Team 96

[markchal]

Going with the most popular assumptions on this board, I guess our team next year looks something like

PG- Q
SG- Scruggs
SF- JP Macura
PF- Kasier Gates
C- Sean O'Mara

bench- Tyrique Jones, the juco big guy, a bunch of frosh (Marshall, Harden, Ridder, maybe Jones if eligible)

Thank God for that tourney run, which I imagine should give a lot of confidence to Q, Kaiser, Sean and Tyrique. Jp will be our leader but if you thought team 95 struggled from 3 (one of the worst in the country statistically) then this one is gonna be even worse. Definitely a lot of talent, and you can't ask for a better leader than JP.

We should be good inside (especially if Kaiser keeps driving like he did in the tournament, would make him very hard to defend, maybe kind of like a Kelan Martin), and I'm excited to see Sean and especially Tyrique.

We will at least have more guard depth than we did for the last part of this season, so JP won't have to play backup point. Not sure what to expect from Harden, but have high expectations from Scruggs/Marshall to be players next year.

Should be fun to watch the new class that's taking over the program (the huge frosh class plus Q and Tyrique is a v. solid group of underclassmen). Next year may not be our year, but it will be an important one and the two that follow that should be really something.

[Musketeer_15]

Team 96 will immediately be tested as well. Home games against Baylor, Colorado, UC, and hopefully a Big Ten school with the Gavitt Games. Only known road game is at Northern Iowa. Also playing in the Las Vegas Invitational where they could play either Kansas State or Arizona State. It'll be interesting to see how the freshmen can contribute in these kinds of games and if Q and Tyrique can continue to build momentum off play these past few weeks.

Team 96 will also have some new jerseys too, can't wait to see those when they are released.

[Ohionite_X]

I would love to see Gates become a similar player to Justin Jackson from UNC. Same size, same build, similar athleticism. Jackson is clearly superior in ball handling/driving skills but if Gates can drive and finish enough to keep the defense honest his jumper can make him a real weapon. Not to mention he could be the leading rebounder on the the team next season, no joke.

[XUMIOH12]

I would love to see Gates become a similar player to Justin Jackson from UNC. Same size, same build, similar athleticism. Jackson is clearly superior in ball handling/driving skills but if Gates can drive and finish enough to keep the defense honest his jumper can make him a real weapon. Not to mention he could be the leading rebounder on the the team next season, no joke.

thats pretty wishful thinking haha

[Ohionite_X]

thats pretty wishful thinking haha

I can dream.. I'm gunning for a similar skill-set, not necessarily similar production.

[XUMIOH12]

I can dream.. I'm gunning for a similar skill-set, not necessarily similar production.

He showed glimpses of driving the ball a little more towards the end of the season. If he can be able to do that effectively more often, it would be huge for his game. I just don't see his ball-handling ever being good enough to do more than shoot or straight-line drive.

[gladdenguy]

Not getting a Gavitt Game at home.
Defensively the team will be much better. JP, Kaiser and if Ridder plays, they will be threats from deep.
Inside game should be solid with Sean, Tyrique and whatever Brady Ernst gives.
Gonna be an exciting year. I don't know if I would have told you that 3 weeks ago. This run was huge in so many ways.

[THRILLHOUSE]

Going with the most popular assumptions on this board, I guess our team next year looks something like

PG- Q
SG- Scruggs
SF- JP Macura
PF- Kasier Gates
C- Sean O'Mara

bench- Tyrique Jones, the juco big guy, a bunch of frosh (Marshall, Harden, Ridder, maybe Jones if eligible)


I think Tyrique probably starts at C, but doesn't really matter too much since he and Sean probably will get the same amount of minutes.

[SemajParlor]

A lot fan bases are going to feel like JP's been here for 10 years. I love it.

[D-West & PO-Z]

A lot fan bases are going to feel like JP's been here for 10 years. I love it.

Ha, yeah he is exactly the type of player that would make fans of other teams feel that way.

[paulxu]

We need a Martelli to do a Burrell.

[X-band '01]

Team 96 will immediately be tested as well. Home games against Baylor, Colorado, UC, and hopefully a Big Ten school with the Gavitt Games. Only known road game is at Northern Iowa. Also playing in the Las Vegas Invitational where they could play either Kansas State or Arizona State. It'll be interesting to see how the freshmen can contribute in these kinds of games and if Q and Tyrique can continue to build momentum off play these past few weeks.

Team 96 will also have some new jerseys too, can't wait to see those when they are released.

They also have a return road game at Utah. They will also have 2 buy-game opponents (out of a group of 4 teams including Hampton, Rider, UC-Irvine and Northern Arizona) tied in to the Las Vegas Invitational.

[xukeith]

I believe at end of next year, Brady Ernst will make us forget about slow Sean O'Mara.

Sean was in a groove but too lumbering and oafish.

Ernst is more limber and athletic. 3 years of him is great.

I know Scruggs will get all the hype but I believe Naji Marshall will be the shining frosh. He's long and lanky, athletic and a jumper (2nd best recruit)

[Ohionite_X]

As has been touched on already, 3pt shooting could be an issue. Q and Scruggs have elite level vision, driving, and passing skills. This should make it easier for some of the other guys to get more open looks than they got this season. Someone I see having a great year off the bench and benefiting from that will be Jared Ridder. He didn't play against elite level competition like some of the other freshman but his shooting ability is second to none. Defense will probably be what holds him back but I think he'll hit some big shots for us.

Paul Biancardi likes him too:
https://twitter.com/ESPNInsider/status/825060587570884610 (https://twitter.com/ESPNInsider/status/825060587570884610)

[AviatorX]

I believe at end of next year, Brady Ernst will make us forget about slow Sean O'Mara.

Sean was in a groove but too lumbering and oafish.

Ernst is more limber and athletic. 3 years of him is great.

I know Scruggs will get all the hype but I believe Naji Marshall will be the shining frosh. He's long and lanky, athletic and a jumper (2nd best recruit)

You basing this off of a couple 5 minute JUCO highlight tapes? God help us. Ernst won't play that much next year.

The switch came on for O'Mara down the stretch, I really believe that. He was demanding the ball, yelling at the bench when it didn't come to him etc. I don't expect him to be a 15/8 guy or anything, but he will be really solid.

[Harryfe]

You basing this off of a couple 5 minute JUCO highlight tapes? God help us. Ernst won't play that much next year.

The switch came on for O'Mara down the stretch, I really believe that. He was demanding the ball, yelling at the bench when it didn't come to him etc. I don't expect him to be a 15/8 guy or anything, but he will be really solid.
Sean had a good tourney but as so many others a poor game against Gonzaga. He will play a big roll next year but not consistent.

[xu82]

As has been touched on already, 3pt shooting could be an issue. Q and Scruggs have elite level vision, driving, and passing skills. This should make it easier for some of the other guys to get more open looks than they got this season. Someone I see having a great year off the bench and benefiting from that will be Jared Ridder. He didn't play against elite level competition like some of the other freshman but his shooting ability is second to none. Defense will probably be what holds him back but I think he'll hit some big shots for us.

Paul Biancardi likes him too:
https://twitter.com/ESPNInsider/status/825060587570884610 (https://twitter.com/ESPNInsider/status/825060587570884610)

Don't be fooled by just his HS competition. I believe his AAU team played at and against a very high level. This might be the better gauge. Saw one AAU game on TV and it was packed full of big name players recruited at the highest levels (I think).

[bobbiemcgee]

Gavitt Game vs. Archie? Please!

[xu82]

I just looked up Ridder's AAU team out of curiosity. They have 2 kids uncommitted, but his other teammates have committed to: FSU, Washington, Tennessee, Oklahoma, SMU, Navy and 5 star Michael Porter to Missouri. That's some serious basketball! The game I saw on TV the opponents had similar talent. Ridder seems to be a very good shooter and solid contributor, but he's no Porter. It's a WOW team.

[Ohionite_X]

Looks like Michael Porter's highly talented brother Jontay also played on that squad. Good to see that Ridder has played with and against some high level lengthy talent.

[XU-PA]

This "Team 96" thread has no mention of Ed anywhere in next season's mix. The "2017-18" thread reads like him coming back is a given.
Obviously he's got some thinking to do.
How do the scholarship numbers shake out with him staying vs him leaving?
We lose Sheed, Malcom and Tre. We keep Q, Gates, JP, Sean, and Tyrique. Does that leave room for Ed and all the recruits?

[Ohionite_X]

This "Team 96" thread has no mention of Ed anywhere in next season's mix. The "2017-18" thread reads like him coming back is a given.
Obviously he's got some thinking to do.
How do the scholarship numbers shake out with him staying vs him leaving?
We lose Sheed, Malcom and Tre. We keep Q, Gates, JP, Sean, and Tyrique. Does that leave room for Ed and all the recruits?

Both Tre and Ed can come back and we'll be at the 13 scholly limit. So if one or both leave, the coaches will probably be shopping in the transfer market.

[D-West & PO-Z]

ESPN take on Xavier next season:

http://www.espn.com/blog/ncbrecruiting/on-the-trail/insider/post?id=17055

[xu82]

ESPN take on Xavier next season:

http://www.espn.com/blog/ncbrecruiting/on-the-trail/insider/post?id=17055

It's funny, I know Insider is very cheap to get, but i just resent ESPN a little bit more than my curiousity about what that might say. .

[sirthought]

So is Kentravious Jones just not in the picture at all?

I know people said his grades weren't good, but what's the story at this point?
I think this guy should be wrapped up and at least on the bench and learning in practice.

I am hoping a major corner is turned for all of our returning guys. Based on recent history it seems to happen for two or three most years, so that bodes well!

[Masterofreality]

So is Kentravious Jones just not in the picture at all?

I know people said his grades weren't good, but what's the story at this point?
I think this guy should be wrapped up and at least on the bench and learning in practice.

I am hoping a major corner is turned for all of our returning guys. Based on recent history it seems to happen for two or three most years, so that bodes well!

Kentrevious is still anticipated to come. His grades have improved greatly since he transferred to that Prep School. The question is if he can make the test score. He's anticipating being here and being on Team 96... And there is room for him with the scholly limit.

[xu82]

I know it's very limited, but the big guy has good hands and good feet from what I've seen. I'll let it play out, but he looks encouraging. In time....

[XU-PA]

Still calling us, and Gonzaga "mid majors" and referring to us from outside the "power 5" conferenes. not sure the people writing scripts there have even been watching college hoops in the last several years

[XfansinKy]

Ridder was awarded Missouri high school basketball player of the year.

[XMuskieFTW]

So is Kentravious Jones just not in the picture at all?

I know people said his grades weren't good, but what's the story at this point?
I think this guy should be wrapped up and at least on the bench and learning in practice.

I am hoping a major corner is turned for all of our returning guys. Based on recent history it seems to happen for two or three most years, so that bodes well!

Even if he comes next year, I'd be shocked if he didn't redshirt. We will have 3 other bigs when we play one at a time.

[xufan2434]

Even if he comes next year, I'd be shocked if he didn't redshirt. We will have 3 other bigs when we play one at a time.

Agree with this. He's a very hard working kid and has a great attitude from what I've seen. He's come a long way in a short period of time from what I understand. So it'd probably be in his and the team's best interest to redshirt for a year, learn a lot and keep working on his game. No need to waste a year of eligibility by sitting on the bench.

Obviously as we all just learned this year, the roster can change in a second.. so this is all assuming they'll have Sean, Tyrique, and Ernst at 100% heading into the year

[xufan2434]

Next year is going to be a weird one. IMO Tre and Ed are gone. Or at least that's what I'm expecting. So that leaves X with JP as the main guy. It was sad to see him and Tre walk off the court one last time together. Those 2 had a remarkable couple of weeks together at the end. Would love to see 1 more full season of em playing off each other.

I think for them to be able to compete at any kind of Top 4 Big East finish, Kaiser is going to have to make the biggest jump. They're going to need some other kind of firepower with a jump shot that isn't a freshman. Q has already made great strides and I'm sure he'll spend all off season working on his jumper, but until then they need some shooting. Would be sweet if Kaiser could make similar improvements to someone like BJ Raymond.

[Ohionite_X]

Something that impressed me with Tyrique and especially Sean were how well they improved their free throw shooting throughout the season. Tyrique didn't shoot many free throws but his form and touch at the end of the season was light years ahead of where he was at the beginning. Would be nice to get those guys shooting in the 70% range.

[Dmartin]

I am excited for next year, I only see one match up problem in the Big East and see Xavier going deep again in the NCAA Tournament. Tyrique, Q, JP and Sean, are a solid foundation for a good team, Ed will be icing on the cake if he comes back and the Freshmen are talented enough to give us production from the start as Tyrique and Q did.

[xufan2434]

Something that impressed me with Tyrique and especially Sean were how well they improved their free throw shooting throughout the season. Tyrique didn't shoot many free throws but his form and touch at the end of the season was light years ahead of where he was at the beginning. Would be nice to get those guys shooting in the 70% range.

Could not agree more with that. I remember at the beginning of the year thinking how good Tyrique could be if he could start finishing because he was so good at getting position. Then to think what he was able to do at Creighton against Patton is really amazing. He really came a long way this year and yeah the free throw shooting haha. I swear he was 0/10 to start the year and I was actually confident in him at the line towards the 2nd half.

Hopefully Sean can take this momentum and bring it into a great senior year upcoming. He definitely has the ability to do so. Crazy that it could be just him and JP to finish out their 4 years from the great 6 man recruiting class

[Caveat]

Next year is going to be a weird one. IMO Tre and Ed are gone. Or at least that's what I'm expecting. So that leaves X with JP as the main guy. It was sad to see him and Tre walk off the court one last time together. Those 2 had a remarkable couple of weeks together at the end. Would love to see 1 more full season of em playing off each other.

I think for them to be able to compete at any kind of Top 4 Big East finish, Kaiser is going to have to make the biggest jump. They're going to need some other kind of firepower with a jump shot that isn't a freshman. Q has already made great strides and I'm sure he'll spend all off season working on his jumper, but until then they need some shooting. Would be sweet if Kaiser could make similar improvements to someone like BJ Raymond.

As the quality of recruiting for Xavier continues to improve, we're going to need to get more comfortable with the idea that the freshmen we're bringing in are going to be able to shoulder more and more responsibility. It might not be an issue of Kaiser needing to step up so much as it might be plugging a kid like Paul Scruggs or Naji Marshall into the lineup on Day 1 and just letting him do his thing.

[GIMMFD]

As the quality of recruiting for Xavier continues to improve, we're going to need to get more comfortable with the idea that the freshmen we're bringing in are going to be able to shoulder more and more responsibility. It might not be an issue of Kaiser needing to step up so much as it might be plugging a kid like Paul Scruggs or Naji Marshall into the lineup on Day 1 and just letting him do his thing.

Which in turn also means we need to start appreciating the fact that not a lot of guys are going to be around for 4 years anymore. We're getting amazing talent each year, and the future is so damn bright. Not a lot of these guys are going to be around for 4 years for X, but we could totally see more success and break down the wall. Our program is heading in the right direction.

[AviatorX]

Which in turn also means we need to start appreciating the fact that not a lot of guys are going to be around for 4 years anymore. We're getting amazing talent each year, and the future is so damn bright. Not a lot of these guys are going to be around for 4 years for X, but we could totally see more success and break down the wall. Our program is heading in the right direction.

I know this is what you are saying, but if kids are leaving X early to play professional basketball, then things are going well.

[MADXSTER]

Next year's squad

Edmund Sumner
Trevon Bluiett
JP Macura
Sean O'Mara
Kaiser Gates
Q Goodin
Tyrique Jones
Paul Scruggs
Naji Marshall
Elias Harden
Jared Ridder
Kentravious Jones
Bradley Ernst

Ed obviously won't be starting at the beginning of the season.

Starters assuming Tre does not return. As much as we like to hype the freshman class (and they deserve the hype) they will not know the set plays and we have experienced guys who will know them. Tyrique started this past year and O'mara came off the bench and played solid minutes. I have Ernst because he has a year of D1 and Juco experience, thus he just has more experience at this level. That still gives Xavier two outside shooters and a driver in Q to go along with two bigs.
Q
JP
Kaiser
Ernst
Tyrique

If Tre comes back this team will be absolutely loaded and will be two deep at every position.

Q
JP
Tre
Gates
Tyrique

As for some of the newcomers once they learn the system, wow look out.

Paul Scruggs- ranked 30th 6'4 180 billed as the best defender coming out of the entire 2017 class. Think of Q but better.
Naji Marshall- 6'6 205 ranked 38th - SF but handles and passes like a point guard. Big time play maker
Elias Harden - 6'5 175 SG not ranked but given a 4 star ranking because he came on late.
Jared Ridder - 6'7 205 PF shooter like Gates. Missouri Gatorade POY
Kentravious Jones - 6'11 285 man child with soft hands . Think of Olaf of Gonzaga
Bradley Ernst - 6'9 210 got hurt out of HS played 1 yr at Iowa St Then 1 at community college to rehabilitate. Has three yrs left.

[bobbiemcgee]

I'm pretty fuzzy on our current projected OOC next yr. Maybe some of you guys can update:

Colorado
Baylor?
UC
Gavitt Game
@UNI
@Wake
@Utah?
Tournament somewhere

Geesh, that's maybe 10 games already.

[xu82]

I'm pretty fuzzy on our current projected OOC next yr. Maybe some of you guys can update:

Colorado
Baylor?
UC
Gavitt Game
@UNI
@Wake
@Utah?
Tournament somewhere

I was in Colorado last week. "Fuzzy" seemed to be a common state.

I do LOVE what we have coming in next year, and have great faith in our coaches ability to manage it all.

[Section 200]

I'm pretty fuzzy on our current projected OOC next yr. Maybe some of you guys can update:

Colorado
Baylor?
UC
Gavitt Game
@UNI
@Wake
@Utah?
Tournament somewhere

Geesh, that's maybe 10 games already.

2 games in Las Vegas plus 2 home games from the Vegas tourney. Maybe we take a break from Wake next year?

[MADXSTER]

Wake is played every other year and who knows if Xavier will ever play a Gavit Game.

[GoMuskies]

Wake is played every other year and who knows if Xavier will ever play a Gavit Game.

Michigan was a Gavitt game. Worked out nicely. For us.

[bobbiemcgee]

I was in Colorado last week. "Fuzzy" seemed to be a common state.

I do LOVE what we have coming in next year, and have great faith in our coaches ability to manage it all.

Too bad the Maui Tournament is in 2018 - Az and Gonzaga.

[MADXSTER]

Michigan was a Gavitt game. Worked out nicely. For us.

You're right and that was an awesome game.

[bobbiemcgee]

Wake is played every other year and who knows if Xavier will ever play a Gavit Game.


Were Baylor and Utah set up as H/H's?

[RetireFiftyTu]

I'm pretty fuzzy on our current projected OOC next yr. Maybe some of you guys can update:

Colorado
Baylor?
UC
Gavitt Game
@UNI
@Wake
@Utah?
Tournament somewhere

Geesh, that's maybe 10 games already.

Home Games
Baylor: Tuesday, November 28
Colorado: date not yet announced
Cincinnati: date not yet announced
Games against two of Hampton, Northern Arizona, Rider, and UC Irvine

Away Games
Northern Iowa: Friday, December 22
Utah: date not yet announced

Las Vegas Invitational
Will play either Arizona State, Kansas State, or George Washington in a semifinal game on Thanksgiving Day, November 23.
Will play in either the final or 3rd place game on Friday, November 24.

Mack has said on his radio show that they are likely not going to have a Gavitt Game this year. Right now Xavier is on the books for 9 non-conference games. Wake Forest is now two years on then two years off. Xavier just finished up two straight against Wake so they won't be back on the schedule until 2019-2020. The Baylor, Utah, Colorado, and Northern Iowa home and homes all wrap up this year.

[bobbiemcgee]

Michigan was a Gavitt game. Worked out nicely. For us.


I vote for IU

[xu82]

Too bad the Maui Tournament is in 2018 - Az and Gonzaga.

We stayed in Cherry Creek (Halcyon), did some time in downtown and a few days in Vail. Great trip!

[bobbiemcgee]

Cherry Creek is home to my fav burger place.....except it burnt down in Dec.

[X-band '01]

Next year is an off year for the Skip Prosser Classic - the game at Wake isn't until 2018-19.

They'll get 2 exempt games at home as part of the Las Vegas Invitational from a pool of Hampton, Rider, UC-Irvine and Northern Arizona. The actual tournament will involve Kansas State, GW and Arizona State.

[XUMIOH12]

Home Games
Baylor: Tuesday, November 28
Colorado: date not yet announced
Cincinnati: date not yet announced
Games against two of Hampton, Northern Arizona, Rider, and UC Irvine

Away Games
Northern Iowa: Friday, December 22
Utah: date not yet announced

Las Vegas Invitational
Will play either Arizona State, Kansas State, or George Washington in a semifinal game on Thanksgiving Day, November 23.
Will play in either the final or 3rd place game on Friday, November 24.

Mack has said on his radio show that they are likely not going to have a Gavitt Game this year. Right now Xavier is on the books for 9 non-conference games. Wake Forest is now two years on then two years off. Xavier just finished up two straight against Wake so they won't be back on the schedule until 2019-2020. The Baylor, Utah, Colorado, and Northern Iowa home and homes all wrap up this year.

ah I hadn't heard that we weren't going to get a Gavitt Game again this year. That would line us up to be in it 5 times in a row after next season (for the final 5 years it is scheduled at this point).

[xu82]

Cherry Creek is home to my fav burger place.....except it burnt down in Dec.

I tired to go there, on our block. Was told a grease fire led to finding asbestos and lots of.....everything. Still, fabulous area! Went to Bull and Bush for X vs Zags. Nice, but not lucky for me. Met folks at the next table who's first words to me were "how the F*&%n did you lose to US?".

[bobbiemcgee]

Mario just needs to schedule Duke, NC and SC and we're done.

[xu82]

....something Cricket??? Bugging me now.

[bobbiemcgee]

http://www.cherrycricket.com/

[xu82]

http://www.cherrycricket.com/

Thanks, that's it. Around the corner from the Halcyon hotel. Plenty of great places nearby! Very cool area.

[Ohionite_X]

Next year's squad

Starters assuming Tre does not return. As much as we like to hype the freshman class (and they deserve the hype) they will not know the set plays and we have experienced guys who will know them. Tyrique started this past year and O'mara came off the bench and played solid minutes. I have Ernst because he has a year of D1 and Juco experience, thus he just has more experience at this level. That still gives Xavier two outside shooters and a driver in Q to go along with two bigs.
Q
JP
Kaiser
Ernst
Tyrique



I tend to think the starting lineup would be:

Q
Scruggs
JP
Gates
Tyrique

If we're lucky and see the return of both Bluiett and Sumner then we'd see:

Q
Sumner
JP
Bluiett
Tyrique

and be absolutely loaded off the bench at each position.

[bobbiemcgee]

Sounds like a Top 10 with everyone back + the frosh and transfer. Wonder where will will finish in the Top 25 this yr.?

[XfansinKy]

PG-Q
SG-Scruggs.
SG-JP.
F-Gates.
C-O'mara.

I believe next year will be another really good X team. Scruggs already has an NBA type physique as well as athletic ability. So does Naji at G or SF. Tyrique has an NBA power forward physique and athleticism too. He's built a lot like Laker's PF Julius Randle. Everybody already knows Ed's got NBA athletic ability if and when he comes back healthy and strong. Elias Harden is an elite scorer/shooter that can break ankles too. I think he's 6'5 - 6'6. Gotta figure at 6'7 with his quick release, Ridder will be able to spot up and shoot with confidence knowing he's going to shoot over close outs. Coach Mack and staff are recruiting like nothing I've ever seen at X.

[X-ceptional]

There was some discussion about Big K earlier in the thread. I just saw Shannon retweeted the below from Jones... looks like he's ready to get started.

Kentrevious Jones‏
@TheReal_Bigk (https://twitter.com/TheReal_Bigk/status/846061242225709056)

Mar 26


Almost That Time!! ✌ More Months ⚔️
#Blessed


The tweet has a couple pictures, including this one:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C73QNdOW4AAu7PN.jpg

[GoMuskies]

Why does Jaren Ridder look like he just saw a ghost?

[bleedXblue]

There was some discussion about Big K earlier in the thread. I just saw Shannon retweeted the below from Jones... looks like he's ready to get started.

Kentrevious Jones‏
@TheReal_Bigk (https://twitter.com/TheReal_Bigk/status/846061242225709056)

Mar 26



The tweet has a couple pictures, including this one:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C73QNdOW4AAu7PN.jpg

love the picture....awesome

[xu82]

Why does Jaren Ridder look like he just saw a ghost?

He sees dead people?

[bobbiemcgee]

He was watching the Gonzaga replay.

[Caveat]

He sees dead people?

Someone told him "Ed and Tre are leaving next year -- have fun in Big East play..."

In Mack We Trust, I get it -- but this team is losing a TON of it's points productions (4 of the top 5 scorers).

[Ohionite_X]

Someone told him "Ed and Tre are leaving next year -- have fun in Big East play..."

In Mack We Trust, I get it -- but this team is losing a TON of it's points productions (4 of the top 5 scorers).

We have relied heavily on freshman each of the past 3 seasons and they've all turned out great. I think we'll be just fine. Someone will emerge as a legit consistent scorer alongside Macura.

[GoMuskies]

We return three starters from the Elite 8 game with a nice infusion of young talent. I think we'll be okay.

[Caveat]

We return three starters from the Elite 8 game with a nice infusion of young talent. I think we'll be okay.

True -- but Q was successful, in part, because he wasn't asked to be a scoring threat from the 1. That's going to need to change next season. He seems intelligent and has some great moves, so I'm confident he can make the jump, but that's a big Q.

It's just going to be a lot more interesting next year than I was initially thinking, for some reason.

[AviatorX]

If your role players and young guys don't grow over their career and you aren't Kentucky or Duke, you're gonna have a bad time in college basketball.

Certainly losing a lot, but I don't think there's any reason to panic over next season. Lot of talent still on the roster.

[drudy23]

Really hope we have a consistent scoring threat coming in...we're gonna need it.

[xufan2434]

Al Freeman is leaving Baylor. Let's go get him

[Lloyd Braun]

Al Freeman is transferring from Baylor and will be eligible next year. Just sayin..

[Lloyd Braun]

Al Freeman is leaving Baylor. Let's go get him

Beat me to it...

[mistabeecee41]

i think we can move forward with lineup projections without Ed and Tre. a grad transfer at the guard spot is a no-brainer.

Scruggs/Naji seem to be the consensus guys that will be ready to contribute right away. Mack hasn't played 2 traditional bigs at the same time in 2 years, so i'd assume Ridder will be used as a stretch 4 before we see Ernst on the court with Sean or Ty.

Q/grad transfer
Scruggs/same grad transfer/Harden
JP/Naji/Harden
Kaiser/Ridder/Ernst
Tyrique/Sean/Ernst

[Ohionite_X]

Al Freeman is leaving Baylor. Let's go get him

He would be perfect. Off-ball scoring guard, good height, good percentages. Just saw that we offered this guy a scholarship in high school, is that true?

Elijah Brown is also floating around out there. More of a volume scorer but a scorer none the less.

[mistabeecee41]

Al Freeman is transferring from Baylor and will be eligible next year. Just sayin..

i'd prefer a 1/2 combo as a opposed to a 2/3 combo, but he fits the latter perfectly.

[Ohionite_X]

I'd actually prefer a 2/3 combo. I think the 1 is pretty much locked down by Q and Scruggs.

[xu82]

Al Freeman is leaving Baylor. Let's go get him

Freeman shot 38.9% from 3 territory last season, good enough for second place on Xavier (behind only Malcolm at 39.2%). I'd be very curious to know more!

[SemajParlor]

I'd imagine we'll at least put our hat in the ring. Of the limited times I've seen him play, he seems to be a good fit for us. Dare I say he reminds me a little of a more athletic Myles Davis?

[Lloyd Braun]

I've seen him play several times and he is solid. Should have made a bigger jump this year which can be due to a lot of reasons, one of which is not getting the touches. He is not however a combo 2/3. He is a 2.

Assuming there arent any character concerns (suspended 4 games this year) he would be a nice addition of talent.

More athletic Myles Davis is not a bad comparison actually, though Myles is a better pure shooter.

[AviatorX]

Freeman shot 38.9% from 3 territory last season, good enough for second place on Xavier (behind only Malcolm at 39.2%). I'd be very curious to know more!

He's gonna be able to go pretty much wherever he wants.

[xu82]

I've seen him play several times and he is solid. Should have made a bigger jump this year which can be due to a lot of reasons, one of which is not getting the touches. He is not however a combo 2/3. He is a 2.

Assuming there arent any character concerns (suspended 4 games this year) he would be a nice addition of talent.

More athletic Myles Davis is not a bad comparison actually, though Myles is a better pure shooter.

Not to nitpick, and I don't remember ever watching him play, but Freeman shot the 3 at a slightly higher rate than Myles best year of 38.4% (he was 38.9% last year I think). Anything comparable could be a very helpful addition!!! But yes, let's not have character concerns!

[Lloyd Braun]

Not to nitpick, and I don't remember ever watching him play, but Freeman shot the 3 at a slightly higher rate than Myles best year of 38.4% (he was 38.9% last year I think). Anything comparable could be a very helpful addition!!! But yes, let's not have character concerns!

So is Malcolm Bernard a better shooter than Myles? I don't have stats in front of me but I would guess Myles shot more 3s than Freeman did.

[xu82]

So is Malcolm Bernard a better shooter than Myles? I don't have stats in front of me but I would guess Myles shot more 3s than Freeman did.

Totally agree, Freeman took 113 last year for 38.9% and 131 the year before at 38.2%. Good sample size. I'm not arguing, just saying he's appears to be a good shooter and we can use some of that. I was shocked Malcolm was that high.

By comparison Myles took 168 in '15/16. Not arguing, just like the idea of another good shooter. (Especially with some experience!) If not him, maybe someone else?

[xufan2434]

He's gonna be able to go pretty much wherever he wants.

Agreed. It's going to come down to what he is looking for. This is a complete guess, but I'd imagine Kansas will go after him pretty hard. They're losing Mason, Jackson, and possibly Devonte Graham. They're only bringing in 1 guard as of now to replace them. Will be interesting. I think he'd be a good fit at X and would certainly offer a nice duo with JP.

[GoMuskies]

Agreed. It's going to come down to what he is looking for. This is a complete guess, but I'd imagine Kansas will go after him pretty hard. They're losing Mason, Jackson, and possibly Devonte Graham. They're only bringing in 1 guard as of now to replace them. Will be interesting. I think he'd be a good fit at X and would certainly offer a nice duo with JP.

There's no way he's transferring from Baylor to Kansas.

[Lloyd Braun]

Totally agree, Freeman took 113 last year for 38.9% and 131 the year before at 38.2%. Good sample size. I'm not arguing, just saying he's appears to be a good shooter and we can use some of that. I was shocked Malcolm was that high.

By comparison Myles took 168 in '15/16. Not arguing, just like the idea of another good shooter. (Especially with some experience!) If not him, maybe someone else?

For sure! You are very correct in that shooting is needed.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

There's no way he's transferring from Baylor to Kansas.

KU already has Cunniliffe coming in from ASU. That kid shot 40% from three as a one semester freshman.

[MADXSTER]

Q/grad transfer
Scruggs/same grad transfer/Harden
JP/Naji/Harden
Kaiser/Ridder/Ernst
Tyrique/Sean/Ernst

If anything, Q may play the 2 and Scruggs the 1. It's kinda crazy because Q, Scruggs, Naji could all play. Xavier could have 3 very good ballhandlers on the court at the same time.

[xufan02]

I really don't think Xavier kicks the tires on Freeman. His initial recruitment out of high school was a little tricky, and if it is the same way this time we should steer clear.

[MADXSTER]

Would love to see a scrimmage of the newbies verses the veterans.

Q
JP
Trevon
Gates
O'Mara/Tyrique

vs

Scruggs
Naji
Harden
Ridder
Ernst/Jones

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Would love to see a scrimmage of the newbies verses the veterans.

Q
JP
Trevon
Gates
O'Mara/Tyrique

vs

Scruggs
Naji
Harden
Ridder
Ernst/Jones

Look at that, if we get massively lucky and Tre stays that team has some fire power.

[Lloyd Braun]

Rob Edwards is a similar player up here at CSU... but he will likely sit out a year. He can light it up though...

[xu82]

Rob Edwards is a similar player up here at CSU... but he will likely sit out a year. He can light it up though...

I see you're in Cleveland, but it gave me a quick laugh. I watched the E8 game in Denver and the table next to us was full of people wearing CSU gear. The first words the one speaks to me are "how the F%$# did you guys lose to US?" I did not have a really great answer.

[XfansinKy]

Watched some videos this morning of Brady Ernst(before injury) and am surprised at how quick he could jump. One ball fake and he was dunking hard with both hands. It redirected me to Kentravious Jones and I'm also pretty surprised how good he finished with either hand. I found where he was averaging 20pts n 9reb before he transferred. Even though videos can be misleading, the frontcourt appears to be in good shape with 2 big back to the basket centers and 2 athletic power forwards. Of course Tyrique has next level strength and jumping ability for a true freshman/upcoming sophomore

[Ohionite_X]

I think Tyrique is going to make a huge jump next season. His in season improvement this past season was remarkable. His fouling rate dropped dramatically, his free throw shooting mechanics improved, he got into better scoring position, hell he even started the last 10-12 games when he barely saw action earlier in the season. Some of our recent great Xavier big men have had that jump between Junior and Senior year (Farr, Love) but I think Tyrique hits that next season.

I'm also excited to see some more of his thunderous blocks.

[birdman71]

Back when a player was only eligible for 3 years, freshman teams with guys like Oscar and Kareem regularly beat the varsity teams in scrimmages.

[birdman71]

I believe at end of next year, Brady Ernst will make us forget about slow Sean O'Mara.

Sean was in a groove but too lumbering and oafish.

Ernst is more limber and athletic. 3 years of him is great.

I know Scruggs will get all the hype but I believe Naji Marshall will be the shining frosh. He's long and lanky, athletic and a jumper (2nd best recruit)

Sean O'Mara works as hard as anybody on this team. He did an intense summer program to improve his play. He, or his family, paid a couple grand for it. He stepped up in the tournament and may have begun a ''Farresque'' improvement. We might not have made the Elite Eight without his play. It was good to see his confidence in wanting the ball at crunch time and making a good percentage of FTs under pressure. You do mention he ''was in a groove'',but emphasize ''slow'', ''lumbering'' and ''oafish''!
Trevon has made it clear that players read this stuff. Can't you as a ''fan'' [I assume] be a little more supportive and credit one of our guys for improvement, dedication and effort?

[XfansinKy]

Sean O'Mara works as hard as anybody on this team. He did an intense summer program to improve his play. He, or his family, paid a couple grand for it. He stepped up in the tournament and may have begun a ''Farresque'' improvement. We might not have made the Elite Eight without his play. It was good to see his confidence in wanting the ball at crunch time and making a good percentage of FTs under pressure. You do mention he ''was in a groove'',but emphasize ''slow'', ''lumbering'' and ''oafish''!
Trevon has made it clear that players read this stuff. Can't you as a ''fan'' [I assume] be a little more supportive and credit one of our guys for improvement, dedication and effort?

If O'Mara plays anything like he did in the NCAA tournament the post is in good shape.

[GoMuskies]

http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/news/college-basketball-top-25-rankings-2017-2018-kentucky-duke-arizona-kansas-north-carolina-recruiting/2cyez9sq8mei1u5gnhxmbgnfi

Let's keep it clean. http://www.xavierhoops.com/showthread.php?31970-Way-Too-Early-2017-18-Rankings

[bobbiemcgee]

https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2017/04/05/way-too-early-top-25-power-rankings#

[bobbiemcgee]

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/19047845/college-basketball-way-too-early-top-25-rankings-2017-18

[GIMMFD]

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/19047845/college-basketball-way-too-early-top-25-rankings-2017-18

16.... forget that, let's get our first ever #1 overall ranking and win the National Championship

[Olsingledigit]

You basing this off of a couple 5 minute JUCO highlight tapes? God help us. Ernst won't play that much next year.

The switch came on for O'Mara down the stretch, I really believe that. He was demanding the ball, yelling at the bench when it didn't come to him etc. I don't expect him to be a 15/8 guy or anything, but he will be really solid.
Re Ernst - based on what?

[MADXSTER]

There is usually a surprise player every year. Wonder who that might be this year.

[XMuskieFTW]

This gets me excited for November.

https://twitter.com/XavierMBB/status/900814953841647616

[xu82]

This gets me excited for November.

https://twitter.com/XavierMBB/status/900814953841647616

His play down the stretch had me excited already. THAT is amazing. Think of all the great athletes who came before him. I wonder who's record he broke.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Sumner probably.

[GoMuskies]

I wonder who's record he broke.

Jumping off two feet? Sato, I assume.

[whopper]

his dunk against arizona was such a surprise (off macura feed) it was almost like he did not realize he could dunk and just kept going. It may have been his only dunk of the year. Maybe this vertical jump is a natural realization on his part that he is a very good athlete. Hard to believe a DivI starter may need to realize it but he played controlled and un athletic all ear.

[MauriceX]

his dunk against arizona was such a surprise (off macura feed) it was almost like he did not realize he could dunk and just kept going. It may have been his only dunk of the year. Maybe this vertical jump is a natural realization on his part that he is a very good athlete. Hard to believe a DivI starter may need to realize it but he played controlled and un athletic all ear.

Pretty sure he has known he could dunk for a while. He was part of the dunk contest at Musketeer Madness and had a nasty dunk (link (https://twitter.com/musketeerreport/status/789971038364766208?lang=en)). He also had a nice dunk against Northern Iowa in Orlando. (link (http://www.espn.com/videohub/video/clip?id=18100042&categoryid=0))

[WCWIII]

That dunk in Orlando was really special. I think Tyrique had one too in that game but not as good as Q's. Then, I forget what game ... Cintas I think ... where he happened to miss one, but it was still a power move. Season soon.

[UCGRAD4X]

That dunk in Orlando was really special. I think Tyrique had one too in that game but not as good as Q's. Then, I forget what game ... Cintas I think ... where he happened to miss one, but it was still a power move. Season soon.

Who was the player, I think he might have been from Purcell, who it was said could pick a quarter off the top of the backboard.

I assume it was a running jump but I wonder what his standing vertical was.

Also - how did the coin get there in the first place? Makes one wonder about the veracity of the whole thing.

[Muskie]

Who was the player, I think he might have been from Purcell, who it was said could pick a quarter off the top of the backboard.

I assume it was a running jump but I wonder what his standing vertical was.

Also - how did the coin get there in the first place? Makes one wonder about the veracity of the whole thing.

Keith Jackson?

[kyxu]

his dunk against arizona was such a surprise (off macura feed) it was almost like he did not realize he could dunk and just kept going. It may have been his only dunk of the year. Maybe this vertical jump is a natural realization on his part that he is a very good athlete. Hard to believe a DivI starter may need to realize it but he played controlled and un athletic all ear.

I'll always remember that one, put us up by a point (before Arizona went on another run to extend their lead). He went up and just kept rising, even double-pumped in the air and threw it down with ease. He can get up.

And don't forget he and JP's alley-oop show against DePaul in the Big East Tournament this year. Everyone, Quentin included, knows he can dunk. His athleticism is one of the main reasons Mack wanted to go after him in HS.

[AviatorX]

I probably defended Q to a fault on here last season, but I could not be more excited for the rest of his career. Love his game and potential.

[ArizonaXUGrad]

Didn't he drop like 60 in a HS all star game, yes it was an all star game but if you drop 60 anywhere you can play.

[JTG]

Keith Jackson?

Keith Jackson.......Whoa Nellie !!!!!
Older guys will get the reference.

[GoMuskies]

Keith only retired a few years ago, right? I'm just trying not to be categorized as an "older guy" because I get the reference!

[X-band '01]

If you've posted since the beginning of XavierHoops (or Musketeer Madness, for that matter), you are an older guy.

[XUFan09]

I knew Keith Jackson best from him being a starter in NCAA 2004. I tended to dominate as a pre-injury Brandon Cole in that game lol.

[Masterofreality]

If you've posted since the beginning of XavierHoops (or Musketeer Madness, for that matter), you are an older guy.

What if we've posted since the "Xavier Roundtable"? Eeeeek!

[GoMuskies]

What if we've posted since the "Xavier Roundtable"? Eeeeek!

In that group. Oh, fuck!

[X-band '01]

What if we've posted since the "Xavier Roundtable"? Eeeeek!

InsideTheWeb or AOL?

[X-ceptional]

Trevon selected as pre-season second team AA by NBC Sports. Jalen Brunson and Angel Delgado also selected to second team.

2017-2018 NBC Sports College Basketball Preseason All-American Teams (http://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2017/09/26/2017-2018-nbc-sports-college-basketball-preseason-all-american-teams/)

[smileyy]

Sounds about right to me. IDK about the other 2 but I'd take Trevon over all but a handful of the rest of the NCAA.

[joe titan]

Sounds about right to me. IDK about the other 2 but I'd take Trevon over all but a handful of the rest of the NCAA.

Any preseason list of top 10 NCAA players which omits Delgado is highly suspect; but I cannot see Jalen Brunson in same status. Brunson is very fine player for 'Nova but not quite 2nd team AA.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Any preseason list of top 10 NCAA players which omits Delgado is highly suspect; but I cannot see Jalen Brunson in same status. Brunson is very fine player for 'Nova but not quite 2nd team AA.

Jalen Brunson is going to have a huge year I think. He got to the rim at will last year. Great finisher too.

[joe titan]

Jalen Brunson is going to have a huge year I think. He got to the rim at will last year. Great finisher too.

Mostly b/c Hart & Jenkins were standing on the wings; I know he is very good but AA. Some would say he might not start at KY.

[D-West & PO-Z]

Mostly b/c Hart & Jenkins were standing on the wings; I know he is very good but AA. Some would say he might not start at KY.

I wouldnt be surprised if he was the one picked for preseason BE POY.

It will obviously be one of Tre, Brunson, and Delgado, but I think Brunson has as good a chance to be picked as the other 2.

[X-ceptional]

It's October... getting closer...


Xavier Basketball‏
@XavierMBB
Oct 1 (https://twitter.com/XavierMBB/status/914630867863171077)

.@CoachChrisMack calls the team together for the first official practice tonight @CintasCenter. #LetsGoX
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLFru5RXkAEo0XW.jpg:large

[X-ceptional]

Also, looks like JPMFMMFM put in some work this offseason.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DK_WLalWsAE3UdY.jpg:large

[paulxu]

There's the blue team, the white team, and apparently JPM in a yellow shirt.

[Emp]

Also, looks like JPMFMMFM put in some work this offseason.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DK_WLalWsAE3UdY.jpg:large

Holy weight room!

[American X]

Also, looks like JPMFMMFM put in some work this offseason.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DK_WLalWsAE3UdY.jpg:large

This how I feel on the inside.

[bobbiemcgee]

This how I feel on the inside.

You may need an X-lax, X.

[bobbiemcgee]

Myles Fox Morrissey looking pretty ripped. Little over 4 weeks.

[MFM]

Also, looks like JPMFMMFM put in some work this offseason.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DK_WLalWsAE3UdY.jpg:large

Whoa! That dude's arm looks like my penis.

[deepX]

That crooked! you may want to see a doctor about that.

[GIMMFD]

That crooked! you may want to see a doctor about that.

Yeah I agree, that's definitely not anything I've seen in our anatomy text books.

[MFM]

I should have been clear. I didn't mean the elbow - I just meant the thick veiny throbbing part of his upper arm. Reminds me a lot of my penis. I am considering starting a new Separated at Birth thread to show you bros.

[GoMuskies]

Well, as many of you I'm sure know, it IS Cocktober. So I guess this makes sense.

[xu82]

I should have been clear. I didn't mean the elbow - I just meant the thick veiny throbbing part of his upper arm. Reminds me a lot of my penis. I am considering starting a new Separated at Birth thread to show you bros.

On my phone it's only like a half of an inch. Are you seeking sympathy?

[GIMMFD]

I should have been clear. I didn't mean the elbow - I just meant the thick veiny throbbing part of his upper arm. Reminds me a lot of my penis. I am considering starting a new Separated at Birth thread to show you bros.

You should get that checked out if it lasts longer than 4 hours, or possibly get your cavernous nerves/sinuses checked out

[paulxu]

Well, as many of you I'm sure know, it IS Cocktober. So I guess this makes sense.

That's for Gamecocks, not....

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1136/1572/products/MD_s-caro_clemson_sign3d.jpg?v=1497889578

[GIMMFD]

I mean paul, if your Cocks have a good showing on Saturday, they might be the reason Butch Jones is fired. So I guess, Go Cocks!

[bobbiemcgee]

http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2017-10-01/college-basketball-what-last-years-sweet-16-brings-back

[Boro Muskie]

http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2017-10-01/college-basketball-what-last-years-sweet-16-brings-back

That is shall we say encouraging!

[UCGRAD4X]

http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2017-10-01/college-basketball-what-last-years-sweet-16-brings-back

Xavier second in every category gets one brief mention in the 3-point category (which would have been better had Stainbrook not made that one 3-pointer):whack:


Not surprising to see Kentucky last or second last in every category. Kind of exemplifies the difference in philosophy and approach of each program, of which I am thankful.

[bobbiemcgee]

https://fansided.com/2017/10/12/college-basketball-preview-xavier-musketeers/

Can we play like March all year?

[GIMMFD]

Xavier second in every category gets one brief mention in the 3-point category (which would have been better had Stainbrook not made that one 3-pointer):whack:


Not surprising to see Kentucky last or second last in every category. Kind of exemplifies the difference in philosophy and approach of each program, of which I am thankful.

Not to mention add this loaded class we have, and we have a really good outlook for the season. Sure the Freshmen will have some growing pains, but if they can develop towards the end like Q did, we might be in for a special March. Also, this is a promising tweet as well:

https://twitter.com/EvanDaniels/status/918846412749791234

[sirthought]

https://fansided.com/2017/10/12/college-basketball-preview-xavier-musketeers/

Can we play like March all year?

Thanks for posting this. Really interesting analysis. It's fairly predictable that our strength in Bluiett gets stronger if we shore up scoring from others and interior defense. But still, I like how they laid out the improvement in March. Teachable moments!

I didn't think interior defense was bad last season, but it could always be better. Defending the three seems to frequently be an issue for Xavier teams. I also didn't realize that Goodin was playing as poorly as this made it sound. Clearly, he has room to grow and I'm confident he'll manage the offense better this year.

[bobbiemcgee]

and Top frosh:
https://scout.com/college/basketball/recruiting/Article/Top-Five-Big-East-Basketball-Impact-Freshmen-Predictions-by-Scou-108776126

[D-West & PO-Z]

Any preseason list of top 10 NCAA players which omits Delgado is highly suspect; but I cannot see Jalen Brunson in same status. Brunson is very fine player for 'Nova but not quite 2nd team AA.


Mostly b/c Hart & Jenkins were standing on the wings; I know he is very good but AA. Some would say he might not start at KY.

These did not age well! Sorry I had to! I was reading Jay Bilas stating he was is pick for POY and I remembered someone being kind of down on Brunson and came back to look at the thread.

I thought Brunson would have a really good year, did not think he would be POY but he is trending towards that now.

[SemajParlor]

This team is starting to feel capable of something that rhymes with Lionel More.

[GIMMFD]

This team is starting to feel capable of something that rhymes with Lionel More.

Hahah if you said this a couple weeks ago you would have been crucified. It's still a long way until March, let's just keep improving, gel, and peak in March. I'd love to see Mack get a Final 4 in a record-setting year, WHY NOT SET TWO?