a 5th year guy, but will likely target a transfer big

Yeah but Freeman shot 3's at a 39% clip, he'd be nice to have on a team full of slashers more than shooters to be honest. I think if we have a chance, we should grab him. And he would have a year left.

[xu82]

Yeah but Freeman shot 3's at a 39% clip, he'd be nice to have on a team full of slashers more than shooters to be honest. I think if we have a chance, we should grab him. And he would have a year left.

Exactly, you give this a shot. If we have a 39% (or 3.9%) chance to get an experienced 39% shooter, go all in! It's probably what we need most next year. If it doesn't work out? Nothing lost...

[xufan02]

Exactly, you give this a shot. If we have a 39% (or 3.9%) chance to get an experienced 39% shooter, go all in! It's probably what we need most next year. If it doesn't work out? Nothing lost...

This is not going to happen. It was Xavier and Baylor at the very end of his original recruitment and he went to Baylor for specific reasons. Xavier didn't play the game the first go round so I doubt they have any interest in kicking the tires on this one.

[xu82]

This is not going to happen. It was Xavier and Baylor at the very end of his original recruitment and he went to Baylor for specific reasons. Xavier didn't play the game the first go round so I doubt they have any interest in kicking the tires on this one.

Probably not, of course. But unless there is some reason to NOT try to make the team better, you look into it. We could benefit from another shooter. They did have a relationship. If he's a problem of some sort, that's one thing. Short of that....why not kick the tires?

[Juice]

Freeman is extremely unlikely to happen. I'm not so certain Xavier is going to go after a 5th year guy, but will likely target a transfer big

Besides Ernst? That would put Tyrique, Sean, Ernst, and maybe Kentravious on the roster. That's a lot of bigs on the roster.

[xu82]

Besides Ernst? That would put Tyrique, Sean, Ernst, and maybe Kentravious on the roster. That's a lot of bigs on the roster.

Agreed, a quality shooter makes more sense.

[xavierj]

Besides Ernst? That would put Tyrique, Sean, Ernst, and maybe Kentravious on the roster. That's a lot of bigs on the roster.

Gates is 6'8", Ridder 6'9" and Marshall 6'6". The guards are all 6'4", 6'5". They will be a big athletic team.

[Juice]

Agreed, a quality shooter makes more sense.

I'd take any back court player or wing but yes preferably a shooter. My main concern with next years team is a lack of experience in the back court. Q and JP are back which is an awesome start but our other guards and wings are all freshmen (Naji, Scruggs, Harden). Those guys are talented but inexperienced.

I say all of this assuming Trevon is gone. If he comes back then it's a little bit of a different story.

[xu82]

I'd take any back court player or wing but yes preferably a shooter. My main concern with next years team is a lack of experience in the back court. Q and JP are back which is an awesome start but our other guards and wings are all freshmen (Naji, Scruggs, Harden). Those guys are talented but inexperienced.

I say all of this assuming Trevon is gone. If he comes back then it's a little bit of a different story.

That's why I like the idea of Freeman, though I really know very little about him other than he has experience and he can shoot. So, it's trust Mack time once again. (I'm just assuming Tre is gone and will be selfishly pleased with any surprises.)

[stammina0721]

That's why I like the idea of Freeman, though I really know very little about him other than he has experience and he can shoot. So, it's trust Mack time once again. (I'm just assuming Tre is gone and will be selfishly pleased with any surprises.)

I only mention him cause we were in play for him back in the day. We are bigger now andif Tre is coming back we can offer him to play with a top 25 player and make a serious run. Plus he knows Mack and Co.

[GIMMFD]

I only mention him cause we were in play for him back in the day. We are bigger now andif Tre is coming back we can offer him to play with a top 25 player and make a serious run. Plus he knows Mack and Co.

Bingo. That's why I don't get the "Oh he chose Baylor over us" logic. Like yeah, but that doesn't mean we didn't have redeeming qualities, he found Baylor more attractive, things didn't work out, and he's decided to transfer, I'm sure you look at the other schools on your list and think what if right? He's built relationships, we give it a try. He averaged 9 ppg in 23 minutes, that would be a welcome boost. Plus would make our roster look pretty damn good, I think we're an attractive place right now for a high level transfer.

[xufan02]

You guys keep talking about Freeman incessantly, he is not coming to Xavier. He gave the staff an ultimatum in his original recruitment, and it wasn't about minutes. He was a pay for play recruit. I would be shocked if the staff gets involved.

[XfansinKy]

Gates is 6'8", Ridder 6'9" and Marshall 6'6". The guards are all 6'4", 6'5". They will be a big athletic team.

Yep. If inexperience doesn't hurt too much, all this size and athleticism will be perfect for Big East play. As long as we keep who we got it's going to be a fun year as they get better and better. I hope all that size and athleticism will pay off in March after the younger guys get some tough Big East games under their belt.

[XfansinKy]

247 Sports has Brady Ernst listed as the #8 ranked JUCO prospect. That's good news.

[GIMMFD]

You guys keep talking about Freeman incessantly, he is not coming to Xavier. He gave the staff an ultimatum in his original recruitment, and it wasn't about minutes. He was a pay for play recruit. I would be shocked if the staff gets involved.

Okay and if not Freeman, we have the size and length, I still agree with Xu82 about the shooter concept. I think we need more shooters to compliment this roster. I think we go find an experienced player that could open up as a high level transfer.

[stammina0721]

You guys keep talking about Freeman incessantly, he is not coming to Xavier. He gave the staff an ultimatum in his original recruitment, and it wasn't about minutes. He was a pay for play recruit. I would be shocked if the staff gets involved.

That is awful bold to say about someone that they are requiring payment. Especially for a guy who is not and one and doner

[stammina0721]

Okay and if not Freeman, we have the size and length, I still agree with Xu82 about the shooter concept. I think we need more shooters to compliment this roster. I think we go find an experienced player that could open up as a high level transfer.

Yes. Our best teams had Xavier toughness but also had at least one great shooter. I'm thinking guys like Sato, Crawford, Raymond, Lyons. This is the first team that went as far as they did with no good 3pt shooters. We will have the size and toughness. Now we need a 3 pt. shooter.

[GetUp5]

That is awful bold to say about someone that they are requiring payment. Especially for a guy who is not and one and doner

Eh, happens WAY more than you think...

[xavierj]

Yes. Our best teams had Xavier toughness but also had at least one great shooter. I'm thinking guys like Sato, Crawford, Raymond, Lyons. This is the first team that went as far as they did with no good 3pt shooters. We will have the size and toughness. Now we need a 3 pt. shooter.

Bluiett was 37%, 40% in 15-16, and Bernard 39% this year. Mark Lyons was a career 35%, Romaine Sato 36%, Crawford 38%. Bluiett was and is a good 3 point shooter.

[xu82]

Bluiett was 37%, 40% in 15-16, and Bernard 39% this year. Mark Lyons was a career 35%, Romaine Sato 36%, Crawford 38%. Bluiett was and is a good 3 point shooter.

Agreed, now the question is where will Trevon be shooting next year? I suspect we could benefit from at least one more quality deep shooter.

[MADXSTER]

Always thought Gates was a pretty good three point shooter except for when he first came back from his injury.

[GIMMFD]

Agreed, now the question is where will Trevon be shooting next year? I suspect we could benefit from at least one more quality deep shooter.

100% agree on Blueitt, and even Macura and Gates aren't terrible, it's just they're very streaky, I'd love a consistent knock em down type of guy.

[XUFan09]

100% agree on Blueitt, and even Macura and Gates aren't terrible, it's just they're very streaky, I'd love a consistent knock em down type of guy.

Gates has been generally good since his knee scope became a distance memory, and Macura is in part only streaky because he just takes some dumb threes.

[XfansinKy]

Always thought Gates was a pretty good three point shooter except for when he first came back from his injury.

Yea he could be the 3 point shooter on this team. His height lets him line up and shoot without rushing. He's going to be fun to watch with more minutes. I'm biased but he could be a nationally recognized stretch 4 next year. I enjoy watching Kaiser play as much as any X player.

[stammina0721]

Bluiett was 37%, 40% in 15-16, and Bernard 39% this year. Mark Lyons was a career 35%, Romaine Sato 36%, Crawford 38%. Bluiett was and is a good 3 point shooter.

Were those really the percentages. I stand corrected. Maybe it's the streakiness that threw me off.

[stammina0721]

Yea he could be the 3 point shooter on this team. His height lets him line up and shoot without rushing. He's going to be fun to watch with more minutes. I'm biased but he could be a nationally recognized stretch 4 next year. I enjoy watching Kaiser play as much as any X player.

Kaiser falls in love with the three too much. His drive vs Arizona and a few games when he had 8 boards plus show what he can do. I'd love to see him play inside more and use the three to complement that as opposed to using the ocassional drive to complement his three

[Ohionite_X]

Kaiser falls in love with the three too much. His drive vs Arizona and a few games when he had 8 boards plus show what he can do. I'd love to see him play inside more and use the three to complement that as opposed to using the ocassional drive to complement his three

I think that's exactly what we'll see more of out of Kaiser next season and his game will elevate because of it. He showed driving and finishing ability a few times in both the BE tournament and the NCAA tournament so he's clearly been working on it. I feel like he could also crush it on the mid-range game. Very excited to see what he brings to the table next season.

[casualfan]

This is the guy I'd be after if it were up to me:

http://www.riceowls.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/egor_koulechov_903682.html

[GoMuskies]

This is the guy I'd be after if it were up to me:

http://www.riceowls.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/egor_koulechov_903682.html

He looks great. Unfortunately for him, he was born too late, because he'd have been an absolute STUD for Mike Jarvis at GW.

[XfansinKy]

Kaiser falls in love with the three too much. His drive vs Arizona and a few games when he had 8 boards plus show what he can do. I'd love to see him play inside more and use the three to complement that as opposed to using the ocassional drive to complement his three
Yes that could be the difference in him being a good player that he is or a really good player. He runs the court really good for a big guy and he defends the perimeter like a guard. I enjoy watching him play as much as anybody. His two handed dunk in the tournament was nice.

[bobbiemcgee]

This is the guy I'd be after if it were up to me:

http://www.riceowls.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/egor_koulechov_903682.html

Wow. Impressive stats, but doubt we could give him the minutes he's used to:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/66324/egor-koulechov

[GIMMFD]

This is the guy I'd be after if it were up to me:

http://www.riceowls.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/egor_koulechov_903682.html

Could have called him the "BIG RED SCARE"

[xu82]

Could have called him the "BIG RED SCARE"

Is that something penicillin can clear up?

[GIMMFD]

Is that something penicillin can clear up?

Ceftriaxone is the one to treat your gonorrhea there bud ;)

[xu82]

Ceftriaxone is the one to treat your gonorrhea there bud ;)

I'll keep that in mind, and trust you spelled all that right! Don''t want to lose points over spelling.


Oh, and I'll pray I never need that stuff!

[bobbiemcgee]

Could have called him the "BIG RED SCARE"

Did he talk to Flynn?

[X-ceptional]

From Banners: Xavier interested in Miami (OH) transfer PG Michael Weathers

http://www.bannersontheparkway.com/2017/4/3/15167832/xavier-interested-in-miami-oh-transfer-pg-michael-weathers-basketball-what-about-quentin-goodin

[GoMuskies]

Never been a big fan of guards who can't shoot. He can't shoot.

[muskiefan82]

It's tough to see what he can do since Miami played NO ONE at all. Their Non-Con was pathetic.

[xu82]

Never been a big fan of guards who can't shoot. He can't shoot.

He can shoot! He's 22% from 3 point land. He just can't make the shots. Again, I'll trust they guys who just took us to the Elite 8. Decent from the FT line though (77%?), so that's nice in a PG.

[bleedXblue]

Not really sure on this one.....seems like we have more pressing needs......

[markchal]

I agree that we need a guard who can shoot the ball more than anything else. Buuuut, if that's not out there, I don't see the problem in taking an insurance guard. Can't have too many PG IMO, especially since Q and Scruggs will see a lot of time, and not sure if Harden is ready for a lot of time at SG, and I assume Naji and JP will be at the 3.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Weathers would have to sit a year.

[mid major]

Weathers would have to sit a year.

Yeah, that's like addition by division.

[Juice]

Evan Daniels‏Verified account @EvanDaniels 2h2 hours ago
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Wright State's Mark Alstork is getting his release and will graduate this summer, he tells Scout. Averaged 19 PPG & 4.7 RPG last season.

[ammtd34]

Evan Daniels‏Verified account @EvanDaniels 2h2 hours ago
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Wright State's Mark Alstork is getting his release and will graduate this summer, he tells Scout. Averaged 19 PPG & 4.7 RPG last season.

If I remember correctly, he was kind of a tweener coming out of high school without a real position. 19 ppg is impressive anywhere, though.

[bobbiemcgee]

85% FT impressive as well:
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/67036/mark-alstork

[GIMMFD]

85% FT impressive as well:
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/67036/mark-alstork

38.7% from 3 as well.. if he graduates he doesn't have to sit out a year, I wouldn't mind us taking a look at him. 6'5 is decent height, could help out with the two spot, only thing that worries me is the 4.3 TO's per game though.

[bigdiggins]

38.7% from 3 as well.. if he graduates he doesn't have to sit out a year, I wouldn't mind us taking a look at him. 6'5 is decent height, could help out with the two spot, only thing that worries me is the 4.3 TO's per game though.

Went up to a few Wright State games. 4.3 TOs, but ball was in his hands to run the offense a lot. No real facilitators on the team outside of him.

[ammtd34]

Went up to a few Wright State games. 4.3 TOs, but ball was in his hands to run the offense a lot. No real facilitators on the team outside of him.

Yep. For comparison, Malcolm averaged 14.4 pts and 3.5 TO in 2015-2016.

[MADXSTER]

Went up to a few Wright State games. 4.3 TOs, but ball was in his hands to run the offense a lot. No real facilitators on the team outside of him.

Is he comparable to Malcolm?

[bigdiggins]

Is he comparable to Malcolm?

Offensively more fluid and assertive although that was expected of his role and Malcolm certainly came on late in the year. He was fairly efficient considering the other team knew to focus on him. Defensively nothing really stood out to me to recall one way or another.

[X Factor]

Alstork is a lot better offensively than Malcolm.

[Ohionite_X]

L. Jason Smith‏Verified account @JasonSmith929

"Letter I just read over the air from Memphis forwards KJ and Dedric Lawson. Both will transfer. Absolute bombshell."


Jeff Borzello‏Verified account @jeffborzello

"The Lawsons went to Memphis once Josh Pastner hired their father as an assistant coach. Still several assistant openings at the BCS level..."

That pretty much ruins Memphis for a few years. Also wonder if Georgetown will take a look at the dad for a few big pickups. Younger brother who is still in high school is the best one of the three supposedly.

[mistabeecee41]

L. Jason Smith‏Verified account @JasonSmith929

"Letter I just read over the air from Memphis forwards KJ and Dedric Lawson. Both will transfer. Absolute bombshell."


Jeff Borzello‏Verified account @jeffborzello

"The Lawsons went to Memphis once Josh Pastner hired their father as an assistant coach. Still several assistant openings at the BCS level..."

That pretty much ruins Memphis for a few years. Also wonder if Georgetown will take a look at the dad for a few big pickups. Younger brother who is still in high school is the best one of the three supposedly.

thought the same thing. Georgetown would make sense for everybody involved, even the dad if he wants another assistants job.

[markchal]

Goodman reporting that Kanter is visiting this weekend. Interesting that we're in the mix there.

[Ohionite_X]

It appears the staff is just trying to fill the remaining scholarship spot with a talented player regardless of position.

[OTRMUSKIE]

My source just told me we got the leading scorer from Miami. I'm assuming Ohio.

[bleedXblue]

Goodman reporting that Kanter is visiting this weekend. Interesting that we're in the mix there.

don't get this with Sean and Tyrique ready for big minutes and the JUCO kid coming in?

[Juice]

My source just told me we got the leading scorer from Miami. I'm assuming Ohio.

Weathers?

[Masterofreality]

don't get this with Sean and Tyrique ready for big minutes and the JUCO kid coming in?

Unless Big Kent may not make grades. Still uncertain.

[Masterofreality]

Is he comparable to Malcolm?

I.......Love......Malcolm......Bernard.

And I don't care who knows it.

[GIMMFD]

My source just told me we got the leading scorer from Miami. I'm assuming Ohio.

Hmm that seems interesting, hopefully he works on his jumpshot and can increase that 22% from the 3 average for us.

[AviatorX]

My source just told me we got the leading scorer from Miami. I'm assuming Ohio.

His name was linked with interest from Xavier. Sounds like a game of broken telephone to me unless this went down really quickly before he visited anywhere.

[bleedXblue]

Unless Big Kent may not make grades. Still uncertain.

No.....the JUCO kid comes in too Brady Ernst

[Olsingledigit]

Didn't realize Weathers is a twin and his 6'5" brother is transferring too.

[XUGRAD80]

Didn't realize Weathers is a twin and his 6'5" brother is transferring too.

Or is HE 6-5, and his identical twin brother is 6-2? International men of mystery! Two for the price of one?


Who writes these lists anyway!?

[jamal4xu]

L. Jason Smith‏Verified account @JasonSmith929

"Letter I just read over the air from Memphis forwards KJ and Dedric Lawson. Both will transfer. Absolute bombshell."


Jeff Borzello‏Verified account @jeffborzello

"The Lawsons went to Memphis once Josh Pastner hired their father as an assistant coach. Still several assistant openings at the BCS level..."

That pretty much ruins Memphis for a few years. Also wonder if Georgetown will take a look at the dad for a few big pickups. Younger brother who is still in high school is the best one of the three supposedly.

These two are the older of four brothers. I believe the rankings had/have them as Top 50, Top 25, Top 25 and Top 10. Their cousin (who plays down the road in Olive Branch, MS) is also Top 10. Local radio here in Memphis (which includes CBS' own Gary Parrish) say the dad is not necessarily part of the package as he is looking to get back into HS coaching. Getting either of the two transfers would be a leg in the door for the other three members of the family.

[Masterofreality]

No.....the JUCO kid comes in too Brady Ernst

I get it, but Brady is more of a stretch 4 or 5 not really a banger down low like Sean or Tyrique....hence....

[bigdiggins]

I get it, but Brady is more of a stretch 4 or 5 not really a banger down low like Sean or Tyrique....hence....

A stretch 4 who took 1 three pointer last season? Out of 146 field goal attempts.

[Masterofreality]

A stretch 4 who took 1 three pointer last season? Out of 146 field goal attempts.

JUCO dude. Not D1.

[Juice]

I get it, but Brady is more of a stretch 4 or 5 not really a banger down low like Sean or Tyrique....hence....

He's absolutely not a stretch 4 or 5.

[Masterofreality]

Quote his JUCO Coach Hank Plona:

"Brady can be the New Age 6:10 do-it-all forward."

"Stretch" doesn't always mean knocking down 3's. It means consistently knocking down 15-20 foot jumpers away from the basket...something that neither Tyrique or Sean can do.

[Juice]

Quote his JUCO Coach Hank Plona:

"Brady can be the New Age 6:10 do-it-all forward."

"Stretch" doesn't always mean knocking down 3's. It means consistently knocking down 15-20 foot jumpers away from the basket...something that neither Tyrique or Sean can do.

Can be* in the words of his coach. But what does he actually do? He took one 3 this past season, and two other jump shots. So 3 jump shots.

He scores the large majority of his points from around the rim.

[AviatorX]

Can be* in the words of his coach. But what does he actually do? He took one 3 this past season, and two other jump shots. So 3 jump shots.

He scores the large majority of his points from around the rim.

The words of a JUCO coach trying to get his guy signed to pay high-major D1 ball.

Agreed that taking 3 jumpers over the course of the season doesn't indicate stretch big man. I mean those could have been at the end of the shot clock for all we know.

[Caveat]

Quote his JUCO Coach Hank Plona:

"Brady can be the New Age 6:10 do-it-all forward."

"Stretch" doesn't always mean knocking down 3's. It means consistently knocking down 15-20 foot jumpers away from the basket...something that neither Tyrique or Sean can do.

TBH, I don't have a ton of interest in guys that specialize in mid-range jumpers. Get to the hoop for a layup, or be able to knock down a 3.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

TBH, I don't have a ton of interest in guys that specialize in mid-range jumpers. Get to the hoop for a layup, or be able to knock down a 3.

Well, David West made an NBA career developing a mid-range jumper. 6'10 guys need to play near the rim, but it pays to have an 8-12 footer.

[XUGRAD80]

Well, David West made an NBA career developing a mid-range jumper. 6'10 guys need to play near the rim, but it pays to have an 8-12 footer.

Very true. A CONSISTENTLY GOOD short jumper can pull the opposing big out away from the rim and open up other players for drives or put backs when the opposition comes out to guard. When they do come out to guard, it opens up drives and positioning. Of course, there are very few "bigs" that have this as part of their game so it's not something we see very often.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

We know Mack is moving to a ton of guards and wings to play with one inside player. I am wondering in Michael Weathers is more of an insurance against Trevon leaving than anything else. I have no idea, I am just speculating. With Trevon, we have 12 guys at the moment.

[muskiefan82]

Weathers would have to sit for a year, though, right?

[GetUp5]

Weathers would have to sit for a year, though, right?

Yes, so him being an insurance policy on Tre is incorrect.

Can we just agree that Ernst's game is a little different than O'Mara/Jones? Also, we'll have a dead scholarship this year (maybe 2 w/ Tre leaving) so why not look at any proven D-1 player, no matter the position.

[X-ceptional]

We know Mack is moving to a ton of guards and wings to play with one inside player. I am wondering in Michael Weathers is more of an insurance against Trevon leaving than anything else. I have no idea, I am just speculating. With Trevon, we have 12 guys at the moment.

Regarding Trevon-leaving-insurance: Weathers would have to sit a year, wouldn't he?


Edit: I'm slow...

[ArizonaXUGrad]

That is correct. At the moment, we have only two PGs. I believe Michael Weathers is a PG correct? Definitely nice to have 3 in case one goes down. At least in 2 years.

[GIMMFD]

Yeah I wouldn't mind a grad transfer to fill up a scholarship spot, if anything it adds depth and insurance. I'm sure Mack & co are looking around.

[Juice]

That is correct. At the moment, we have only two PGs. I believe Michael Weathers is a PG correct? Definitely nice to have 3 in case one goes down. At least in 2 years.

Quentin, Scruggs, Naji can play it, and JP in a pinch.

[Juice]

Yeah I wouldn't mind a grad transfer to fill up a scholarship spot, if anything it adds depth and insurance. I'm sure Mack & co are looking around.

My guess, and this is purely a guess, is that Mack may want to use Ed's open scholarship for a "traditional" transfer. If Tre leaves then use it on a 5th year grad transfer that profiles as a shooter but if he doesn't leave then we don't really need anyone to play right away because we wouldn't have many minutes available regardless.

[sweet6teen]

TBH, I don't have a ton of interest in guys that specialize in mid-range jumpers. Get to the hoop for a layup, or be able to knock down a 3.

Good point. In fact the conventional wisdom now suggests that mid-range jump shots are the worst shots (statistically speaking) in basketball.

[FIGHTING MUSKETEER]

If anything, the injuries and other issues experienced during this past season, underscored the benefits of having versatile players who can play 2 or more positions at a high level. Having someone that could immediately (graduate transfer) do that would be awesome. Not to worry, it looks like the kids that run the basketball program at xavier know their shit. ✌

[markchal]

Weren't we also having trouble running traditional 5-on-5s at practice at one point this season due to injuries and having so few players? I'm all for having a fully stocked roster, even if someone has to sit a year at least they'll be serviceable in practice.

[GIMMFD]

My guess, and this is purely a guess, is that Mack may want to use Ed's open scholarship for a "traditional" transfer. If Tre leaves then use it on a 5th year grad transfer that profiles as a shooter but if he doesn't leave then we don't really need anyone to play right away because we wouldn't have many minutes available regardless.

Hmm that seems like it makes sense to me, I could see the thought process behind that. It's nice that we don't have a GLARING positional need to where we can keep options open.

[Lamont Sanford]

Also, Mack was checking in on Nebraska transfer F Ed Morrow.

[GoMuskies]

My guess, and this is purely a guess, is that Mack may want to use Ed's open scholarship for a "traditional" transfer.

How about Carlton Bragg?

[casualfan]

Eric In Scottsdale‏ @EricNScottsdale 29m29 minutes ago
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Talked today to Ed Morrow's high school coach. Told me Ed is a heavy lean towards Xavier. Has a former AAU friend on the team. #Transfers

[throwbackmuskie]

Morrow and Alstork please

[Ohionite_X]

Took a look at the Nebraska board and they're pretty upset about losing Morrow. Sounds like he has had some injury problems but when healthy he was one of their better players, which isn't saying much but still. Elite rebounder and finisher but can't really shoot the ball. Has the potential to be a great defender but also fouls a lot. I don't think he'd be a starter during either of his two seasons but he'd probably back the 4 and also spot the 3.

That being said, I think he'd be a great add. His improvement from freshman to sophomore year was great and he still only played 24 minutes a game while averaging 9.4 and 7.5. I'd like to think that a year off would get him healthy from whatever his lingering injury is as well.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

How about Carlton Bragg?

No, no, no, that guy is a massive knucklehead. I post on a KU website and most aren't disappointed that he is gone.

[GoMuskies]

Sure, but if he comes here he'd be OUR massive knucklehead.

[birdman71]

No, no, no, that guy is a massive knucklehead. I post on a KU website and most aren't disappointed that he is gone.

I choose to go with our recruiters' opinions of anyone we may recruit as opposed to your opinion based upon the KU website.
''In Mack we trust''!

[sirthought]

Does anyone have actual evidence of who the top targets are for XU at this point?

People are just throwing around names, other than the one tweet on Ed Marrow. (Whose name reminds me of the journalist.)

[X-man]

Does anyone have actual evidence of who the top targets are for XU at this point?

People are just throwing around names, other than the one tweet on Ed Marrow. (Whose name reminds me of the journalist.)

Particularly since I hear his middle name is Ralph.

[xu95]

Does anyone have actual evidence of who the top targets are for XU at this point?

People are just throwing around names, other than the one tweet on Ed Marrow. (Whose name reminds me of the journalist.)

Xavier is going hard after Weathers. I think that is pretty common knowledge at this point. Other than that I would say everything else is speculation, until Xavier gets someone on campus.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

I choose to go with our recruiters' opinions of anyone we may recruit as opposed to your opinion based upon the KU website.
''In Mack we trust''!

Fair disclosure then, the guy was pushed out mainly for off-court issues that included a few run ins with nightmare chicks, campus cops, bongs, and drug use. So yeah, NO NO NO NO.

Edit: The guy doesn't bang down low. He is a poor defender, and really never improved over two years. I watch a lot of ball during the season, and this is a transfer I would avoid. He doesn't fit a one big system either, he needs to play off of a rim defending 5 (surprising since KU has that huge Azubuike next year and likes to play two bigs so he would have fit in).

[GetUp5]

"The 6-foot-7 forward was one of the top players in the class of 2015, checking in at No. 52 nationally on ESPN’s top 100 list and was the highest-rated high school recruit Nebraska has signed in nearly two decades. He was considered a four-star recruit by Rivals and is rated among the nation’s top 150 players by the site."

A year off could help with the injury concerns. Think this would be a huge get for Mack and co.

[Lamont Sanford]

I want Morrow. Weathers would be a nice backup to Q and Scruggs, but wouldn't be my first choice.

[flatspat]

Fair disclosure then, the guy was pushed out mainly for off-court issues that included a few run ins with nightmare chicks, campus cops, bongs, and drug use. So yeah, NO NO NO NO.

Edit: The guy doesn't bang down low. He is a poor defender, and really never improved over two years. I watch a lot of ball during the season, and this is a transfer I would avoid. He doesn't fit a one big system either, he needs to play off of a rim defending 5 (surprising since KU has that huge Azubuike next year and likes to play two bigs so he would have fit in).

ESPN.com says he is from Ohio. Do you happen to know where inOhio?

[Blue Blooded-05]

That is correct. At the moment, we have only two PGs. I believe Michael Weathers is a PG correct? Definitely nice to have 3 in case one goes down. At least in 2 years.


Quentin, Scruggs, Naji can play it, and JP in a pinch.

Myles Davis still has a year of eligibility left!

/entire room hushes in immediate silence. Heads slowly turn with mouths agape in both disbelief and bewilderment/

... I'll let myself out...

[MADXSTER]

McKinley Wright asked out of his LOI from Dayton.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

ESPN.com says he is from Ohio. Do you happen to know where inOhio?

Bragg is a get what you ask for type of recruit. Kid can play, probably doesn't fit the one big system (KU played it without him this year), however, he is a massive headache.

[birdman71]

Fair disclosure then, the guy was pushed out mainly for off-court issues that included a few run ins with nightmare chicks, campus cops, bongs, and drug use. So yeah, NO NO NO NO.

Edit: The guy doesn't bang down low. He is a poor defender, and really never improved over two years. I watch a lot of ball during the season, and this is a transfer I would avoid. He doesn't fit a one big system either, he needs to play off of a rim defending 5 (surprising since KU has that huge Azubuike next year and likes to play two bigs so he would have fit in).


Then I don't think we'd give a guy like that a look.

[Lloyd Braun]

I want Morrow. Weathers would be a nice backup to Q and Scruggs, but wouldn't be my first choice.

I want Morrow too and I have a hunch X will be at it near the top of his list too.

[GoMuskies]

McKinley Wright asked out of his LOI from Dayton.

Heading to IU?

[scoscox]

Morrow looks like another Tyrique Jones type. I like it.

[flatspat]

Any news on the guy from Wright St.?

[GreatWhiteNorth]

McKinley Wright asked out of his LOI from Dayton.

X recruited him before he committed to UD. It does not hurt to look at him again now.

[AviatorX]

Heading to IU?

IU is currently way overbooked (thanks Crean), but never say never I guess.

[principal]

IU is currently way overbooked (thanks Crean), but never say never I guess.

True, but his coach just left for IU.

[AviatorX]

True, but his coach just left for IU.

Right...but IU still has to get to 13, let alone under 13 to be able to add someone. Assuming Archie even wants 13.

[Juice]

X recruited him before he committed to UD. It does hurt to look at him again now.

Except we don't need a PG now. We were probably recruiting him when Scruggs was uncommitted.

[xufan02]

Morrow Jr would look great in a Xavier uniform. He is an elite level athlete who plays with a great motor. Sitting out a year to work on his handle and shot could make him a really good pick-up.

[XUFan09]

Except we don't need a PG now. We were probably recruiting him when Scruggs was uncommitted.
Yup. In fact, I think Xavier stopped making a big effort once they had Naji, because his versatility allowed them to go Scruggs-or-bust on the point guard position.

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[principal]

Right...but IU still has to get to 13, let alone under 13 to be able to add someone. Assuming Archie even wants 13.

LOL. I read "overbooked" as "overlooked". Sorry about that.

[Ohionite_X]

How about Carlton Bragg?

Mack, Steele, and the XavierMBB Twitter account all have recently started to follow Bragg. I've noticed that the coaches typically follow kids that they're recruiting (kind of a no brainer) so I take it that they've at least reached out to him.

[xu95]

Mack, Steele, and the XavierMBB Twitter account all have recently started to follow Bragg. I've noticed that the coaches typically follow kids that they're recruiting (kind of a no brainer) so I take it that they've at least reached out to him.

I don't think there was ever any doubt that they have reached out to him. Now whether or not we will ever seriously be considered is a different story.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Though I don't like him, it doesn't hurt to reach out and inquire as to the type of situation he is looking for. I listed out my issues with this kid.

[bobbiemcgee]

I still like the kid from Rice - 18 and 9...6"5" G shoots 47% from 3 - 82% from the line, plus he's a Russian Jew which will make Snipe and the Republicans happy.(sarcasm font)

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/66324/egor-koulechov

[GoMuskies]

I'm all for the should have gone to GW kid from Rice as well. AND Bragg. Do it!

[xu82]

I still like the kid from Rice - 18 and 9...6"5" G shoots 47% from 3 - 82% from the line, plus he's a Russian Jew which will make Snipe and the Republicans happy.(sarcasm font)

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/66324/egor-koulechov


Ummmm....WOW! It's 47.4% on 171 attempts, not some tiny sample size. This guy can shoot!

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Ummmm....WOW! It's 47.4% on 171 attempts, not some tiny sample size. This guy can shoot!

The Rice kid is a highly sought after transfer. He will be able to pick where he goes that best fits his style of play.

[GIMMFD]

He increased 13% on his 3 pointers from sophomore to junior year.... Holy crap.

[xu82]

He increased 13% on his 3 pointers from sophomore to junior year.... Holy crap.

He went from pretty good to just amazing! Again, a large number of shots which makes it even more impressive.

[xufan02]

I haven't heard much about a three point shooting transfer, I have heard a lot more about a 1562 point scoring junior.

[bobbiemcgee]

He went from pretty good to just amazing! Again, a large number of shots which makes it even more impressive.


We better call soon:

http://cyclonefanatic.com/2017/04/recruiting-rice-grad-transfer-egor-koulechov-schedules-isu-visit/

[Ohionite_X]

We better call soon:

http://cyclonefanatic.com/2017/04/recruiting-rice-grad-transfer-egor-koulechov-schedules-isu-visit/

I'm pretty sure every transfer gets an automatic invite to visit ISU...

[bobbiemcgee]

....and an offer

[Juice]

Weathers is transferring to Oklahoma State https://twitter.com/_MKJ24/status/853629766909521920

[GIMMFD]

Weathers is transferring to Oklahoma State https://twitter.com/_MKJ24/status/853629766909521920

Even without Underwood as head coach, interesting. Also strange considering someone said he's basically a lock for us. Hmm.

[XUFan09]

Even without Underwood as head coach, interesting. Also strange considering someone said he's basically a lock for us. Hmm.
Did someone say that? If so, that was really bad intel, though the coaches were going hard after him.

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[GIMMFD]

Did someone say that? If so, that was really bad intel, though the coaches were going hard after him.

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I could have sworn I read on one of these threads that someone said "a little birdie" told him that we basically had Weathers (not those exact terms, but along those lines)

[nuts4xu]

I could have sworn I read on one of these threads that someone said "a little birdie" told him that we basically had Weathers (not those exact terms, but along those lines)

Very understandable, and you very well may have. I don't recall reading anything like that, but it doesn't mean it didn't. I am highly skeptical when anyone outside a few people I trust says they "have a source" or claims to know what will happen. Most of the kids that are known to be locks, are locks for us because multiple people are reporting it.

[GIMMFD]

Very understandable, and you very well may have. I don't recall reading anything like that, but it doesn't mean it didn't. I am highly skeptical when anyone outside a few people I trust says they "have a source" or claims to know what will happen. Most of the kids that are known to be locks, are locks for us because multiple people are reporting it.

Trust me, I 100% agree with you. I like to see verified Twitter accounts confirm it, and even then I'm skeptical until the LOI has been signed!

[Juice]

Even without Underwood as head coach, interesting. Also strange considering someone said he's basically a lock for us. Hmm.

Oklahoma State hired Miami's ex-coach as an assistant

[Cheesehead]

I could see what X had interest but with Q and Scruggs it didn't make sense to me.

[bleedXblue]

I could see what X had interest but with Q and Scruggs it didn't make sense to me.

Agree although it sounds like Scruggs has some versatility and isn't a "pure" PG

[casualfan]

If it was just about the basketball side Bragg would really excite me.

Taking everything into account I think I'd rather have the guy from Nebraska.

[BandAid]

I still like the kid from Rice - 18 and 9...6"5" G shoots 47% from 3 - 82% from the line, plus he's a Russian Jew which will make Snipe and the Republicans happy.(sarcasm font)

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/66324/egor-koulechov

I'd be tickled pink to have someone on the team named Egor. Such a fun name.

[GetUp5]

MiKyle McIntosh from Illinois State just declared without an agent and will grad transfer if/when he pulls out of the draft...

Yes, please.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/66427/mikyle-mcintosh

[blueblob06]

I'd be tickled pink to have someone on the team named Egor. Such a fun name.

Rare to see a Guard who shoots 47% from 3 and averages 9 rebounds a game. That's wild. I guess his level of competition is not real good being at Rice.

[GoMuskies]

I guess his level of competition is not real good being at Rice.

I suspect the three point line is still 20'9" away from the basket during Rice's games.

[Sonoran Desert Muskie]

Saw Egor play several times when he was a freshman at Arizona State. Even as a frosh, he was physical, had great court awareness, and was a solid contributor. It was perplexing why Herb Sendek hardly played him, which caused Egor to transfer. The guy has talent.

[bobbiemcgee]

J Crosby transferring from UD....2.6 ppg. He sucked but now no PG left on their roster.

[blueblob06]

I suspect the three point line is still 20'9" away from the basket during Rice's games.
Most likely ha. I was meaning the 9 rebounds per game as a guard was wild but may be high due to who they plan.

Will be interesting to see how the rest of the dominoes fall!

[GoMuskies]

Fair point. C-USA did just add E. Midget Tech. :)

[bobbiemcgee]

Saw Egor play several times when he was a freshman at Arizona State. Even as a frosh, he was physical, had great court awareness, and was a solid contributor. It was perplexing why Herb Sendek hardly played him, which caused Egor to transfer. The guy has talent.

http://rlv.zcache.co.uk/egor_greeting_card-ra907ff135b83459c9ac5c6305f4ee0d1_xvuat_8byvr_512. jpg

The Student Section would have fun with him.

[GIMMFD]

J Crosby transferring from UD....2.6 ppg. He sucked but now no PG left on their roster.

And the dumpster fire that is UD is continuing...

[Juice]

And the dumpster fire that is UD is continuing...

Following Blackburn Review since the Grant hire has been pretty funny. It seems that a good portion of the fan base is not happy with the hire. I see this as a Tubberville situation for them.

[XUMIOH12]

looks like Koulechov is headed to Florida

[casualfan]

Did we back off Morrow or did he visit already?

Jeff Borzello‏Verified account @jeffborzello 11m11 minutes ago
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Visit schedule for Nebraska transfer Ed Morrow:
• Marquette - this weekend
• Iowa State - next weekend
• Pittsburgh - first weekend in May

[XUMIOH12]

Did we back off Morrow or did he visit already?

Jeff Borzello‏Verified account @jeffborzello 11m11 minutes ago
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Visit schedule for Nebraska transfer Ed Morrow:
• Marquette - this weekend
• Iowa State - next weekend
• Pittsburgh - first weekend in May

I believe Mack met with Morrow in Lincoln on 4/7.

[THRILLHOUSE]

Welp, apparently Bragg is considering X:

"@JonRothstein Kansas transfer Carlton Bragg tells me his top five are Xavier, Arizona State, Illinois, Cincinnati and NC State. Will set visits soon."

[GIMMFD]

Welp, apparently Bragg is considering X:

"@JonRothstein Kansas transfer Carlton Bragg tells me his top five are Xavier, Arizona State, Illinois, Cincinnati and NC State. Will set visits soon."

Former 4*, 21st overall of the class of 2015, I think the jury is still out on him, the stats don't pop up at you, but there obviously has to be some talent there. 6'10 and 240 ain't too shabby either.

[THRILLHOUSE]

Former 4*, 21st overall of the class of 2015, I think the jury is still out on him, the stats don't pop up at you, but there obviously has to be some talent there. 6'10 and 240 ain't too shabby either.

Yeah, the talent is there, it's the non-basketball stuff that's his big concern.

So if we get him = nice! great get by Mack!
If we don't get him = That's fine, I didn't want that knucklehead anyway.

[xu82]

looks like Koulechov is headed to Florida

Doesn't he know Gainesville is as bad as Dayton? (But warmer.)

[xudash]

Doesn't he know Gainesville is as bad as Dayton? (But warmer.)

Ha! But with palm trees and Southern Belles, too.

[GIMMFD]

Yeah, the talent is there, it's the non-basketball stuff that's his big concern.

So if we get him = nice! great get by Mack!
If we don't get him = That's fine, I didn't want that knucklehead anyway.

I trust the staff to have a pretty good vetting process on it, he definitely rises some concerns, but I would hope that he knows that this is probably his last chance and he needs to get it straightened out immediately if he wants to play college ball.

[xu82]

Ha! But with palm trees and Southern Belles, too.

Palm trees are nice, but would come in a very distant second.

[Cheesehead]

Yeah, the talent is there, it's the non-basketball stuff that's his big concern.

So if we get him = nice! great get by Mack!
If we don't get him = That's fine, I didn't want that knucklehead anyway.

Lol, I was thinking the same thing.

[Harryfe]

He was suspended twice this year for off the court stuff.

[Juice]

He was suspended twice this year for off the court stuff.

Correct but let's be honest about what he was suspended for.

1) He was charged with battery for allegedly hitting his girlfriend. Turns out she hit him several times, he pushed her away, his charge was dropped and the DA filed charge(s) against her.
2) Misdemeanor possession of paraphernalia.

So one suspension was premature/precautionary and the other involves a misdemeanor charge that the current star of our team has plus some other stuff. Is it good that he was suspended? Absolutely not but let's not act like it's the end of the world.

[Xavier]

If Xavier landed a few guys who had pretty rough backgrounds, kicked off a team (and X gave them a 2nd chance) etc. but it lead to a Xavier FF or NC, would you care? I think some people legitimately would care and wouldn't want to do it that way which is fine. Most probably would sign up for that in a second.

[X-ceptional]

If Xavier landed a few guys who had pretty rough backgrounds, kicked off a team (and X gave them a 2nd chance) etc. but it lead to a Xavier FF or NC, would you care? I think some people legitimately would care and wouldn't want to do it that way which is fine. Most probably would sign up for that in a second.

I made my deal with the devil a couple of years ago, but he still hasn't paid up!

Is it still blasphemy if it's just a message board post?

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Correct but let's be honest about what he was suspended for.

1) He was charged with battery for allegedly hitting his girlfriend. Turns out she hit him several times, he pushed her away, his charge was dropped and the DA filed charge(s) against her.
2) Misdemeanor possession of paraphernalia.

So one suspension was premature/precautionary and the other involves a misdemeanor charge that the current star of our team has plus some other stuff. Is it good that he was suspended? Absolutely not but let's not act like it's the end of the world.

I troll a KU board as well as this one. Bragg's stuff wasn't too bad when you look at things separately. However, you have not one but two incidents with crazy ladies, you have a rape of a 16 year old in the player's dorm which turned up the drug paraphernalia when the cops searched the place, you have the rest of the crap going on with the players there. Some players need a change of venue and all is well, he could be that, but some just bring it with him. I trust the staff, but Bragg is worrisome.

[xudash]

So, I noticed an article about him in the Enquirer today.

It noted the 5 schools that he's looking at now, including UC.

It noted his off-the-court resume.

Then it pointed out that he achieved noterietay when he originally announced:

In January of 2015, Bragg made headlines in announcing his commitment by saying "Kentucky" as he put on a Kansas hat.

I would hate to see this kid in a UC uniform, but I'm not sure I want him wearing a Xavier uniform.

[bobbiemcgee]

VCU's Mo Alie-Cox is transferring to...........drumroll.......the Colts!

[casualfan]

Top 10 transfers available according to ESPN:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/19187379/where-college-basketball-best-transfers-going-2017-18-season

Both Bragg and Morrow are on the list.

[casualfan]

Correct but let's be honest about what he was suspended for.

1) He was charged with battery for allegedly hitting his girlfriend. Turns out she hit him several times, he pushed her away, his charge was dropped and the DA filed charge(s) against her.
2) Misdemeanor possession of paraphernalia.

So one suspension was premature/precautionary and the other involves a misdemeanor charge that the current star of our team has plus some other stuff. Is it good that he was suspended? Absolutely not but let's not act like it's the end of the world.

The one that concerns me is him being the witness in a missing child's report that was filed the day before that same 16 year old was allegedly raped in the dorms at Kansas.

There might be a great explanation for why he's tooling around with a 16 year old, but to me that is way more concerning than getting busted for paraphernalia.

The one with his girlfriend hitting him is a non-issue. She completely lied about it and it was shown she lied on security tape footage.

[casualfan]

Scott Stanford‏ @Scott_Stanford 3h3 hours ago
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Bet on Cincinnati .... Former Jayhawk Carlton Bragg Jr. eyeing five schools for fresh start http://www2.kusports.com/weblogs/tale-tait/2017/apr/20/former-jayhawk-carlton-bragg-jr-eyeing-f/ …

[GIMMFD]

The one that concerns me is him being the witness in a missing child's report that was filed the day before that same 16 year old was allegedly raped in the dorms at Kansas.

There might be a great explanation for why he's tooling around with a 16 year old, but to me that is way more concerning than getting busted for paraphernalia.

The one with his girlfriend hitting him is a non-issue. She completely lied about it and it was shown she lied on security tape footage.

Okay I didn't know about that whole 16 year old fiasco, that's a pretty big flag, I know it's a 2 year age difference, and that's not that large in the spectrum of things, but come on man. I'm sure you can find a legal girl at Kansas...

[casualfan]

Okay I didn't know about that whole 16 year old fiasco, that's a pretty big flag, I know it's a 2 year age difference, and that's not that large in the spectrum of things, but come on man. I'm sure you can find a legal girl at Kansas...

Deadspin did a pretty good job of reporting on his issues here:

http://deadspin.com/bill-self-says-carlton-bragg-jr-suspension-not-connec-1791734466

There are different reports linked throughout that article and one of them covers the rape investigation and his witness to the missing child.

[Cannonball]

Coach Mack should be the judge. I fully trust his assessment of the prospects.

[Harryfe]

Coach Mack should be the judge. I fully trust his assessment of the prospects.
Was he good with Ekeyor?

[GIMMFD]

Was he good with Ekeyor?

I don't think that should count, he made a stupid mistake with the pedestrian and then decided he didn't want to be at Xavier, but at X itself Ekinyor had zero off the court issues that I can remember.

[xu82]

Coach Mack should be the judge. I fully trust his assessment of the prospects.

As do I, for better or for worse. We get a lot more of the better, but no one is perfect. Some people just live to be negative. That must suck.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Scott Stanford‏ @Scott_Stanford 3h3 hours ago
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Bet on Cincinnati .... Former Jayhawk Carlton Bragg Jr. eyeing five schools for fresh start http://www2.kusports.com/weblogs/tale-tait/2017/apr/20/former-jayhawk-carlton-bragg-jr-eyeing-f/ …

Cincy, Bragg couldn't guard a stationary object. What makes Stanford think Cincy is the his best bet? Good lord, if Bragg is really this stupid then good luck to him. I am in the camp that thinks he has too much off court stuff for us to take a chance him.

Bragg couldn't get on the court at KU because of his man defense, going to Cincy where they only play man is a pretty stupid choice.

Edit: I am sure it's more about Ohio than anything, but I am shocked that he didn't at least take a visit to Syracuse/Providence. I really think his game translates better where he can shoot jumpers and play in a zone.

[AviatorX]

Cincy, Bragg couldn't guard a stationary object. What makes Stanford think Cincy is the his best bet? Good lord, if Bragg is really this stupid then good luck to him. I am in the camp that thinks he has too much off court stuff for us to take a chance him.

Bragg couldn't get on the court at KU because of his man defense, going to Cincy where they only play man is a pretty stupid choice.

Edit: I am sure it's more about Ohio than anything, but I am shocked that he didn't at least take a visit to Syracuse/Providence. I really think his game translates better where he can shoot jumpers and play in a zone.

Kyle Washington isn't exactly a plus defender and he's worked out pretty well in their system.

[Juice]

Okay I didn't know about that whole 16 year old fiasco, that's a pretty big flag, I know it's a 2 year age difference, and that's not that large in the spectrum of things, but come on man. I'm sure you can find a legal girl at Kansas...

In no way do I condone college guys messing around with high school girls, but the age of consent in Kansas (and Ohio) is 16. So legally speaking she was legal, morally I would say not so much.

[GIMMFD]

In no way do I condone college guys messing around with high school girls, but the age of consent in Kansas (and Ohio) is 16. So legally speaking she was legal, morally I would say not so much.

Eh regardless, that's still kind of weird to me. Like I said, I know 2 years doesn't seem like a big deal, but it's the age of development that you need to key into. College guys and high schools girls is Matthew McConaughey in Dazed and Confused type of creepy.

[Juice]

Eh regardless, that's still kind of weird to me. Like I said, I know 2 years doesn't seem like a big deal, but it's the age of development that you need to key into. College guys and high schools girls is Matthew McConaughey in Dazed and Confused type of creepy.

I agreed.

[Lloyd Braun]

Ed Morrow will be visiting X on May 12-13. He will be visiting Marquette, Iowa St, and Pitt before that.

Last visit a good thing? CM has been going after him hard.

[xufan02]

Ed Morrow will be visiting X on May 12-13. He will be visiting Marquette, Iowa St, and Pitt before that.

Last visit a good thing? CM has been going after him hard.

I would rather have the first visit. I see Morrow committing prior to actually visiting Xavier. I just don't see him wanting to play Center, and that's what he would play here. He is going to go where he can play on the wing.

[Lloyd Braun]

I would rather have the first visit. I see Morrow committing prior to actually visiting Xavier. I just don't see him wanting to play Center, and that's what he would play here. He is going to go where he can play on the wing.

Mack has already met with him in person. Do you think he would agree to visit if Mack told him he would be playing in a spot he didn't want to play?

[xufan02]

Mack has already met with him in person. Do you think he would agree to visit if Mack told him he would be playing in a spot he didn't want to play?

I wasn't at the table when Mack met with him in Lincoln, but tell me in what scenario with our roster and style of play Morrow plays anything but the 5.

I just find it unlikely that he would be utilized in the way he wants at Xavier. We have Kaiser, Ridder, and Naji that are all going to get a look at that four spot. Our only position of need is at Center.

Unless Mack wants to play two bigs and that is less than ideal on defense guarding ball screens, we are playing 4 out one in.

[casualfan]

I wasn't at the table when Mack met with him in Lincoln, but tell me in what scenario with our roster and style of play Morrow plays anything but the 5.

I just find it unlikely that he would be utilized in the way he wants at Xavier. We have Kaiser, Ridder, and Naji that are all going to get a look at that four spot. Our only position of need is at Center.

Unless Mack wants to play two bigs and that is less than ideal on defense guarding ball screens, we are playing 4 out one in.

They distinction between a PF and a C in college these days is pretty silly 99% of the time.

There are very few true centers left in college basketball these days. Guys like Sean O'Mara are the exception not the rule.

As for Morrow wanting to play on the wing that's pretty ridiculous IMO.

No one is playing a 6-7 234 lb guy that in 2 full years hasn't attempted a three on the wing.

I think what's happened with Tre being as good as he has letting us play 4 out people have just assumed we'll continue to play that way.

I don't necessarily think that's the case nor are teams obligated to play one way.

In 2 years can play a 4 out lineup such as (Q, Scruggs, Naji, Ridder, Tyrique) or you can play a couple in the paint bigs together (Q, Scruggs, Naji, Morrow, Tyrique)

Just because we've been successful doing it doesn't mean we are obligated to continue playing 4 out.

[AviatorX]

They distinction between a PF and a C in college these days is pretty silly 99% of the time.

There are very few true centers left in college basketball these days. Guys like Sean O'Mara are the exception not the rule.

As for Morrow wanting to play on the wing that's pretty ridiculous IMO.

No one is playing a 6-7 234 lb guy that in 2 full years hasn't attempted a three on the wing.

I think what's happened with Tre being as good as he has letting us play 4 out people have just assumed we'll continue to play that way.

I don't necessarily think that's the case nor are teams obligated to play one way.

In 2 years can play a 4 out lineup such as (Q, Scruggs, Naji, Ridder, Tyrique) or you can play a couple in the paint bigs together (Q, Scruggs, Naji, Morrow, Tyrique)

Just because we've been successful doing it doesn't mean we are obligated to continue playing 4 out.

Well, there's also the fact that based on how Mack is building the roster it seems pretty obvious they intend to continue playing that way. Especially with how well he managed the 3 man platoon at center down the stretch this past season.

[xufan02]

Casualfan, I just don't see those lineups that you listed giving us much versatility on offense. Ridder would be the only shooter in those lineups. Xavier in those lineups would be zoned all day long with zero ability to shoot a team out of it. Q, Scruggs, and Naji are not guys that make you pay from deep. That is why you would need guys like Kaiser, Ridder, and Harden on the floor with them to give you shooters.

Morrow is a non shooter and does not give you anything with your current roster on the wing. He is a tremendous defender and rebounder but in that lineup is a 5 along with Tyrique.

Xavier is recruiting and building their roster in the like of Villanova; having big slashing guards paired with wings that can shoot while playing one true post.

[casualfan]

Casualfan, I just don't see those lineups that you listed giving us much versatility on offense. Ridder would be the only shooter in those lineups. Xavier in those lineups would be zoned all day long with zero ability to shoot a team out of it. Q, Scruggs, and Naji are not guys that make you pay from deep. That is why you would need guys like Kaiser, Ridder, and Harden on the floor with them to give you shooters.

Morrow is a non shooter and does not give you anything with your current roster on the wing. He is a tremendous defender and rebounder but in that lineup is a 5 along with Tyrique.

Xavier is recruiting and building their roster in the like of Villanova; having big slashing guards paired with wings that can shoot while playing one true post.

If you're argument is that Morrow doesn't belong here because he doesn't fit the way Chris builds his roster why are rthey recruiting him?

You're taking an extremely simplistic view of roster construction.

As for the ability to win without a bunch of knock down shooters look no further than last year.

Ed shot 27% from deep last year, Q shot 25%, JP shot 34%, Kaiser shot 33%.

Hell even Tre only shot it at 37% last year.

We were a below average 3 point shooting team last year and made the elite 8.

[Juice]

They distinction between a PF and a C in college these days is pretty silly 99% of the time.

There are very few true centers left in college basketball these days. Guys like Sean O'Mara are the exception not the rule.

As for Morrow wanting to play on the wing that's pretty ridiculous IMO.

No one is playing a 6-7 234 lb guy that in 2 full years hasn't attempted a three on the wing.

I think what's happened with Tre being as good as he has letting us play 4 out people have just assumed we'll continue to play that way.

I don't necessarily think that's the case nor are teams obligated to play one way.

In 2 years can play a 4 out lineup such as (Q, Scruggs, Naji, Ridder, Tyrique) or you can play a couple in the paint bigs together (Q, Scruggs, Naji, Morrow, Tyrique)

Just because we've been successful doing it doesn't mean we are obligated to continue playing 4 out.

1) it may be ridiculous but Morrow wants to play the wing so he's going to go wherever allows him to do that or gives him the chance.

2) of course we aren't obligated to play that way but that's what Mack wants so he's going to make lineups and recruit based on that.

[casualfan]

1) it may be ridiculous but Morrow wants to play the wing so he's going to go wherever allows him to do that or gives him the chance.


There's not a single school on his list that will play him on the wing.

On point 2 actions speak louder than words. Morrow is not a guy that fits a recruiting strategy of playing 4 guards/wings around one traditional big.

[AviatorX]

There's not a single school on his list that will play him on the wing.

Probably true in the long run, but all the schools recruiting him will try to sell him on some version of him playing the wing if that's what he wants to hear to sign. It is particularly laughable he would play the wing at X with how Mack has them playing the last few years.

[casualfan]

Probably true in the long run, but all the schools recruiting him will try to sell him on some version of him playing the wing if that's what he wants to hear to sign. It is particularly laughable he would play the wing at X with how Mack has them playing the last few years.

And that's kind of my point. Like they'll sell him on coming and playing the spot Tre played I'm sure.

But if you swap in him for Tre, a guy that has never attempted a three and scores most points off offensive rebounds and post ups you're no longer playing 4 out regardless of what you're reruiting pitch to him was.

He's also a guy that can play the 5 if you want to go small.

You need different answers in college basketball. Last year teams with two traditional bigs gave us issues. Baylor, Butler, UC, Colorado at times. Those were all schools that were able to take advantage of us on the interior.

Morrow is a guy that gives you some options in case you're playing a team the 4 out isn't working particularly well against.

[XUFan09]

On point 2 actions speak louder than words. Morrow is not a guy that fits a recruiting strategy of playing 4 guards/wings around one traditional big.

Why not?


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[Juice]

And that's kind of my point. Like they'll sell him on coming and playing the spot Tre played I'm sure.

But if you swap in him for Tre, a guy that has never attempted a three and scores most points off offensive rebounds and post ups you're no longer playing 4 out regardless of what you're reruiting pitch to him was.

He's also a guy that can play the 5 if you want to go small.

You need different answers in college basketball. Last year teams with two traditional bigs gave us issues. Baylor, Butler, UC, Colorado at times. Those were all schools that were able to take advantage of us on the interior.

Morrow is a guy that gives you some options in case you're playing a team the 4 out isn't working particularly well against.

And with the exception of Colorado, those teams were just better than X. I don't think it had much to do with their lineup but more so their talent.

[Lloyd Braun]

How do we know Morrow wants to play "on the wing"? Not saying he doesn't just wondering what the source is. I doubt he all of a sudden wants to start jacking 3s.

[GIMMFD]

How do we know Morrow wants to play "on the wing"? Not saying he doesn't just wondering what the source is. I doubt he all of a sudden wants to start jacking 3s.

Eh playing wing doesn't necessarily mean you're just jacking threes, depends on your game. People play slashers on the wings all the time. But yeah I can't answer the Morrow question for you.

[Lloyd Braun]

Eh playing wing doesn't necessarily mean you're just jacking threes, depends on your game. People play slashers on the wings all the time. But yeah I can't answer the Morrow question for you.

Yes but if you can't shoot from 3 and you play the wing you better be a play maker or things get cramped pretty fast. Maybe he just doesn't want to be a C on defense? I dunno.

[casualfan]

Anybody know whether the staff prefers Bragg or Morrow?

[markchal]

We were a below average 3 point shooting team last year and made the elite 8.

We also were in consecutive must-win games at the end of the regular season and start of the conference tourney just to even be included in the field, so I'm not sure this is a good argument. We got hot at the right time and Tre had an amazing tournament. I don't think 3-pt shooting should be viewed as inconsequential to success going forward.

[casualfan]

We also were in consecutive must-win games at the end of the regular season and start of the conference tourney just to even be included in the field, so I'm not sure this is a good argument. We got hot at the right time and Tre had an amazing tournament. I don't think 3-pt shooting should be viewed as inconsequential to success going forward.

Last year's issues were on the defensive end. The offense, despite being below average from outside the 3 point arc, was very good.

[GIMMFD]

Last year's issues were on the defensive end. The offense, despite being below average from outside the 3 point arc, was very good.

Though I agree, I also still think we should add a shooter just to keep an extra weapon in the arsenal. Teams that live and die by the 3 generally don't do that hot, but having a couple shooters as options can really open up the floor with options.

[xufan02]

We are not adding a shooter, we have a 1562 point scorer who will be on the roster.

[xu82]

We are not adding a shooter, we have a 1562 point scorer who will be on the roster.

Did I miss something? And you know this how? We are not acting like we need a shooter, I'll freely admit.

[XUMIOH12]

Did I miss something? And you know this how? We are not acting like we need a shooter, I'll freely admit.

Just look at his last few posts, he knows EVERYTHING that is going on, he is a mind-reader! He knows exactly what the Xavier staff is thinking, he knows exactly what Ed Morrow is thinking, he knows exactly what Xavier's lineups will be, and he probably knows exactly what YOU are thinking too! haha

[GIMMFD]

just look at his last few posts, he knows everything that is going on, he is a mind-reader! He knows exactly what the xavier staff is thinking, he knows exactly what ed morrow is thinking, he knows exactly what xavier's lineups will be, and he probably knows exactly what you are thinking too! Haha

holy shit we have david blaine on our message board!?!?!?!

EDIT: You guys not letting me all caps that message are really bringing me down over here... fun police I swear.

[bobbiemcgee]

He picked Butler in the BET, Maryland, FSU and Az in the Dance so I wouldn't go to Vegas with the guy.

[GoMuskies]

He picked Butler in the BET, Maryland, FSU and Az in the Dance so I wouldn't go to Vegas with the guy.

Someone who is consistently wrong is just as valuable in Vegas as someone who is consistently right!

[casualfan]

Anybody know whether the staff prefers Bragg or Morrow?

Bump.

[XUMIOH12]

He picked Butler in the BET, Maryland, FSU and Az in the Dance so I wouldn't go to Vegas with the guy.

i did the same thing, out of superstition

[XUMIOH12]

Bump.

i'm surprised that hasn't been answered with all of the know-it-alls on this board.

[X-ceptional]

Ernst to FGCU: https://twitter.com/bradyernst33/status/855824295162920962

[X-ceptional]

Out of the running for Bragg?


Jon Rothstein‏
@JonRothstein (https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/857294115788271616)
Kansas transfer Carlton Bragg will visit Arizona State on May 1st & 2nd, per a source. Also considering Cincinnati, Illinois, & NC State.

[Olsingledigit]

Looks like we are out of the Bragg race.

[smileyy]

Ernst to FGCU: https://twitter.com/bradyernst33/status/855824295162920962

Well that's a step down.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Looks like we are out of the Bragg race.

Typo? Cincy won't take him. Their defense is too good and his is too poor. Illinois and ASU offer the best shot at playing 30 mpg, however, he won't play in the tourney.

[AviatorX]

Typo? Cincy won't take him. Their defense is too good and his is too poor. Illinois and ASU offer the best shot at playing 30 mpg, however, he won't play in the tourney.

UC would absolutely take him. You think they're just pursuing him for fun?

[xu82]

Looks like we are out of the Bragg race.

I don't know if that's a bad thing.....